How can people believe modern fashion wasn't created by white and Asian people? Or is it just a coincidence that the fashion capitals of the world are in Paris, Tokyo, and New York. Is everyone in this thread >>10394739 just delusional or am I missing something?

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Anonymous Fri Sep 18 19:31:37 2015 No.10395709 [Reply] [Original]

How can people believe modern fashion wasn't created by white and Asian people? Or is it just a coincidence that the fashion capitals of the world are in Paris, Tokyo, and New York.

Is everyone in this thread >>10394739 just delusional or am I missing something?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 18 20:50:56 2015 No.10395931 >>10395709 shit cumskin logic once again created by =/= for

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 18 20:54:50 2015 No.10395938 >>10395709 tbh (to be honest) i think you're right, fam.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 11:27:33 2015 No.10397608 >>10395931 Primarily created by an for

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 11:32:33 2015 No.10397617 >>10395709 They are Paris, Milan/london, new york in that order. Everything else is prety much lower tier. but yeah you are right.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 11:36:26 2015 No.10397630 >>10397617 your mother is a low tier son of a bitch, what about that

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 11:38:32 2015 No.10397639 Paris and New York are like 50% black and Tokyo has more black people than the rest of Asia combined.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 11:42:33 2015 No.10397651 >>10397639 You can keep telling yourself that, but it wouldn't make you less of an stupid fuck. Really, the first point is false, and the second one is incredibly obvious. Where else in Asia would a black guy decide to live? Motherfucking Myanmar?

Anonymous Sat Sep 19 11:44:44 2015 No.10397661

Europe and Asia didn't get ass fucked by colonialism in a way that still has bearing on their reality to this day. So yeah, it's pretty easy to be the harbingers of fashion when all your competition are countries that are decades behind your own in terms of their social and technological climate.

But whatever, we white people are super smart and cool and better than everyone, I know the drill.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 11:47:39 2015 No.10397671 >>10397661 Africa was a shit hole before colonialism :)

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 11:50:47 2015 No.10397681 File: 66 KB, 480x349, GUNS-GERMS-STEEL1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10397671

>>	Chuck !w1Bug5WJHk Sat Sep 19 11:52:13 2015 No.10397684 >>10395931 When did I say for? All I said was created by. Anyone can wear what they want but whites lead modern fashion whether your sjw mind can handle it or not.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 11:52:47 2015 No.10397687 File: 175 KB, 964x635, france summed up.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10395709 >Paris >white

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 11:54:03 2015 No.10397690 >>10397617 lots of designers on Paris Week are asians hell, lots of asians attend PFW, see those videos from mangenotantoine channel in youtube and you'll see lots of asians in there

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 11:56:17 2015 No.10397697 >>10395709 You do realize New York is mostly minorities and that New York style streetwear was inspired by the poor/middle class hispanic, black and mixed race people in and surrounding the city, right?

Chuck !w1Bug5WJHk Sat Sep 19 11:57:34 2015 No.10397701

>>10397639
Is you really think Paris is 50% black than you are really delusional.

>New York is 50% black
Hmmm

>Tokyo has more black people than the rest of Asia
That means fuck all its still a very small minority

Anyway name some great designers that are black or Mexican.
Do you own any of their clothing?
No?
I thought so

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 12:00:06 2015 No.10397715 File: 223 KB, 1000x666, new-york-1970-vietnam-war-camilo-jose-vergara-10.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10397697 picture very related, from 1970.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 12:02:31 2015 No.10397723 >>10397701 What is hyperbole? Anyways the point is those cities are culturally diverse which creates a unique style. You don't see homogeneous places like Utah or North Korea doing anything for fashion.

Anonymous Sat Sep 19 12:02:35 2015 No.10397724

>>10397701
You do realize marketing something and creating something are very different things don't you?

Most designers base their clothing on shit that already existed in a much more raw form ahead of time.

look at
>>10397715
and tell me this guy isn't dressed how most of the fags on this board aspire to dress.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 12:07:03 2015 No.10397740 File: 105 KB, 980x689, large_Perry_Kretz_4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10397715

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 12:07:19 2015 No.10397742 >>10397681 top fucking kek

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 12:09:05 2015 No.10397749 File: 179 KB, 1320x886, img034-3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10397740

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Chuck !w1Bug5WJHk Sat Sep 19 12:14:34 2015 No.10397762
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>>10397723
>Anyways the point is those cities are culturally diverse which creates a unique style. You don't see homogeneous places doing anything for fashion.
Wrong again, keep trying though

>>10397724
You misunderstand me. If a Mexican rocks Rick Owens than good for him. If a nigger rocks Jan Jan Van Essche than that's great too. If some Aussie abo is in the street wearing Ann D, there is nothing wrong either.

