/fa/ - Fashion

>>9905327
Yeah man, i have it and HATE it. Still losing weight. From 99kg 183cm to 84kg. Wanna get down to atleast 72kg. Hopefully it won't be a problem then. P.s. how do i lose weight in my legs? My upper body isn't that bad (minus the nipples) Most of my weight is in my legs.

>>9905327
how old are you?
just wondering.

Just take your tits and rub them vigorously for 5 minutes every day. That's what I did and it cleared it up.

>>9905340

24 in a few months. Doctors have been telling me "it'll go away" for 10 years. It gets to a point when you understand that they are just putting you off with excuses to not treat you in any way because the insurance doesn't cover something that is "cosmetic".

>>9905342

stimulation makes glands grow

Just watch the big lebowski, the dude has gyno and doesnt give a fuck

>>9905347
Well it worked for me. You have to run them super hard.

Yep. It's easier to hide in cold seasons. My trick is this http://oldnavy.gap.com/browse/product.do?cid=38196&vid=1&pid=897636002

In size Small.

>>9905327
i cant even wear just a t shirt without this shit bothering me

>>9905336
run

>>9905345
wow, yeah you're beyond help.
only thing to do now is to just build muscle under it till you can't see them.

>>9905410
I'm 18 I've had it for about 4/5 years now is that too late for it to go away?

>>9905327
pic related doesn't have gyno, but he has been taking hormones as part of his transition

>>9905416
not too late, but you're getting there.
If you really want to get rid of it, the only thing to do is get skinny.

I'm thankful I don't have that bug I always presumed it was because I'm toned. Working out doesn't fix this?

>>9905421
>pic related doesn't have gyno, but he has been taking hormones as part of his transition

If that were true, then why does he still have excessive body hair?

>>9905430
its not fat, its breast tissue that cant be burned off

>>9905428
time to run again and get even skinnier. Ill prob see doc again and see what he says

>>9905421
>>9905433
forgot pic

>>9905336
Run long distances not short ones

>>9905327
I actually have small breasts and a androgynous face so it works in my favor I guess. Idk I accepted it years ago.

>>9905353

I'd rather be missing one ear than having the gyno I have.

>>9905410

I have muscle and it helps a bit, but they are never flat. It's like having a tumor that doesn't belong and won't go away.

This is the only source of insecurity in my life. I have been able to burst trough any other adversities in relationships, education, family and work, but this just stays there..

>>9905448
From what I understand, generally if you still have gyno at age 18, it's most likely not going to go away. The only way is through surgery.

>>9905336
ignore other replies, you cannot control where the fat in your body is lost, if you're losing weight dont change up your routine, the fat will go from where your genes decide. no amount of area specific training will influence that, although working the muscles of areas can make them appear slightly less fat via you having more muscle tone in the area.

>>9905456
my gyno is a little bit bigger than you

after I stated workout, people started mistake my gyno as chest muscles.

don't know what it called, but it gonna make your chest look different than just gyno fat.

>>9905327
save up for surgery. problem solved.

>>9905518
Dude. Get some shoulders. Even if you're going for the slim look, having some shoulders increases the sex appeal and gives the slender shape a better looking figure.

>>9905520

Saving 4000 euros when I'm earning 600 a month and I have to pay the rent, food and bills would take me years. I don't contemplate that in the short term.

Why is private medical care so ridiculously expensive?

>>9905571
That's cosmetic anyway

>>9905584

There's "cosmetic" as in "I want my lips to look fuller" and "cosmetic" as in "I'd like this protusion that is growing in my chest to go away".

You can get a lipoma excised aven though they are benign but if you are a man and you have enlarged glands behind your nipples ruining your chances to look at least normal, it is cosmetic surgery.

>>9905639
dude just head over to the deep web and score yourself some letro.

