/fa/ - Fashion

>>9976410
The computer you are typing on was also made by underpaid workers. Chances are, there's at least one Foxconn chip in what you're using, meaning there's demonstrable evidence of them killing themselves given working conditions. The same applies to clothing, technology, food, building supplies, etc.

It is very accurate to say, though, that most high-end designer stuff is made in factories like everything else. Potentially better management of quality and end result, of course, but it's not gonna be that different.

Before the shit-storm starts I think we should actually have a discussion about production marketing, a lot of designers have been doing shit like this:

On the label:
>"Made in Europe"
>When I look more into it: "Turkey" "Portugal" etc.
>All countries that border Africa/Asia and definitely have sweatshops/poor working conditions.

I mean, of course these shops are probably higher quality/less abusive than fast-fashion Asian sweatshops, but these high-end labels with expensive clothing shouldn't be pulling this shit.

Windsor Smith shoes store in my city

signage: Made IN Europe, over an italian flag, starting at 100AUD

Me: fk nigga that's a bargain,

italian goods are upwards of $400

everything else "made in Europe" looks shit, last season stuff, and it's made in turkey, romania etc.

not necessarily implying WS is a great brand but the marketing is sneaky as

theirs is a necessary sacrifice in order to complete my quest to impress anonymous strangers on the fashion board of a Javanese clay pottery enthusiast website

>>9976438
they're a necessary sacrifice in order to complete my quest to impress anonymous strangers on the fashion board of an illegal chine workers enthusiast website

>fa doesn't respond out of shame and pride in their meme shoes

>>9976418
Lel, some zara stuff and most of massimo dutti is made in portugal.

>>9976480
why would I feel shame?

they're getting a wage and i'm getting shoes

>>9976491
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702304231204576403680967866692

You realise all you're supporting is a brand name. A brand whose products are very easily replicated , probably by the same people who make this 'quality product' anyway
also,sweatshop wage and conditions are generally abysmal

it's pretty much inescapable at this point unless you exclusively buy hand-made clothes from an independent designer, which i imagine might be ridiculously expensive

the whole unfair labor thing has become so common and profitable that it would be detrimental to a company to switch to better working conditions for their employees

making your own stuff is an alternative, but i doubt many people have the time/money/dedication

>>9976499
so paying the same price for a product that is technically cheaper is fair?

or because everyone else is doing it it doesn't matter anwyay?

>>9976498
who cares? like I said, they get money to live off of and I get shoes

everyone's a winner

>>9976499

This isn't true though, there are labels making stuff in the U.S./Canada that are fairly affordable and do not use sweatshop labour or tricky marketing.

Of course the U.S. basically borders Mexico and may exploit labour to the south so I'm not sure who is doing what there, but I know there are projects with factories in N.Y./Maine at least.

Jumping in here. Recently bought a pair of Common Projects Mesh Track Runners. They arrived and slipped my foot in and got cut by an extra long staple that was sticking through the sole. Really disappointed that this seriously dangerous defect went through QA. Fortunately I was able to easily return them.

Pic related.

>>9976730
Haha holy fuck that's embarrassing.

>>9976730

Another pic, it's hard to see just how long this was. Long enough to poke through the insole but not easily seen. Tore my sock. Cut the bottom of foot.

Fucking CPs. This is my 4th pair I've owned. Don't think I will buy again however.

>>9976730
>>9976737
Don't buy Kent Wang rip-offs then pleb :^)

>>9976410
op plz dont shatter everyones illusons. these people like to think that when they see made in italy, its being made by some old italian man with an apron and spectacles, whos been a cobbler and making shoes for generations

>>9976742

Lol I don't think Kent Wang makes a track runner. These were clearly based off of NBs

damn this is embarrassing how can someone be so jealous and poor at the same time.

>>9976737

Have you raised any of these issues by contacting them or the vendor you purchased them from?

