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/sprezzatura/ - Mediterranean and Menswear General - Fall is Here Edition Anonymous Mon Sep 28 09:29:08 2020 No.15601471 [Reply] [Original]

This thread is for the well dressed man and those seeking to improve their dress by exploring colors, patterns, textures and other styles while appearing more mature, elegant and refined.
>What is “sprezzatura”?
Required viewing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QG4lTMjWtY&feature=youtu.be
Required reading: https://parisiangentleman.co.uk/2017/02/24/how-obsession-with-sprezzatura-can-kill-the-sprezzatura/
>Do I have to be European to wear this style?
Absolutely not. Anyone can wear this as long as they are confident and don’t care what people think. You should be dressing for yourself, not for others. Is this style more common in Italy and other Mediterranean countries? Absolutely. But you could wear this wherever you are.
>How is this different than Trad/Ivy/Prep?
Whereas the /TIP/ threads favor classic styles and tailoring, wider fits and more drape, Mediterranean and modern menswear favors slimmer cuts, tailored closer to the body to accentuate and flatter your body. Slim fit is allowed and in many cases encouraged.
>Where should I start?
Start with sport coats and mix and match with trousers. Experiment with colors and patterns. Don’t be afraid of color. This isn’t business style, where bland conformity is the norm. We want to be colorful, and experiment with fabrics. Wear linen, wool, cotton, anything you want.
>Where can I find good inspo to draw from?
https://www.instagram.com/giorgiogiangiulio/
https://www.instagram.com/davidgandy_official/
https://www.instagram.com/carlos_domord/
https://www.instagram.com/parisian_gentleman/
https://www.instagram.com/fadiblanc59/
https://www.instagram.com/fabioattanasio/
https://www.instagram.com/justusf_hansen/
https://www.instagram.com/jcl.84/
https://www.instagram.com/franz_1955/
https://www.instagram.com/danilocarnevale/
https://www.instagram.com/thewomaninatie/
https://www.instagram.com/sonyaglyn/?hl=en

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Anonymous Mon Sep 28 09:31:48 2020 No.15601481
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Most sprezz that gets posted is summer fits. looking forward to seeing Autumn inspiration here. Probably a good deal of crossover with trad but still want to see some ideas for the cooler months.

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Anonymous Mon Sep 28 09:55:54 2020 No.15601540

How do you do this when you live among people who don't care about dressing well? Where jeans and t-shirts are the default?
I've slowly been replacing my old jeans with proper pants and t-shirts with buttons shirts but still I feel like I can't go much further without looking like a clown because no one I know seems to care about dressing well and will ask you if you are going to a wedding or funeral all the time.

Anonymous Mon Sep 28 10:03:15 2020 No.15601556

>>15601540
Confidence. A full 3-piece may be too much to wear for you day-to-day but it may not if you wear it well. A man assured of himself and comfortable in his clothes and skin doesn't have to worry about others judging him for 'dressing up'.
>will ask you if you are going to a wedding or funeral all the time
>Nah
That is all it takes. this will not work if you do not possess the above qualities. Also those questions are compliments whether they know it or not.
If you are just starting out of course a 3-piece will feel awkward. You already have buttoned shirts and trousers, now that you're used to them throw on a sport coat. Eventually you get used to that so add a pocket square or a tie, maybe a vest. Piece by piece you will grow comfortable and thereby confident in your clothes. To gain confidence try dressing up for events with no dress code whatsoever, such as grocery shopping or going to the bank or DMV.
That said there is a time and place for everything, for instance when invited to someone's house for a pool party don't show up in black tie.

>>	CecilDrakeInSeattle !effayRxItQ Mon Sep 28 10:07:40 2020 No.15601563 >>15601540 That's called a toxic environment. Others are holding you back and you're controlled by their rules. The more you start dressing that way though the less shocking it will be to them and will slowly become the norm.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 10:09:05 2020 No.15601566 >>15601556 >>15601540 TL;DR Pretend to know what the fuck you're doing, and people will assume you're a cool lad

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 10:11:19 2020 No.15601569 We're still hoping for the SA anon to recover.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 10:11:39 2020 No.15601571 >>15601556 >>15601563 So from what I understand it's best if I just take it easy, slow down a bit and just improve my wardrobe step-by-step without rushing. It makes sense.

CecilDrakeInSeattle !effayRxItQ Mon Sep 28 10:17:58 2020 No.15601583

>>15601571
Pants and a shirt and then later a blazer added isn't such a big deal, of course just turning up with a suit, waistcoat, overcoat etc. is.

I always ask myself if I had just landed in another city and didn't know anyone, would I feel so out of place dressing how I wanted then? Usually the answer is no. I mean it can take confidence to dress this way and when you slowly add pieces it builds that.

Also try and change your framing of things. Don't see being asked if you're going to a wedding as a bad thing but a positive thing like people acknowledging you are dressed good.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 10:51:40 2020 No.15601650 >>15601540 You can still wear leather shoes that aren't oxfords or derbies, and there are tons of jackets less formal than sports coats that are still more formal than a bomber jacket or something poofy

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 11:30:39 2020 No.15601734 File: 95 KB, 640x640, ichiryu thick brown three piece.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] From Japanese insta

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 11:44:34 2020 No.15601762 File: 71 KB, 640x640, dormeuil nacy jacket paisley tie ichiryu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 11:45:38 2020 No.15601765 File: 120 KB, 640x795, brown pattern contrast ichiryu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 11:48:53 2020 No.15601773 File: 44 KB, 640x486, s-l640.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is this a good cop? I feel like leather messenger bags are pretty /sprezz/

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 12:03:35 2020 No.15601794 >>15601773 Do you have another picture, possibly of the inside? I feel like I have this bag and it's shit quality.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 12:15:56 2020 No.15601822 File: 742 KB, 873x531, inside.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15601794 here ya go if it's shit, any recs on where to get a nicer one?

Anonymous Mon Sep 28 12:25:51 2020 No.15601830

>>15601556
This.
To be honest, most of the time people make fun of me they just say that I look like a millionaire or something in these lines, which is fine by me.
I know that streetwear fags won’t believe me, but I get considerably more compliments than snarky remarks dressing this style, and my wardrobe is still not as good as I would like, so there is that.

Anonymous Mon Sep 28 12:34:36 2020 No.15601844

>>15601822
Looks just like mine which is of horrible quality. Also, the leather still smells very much, even after two years. Also, it rubs off. Avoid.

Don‘t have any recommendations sadly. Don‘t buy an overpriced brand either (looking at Montblanc). I have yet to find a decent bag.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 12:44:22 2020 No.15601863 >>15601822 >>15601844 Actually, I once bought a cheapish wallet for 25 bucks from Leabags. Quality was excellent for the price. Maybe try that? I think they offer free returns.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 12:59:57 2020 No.15601902 >>15601734 >From Japanese insta which one

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 13:06:26 2020 No.15601919 Danjohn.com, are these suits decent for the price? Need one for internship but im broke. Any recommendations for suits in the same price range?

Anonymous Mon Sep 28 13:11:04 2020 No.15601932
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>>15601844
>>15601863
Good looking out, appreciate it. I've been looking for bags forever and I'm trying to be patient so I don't break the bank. I've been in and out of threads and all the ones I find are either fugly, get sold on ebay before I pick them up, or whatever.

I just want a nice bag that is more formal than a backpack, less formal than a briefcase, that isn't overpriced. This can't be that hard. Appreciate any advice you guys have

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 13:16:59 2020 No.15601947 >>15601902 ichiryu_fashion

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 13:20:41 2020 No.15601959 >somehow managed to sell a rather tatty, weirdly short sleeve length gloverall coat to someone in london for £20 >dude sent in an offer the exact same as my asking price some people defy understanding, but at least this adds to my thrift budget.

Anonymous Mon Sep 28 13:22:17 2020 No.15601964

>>15601919
It seems to be on par with Mango Man and the likes in terms of quality. Probably not wool, probably glued, probably slim and short-ish. The designs are mostly fine.
If you can try it on easily (in store would be best), maybe go for it. Only if you can‘t afford something better though. Suitsupply is not that much more expensive and the quality is very likely better. I must say the accessories and shirts seem fairly priced.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 15:58:36 2020 No.15602349 >>15601959 I've been dabbling with Poshmark recently and my higher quality items sit there for weeks while my shit taste old clothes sell quick

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 16:36:57 2020 No.15602455 >>15602349 poshmark?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 16:44:24 2020 No.15602481 >>15602455 Grailed for TIP/Sprez.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 17:44:19 2020 No.15602574 be straight with me sprez, can you pull of sweater vests outside of the office? i feel like full sleeve sweaters are kind of uncomfortable with a button up, theyre nice when its cold but i get the feeling id be quite fine with a v neck sleeveless.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 17:54:33 2020 No.15602600 >>15602481 ive no idea what that means >>15602349 googled this tho, besides the cancerous "sign up with your social media account" shit it looks alright. got anything good up for sale there?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 18:53:52 2020 No.15602688 If I take size 7 UK in Meermin's Rui boot last, should I take the same size in the Ron loafer last?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 19:12:57 2020 No.15602723 File: 627 KB, 1535x1292, 55056570-5285-40fd-84ed-76226d67a095-jpeg[1].947067_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15602688 Googled for a while and found this size chart.

