/fa/ - Fashion

what is this about
vid too long but interest after dentist visit

sum it up m8

Daily reminder that your face is ruined because of your environment

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY3bIMRKil8 [Embed]

cliffs:
-Humans very recently have been eating a soft low volume diet, which means less use of jaw muscles and weaker jaw muscles
-Humans very recently have been weaned off breastfeeding early, so have developed improper swallowing patterns and tongue positions
-Humans very recently have had a rise in allergies, which has led to mouth-breathing and lowered tongue position
-Human bones are very malleable, force from facial muscles and the tongue alter the shape of the bones
-All of these factors combined have led to poor form and function of the face:
-- ugly, downward growth
-- a lack of horizontal growth
-- short, receding chins
-- narrow palates
-- crowded, poorly aligned teeth
-- recessed, elongated midfaces with poor cheekbones
-- less room for the tongue, leading to snoring, sleep apnoea, general breathing problems
-- etc.
The best way to try to fix these problems if you are already affected is to ensure that the teeth are together, the lips are together and the tongue is on the roof of the mouth, as well as chewing a lot of tough foods.

"Teeth together" is for ancient barbarians who eat with their hands.
Modern teeth are shaped the way they are because we use forks and spoons.

>>9019482
pic related, a superior modern patrician

tfw want to chew cum all day but just got braces off

>>9019500
that's from mouth breathing ya dingus

>>9019460
about proper mouth posture and how it makes you look bette,r even if you're "done growing"

its really life changing, and thats not an exaggeration, watch it if you have the time

>>9019519
w/e faglord

it happens because the tongue is lowered and the jaw is lowered ie the teeth aren't together

>>9019465
>>9019460

here, this anon did it quite well>>9019477


watch the vid though when you have time, totally worth it

>>9019482
right, proper jaws and bites are for barbarians! lets have weak patrician jaws and long faces because its what modern humans do :^)

the vid explains why nordics are so good looking btw, its because of their tough "barbarian" like diets

I love how this smashes "m-muh genetics" fags into the fucking ground. Been with the correct mouth posture for probably half a year now. Fuck mouthbreather subhumans.
>mfw that guy's godly jaw gets rid of any doubt

>>9019545
exactly

when the last time you saw a fuckign brit with a jaw likes that guys?

brits are closely related to danes yet danes have way nicer jaws on average, because of their rough diets with in turn leads to proper mouth posture

what results have you seen so far?

>>9019269
legit

>>9019548
Well I didn't take any pictures so I don't know for sure, I suppose my jawline is more defined now. But one thing is certain if I don't put my teeth together my face looks disgusting. When my teeth are together however I actually look decent.

>>9019555
trips confirm

>mouthbreathers
when will they learn

>>9019564
It's honestly such a disgusting habit.

>>9019573
right? not only does it fuck up your entire face, but it makes you look like an actual retard

glad I fixed my younger brother up before it was too late

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4Y8RXEEY-4
>2014
>not megadosing androgens for masseter growth

>have proper "mouth posture" my entire life
>never breathe through mouth
>still have shit profile
thanks genes

>>9019643
gross

>>9019655
has your tongue been on the roof of your mouth? thats the most important part, your maxilla needs to be supported by your tongue or it grows downwards and fucks everything up

>>9019548
Robert Pattinson

>>9019643
it looks like their a dick on his face

>>9019661
to the best of my memory, yes. is the only solution cosmetic surgery?

what are some foods that would improve my facial musculature?

>>9019661
>maxilla needs to be supported by your tongue or it grows downwards and fucks everything up
why don't they teach this in school ffs

>My treatment window is 7 to 9 years old

kek it's already too late for you slackjawed fuccbois

>>9019726
our facial bones are highly malleable so it's never too late to start. we have to live with our faces for the rest of our lives afterall

>>9019726
he says himself he has seen results in himself and in older patients, when he talks about 7-9 yea olds he means treating them with this instead of braces

if you're older, this won't replace braces to fix your bite, but it will positively effect facial growth

>>9019701
weird, that shouldn't happen if you did all that

anyway, cole mohr has a profile like that so embrace it (he has it way worse actually)