But all the top fashion houses are lead by White or Asian people.

I'll repeat is again.
Modeern fashion is for anyone
BUT
That same fashion is lead by white or Asians.
This point is indisputable and was the entire topic of the thread.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 12:15:39 2015 No.10397765 File: 233 KB, 1000x1277, gilles-elie-cohen-del-vikings-photography-paris-876-1423588411.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10397760

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 12:16:26 2015 No.10397767 >>10397715 >>10397740 >>10397749 >>10397760 This just proves how great white deisgners are. Even minorities love it

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 12:17:13 2015 No.10397769 >>10395931 heh you call us cumskins but cum brings life shitskins look like shit and shit is waste

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 12:18:09 2015 No.10397771 >>10397769 top kek

Anonymous Sat Sep 19 12:19:28 2015 No.10397775

>>10397762
I understand what you're saying, that white people run fashion today.

OP said "how can people believe modern fashion wasn't created by white or asian people."

My point is that modern newyork style streetwear is almost entirely based on what minorities in NYC wore in the 1970's-1980's.

White people marketed a style that black and hispanic people are responsible for.

White people aren't 'responsible' for creating modern fashion. They're responsible for selling it. At least as far as NY is concerned.

Anonymous Sat Sep 19 12:19:58 2015 No.10397777

>>10397769
They won't get it, minorities are riding the wave of confidence ever since sjw became the norm. They are so delusional they will even make claims that modern fashion wasn't made by white people. If they are proven wrong they will shift to the topic to WELL LOOK AT THESE BLACK PEOPLE WEARING WHITE FASUION!!

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 12:20:53 2015 No.10397778 /pol/ pls go

Chuck !w1Bug5WJHk Sat Sep 19 12:24:02 2015 No.10397781

>>10397775
Ok that makes more sense
>My point is that modern newyork style streetwear is almost entirely based on what minorities in NYC wore in the 1970's-1980's

Could you name some American designers that copy the NY streetstyle and specific pieces? Because I'm from Paris and I've never seen that sort of influence on top designers and I fucking love fashion.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 12:24:17 2015 No.10397782 >>10397715 >ooga booga wearing white mans hat, white mans polo, white mans jacket, white mans trousers, white mans sneakers >claims this is what inspired white people to wear these clothes LOL

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 12:26:28 2015 No.10397785 File: 14 KB, 300x300, hurr-durr.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10397782 Fashion isn't individual pieces, it's the look you create by combining them. fucking retard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 12:26:53 2015 No.10397786 >>10397778 >whites steal black music >Ugh white people >Black people steal white fashion >no problem there, if you disagree you are \pol\ How about you argue with logic instead of dismissing everyone as a racist?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 12:30:38 2015 No.10397796 >>10397785 >ooga booga invented modern fashion by looking through a white mans dumpster and wearing the first full outfit he could find LOL, were really getting into the black revisionist history here!

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 12:30:55 2015 No.10397797 File: 928 KB, 1280x853, of-tr-12.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10397781 while i personally am not a fan of the style, odd future is a good example of NY streetwear.

Anonymous Sat Sep 19 12:32:48 2015 No.10397802

>>10397796
First of all, you don't even know the brands of the clothing the guy in the picture is wearing, so how are you so sure they're 'white' brands, aside from the converse?

Second of all, we're talking about style, not individual brands.

Seriously how can you be this stupid? Please stop for your own sake i don't want you to hurt yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 12:33:48 2015 No.10397804 >>10397797 >name an good American designer that copies 80s NY style >names a rap group that only teenagers are into How did you expect anyone to take you seriously?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 12:34:02 2015 No.10397807 >>10397797 odd future is LA-core through and through

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 12:35:12 2015 No.10397810 >>10397804 I don't care if you take me seriously or not. I grew up in NY and still live here today, i know the history of fashion in regards to this city.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 12:37:26 2015 No.10397814 >>10397807 Odd future is collectively from NY. Everyone who skates in and around the city has dressed like that since around 2002.

