/fa/ - Fashion

disgusting

>>9885931
Personally, not a fan.

>>9885931
Nah

Just get proper leather shoes and polish

pre homelessing

those look absolutely disgusting. Get Alden cordovan longwings and shut the fuck up

i never understood burnished toes. Maybe I'm not classy enough. Then again, if you are, then just buy a fully polished fucking shoe.

>>9886034
those shoes are 700 fucking dollars

>>9886065
I think it is fully polished, it just has some wear burnished onto the toe so it looks older.

>>9886066
Cordovan's are priced high for good reason

>>9886066
this the kind of shoes that last a lifetime.
Have it resoled every 5-10 years and it will look even better with age

>>9887514
People who say 500 dollar shoes last a lifetime have a fucking closet full of 500 dollar shoes.
Of course they last forever if you only wear them once a fucking week and mince around an office building.

im of the opinion that aldens are overrated. i know, i know, every so called fashion buff glorifies aldens as being god tier boots, but im convinced most of these people havent actually owned any. mine look creased and shitty after less than a year of average wear. worthy of $700? I certainly dont think so. so before you start sticking your tongue up aldens anus and worshipping them, id advise researching various websites and read reviews. you can do much , much better

>>9887756
>>9887756
those boots are 700 bucks?
What the WTF?
Do you do any real work in those?

>>9887789
no, sit in a cubicle and do accounting in them. i run excel spreadsheets in them.

>>9887791
Oh ok, Ive heard excel can be pretty hard on shoes.

>>9887756
You definitely haven't cared for those at all... leather creases no matter how expensive it is. THAT BEING SAID, the aldens I've handled have underwhelmed me in terms of construction, stitching was wonky in at least one area on each pair.

I cannot wrap my mind around 700 dollar work boots.

burnish bump

>>9887731
even 2500 dollaros aren't too bad, considering the cost of a lifetime of regular shoes

>>9887789
they're not workboots you stupid nigger

>>9887756
My brother has two pairs; they were like 800 per pair
Alternates them every day
Five years in they're comfortable, holding up extremely well, and garner compliments frequently

>>9890197
>>9890197
So he has two purr. Probably some other shoes as well , so really they have lasted like a year so far.

>>9890194
how are they not work boots?

>>9891796
nobody actually wears a shoe every single day. jesus christ. why are you getting so booty blasted about this? there is literally nothing on the face of this planet that is suited to being a shoe that will withstand that for so many years.
you know the kind of shit i do in my shoes? wading through rivers, doing up to my knee in mud, walking miles (while my shoes are still wet), hiking, climbing (not legitimate climbing mind you, but still stress that is atypical for shoes), leaving my shoes outside because they are wet and caked in mud, not using shoe trees, the list goes on.
i mean seriously dude, if youre>>9887756, and you wore those shoes every day, for, idk 9 months, because he says less than a year, than your shoes are in pretty damn good condition.
i simply destroy chucks, because the awful shit i put them through, and thats with wearing desert boots, hiking boots, winter boots, vans, two pairs of leather boots, and two pairs of leather shoes. ive never had a pair of beaters last more than two years, and i wear them until they simply dont work as shoes anymore, not until they get a crease or something. i wear my chucks until the canvas is ripping, there are massive holes, the rubber is coming off, hell i wore a hole through the sole of my last pair.

if you dont take care of your shoes, they wont take care of you. shoes are tools, wear the right one for the job, and take proper care of it, or it will fail you.

>>9892172
>>9892172
And that is all I am trying to say.
Shoes wear out.
Buying expensive shoes does not save you fucking money. I get so sick of hearing that shit.
Rich peoples shoes last for many years simply because they have shit tons of shoes.