Anonymous Mon Sep 28 19:14:49 2020 No.15602729

>>15601540
I just wore a shirt and a pullover today, with casual pants and chukka boots and got asked if I had a date.

When I told people I spent last Wednesday looking for a coat, people acted as if it was weird that I was trying to get the best quality item for my money. Basically you shouldn't give a shit and just do whatever you want. Bear in mind most people are wasting their money on bullshit like smoking, vidya etc., so buying nice clothes, which are comfortable, practical and brings you joy is, in my book at least, a lot more sensible.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 20:01:22 2020 No.15602812 >>15601481 >Probably a good deal of crossover with trad No

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 21:32:45 2020 No.15603020 >>15602812 Post autumn sprezz

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 00:34:34 2020 No.15603320 File: 198 KB, 640x800, brown pattern matching.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Tie knot a bit small but the pattern contrast is interesting

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CecilDrakeInSeattle !effayRxItQ Tue Sep 29 00:49:23 2020 No.15603349

>>15602574
>can you pull of sweater vests outside of the office?

If you have a jacket over it, then sure. If you mean a sweater vest over a button up shirt with no jacket? I'd have to say no. It's just too connected to a nerd look or old fashioned to ever be a kind of care free elegance. But under a jacket it can totally transform it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 00:50:42 2020 No.15603350 >>15603349 Why do you talk like such a faggot?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 00:51:16 2020 No.15603352 More like spazzatura

CecilDrakeInSeattle !effayRxItQ Tue Sep 29 00:53:42 2020 No.15603360

>>15603320
>>15603328
Don't get me wrong, I do like this look but these are very dressed up. The waistcoats need to go to make it less formal or if the waistcoat stays, the jackets need to change to something mainly in a singular color such as a blazer rather than a sports coat.

Autumn/Winter sprezz isn't so much a TIP look at that point, but a sprezz look in a darker color scheme and slightly heavier fabrics.

>>	CecilDrakeInSeattle !effayRxItQ Tue Sep 29 00:54:43 2020 No.15603362 >>15603350 Go back to TIP.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 01:10:25 2020 No.15603417 >>15603360 I have never seen you post a fit in any thread, only making faces at the camera shirtless. Post your best fit. Do not reply if you don't.

CecilDrakeInSeattle !effayRxItQ Tue Sep 29 01:32:08 2020 No.15603477

>>15603417
See, you are from TIP. These threads have always been nice but you can't take any constructive criticism. GO back. You're posting TIP like what happens in TIP threads. Really dressed up internet pictures taken from random sites and then bitter attacks. You're not welcome.

Anonymous Tue Sep 29 01:32:39 2020 No.15603479

>>15602600
Grailed and Poshmark are both online consignment apps. Grailed is mostly for street wear but you can find quality menswear as well. Poshmark is 95% women’s clothing.

I’m currently selling an Emporio Armani G Line suit and two new Hart Shaffer Marx wool coats.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 01:32:41 2020 No.15603480 >>15601481 It’s usually more layers in bolder colors, ie. not good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 01:42:26 2020 No.15603505 >>15603477 >no fit just as I thought Imagine spending so much free time as a 40 year old tripping on /fa/ and not even able to post a single fit

>>	CecilDrakeInSeattle !effayRxItQ Tue Sep 29 01:44:04 2020 No.15603506 >>15603505 >shits up tip threads >their threads die >repeats the process here Boring sad little individual.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 01:45:05 2020 No.15603507 >>15603320 >>15603328 these are not sprezz at all??? u look like some english country gent lol.

Anonymous Tue Sep 29 01:55:58 2020 No.15603524

>>15603506
I didn't even dismiss your 'criticism', merely said to post your own fit. After all the whole point of tripping is for attention and to have some sort of personality and record of your posts. What good is your advice if you aren't willing or able to show examples of yourself following it? Show us how sprezz is done. Let's see your take on it.
So far every pic ITT is mine art from one. I was and am interested in autumn sprezz. For a guy with such strong opinions you sure are hesitant to post pics and examples yourself.

CecilDrakeInSeattle !effayRxItQ Tue Sep 29 02:02:11 2020 No.15603527

>>15603524
You're clearly a TIP poster. "Autumn" sprezz implies some dress code so you can't even grasp the concept. We're always getting along fine itt.

I will not entertain your bait and trolling. IT's too low brow.

>hesitant to post pics and examples yourself.

I will when you post yours. You're a faceleess anon doing what you do in the TIP thread, just post internet photos. You probably don't even own a sports coat lol.

Boring.

>So far every pic ITT is mine

Yeah like this:

>>15601932

100% NOT sprezz. Read the sticky. Watch some Hugo. educate yourself. Learn.

>i'll post tip and call it "winter sprezzz"

LOL.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 02:07:13 2020 No.15603534 >>15603527 >posting photos on an imageboard >bad Show me what you envision when you think 'autumn' and sprezz I have posted plenty before and will tonight after work You have never and will never post a fit pic, only shirtless mugging for the camera.

CecilDrakeInSeattle !effayRxItQ Tue Sep 29 02:13:32 2020 No.15603538

>>15603534
You are posting random TIP images from across the globe. You are not posting anything of relevance. I didn't even mind and was nice but you're a whiny bitch so eat shit and die.

Sprezzatura is Sprezzatura, it does not transform to another style (TIP) in Winter ffs. All it would have is an addition such as an overcoat. And I mentioned darker colors and heavier fabrics but that's not set in stone because a lot of sprezz in cooler climates doesn't have the light fabrics "med look" even in Summer.

OK, I await your pics and timestmap. Until then I'm watching some porn.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 02:20:30 2020 No.15603551 >>15603538 Reminder that you are 40 years old, posting on /fa/, and proud of watching porn. You will never post a fit

>>	CecilDrakeInSeattle !effayRxItQ Tue Sep 29 02:23:35 2020 No.15603555 File: 466 KB, 826x470, suppppp.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15603551 lol being this gay for me... wew little buddy, I'm busy right now

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 04:05:07 2020 No.15603657 >>15603524 >>15603527 Isn't he the guy who calls out people to post a fit with a timestamp in the /tip thread when the /tip-rules guy starts ranting?

>>	CecilDrakeInSeattle !effayRxItQ Tue Sep 29 04:12:45 2020 No.15603670 >>15603657 No. I'm not. I don't post in tip. It's full of bitter teenagers. Now they're bored of their trolling in tip they are trying to come here. Not on my watch, son.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 04:23:17 2020 No.15603692 >>15603670 I meant the guy who implored you to post a fit

>>	CecilDrakeInSeattle !effayRxItQ Tue Sep 29 04:56:48 2020 No.15603756 >>15603692 Oh sorry, my bad. Yeah probably, all I did was say maybe lose the waistcoats on the pics and he went crazy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 05:22:18 2020 No.15603804 >>15603756 To be fair I quoted you both

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 05:44:43 2020 No.15603832 >>15603756 >he went crazy. >>15603417 How crazy of me. You will never post a fit

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 05:45:25 2020 No.15603834 >linen and cotton blazer arrives today >take it out of the packaging >its fucking 50/50 wool and poly >the pockets arent even fucking real pockets well this is going back

CecilDrakeInSeattle !effayRxItQ Tue Sep 29 05:51:04 2020 No.15603840

>>15603832
>still raging

That was your first message. You went on to be abusive and say how 40 year olds shouldn't even be here, even though if they're going to be on here, it's going to be in this thread.

Just take your drama to the TIP threads, it's not fair on the other posters here.

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Anonymous Tue Sep 29 06:36:36 2020 No.15603903

>>15603840
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> be me
> interested in learning about new male /fa/ styles
> find this thread
> at least 40% is two people bitching at each other while getting off on it, like watching two closeted homosexuals having sex while calling each other fags.
> close 4chan
> never come back
Victory!

>>	CecilDrakeInSeattle !effayRxItQ Tue Sep 29 06:59:29 2020 No.15603934 File: 623 KB, 1098x626, laughing at trolls.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15603891 MMmmmmmm >>15603903 You're here and posting. Take ur meds, lad.

Anonymous Tue Sep 29 08:09:26 2020 No.15604007

>>15603840
Nah, I'll keep posting and you'll keep seething. There's nothing you can do about it, except post a fit.
Until you do any 'advice' or 'criticism' is worthless and only comes from an attention seeking tripfag. A 40 year old tripfag who brags about watching porn.

Anonymous Tue Sep 29 08:20:52 2020 No.15604015
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just stop replying, we could do without the autism that killed /tip/

does anyone have any advice for copping linen stuff on ebay? all of it seems to be way pricier than stuff like wool or cotton. i just want a nice, brown linen suit that fits my rather narrow frame.

CecilDrakeInSeattle !effayRxItQ Tue Sep 29 08:58:56 2020 No.15604066

>>15604015
It's more rare to find than wool and cotton on ebay so supply and demand, I guess. And then only a few people go for linen items so are constantly looking for nice pieces to pop up.