>>9977293

Like I said in the original post, yes I returned them. The site I bought them from was quick to respond and paid all return fees. i kinda wish I knew what the fate of them will be. Probably returned to the distributor or manufacturer? But from there it's probably a really simple fix to cut the staple but it kinda bums me out to see a defect like that come through. Turns me off, yknow?
Anyway, this was several weeks ago. Waited to post because I didn't want it to be seen as me trying to make a big deal out of it or anything.

>>9976410
as long as i like them and i look good in them, i don't care. it sounds very unethical but it's not like personally boycotting the products is gonna help their situation either. It's just terrible luck that they were born into third world countries and had a bad time.

i could never understand why there are people in /fa/ hate this shoe to the point that they had to make threads everyday just to guilt people who bought this shoe. $400 big deal. i could buy one each month. Some people spends their whole paycheck in gambling.Some people buy time share and spends $500 a year. I never see any reason why you feel bad paying a $400 shoe that is made from china. There are more worst way to spend your $400.

Just a heads up: personally, I'm not a fan, but people on this board like CPs
They're on sale through Haven right now
Cheers
http://shop.havenshop.ca/collections/sale-items/products/achilles-retro-low

>>9977628
I agree and only buy made in Europe. Let those fuckers starve.

>>9977628
sick stans

>>9977628
Shit that's actually a good price. Might Cop.

>>9977750
Oh just realised it's Canadian and costs fucking 80 dollars to ship to me. Forget it.

>>9976410
Ok

>>9976410
Does it make you mad that people casually spend 400 dollars on trainers?

>>9976737
>>9976730
Lol what the fuck? That shoe looks unfinished. In-Sole looks like plaster. The whole shoe looks like an un-finished house project. Fucking hell.

This is the shit you guys defend with such zeal?

>>9976737
Is it legit? I've never heard of any problems with CP. Can't wait to cop my first pair. LOL still can't find sizing. Literally every shop where I'm at is out of stock.

>>9977628
I wish they had my size

>>9977882
Try end clothing, theyre having a sale rn, but idk if its exlusive for previous customers or not. cps for 268 shipped

OP is mad jealous obviously, bitchin about CPs, not proposing anything instead and also introducing the low wage third world discussion, in a fashion board, forget him.

We obviously like the look of the CPs and I'm curious, what would all the CP haters buy instead of CPs if they wanted low profile minimalist white trainers ?

>>9977548
what else do you expect from butthurt poorfags?

they have to convince themselves somehow that settling for shitty alts is the right choice.

people pay thousands of dollars to look like villains

>>9976410
Do you really think somebody buys original CPs when there are replicas on Ali for $50?

>>9976418
Anyone who claims their clothes are made in 'Europe' is pretty obviously trying to hide something.

>>9977912
Adidas Rod Laver, what the design of CP Achilles Low are stolen from, were recently re-released in Europe.

http://www.titolo.ch/adidasrodlaver-p-11182.html

68 Eurobucks

>>9978035

>>9977865

That's without the insole inside you dingus. Pic related in the hole left in the insole

I went true to size. How fucked am I?

>>9978456
>swimming feet

>>9976410
As long as no white people were involved in the construction of my shoes I'm happy.

>>9976433
>tfw gf works at WS, get 50% off the Italian made stuff.

>>9976410
you sound really bitter

>>9978456
depends on how wide your feet are. You really should size one down since they're a bit narrow. I'm a size 8 and I wear a size 40
>mfw that boa constrictor fit when I first wore them

>>9977993
The replicas look like absolute garbage you cheap jew

>>9976498
>OP is about Common Memes
>posts an article about Prada

>>9979180
>size down
>on a narrow shoe
shut the fuck up. you people telling others to size down after you JUST admitted it was too tight are the reason people have bloody ass feet from wearing shoes for no reason. why would you size down... please explain this insolence.

>>9976410
What's with you retarded fucks complaint about labour workers? Who else is going to work in one of those factories? A rich, young patrician? A trust fund baby like you? Those are the laziest cunts for manual labour. Now go and fuck yourself you child.