/fa/ - Fashion

Because we really need another minimalist pair of white leather sneakers...

disgustin

>>9958943
>149$

>>9958939
Lol. Hope they fit TTS for you. Be a shame to wait all that time and then find out they run small with no way to do a return or exchange.

>>9958939

lmao looks cheap af

>>9958939
>has to do a memestarter to get memeshoes for 140 dinky dollars
>they look nothing like cp's
how's it being a plen?

>>9958939
These look nice, but at $250 you might as well go for some dark brown butteros - which have much nicer veg tanned leather that doesn't crease like cxl.

>>9958944
kek

Speaking of this type of shit, anyone have experience with arigato sneakers?

https://axelarigato.com/usd/low-sneaker-20045

>>9958995
No. But my life experience tells me that you should consider sterilization to remove yourself from the gene pool for even considering buying those.

>>9959007
You're probably right bro. I've been looking for a solid reason to do it.

>>9959007
they're nice though

>>9959026
Thanks, anon. I thought the same :)
I've been looking for the most accurate alt. to cp's because I really don't want to pay $350 for memes and then feel like shit whenever I wear them because I know I could've done better. I just want a nice, low-top black shoe ffs lol. I feel like these fit the bill

:^3

how mad r you

>mfw its the exact same leather and exact same manufacturer for 3x less
>mfw it's even cheaper than when cp started
>mfw all cp shills buttmad

>>9958989
it's horween cordovan m8 not cheap leather

>>9959112
This. I Know you can say this about alot of stuff, but CP is legitimately pure hype. Like I wouldn't even think they look that good in person. I've had people mistake my monowhite ox leather converses I had for them before as well. Not even fuckin trollin so hold your memes.

Anyways, prolly gonna cop these Arigato's now. Wish me luck lads

>>9959032
Have you checked the COS ones? They look pretty similar

>>9959137
Just checked. For shipping to US they have neither white nor black lows :(. They have some nice black chelseas but they're the exact same price as the arigato's ($225)

thanks anyway anon-moose

>>9959137
>>9959155
oh shit just noticed ur cumlord.

thx anyway based cumlord

>>9958967
good cop m8, slept on ssense sale

>>9959118
cxl is not shell cordovan. It also creases like crazy, which looks terrible on sneakers. Price point of the raw materials is irrelevant. For example, gold is an expensive metal, but it's a shitty choice for building a building a bike frame.

>not looking at that creasing of that leather
>people who haven't owned CP's talking about how much they know about CP's

Shoes aren't all about how they look in photos. /fa/ has become so diluted that all that gets discussed now is how something looks in its stock photo.

convince me I shouldn't

>>9959112
yet they still look like shit.

>that sleek silhouette

kek

disgustin

>>9959299
you shouldn't

>>9959299
Eh, i like them. Cop.

what's the verdict on Kent Wang? http://www.kentwang.com/shoes/sneaker-white.html

>>9959411
a guy in the shoe thread says they're bad quality

I'm just a pleb so idk

>>9959299
Look at the creasing/wrinkling on the toebox, keeping in mind that these are new.

>>9958939
>that fake stitching on the vulcanized sole

laughing hardly!

>>9959411
rest of his stuff is shite. reddit love him. dont buy

>>9959429
Fake stitching? How can you tell?

>>9959430
why not? i'm not defending these i just want to know what isn't good about them

>>9958939
wait honestly i like the business model of this website. i might just buy these becasue they look decent enough and sound like they'd be good quality.

or am i in denial?

>all these mad CP shills ITT

bought a pair of chinos and a black shirt for work

should i buy one of their tee packs?

>people acting like CPs are made of magical leather that doesn't wrinkle
You fuccbois are delusional.

>>9959435
He can't. Those look like the same morgram sole units that CP and Buttero use to me.

suede > leather

>>9958974
>looks nothing like cps
holy fuck youre autistic
>b-b-but the silhouette!!
point a difference out to me without using the term "silhouette"

>>9958989
whats the sizing on butteros? are they wide?

>>9959481
the problem I have with almost all of their products, is that because of how their business model is set up, theyre constantly coming up with new products, new fabrics, new ideas. which is nice in way, but the major downside is that its not really tested, or refined. they think "hey this fabric looks cool, let try it" then they fund it, a bunch of ppl order it, and then they make it. but you have no idea how its going to age, how it will wash up, what the quality will be like. im hesistant to endorse these because, these guys know nothing about the shoe game. theyre just throwing out some basic sneaker designs hoping ppl wil buy them. at least cp's have years in the shoe business making shoes and desginging footwear and have honed their craft.