My nipples fucking oscillate between normal an puffy

:(

I have it, always been a tough thing to deal with, my confidence is still shit and I'm turning 26 this year. I was going to bring up to a doctor that maybe my testosterone levels are low to start medicating, not only because of this but I've have low energy / thinning hair / etc. for quite some time. I just wear button ups constantly, even in summer. As you can imagine I LOVE fall and winter.

>>9905639
Nah, it's cosmetic. You're just obsessing about stuff nobody except you even notices.

>BAWWW I DON'T CONFORM TO MY AUTISTICALLY SPECIFIC BODY IDEAL THAT WAS CREATED BY THE INTERNET
That's you. Insurance doesn't give a fuck about that. Grow up and lrn2deal.

>>9906093
How's your diet? Do you get any exercise?
Get nolvadex or letro.

get to a private surgen and get them cut off like they do with moles

Thats nothing you faggots, I have a pectus. It's not visible when you wear clothes but when you're shirtless it's awful...
I am now just old enough to do the operation, three months of intense suffering that is. My body would be godly without that pectus, god fucking damnit, I'll be so happy when it's fixed.

>pic related, it's a pectus, side view is much worse

>>9906128
Diet is pretty good, when I was little I was pudgy because I ate like shit. But when I turned 13 I changed myself for the better, I haven't even had a whole can of soda since then. I drink nothing but water, coffee, and tea. I make sure I eat fruit, grains, vegetables, some meat, almost on a daily basis. I even gave up gluten a couple years back, only having it occasionally these days. It's certainly not my diet. I don't actively exercise, but my job does call for me to be moving around 8 hours a day. I just don't feel like any exercise would fix the issue, I think it's deeper than that.

>>9906148

forgot pic
here it is

>>9906149
Just making sure you aren't deficient in any vitamins or minerals.

Just hop on nolva/letro to kill that estrogen

>>9906152
Could be worse

>>9906152
How do they fix it? Does it require incisions into the chest, and if so, what scars would be created?

>>9905639
gyno is benign, so therefore attempts at removal are considered cosmetic

>>9905327
No. My nipples are tiny. Must suck not being able to take your shirt off because of bitch nips

idk if this is gyno or not but it still annoys the fuck out of me. i can't wear normal t-shirts. im planning on losing about 25-30 lbs to see if this shit is still here and if it is idk what to do because i can't afford surgery


18, 5'11, 177 lbs right now

>>9906445
another angle

>>9906093
My body looks like that as well, should probably get on those estrogen blockers too.

this >>9905365 is excellent, pretty much like spandex only 100% cotton and looks natural.

Also, go with heavy cotton t's.

>>9906520
*like spanx

>>9906520
What the shit am I looking at here

What the fuck is this

WTF IS THIS

>>9905518
>>9905456
theres another angle of this picture where it looks like he actually has tits

gyno is a fight you can't win no matter how hard you busy your ass in the gym and hit chest or whatever. surgery is the only solution

but yea, for the time being im wearing compression tanks i got from amazon. They get the job done but theyre super uncomfortable and i hate that the lining shows through my clothes

>>9906625
Bust*

>>9906445
heh? it looks normal. like really normal

>>9906093
puffy nips are defiantly caused by low testosterone when I was on hormone blockers for 2/half years I started growing puffy nips towards the end. I think my hormone level around this time was 17 or 9 (this is a Australian test? not sure what measurement). my T levels are down to 0.8 now and im not sure what they where before the hormone blockers I imagine much higher but they haven't got any more puffier etc than they did just on the blockers so to me that says they are not a "feminine" trait but just a trait caused by a different balance of things or low T. and I was mid to late 23 by the time the nips showed up so my testosterone would be naturally dropping at that age any way. Girls get puffy nips too thou so I don't think its totally a sign that your feminine because all girls have low testosterone basically
about 0-7 which is lower than the range when i started getting them i guess? I think its probably caused by a balance sort of thing so I wouldn't advise thinking of it as a sign of weak manhood etc and I don't think taking testosterone for sexual performance is a good idea I think it only makes sense for bodybuilding as I bet you can still get a boner right? (because keeping a boner have nothing to do with T). Also thinning hair and low energy have nothing to do with low testosterone. however even if your genetically disposed to it even low levels of testosterone could be enough to make your hair start falling out because of your genetic make up at a set age especially because your about my age at 26 which is sort of older. With this in mind I don't think it would be wise to start testosterone because you could loose all your hair while if you don't start T and put up with the nips you could have decent hair cover for the rest of your life. my advice would probably be to look into your energy levels and ignore every thing els.