>>9019504
Gross dude

mind blown... i was never aware that this was a thing. i adopted a good oral posture (before i knew what that was) when i was 18

>always been very self-conscious
>~1 year ago became quite self-conscious of my profile
>neck/chin look better with the tongue pressed on the top of my mouth
>jaw looks better with teeth shut
>~1 year later facial aesthetics have noticeably improved

thanks, insecurity

>>9019726
tacitly wrong. he specifically addresses this 'it's too late' point at 45 minutes

where exactly should I put my tongue? The tip touches my bottom teeth when my mouth is closed

damn you /fa/ for making me paranoid as fuck about this

so if I have a weak chin but no breathing or teeth alignment problems, is it safe to assume it's just genetics and not an issue with oral posture?

I'm assuming most people on /fa/ are 20+ so this shit is basically useless. Your face is pretty much matured by then. You might get a bit of definition, but not much.

>>9019831
you should press it to the roof of your mouth to counteract the forces of your jaw pulling your face down. this helps prevent the gradual vertical growth of the face which produces ugliness

that's pretty much it i think. someone correct me if im wrong

>>9019527
Yeah, because his fucking mouth is open all the time. Not because he doesn't have his teeth clinched together.

>>9019849
not true >>9019787

your face will continue to change and degenerate no matter how old you are. we clearly don't have the exact same face when we're 20, 25, 30, 40... the doctor himself said that his face has improved in the past 10 years from following these practices

>>9019849
he gave examples of people who got better looking with age

i believe it's possible, gonna try it for a while

i actually tried to lower my jaw position over the last 4 years by keeping my mouth slightly open at all times. i'm not handsome, so i'll give this a shot

>>9019871
>i actually tried to lower my jaw position over the last 4 years by keeping my mouth slightly open at all times
do not do this under any circumstances

this is the opposite of what the video recommends

>>9019895
i think anon meant that he now realises his mistake in doing that

>tfw /fa/ makes you self-conscious as fuck

>>9019269

This entire thread explains why my jaw is so fucking prominent. It's ridiculous how my jaw juts out

I had a bad habit of clenching my teeth during stressful moments, like during a test, etc.

Guess it sorta paid off. Now I stop clenching because that shit will fuck your teeth up.

this is what a man looks like, ladies

>>9020004
>duck face to increase facial aesthetics

Nice job using teenage girl tactics

>>9019999
nice quads
post pics? consider yourself lucky, I'd kill for a better jaw/chin

pigfuck jaw inspo dump?

>>9020020

Nice!

>>9020020
(gasp) hes so hot!(ur crush to me lol)

>>9020027
white girl here, you're pretty much perfect. much better than anything i've seen on this site. i wouldn't lower myself to be with a asian guy or a bald guy. lets skype sometime? i know you have a gf but hey who knows what could happen ;)

>>9020027
how does he do it?

>>9020027
white boy here, you're pretty much perfect. much better than anything i've seen on this site. i wouldn't lower myself to be with a asian guy or a bald guy. lets skype sometime? i know you have a gf but hey who knows what could happen ;)

>>9020033
what about the superior genetics of a black man?

>>9020037
wow trunks
youve been sucking pigfucks cock a lot recently
trying to get some raf on the cheap?

>>9020037
ew yuck dont copy my post plz :(
bald and uve been with a asian chick, that just ruins you for me, sadly. no offence or anything, i just know as a pretty white girl i can afford to be choosy with my guys and my future
:)

>>9020033
hey i'd love that, hmu on skype im free =)

>>9020037
>>9020043
Leave her alone you ugly creep. Don't you know how to treat a lady? Fuck, I swear some of you are doomed to be forever alone (the jpeg).

>>9020042
nah man, i do it for free

>>9019857
>his fucking mouth is open all the time
>Not because he doesn't have his teeth clinched together.
are you retarded?
your mouth being fully closed means the teeth are touching

>>9019701
Nothing wrong with your jaw

>>9020088
I definitely have a weak chin though (it's even more apparent in life rather than a still image)
after watching some of the video (currently 25 mins in) I seem to have the same head placement of nasal point alignment with weak chin, resulting in the sloping skull and larger nose look.