>not shipping for fucking months
Nope

>>9959775
Buttero run way big. Go one full size down from your normal size. They're wider than CPs.

>>9959762
Suede is leather, dingus.

gustin more like disshitisdisgustinaf

>>9959783
There's also the fact that all of their products are crowd-funded and take months to ship out. That's why I haven't bought anything from them.

http://us6.campaign-archive1.com/?u=97fd75512229222572d636330&id=1b1a68db8e

>>9959299
metal eyelets are ugly

>tfw you go to make a thread but your outrage is late

>own CPs and Stan Smiths
>get way more compliments on the stans

Top lel

I'd be an angry CP shill too if had to save up for months just to get them

>>9959926
Cxl has name recognition, and is in higher demand than whatever generic calf leather they use for the other sneakers. Not rocket science.

>>9959771
>silhouette
they're the same colour so silhouette is all you have to compare.

if you cant see the difference between these cheap shit shoes and cps you shouldnt even consider yourself fashionable

>>9960186
Man you sound like a prick haha.

>>9959783
yeah this makes a lot of sense. like you can hardly get even a testimonial on what it will be like so it's a little risky. i'll think about it, thanks for the insight.

but then also what's wrong with other CP knock off brands like kent wang, if they have been doing it for some time as well

>>9959118
yes, it is cheap leather
there's cordovan color and there's shell cordovan
this is color cordo cxl, and the cheapest cut of the stuff too

lowest tier level of horween's bog standard workboot leather on a sneaker last?
shit's gonna look like shit in short order

all that creasing, leading to cracks
all that loose grain creasing, weakened leather parts, leading to cracks
all those veins that they didn't cut around because they want to skimp on ordering more leather, leading to cracks

cracks kill the shoe

don't buy cheap cxl cuts
don't buy costlier shoes with cheap level cxl (alden et. al.)
buy the thicker shit, or choose another leather

don't buy this sneaker unless you want something that will look horrid in no time, and then die sooner than such a sneaker should.

>>9959926
I don't understand why they are so much more. Clearly isn't because of the style

>>9960112
MISSING
THE
FUCKING
POINT

God why are fuccbois so fucking retarded in 2015

>>9960353
wow alden boots are made of cheap level chomexl leather? didnt know that. I dont own a pair, but if i paid $600 for a pair of alden boots id expect the leather to be top notch.

>>9959926
>nexus mod manager

nice, skyrim?

>>9960391
indeed
handled some last month
store was proud to have their lasted collabo with alden
summer chukka things made with varying colors of cxl
seemed tissue thin compared to some other makers, pre-creased without even having been tried on.
worse than my indy's in natural cxl
compare the cuts used on these to my viberg natty cxl, and it's like night and day
shit compared to the thick cuts I've seen on white's boots
hell, even oak street use a better quality cxl

funny that the alden's weren't substantially cheaper in the end in comparison.
thinner, poor cuts (hair holes, or whatever they're called), loose grain and veins too

at least they're comfy, so they have that one thing going for them
but so are my other boots, so yeah, not really a consideration

don't buy alden cxl, they cheap out big time

>>9959121
>wouldn't even think they look that good in person
get a pair and tell me they aren't some of the cleanest sneakers u ever seen

>>9959161
It's alright bae

>>9960507
I mean I guess so, but I still copped the ari's. Needed a clean black low for San Francisco and the summer and I'd rather spend bigger numbers on more interesting shoes.

>>9960112
thats only cause your average pleb does not know what CP's are

stan smiths are iconic

>>9960599
Or they don't care about a plain white shoe lol. Like I said,
>hype
they only mean anything and look cool to those that choose to care

>>9959121
>talks shit
>acts like fashion god
>has never seen cps
>bought fake cps
>wears converse

lmao drop trip

>>9960785
>reading context
converse that I had
never seen cps in person because noone wears that shit where I'm at or even in seattle when I went lol. saw plenty of kva and rick.

fake cp's? plain black shoes are somehow fake? would you care for me to make a list of every simple plain shoe ever made so you can call them all fake. cp's were not the first lmao. it's a tennis shoe. calm down

On one hand, I sort of want to get these because I can't really justify spending $400 on cps, but on the other hand, I feel as if these will be a compromise and I might be disappointed if I do get them.

>>9958939
can the CP shills please point out the differences with these and CPs? they keep saying it looks like shit but they can't explain why

>>9960896
Only if you let yourself man. You might be more disappointed spending the $400, though. I say opt for the most comfortable medium you can find and buy that. CP's just simply aren't worth it unless you're a celebrity and a stylist chooses them for you to wear, but in that case it doesn't even matter. I chose arigato's because the marketing and message behind it I really like, and it seems like a really honest company.

