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This is going to be a thread dedicated to Androgyny coming from it as a male,
over time I have collected inspo and through trial and error have found a good basis for assimilating that into my regular style. There are always new threads asking the best way to pull androgyny off, I want explain androgyny clearly in relation to how I see it.

I'm not claiming that this way is the best way, there is obviously many ways of achieving a particular look in fashion. I'm not saying you should copy this but rather take aspects and build upon your own knowledge.

This is a teaching thread, not a discussion on gender fluidity or a place to throw around unsubstantiated insults. I'm trying to do this for the betterment of the board. b chill

I'll cover this in sections but I will probably add more as I go seeing as I do not have a set plan:
>base appearance
>intended silhouette and colour scheme
>Staple items for your wardrobe
>attitude and posture

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>>9518098
>Base Appearance
Firstly you need to be skinny,
This is because its easier to hide your masculine frame under clothes and disguise your frame to make it less clear of your gender. Also being slim is a much more feminine quality then it is masculine. This means that you want to avoid working out and any exercise you do you want it to be calorie burning and not muscle gaining.
This includes long walks, long-distance runs, core-body exercises and long distance swimming. Anything which builds arm or creates large leg muscles is to be avoided, or to be do lightly.
Yoga and Zumba is also a good option to create a slim feminine profile.

Your weight should be below 20 BMI and should be made of as little muscle as possible. If you have failed this part then you should stop pursuing this style until weight loss.

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>>9518146
>Face care
you need clear, clean skin. I don't believe you should wear makeup. This is because it makes it too obvious what your trying to achieve as well as putting you more in the cross dressing category. As a result you need to try and put forward the idea of the perfect skin that makeup can provide for woman.

To do this you need to wash your face with soap every day, moisturise often and exfoliate once or twice every week. If this causes you skin problems then make your own treatment but make sure to make your skin is blemish less (as blemish less as possible).

The second aspect is stubble control. Shower in the morning, shave straight after. you never want stubble, it looks horrible for the look we are trying to achieve. you should give up completely if you leave the house unshaven. If you grow a beard so quickly that you get a 5 o'clock shadow then shave at lunch or admit that your probably to old for this look.

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>>9518184
>eyebrows
for gods sake pluck your eyebrows, they dont need to be small, perfected lines that you see on woman because that would look ridiculous but they have to be clean and tidy.

This can be achieved through plucking any hairs which are outside of the main area until they are satisfying dense. at the ear end make sure they point and if in doubt find some inspo and try to imitate that as well as possible.

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>>9518208
>Hair
You can always grow out long hair which will make your androgyny more pronounced but I understand many people don't want this, myself included, As a result I suggest either an undercut or pixie cut. But be warned this does not work as well on men as it does on woman in the androgyny aspect. This is because men are expected to have short hair so unless you have a very pretty face with pixie like features it will probably disappoint you a little. However it still conveys the idea your putting forward better then any other style of short haircut.

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>> No.9518294

this is actually a really good thread. Androgyny isn't for me but this is a good, informative, interesting thread. thanks for posting

>> No.9518327

10/10 inspo
Quality advice
Couldn't tell you the gender of any of the pics here
Good shit

>> No.9518348

>>9518260
Is that hitler lol

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>>9518294
>>9518327
thankyou

>>9518260
>Tops
The main goal that you want to achieve here is hiding your masculine body and wearing feminine textures while putting forward a feminine silhouette without actually wearing anything that is labeled as womans. wearing actual woman's clothes is not always a good idea because the fit comes off as awkward. due to our lack of breasts they often droop under the shoulders and away from your armpits.

Instead try to stick to wool and fleece for your tops these are both non-aggressive and thick. Thick, lumpy jumpers will allow you to better play with your proportions and hide your manish ribcage and shoulders. You also want to go oversized as it will appear to make your shoulders less broad and will allow you to put forward more feminine proportions (the way oversized clothes rest on your waist will hide your narrow hips). This is vitally important when wearing skinny jeans as I will get to.

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>>9518377
This is a good example even though he, himself isn't androgynous, the sweater still gives that impression

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>>9518392
>Pants
Here I haven't found any other good option but skinny jeans, mens legs are not particularly different from woman's if you are skinny enough and it will also hide your leg hair (which you should at very least trim for your own sake) but it is also a staple in woman's fashion. classic black leggings can be imitated by very skinny, black jeans.

If your wearing baggy jeans be careful to make sure you have your fit completely on-point because its hard to pull off. If you're wearing shorts you must ensure that they are the right length (which you should base off pre-existing woman's shorts that you have seen/which inspired you) and your legs are shaved (or v. closely trimmed).

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>>9518448
>shoes
essentially you want to follow basic bitches here. Find unisex clothes that more woman wear then men. Also avoid anything which has connotations of tech-ware or sports-ware which are two areas where men are dominant. Were looking for that cute vibe. You may see thousands of woman everyday in Nike flyknits + free runs but they're also wearing skin tight clothing which we can't pull off with our figure.
As a result the best shoes I have found are:
Dr. Martins (1960 and 1901 with yellow lines)
they have a huge following among woman's fashion but also a strong representation from feminine men.

White hitop Converse
a staple of basic bitches but also an unisex shoe

Adidas Superstars
despite being the new memes are a great option because the blunt nose stops them from looking like clown shoes for us with big feet.