>tfw you can't even exist properly

>>9020033
>>9020043
Hi! Few things to start off with =] 1. Yes I replied to you because you're a femanon, 'tis an awesome thing to see! 2. I'm Brian. 3. Don't be intimidated, but I'm not a stereotypical namefag. If anything, I'll be the one in the facial aesthetics thread =D.

>>9020383
Liking the little twist on this.

8/10 for effort

This is the way I normally rest my mouth.

Are you telling me that you subhumans relax with your teeth apart, jaw open and tongue at the bottom?

Fucking plebs.

>>9019477

Wow.. I'm a prime example of this.. I have narrow palates, no horizontal growth and mostly downward growth..

I had a lot of "teeth"/jaw problems when I was young. I have arthritis in my jaw.. which they only found out a year ago. I've used braces and my teeth are still not aligned properly and my jaw and muscles hurts everyday.

I'm also a mouthbreather, but I'm conciously trying to breathe properly.. when I was younger I could hardly open my mouth like 2cm.

Am I scewed or is this fixable with surgery and exercise? A part of my jawjoint is like "sawed" off halfway too, which I think contributes to the problem.

my patrician jaw line

>>9020035
you look like a spic

>have braces to get teeth fixed (pretty bad crowding)
>get them off
>wore the retainer for the initial 6 months
>stopped wearing it
>since then have adopted snacking on raw vegetables and chewing each bite ~20 times
>started using correct mouth posture because my fucked up teeth weren't in the way
>2 years after ditching the retainer my teeth haven't moved at all

Also the same concepts apply to the other parts of your body. This is why I'm so grossed out by shitty posture. Do yoga, do deep squats, deadlifts, should press and dead-hang pullups. It'll straighten out your skeleton and give you conscious use of muscle groups that you weren't utilizing before. It makes your skeleton much more upright and your joints much more mobile. You'll also become more naturally coordinated and balanced.

>>9020020
Those tumors on your eyebrows
Sik ridge

>>9020792
the orthodontist cemented a metal retainer onto my front metal teeth and those are the teeth that have moved the most in my mouth, even though i never wore my other retainer. i don't get it

hopefully they remove the metal bar soon it's been like 5 years

>>9020464

Fuck son. Sounds like it may be a pretty rigorous effort to fix, but I wouldn't say it's impossible. Keep at it.

>>9020806

That blows. I had the metal springs in the side of my mouth that pushed my jaw forward and they were miserable, but they did seem to help. I'd say just concentrate on making a habit of having good mouth posture and properly aligning your teeth. I never really knew why my teeth didn't move after ditching the retainer until after this video. Although I conscious efforts on improving my mouth posture because it made my jawline much more pronounced.

>>9020824
>although I made*

>>9020805
yeh its a monster

>lips together

easy

>tongue on the roof of your mouth

not too bad

>teeth together

how? it's really sore when walking/in a car and how should they be together, top and bottom teeth completely aligned?

Some people do not have teeth that are meant to be perfectly aligned when closed
for example with my teeth the bottom ones would go behind the top ones when closed properly, and likewise if I aligned the teeth so that they were equal my face looks stupid as shit.
I know where my teeth naturally sit, and they aren't closed.

Watched the whole thing and I've already changed how my face rests. Thanks OP. You the real MVO

>>9019269
Would this help in fixing my underbite? Also am I supposed to feel soreness/tension in my mouth with this?

>>9020995
I'm sure that tension is just your mouth not being used to being in that position.

>>9019643
lol what the fuck man

back in barbarian days this guy would probably be one of the champions or some shit

>>9020033
L O N D O N
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D
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>>9019477
>>9019477
>>9019477
Do it will really improve your face (structure wise) if you keep your teeth and lips together and push your tongue against the roof?

>>9021098
pas the age of 11? no, not really.
video even says you can't modify bone growth if your bones aren't growing anymore.

but it might help stop your face from further collapsing as you get older.
he claims its helped his face somewhat over the past 10 years, but he didn't show a "before" picture for comparison.

>>9021108
I just realized i said "do it will", anyway, thanks.
I don't have a supreme jawline nor a very bad one, and very straight teeth. So I'm happy about that, I was very curious though.