>>9960937
They don't look like shit. Like there's literally nothing wrong with them. They just don't like when another company see's the success of Common Projects and decides to imitate for their own benefit, which in itself there is nothing wrong with. It's the most common business practice. Most COMPLETELY original ideas don't do well, or require some sort of support from already established brands, or celebrity endorsement

One's in OP are completely fine. They're 100% leather, seemed to be stitched (decently, at that), and have an overall nice look. Better than 85% of what most non-fashion conscious people wear anywhere. Be comfortable with that. You'll stress yourself out otherwise

>>9960937
see
>>9960353

>>9960989
but only that specific shoe uses the cxl, the others use nappa leather - same as cps

>>9961005
They're only going to give you responses that are in their favor. They won't generalize the brand and shoes overall because of the risk of giving any kind of credit

>>9960989
I'm talking about the plain white leather ones.

>>9958939
Other than minor differences in the toe box these look exactly the fucking same as CPs.

>>9961028
Yup

>Not wanting to support a brand that's signature video is centered around a foreign 80's, crime-esque theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm_fpoEs36s

>>9958939
Kind of tempted by these as well.

I don't own CPs because I missed the last sale but still want something decent.

Anyone have experience with these or Axel Arigatos?

>>9961064
Neat. His stupid fucking website is broken though.

>>9960186
no-- point out a difference in the shape ("silhouette") of a brand new cp and a brand new gustin, idiot
>you shouldnt even consider yourself fashionable
k

>>9961096
What? Works fine for me. Might be where you're trying to connect from or your internet. I have that issues sometimes and just restart my pc and it works fine. idk if it's a cache problem or what.

>>9961102
Yeah, deleted my post because it worked straight after I posted. Cool shoes though, cheers.

>>9961083
If you can wait like ~6 days I will review my ari's when they come in.

>>9961083
>I don't own CPs because I missed the last sale but still want something decent.
What sale are you talking about?

The Gustin shoes are new and not even out yet, so no one knows what they are like.

>>9961111
No problem man.

>>9961116
probably the tres bien one. maybe ssense. i dont go on mr porter (or ssense for that matter) really so it could have been that as well. id check tres bien though they have the best site and business practices in my opinion and it's very easy to use.

>>9961158
I heard about that sale on tres bien, but all of them were sold out before I got a chance to see the cost. How much were they going for?

>>9961114
Okay, I'll be waiting!

>>9961116
Tres bien had them on sale for like $250.

>>9960522
So basically you're talking all kinds of shit about CPs and you've never even handled a pair in person?!

Drop trip immediately.

>>9960896
If you spend more than $300 on CPs, you're doing it wrong. Just sign up for emails with the retailers that carry them, and wait for them to go on sale. I have 2 pair and paid in the $260-270 range for each.

>>9958995
Oh dude please don't buy from this fuckign hack the photographer should get paid millions their shoes are so shit in real life the sole was all fucked up, shitty leather, and a thick ass tounge. I put them on and immediately sent them back

>>9961283
Lol I have plenty of designer sneakers, have handled clothes from acne to the houses of SLP and dior. I know what quality clothes and shoes feel like. I'm fully aware that CP's are great quality, I just have never personally been bothered to scope a pair out and look at them. The price and fanbase of the brand is just complete shit and I don't personally advocate purchasing if you're in the market for as simple, standard, low-top shoe. Only buy them if you meet that criteria and you just want CP's specifically. People shouldnt be convinced common projects are the ONLY viable choice if youre looking for that type of shoe.

>>9960937
You see how the leather on these are all wrinkled out of the box? It's indicative of shoddy craftsmanship and shitty, cheap leather that will wear like shit and get all manner of unsightly creases and wrinkles. Here's a pic of some year old Kent Wangs to illustrate the poit - http://i.imgur.com/DO2lVPh.jpg

By the way, don't listen to GOD. He's a pleb who's never even seen a pair of CPs in person and has no idea what he's talking about.