Brown and creams are common colors though, so there is that. Sometimes have more luck in Winter too.

Anonymous Tue Sep 29 09:08:04 2020 No.15604073

>>15603527
Unnecessarily nasty post, man. I'm sorry if the image didn't meet your specific tripfag standards, but it was unrelated to the post and I didn't call it "winter sprezz"

In fact I was openly asking for advice. What are some properly /sprezz/ bags and bag styles?

If you're such a genius this should be a pretty easy question to answer

CecilDrakeInSeattle !effayRxItQ Tue Sep 29 09:14:32 2020 No.15604081

>>15604073
Because these threads have been great until TIP posters shit up their threads and then decide to come here and do the same.

I just thought you were the other poster, the troll who claimed to post all images. That's who the winter sprezz was aimed at. I apologize. A leather satchel is the line between backback and briefcase. A canvas one at a second choice.

Anonymous Tue Sep 29 09:37:05 2020 No.15604107
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>every pic ITT is mine art from one
Typo, was on phone but clearly it reads 'apart from one'. Every pic apart from that one and the bags was mine.
Reminder that the tripfag will never post a fit, which makes his 'advice' extremely suspect.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 09:39:51 2020 No.15604112 >>15604107 Oh fuck off. 99.9% of posters on this board don't post a confirmed fit. At least Cecil is real, and he's pretty based. Unlike you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 09:42:22 2020 No.15604115 File: 120 KB, 500x749, overcoat blaz.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15604112 Which makes their 'advice' suspect. Stay salty. maybe contribute inspo or a fit of your own? Why is a fashion imageboard so devoid of images?

Anonymous Tue Sep 29 09:46:25 2020 No.15604121

>>15604115
>thinking that is "nonchalance elegance"

Kek. You have zero idea about the concept of Sprezzatura. Please stop posting. This whole board is "suspect" to you because nobody will wag their tail when you tell them to. Please use a trip so I can add you to the ignore list.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 09:55:12 2020 No.15604138 File: 132 KB, 734x489, cordouroy and jacket.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15604121 Post nonchalance elegance then >Menswear General >We want to be colorful, and experiment with fabrics. Wear linen, wool, cotton, anything you want. oops

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 09:55:39 2020 No.15604140 I know the other guy is shitposting but I've never found ties to be carefree at all and actually rather uncomfortable

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 09:56:51 2020 No.15604143 >>15604066 guess its just a case of watch and pray for something good to show up in my budget then. i dont want to waste money on the high street tat thats easily available. any advice on full linen suits?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 09:57:47 2020 No.15604145 So if I get it right, Sprezzature is about being able to hide your autism?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 09:58:50 2020 No.15604147 File: 95 KB, 640x640, hugo and friends.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15604121 >thinking that is "nonchalance elegance" Is this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 10:09:38 2020 No.15604176 >>15604140 Meaning you don't wear them often, but that's just you personal preference then.

CecilDrakeInSeattle !effayRxItQ Tue Sep 29 10:12:56 2020 No.15604180

>>15604143
I think as long as the material is good it's going to be decent anyway and for a good price. High street ones tend to have a polyester lining which kinda defeats the whole light and breathable part. So I'd look for unlined and those without measurements will get looked over by some people so always just message the seller.

I have an interest in a navy one but that's a more rare color to find so again just a luck game. I can do some basic tailoring too which really expands options because a linen suit could just be too long in the legs but other than that perfect.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 10:13:59 2020 No.15604181 >>15604147 Yes. If you can't tell the difference then top kek.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 10:15:36 2020 No.15604185 >>15604180 theres a fair bit of navy linen available here, but most of its mixed and lined im sure the polyester lining could be gutted out of any decent jacket though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 10:19:00 2020 No.15604191 >>15604181 Ah, gotcha. Gatekeeping, condescension, snobbery, rules lawyering, not sprezzy enough for sprezz. That's what we need, to be more like /tip/.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 10:21:12 2020 No.15604194 >>15604115 >guy who poses for a photo, collar popped on purpose Vs. >>15604147 People walking down the street. They probably didn't do anything differently than on a normal day, except taking the photo

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 10:23:30 2020 No.15604200 >>15604194 Not to mention the forced watch on show. Even though they might seem similar, one is forced and the other is not and that's the difference.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 10:24:39 2020 No.15604202 >>15604194 The >>15604115 is not bad though, just different

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 10:26:33 2020 No.15604205 >>15604200 I don't know or care what kind of watch that is, so I did not pay attention to it. I can see how someone would want to show it off, though

Anonymous Tue Sep 29 10:27:53 2020 No.15604207

>>15604202
Apparently /sprezz/ is turning into Italian /tip/. Figured it would happen but didn't expect it to occur so quickly.
Note that everyone ignores the 'Menswear General' portion of the OP. Also the video entitled 'how obsession with sprezzatura can kill the sprezzatura'. A shame, because the concept had potential but was murdered in the cradle by autism.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 10:42:17 2020 No.15604225 >>15604207 Well, is it? The early threads were full of Mediterranean summer inspo, which mostly evolved into the menswear general and now we have this particular thread ignoring any of that and talking about rules

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 11:00:31 2020 No.15604257 File: 299 KB, 901x975, IMG_20200929_165521~2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How about some actual fits?

Anonymous Tue Sep 29 11:57:37 2020 No.15604320
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An early autumn office fit of mine. Not sure if I‘ll do gingham under a sports coat again.

>>15604257
Is that a suit jacket, a coat or something in between?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 11:59:52 2020 No.15604323 >>15604320 Something in between. It is designed as a 3 button sports coat/jacket, but from coat fabric. No buttons on the sleeves.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 12:03:30 2020 No.15604333 >>15604320 Nice. What material is the coat? How are you dressed compared to others in the office?

Anonymous Tue Sep 29 12:13:31 2020 No.15604350

>>15604323
Sounds very practical for autumn.

>>15604323
It‘s a 60/40 cotton/linen blend. Doesn‘t really wrinkle. Very content with it.
I‘m in corporate law. I‘d say it’s in the the middle ground on normal days and on the dressier side on a friday. Full suits are more rare now, as no clients come around due to the virus.

Anonymous Tue Sep 29 12:18:36 2020 No.15604360

>>15604333
Yours is good, too. In the office I usually wear shirt or a polo shirt and chinos, on the weekends I dress up more. Most of the guys wear jeans and graphic tees or sweaters or shirts, only the middle management and up dress in sport coats or actual suits.
The material here is a thick wool fabric.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 12:29:40 2020 No.15604378 what the fuck is going on ITT? 90% of the shit posted here is not sprezzatura

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 12:45:12 2020 No.15604409 >>15604378 Menswear general. Make your /tipatura then?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 13:08:11 2020 No.15604454 >>15604257 Is that a scarf or cardigan under the jacket? Looks good, just curious

Anonymous Tue Sep 29 13:16:03 2020 No.15604467
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to my immense surprise this actually wound up being more or less on the larger end of my size, so hopefully i have actually copped a nice linen piece for summer. assuming this doesnt turn out to be a fucking lie like the last jacket, what buttons should i replace the basic ones with?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 13:17:32 2020 No.15604470 >>15604378 a large influx of sprez friendly /tip/ refugees like myself. theres some common ground i think for a lot of us anyway in that were all looking to indulge in classic menswear, and that doesnt always mean a suit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 13:56:11 2020 No.15604565 Regarding the summer/autumn/winter sprezzatura topic... the latest GG video actually covers it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBPZKICPJEY

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 14:04:11 2020 No.15604578 >>15604467 you're saying summer? maybe a darker gunmetal metallic button?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 14:06:31 2020 No.15604582 >>15601481 >Mediterranean >Cold weather No. We go from 40 °C in the middle of summer to like -1 °C in the middle of winter. If someone is wearing layers, it means we're talking late autumn to early spring.

Anonymous Tue Sep 29 15:09:45 2020 No.15604709

Going to pick up some cheaper merino crew necks from uniqlo to layer with since Permanent Style said value was pretty good. Can anyone speak about the quality of lambswool or when I'd choose it over merino in fits?

Also what are Uniqlo fits like? I've never actually tried garments from there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 15:11:39 2020 No.15604716 >>15603834 Are you sure about the pockets? Check that the stitching isn't easily removable.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 15:16:23 2020 No.15604727 >>15604454 Thanks, it's a cardigan below, yes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 15:18:37 2020 No.15604731 >>15604378 >sprezzatura It's not even a real thing don't worry. This is just the new menswear general now that tip is dead.

