/fa/ - Fashion

>>9368783

The denim.

>>9368783
Not enough to matter unless you're into denim.

Expensive jeans are just more unique, not so much higher quality.

>>9368783
Go check rawrdenim

>>9368790
this. quality tapers off at a point and theyre all about the same. You pay more for the unique qualities of the denim that you can only get from certain brands, as well as the cut

you do realize naked and famous is still not cheap denim either right?
they mainly just do interesting gimmicky shit, like raws that fade red instead of white, glow in the dark and reflective denim. their pricing is up their and their denim quality while not samurai iron heart etc, is still better then average

I buy most of my jeans from Guess when they go on sale. They seem fairly high quality while still being in a medium price range.

I also find Diesel and Armani X is pretty good.

>>9368824
>You pay more for the unique qualities of the denim
What unique qualities?

Is there a better alternative to buying N&F denim without having to deal with Tate+Yoko?

>>9368897
>cotton type
>cotton blending
>cotton sourcing
>dying techniques
>weaving technuques

>>9368931
Tate+Yoko is amateur hour. Wouldn't buy from again.

>>9368997
Do you have a site you'd recommend? Preferably Canadian.

>>9369009
Canadian too. I prefer blueowl

>>9368931
karmaloop is actually a pretty decent way to get n&f. all those corny camp themed menswear shops that sell like norse projects, candles and mustache combs always have nf and its always on sale at the end of the season. atrium nyc carries all the black and grey pairs and they go on sale usually too.

>>9368943
But isn't the end result and look more important?

If I got some 8oz N&Fs right now would they fade in time for summer?

>>9369068
Absolutely, 8oz is relatively light.

>>9369068

Its summer here in Australia and I've been wearing them a lot recently, i've worn them about... A month? Maybe a bit less, and fades are now coming out. I reckon in about 2-3 months they'll be nicely faded. but yeah, they bleed faster than normal raws, but I havent experienced them fading faster than normal raws. tho, indigo did start to come out after a few wears. But yeah, they fade relatively fast.

>>9369011
Oh, I've never seen this site before. Thanks.

>>9369106
>>9369084
Thanks. One more question, as a 6'1 guy, will N&F jeans be too long without hemming? The Unbranded ones I got are like half an inch long but looking at the measurements I can't really believe that the N&F ones are a full 2 and a half inches longer...

>>9369049
All those things contribute to the end result and look. It's all about personal preference.

the fit

I used to wear N&F before upgrading to 3sixteen and Rogue Territory

holy shit, so much more space for my dick

N&F HAS NO DICK SPACE.

what are some good, relatively thin jeans i could wear in the summer?

are 8 oz jeans the answer?

>>9369049
like he said, it only matters if you're into demin

>>9369011
>>9369134
can confirm blue owl is goat. Jay is the owner and will email you directly back with sizing questions or anything else if you need. I emailed him my thigh and inseam and waist measurements and he recommended my the perfect fitting pair of pants it was clutch.

their cuts are complete shit. no room for your balls and their taper is like .5 inches. spend a bit extra cop like rgt/3sixteen/apc/acne/gustin. gustin is cheaper and you can basically cop the rest for around the same price as nf on sale.

>>9368931

I copped a pair of skinnyguys from Gilt for like, $75-80 or something. But >>9369174 is spot on fuck N&F right up in my taint.

>>9369141
I'm 6'3", my N&Fs are double cuffed right now & the length is perfect. Depends on if you want mad stax

also, slightly related question: looking for a new pair of black skinny jeans after the crotch blew out on my Neuw. Really like the look of Acne Ace Cash, are they worth it or are there better things at that price?

>>9369388
Ok, gonna buy them as is and hem them if need be. Thanks.

>>9369068
Its summer here in Australia and I've been wearing them a lot recently, i've worn them about... A month? Maybe a bit less, and fades are now coming out. I reckon in about 2-3 months they'll be nicely faded. but yeah, they bleed faster than normal raws, but I havent experienced them fading faster than normal raws. tho, indigo did start to come out after a few wears. But yeah, they fade relatively fast.

>>9369049
It is to some people, but not to others.
I'll use the analogy of a car. Cars are mostly the same in that they hold people and are able to drive around. The quality varies depending on the parts, materials, design, and build. Gearheads will go nuts over the some tiny part of the car that is maybe interesting but does not change those original things that make it a car.

Denim is the same way. Jeans serve the purpose of covering your legs and being more durable than other types of trousers. Someone who's super into denim will appreciate the interesting slub on a pair of high end jeans and can recognize that the denim was made on a particular type of antique loom that is finicky and operates much slower than a new loom. There's value to some in these unique characteristics and imperfections. The people who make high end denim are passionate about what they do and it's evident in the unique ways in which they produce their products.

Does anyone else get their card declined by Tate and Yoko? I can't understand why this is happening; I've never had it declined online before. Maybe because it's a Visa Debit?

