/fa/ - Fashion

>>9279984
>draped monochrome
The sad thing is that most of the wannabe goofninjas don't even do that. They buy the most plain and unassuming ricky stuff + geos and think they suddenly are hot shit. Like that guy on your photo for instance. He looks dreadfully boring considering how much dosh he payed for that outfit.

>>9279998
which is only like a few hundred bucks because his geos are fake af

>>9279998
I agree
now that /fa/ has agreed goof ninja is too goofy many are still buying expensive rick and being less adventurous with it (pic related from most recent waywt)

>>9280000
that toebox

>>9280000
omg check my quads

>>9279998
look at those mad stax of his pants yooo
yeezus be proud

Also throwing raf sneakers into any generic fit is the possibly the worst token of this.

/fa/ knows hes a great designer but doesnt know why, and wants to show off their great taste. Buying raf for the sake of raf is the internet inspired equivilant of owning a LV monogram handbag

And to cluelessly buy clothing because its designer and approved by /fa/, ask /fa/ for inspo how to wear it and then claim you dress for yourself and not for others to see you is a little hard to believe

Does anyone actually disagree?

>>9280046
bump

spent $2000 -> look like shit.

>>9280003
LMAO smh someone save Toronto

>>9280095
I feel kinda sorry for those who dished out $1000s on black drapey designer stuff thinking "black is le timeless" and now in 2015 they look totally uninspired

although I must admit fits on /fa/ now are more interesting than 2013 to a lot of 2014 because /fa/ is in a state of confusion, with the once holy dark monochrome look being deemed unfashionable and norm core, palewave, health goth become mainstream too... a few posters are having to show a little but of originality

>>9280107
black -is- timeless

it just doesnt work when ur a baby faced flyover state teenager


there is a reason why most rick buyers are coincidentally 40 year old modern day salem witches

>>9280112
I agree to some extent, but although black itself is timeless, drapey black on black has become recently more popular than ever and is on the decline

you may not have wasted money on some nice black clothing, but when all your wardrobe is monochrome you're not going to be looking very fashionable through 2015 (til at least a couple years) at least until you buy some colour or do something original with form

>>9280118
very unfashionable** through

>>9280032
I don't think that bottom fit is particularly a bad fit in any way

Sometimes it's ok to look nondescript

There seems to be a lot of stigma on the board nowadays about how what defines minimal dress and what is just lazy and boring

I totally understand why people here want to achieve a unique look while also remaining within the boundaries of a less is more concept

As for people who try to dress down full Rick like the OP pic
You can't just go halfway and hope to posess style
It's named artisanal fashion for a reason

>>9280118
tbt drape on men looks like absolute trash like that heirloom fit that used to get posted here 24/7 it makes me sick how it really stuck to this stupid board like it was the best thing since sliced bread

wearing all black to be fashionable is incredibly passe

personally i love black and will continue to wear it but that's because i'm a gloomy piece of shit and i can't be bothered picking anything else out in the morning
although the one place i won't wear black is out in the country which is pretty self explanatory

but yeah whatever

>>9280140
>I don't think that bottom fit is particularly a bad fit in any way
although it may not incredibly bad, the rafs could have been definitely replaced by something that didnt look so out of place and something probably much cheaper

Wearing rafs like that is definately going halfway (if that) into rafs aesthetic. The raf sneakers are deliberately gaudy and kitch like an exaggerated embodiment of cheap sneaker aesthetic, if you dont know how to integrate this aesthetic into your outfit then why buy them? If you want nondescript then its one of the worst shoe choices you can make.

>>9280156
good looking or not, heres an example of a thoughtful use of rafs

the gaudy colours and kitsch graphics fit of the bottom half make a stark contrast to the top half of what looks more traditional, luxurious and 'tasteful' which makes another contrast to his flamboyant dyed white hair

Is anyone brave enough to admit theyve bought raf, rick, etc for the status and hoped people recognise them? I gotta admit the thought that someone on the street might recognise something designer im wearing is kinda nice

>>9280197
pic related, I get the feeling people buy those acne graphics in hope that people recognise them, for that... spectacular sensation

>>9280197
itd be cool to meet another cool ann or julius fan thru clothes but having some 16 year old asian kid point out ur rick or something would just be embarrassing for everyone involved