>>9892192
expensive shoes do last longer, especially if you take care of them properly.
if you cant afford to own more than one expensive pair of shoes, dont buy one expensive pair of shoes.
i had a pair of $24 (poorfag) desert boots that lasted through 4 years of really bad abuse (including hiking 5 miles in the snow because citys are shit and i thought it would be plowed). theyd still be going strong but they got fucked by the salt in the aforementioned snow, i thought it actually looked cool at first, but it started to irk me more and more so i gave them to my mom to see if she could donate them, since they still worked fine, no holes or anything, just coated in really really thick salt.
it doesnt matter how much you spend, one pair of shoes will never withstand everything. but a pair of hand made, locally sourced, hand cured, high quality leather, boots, that you take care of properly, will last you a lot longer than my aforementioned chucks.
could you just through hike the AT on repeat for a decade? no. no way. but will they last the rest of your life if you use/wear them appropriately and take care of them? yeah.
my chucks wont last the rest of my life if i wear them only a few times a weak. they just wont. and i wouldnt even want them too, which is probably more too the point, really.

also you shouldnt be wearing the same pair of shoes every day, not for longevity reasons, but because youll be stale as hell. one pair of shoes wont work for every fit in every setting, and you need to change it up some times.

>>9892140
a work boot generally has some sort of actually useful properties for work??

>steel toe
>actual grip

>>9892269
>steel toe
if your in a situation that you need a steel toe you dont want it. unless you like your toes being cut off. then i guess its all you.

>>9892289
there's plenty of situations where you can have your toes broken and ruin your feet forever where a steel toe would've helped and not harmed you

>>9892235
>expensive shoes do last longer, especially if you take care of them properly


see, this is bulllshit.
any shoe past shit tier quality will last a long time if you baby them.
Handmade , expensive shoes are well taken care of always. This is the ONLY reason they last longer.

Mile for mile, under similar care conditions, price means dick.

>>9892474
they will still last longer, but they will only last forever if you take care of them.
why are you getting so upset about it?
$700 is a bit excessive, but like $200 is going to last a lot longer than $35. they just will.
besides, if your not taking care of your shoes, you dont deserve to own them. and that goes for everything you own. take care of your shit you stupid sperglord

>>9892497
I am not upset, just trying to let you know that you are not correct.
700 dollar shoes do not last longer than 100 dollar shoes, they just dont.
Its a myth just like organic food is more nutritious . Its just not true.

>>9892544
dude you are booty blasted

>>9892564
Oh GOD, please don't resort to this.

He's right; you know it, and I know it. Well-made leather shoes are going to have the same lifespan given equal care and repairs - $700 is a price premium paid for a brand name, that's all.

hi, joining in this interesting conversation. i dont think its fair to compare chucks to a pair of leather hiking boots, obviously. I do think price matters to some extent, but i will say this: i think its sily to assume that just because a boot is made in italy, or made in the us., or wherever, that its inherently a better shoe and wil last longer. i disagree with this. i have made in china boots, with vibram soles, and leather uppers, that have held up just as well, if not better, than my made in the usa leather boots which were 3 times the price.

>>9892602
well the price is arbitrary, but it is an indicator. if you pay more for an inferior product, it obviously wont.
high quality leather, made into a high quality boot, by hand, by a skilled craftman, will be better than something that isnt. and it will be more expensive than something made in a sweat shop.
but if you pay $5,000 for some special pair of shoes, for whatever reason, its obviously not going to be 10x better just because its 10x the price.

>>9892634
i guess i can agree with this for the most part. but why do we assume that shoes/bots made "by hand by skilled craftsman" are always going to be better than ones made by machines or factories?

>>9892650
well, if were assuming the best conditions, it will be. if the guy does it because he loves it, and he takes his time, and hes careful, and hes knows what hes doing and hes really good at it.
if hes overworked, and its just another shit job, then it wont be as good.

>>9892663
Most shoes I have ever had , its not the craftsmanship that wears out, its the leather.
there is only so high quality your leather can be. any shoes over 100 bucks are made with good leather.
Moire expensive leather might have a nice finish, but it will not last longer.

in other news, what do you guys think about these rancourt heritage horween chromepak boots? $320. leather is supposed to be top of the line.

>>9892729
I used have a pair just like that when i was a homosexual.

What the fuck are chucks ?

>>9895185
>mfw

>>9887756
Lol what Alden's cost 700 dollars besides their cordovan offerings. Most other leather are 550 or less.

