/fa/ - Fashion

I'm also really interested in what elements of walter van beirendoncks new collection actually make it to stores. Vibing heavy on the explicit beauty collection even if i can never afford his work. Nice to see him garnering good responses from the fashion world again after getting so boring for a while.

You guys do keep up with fashion, right?

Hey! what about that raf simons guy, you guys know him right?

>>9937960
hope i'm lucky enough to get my hands on a plastic nazi buttplug brooch

>>9937997
you know it dude

theme of the collection was actually crazy topical when it happened. cant believe he managed to whip up so many pieces in reference to events that happened only weeks before the show.

>>9937977

fucking lold what the fuck was he thinking with those hideous vests?

>>9938002
i'm really not familiar with the collection at all apart from having seen a few stills during fashion week. care to fill me in? never been big on beirendonck but there's a few pieces from way back in the archives that excite me.

>>9937969
Hey how do you recommend keeping up w fashion? I am really interested in fashion but don't really know places to look and stay up to date. Any recommendations on how to learn more & get more involved in the scene? Rly like the photos you dumped

>>9938014
The overall theme was on artistic freedom, and commented on recent events in which art had invoked violence (notably the Je Suis Charlie shooting, and the destrution of an inflatable butt plug sculpture, hence the necklaces.).

The phrase warning explicit beauty was just a phrase he used to highlight the importance of art while criticising those who harm others over it.

It's been a while since I read about it but I think that was the gist of it. He's been big on making broad cultural statements recently, what with his anti-racism moves in his previous years collection.

>>9937956
He's doing the David Bowie pose in this pic.

>>9937969
How about this guy?

fun :)

>>9938018
Easiest thing to do is look at runways (style.com is the go to). That's a baseline for being up to date. Going further, for every major fashion show, showstudio's youtube channel will make hour long videos on specific shows. The guests range from interesting to downright idiotic but it's good for discussion. Their Head to Head series is anincredibly elloquent version of this, but limited to the big players (versace, burberry, givenchy e.t.c) due to the nature of the commentators.

Other than that, the occasional magazine interview or article can add insight but there isn't actually that much in depth reporting going on.

>>9938022
Truly Undercover has never been subtle about its influences.

>>9938022
if you look at the entire AW15 lookbook, each fit pic is a frame of him doing that pose

>>9938029
Thank you! Really informative

>>9938018
helps to have decent foundation knowledge so read up on your fashion history, check the archive for book recommendations. general historical and social context is always good so it pays to be informed.
basically it comes down to actually paying attention to the fashion calendar, watching shows, reading about designers, handling garments, sifting through people's opinions and finding value where you can. i think it's important to find what you enjoy, but to also look at the broader picture of fashion.
i think a practical knowledge of clothing is important but possibly not as crucial as understanding the art itself. then again neither are absolutely necessary for you to simply enjoy clothes. and there's nothing wrong with simply being a fashion observer.
it might take you a while, possibly years, for you to fully digest what's being shown and to be able to articulate your own opinions on things but it's a fun hobby : )
make sure you check out your local scene

>>9938011
He's trying to revisit his archives and pulls out some odd ideas from all over in this collection. Some see it as soulless but it's clear he's kinda just fucking with people and the nature of fashion progression.

It's not a great collection but still refreshing to see him move back towards high concepts after a few years of boring shows.

>>9938044
Another v good post, and book recommendations? & tips for checking out local scene? Who are your favorite designers btw or can you recommend and collections for me to look at

Fashion media darling Craig Green was so strong this year, I love how he can make such deconstructed clothing seem so elegant.

>>9938022
wow you are a true genius!!! nobody knew that before you said anything!! :-P xD

>>9938055
A couple book recs (I haven't actually read that many since I have a shit library for this stuff.)

Pierre Cardin: 50 Years of Fashion and Design. (A good book, if only a slight bit picture heavy, about a massive figure in modern fashion history.)

Japan(ese?) Fashion Now (Great, often referenced starting point in understanding Japanese fashion and the influences that guide it).

Like I said I haven't read much, trying to source more good reads but so many fashion books i've found are just pictures with nothing else to speak of, very boring.

Personal favourite Matthew Miller still doing his thing. Didn't love his whole set this year but he still delivers that minimal design oriented buzz that I love.

>>9938064
>that shit-tier personality

I was wondering if the other guy was impersonating someone famous too..

It's a damn shame Ute Ploier has only announced a womens line this year. Better than nothing but still not great.

I'm just gonna keep sharing shit until I get bored.

JW Anderson aw15, I love the guy but ss15 was way more cohesive with the lanscape designs, the styling on this runway doesnt really do it for me.

>>9938064
perhaps he is new and doesn't know

More Craig Green because media hype or not, the dude is undeniably talented

>>9938085
i am watching. thanks for sharing. interesting stuff.

>>9938089
what do you think of the brand Vetements?

>>9938089
craig, i....