>>9280197
No I'm not a pathetic fag, sorry

>>9280202
Seeing you irl would just be embarrassing period

>>9280209
its easy to dismiss it as a stupid notion, but consider the fact that /fa/ obsesses about whos the better designer than what the designs are about

>>9280219
more* about whos

OP here, leaving thread now zzz

>>9279998
looking "boring" or "simple" isn't bad by itself, though. if you like a minimal outfit, then do that. the one big mistake you can make, is take fashion (and /fa/) too seriously. it's just cloth, buy what YOU want, if that's boring rick pieces and you really like that, then do it. now if that's really what the guy in the pic wants... prob not. he still has a lifetime to change ahead of him, and he likely will look back at this one day and think"damn i was shit". don't look down on people for their personal mistakes on a journey

>>9280112
i remember that pic with the ramones on that fit milf, definitely around 50 years old and it was the best rick fit of all times. rick is best on people who are truely not trying, but then again. so is most stuff. that seems to only come with age.

>>9280219
if those kids were 15 years older they wouldn't look so retarded

>>9279984
>wearing geos
>

an actually good thread on /fa/
wtf

>>9280202
Happened tonight when I was with my gf. Be was wearing an off-white hoodie and givenchy tysons...

>>9280112
you have it backwards

black is still only fashionable in flyover hick culturally irrelevant states that are always at least a year behind. I am objectively 100% correct and it is irrefutable sorry

>>9280250
>wanting to be a teenager and wear teen fashion
>not wanting to be based late 20s/early 30s,the objectively best age to be for fashion and lifestyle as a man

>>9280100
Lgbz be safe

>>9280100
>>9280434

>>9280219

Ayy lmao

>>9280003
>>9280100
>>9281091

>>9280107
>because /fa/ is in a state of confusion
Bullshit it's just that fa is less hiveminded about shit these days which means lot more variety and different styles which is good honestly.
There are still the people who are clearly dressed by the internet and seem to only get brands and designers other users have rave about a lot or are discussed tho

>>9281111
left and right best fits

"Never trust a clean pair of chucks"

>>9280150
>i'm a gloomy piece of shit
Honestly that's why I wore black, it fitted my mood and personality. Now a bunch of people wear it to seem 'fashionable'.
At times it makes me feel like I will be grouped with them, grouped with these types of posers.
It's a very unattractive thing to be aware of

"I had always hoped that my clothes would propose a primitive but disciplined elegance." - Rick Owens

>>9279984

lol how can a FASHION forum not have fashion sense. lol r u retarted

>>9282767
have you seen the WAYWT threads?

Agh, you seem to be forgetting that there are many considerations that go into picking an outfit

Since nobody is a catwalk model 24/7, wearing 100% runway looks is mostly out of the question. Plus, many posters happen to live outside of urban centers where standing out through your choice in clothing is more acceptable, so there's also the question of how much you wish to mark yourself. I see no problem with playing it safe

Plus, there's also the idea of personal appeal. You might like a pair of shoes from say, Lanvin or whatever, but the full look of the collection doesn't quite fit you, or seems a bit odd. What's the problem with just picking that one piece that spoke to you?

Then there are also cost considerations. Collection pieces have a tendency to be more expensive and less wearable than mainline pieces (usually), so most people if just getting into a brand's aesthetic might choose to pick, say, a Thom Browne traditional medium suit instead of picking the mismatched herringbone one (that happened to be 50% extra, and have a much more severe sillouette). Should someone be blamed for not diving headfirst (and pay for it) into a designer's view or are we allowed to experiment?

I get where the criticism comes from, this notion that there's a group of posers leeching off the credibility established by the fashion estabilishment by slyly buying their way inside what they think is a higher social status, but my view on the matter is that as long as they're buying legit items from the designer, even if they are the "boring" items or the played out ones, they're still supporting the designer's work. The entirety of the designer's work. Sure, their intentions might not be the ones a "true believer" might have, but hey, money is money, and doing runway shows is expensive

>>9282717
Jfc

It's funny how the lot of you are getting "in fashion" confused with "personal style."

Drapey black clothes will never be unfashionable or out of style. You just don't see very many people who can pull it off.

>>9280003
>/fa/ has agreed goof ninja is too goofy
It's funny how you base what's in fashion according to what anonymous posters on a mongolian claymation board say.