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>>9518498
>outerware
Big olive/khaki parkas are great

Coloured overcoats cross both genders quite well. avoid black because black is a far to aggressive colour and has connotations of men in business suits which is something to avoid

Cardigans, because of how sleek and slim they are they can be hard to pull off if your body isn't perfect but they look really nice and are obviously extremely feminine

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>>9518524
>colour
Obviously all colours are acceptable but as a general suggestion I think Palewave is a safe bet for constructing your fit as it has a very non-aggressive feel to it as well as being worn more by woman. Saturated colours should be mostly avoided unless they're used in a ironic sweater because they are quite loud and are often worn more by men then woman. Monochrome is also good but make sure that your fit does not come off as arrogant or aggressive as they sometimes can.

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>>9518498
is this the same qt asain

>> No.9518577

>>9518184
>wash your face with soap every day
useless motherfucker

>> No.9518585

>>9518565
>conclusion
I think that just about finishes what I would like to say, If you have any questions ask away or if you have anything to add then please contribute. I'm tired as hell now but Ill dump the rest of my inspo later in a couple hours

>> No.9518656

Post more hair inspo please
>>9518231 is great,

Also, >>9518208 is an actual girl right?

>> No.9518659

Cheers snow, v. helpful

>> No.9518685

>>9518498
how about white lowtop converses for outfits with shorts?

>> No.9518690

shit thread, shit advice, shit trip

sage hide report ignore curse

>> No.9518714

>how to be a twink

>> No.9518724

>>9518585
would an androgynous look be weird on a short guy? I'm skinny but it seems most androgynous guys have the typical model body

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>>9518098
cool thread, nice intro to andro

>> No.9518768

>>9518098
thanks OP, this should be useful I think

>> No.9518788

wow what the fuck... i am at a loss for words

this is actual autism

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Ian crutis was og

>> No.9518831

>>9518565
I liked that alot, the source is STEVEN ALAN FW 2014
http://gaptoothbitch.tumblr.com/post/79873622060/steven-alan-fw-2014
via
http://givemethathing.tumblr.com/

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I'll post the rest of my inspo now
>>9518685
low tops work, I only mentioned hi-tops specifically because I see more of them around
>>9518714
yeah there is a lot of overlap between the two. twinks often try to look androgynous, its part of the culture
>pic related
>>9518724
you can be short to pull this off, just not stumpy. It depends on your facial features but short people can do a much more convincing job imo

>> No.9518961

>>9518348
mah nigga
I imagine both boards have a massive crossover.

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>>9518948
a good coloured overcoat example

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>>9518971

>> No.9518981

>>9518098

how to be androgynous male without people thinking you are fag?

>> No.9518996

>>9518981
just be skinny and wear fitting clothes... i don't know why these idiots think theres a uniform for this look just be young looking

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>>9518981
Fuck a lot of woman I guess

It could be done but some people would still think that your gay, thats just the way it is. If your scared of being called a fag maybe its not for you

>>9518979

>> No.9519007

>>9518981
Look like a sleek David Howie without loads of makeup

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i am going to be perfectly frank

i would be very surprised if snow wasnt a cointelpro agent of some kind using /fa/ as means of estrogenising and pussifying boys that are already vulnerable to this kind of brainwashing.

i request this agent be banned.

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>>9519026
time to counter this homosexuality psyop by posting some beautiful ladies.

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>>9519031
beautiful ladies that you wont get looking like a 12 year old girl, women want strength, even if some, and the media, like to pretend they dont.

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>>9519031
so thirsty for attention, post some beautiful ladies if you like, ill join


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>>9519042
this is an outfit that works well for men as well as it covers your adams apple

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>>9519042
dressing like you recommend is only going to land you mentally and physically ill 'feminists' and women of ill repute.

>> No.9519057

>>9519052
how much can you bench poo poo

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>> No.9519061

>>9518809
thats not androgyny though, thats obviously a man

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>>9519057
200

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>> No.9519091

>>9519071
w2c glasses?

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>>9519231

>> No.9519292

>>9519061
he kind of looks like a lesbian if you stare hard enough

>>9519071
you're beautiful

>> No.9519296

>>9519239
I love the cut

>> No.9519317

>>9518568
Who is this? Dayum

>> No.9519326

>>9519098
Ayy lmao

>> No.9519332

>>9518242
How would I achieve this haircut?

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girly men>>>masculine women
tinfoil's scarecrow look was p nice

Tinfoil is/was my favorite trip

why did u leave us tinny

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>>9519373
pls someone tell me who this hot piece of ass is

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I'll be able to really rock this look if I just manage lose 6- 7 kg. Got a really feminine body and face as well as long blond hair.
Here's an old pic I've posted before:

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>>9519381
this is just stuff i like to stare at and pretend that i can draw without tracing because i am a talentless hack

>> No.9519394

>>9519388
ugly, sort your life out.

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>>9519388
u r a girl, and not buff enough. do not want.

>> No.9519400

>>9519388
Wow like no joke i think you're cute as fuck
I really hope your bi

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>>9519394
back to your containment thread pigfuck off you go

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>>9519398

>> No.9519410

>>9519401
ugly
gay
disgraceful
genetic dead end
ignorant teenage embarrassment
waste of thousands of years of breeding
trash
embarrassment to parents and forefathers

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>>9519394
hey pigfuck u loser u once asked me if i was "turned on" or someshit

if the question was in regards to u the answer is an an unequivocal NO, NEVER, EVER,EVER EVER

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>>9519417
>pigfuck will never be this alluring

>> No.9519421

>>9519417
i have no idea who you are people impersonate me all the time because i have a personality and i dont trip

you seem real stupid

>> No.9519423

>>9519398
I'm not a grill.
>>9519400
Thanks. And sorry to disappoint, I'm a full time faggot.