Anonymous Tue Sep 29 15:26:51 2020 No.15604754
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Trying on some new shoes (excuse the wrinkled trousers, it was at the end of the day). I consider black loafers very tip (I'm a refugee) but I can't figure out when or with what I would wear them. They're Crockett and Jones btw.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 15:29:09 2020 No.15604762 File: 2.11 MB, 2592x1944, IMG_20200924_163655.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15604754 And the suit I wore the other day to work.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 15:31:58 2020 No.15604778 >>15604754 Looking good. The trousers could need a crease line, I think the cuffs go better with it. White socks are a matter of personal taste, too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 15:35:46 2020 No.15604793 >>15604754 If you can't figure out what to wear them with, then don't buy them? >>15604762 Looks really nice, maybe take brown loafers instead because the black ones look really similar to your oxfords

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 15:52:42 2020 No.15604829 >>15604793 >then don't buy them? But they look lovely.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 15:53:43 2020 No.15604835 File: 6 KB, 220x229, images.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15604829 I particularly like these JM Weston 180s. The price is crazy of course, especially when you consider the quality English shoes that cost much less.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 16:17:48 2020 No.15604883 >>15604716 theres no fabric there anon, theyre straight up fake.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 18:09:13 2020 No.15605080 >>15604578 how about antiqued silver?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 18:27:06 2020 No.15605100 >>15604762 I like those shoes. Do they have a vibram sole ?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 18:28:16 2020 No.15605102 >>15605100 Leather

Anonymous Tue Sep 29 22:42:01 2020 No.15605486

>>15604709
Uniqlo merino are very thin and flimsy, can not recommend. Not sure what a good brand is but definitely not them. Uniqlo is only good for simple basics - underwear, undershirts, maybe socks.
The fit is generally on the slimmer side of things.

Anonymous Tue Sep 29 23:01:19 2020 No.15605504
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Recs for flannel fabric? Fox Brothers is on a whole other level from everything else I've seen but their prices are as well.Would be nice to find something close in quality yet a little more reasonable in price.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 01:35:24 2020 No.15605697 File: 684 KB, 640x800, 120044311_758762744904732_1198713433566921952_n.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Posting an old-ish photo. can a pink stripe shirt work?

Anonymous Wed Sep 30 02:07:10 2020 No.15605760

>>15605697
I think so, it would go well with the blue trousers but clash with the hint of green in the jacket. Grey or blue jacket would work, red too.

Are you the South African guy? His photos are usually in front of a plain wall, so I am not sure. If not you look very similar at least.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 09:10:59 2020 No.15606167 >>15605760 i'm not south african

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 09:12:22 2020 No.15606170 >>15605697 is that a belt loop?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 09:19:09 2020 No.15606181 >>15606170 For the self-belt, yes

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 10:52:26 2020 No.15606343 >>15605486 Anywhere I can get some merino layers for like €60?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 10:56:33 2020 No.15606348 >>15606343 Maybe ebay. Merino is expensive. Cheap merino is low quality merino, most likely inferior wool. Merino has a very lax standard for products labeled as such so lots of things are sold as 'merino' but not the good sort.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 11:06:21 2020 No.15606362 >>15606343 >Anywhere I can get a yacht for ten quid?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 11:13:12 2020 No.15606373 >>15606362 Back to TIP.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 11:16:58 2020 No.15606381 >>15606343 stop being autistic since it makes next to no difference and you would be better off spending more on a different item other than knitwear https://www.permanentstyle.com/2020/02/best-value-product-uniqlo-or-what-you-get-for-your-money.html

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 11:19:25 2020 No.15606383 File: 61 KB, 600x800, BjiDiB7CUAAX6i4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15606373 sprezzers don't sail?

Anonymous Wed Sep 30 12:30:35 2020 No.15606489

>>15606343
Fast fashion like Uniqlo is the only one who can give you cheap shit labeled "merino". I'd rather just have regular wool from a place that specializes in it on sale like:
https://www.aransweatermarket.com/sale-him
Or
https://arancrafts.com/sale/

Don't worry, they're not itchy just because they don't have the word "merino" in them. They're nice and thick, too.

Anonymous Wed Sep 30 12:48:56 2020 No.15606518

I need to buy some new tshirts since I’m not always wearing shirts so asking about fit here.

For guys who lift, do you care about how t-shirts fit? I have a 43” chest measurement and a 31-32” waist which isn’t that big but it’s enough for even casual t-shirts to look like shit since I think you only want a couple inches of fabric either side of waist? I have seen some MTO shirt companies like Son of a Tailor so I’m not sure if I should try it or just keep trying slim t-shirts for 1/3 of the price?

I don’t want to look sexcore but I should be accentuating this V-Taper shouldn’t I?

Anonymous Wed Sep 30 14:50:18 2020 No.15606796

>>15606518
Lots of cheap casual T's (Hanes, Fruit of the Loom, etc.) flare out below the chest to accommodate fatties. Sounds like you have a pretty significant drop. You can find more fitted shirts if you look hard or spend more. I have found that loopwheeled shirts, though expensive, fit much better throughout the whole body. Try on some if you can.
Don't keep buying shirts you are not happy with or comfortable in.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 15:05:17 2020 No.15606836 >>15605504 VBC

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 15:21:27 2020 No.15606879 >>15601773 >>15601794 Any good alternative to this one then? Preferably in the range of 50-150 dollars/euros

Anonymous Wed Sep 30 15:31:26 2020 No.15606901

>>15606796
I am comfortable with regular casual t shirts without a drop, I just don’t know if I’m dressing wrong and should be finding tapered? Can’t really try them and send them back unfortunately. Even if it means a £30-35 MTO tshirt over a £10 UNIQLO/Hanes etc.

Does anyone actually care about the drop on a tshirt?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 15:34:56 2020 No.15606908 >>15606901 I wear Fruit of Loom right now in a Large and still have the issue of too much fabric at the waist, especially noticeable when I tuck but not sure if I’m just autistic about this.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 20:50:06 2020 No.15607622 >>15606901 I tuck all shirts, have similar proportions to you as well.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 21:12:43 2020 No.15607664 >>15607622 Have massive bunching at the waist when I do that though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 23:20:03 2020 No.15607959 >>15606879 leather is not cheap, you'll have to go used for those prices.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 23:21:26 2020 No.15607964 >>15606901 post a couple pics of you in a normal T. Front and side. Most likely it's just your mind messing with you.

Anonymous Thu Oct 1 08:02:24 2020 No.15608552

Anyone know where I can get a cheap overcoat in Europe that doesn't have that overly slim fit and square shoulders you see on every fast fashion wool coat nowadays? Unstructured I guess it's called (?)
By cheap I mean under 200 euros, I know it's not a lot but I don't really care if the fabric sucks

CecilDrakeInSeattle !effayRxItQ Thu Oct 1 08:08:03 2020 No.15608562

>>15608552
They would be unstructured yes, often no shoulder padding but that's rare anyway having square shoulders from padding. Are you in some Eastern Euro country and it's still 1987???

You want regular fit, not slim or even "tailored fit" and that's usually stated. Not really an area I look into much, overcoats. Of course, as always, there is always the thrift option.

Anonymous Thu Oct 1 08:09:34 2020 No.15608565

>>15608562
No I was just referring to shoulder padding, square was an exaggeration
>regular fit
>no shoulder padding
I'm having a really hard time finding something like that tbqh
I don't really have the time to go thrifting at the moment but if all else fails I'll do that

CecilDrakeInSeattle !effayRxItQ Thu Oct 1 08:18:40 2020 No.15608581

>>15608565
Regular fit should be easy to find, although a lot of companies do have more slim fit a lot of the time.

Shoulder padding is always very minimum today. You wouldn't even notice too much of a difference between the small amount and no amount.

All I know is that I see a lot of 100% wool overcoats on sites such as ebay for low prices. For the most part, they are not a common item for most men to wear today so they are not in demand used.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 08:23:24 2020 No.15608594 >>15608581 >100% wool overcoats on sites such as ebay for low prices Thanks I'll take a look

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 09:10:17 2020 No.15608655 https://www.arket.com/en_gbp/men/shoes/product.arket-and-morjas-penny-loafers-black.0906496001.html How do these differ to usual Morjas?

>>	Sieg !NP2jUmGKeo Thu Oct 1 09:30:27 2020 No.15608687 >>15608594 Keep in mind they're low prices for a reason

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 09:48:40 2020 No.15608717 File: 512 KB, 1949x2122, IMG_20201001_154319900.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Navy polo and light grey tropical wool trousers Sinple really

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 09:54:19 2020 No.15608732 File: 1.65 MB, 3120x3265, IMG_20201001_155142575.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15608717 Breaking in a pair of boots so they're nice and comfy come fall. The leg openings are not really wide enough for them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 09:55:37 2020 No.15608735 >>15604320 that's the most paper collar outfit. It screams of wagecuckery and has nothing to do with the op's picture >>15601471 this is the peak Whereas

Anonymous Thu Oct 1 10:00:52 2020 No.15608740

>>15608717
Cool, unusual trousers though, is the pic mirrored? Usually the fly cover would be on the left leg.
What rise does it have? My pants are coming along and I didn't want to make a slant pocket with a high rise because I thought it would be either a very long pocket opening or sit unusually high.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 10:08:21 2020 No.15608748 >>15608740 Yes, I'm using my phone's front facing camera which flips the pics around. The pants are the Brescia cut from Suitsupply and the waistband sits about a centimeter below my belly button, which I'd call mid-rise.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 10:11:58 2020 No.15608756 >>15608717 your body is so hot. i literally look at your fits for hours undressing you slowly in my mind. i think if you ever posted a shirtless pic i would explode!