What does that guy means with tongue pushing the roof of the mouth ?
Isn't his tongue tired at some point ? Doing it for a while makes mine tired

>>9019269
>Teeth together, lips together, tongue on the roof of your mouth
That just comes naturally to me
wat do

>>9021227
You get used to it eventually, that's how it's supppsed to be

By resting my teeth together does it mean I should clench them together lightly.

>teeth together
Does this mean front teeth together or molars? Cus there is a difference

>>9022068
NEVER clench. Just nearly hover over but slightly press down. As he said, balance the pushing of the tongue against the roof with your teeth.

>>9019269
How do you put your teeth together without clenching?

I actually look worse with my mouth closed, my lips do this weird thing

>>9022396
ha same

sooo when youre putting teeth together are we talking about one on top of the other?? or do you want to do it naturally so the bottom row is behind the top?

>>9022518
>>9022324
>>9022152
>>9022068
Read this article.

http://facefocused.com/proporpos.html

>>9022536
I read it, mine definitely falls naturally behind the top teeth and my top teeth cover most of my small if i press down. Makes sense. Probably too late to correct it but again still confused if the proper way to correct is do exactly the same thing but with tongue pressing into the roof, or if i put top teeth directly on top of bottom

>>9022594
i have the same question

>>9022594
My bad, that is not the article, I couldn't find it; I read it a while ago and it listed the instructions, Ill try to explain.

>first try to pronounce the letter N, the tongue is behind front top teeth at this stage.
>close lips and teeth making sure that they all touch together (I don't know the answer to your question about the position of the top teeth in relation to bottom, my top teeth cover most of my small too, I just let it be if I push it more forward to make them touch better I look bad)
>lastly swallow saliva and stick your whole tongue to the roof of your mouth

I used to love chewing plastic caps, got a strong chin/jaw now

>>9022621
aight so just keep it natural , i got you. Thanks.

I guess my last question is what part of the roof of the mouth, do you feel your tongue curling to really get it to the center or just a bit so it passes the top of the teeth?

>tfw trying to breath through nose
>perpetually blocked nose like breathing through a straw
>going dizzy in minutes

so if you got a mild overbite shutting your teeth straight-on helps?

Does chewing gum help jawlines?

>>9022747
Yes, find the toughest gum you can though

>>9022758
NONE TOUGHER

>>9022758
guess I'll have to chew this wrigley shit 4 pieces at a time until I go back to the store

>>9019477
> my mum did that shit right, good genetics square strong jaw
> tfw I'm female. that stuff isn't a bonus

Would recommend for everyone to watch. Very informing.

wow good thread.

needless to say, it's bait like nofap, but you all will fall for it

>>9019269
where on the roof of your mouth should you put your tongue? Is it on the part just above where your teeth are or further up on the softer part?

>>9021227
i did it for a whole day today and whilst you do kind of have to consciously *put* it in position, by the end of the day it's a lot more intuitive and natural

kind of like learning to play an instrument. after a while you get used to it

>>9023347
tucked above your teeth, don't curl your tongue

what if the damage is done? can it be fixed?

>>9019269
If anyone doesn't want to watch the whole thing, skip to 45:00

>>9023355
Are you supposed to actively PUSH your tongue along the roof of your mouth so that its kind of tiring? Or just place it there?

>>9019714
Beef jerky

>>9023367
45:00

>>9023372
Use your head - no one expects you to push against the top of your mouth 24/7

>>9022772
This shit is more

>>9023386
thanks mang

>>9019519
mouth breathing = bad oral posture

from his fb pic

guys.. look at this.

mine seems to be in the 'ideal' range but i have narrow face, crooked teeth and weak chin. wat.

http://www.orthotropics-na.org/public/department37.cfm

http://www.facefocused.com/findertool.pdf

>>9023372
well you shouldn't need to be pushing it so hard for it to feel like you're pushing. it should feel like it is naturally -sitting- there, especially after doing it for a few days you'll get more used to it. the main aim is to stop your lower jaw pulling your face down

>>9019477
This post is retarded. Do you understand how evolution works?

>>9023563
how is that post wrong? recent changes in our environment have influenced our biophysiology through things like epigenetics, it's not all fixed by natural selection alone

Now I know why my mom keep stressing me out on putting my teeth together and the tongue thing when I was a kid. Good thing I followed her advice.