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>>9519420

>> No.9519436

>>9519423
>full time faggot.
mentally ill pervert

less than 1% of the worlds gay population is actually genetically predisposed to liking dick, chances are you're a sexual deviant idiot taught to be gay and obviously too stupid to realise it.

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>>9519421
TRY AGAIN YOU UGLY, leering SOB
>>9519423
still not into u, not buff enough

also am qurl

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>>9519436
>sexual deviant idiot taught to be gay


You'll be LUCKY to find someone who's fetish is disgusting bigoted cracker ass

>> No.9519451

>>9519442
oh you're black

my condolences

be good in this life and you might get reincarnated as a superior animal like a lion or something, keep being good and you'll eventually be reincarnated as a human.

this is my advice to you

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>>9519442
>listening to girl moaning in pop song while posting this stuff

oh god no, please no.gif

Th-these pics are n-not driving me crazy, koda kumi-chan. n-not at all wtf

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>>9519451

am worse, pure white European bag of dicks like you

I know that's worse than being black to u but i dun curr

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>>9519457

>> No.9519466

>>9519457
i dont speak tumblr

like any beta female you want my attention and dont know how to go about getting it

white or not you have the iq of a black, demonstrably so, so follow my above advice.

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>>9519466
>>9519466
wanna fuck bby
wink wink

I'll only pay attention if you post pic of upper body, cover up ur face plz

>> No.9519484

>>9519466
>>9519451
>>9519436
>>9519421
>>9519394
>>9519394
worst new namefag, please be a trip so i can filter you

>> No.9519490

>>9519484
>new

l o l

mods ban these high estrogen boy pussies

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>>9519476
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>>9519527
where did this homo go? I'm running out of pics to trace, goddamnit.

>> No.9519534

>>9519476
women who dont post their face and body are worthless

doubly so if they're stupid

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>>9519534
post ur body hottie, I will use it...for things. :3

TORSO OR GTFO

>> No.9519542
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>>9519532
ALSO ANYONE WHO LOOKS LIKE GAY MAN:
Please, post pic of torso in various angles, please and thank you. I love you.

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>>9519542
Gay man, i will pretend to be a man if you post more pics of body. I known that vags are disgusting. Let's pretend i don't have one. i am buff man too. Please love me. Please. I don't know what is happening. I'm sorry.

>> No.9519550

>>9519548
post your tumblr

>> No.9519553

Is this "troal minister" a regular here? Xer/zer fake way of writing to seem not to give a shit is eerily similar to twerkit.

>> No.9519556
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9519556

whats with all this shit posting? I leave this website for 2 hours and shits already derailed. although I find it funny that minister and pf are fuelling each others egos by replying to each other. like trolls trying to troll each other because for the others attention

>> No.9519563

>>9519556
Thanks for the inspo. I'm bi but I really don't think I can pull off the androgynous look because I'm 6'5"

>> No.9519565

>>9519556
It's newtons third law. Since the tread was initially so uncharacteristically informative and good for /fa/, it has to balance out in the end.

>> No.9519571

>>9519565
the fact that you think this thread was informative or good says a lot about this board

>> No.9519574

>>9518260
>hitler

top kek

>> No.9519578
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>>9519553

>Xer/zer
what
I am >she, please refer to me as >she from now on. Piggy knows who i am.

>>9519556
posting fucking women's faces
>shit posting

screw you, just cause u don't fap to dudes doesn't mean that their looks aren't androgynous inspo for females

Lol Piggy is just getting off on the attention he's getting. I wouldn't call what he's feeling reciprocal.

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>>9519578
is this suitable? Can't even tell who's the gurl here. Maybe none?

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>>9519580

>> No.9519586

>>9519571
the fact that you post your naked girlfriend to impress other people on a taiwanese papercraft forum says a lot about your insecurities

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>>9519583
I'm sorry if I'm creeping tinny or any one of u decent blokes out.;-; he's such a nice dude. He has a lucky gf.

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>>9519563
>I really don't think I can pull off the androgynous look because I'm 6'5"

Pah, you can pull it off you just need to be slim.

Grow ur hair out and wear tight fitting clothes.

>> No.9519592

>>9519586
ive never had a gf dude im incel

thanks a lot for being a prick

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>>9519590

>> No.9519599

Thanks OP now I'm depressed because I'll never have a qt3.14 androgynous bf.

>> No.9519600

>>9519592
i know

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>>9519596
let's see ur sexy body, bring it ooon~
jfc that song has played at least 4 times in the past half hour despite the mp being on shuffle

why, kumi-chan, why do u write such vulgar lyrics.

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>>9519601
orwo wooo woo ooo!

tfw no qt tricky dick shoe wearing gf

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>>9519607
oshiete AGERU~~

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>>9519609
i don't want to miss youuuu~

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>>9519610

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>>9519614
ohmygod kumi-tan u r my bff too and i like u too
omg ily pls

pls kumi-chan, pls *swoons*

>> No.9519649
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9519649

Tried to follow the guide. Any suggestions on my fit? For shoes I have basic white leather sneakers in the mail.

>> No.9519651

Is is possible to be /andro/ if you don't have milky white skin.