Anonymous Sat Sep 19 12:37:29 2015 No.10397815

>>10397802
>how are you so sure they're 'white' brands, aside from the converse?

because its the year 1970, niggers only got hood rich enough to design clothes for themselves in the late 90s

>Second of all, we're talking about style, not individual brands.

what style? looks like a nigger rooted through a dumpster, anyone can wear a coat with pants and sneakers

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 12:37:49 2015 No.10397818 >>10397786 >whites steal >blacks steal Different circumstances, sorry try again.

Anonymous Sat Sep 19 12:38:07 2015 No.10397819

>>10397802
>so how are you so sure they're 'white' brands, aside from the converse?
Because 80s America was racist and had no Black designers

>second of all were talking about style, not individual brands
No only you are. This is what your doing

>If they are proven wrong they will shift to abother topic WELL LOOK AT THESE BLACK PEOPLE WEARING WHITE FASUION!!

>>10397797
Lol

>>	Chuck !w1Bug5WJHk Sat Sep 19 12:39:09 2015 No.10397821 >>10397797 Are you kidding me? Odd future?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 12:39:21 2015 No.10397824 >>10397818 >whites stealing from blacks what would they even steal? mud huts and jungle rags? niggers dont have anything worth taking that a white man didnt give to him in the first place

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 12:40:14 2015 No.10397827 >>10397824 lmao k fam tbh

Anonymous Sat Sep 19 12:43:43 2015 No.10397843

>>10397824
>jazz
>hip hop
>swwaaaaaggg ;^)
If you don't live under a rock you would see these sorts of posts everyday on Twitter and Instagram

Essentially white people are dirt. They steal from black culture and when blacks do the opposite you can't do shit because you will be called a racist

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 12:50:20 2015 No.10397867 >>10397639 >Paris and New York are like 50% black and Tokyo has more black people than the rest of Asia combined. Cant be serious...

Anonymous Sat Sep 19 12:53:14 2015 No.10397874

>>10397843
>They steal from black culture

is rape, bike theft and AIDS a culture now?

jazz and hip hop are both shit and couldnt have been made without white mans insturments and technology, youd still be in the jungle chanting to the rain god like the savages you are

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 12:53:43 2015 No.10397877 >>10397681 >babby's first foray into anthropology That series is complete bullshit

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 12:55:21 2015 No.10397885 >>10397797 kek

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 12:57:27 2015 No.10397891 >>10395709 White people just steal their shit from minorities. It's like pop music

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 12:58:34 2015 No.10397895 >>10397874 And you'd still be dancing naked around Stonehenge without influence from Arabs, Egyptians, and Greeks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 12:59:38 2015 No.10397898 >>10397895 Greeks were white back then

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 13:03:41 2015 No.10397913 >>10397898 No they weren't The point is whites created modern civilization. WHITE NORTHERN EUROPEANS, whether you like it or not this is true. fashion is also mainly lead by WHITE NORTHERN EUROPEANS Niggers dont make clothes that anyone wants to wear

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 13:04:57 2015 No.10397915 >>10397874 greeks and romans were white and egyptians and arabs never made it past spain and italy whites rule the world nigger

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 13:05:55 2015 No.10397924 >>10397913 Yes they were

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 13:05:57 2015 No.10397925 >>10397915 >>10397895

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 13:07:33 2015 No.10397934 File: 99 KB, 760x1048, tomas-berdych-102.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10395709 >white people smh someone needs to stop them

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 13:15:10 2015 No.10397953 >>10397913 Black people who can jump high make millions off of white people who want overpriced shoes with their name on it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 13:18:57 2015 No.10397968 >>10397953 To be fair they live in a country which is 77% white so if no white people bought there shoes then they'd make severely less money 77% of nba is black though so lol

Chuck !w1Bug5WJHk Sat Sep 19 13:23:34 2015 No.10397980

>>10397953
>Black people who can jump high make millions off of white people
>Who runs the companies that market athletes?
>Who owns the athletic teams?
The wages for athletes is so minuscule compared to how much the owner makes. I'm surprised you don't know this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 13:37:52 2015 No.10398027 >>10395709 >that the fashion capitals of the world are in Paris, Tokyo, and New York. The capitals are Paris, Milan, London, New York/Tokyo.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 13:40:10 2015 No.10398038 >>10397818 We dont steal. All we took from you are natural resources that you allowed us to take for a 10% cut of all the shit we manage to mine. Its not our fault that africans are shit at making deals.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 13:44:06 2015 No.10398048 So many niggers on /fa/ yuck