>>9906935
Another thing to consider is hair thinning/falling out does happen from stress / life / emotions etc and if your on 4chan stressing about your abnormal nipples then I would say this is pretty likely. But yer just because your on FA you should probably change your diet just in case that's it but nothing too extreme maybe get a iron and all possible Bvitamins test done. But yer cant stress this enough I wouldn't recommend going on testosterone. And ultimately I would recommend trying to think of them as just a chill part of your body operations suck and I don't even know if increasing your testosterone would remove them you know? but it could remove your hair so its not worth the effort I think

I've got it on only one nipple which looks fucking silly (used to have it on both, but one recovered). Right now I'm losing weight and exercising (right now I'm 1.85/77kg), but if that doesn't help I'll consider surgery.

>>9906148
>tfw I have a pectus and puffy nipples

>>9906093
average female testosterone is 0-7 I started getting puffy nips when my testosterone was some where between 9-17 and it had been at a reduced level for 2/half years because I was on hormone blockers.

when you consider this and then consider that puffy nips are rare in both girls and guys I think its safe to assume its not a sign of low manhood or femininity but more of a imbalance/developmental TIMEING based thing and once they form they don't go away. Your worries about Low energy and THinning hair caused by Testosterone is wrong thou these two things could both be caused by emotional factors. or even thou your thinninghair and you "think" you have abnormally low testosterone it could actually be MPB because that's more genetic and even with low testosterone it could still be enough and taking T would just amplify it rapidly which is what you don't want if your low confidence. With this in mind and especially at your age I wouldn't recommend taking Testosterone because you could loose all your hair in the next 3 years while if you don't take it you could have thick hair for the next 30 years? do you understand?

also because your on /fa you should probably completely change your diet. I know this is hard to do but I bet you diet weird every one on fa does so change that and see how your energy goes. also maybe get Iron and Bvitamins blood tested for the thin hair. If you have no other physical problems I think that's as far as you have to go.

realise this thou this is really important information.

so before 20 girls have very divergent levels of hormones so one girl might be 1000 and another 240 or 100 when the girls get closer to 20 on average they all end up with about the same hormone levels around the age 20.

for guys before 20 they are all about the same and puberty is pretty standard for them all however after 20 some run on lower levels of testosterone while some run on much higher levels and ultimately both male and female drop over decades

>>9907004
what this means is that before 20 girls have a wider difference in hormones meaning some look older or younger than others. and for guys after 20 some look older or younger than others. this linked with a society that thinks girls peak or are "no longer good" after 21 means that that myth that guys age slower than girls exists for every one from about 20-45 even thou its not actually true its just from 20-45 most women are same hormone levels so they cant look super young or super developed for their age like girls can under 20. This creates a myth of age around sex hormones people think testosterone just makes you better which it doesn't it actually makes you look older. This also means anti aging clinics prescribe Testosterone to make males feel/look younger which is actually wrong higher testosterone levels make you appear older to the average person however they do make you feel younger its common for a 19 year old male with highest testosterone levels he will ever have in his entire life looking like a 30 year old I remember it happening to a lot of my friends and now that they are 26 they look younger.

Any way back to your nipples.

My advice would be to not have operation on them because that's the only real way to get rid of them because scares in that sensitive area would look bad in that area. I would say consider what I have said and realise its a abnormality not a sign of femininity (you can grow them with out any female hormones like I did) and maybe just focus on your energy and confidence. which both unfortunately are not effected by testosterone unlike what socialising might make you feel that's all social conditioning.