I'm short skinny and sort of look like this >>9518448 but the fact that I'm not completely white (Half Indian/White but my skin is kind of brownish, think Chris Brown) probably ruins it.
Is there any hope :c

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>>9519649
remove shirt so i can later fantasize about it, please
>>9519651

no! don't bring urself down anon ;-; You're perfect they way that you are. *huggles*

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>>9519654

:<

Am I being too weird...I can't help it. so sorry.

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>>9519649
no, but seriously, remove shirt

>> No.9519668

>>9519654
I have broad shoulders and I'm skinny af. Trust me, I look better with a shirt on.

>> No.9519673

>>9519649
It would look better if the pullover was a bit longer.

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>>9519666
>>9519666
lol trips of EViiil

if anyone want to chat/send nudes (no peen plz) to kinda drunk, weird chick my kik is komuheda

ok..then. bye.

>> No.9519677

>>9519673
The disadvantages of being 6'5" :<
I could have gotten an XL which would be ~1" longer in the body but then the sleeves would be way too long. I'll be on the lookout for another pullover with a longer body.

>> No.9519678

>>9519668
dude, that sounds hot.

don't be insecure

>> No.9519679

>>9519654
t-thanks anon, I will keep trying

>> No.9519688 [DELETED] 

>>9519676
how many dicks been inside you

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>>9519649
its good but doesn't scream androgynous, I like how the sweater falls off of your shoulders and I think if the chinos could be skinnier it would help. Its certainly on the androgynous spectrum as I could see both guys and girls wear this but it doesn't have an indicator. Like something you see and think "ok that is what he is trying to accomplish" but with androgyny that can come from a particular item or it can come from facial features, hair style but also through your mannerisms and stance.

I also agree with >>9519673 a longer sweater would help. Your white shoes could also help depending on which ones you buy

>pic related
This is me, using a similar sweater but I layered it with a similar colour to create extra length. The sweater is also slightly baggier. The fit of the pants is subtle but slightly tighter pants do make a difference. The shoes are not perfect, I realise that now but thats not why I'm posting this pic.
If someone has a suggestion on how to improve this I would like to hear it, despite making a thread on theory I am still far from perfect

>> No.9519722

>>9518568
No

>> No.9519727

>>9519317
http://calupico.tumblr.com/tagged/no

>> No.9519731

last time I posted my fit on WAYWT
I was called a female/tranny after wards lmao

>> No.9519918

honestly while i do think it's fun that this thread exists, the "guide" should have been left out because, well, it is severely lacking and only really applicable to skinny white teenage boys and completely reliant on a slightly feminine face. Could it be called androgynous? Yeah, sure, but what makes up traditional masculine/feminine clothing? In a historical setting and in recent years? Across various cultures?

>> No.9520951

>>9519731
one guy asked if i was a girl

made me happy inside

>> No.9521631

>>9519918
should've known id find u here sweden

>> No.9521636
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Which is more disgusting:

Effeminate men or masculine women?

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>>9521631
yet you make up a third of the posts in this thread

>> No.9521652

>>9521642
u don't know me
ull never know me

>> No.9521656

>>9521636
effeminate men are qt and fuggable in theory, unfortunately in reality they're always super catty obnoxious loud vapid limp wristed caricaturishly horrible gays.

masculine women are beastly.

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>tfw too ugly to be androgynous

>> No.9521827

>>9521821
lol life

>> No.9522077

>>9518948
blowjab is the andro god i can never be

>> No.9523213

>>9519292
not really.
>>9519677
buy large and then taper/alter it yourself.
>>9519700
hmm
to me, it doesn't look androgynous, but I guess compared with something a man may typically wear, it probably is.
it's hard to tell in that photo, but maybe something that pulls in the waist just a touch so that the subtle image of an hourglass figure is conjured?
i mean, I wouldn't really know what to change, esp since the angle of the pic makes it hard to be androgynous in any situation.

(and I'm thinking of androgyny as "is this person male or female" not so much "femboy" or "tomboy")

>> No.9523309

>>9519423
I want to fuck you :3
You have a smapchat?

>> No.9523342

>>9519700
Honestly it looks barely androgynous because I don't think you've taken your own advice far enough. If the sweater was bigger+thicker and the pants were skinnier it'd be way more effective.

>> No.9523520

archive this shit

>> No.9523874

>>9523520
threads not dead yet bro

but we don't even have the classic archive like we used to, just screencap the posts.

>> No.9523938
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Not posting brian molko for inspo

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>>9523342
I agree

>>9523874
>>9523520
Here, you can save this

>> No.9524359

>>9519388
qt

>> No.9524370

>>9518524
w2c nice parkas?

>> No.9524487

niggas with the twink starter pack

what do when old? whens transgender?

>> No.9526272

bump

>> No.9526294

>>9519052
I don't believe he's recommending anyone dress any particular, he's simply posting inspo for those who choose to dress that way.
>"stop liking what I don't like"
>2014+1

>> No.9526298

>>9521821
Ride looks in pain here.

>> No.9526309

>>9519042
hrrrggg

>> No.9528774

save from 404 pls

>> No.9528848

>>9524487
my plan is to get really built when I start to lose my boyish face and body I cant grow facial hair though but a beard would be sweet too

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>>9518208
young paul mccartney is my eyebrow inspo

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Is Dane Dehaan androgynous? I've always seen him as a effeminate /fa/ version of Leonardo Dicaprio.

>> No.9529067

>>9529045
but (young) leo was effeminate and /fa/

>> No.9529643

>>9519622
devito tier manlet

>> No.9529812

Thanks for this guide, wasn't aware I was actually aspiring this look. I've always had a sort of feminine face, so kind of been looking for ways to accentuate this.