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 14:02:33 2015 No.10398114 >>10397980 >Who runs the companies that market athletes? >Who owns the athletic teams? Not your dusty ass.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 14:08:28 2015 No.10398139 >>10397953 >nike uses jungle nigger to sell shoes to other jungle nigger >gives him 5% cut >he blows it all in 2 years and goes bankrupt fucking niggers lmao

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 14:12:39 2015 No.10398156 can't wait until shitskins get uppity from not being minorities anymore, marginalize white people, and modern society collapses on itself tbh

Anonymous Sat Sep 19 14:18:52 2015 No.10398180
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>>10398156
>can't wait until shitskins get uppity from not being minorities anymore, marginalize white people, and modern society collapses on itself tbh
they will end up getting their asses handed to them and I can't wait :^)

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 14:25:54 2015 No.10398203 >white people

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 14:26:09 2015 No.10398206 White people always wanna copy black people and then claim they created it. They've always done this shit. Remember who taught you fucking European cave people how to bathe.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 14:38:16 2015 No.10398271 >>10397617 I feel there is more fashion in Tokyo, than New York tbh Iv been to both, fashion is literally everywhere you go in Tokyo. Where New York it seemed like it was condensed in certain areas.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 14:48:21 2015 No.10398314 Take this race baiting cancer back to /pol/

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 14:51:09 2015 No.10398321 >>10398314 >shitskins mad because they don't control everything Can we have one thing? Please?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 14:54:01 2015 No.10398332 >>10398321 >call out thread for being off topic and cancerous >hurr durr fooking shitskins >>>/pol/

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 14:56:06 2015 No.10398340 >>10398332 Read the thread you dipshit, it's all explained eloquently so your dumbass can understand Who the fuck argues with hurr-durr anyway are you 14?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 14:58:41 2015 No.10398351 >>10398340 I don't have to read shit faggot, all race related threads outside of /pol/ are cancerous shit, go fuck yourself shrimp dick.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 15:18:08 2015 No.10398417 >>10398351 stay ignorant If you cant even read 20 posts than maybe 4chan isnt 4 u bby

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 15:21:15 2015 No.10398433 >>10398351 All the thread states is that all important, modern fashion designers are all white That's it.

Anonymous Sat Sep 19 15:25:04 2015 No.10398445

>>10398417
>stay ignorant

I'm sure there's only one person between us that's ignorant of the posting rules for /fa/. Fucking /pol/. Absolute dogshit posters. Every fucking board. Claim some race is ruining their communities then they ruin all the communities online that they take up residence in. Hypocrite fucks.

Saged and reported.

Anonymous Sat Sep 19 15:25:19 2015 No.10398446

The modern world is too vast to assume that each and every race hasn't had an impact on it. Just because white people like to reward each other on doing shit that anyone could do, doesn't mean that other races of people from other walks of life haven't had a part int he creation of such material. This is an honest thought

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 15:27:52 2015 No.10398455 >>10398433 OP said modern fashion as a whole, designers are just one part of fashion.

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Anonymous Sat Sep 19 15:30:35 2015 No.10398465

>>10398445
I'm not from /pol/
All I said was that Whites are the leading fashion house.
Am I wrong here?
>Claim some race is ruining their communities
I never did this. But good job buddy, keep making up statements

>>10398446
>Just because white people like to reward each other
Hmm just like any other race?
>on doing shit that anyone could do
Are you joking?

And no shit retard of course all races had an influence. But who had the most?
Well every important designer is white or asian so I'll let you do the reasoning form now on.

Anonymous Sat Sep 19 15:31:52 2015 No.10398470

>>10398446
I made the same point yesterday.

The way commodity production is organized now, there's plainly no such thing as racialized clothing, speaking in terms of whether or not an object can be subject to its creator in such a way that it leaves behind others that were implicated in the making of it.