>>9905362
nice b8

>>9905327
tfw skinny with tiny pointy nips and sometimes you can see them through my shirt

a bit homoerotic but who give a fuck

a lot of surgeries for this usually end up in the removal of too much fat which makes the nipple look inverted so i think its better to just keep ur natural body guys :)

i'm not sure if i have gyno or am just skinnyfat

>>9907443
B8

How do you know if its gyno or you are just a fat fuck?

>>9907443

that's why you cut before having the surgery. I know a guy who was chubby, had an appendicectomy and his scar caves in because when they stitch you up, the layers or muscle, fat and skin crumble together. I had an inguinal hernia surgery when I was skinny and it is not noticeable.

>>9906093
is that fucking beer belly? go fuckin do some situps and work out.

>>9906450
Are you seriously insecure about nipples? Just cut them off and you'll look like an anime guy.

>>9905345
Tell them it causes depression, and that it makes you want to kill yourself. There will be more of a chance of them covering it.

I understand your guys feelings but you are probably way underestimating your bodyfat levels. Get to single digit bodyfat, ACTUAL single digit bodyfat, and for the vast majority of you it will go away. Get lean, put on some muscle, and your "gyno" which probably isnt gyno will be mostly unnoticeable or go away completely. In the meantime, don't worry about it so goddamned much.

>>9908989
Yep, plus they'd be great on a lunchable pizza.

>>9906093
You're fucking fat, go lift weights and do cardio, you moron.

>>9909565
Good pro tip

>>9909602
this right here.

been cutting and seeing major results

I've also heard that for some it gets "worse" the more weight they lose. The more the fat is consolidated under the nipple the "pointier" it will become just keep cutting and they begin to shrink.

definitely a good idea to workout while loosing the weight. building muscle mass in your chest helps

best of luck

>>9906286
They will place a metal bar thingy on your ribs, that thing will push it outwards. It has to stay in place for 3 years. They say it feels like you have a bag of sand on your chest the first 3 months.
I'm happy the scars arent big, 2 of 3 cm for inserting the metal bar and one of 1 cm for the camera. You can see some more images on google, it's a pectus excavatum.

>>9905433
effects of androgenic hormones aren't reversible with gynogenic hormones, the stronger male hormones win out the female ones

>>9905327
yes, i first had gyno when i was around 14 (i'm now 23) and soon developed a habit of checking my nipples, glancing down, patting them down, etc

i don't know anything about fitness, but pushups made mine less apparent. i have the huge glands still, but i'm not self conscious about it anymore

>>9909967

are you a homo?

legit question. I can imagine a queen-type gay showing them at all times and making them part of his personality.

Puffy nipples go against masculinity in every possible way. I don't get how people just don't give a fuck.

>>9909967
you look great, wtf are you going on about?

>>9910019
yeah, i'm gay

>>9910033
i guess it's so not bad anymore, but it was really damaging in the past when my normal weight was 40 lbs lighter. a girl in one of my classes asked if i had breasts and being found out like that paralyzed me

>>9905345

Tell him that it is rubbing on your shirt and causing you pain. Pinch your nipples red before you show him. They remove moles that way too. If that cause pain or are precancerous it's covered, if it's for cosmetics it's not. Maybe see a new doctor when you do this. Doctors aren't that bright in my experience, certainly surgeons and specialists are good, but general practice doctors are pretty much plebs that majored in something weak like biology. Plus they're all old as fuck and so outdated.

do i have gyno?

>>9910874
no

>>9910874
Hi Birthday <3

>>9910890
its his picture but he doesn't post it
its an old pic for start, and if he really was posting and wanted to know he would have used a more recent pic
second he clearly doesn't have gyno, which just suggests that its a troll clearly

>>9910905
Hi Birthday <3

thanks for making me conscious about mine
I used to think it was because I was fat but after losing weight I still kept the majority of it

buy some sort of chest bind/brace?