>> No.9529876

>>9518448
My feet are really small. Anything you can recommend me to exploit that?

>> No.9529921

>>9518231
doesn't a short haircut rely more on your facial features? so wouldn't a longer haircut look good on most guys?

>> No.9529948

>>9526298
ride is always in pain

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>>9529812
Me posting again. Question: how do you look masculine?
People have always been telling me I have my mother's looks, and I look best when my hair's cut in a way that I look boyish. Anyway, this is me, could I pull it off?

But back to my main question: how do you make yourself look masculine. I work in a pretty macho environment and I always feel the need to be all tough and shit but obviously I lose my credibility looking like a girl. I pretty much hate my work by the way and I'm looking for another place to work.

>> No.9529974

>>9529968
sounds like u need to be more confident

>> No.9529981

>>9529968
i think you look pretty good. if i were you i would gay it up even more and go for more of an androgynous look. you probably just need to work more on your confidence (manliest of all traits).

>> No.9529983

>>9529974
Yeah true wouldn't hurt

>> No.9529985

>>9529968
Listen to what this guy said. >>9529968
Your a qt, just be more confident in yourself. You don't need to try to look masculine.

>> No.9531468

>>9518098
POOFTAH
O
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F
T
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>> No.9531647

>>9529045
hes cute, but idk if I'd say androgynous
hes also getting close to 30 and looks like a teenager still, so thats cool too.

>> No.9531999

this shit isn't andro male models all have their beards IPL'ed off just because you think they are cute doesn't mean they are andro and just because you think you look cute doesn't mean you are andro.

also who ever posted grimes is retarded she isn't andro at all she is non binary gender/futa.

>> No.9532069
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Am I androgynous?

>> No.9532162

>>9532069
sry too ugly to be andro lol

>> No.9532208

>>9532162
:(

>> No.9532238

>>9532208
that shirt is maybe the reason + you need to change your hair maybe it'll get bette. why you wanna be andro?

>> No.9532261

Okay I have a question for Mr. Snow.

What about people with darker skin tones? I'm not pasty white, I have an olive skin tone. I'm also 5'5", 100lbs (manlet mode).
I think I have the body for this kind of look and I've been mistaken for a girl a few times (I'm not trans) too so I think I'm in pretty good shape.

Right now I currently wear skinny jeans and hi-top chucks, shirts are whatever i've had for a few years like graphic tees etc. I would like to switch up my wardrobe, but I'm not entirely sure what will compliment my skin tone, as all the inspo you have in the thread is white guys. :\

>> No.9532267

>>9532261
Ladyboy-core, lmao

>> No.9532952

>>9518231
>tfw equally like long hair and hitler youths

what do

>> No.9532964

OK THREAD LISTEN UP ITS TIME FOR THE MOST IMPORTANT AND RELEVANT POST IN THE WHOLE THREAD

>If you don't have an androgynous face all of this is useless and nothing can change that

>> No.9533192

>>9519609
Is there a colour version of this picture?

>> No.9533667

>>9519026
>>9519031
>>9519039
>>9519044
>>9519052
>>9519068
>>9519436
based posts

>> No.9534453

>>9519401
that picture is my worst nightmare

>> No.9534592

>>9524487
if your getting to old to be able to do this look I would suggest darking your wardrobe and move onto heroine chic which would include tailoring your sweaters so they are tighter but still long, ripping your jeans and wearing chelsea boots / beaten sneakers
>>9529876
YES, it means that shorts will work more in your favour as you are not going to look clownish. Also you should find/alter your skinny jeans to be tight all the way through to your ankle so they are closer woman's jean's cut. Most mens skinnies relax past your calf but if your not going to look like a clown they will look better tapered closer. I would suggest low leather shoes, i.e. 1961 Docs or a similar design with a buckle instead of laces
>>9532069
your face is quite masculine and your clothes arnt andro, so no. but you still have potential to be

>> No.9534613
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>>9534592
is this really snow though

i like Snow's hair, it's gorgeous and he has the perfect face shape for it hnnng

Does anyone know any irl models that look like him?

>> No.9534616

>>9532261
You seem to have a good base for this look, being short and skinny is good, if people are already questioning your gender then your most of the way there. I don't believe skin tone makes much of a difference(full blown african is maybe the only exception imo), my suggestions are still the same as far as clothing choice is. Being so short your going to give a feminine vibe off regardless, I'm sure you could wear mens clothes and pull this look off because olive skin is quite pretty.

I would suggest, colour wise to stick to earthy tones which will compliment your skin and size better then palewave. pale clothes and dark skin will make a strong contrast and draw attention to your face/hair/body when we want to do the opposite

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>>9534613
Oh DAMN wait
Snow is great andro inspo, dat 9 yo swede boy haircut doe

>> No.9534626
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>>9534622

>> No.9534633
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>>9532964
i ...agree. You could always contour ur face with hair but if you look like quasimodo it's hopeless.

Hell you could be fairly muscular and still rock the andro look but hideousness is a little hard to integrate into the look. Imagine beiber with the snow 'do. Fucking hot, right?

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>>9534633
he doesn't have as strong a jaw as snow but still.

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>>9534642
best andro body shape/clothing types for females imo

>> No.9534658
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>>9529045
kinda, yeah. If he had long hair he's be more feminine looking.
>>9532069
mmm...kinda. You have an angular jaw but you could easily pass for female imho.


how about me. /fa/. Can I be a pretty man? I have this odd neuroses that my face looks wayy too much like my dad's. If I could look andro, all my dreams would come true. I've been aspiring to look more andro for over 7 years, but am too lazy to lose more weight so my chest is flatter.