>>9961317
Lol I've owned paint splatter margiela's and they were pretty nice, but I sure as fuck would NOT pay full retail for them. I liked them but the hype around any "designer" (legitimate fashion house or upcoming brands) is ALWAYS going to set sights far higher than the product ever will be. I'm sure they will be fine. I'm not expecting leather made of gold-coated marshmallow clouds, I just want something better than the shit I can buy at my closest stores (or at the same level, like barney's)

>>9959121
trips really are the fucking cancer. You wear fucking converse but try and say designer sneakers are no better and only hype. I swear if you actually bought them you would see how wrong you were. From the very first time I put them on I knew it would be a problem because my reaction was "how will I ever wear regualr shoes again"

>>9961336
Lol... If it was really that indicative of "shoddy" craftsmanship, I really doubt the entire team behind these shoes and photography as a whole would allow this photo to have been distributed on their official website. And you can't illustrate any "poit" by posting a shoe that isn't even the one we're talking about. The leather on the shoes in the pic related looks very soft and like they'd be comfy out the box.

Do you even know how many threads people have made about CP's being a bitch to break in and being overall uncomfortable? And unlike CP dickriders I'm not saying that to be the truth for the entirety of CP owners, but reviews ARE first hand accounts.. Also, what is it with you guys and "thick tongue'd" shoes? Margiela's have the exact same thing and it just feels like a fucking marshmallow. Like that's it. Do you want a hard-as-cardboard paper-thin tongue that cuts the front of your ankles?

Sorry I haven't held CP's but have (and owned) other brands below, and above, them. Really proves no point.

>>9959112
>these disGUSTINg shoes are even close to cps
>gustin jeans are close to samurai

stay poor

>>9961353
literally what the fuck are you on about?

>by posting a shoe that isn't even the one we're talking about

that picture is of the gustins

>>9961353
owning a pair of disgustin sneakers is like owning a ferrari f430. you know one day a guy wearing a pair of common projects with a 458 italia will pull up right next and you'll immediately feel inferior.

take your whiny, reasoning son of a bitch ass back to MFA

>>9961342
>still saying I wear converse
lmao I've already addressed this once since making the post. If you read the post, you would understand I was describing the pair of converse "i had owned". Surely you would read that as "converse i currently own" because that would give you a reason to have something against me, but alas, not the case. Also I've already made so many posts on here about owning designer sneakers. Not once did I say designer sneakers are hype. Should I dumb down how I talk so you can understand context better? If you can't understand that EVERY brand HAS to have hype and inflation of price to do well and make any sort of profit, you are delusional. I was simply stating it as a point and using the circlejerking of CP's specifically, on this board and other fashion websites, to explain that they are not a necessity and just promote sheep-like financial decisions with a lack of forethought.

"oh, all these dudes on this site say cp's are sick because they're easily the cleanest shoe ever
"ah man Idk if I can cop $350 is kind of alot"
"just save fag, cop a job its not even that much"
guy that clearly can't afford them then probably buys them, never wears them because they're nicer than everything else he wears and he'll feel bad, and then sells them on grailed or w/e else.

>>9961353

By team you mean the guy who orders the shoes and a photographer?

>>9961367
You posted about kent wangs and shared an imgur picture of them. Unless they come from the exact same factory with the same materials, etc. etc. etc., that's not a valid point of argument.

>>9961369
i don't even want whatever that brand is called's sneakers. I was describing the differences and talking about both brands from an objective standpoint and explaining the inane hype around CP's.

I've been to MFA maybe once because threads are crossposted on here somewhat frequently??

And no, I'm fully aware of all of my purchases and what I'm doing, as well as potential alternatives. That and I'm fairly secure in myself as a male, so I really don't think I'll give two shits about his "458 italia". Projection of your own insecurity, maybe, but I have less petty things to worry about.

>>9961377
I just mean everyone involved with the creation of this shoe. Designers, photographers, etc.
>inb4 design wasn't required because it's a re-hash etc. etc.
I get that, but someone somewhere had to come to some sort of comprise that this would be the final result of their shoe.

>>9961322
ok man I'm speaking from experience but if you want to be close minded go ahead, I guess that's why you're a trip eh?

>>9961382
people like common projects because they're easily accessible and have a (mostly) positive stigma attached when worn. that's all you have to fucking know.
are you concerned about the price tag? then don't fucking buy it.
end of the story.
if you like those shitty disgustin sneakers then go ahead.

>>9961370
>tfw $300 doesn't even sound expensive anymore because you never go out so no reason to spend money

>>9961353
So if you get a apir of high end sneakers and they're all creased up out of the box, you're cool with that?! You should be asking yourself why they couldn't find a pair that wasn't wrinkled up to photograph. Kent Wanf sneakers are relevant because they have the same type of creasing problem. At least those don't come all wrinkled up out of the box.

You're out here selling them wolf tickets. I don't believe you've handled a pair of luxury sneakers in your life. I also own Margiela GATs, and the tongue isn't really thick on those.

CPs are actually quite comfortable out of the box because of the supple interior lining. The only people complaining are the morons who size down (CPs are TTS).