>>9280107
>I feel kinda sorry for those who dished out $1000s on black drapey designer stuff thinking "black is le timeless" and now in 2015 they look totally uninspired
Black is timeless. No matter how hard you try to force people to think the way you do.
Nice reddittier meme

>>9280150
>tbt drape on men looks like absolute trash
fatty detected

>>9280426
>black is still only fashionable in flyover hick culturally irrelevant states that are always at least a year behind. I am objectively 100% correct and it is irrefutable sorry

black is still fashionable in relevant states. I am 100% sorry
FTFY

>>9282506
I completely agree with your statement. /fa/ is starting to branch out into different aesthetics instead of bandwagoning them such as dadcore, gothninja, workwear ect. It's nice to see the different outfits people come up with in the WAYWT even though 98.9% of the outfits posted are complete shit.

>>9282900
>fatty detected

apex l e l

fashion victim who got tricked into wearing dresses detected

>>9282636
that one is gay, mine's better tho

i think there are too much WoW players on /fa/ who wanna dress like a black witch. they end up buying rick owen clothing just to look like something from WoW

>>9282932
>tricked into wearing dresses
hahaha

take a few seats and try again

>>9280200
kek

>>9280243
Underrated post

>>9283043
dont bother trying to come back lil bitch just puttin u in ur place since u clearly have no clue what ur talkin bout

mods ban these annoying week old 4chan fashionistas

I think it's funny that so many anon have such an issue with people who wear Rick and/or goof because they feel good about it. "Doesn't he know that isn't in style anymore? Black is on the decline. Oh I bet he discovered that on /fa/!". It's like damn, how petty you gotta be?

>>9280168
this is just your opinion

You are all a bunch of backwards faggots. You say to develope your own style and shit but when a wdywtd thread rolls around you all troll the dude that is doing his own thing. pick a side cunts

>>9283389
Most people can't afford it, so it's usually derived from sour grapes.

If you enjoy his clothes and wearing them, then just go for it, I'd rather be "behind" according to /fa/ rather than changing style every few months, from ____core to palewave, it's inconsistent and pathetic.

What keeps me going is the fact that there are people on /fa/ who are buying sk8 van hi's unironically.

>>9283428
it's not any more expensive than any other designer that people on here wear and buy all the time. so can you stop with the "you can't afford it anyway" nonsense.

>>9283442
Is this a joke.
Give me designer names please and we'll compare prices.

>>9283414
So fucking true.

>>9283455
do it yourself faggot. 5 seconds on google or ssense. plenty of designers in the same price range, or even more expensive.

>>9283496
No one wears it or talks about it here, especially in WAYWT

>>9283511
fair enough

>>9280168
I really like this
I like this so much

>spent all of your winter /fa/ money on boots and dresses

>>9283414
I honestly never browse any waywt threads since it's a mind numbing experience

>>9283414
>>9283456
I think you're right on point. There would be so much shit posting about this look here; >>9280168 if it was just a mirror selfie posted in the wayts threads. Then worship looks posted by theodore.

>>9282828
There's holes all over this logic. I understand what you're getting at but you're really just scratching the surface. Location plays an role as you've said, however this is a Fashion board, not a I'm going to look slightly more presentable than I usually do board. Reddit is more along those lines. Its not a diss to reddit, but their heritage/Americana tendencies are staying within social norms and boundaries. Fashion as a whole is supposed to challenge not only the wearer but the people viewing. Playing it "safe" isnt what fashion is about. Without anyone trying the boundaries this board is nothing more than a bunch of guys that dress in all black with a few designer pieces.
There should be time to test the waters with certain pieces but, with a hobby such as this unless you will negatively be affected monetarily you should go for something interesting. Trying to "fit in" isn't creative nor is it productive and it inhibits the ability to use the brain that we all have that is also a supercomputer to put together something fresh. Instead of the same rehashed black on black /w inoffensive CP's formula.

>>9283629
Then why don't I see your boundary pushing fits anywhere on this board? Who are you holding to this amazing standard of boundary pushing?