>> No.9534665

>>9534658
you already look like an mtf just go for it

>> No.9534667
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>>9534658
also pls no bully

this is is what i want to wear once i drop the necessary lbs

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>>9534658
no, you're too manly

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>>9534665
But i look like a pretty mtf, though, right? ;)

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>>9534668

Says the insecure megadork
please. I wish.

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>>9534658

>> No.9534678

>>9519332
First step is to show this pic to your barber and tell them you want this. Then gotta find the right products and routine. This pic doesn't seem to have product in his hair, but he prob blowdried it. I use tresemme keratin smooth serum before blow drying and it sorta ends up like this. However if your hair is too unruly, you'll prob have to straighten it and use gatsby wax. let me know if you need more info

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>>9534676
too manly

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9534681

>>9534677

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too round

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>>9534680

don't shit up the thread, or i'll have your head. You hear me, dumbass?

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>>9534684
well goodbye friends. i'm outside, where piggy can't harangue me 24/7 no matter how much he wants to.

>> No.9534689

>>9534658
holy crap! rofl!
how can someone post this in complete earnest. ur a big girl, just coz u look like a man doesn't mean u can be andro. honestly u probably look more manly than me

>> No.9534690

>>9532162
he's def not ugly, good jawline and no out of whack features he's got a great face. needs to do something about hair and clothes.

>> No.9534696 [DELETED] 

>the crowd ushered into the big red top tent
>thomas was eager to see the freakshow, it was his first time and hed never been so excited
>the crowd took their seats
>the lights turned out, all was dark
>thomas can barely contain his anticipation
>hes trembling with excitement
>the lights burst on, illuminating the entire room
>on the stage, once empty, now stands a conductor

>”ladies and gentlemen tonight we have only the FINEST and most TERRIFYINGLY repugnant freaks for your enjoyment!”

>the crowd however is most interested in one freak, the fabled PCOS girl
>suddenly they begin to chant in unison

>”BEE OHH CEE, B O C, B O C!”

>thomas joins in, the entire 500 strong crowd has began to create a cacophony of sound, the tent begins to shake at the mercy of their lust for the famous freak
>the ground begins to shake in unison with her footsteps - she comes, beckoned to their call, the crowd settles, eagerly awaiting their prize
>she emerges, 200lbs of bodyweight and 50lbs of clit, waddling out brandishing a full beard, a hideous hooked nose and am imposing anime collection.

>all those details seemed irrelevant to thomas however, it was what she was pushing in that gilded wheelbarrow that he and the crowd had come for

>the biggest clit the world has ever known

>she stopped, scowling at the crowd who were at this point clutching for their handkerchiefs, the stench of the foul voluminous clit was enough to kill a man if he strayed too close to its blood red body

>thomas soiled himself all over his new pantaloons, he didnt even notice, all he could think about was that BIG OLD CLIT

>> No.9534698 [DELETED] 

>finally the hideous creature known as PCOS girl ripped off the herringbone blanket that had masked the heaving mass

>there it was, the biggest, baddest reddest clit in the entire world, it looked like the starchilds head from 2001 only red, surrounded by visible stench lines, covered in sweat and yeast

>it was all thomas could do not to feint, never in his life had he seen such a repulsive, repugnant thing, it was otherworldly, some lovecraftian nightmare made real by a mad, hedonist god of slime and refuse.
>many members of the crowd did feint at the sight of the BOC, a woman to thomas’ left fell to the ground and was crushed under the feet of the fast maddening audience
>women shrieked, cried, bawled, men howled in agony and terror, gnashing their teeth and clawing at their eyes. those of weaker constitution shat and pissed themselves, many who by now had been driven to madness began to eat the feces that was filling the room.
>thomas was fixated on the giant mass, the seething, heaving red planet.
>PCOS girl had just begun her mad spectacle, her babylonian ritual of sodom and death
>she placed both hands on the clit and began to writhe them to and throw, this way and that, they passed over and up and down the filthy fleshball, slipping and clapping as the sweat and yeast formed a deadly paste.
>the clit began to tremble and undulate, expanding in mass, higher and wider did the terrible red ball climb, its musk doubling in potency - a man in the front vomited up a bloody mess before collapsing, dead.
>it was then thomas knew that he hadnt come to a freakshow at all, nay’ this was a sacrifice.
>the synthesis of sweat, yeast and precum metastasized, horrible sickly yellow yeast tentacles sprung formed on and around the clit.
>they reached out into the audience, entwining and coiling any that they came into contact with in festering serpentine grip of death.

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>as the sickening orgy of feces, death and sodomy went on around him, a filthy yeast tentacle slithered its way to thomas who was still transfixed on the ritual that would be his ending.
>as the tentacle creeped up his leg and into his mouth. the only words that came to him as he met his fate were ‘thats a big old clit’

>> No.9534749

>>9519587
any pics of this guy's haircut

>> No.9534861
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that feel when this is the thread that speaks the most to your aesthetic but doesn't want to post a
pic because anonymous.

>> No.9534872

>>9534673
yeah, i'd pound you.

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Best thread right now, props for OP

Funnily enough, i used to drown on pussy back when i used andro.

>> No.9535289

>>9518208
>mfw not sure if that's a grill or not
this kills the man inside me
i would go andro
>tfw i need to give up /fit/
;_;

>> No.9535319
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>>9535268
>>9535268
u were a visual kei dude? they're always drowning in pu$$y though. Probably have the STDs to show for it.