>>9369810
it's the credit card processor that's declining your card
the store isn't causing it

>>9368783
if you buy n&f, you can display a pic of tits on your ass for your friends and family and younger siblings to see

no other jeans give you this privilege

>>9369838
I just want some sikk fadez Rexy. Why do credit card people hate me and my fadez?

>>9369859
just buy it from a different site
problem solving 101

>>9369399
acne denim is so soft and stretchy IRL i love it
ppl who say it's bad are lying or fantasizing

I have a pair of lightweight weird guys and midweight left field greasers, and I prefer the left field greasers. I really don't understand low rise jeans; my boxers will show even if the jeans fit.

Once you hit a $100-150 theres diminishing returns in quality. A lot of it has to do with personal preference and how the pants and the material feels.

As far as quality goes, they all will last a while as long as you don't trash them.

Can anyone tell me how the "petit new standard" APCs fit? Are they similar to 511s in fit?

>>9370539
idk i don't wear levis but petit new standards have a pretty awesome fit. especially if ur over 6 foot

>>9369810

oh shit son are you me? I have a visa debit that got declined recently as well, even though I've made purchases with the card on tateandyok during the summer time

>>9369865
Not that easy. I can get a 15% discount from them, plus only they seem to have the jeans I want.

>>9370815
Well at least I'm not alone.

Is it true that you should never wash denim? How do you maintain it?

>>9370539

they are much skinner than the 511's, especially below the knee. also you will want to size down 1 or 2

>>9368783
dunno but n&f quality is nice
way ahead of nudie and acne

>>9371097
>they are much skinner than the 511's,
they stretch to about the same

>>9368783
Holy shit /fa/ is being sensible today. The difference between Naked and Famous & Samurai is negligible compared to the difference between Zara & Naked & Famous.

If you're really into that shit then that doesn't matter though, it becomes more of a hobby / collection than something you do so that the average person thinks you look good and I respect that.

Seconding Jay from blueowl is GOAT

>this sensible, helpful thread where people seem genuinely interested in sharing knowledge and experience

w-where am i

>>9372606
in a thread that i posted in

>>9373757
merely coincidence

Just bought a pair of Elephant 4s, what should I expect?

>>9368783
There's a lot of little details N&F don't have compared to the higher end brands. Most of their jeans don't have hidden rivets or raised belt loops and there's probably some other minor things. It's these details that denimheads appreciate and all the high end brands have. They don't necessarily make the quality inferior but they certainly don't have as much effort put into them. As far as the denim itself though they get all of it from Japan and sometimes from the same mills that make for the $300+ brands.

>>9374605
Pain

>>9374605
Minor discomfort leading into sick fades

>>9374613
>>9374614
Good thing I enjoy pain

>>9374605
crotch blowout

>>9374627
this

how are N&F stacked guys in terms of how skinny they are and well they stack
will these look good with NBs

>>9374605
how much did you cop them for?

>>9369049
what's important is subjective to the buyer. For a non enthusiast, probably the only thing that is important is how they fit.

>>9368783
Samurais are not only going to hold up a lot better than N&F, but they also have better construction and little details (if you're into that.)

The fabrics Samurai offers are much nicer as well. N&F has some cool ones, but most are gimmicky. Also, no matter what fit you get with N&F, they all tend to constrict the crotch area.

I've worn both and can safely say Samurais are 10x better. However, its up to you if you think its worth the price.

Pic related, my 710s with about 10 months of wear so far.

>>9375452
should i buy samurai or pbj

>>9375452
Those Samurais are looking nice. I always wanted a pair but i'm not sure I'm ready for that roomy straight fit yet.

Dat ass looks like it's about to blow tho

>>9375483

PBJ has more modern cuts compared to Samurai. You're pretty much stuck with a tight straight or a slim taper with Samurai. Both are pretty irregular and slubby but Samurai a bit more so. Check out SDA as well, they're about the same price point and qualityish.

>>9375170
About 240 after tax. Canadian

Iron Heart or nothing. You can get them $200-300 on Rakuten.

>>9375146
They're obviously designed for stacking, as the name implies. 'Skinny' is hard to describe; ou can find the exact measurements online.

>>9375593
thats too much.. i paid 170 after tax in november (so they were only a couple months out at the time). i know for a fact they were available in some b/m stores for 100-120 in the first couple weeks of jan, might still be available tbh. theyre nice tho

N&F feel like cardboard, do not buy.

>>9369368
yep blue owl is the shit

>>9375846
Yeah, I like Blue Owl. It is a shame their prices are so stiff on the imported brands, because denimio beats them by 100 bucks off on all of it.
Still, unbeatable customer service. I try to by there when prices are all the same. They helped a lot because I bought naked and famous elephants and worked with me to find a pair I liked. Settled on black power stretch. Fit is goat.

>>9369009
if you're on the east coast, Jeans Jeans Jeans in Montreal has a selection of N&F at a very good price.

Anyone like how the Skinnyguys fit?