It's easy to throw stones, but are you in a position to do so? If you want high fashion or discussion of truly creative outfits, you will need to talk about environments where the usual constraints of going outside aren't present (i.e.: runway), since because of them most people WILL play it safe

>>9285459
Monetary concerns, my man. I'll get there don't worry. I've got plenty of time.
Not really throwing stones, but I am commenting on the OP's original post that is making the statement that /fa/ doesn't have much diversity. Right now there seems to be about 4 types of people.
1. Highschool poor boy, no job.
2. Guys with a little cash but scared to invest in non /fa/ trademark items because they're scared of what people on /fa/ will judge
3. Shitposters
4. People who actually contribute to the board/has done something substantial to the current state of /fa/ E.G Poet, user ect.
As of right now posters usually fall between the first two categories. With most "trips" falling into category 3.
There's a problem with this. Which is what OP is getting at.

>>9279984
you sound like a flamo

This thread seems like a "don't let the internet tell you how you should dress, let ME tell you how you should dress". It's just one big hypocritical ego stroke. You're telling people not to care about what other people think all while judging them based on what you think.
You're an idiot.

>>9280032
Wow you're stupid. The rafs look good in the picture below.

>>9282900
>m-muh timeless

*tips black bomber and blistered lambskin rick owens fedora*


guarantee that in a few years once it's full mainstream, you'll be cringing at the "leddit drapefag aesthetic" in threads on fa

>>9283389
same can be said with high end repro workwear

>>9285513
agree 100%

>>9283629
boundary pushing only applies when you're a kid.

once you've gotten out of college, good luck dressing like a gothic wizard combined with twinky ladybug combined with hood skateboarder or whatever is cool in seven years when you do finish college

>>9283629
...said the black man dressed in jeans and a sweater...

>>9286382
A lot of that is still based on your profession and knowing how to dress yourself as an adult professional while still being adventurous.

A lot of that comes from having a good understanding of basic fashion and what is expected of you. He never said you have to be raf rick all day to be creative.

That said, I only read the post you replied to so it could've been implied.

>>9285513
THIS IS THE MOST BRILLIANT POST ON ALL OF /FA/ PLEASE STICKY IT

>>9280003
TETSUOOOOO

>>9285485
Boy this post smells true.
Too bad genetic fallacy so I'm not listening.

>>9282663
be safe pham

>>9286380
hngg looks sick af

>>9286380

Haha look at this manlet

>>9285513
this so hard

>>9285485
Why do you think you are somehow above this. Your overall knowledge of things work is laughable even more so your apparent knowledge of fashion. You make these assumptions and try to act like some human looking in on a fishbowl scenario when in reality you are just the algae clinging to the walls(you are nothing special). You're trying to convince yourself your somehow a fabled #4 on your list when you are easily a 1 or 2. I seem to recall you posted in a palewave thread with some sick pale fit, you post the most watered down fits Ive seen in WAYWTs, and you even bought motherfucking KVA multilaces. You're the definition of monotony. You criticize fitting in and even seem to disown it but then ho right back to doing the exact thin you claim to hate. You are no better than anyone else here, I would personally say much worse. I hope this shows you how hypocritical and silly your argument is, because its seriously funny that you are writing shit like this when you look like this.

Either pray what you preach or just stop posting things like this.

>9280000
noice

>>9288118
Why do you think you are somehow above this. Your overall knowledge of things work is laughable even more so your apparent knowledge of fashion. You make these assumptions and try to act like some human looking in on a fishbowl scenario when in reality you are just the algae clinging to the walls(you are nothing special). You're trying to convince yourself your somehow a fabled #4 on your list when you are easily a 1 or 2. I seem to recall you posted in a techwear thread with some sick tech fit, you post the most watered down fits Ive seen in WAYWTs, and you even bought motherfucking Y3 Qasas. You're the definition of monotony. You criticize fitting in and even seem to disown it but then ho right back to doing the exact thin you claim to hate. You are no better than anyone else here, I would personally say much worse. I hope this shows you how hypocritical and silly your argument is, because its seriously funny that you are writing shit like this when you look like this.

Either pray what you preach or just stop posting things like this.

>>9288340
That was original.

>go on any creative board/thread on 4chan
>everyone copies everyone
>nothing original

No one can think for themselves it seems.

You are so based and enlightened you can critique every single /fa/ poster yet you don't post a fit of your own?
nah, fuck off m8

>>9288408
You don't have to be good at something yourself to criticize it.