>>9938098
Never had heard of them so I looked up their latest show. Seems very bold and ambitious wouldn't say it's the most refined selection of clothes i've ever seen, feels very 'just out of graduate school' but that might just be the tired me talking. Maybe if I looked at more of their older stuff i'd get what they're going for a little better.

>>9938102
Hey man new ideas are hard to come by these days.

>>9938120
I fuck with this look though, it's got that dumb future vibe I love with the utility belt/bus card combo

>>9938129
nah hes alright, the mono red look was insane. pretty inconsistent show overall though.

>>9938156
>inconsistent
It was pretty consistent stylistically. Unless you meant quality wise in which case I'd have to disagree, watching that show on video I just kept getting blown away by how beautiful his clothes looked in motion.

>>9938163
i meant quality, just a personal thing, the flailing strapey looks were obviously captivating but a lot of it wasnt my thing, esepcially detested the court jester esque jackets.

>>9938120
i like what they're doing
fw15 collection was seedy but charming
outerwear silhouettes were overwhelming
down and shearling jackets were absolute standout pieces
enjoyed the bombers and riders a lot too
margiela influence is very apparent, as everyone in the collective has apparently worked under him
seems that, like a lot of up and comings, that they're putting the emphasis almost solely on the clothes
which is apparent by the generic name and anonymity of members
still feels like a marketing tactic to me though
there were some comments about dubious construction quality floating around tumblr (pair of prematurely blown out jeans from fw15) but i imagine the guy was doing something retarded in his clothes to manage that

>>9938176
Yeah I definitely feel all that, I just personally react poorly to that massively oversized aesthetic where it looks like every aspect of the clothing is designed to not fit. When people like Yohji do it it feels a lot more elegant and wearable because he makes sure to give some basis of normality or just... tailoring skills? it's hard to say what makes him different to me.

Definitely cool as an artistic showing, but damn near impossible to see many people wanting to wear those outerwear pieces outside of fashion week showings.

>>9938056
I don't think deconstructed is the best way to describe Craig Green's work

>>9938193
Yeah you're right, I just throw around that word too often because it's spoken of so much in the fashion world. Maniacally tailored seems to be a more fitting term.

>>9938192
i think the yohji comparison is apples to oranges personally. it's obvious the image they're trying to evoke, like a girl wearing her boyfriend's jacket or flannel to the club, is this not a basis of normality? i agree that styling might be difficult with some pieces, though this is nothing unique to vetements.

>>9938220
I was comparing a style of oversizing that I like to another that I dislike is all. I get the idea they're going for but what I meant by normality is more an idea that there is some effort to provide fit to the clothing.

The flannel idea makes sense and is a cool, totally wearable concept, but those suits for example are wholly impractical and do nothing but make a bold attempt to stick it to the world of tailored suits, which has just been done to death at this point.

I do dig them and I like the youthful attitude towards what is often quite a mature and refined aesthetic but i'd like to see a little more focus on moving beyond big statements that belong more in an art crowd, that kinda stuff is what fashion school is for, hence my earlier criticism.

At some level though fashion is so subjective and I would never outright say these guys aren't cool, just not something i'd ever see myself wearing.

>>9938234
i understand where you're coming from in regard to oversized silhouettes. what do you think of, for example, earlier raf simons or juun. j outerwear?

i agree with your stance on practicality, but that seems to be limited almost entirely to their statement pieces (being coats and shearlings this season). i'd argue that any "big statements" are limited to those pieces almost entirely. the rest is more or less a stylistic, largely wearable take on basics like regular jeans, turtlenecks, the ma-1, a perfecto, military sweaters and so on.

>>9938205
Tbh after I said it wasn't deconstructed I was having a hard time describing what I would call his style I think "maniacally tailored" is perfect.

Also to keep thread relevant
CDG CDG was really nice as it usually is. It's always nice to see a more calm and refined side from Rei. This particular look is making me go crazy reminds me a lot of Paul H, so lovely.

>>9938308
But she can't leave here roots for too long

>>9938316
Some of the looks from this line are hands down the Cutest thing I've seen in the fashion world in a long time.

>>9938321
Kolor is a brand that I think is horribly underrated. The most recent collection was fantastic from the knits to the massive scarves, I especially liked the more out there tailoring as well.

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>>9938337
This fucking scarf is amazing

>>9938341

Bump for the only actual thread about fashion up right now.

>>9938029
Different guy but thanks dude! I just spent like an hour and a half and an hour on style,com and show studio respectively, and I think this changes fashion for me forever.

You're fucking awesome dude.

tfw you wont be able to cop any of these for years because muh lack of money

Lemaire had me frothing at the mouth this season. Undoubtabley his strongfest collection to date, it was lovely to see him play with less traditional pieces and working them on men, especially the capes.

Pic related, copping as soon as it's available.

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>>9938029
Personally I prefer Firstview. The layout is a little clunky and not as pretty but you can find some shows that I haven't been able to find anywhere else