>mfw the sluts who've been to Japan say they meet a lot of effeminate guys like in ur pic who want to have sex with them without a condom and see absolutely no risk attached to that.

>> No.9535332

>>9519068
>200
This guy's legit

>> No.9536343

is this possible for a guy with a big head and nose?

>> No.9536410
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/fa/ i'd like to give androgyny a go, i wear skinny jeans, i wear comfy sweaters. am i effeminate enough though?

>> No.9536539

>>9519578
>I am >she, please refer to me as >she from now on

confirmed for he

>>>/lgbt/catalog

>> No.9536727

Question: what clothes to use in formal events? Regular suits?

>> No.9536763

>>9536410
yes

>> No.9536853

>>9518098
>a thread dedicated to Androgyny
>OP's pic related is clearly a dude
so much for that

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Myself from a few months ago. Born female. Almost everyone I met could not tell my gender.

For all of you considering this look, be aware it doesn't come without some problems. People WILL yell at you when you use a gendered bathroom. The opposite sex will be generally weirded out, and your sex will not count you as one of the boys/girls. It's much easier to become socially isolated.

That being said, being able to blend in as either is pretty damn neat.

I looked like this for about a year, if y'all got any questions feel free to ask.

>> No.9537193

>>9537175
ur cute wanna sit on my lap

>> No.9537230

>>9537175
I have a lot of questions

how old are you
London
do you sound like/associate with/ act like/ sexualize as- a male or a female?

>> No.9537390

>>9537175
It's the most punk rock thing to do nowadays, besides joining ISIS.

>> No.9537410

>>9537175
What do you look like now

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>>9518184
washing your face with sopa is bullshit, it only gives you dry and flaky skin...

Pic related me, so GTFO with your wanna be tips, Im andro as fuck

>> No.9537814

>>9518098
One question to everyone in this thread, why do you want to be andro? Do you feel like the opposite sex or is it just a fashion statement?

>> No.9537830

>>9537814
I really dont dress overly androgynous, I guess people could assume Im just a fagget cuz i have a pretty face and am not bulky, but I just like some clothes over others, I am not really trying to look like a girl.
I like suits and classic mens fashion, but on me it usually looks a bit more feminine I guess.
>>9537809
This is me btw

>> No.9537878

>>9537809
u should become a model. I've seen plenty of Russian girls who look like you, you'd fit right in.

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>>9537193
Sorry anon, I'm saving myself for Mio-chan ;_;

>>9537230
18, Southern USA.

I act pretty tomboyish for a girl. But when people assumed I was male, after a few minutes they'd ask my gender. My speech patterns are feminine, which I think is the giveaway.

I tend to be friends with guys more often. Can't figure out girls, retarded as it sounds. I can't remember ever flirting with someone in real life, so can't answer that last part.

>>9537390
Half the tumblr girls hop on the short hair bandwagon, but they're all 5'2" and whiney as fuck, so they never pass for andro :^)

>>9537410
Excuse the shit hair. Still learning.

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>>9537878
not sure if thats a compliment

>> No.9537996

>>9534642
>tfw strong jaw and shitty cheekbones
The number of penises I would suck to get even slightly noticeable cheekbones is too big for most scientific calculators.

>> No.9538100

>>9537895
how tall are you?

>> No.9538105

>>9538100
5'10"

>> No.9538150

>>9537809
i think its cus ur eyebrows that u look andro

>> No.9538192

>>9519354
I'm always here.

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>tfw no qt andro french no wave gf

too many adjectives

>> No.9538496

>>9538192
Seriously? Are you still obsessed w/ rick?

>> No.9539833

>>9538489
Patricians use describing verbs

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>>9539833
>Patricians
shut the fuck up

>pic related, it's most of /fa/ which includes you

>> No.9539885

>>9537895
I just wanted to say that u r a qt and you remind me of m00t

And I think you look better with straight hair. That's just me tho

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>>9518184
What do about dark circles like pic related?

>> No.9540072

>>9539835
spot the pleb

>> No.9540230

>>9537895
Straighten your hair and prepare for a bumpy ride

>> No.9540269

What can I do about a high hairline, like a 2 on the norwood thing?
I want to be androgynous but finding the right haircut feels impossible

>> No.9540272

>le gender queer

>> No.9540301

>>9519587
w2c this or similar coat?

>> No.9540329

>kids on /fa/ falling for this
time to take another few months off of this awful board

>> No.9540346

>>9540329
Good, nobody wants you here

>> No.9540393

>>9519031
Thx bra

>> No.9540422

>>9537895
U are cute

>> No.9540432

>>9519388
>hhhhnnnnnggggg
The sweater is really good. I dig you and your outit.

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>>9518098
great thread, solidifying what i'm already doing to perfect the look but what is the best way to deal with trimming body hair particulary of the arms and back? waxing is too crazy and nair is to inconsistent

also what to do about body acne? I tend to pluck stray hairs around the shoulders and shave the rest with a disposable razor after a hot shower and moisturize but i still break out in black heads and ingrown hairs and i just want to look as clean as possible my face is clear and i'm 20 years old

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did i do it right, dont mind shoes ):

>> No.9544421

>>9542794
I would suggest using a beard trimmer on the shortest setting, if you have a supportive SO get them to help you out. The body acne is hell and only persistent plucking does anything for me
>>9544286
I love it, I can't properly see your hair but I feeling it could be better/more suited to the style. but yeah the sweater, layering, jeans, body and face are on point

>> No.9544423

>>9538105
gggggu
too bad you don't live near me, I would ask you on a date or something, ahhaha
I see you on /soc/ all the time btw
>>9542794
waxing is crazy?
that sounds lazy
epilate, sugar or just shave it.
>>9544286
looks good

>>9544421
is there a way to achieve this style and look professional?