>>9892544
Uhh more like 200. It's hard to find shoes that can be resoled below 200. Unless your buying second hand or seconds.

>>9895478
The shoes in the OP are on sale for 45 bucks.

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>>9894063
lold

>>9895185
>What the fuck are chucks

>>9895185
its a nickname for a kind of shoe created by tiger woods. hes famous for mixing lemonade and iced tea, you might know him as golden bear.

>>9897662
>>9897662
>>9895185

>>9897919
kekeroni

>>9890188
>>9887731
>>9886066
>not buying $10,000 shoes
fucking poorfags

>>9887756
>. i know, i know, every so called fashion buff glorifies aldens as being god tier boots,
which "fashion buffs" have you been consulting?

Alden is infamous for having atrocious quality control for the price
Bad customer service
Blobby lasts (subjective).

People who "know shoes" avoid alden, and
only gung-ho ones about it are the "buy merrikan 4ever!!!!!" fags.

Was in a shoe shop last month trying out some cordovan ankle boots.

The alden pair I tried on had two crooked speedhooks.

Seriously, WTF? Even red wing and budget chippewa can get that shit right and alden unionized workers can't even set fucking speedhook on the right way around?

The salesman gave me a look when I pointed them out and said "Ah, yeah, it's "very american".

Bought some C&J for the same price.
Infinitely better QC.

I don't like any of the aldens I own. I gave them enough chances, but they're just shit. Thin, bad cuts of leather.
Poor stitcing prone to fraying and loosening.
Speedhooks all fucky.
Poorly dyed shell.

I should've listened to all the warnings and just bought English (edward green/trickers/c&J et.all) or Spanish (carmina) for the same price or cheaper.

>>9895535
Okay... I don't believe they would be resolable after the sole wears through though, and you probably wouldn't want to resole them because the leather would be horribly creased because it's shitty

>>9899773
>>9899773
This is where you are wrong.
As I have said before, most shoes over 100 dollars are made with good leather. The idea that 500 dollars gets you much better leather is a fallacy.

>>9900101
So you're saying cordovan is just marketing bullshit?

ayy lmao 30 bucks

>>9890188
Arguably beyond 1k theres not much difference beyond minor details between shoemakers. Diminishing returns as some people say. Maybe more interesting leather and finish, but construction wise don't think theres much to write home about. Even better shapes and lasts caps out at around the 1k mark from my observations

>>9898341
What RTW shoes cost 10k? Or are you referring specifically to MTO's? The most I've seen so far is John Lobb's precious leather line which go around 6k (?) for RTW, dunno what's beyond that.

>>9900133
cordovan is horse leather and it looks like ass. might as well buy corfram , none of the subtlety of real leather. plus horses are our partners in hunting . cows are just food.

>>9900210
Painstakingly-made alligator skin shoes can usually go for low five figures, but they look very tacky and for someone not already wearing discernibly high-quality clothing, they could be confused for patent $80 shoes

>>9900101
Do you have any supporting evidence to his claim or are you being a sensational moron?

>>9900213
everything in this post is wrong

>>9887731
This
>>9887514
No. Cordovan is somewhat more durable than calf but the price difference is more than enough to offset that advantage

You're better off buying three pairs of calf with the same design unless you absolutely must have horsey shoes

>>9900248

>>9900213
Technically cordovan is horse butt, so i guess technically you are correct in saying it looks like ass because it is ass. Horse ass.

>>9900236
Yeah, the lobbs i was talking about is alligator. Not sure what hits 10k at ready to wear retail tho. Bespoke, maybe, but even that's a stretch imo

I will burnish your moms toe if you know what i mean...

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>>9900703
I...have no idea what you mean actually.

>>9900562
Its actually horse anus. That's why it's so soft yet durable and expensive.

>>9900101
Yeah 500 might not get you 5x better leather than 100, but if you are at all observant the 500 leather will crease much finer and you will have less chance of loose grain creasing.

>>9900101
40 yr old c&js, which have experienced heavy wear over the years vs 2 wear old shit shoes you seem to love

>>9906833
Shit shoes now