Anonymous Thu Oct 1 10:56:59 2020 No.15608836

Thoughts on novelty ties? Not something really gaudy and in your face like a cartoon character. I have a silk navy blue tie and it has a strip of little white rabbits near the bottom. Maybe it's not that novelty but animals on a tie can be. I think it's only soi onions when it's like a super hero tie. So thoughts?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 15:55:10 2020 No.15609444 >>15608552 try looking for raglan overcoat, the have special shoulder

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 15:58:25 2020 No.15609454 Where to cop these clothes in EU for cheap Massimo Dutti?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 16:49:13 2020 No.15609569 Does SPREZZ loungewear or sleepwear exist??

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 17:58:43 2020 No.15609756 >>15608717 Good for spring/summer?

Anonymous Thu Oct 1 20:08:19 2020 No.15609983

Cheapest shoe or boot brands to consider? I am in EU. I’ve never paid much before since I’ve always lived in sneakers so I’m scared to spend a lot and find out that I hate them or the leather instantly scuffs but also I don’t want to get too autistic about the quality of something I won’t realise just yet.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 20:34:23 2020 No.15610015 File: 48 KB, 576x519, 1545829039847.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] friendly reminder that if you're not an elegant 50+ y/o italian this is either going to look like regular prep or larp

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 20:50:04 2020 No.15610032 >>15606518 breh u can just tuck your shirts anyway I like the normal champion tshirts after a few wash and dry cycles

>>	CecilDrakeInSeattle !effayRxItQ Thu Oct 1 20:51:53 2020 No.15610034 >>15610015 Friendly reminder sprezzatura does not equate to Italian dress.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 20:57:45 2020 No.15610042 >>15609983 Tallsem.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 20:59:39 2020 No.15610044 >>15609569 Yes. Bespoke dressing gowns in exquisite patterns over shirts with cropped wool trousers, knee socks and velvet slippers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 21:06:45 2020 No.15610053 Is there a list of sprezz outer layers that don't look like a suit/blazer/sports coat?

CecilDrakeInSeattle !effayRxItQ Thu Oct 1 21:20:09 2020 No.15610080
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>>15610053
I think you're missing the point like it has only permitted certain items as does with TIP.

But that doesn't mean cargo shorts and a t-shirt. It still must have an appearance of elegance and well dressed, just not forced or overly planned out. So outer layers will tend to fall within the pieces you listed. But the material of the pieces is how the difference can be made and different levels of formal to casual.

I'm going to assume you're looking for something on the more casual side. Something such as a suede bomebr jacket wouldn't be amiss.

Anonymous Thu Oct 1 21:25:30 2020 No.15610091

>>15610080
So you're saying that it would be easier to make a list of things that aren't sprezz? Ok, I'll try it and you can tell me what is actually still sprezz or what I've missed:
Rain jacket with hood, no collar
Nylon bomber jacket
Down jacket
"flowing" clothing like a noragi, cape, or poncho
Denim jacket
Camo pattern jackets

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 21:32:49 2020 No.15610104 >>15608732 What boots?

>>	CecilDrakeInSeattle !effayRxItQ Thu Oct 1 21:36:09 2020 No.15610110 >>15610091 There is no such thing as a list. I'm sure you're just trolling, or new and haven't even watched the OP links.

Anonymous Thu Oct 1 21:36:49 2020 No.15610111

>>15610091
Denim can be sprezz for sure, so can camo maybe if it’s safari jacket BDU core. I’m sure there are some fits where these actually work, I’m obviously just nitpicking because yes you won’t tend to see these but I’ve seen a lot of things on Instagram which actually surprised me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 21:44:37 2020 No.15610126 >>15610111 Can I see some denim jacket sprezz?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 02:29:19 2020 No.15610572 File: 357 KB, 960x1200, _DSC6441 (1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 08:53:46 2020 No.15610952 >>15609756 Definitely! The fabric code is 595.401/2 and it's woven by VBC.

Anonymous Fri Oct 2 09:00:29 2020 No.15610964
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>>15610053
I like wearing my Czechoslovak People's Army vz. 85 jacket with flannel trousers or jeans and an OCBD/denim shirt/long sleeve polo.
I highly recommend wearing boots in grain-patterned leather to keep it informal.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 09:14:56 2020 No.15610986 File: 317 KB, 831x577, ya07x9g7wsz11.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] wtc Joe's fit

Anonymous Fri Oct 2 09:36:15 2020 No.15611030
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I am begging someone to point me in the direction of a knockoff suede Valstar jacket like pic related, it looks perfect even down to the button, but I’m a poorfag. I have no idea where to look for suede or even good imitation suede if I have to.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 09:44:19 2020 No.15611044 >>15611030 >good imitation suede ultrasuede supersuede but nothing matches the qualities of lambskin

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 11:03:12 2020 No.15611198 File: 222 KB, 322x300, sad frog.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] my lovely dark brown linen jacket arrived today and its perfect, only it is way too long

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 11:04:21 2020 No.15611199 >>15611198 hem it, autist. you have the spatial skills and exterity required and the tools are within reach. do it!

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 11:08:39 2020 No.15611208 >>15611199 my dude its designed for someone nearly a half foot taller than me by the looks of it, shit goes down way past my ass and the neck line goes way too deep. the shoulders are also an inch larger than i would ideally like them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 11:16:21 2020 No.15611217 >>15611208 Share some pics of it?

Anonymous Fri Oct 2 11:16:50 2020 No.15611219
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If I am not yet in a position to comfortably afford the items I want but starting to like menswear/sprezz etc, is everything below the item all the same really and I should just buy the cheapest in the meantime while I continue to save and then upgrade? In this case a sweatshirt, but same applies to shirts and pants since I need a whole wardrobe and I don’t want to buy the best pieces just yet.

Example, this Merz sweatshirt looks and is great which I’d like but I need a grey sweatshirt in the meantime but for less so it’s likely going to be an ARKET, UNIQLO, Marks/Spencer item. These vary in price but at the end of the day they are all bad aren’t they? So I should buy the cheapest and be done with or would there be noticeable differences even at this low level?

https://www.arket.com/en_gbp/men/sweatshirts-hoodies/product.french-terry-sweatshirt-grey.0495533005.html

https://www.uniqlo.com/uk/en/product/men-sweatshirt-429159COL05SMA004000.html

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 11:20:16 2020 No.15611226 >>15611208 oh. then return it and get the small.

Anonymous Fri Oct 2 11:36:51 2020 No.15611253

>>15611219
Save your money for something good or get something good from the start. It might even be cheap, maybe one of those lower priced brands you mentioned is decent quality. The last thing you want is to waste money and time on what is essentially fast fashion.
For a little over double the price of the Arket one you can get a loopwheeled sweatshirt.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 11:38:33 2020 No.15611256 >>15611253 What are good brands for loopwheeled shirts? I know of some japanese brands, but that's it.

Anonymous Fri Oct 2 11:41:15 2020 No.15611260

>>15611256
Japanese brands are exactly what I had in mind. Warehouse, Buzz Rickson. Entry SG flies under the radar but their stuff is cheap, simple and great quality, it's where I get all my T's and henleys. Link is in moon, sorry about that but about $100 for a sweatshirt of excellent quality.
https://entrysgonlinestore.com/?mode=cate&cbid=2396456&csid=1

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 11:45:54 2020 No.15611266 >>15611260 You pay a hundred for entry SG? hahahha https://www.denimio.com/top/t-shirts.html?manufacturer=7142

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 11:49:41 2020 No.15611273 >>15611217 on me or of it? >>15611226 would but its ebay so im selling it on

Anonymous Fri Oct 2 11:52:55 2020 No.15611280

>>15611219
as someone whos very much in the process of building a proper wardrobe i suggest you get comfortable with the idea of thrifting things. this takes a lot more patience and is not without its issues, but if youre short on cash its the way to go. you can get some very nice things very cheap on ebay if youre looking for the right things at the right time.

Anonymous Fri Oct 2 11:53:19 2020 No.15611281

>>15611253
I’ll try to look and I like the V stitch at the front of some of these. I understand what you tell me but it’s very daunting since I need to buy a lot at once because I have nothing at all right now and also my measurements fluctuate a lot from lifting.