Anonymous Sat Sep 19 15:34:01 2015 No.10398480

>>10398465
I was speaking to /pol/ more generally, not you specifically

And you're insanely stupid if you can't see how that's chum for those among /fa/ who are /pol/-minded. Know your fucking context. There are probably some places where a discussion like this would be acceptable, but it's not 4chan.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 15:42:11 2015 No.10398505 >>10398465 >who had the most idk let me get out my spreadsheet and tally up something as subjective as fashion influence. Who invented fashion? Probably not even a homo sapiens.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 15:49:35 2015 No.10398535 >>10397639 Gonna have to bait a lot harder than that faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 21:13:50 2015 No.10399788 >>10395709 some dumb fuck said all asian fashion is a derivative of european fashion you ugly cumskins think only whites have a place in fashion

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 21:14:52 2015 No.10399791 >>10399788 just let the thread die pleeeease

SomeLazyPerson !!hOT8SlNds65 Sat Sep 19 21:21:55 2015 No.10399811

>>10395709
>talking about fashion as something you can invent and condense into a term
>not knowing fashion is a global social construct that has been around since civiilization started, if not after
it smells like american logic bullshit to me

fuck nyfw, its moscow or spain fashion week tier

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 21:21:55 2015 No.10399812 >>10395709 I don't, whites and East Asians have lived in temperate climates forcing them to be more innovative when it comes to clothing just look at the national costumes for each countries A lot of our modern clothes still derives from them

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 21:24:18 2015 No.10399822 File: 105 KB, 1300x866, 2736807-Happy-Black-Man-Stock-Photo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10397843 >white people are dirt >tfw you notice this mindset is becoming so strong and mainstream in todays world/social media

Anonymous Sat Sep 19 21:25:16 2015 No.10399826

>>10399811
The most egregious error is trying to subtract entangled processes, labours, inorganics, geographies, etc. that go into making garments that require (for one examples, in the interest of relating it to the thread) all races, in favor of the very one-dimensional "name." As highschool as it is to say, that's some Society of the Spectacle-tier shit right there.

Saged and reported though, OP

SomeLazyPerson !!hOT8SlNds65 Sat Sep 19 21:25:23 2015 No.10399827

>>10397701
>Mexican
Queta Rojas RIP in peace

the thing is that there are shitload of designers around the world but no one gets the same attention as designers from big brands and legendary/old as Versace, Dior, Saint Laurent, Chanel or Armani

this thread is so full of bullshit it might be 80% bait 20% corn syrup

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 21:25:47 2015 No.10399828 >>10395931 Nice bait.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 21:25:49 2015 No.10399829 >>10398048 Nah, just tons of effeminate sissy cuckboi SJWs who wanna take the bbc. /fa/ is one of the most liberal multiculti boards, surpassed only by /co/mblr

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 21:28:42 2015 No.10399837 >>10397980 >>10397968 >>10398139 still doesn't change the fact that timothy and ryan want the sick new jordans and their mother rebecca will pay for them

Anonymous Sat Sep 19 21:31:52 2015 No.10399849

>>10395709

New York is buliding it self up to become a nigger ghetto trash capital of fashion. I see Paris slipping from time to time.

with all that public school, and yeeze bullshit and they think those things are cool and original smh tbh

what a fucking shame

stay classy new york

>>	SomeLazyPerson !!hOT8SlNds65 Sat Sep 19 21:37:08 2015 No.10399864 >>10399849 >with all that public school, and yeeze bullshit and they think those things are cool and original lol wtf? how can a gubernamental service be cool and original?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 22:19:33 2015 No.10399965 >>10399811 White designers lead fashion this is a fact

SomeLazyPerson !!hOT8SlNds65 Sat Sep 19 22:39:51 2015 No.10400023

>>10399965
well yeah, if you can call Yohji Yamamoto, Rei Kakubo and even Alexander Wang white then yeah

IMO it doesnt matter which raceis the designer, as long as his creations are ddeserving of so much attention is good enough, thats why being racist is themost stupid thing to do in this modern world

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 22:46:01 2015 No.10400038 >>10400023 Oops forgot about asians It is weird though how there are literally no popular black desginers. What do you think happened?

Anonymous Sat Sep 19 23:12:07 2015 No.10400093

>>10400038

The ones in Africa aren't going to design things white people would wear. The ones in America weren't really into fashion until like 10 years ago and even then it was guys like Andre 3000 and Pharrell who were kind of out there stylistically. I would think the growth of streetwear and more relatable style icons should give us more successful black designers in the near future.