>>9288412
but if you have no knowledge and can't show your knowledge then you're being a patronizing dick

>>9288408
>you can critique every single /fa/ poster
I don't think he did that
But he hit close to home with you apparently if you took this personally

>>9285513
where in the post does it say not to care what other people think? "think for yourself" is the main message I got

>>9286380
is is what aspire to achive, although putting te hood on is a bit to much

>>9288422
>is is what aspire to achive
english pls

>>9288118
I don't really have anything against you birthday but, why is it you seem to have a chip on your shoulder all the time. You act like someone shot your dog every time you're on the internet wanting to snap off at somebody. Unlike you I'm not an unlikable person that looks to start fights. I was just having a civil discussion with another anon here. If I remember correctly at one point you tried to snap off on Theo for some reason even though you aren't in any position to do so, nor have you done anything considerably worthwhile to the point of trying. I don't claim to already be at the point that talking about. Not even getting close, and neither are you but the difference between me and you is that I know my place. Calm down there partner.
Also try not to derail the thread with future posts.

>>9283428

Lol, you prob think you're fashionable

>>9288424
:( sorry im dyslexic

>>9280200
I really liked spectacular sensation and the other blue graphic though.

I never liked this black plain shit, its just boring imo

But anyway I've been coming to /fa since 2009 and basically agree with OP

>>9288400
Unlike all of your outfits.

>>9288431
no... im sorry :(

I don't look at WAYWT threads.
But from the rare runway type threads I find /fa/ tends to be quite level headed in their opinions.
Even in advice seeking threads the serious advice tends to be ok.
There will of course be easily led people who advise a uniform and noisy imbeciles who should really keep their mouths shut. But this is an open image board and no individual poster is perfect.

>>9288118
calm down there mate, it's just clothes

>>9288428
You're assuming way way to much here.
>You act like someone shot your dog every time you're on the internet
Not in the least I can recount very few times where I was actually hostile towards someone on the internet. You're confusing fuckin with someone and actually attacking them, I rarely actually do the latter.
> I'm not an unlikable person that looks to start fights
Where are you pulling this idea from that you are such a good person, I mean I should probably commend you for being so self confident but at this point its just annoying. I'm not unlikeable just cynical or whatever else you may want to describe me as. I antagonize people here because it starts discussions, some of the best discussions Ive ever seen come out of this place have been from shitposting that morphed into actual intellectual discussion. People wgo are always trying to be nice and stepping on eggshells to be nice to be people rarely, Ive found, have anything worthwhile to add to any talks or discussions because they are so afraid of offending someone. This is exactly what happened here. I don't have some personal vendetta with you I was just pointing out the hypocrisy in what you were aruin.
>civil discussion
Don't let this offend you too much but what you were writing was simply not write, bias, or incredibly uninformed. You were making more a fool of yourself then discussing anything.
>If I remember correctly at one point you tried to snap off on Theo for some reason
You don't remember correctly. I don't have anything against Theo, his fits are nice and very congruent which is rare to see. The only thing I could say against him is that his fits gather way to much attention for being fairly basic most of the time.
>you aren't in any position to do so
Why not? A, I just not allowed to speak to certain people certain ways?

>>9288469
Birthday you are the bastard child of /fa/

in every sense that someone could be

>>9279984
are those legit geos? they look kinda tacky and cheap on this photo

>>9288469
Trip this time
>nor have you done anything considerably worthwhile to the point of trying
OK. Not saying to much to this, just that I disagree and feel Ive contributed a good amount to this board certainly more than most people.Certainly infinitely more than you
>I don't claim to already be at the point that talking about
What?
>I know my place
Please could you tell me what my destined place is here? Its not that complicated bud its an image board for fashion there is no class system there are no places. Everyone has equal right to post whatever they want.
>Also try not to derail the thread with future posts.
how was my first post even close to derailing the thread? Just because you don't like what I wrote doesn't mean its derailing. Grow up, your going to have to realize eventually people will say thins that will not make you happy but are still true.

>>9288469
Fair enough. I can respect your opinion. However I disagree with your idea that forcing somebody into a "discussion" by antagonizing them, because even though it may spark an interesting debate it doesn't speak well on what kind of person you are. It will just make people dislike you. You'd probably do better finding other ways to discuss things rather than force it. I understand this is 4chan so being nice isn't always expected and its a generally harsh environment.
Anyway Birthday you should probably avoid calling out people. I admire your ambition, noted.
And I admit you have come a ways since you got here and I can respect your opinion. However we'll just chalk it down to being different types of people and leave it at that.