Anonymous Fri Oct 2 11:55:02 2020 No.15611284
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>>15611266
For sweatshirts dummy, pay attention.
I live in Tokyo and get mine direct from their website or at various stores. Denimio has a pretty good selection but their website is awful and they have fucked up my orders more than once.
Speaking of Japan, food for thought from Men's Ex, a men's fashion magazine.
The gist of the article is that when mixing and matching different patterns 1.5 is the baseline and most versatile combination. The counting method is essentially as follows:
>0 - no pattern, plain colors
>0.5 - patterned, same or highly similar colors
>1 - patterned, different colors
So a plain navy suit with a white shirt and a plain tie would total 0. Same suit and shirt with a regimental tie would total 1. Navy herringbone suit, white shirt and reg tie would total 1.5. Gun club check suit white shirt and ref tie would total 2. Interesting display of borderline autism but the article makes a decent case for it.
Note that it does not dismiss totals other than 1.5, just says that they serve their purpose on different occasions, i.e. 0 for a formal Japanese job interview, 3 for a playful out-on-the-town party vibe.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 11:56:41 2020 No.15611291 File: 344 KB, 1509x1037, 1.5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15611284 A look at the various combinations. None of them are explicitly frowned upon, each has a description of the 'atmosphere' it gives off and examples of proper occasions.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 12:02:11 2020 No.15611306 File: 230 KB, 780x1040, 1.5 2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15611291

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 12:20:07 2020 No.15611347 >>15611273 On you preferably, maybe you just think that it is too long

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 12:48:53 2020 No.15611406 File: 428 KB, 741x2337, 20201002_172913.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15611347 here you go 1/2

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 12:49:58 2020 No.15611408 File: 1.01 MB, 1508x2736, 20201002_172829.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15611347 >>15611406 2/2

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 13:34:50 2020 No.15611517 >>15611408 I see what you mean. Can you return it? The shoulders are the biggest problem, the bottom and sleeves could be altered, though.

Anonymous Fri Oct 2 13:56:03 2020 No.15611578

>>15611517
nah its an ebay auction and tbf its on me for not noticing it was a long jacket. the shoulders are only an inch off, but for me its all a question of proportions. i could have it altered but the garment would still be off due to the lapels and button placement.

Anonymous Fri Oct 2 14:22:18 2020 No.15611618

I’m going to post some links EU stores for items or inspiration that I’ve found either from Instagram or recommendations from Hugo/Permanent Style/Burzan etc since finding items at different price points was tough for me and maybe it helps any other newer anons.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 14:26:28 2020 No.15611624 File: 551 KB, 1944x1725, IMG_20201002_185542.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15611618 That would be great. Today's ensemble

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 14:28:00 2020 No.15611626 File: 409 KB, 1944x1528, IMG_20201002_192538.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15611624 With coat and funky scarf from accesorize.

Anonymous Fri Oct 2 14:28:24 2020 No.15611627

Is there any guide to overcoats/winter coats. Brands to buy, what kind of coat goes with what, etc...

Like can I wear a double-breasted coat over a single breasted blazer? Can I wear a tweed coat with a navy blazer and chinos? Can I wear a black coat with brown pants? That sort of shit.

Also, what are the best shoes for winter?

Anonymous Fri Oct 2 14:31:27 2020 No.15611631

>>15611624
>>15611626
Shave your fucking beard. I get that you are probably sensitive about your face or whatever, but just get over it. No one expects you to look like a male model. Beards must make you look like an insecure NPC following trends, and trying to take the easy road to reclaim some masculinity because your job just involves you sitting in front of a computer for 8hrs and then you go home and jack off to cuck porn and watch cartoons all weekend.

Anonymous Fri Oct 2 14:33:06 2020 No.15611634
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Progress on the next trousers, waistband is done. It is a week and one day since I started this one. Made an unfortunate mistake this time, pic very related. During fitting I thought the fabric was too lose, so I took it in by 5cm, (1cm on both sides in the darts, 3cm in the center seam). It was still a bit lose then, but I though that would do. Today I added the interlining and decided to reinforce it with this brown band, which is not elastic at all, which I thought would reduce wear on the self-belt. Anyway, now it is too tight, about 1cm on the outside and 2cm on the inside.
The pants are still wearable, but that is a bit disappointing, and I have to lose some weight now.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 14:35:34 2020 No.15611637 >>15611408 Its definitely too long. Ideally, your fingers should extending past the bottom of the jacket. Its probably best to resell it and buy one shorter than to try to salvage. Don't fret about it, it usually takes a few tries to nail your size.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 14:38:50 2020 No.15611640 >>15611637 aye, ive stuck it back up on ebay and im keeping an eye open for something similar in my size.

Anonymous Fri Oct 2 14:39:24 2020 No.15611644

>>15611219
Go as cheap you as humanely possible at first, and then save to get the good items. Don't fall into the trap of splitting the difference. Your first goal should be shittiest trad-fitting chinos and oxford shirts that Amazon has to offer, and a cheap matching belt/shoe combo.

Go to ebay, and thrift a blazer for no more than $50.

Then just sit back and save for several months for a higher quality belt and shoes. You probably want to spend at least $500 on the shoes + belt. Then repeat for shirts, then pants, and then a blazer. Take everything in $500-$1000 chunks that you save several months for.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 14:44:15 2020 No.15611650 >>15601471 I'd love it if someone made a pastebin of various brands to look for like /tip/ did

Anonymous Fri Oct 2 14:47:03 2020 No.15611653
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>>15611631
No I won't shave my beard because someone sperged out over it on an anonymous Vietnamese basket weaving forum. If anything, to do that would be more insecure than anything else.

I need to get my jacket sleeves lengthened.

Anonymous Fri Oct 2 14:55:07 2020 No.15611672

>>15611644
What do you mean splitting the difference? Going mid-way? I assumed basically it's either good items or shit items and going middle isn't worth it.

I could spend more now but the problem is since I have not bought clothes for the last 3-4 years, (23 now and I have lived in gym clothing whilst becoming /fit/ and I'm still getting broader, I have nothing at all). I do not know what a reasonable amount to spend is right now for a whole capsule like wardrobe not including a suit? £1000? £1500? Especially all at once. I have not dressed like this but I feel that it looks good and well put together and pretty comfortable.

It doesn't help that I'm finding a job right now after graduating but I had saved around 11k from the internship I did a year ago.
I am worried that by buying the cheapest, I will always talk myself out of buying nicer clothes since I don't really NEED them so I almost feel wrong for spending more on clothes than just the absolute minimum despite having no other outgoings except for food and rent when I move out. I need persuasion and a reasonable price range I should expect.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 15:00:34 2020 No.15611685 File: 261 KB, 936x1332, IMG_20201002_195210.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Blue blazer works better.

Anonymous Fri Oct 2 15:05:25 2020 No.15611694

>>15611672
>What do you mean splitting the difference? Going mid-way? I assumed basically it's either good items or shit items and going middle isn't worth it.

Yes. If there is a sweater that say, costs $300 you want, but is out of your $100 budget, don't buy a $100 sweater. Buy a $30 sweater off amazon to tide you over, while you save your way to $300.

Also, keep don't get dissuaded from the style because of the high entry costs. After you get your wardrobe down, its cheap as fuck to maintain. It looking "dated" is by design, so you don't have to chase new trends every year. The clothing itself lasts decades, and it being deliberately baggy means its insensitive to you gaining or losing weight.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 15:09:57 2020 No.15611699 >>15604257 Fits well for sure. I would maybe get some more colors going. Reds, browns, yellows, greens.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 15:13:10 2020 No.15611704 >>15604257 Needs a splash of color in there. Put on a tie, or swap the middle layer for a colored sweater.

Anonymous Fri Oct 2 15:16:03 2020 No.15611709

I use these mainly for inspiration or items from menswear recommendations I've seen everywhere. As someone towards the entry level, I like and have used some of these, and there are others which are much better but I just couldn't be bothered to list since it's out of my scope when I look for items, but there are definitely higher end stores than this.

https://therake.com/
https://www.fransboonestore.com/
https://www.trunkclothiers.com/
https://www.drakes.com/
https://www.shopuncommonman.com/
https://www.atemporubato.com/
https://www.johnstonsofelgin.com/retail/
https://baltzar.com/
https://timothyeverest.co.uk/
https://angloitalian.com/
https://bergbergstore.com/
https://natalino.co/
https://www.craftsmanclothing.com/
https://www.merzbschwanen.com/
https://www.sunspel.com/
https://dicks-edinburgh.co.uk/
https://clutch-cafe.com/
https://lucafaloni.com/
https://cavour.co/
https://www.anderson-sheppard.co.uk/
https://www.piniparma.com/
https://www.asket.com/
https://www.tmlewin.co.uk/
https://www.spierandmackay.com/
https://shirtonomy.se/
https://suitsupply.com/en-gb/home
https://www.morjas.com/shop/shoes/
https://meermin.com/
https://www.loake.com/
https://www.herringshoes.co.uk/
https://www.skolyx.se/en/
https://www.pantherella.com/

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 15:24:33 2020 No.15611729 >>15608836 As long as it is a quality tie and goes with the outfit and occasion, its fine. Animal print ties are fine with an informal outfit. Even super hero ties are fine if it fits the occasion, such as going to a super hero film in theaters.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 15:40:07 2020 No.15611759 File: 558 KB, 1853x1135, 740OXGFRT1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm aware that they aren't really the same thing, despite many similarities. Which one would you cop?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 15:50:09 2020 No.15611771 >>15611759 Right. Left looks low quality and trendy.

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>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 17:16:40 2020 No.15611950 >>15611694 Just realised a Carhartt sweater is £65, don't know why I get worried as soon as I see £100.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 19:26:54 2020 No.15612232 >>15611709 https://pastebin.com/FTin45E1

CecilDrakeInSeattle !effayRxItQ Fri Oct 2 20:16:21 2020 No.15612288

>>15611406
>>15611408
Lmao dude. This is the married dude, right? If you're getting stuff on ebay make sure you check the measurements or ask them. Everything here is too big by a large margin. You need to size down about 2 sizes. Always get the shoulder hem to cuff measurement. Too long arms on a jacket will fuck up even the most perfect body and shoulder fit on a jacket. You can't really even shorten a jacket by much either as it makes the pockets and the whole fit of the coat out of place.