Drop trip.

>>9960396
Skyrim, Fallout NV

ITT: Poorfags that want CP's without buying CP's.

>>9961408
Once again, I never even said I liked them. I'm just trying to validate the opinion of those in this thread that do, because I don't feel like they have that much of a reason to be hated. If they are what you are looking for, there is no reason to buy them
>>9961418
iktf
The amount I casually spend now on single articles of clothing because all I have to pay is rent and like fuck else is ridiculous. I just don't want to be seen with CP's.

Personally when I see someone wearing an incredibly hyped piece of clothing in public that's ridiculously priced, I instantly perceive them as that much less interesting and like all of their decisions are dictated by other people. Stuff like Supreme Box logos don't even bother me, because they're reasonably priced for what they are and are generally very inoffensive. CP's just scream, I wanted a simple sneaker, I had alot to spend, I bought these. There's alot of very interesting alternatives out there at a very similar price point (and not necessarily lower, some even higher). CP's are just an easy way to get buying that part of your wardrobe out of the way.

>>9961420
Lol... I've posted my splatter gats, dbss, whatever the fuck else, on here numerous times. I even sold my gats on grailed. And the tongue isn't thick, no, but thicker (denser) than most other sneakers. I've even seen the (suprisingly small) collection of sneakers at Barney's New York in Seattle and was largely unimpressed. You're not paying for anything specific with those shoes, it's just something more interesting to buy for those with money. That's why normies who don't care about fashion will never understand it, even after handling them. They're not made of gold or some shit (which they will argue as well), it's just a different shoe with marginally better craftsmanship. And I don't honestly like completely crisp sneakers. I'd probably want them as clean as possible, yes, but if they're like that brand new and obviously not from being pre-owned, then that's fine. It's just the way the leather is going to wear in.

and the whole sizing down or up thing on here is a whole new issue entirely. I can spend the $100 I saved by buying some underground rap/band merch and supporting them, which I do fairly frequently.

>>9961408
>positive stigma
Didn't know being a fuckboy memer had positive stigma

>>9961525
It doesn't.. lmao

>>9961525
>>9961542
Being poor doesn't, for sure.
Keep being poor

>>9961552
>implying
at least I can tell you're mad

>>9961627
Really? You should've used the $12,000 you spent in Community College for a Psychology degree for a nicer pair of sneakers then. kek

>>9961408
>easily accessible and have a (mostly) positive stigma attached when worn
polo errythang

>>9961627
>once again implying
not even in school, hombre. I don't care about money, hence me letting it flow into exorbitantly expensive clothes. why would i pay money to make more money, which i dont care about initially. id just blow it on more stupid shit. i just let it come to me, i dont chase it.

>>9961813
>>9961874
zzzzzz

>>9960522
>>9961886

Bro, don't talk shit about CPs before you haven't even TRIED THEM ON.


When I first came to this board around '09 I thought people were fucking nuts to buy $400 shoes.

Still thought they were nuts in '11 as well.
Well last year I had some disposible income so I decided to buy some CPs from barneys to see what the hype was all about. I can return them if I don't like them, right?
I get them in the mail.

Holy lee shit. The hype is real my friend. These things are the most well built shoe I've handled and feel great.

You can tell who hasn't tried them on or even felt the leather, because if they did they wouldn't talk shit.

yeah i guess bottom line for me is: i own a pair of gustin jeans. i also own jeans from iron heart ans samurai. are the gustin jeans even in the same ballpark as the saumrais? no. not even close. what the gustin jeans are is a entry level pair of raw denim for poor people. I'm going to assume the same is true for the sneakers. expect a nasic, entry level pair of leather sneakers that are probably of beter qualiy than stan smiths, but not even close to cp's.

>>9962314
>most well built shoe I've handled

>has only ever handled expensive contemporary cut & glue sneakers made from "premium leather"

backed it.

>>9962314
>These things are the most well built shoe I've handled and feel great.

>tfw when everyone called my cp's "nurse shoes" back in 2012

>>9962555
thats because they are

>>9962314
lmao confirmed pleb
I mean im no hater towards CP's but you obviously no experience in designer sneakers

>>9962330
/thread

actual laugh at cp fags who think their middle of the line standard sneakers are anything special. It's a classic design done with a little more quality than what you'd expect from adidas etc.

>>9962341
yeah pretty much.

>THEY ARE MADE IN ITALLLYY


embarassing when people feel the need to dick ride a garment because they spent some money on it. Even worse if the amaount was 200 dollars for second hand shoes on grailed