SomeLazyPerson !!hOT8SlNds65 Sat Sep 19 23:17:23 2015 No.10400100

>>10400038
there isnt a popular designer by itsef, unleess they´re the owner and name of the brand (i.e. Christian Dior, Chanel, Yves Saint Laurent etc ...) so yeah, Raf wasnt famous iuntil he started his own brand

http://www.complex.com/style/2013/02/the-25-greatest-black-fashion-designers/joe-casely-hayford

there were black head designers for Oscar de la Renta and one for Balmain womens line, oh right, mst ppeople here dont even know about the legendary brand, whats the point of talking about proper fashion when the people here only knowmem designeers like Raf Owens and Hedi Lagerfeld

fucking /pol/ bringing their retardeness and shit derailing the whole board

Anonymous Sat Sep 19 23:30:59 2015 No.10400140

>>10400093
>The ones in America weren't really into fashion until like 10 years ago

While you may think this is true, if you know anyone from South Central (for example) during the 60/70/80's they'll tell you that one of the most important aspects of their daily lives was looking good/self-presentation. Always cleaning, pressing, detailing their threads after just hours of wear. They're "not into fashion" the same way a lot of people on /fa/ are "into fashion." Most of it was performative, but they had distinct styles, gestures, and ways of moving clothing that are highly specific to deep engagements with clothing and bodies. What you mean to say is that the camera only took to black people wearing "traditionally high fashion styles" about ten years ago with the wider acceptance of blackness in pop arenas.

Only gunna post in this shit thread this one time because it's actually related to fashion's historical record.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 19 23:42:51 2015 No.10400180 >>10397814 have you ever been to new york or la? i've never seen skateboarders in new york dress like odd future. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqLeWjdAn8A

Anonymous Sat Sep 19 23:59:13 2015 No.10400237

>>10397775
>streetwear is the only kind of modern fashion

>>10397701
hussien chayalan
joe & charlie casely hayford
oscar de la renta
olivier rousteing

all examples of non white non asian designers of some prestige

>>10399811
>implying global culture isn't overwhelmingly dominated by "white" culture
where else does "white privilege" come from :^)

>>10400023
>putting alexander wang next to rei kawukabo and yohji yamamoto

christ dude are you always this embarrassing

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 20 00:06:02 2015 No.10400257 I agree OP kill whitey btw

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 20 00:06:26 2015 No.10400260 >>10395931 >cumskin what an embarrassing excuse for an insult

SomeLazyPerson !!hOT8SlNds65 Sun Sep 20 00:44:58 2015 No.10400383

>>10400237
i was putting tthem in the same place because they´re asian (alexander wang i think is just an asian born in san fraancisco if i remember correctly) ofc AW is nt comparable to Yohji in any way except for the fact that both are asian

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 20 00:48:26 2015 No.10400389 >>10400260 I actually kinda like it tbh Although I'd prefer a world where shitskin didn't have to beg for its inverse fuck racism and hostility

Anonymous Sun Sep 20 02:11:58 2015 No.10400579

>>10395709
Tokyo is 98% Japanese
New York is only 33% white
Paris doesn't have racial statistics but it's probably somewhere between Amsterdam and Berlin in terms of diversity so maybe ~60% white
Fashion is multiethnic, but the only niggers wearing Rick Owens are rich ass people from NYC

>>	SomeLazyPerson !!hOT8SlNds65 Sun Sep 20 02:42:23 2015 No.10400637 >>10400579 >Tokyo is 98% Japanese i dont think that was necesary

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 20 02:50:16 2015 No.10400648 >>10397877 Can you suggest good anthropology books?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 20 02:54:36 2015 No.10400659 >>10400637 Idk

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 20 05:20:01 2015 No.10400903 >>10397681 i let single books tell me how to perceive large sections of human history

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 20 05:43:35 2015 No.10400933 >>10398271 i'm only talking in terms of fashion week importance and influence. tokyo fashion week is negligeable compared to new yorks'.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 20 05:45:18 2015 No.10400937 >>10400933 And fashion weeks on the whole are losing importance disproportionately to showroom productions and the like, no?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 20 05:52:30 2015 No.10400956 >>10400937 yes which is why i put Paris first.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 20 08:52:00 2015 No.10401415 >>10400579 >New York is only 33% white nice try

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