>>15611631
the fuck...

>>15611759
Neither. The left looks like a high street fashion coat that regular guys wear with jeans and the right, being a double breasted with peaked lapels is harder to get a fit to balance it but having it in a single color can add to that but the prince of wales check makes it much harder.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 20:18:47 2020 No.15612292 >>15612288 yup, i fucked up on this and thought it was close enough. it clearly was not.

CecilDrakeInSeattle !effayRxItQ Fri Oct 2 20:25:09 2020 No.15612304

>>15612292
When you see really good movie fits etc. they have fitted everything exactly right. It's such a game changer. When you try on something and every part fits, it just makes such a huge difference hence the whole fit is king saying.

You'll save so much time on ebay if you get the measurements as near as possible to you. I have short arms and I only search for short on jackets. I've seen some great deals but the arms are long. Jacket length can range from 28 inches to around 33 inches in most cases and while they are supposed to cover your ass, being too long always makes them unbalanced badly to me, especially when you can just see your legs poking out, it makes them look really small.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 20:30:07 2020 No.15612310 Scrolling through instagram just now and it seems like half of sprezz or sartorial guys have knitwear from UNIQLO or Zara. What’s the deal? I’ve never seen good knitwear in my life but so many of these accounts don’t use “good” knitwear either.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 20:48:33 2020 No.15612331 >>15612288 Is high street fashion basically just mallcore but better? Is that a bad thing?

CecilDrakeInSeattle !effayRxItQ Fri Oct 2 21:31:54 2020 No.15612389

>>15612331
No lol it's pretty much mallcore. Even if it were some luxury high piece, there are many imitations in the mall and many regular guys wearing that type and I really couldn't think how to incorporate it into a sprezz fit.

I mean if you;re going to the store in jeans, a sweater and that jacket, there is nothing distasteful about it, but there is also certainly nothing that would scream elegance or this guy looks so well put together.

I know people think sprezz = med light color clothing which isn't true but lights are so much easier to work with.

The goose in crazy stupid love, his stand out piece is the green suit. His maroon suit also stands out. The "safe" sprezz colors imo are navy blues and light greys. Once you build on that, because confidence is going to be a part of this, soon, you'll be rocking the white double breasted suit jacket with ease.

CecilDrakeInSeattle !effayRxItQ Fri Oct 2 21:34:25 2020 No.15612394

>>15612310
Lol because you're being snobbish. if those brands have genuine 100% wool etc. then when added to a complete fit, I see no issue.

I mean we don't say avoid polyester because it's cheap, but because it falls unnaturally on the body and because it is uncomfortable and will make you sweat. Good materials are promoted because of their properties and not because they cost more.

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:59:34 2020 No.15612721

>>15606489
I got a sweater from aransweatermarket last year, it was chunky and smelled strongly of sheep which was nice but it was definitely itchy. This doesn't really matter because you should wear a collared shirt under a sweater but when i attempt to wear a long sleeve tee under it the itchiness is too much. The actual problem i have with the sweater is the waist hem is pretty long (it covers half my ass), while the sleeves are three inches too short. It also bunches up weird in the underarms.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 03:17:06 2020 No.15612893 >>15609983 Here are good resources for affordable shoes https://www.permanentstyle.com/2020/06/what-are-the-best-cheaper-shoe-brands.html https://shoegazing.com/2020/06/28/buyers-guide-low-priced-quality-shoes/

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 07:26:55 2020 No.15613127 >>15612394 That's what surprised me, I always got told that it was shit/pills easily etc etc but apparently that literally doesn't matter? It always sounded like the difference between a mall tier knit and a high end knit was gigantic.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 07:27:57 2020 No.15613128 >>15612893 Meermin, Morjas, Loake 1880

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 08:02:15 2020 No.15613156 What instagram accounts to follow?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 09:04:51 2020 No.15613210 >>15613156 thedonsclub burzanblog ethanmwong jkf_man handcutradio therake permanentstylelondon parisian_gentleman ralphlauren loropianaofficial sartorial_finn afterthesuit shopuncommon clutchcafelondon manolosweden lenn.castillo

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 09:05:48 2020 No.15613213 >>15612721 I went to look at mine and it happened to be 100% merino wool lmao They have a size guide, some of them are a bit longer in the sleeves than others. The arm bunching is because the sleeves point straight out instead of down.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 09:42:09 2020 No.15613244 It's funny, in a lot of circles schott is universally liked for their peacoats and leather jackets, but disliked only here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 13:06:24 2020 No.15613546 >>15613244 No one hating on it even knew it was a Schott, or probably even what Schott is

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 13:46:38 2020 No.15613639 >>15613244 The quality is decent, but come on. The design is some 2010 shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 17:45:04 2020 No.15614181 >>15613213 It's definitely not a bad sweater but there's enough little things wrong with it that it'll never be my go-to sweater

>>	CecilDrakeInSeattle !effayRxItQ Sat Oct 3 20:58:16 2020 No.15614533 >SA guy still not posting great PANIK!! If you're sick you might browse online still, did the old chink flu really fuck him up so badly he can't even post.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 22:50:06 2020 No.15614696 >>15611782 Both have oversized jackets

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 01:10:32 2020 No.15614962 >>15614533 Maybe he is in a hospital and does not post from his phone

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 01:13:12 2020 No.15614967 >>15614962 Maybe he has better things to do in life than post on 4chan

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 03:52:36 2020 No.15615193 >>15601540 >will ask you if you are going to a wedding or funeral all the time. That stops after a year or so when people have gotten used to you dressing well

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 05:27:10 2020 No.15615284 File: 98 KB, 640x799, linen summer fit 3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] adieu summer

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 05:33:12 2020 No.15615292 File: 100 KB, 280x772, 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Like my tie?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 08:06:52 2020 No.15615405 File: 371 KB, 572x818, 1561899036273.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15615292 Yes,

Anonymous Sun Oct 4 08:07:54 2020 No.15615407

>>15615405
>>15615292
My post disappeared:

Yes, but I think it's too much in this outfit. All three of your top pieces are very loud. Bright patterned tie, patterned jacket, bright coloured shirt. I think you should definitely try with a shirt in a less saturated colour and maybe an unpaterned or more subtly patterned jacket.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 08:21:48 2020 No.15615429 >>15615292 Honesty, you can’t pull this off. You look like some massive nerd in his father’s clothes instead of the “gentlemen” you think you are. Just wear shirts with dark wash jeans for god’s sake.

Anonymous Sun Oct 4 09:11:18 2020 No.15615496

>>15615292
that last anon may be a retard but he has a point. you are way, way overdoing it and need to tone down your fits. ties are not casual, the entire outfit is too loud, and it also feels unbalanced. the suede oxfords are nice in themselves but they just do not go with this.

Anonymous Sun Oct 4 09:43:18 2020 No.15615518

>>15615292
very unbalanced like the other said, thought this was TIP lol because most fits there are like this. In the nicest way possible, it's a really bad outfit.

I don't like the colour of the pants or shoes, I don't think a black belt looks right here. Either match the belt to shoes or to the pants/top.

The pants look too low on your waist, the shirt looks too big at the waist when it's tucked. The shirt sleeves look too long/jacket sleeves too short.

The tie doesn't work with this.

Anonymous Sun Oct 4 09:56:32 2020 No.15615539

>>15615292
>>15615496
the point that really needs making to you is that when it comes to menswear and especially sprezz, less is more. as you add pieces it becomes progressively harder and harder to make them all fit together in a coherent and complimentary fashion. that tie needs to go, but so does your belt, and either the jacket or the watch. its way too much and none of it fits. your oxfords need pants in a darker colour. your shirt needs something less soft looking than chinos. your tweed jacket needs something far warmer looking to balance it out on the lower half, it just doesnt look right and you should dress for your context.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 10:29:15 2020 No.15615559 Are we allowed to shill our for sale consignment items? I have some good items I’m willing to cut sprezzers a deal on

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 11:28:18 2020 No.15615635 >>15615559 dunno if mods allow it but ill take a look if you post it

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 11:40:28 2020 No.15615658 >>15615635 Search sprezz on Grailed. Look for the denim Suitsupply shirt

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 11:48:12 2020 No.15615664 File: 3.31 MB, 2821x3024, 1955A45F-24E2-4EC9-8D97-20AB7C5B6E17.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15615635 Or look for these

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 12:02:10 2020 No.15615681 >>15615658 nice stuff mate but not what im after. that sites also quite on the pricey side, does your stuff often go for a higher price vs ebay there?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 12:11:04 2020 No.15615700 >>15615496 I may be retarded, but at least I’m not dressing myself in incel teacher core.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 12:40:40 2020 No.15615752 >>15615700 Damn, I dress in teacher inc3l core...