>>9288488
>contributed ≠ posted

you overestimate your opinion birthday

>>9288486
Those are not real by a long shot

>>9288486
They look kinda tacky and cheap always.

>>9288497
Maybe its just Narcissism nut I feel I have provided this board at the very least original opinions which are rare to see. I also feel I have mad many valuable posts that will benefit people(many of them are as anon tho). Again maybe I'm just full of myself but it feels I have done something for this board and all my time has not been a waste. This could easily just be a delusion to make myself think I have not wasted days on this stupid site.
>>9288466
Thanks dude :)

>>9288508
I like that it sounds like you're wanting to be honest with yourself, but to be blunt it seems like all your opinions about fashion have come from /fa/ and similar websites, rather than from books or irl. But hey, if youve enjoyed posting here at least your time hasnt been completely wasted

>>9288517
Ive never understood why it is so looked down upon to get your information about fashion from the internet? The fashion sites that are up right now hold more information than any book could plus the added benefit of peoples opinions. Im not disrehardin the power of books or actual contact with pieces or what have you those are just as important in my eyes but the internet holds so much information about fashion it would be impossible to read it all. I just think there should be less of a stigma on where you're information comes from as long as its true. Also as one last thin where do you think most people form their opinions? Because to me even the people who handle these pieces everyday or even can talk to the designers themselves come to the internet to seek information and for their opinions.

>>9288522
the internet also holds a lot of disinformation.

>as long as its true
that's the thing, on all of these sites there's so much wrong information i've given up correcting it. and then people take it as fact and repeat it ad infinitum until incorrect things become 'fact'

you're so young, it seeps from everything you say

>>9288486
they are fake

>>9288531
What the fuck do you want me to do then? MAny of the desihenrs I want to learn about have little to nothing in terms of books and from my current position and my positions in the foreseeable future there is no way to physically contact these pieces. So should I just hive up because that's not happening. Lastly please stop actin like an elitist piece of shit, there is no need.

>>9283613
This. waywt is a containment thread for high school kids from /b/ who irrationally hate reddit and won't accept that mfa and teenmfa are what they're really in need of. That or vapid attention whoring tripfags. The photos are usually incredibly shitty phone camera dirty mirror selfies and I'd argue that that's never going to change because of the nature of 4chan itself. Why go to the effort of taking a good picture when the thread will reach bump limit 2 hours after you post it never to be seen again?

OP stop judging /fa/ by what you see in waywt threads I guarantee 90% of the posters haven't been here longer than 3-6 months. of course they have no fashion sense, they have no real interest in fashion. Just enjoy the occasional good thread when it comes about and maybe even attempt to encourage it with your own contribution. I know there's nothing as tangible as waywt pics to attribute to the board's sense of fashion but they're just not really representative of a lot of the posters who either aren't novices and don't need advice on their fits or aren't people who feel the constant need for attention/validation.

>>9288522
This is seriously true. Books on fashion are almost never specific enough to this niche and only really provide general, introductory knowledge that can easily be found throughout the internet if you look hard enough. I just read the Raf Simons Retrospective in 032C and it was good, but no major revelations in any sense or insights beyond what was available to me through here or sz etc. I don't know how knowledge obtained from the internet has this connotation of disingenuousness, I guess it makes knowledge a less exclusive commodity but it doesn't make that knowledge any less credible. It's just ad hominem, really.

>>9288522
>Ive never understood why it is so looked down upon to get your information about fashion from the internet?
im not saying its necessarily bad, im just saying that theyre not original opinions in /fa/

>The fashion sites that are up right now hold more information than any book could plus the added benefit of peoples opinions. Im not disrehardin the power of books or actual contact with pieces or what have you those are just as important in my eyes but the internet holds so much information about fashion it would be impossible to read it all. I just think there should be less of a stigma on where you're information comes from as long as its true. Also as one last thin where do you think most people form their opinions? Because to me even the people who handle these pieces everyday or even can talk to the designers themselves come to the internet to seek information and for their opinions.
omg youve got the wrong idea

sure there is a vast quantity of information on fashion on the web but whats more important is the quality, books will go in depth and give you an understanding deeper than RAF GOOD BECAUSE HE GOOD DESIGNER. And the fact that there are a lot of uneducated opinions on the web doesnt help.
>. I just think there should be less of a stigma on where you're information comes from as long as its true.
fashion is mostly not about facts, im not saying that you need to have a detailed knowledge of fashion history, but a more thoughtful understanding (if youre interested)