>> No.9544425 [DELETED] 

this is the worst thread on /fa/ and anyone seriously contributing should be banned permanently.

hell ill ban you for free, give me mod for a minute.

>> No.9544428

>>9544425
you are literally posting your ass in another thread.

>> No.9544434 [DELETED] 

>>9544428
as opposed to figuratively posting it? you sure i wasnt metaphorically posting it? what about metaphysically posting it? was it really a literal posting of the ass?

>> No.9544439

>>9544423
Thats a hard question because most professional woman's fashion is based on male fashion due to men having historically more involvement in the work force. To try and represent both female and male professional fashion at the same time is essentially still male fashion.

What I would suggest is leather boots (chelsea or something similarly pointy), closely tapered trousers and then an assortment of dark tone wool and cotton sweaters which fit nicely (oversized is not generally considered formal enough for the professional look)

>>9544425
PF you have such an obsession over the efficient man, you sound so thirsty. I'm just ignoring you because I'm playing hard to get ;)

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>>9544439
I forgot to mention a white collared ocb or dress shirt underneath if it still doesn't meet formality requirements

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>>9544439
>obsession over the efficient man
>the efficient man
>efficient
stay in school kids

>> No.9544532

I'm a male who wants to look androgynous, but I have big enough muscles to make it obvious I'm a guy. What should I do to lose them?

>> No.9544551

>>9544532
I mean other than eating at a deficit and doing cardio. Is there some other thing I should do to lose it quicker

>> No.9544739

>>9537814
I'm a faget who wants to attract other fagets

>> No.9544765

>androgyny
>implying it is not another way to incite people to become a fucking anorexic bitch

I have been bench pressing for years and I take care of my body, but to actually threaten my health for the sake of passing off for a woman? Shit, you guys are more stupid than what I thought at first.

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>>9544286
>>9544421
I tried

>> No.9545818

>>9521656
I don't think that's true, or in any event, I'm as feminine as I can manage, heteroflexible, and fairly reserved.

>> No.9547385

>>9544551
go vegetarian, smoke cigarettes

>> No.9547616

>>9544439
trousers tapered in what manner?
can you give me a specific example?

Yeah, like you said, it's hard to get what is essentially menswear to look androgynous.

in regards to oversize, how do I get it to fit correctly?
I have alot of things that are *too big* or fit poorly, but those qualities =/= oversize.

>> No.9547636

If you desire to pass off for a woman, yet you don't have the guts to transition using estrogen, why are you doing this shit? Face your own problems in regards to your own gender problems first and if you think you will be happy as a woman, then transition.

>> No.9547761

>>9547636
What? This isn't a gender or sexuality thing, just general aesthetics. I wouldn't even call it crossdressing since the purpose is to look androgynous, not 100% feminine or passable. It's not about being a woman, it's about looking similar to one for fashion.

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>>9544765
>fashion isn't an expression of the self or of creativity, the way i treat my body is somehow relevant to this discussion
go back to finger painting on /fit/ you neanderthal

>>9547636
maybe we don't want to be one or the other but toe the line and ask "what is gender?". it is an aesthetic and it is more a fashion style then trying to be a woman

also taking estrogen is somewhat dangerous and will permanently affect your body sending you through massive mood swings, emotional problems and make will you infertile. There are many reasons to not take hormones and some people will take this thread to lessen their own gender dysmorphia and thats fine.

>>9547616
Depending on the fabric a tailor can fix these issues. By fitting correctly I mean that the shoulder seam stops at the edge of your shoulder, the sleeves are not too long, the width of the torso is neither baggy nor tight and it finishes just below your belt but not past your crutch.

With the trousers I mean get them tapered to be like pic related.

again, in a professional setting its very hard to pull of androgynous clothing so you can really only take aspects of the aesthetic and apply them as best as you can. The more you dress in the andro aesthetic the more you will get an idea what can be carried over into your professional life. See what the woman in your work wear and try to draw inspiration from that.

>> No.9548007 [DELETED] 

>>9519052
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>> No.9548230

>>9534616
I'm gonna have to disagree Hitler there is an andro african faggot I see on /lgbt/ who can work it.

If you have very dark skin but it's orange or yellow or red in undertone seafoam, creamy yellows and sky blues do fantastically well.

>> No.9548826

>>9547636
i am transitioning actually, but I can't socially transition in full, so i just want to be androgynous.
also, i can't go to work in womens clothes.

>> No.9548846 [DELETED] 

>>9548826
>i am transitioning actually,
do you have a moment to discuss your mental illness?

what about the fact that you're a 50/50 chance of committing suicide?

>> No.9548848 [DELETED] 

>>9548846
kek
why arent you banned yet?

>> No.9549324

>>9547385

fuck that shit

i like meat and dont want cancer

>> No.9549468

>>9549324
if you want to lose muscle then cutting down on protein is necessary, eating predominately fruit and veg is the best way of avoiding carbs, complex sugars and protein while still getting a healthy nutritional balance. You should eat a little bit of meat (or nuts) to have enough protein for your body to function but not a lot.