Anonymous Sun Oct 4 13:28:36 2020 No.15615828

>>15615292
Since you focused on the tie and want it to matter I suggest getting a jacket with no pattern. Blue shirt should be turned into something closer to earth tones. Brown shoes = brown belt, not black. There are other color belts and shoes you can do, but this is the basics.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 20:37:19 2020 No.15616677 bump before 404

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 21:38:14 2020 No.15616769 >>15604754 nice

Anonymous Mon Oct 5 06:56:06 2020 No.15617572

>>15591941
Those are basically done now, but the rise was chosen was to high. I'll have to remove the waistband again, reduce the rise by 5cm and add a new waistband. Frustrating, but necessary. The waistband is the part that involves the most work, even though it is the simplest part.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 08:07:24 2020 No.15617634 >>15617572 any chance you could show us how theyre coming along?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 08:22:34 2020 No.15617642 >>15617634 What do you want to see exactly?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 08:35:55 2020 No.15617667 >>15617642 just how theyre coming along, its nice to see a project develop

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 08:51:15 2020 No.15617689 >>15617642 The waistband area and rise if possible. Curious about width of the band.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 09:07:19 2020 No.15617704 File: 1.81 MB, 1500x2000, hrpt3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15617689 >>15617667 The rise (difference between side length and inseam) is 36cm, they basically rise to my sternum, but the intended rise was up to my waist.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 09:08:26 2020 No.15617705 >>15617689 The waistband is 4cm wide

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 09:17:05 2020 No.15617717 >>15617704 That is a pretty big rise. What's the new measurement? Is 4cm a wide enough waistband for high rise trousers? Usually the ones I see tend to be thicker than that to compensate for the larger front block, not sure of the actual term.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 09:18:08 2020 No.15617720 >>15617704 Also what led to the mistake in rise length? Improper measuring or some particular detail of tailoring?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 09:56:51 2020 No.15617762 >>15602688 Normally you would go down a half-size for loaphs. I don't know anything about Meermin lasting in particular, though.

Anonymous Mon Oct 5 10:10:06 2020 No.15617775

>>15617720
I'd say both. The actual measuring seems correct. Another anon suggested to add 10cm to the rise on the previous project and it seemed a bit much, but when I measured it, that was about 1cm higher than my waist, so I thought it would be OK after all. The waistband is not included in the draft instructions, so I shortened it respectively.
Maybe I forgot about the shortening when I actually created the pattern... who knows.

Anonymous Mon Oct 5 10:13:15 2020 No.15617784

>>15601556
This anon is 100% correct. It feels a bit awkward at first but soon enough that will pass and you'll want to experiment more and more. Also, while you might get the odd question here and there, most of the time people will compliment you. Worked wonders in high school and university-- people take you seriously because you look like you take what you're doing seriously (as in you cared enough about your appearance to dress professionally and therefore must put the same amount of care into everything else in your life).

CecilDrakeInSeattle !effayRxItQ Mon Oct 5 10:23:45 2020 No.15617797

>>15617784
Somewhat related, for the people who know reviewbrah. Some think he's some autist who always dressed in suits but he actually felt super awkward in them at first. He wanted to wear them but was really anxious going out in them. Now look at the guy. He really turned it around.

Anonymous Mon Oct 5 12:18:27 2020 No.15618044

>>15617717
The new measurement would be 30cm rise then. The waistband looks totally normal, no need to make it wider, I think it is a matter of taste, because a wide waistband usually also requires some kind of ornamentation so that it does not look too "empty", such as side adjusters or a buckled belt as in ghurka pants.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 16:12:23 2020 No.15618556 File: 1.08 MB, 1920x800, saito.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any idea where I can look for a dress shirt with kimono style collar? (pic related)

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 6 01:19:24 2020 No.15619535 File: 299 KB, 1363x2048, tan jacket texture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

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>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 6 11:17:22 2020 No.15620490 Does anyone know whether Suitsupply jackets have any inlay to let out the back around lat muscles?

Anonymous Tue Oct 6 13:48:11 2020 No.15620888
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anon who keeps buying jackets that dont fit here, got my pants back from the tailors and did some thrifting today. pic related is the pants, along with a rather comfy looking Dunn & Co worsted wool jacket. what do you lot make of the jacket? its about a half inch off ideal shoulder positioning on either desu. pants also could be better, nowhere near enough fabric was taken out of the back of the thighs, and as such ive got a shitton of room in the lower thigh. the cuffs also dont look like theyve been stitched as they were ironed, the iron lines all over the place and it looks nowhere near as crisp as the cuff that came on it from brooks brothers.

i also grabbed a bunch of jackets ill be sticking up on ebay, including a partially unlined all linen navy blazer i fucking wish was in my size.

excuse the yellow, forgot to set my background colour to something else.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 6 14:42:04 2020 No.15620986 Can women dress sprezzatura? If not, what are some alternatives for women who want to dress this way?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 6 14:45:22 2020 No.15620997 >>15620986 No, woman cannot. Sprezzatura is inherently masculine.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 6 15:23:14 2020 No.15621080 >>15620888 Take a picture from further back please. From that, it looks like your jacket is comically long but it might be totally fine if only I didn't have to see your fit through the crazy distortion of your wide angle lens.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 6 15:41:02 2020 No.15621108 File: 417 KB, 600x1234, 20201006_181624_065-edit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15621080 ive got no fucking room whatsoever to work with here desu, but ive got this photo if it helps.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 6 16:44:57 2020 No.15621225 >>15621108 Looks better, especially at the shoulders. What is going on with the buttons though? That is a huge gap, and the quarters do indeed look too long

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 6 16:48:23 2020 No.15621230 >>15621225 its a 3 button with one missing which i intend to replace. reckon its worth getting shortened, or sell on?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 6 16:51:22 2020 No.15621232 >>15621230 Maybe have a tailor shorten it, yes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 6 16:53:32 2020 No.15621237 >>15621232 oof, i just looked up what it costs to have a jacket shortened and tbqh, im tempted to just sell this one on. its like im cursed to only like jackets im too short for.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 6 17:31:02 2020 No.15621304 >>15604115 cringe

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 6 17:32:45 2020 No.15621306 >>15614696 by our standards yah butt look at the shoulder fit, there's no comparison lol

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 7 00:02:22 2020 No.15622008 >>15621237 Don‘t have it shortened by more than an inch, should you decide to do it. Anything more really ruins the balance of a jacket. I‘ve tried this, trust me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 7 03:45:28 2020 No.15622267 >>15622008 thanks anon, will keep in mind.

Anonymous Wed Oct 7 09:43:09 2020 No.15622757
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I started treating ties as an alternative to scarves because they're several layers of cloth wrapped around the neck and draped over chest. One has to wear a jacket or knitwear at the very least to look complete and not like an office drone though.
t. office drone

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 7 13:50:53 2020 No.15623186 File: 296 KB, 1140x1564, IMG_20200930_191929~2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can grey and green work? I'm wearing green cords. Sorry for the bad photo.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 7 13:52:29 2020 No.15623190 >>15622757 Nice tie and knot. Wool?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 7 13:54:10 2020 No.15623196 >>15623186 Gray is a neutral, it goes with everything. Only suggestion would be a pocket square, maybe one with green or brown as a secondary color, to add some contrast to the top half.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 7 13:55:55 2020 No.15623200 File: 1.29 MB, 2592x1944, IMG_20200930_160701.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15623186

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 7 14:03:20 2020 No.15623219 >>15623200 More desaturated green would be good? I have a very similar jacket and it has a green band over the inner seams. Tried to take a photo, but the camera makes the green nearly gray, so I didn't bother uploading it. Still, not bad!

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 7 14:08:42 2020 No.15623234 File: 855 KB, 648x800, asdsadasd.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Are these markings a sign of low quality? I hate the way they look on an otherwise fine sport coat

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 7 14:09:57 2020 No.15623238 >>15620059 iron that shit

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 7 14:11:36 2020 No.15623240 >>15623200 nice pants, source?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 7 14:12:06 2020 No.15623242 >>15623234 To my understanding its a style choice but I'm right with you, they look like shit. as for spotting quality I always check the stitch per inch

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 7 14:14:05 2020 No.15623248 >>15623238 >t. only puts on clothes for pictures at home

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 7 14:14:41 2020 No.15623249 File: 74 KB, 1000x1000, cheaney.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any experience with high quality suede boots in rainy climate? I very like pic related, but living in a country where it's rainy half of the year, I'm hesitant.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 7 14:17:26 2020 No.15623254 >>15623249 British Columbian here, imho more effort than it's worth. If you are going to wear suede make sure you treat it with a water resistant spray or something

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 7 14:21:18 2020 No.15623262 >>15623242 hmm ok. I believed the stitches inherently were low quality

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 7 14:25:07 2020 No.15623275 >>15623262 yeah so did I, it's called Pick Stitching. I heard you can remove it but why bother putting it there in the first place. I blame the Italians

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 7 14:26:26 2020 No.15623282 New Thread: >>15623276 New Thread: >>15623276 New Thread: >>15623276

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 7 18:56:29 2020 No.15623862 >>15623196 I think a purple would work very nicely with the green.

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