>Also as one last thin where do you think most people form their opinions? Because to me even the people who handle these pieces everyday or even can talk to the designers themselves come to the internet to seek information and for their opinions.
consider that most great designers were designing before the advent internet

also the valuable theories about fashion that are on the internet are definitely not found on /fa/, if thats what youre referring to when it comes to the web

>>9280032
the shoes on the bottom are 1000% less flashy than the ones above though. Don't understand what your point is?

>>9288559
also to gain a deeper understanding of fashion through books doesnt mean just fashion books, art theory I find correlates a lot, also certain books on identity, consumerism, design, visual communication, etc etc would apply

>>9283414
this nigga gets it

>>9288556
what you people dont seem to get is that theres a lot more history to fashion than just reading about the designers from 1950-today, and even then theres a lot more to the artistic context than im sure most people in this board would even be aware of

its quite a bit like philosophy: every philosophy draws from their priors, and the only way to truly understand a modern philosopher nowadays is to go back to the source and read in a linear fashion until today, if you wish to be taken seriously

most talk about fashion on the internet provides no such context, and no such history, which is why historical books on fashion are seen as better sources of information, with the added benefit of fact-checking and a peer-edit process

i guess the big problem of fashion as an art form compared to say, paintings or sculptures or other visual arts is the lack of publicly acknowledged experts on the subject, like highly regarded curators who actually spent years studying the clothes which they talk about

I don't mind rick
I just want to see people do it, fully, or don't do it at all.
the whole style is pronounced in a provocative way, yet it's inception is usually 'subtle this subtle that' because people want to 'feel' stylish more than they care to actually be that provoking thing, that adjective, that lifestyle that epitomizes art and clothing.

tbh, I wear the most minimal boring shit ever, I can respect high fashion, I just can't respect the half-assers and tryhards unlayering some rick into what they interpret into 'minimalist rick' when it's just 'budget + afraid of going full out rick'

>>9288634
I don't think it is about wearing a particular designer fully: this simply means Rick Owens has monopolised your wardrobe. It is about adopting a meaningful style.

You are completely right though, "minimalism + Rick" is meaningless. It basically says "I hold none of the values of minimalism, I simply want to solicit the attention of similarly rich affluent students without being rejected"

>>9285513
What a shit post and completely typical of what someone on /fa/ would say.

You completely ignore what OP has reasoned and base your argument on who OP is and what brands of clothes he says you should or should not dress in.

This is entirely OP's point to begin with.

>>9280032
I still insist that raf shoe in shoes are terrible up close

He almost got them perf but irl the large seam that "joins" the two "shoes" ruins it

Are those fake ricks i see?

>>9288559
>>9288564
Hmm you actally bring up some really interesting points I hadn't thought of before. I still stand by that learning about designers and their work/history is not most effective through books, I mean I own fourth sex and redux and both of them don't hold to much information that isn't already well known or available. However you seem to be less interested in that and more the theory/philosophy behind fashion. I didn't really think it was so vital to the understanding of fashion but I'm coming to realize you are more right than I had previously wanted to admit. So I guess I'll try to start reading up on some of the stuff you're talking about. Any recs if you don't mind me asking?

Are those fake ricks i see?

>>9279984

How it's called that type of ''jacket''?

>>9290476
click and drag the picture onto your desktop, post pic in fuccboi general next thnx bye bye

Black fishtail parka

>>9288531
Dude, come on. I'm sure that if both of you were to be set side by side a 'normal' person, both of you would look better than said 'normal' person. And I'm sure both of you know a lot more about fashion than the average folk. But these arguments tend to not be about that

>Poisoning the wells

>Ad Hominem

I of course didn't read that whole chain of text that you guys made so I'm sure I'm missing a lot. But I don't need to in order to come to this conclusion.


You're full of shit.


Stop Anon

>>9286380
Tulip