>>9906148
>>9906152
I used to have pectus carinatum, or "pigeon chest" (the opposite of what you have). I noticed it when I was about 10 and asked my parents and they just said it was part of puberty/growing up and that I'd grow into it.
It hurt like hell when I laid on my stomach and was pretty obvious when I wore a t-shirt. Everyone always asked me about it.
>lol is that a uniboob xD
I got surgery on it during my freshman year of high school.
I wish I had some before pictures, now I just have a scar which makes a face. This one grill I was dating a while ago had a weird obsession with scars so she was really fascinated by it.

>tfw random zit

>>9906445
do gym, don´t be a fool.

>almost 24
>puffy nips
>used to be fat as a kid/teenager but became tall as fuck which made me skinny
>don't have the "hard" things under my nips
>not sure if actual gyno or just skinny fat

>>9906148
>>9906152
i have this as well, but it's minor and a doc already told me it isn't significant or noteworthy enough to require any surgery, but if i want to i could get it done for cosmetic purposes. goes without saying it isn't as deep as that guy's in the pic you posted. a guy i knew in high school had it too only it was much deeper than mine, don't think he wanted to bother with surgery.
mine's very similar to mcmillan's, his is probably a little deeper than mine, and i also got hair on my chest so that could help making it less visible.

>>9911052
knew a guy who had pigeon chest, jesus christ is that horrifying. having your chest being a little indented, whatever not the end of the world you still look fine with clothes on, having your chest bulge out in a point? ow, the edge, literally. it looked so uncomfortable i could barely look at him when he didn't have his shirt on.
>It hurt like hell when I laid on my stomach
yikes
>and was pretty obvious when I wore a t-shirt
must have sucked hard.
good for you you got it fixed man.
do you tell the bitches you got into a fight once and the fucker pulled out a sword and sliced you and that's how you got the scar? because you should.

>>9911267
Yeah the big joke is that I tell a different story about how I got the scar every time.

Goes from either shark attacks to knife fights with methheads

>>9911204
deffo skinnyfat, my guy. eat more healthily and pick up some iron. legit takes not alot of effort to look at least halfway decent

Body thread? Body thread.

Give me the lowdown on dressing for barrel chest.

>>9910874
no. literally never think about it again.

>>9911204
lose weight
150 lbs if 6'4,
140 lbs if 6'2
130 lbs if 6'0

>>9910905
here's a more recent one

do i have gyno? I know that i have pepperoni nipples so pls no bully

>>9912269
What are those blotches? Are they bruises?

>>9911651

high waisted pants, no shirt. chest hair optional.

>>9912272
yes, bruises

>>9912269
wtf is going on with your shoulder?

>>9912313
on the right of the picture? I think it's just the sun shining through the window

>>9912275
>>9911651
Yeah pretty much this.

>>9912472
denim dan you have a very similar body shape to me I'm this guy >>9912269

long legs, short torso, barrel chest. what size waist are you?

>>9912485
My waist is a 30 but I buy size 38 pants. It's because I often do the 'up and tuck' with erections and I therefore need to leave room for my considerable girth.

I have gyno on my left side only. It's not major, but I still hate it.

>>9912547
Same dude!

I'm getting surgery in a couple months

>>9911267
>>9911052
Seems like I'm not the only one with a deformed chest. Thanks for writing all that, it made me learn a bit more.Btw guy with the pectus carinatum, how did they fix with you?
They say I'll have 2 scars of 3cm and one of 1 cm for inserting a camera during operation.

>>9912517
> I often do the 'up and tuck' with erections

what do you do with the spare 6" though?

>>9905327
I have this too, and as pathetic as this sounds I have denied sex because of it. Not too mention I pretty much never take my shirt off.

>>9914656
Dude.

No.

At least get sex. That's just depressing.