Too bad for my sister, she have an underbite now.

>>9023627
in reverse for my mother. she was good looking in her younger years. Now 51, her chin has really sank in because she's a heavy snorer.

>>9019532
>good looking
>falling victim to Western standards of beauty
Oh, I weep for you.

>>9022747
>>9022758
>>9022772

Actually excessive gumchewing is not good for you, it can cause TMJ and stuff. I used to do it and now my jaw is fucked.

>>9023841

but the sexxy guy recommended it in the vid.

So there's no point in getting braces and instead you should just do this? what

>>9024362
if you're 7-9 then yes

>>9024378
So I'm 19, should I get braces? I have an underbite and crowding.

>>9024383
see
>>9023501

depends actually. is it really a damage or genetics like >>9019701

but as you can see here >>9023481
the last pic is someone who is 20 and got results

>>9023421
Where can you buy this? I have an organic hippy-type store near me, do you think they'd stock it?

>>9023746
>Western standards of beauty
more like show business standards of beauty

>free thinker

That's just another term for pseudoscientist.

>questions why we need mechanical intervention

There's one guy who questions it, and thousands of dentist who don't. Let's believe to lone lunatic!

>teeth together

It's commonly accepted in dentistry that normal resting position for jaw is mouth closed, teeth few millimeters seperate.

>>9024404
Here are my teeth.

Should I be biting with my front teeth and bottom teeth together or just my molars/backteeth

>>9024431
Also, sorry they look dirty, I just drank coffee.

>>9023563
>evolution has deformed our jaws and teeth in a matter of >1000 years
never go full retard

>>9023746
Europeans are objectively the most beautiful

even all "attractive" non whites have white features

>>9023501
I just measured mine 48mm and I'm a female.
>mfw

>>9024953
ey baby u wan sum fuk?

>>9024509
>even all "attractive" non whites have white features
Only people who belong to races that descend from proto-indo-european ancestors.
Northern Indians and Pakistani are actually ashamed of their kinsmen who look more like dark-haired Europeans, thanks to Central Asian and Arabian muslim aesthetic influences.

>>9024509
>even all "attractive" non whites have white features
like... ?
what if all "attractive" white have black features. you point invalid, it is like the egg and the chicken question.

>>9019269
What's wrong with my teeth?

>>9025111
this

big lips and smaller noses (length wise) are desirable for whites but are black features

each race has something beautiful about them

>>9021108
But anon, your facial features change the most between the ages of 13 - 25.

>>9025088
Why do indian bollywood actors always have more caucasian features than the rest of the population then? Some even have light eyes.

>>9025736
Wide noses are not desirable on men or women. And slightly large lips are nice on women but not as big as black people's lips.

>>9019500
He has huge underbite and is fat.

>>9025766
he has an overbite and it was caused by mouth breathing

>>9025754
>north india and paskistan
>bollywood
u wot m8

Have any of you guys tried anything for blocked nasal passages?

>>9023746
top fucking kek

>Doing this all my life
>Spent large amount of child hood eating raw, hard pasta because I was an idiot
>mfw gr8 jaw

Told you mom, I told you that raw spaghetti was top tier

>>9019548
>tfw dane
>tfw su isnt enough to cop stuff

My only problem with this is if someone like myself has worn down teeth from night grinding as a child. Putting your teeth together makes you look retarded.

>>9024406
It's hard to get outside Europe. Shit would be expensive to import. Try ebay though, make sure it's the greek stuff.

so which part of my teth shouldbe together in resting position, the back of my teeth or the front? i have an overbite, so i have to choose.

>>9025821
posture. blowing your nose. smelling salts. fresh air. toughing it out.

Might as well ask this here. Does anyone else suffer from TMJ? Any remedies or advice to coping with it better and living a better life? I already avoid chewing gum now.

>>9020420
/upvoted :3

>>9026235
what does this salt thing do? sounds illegal

I'm 27 so am I fucked? I have relatively straight teeth and my dentist never suggested braces. Crowding on my lower incisors and one canine is rotated. Also I've noticed my back molars (18, 31 and 2,15) are offset wider than my main arch. I naturally have my teeth together, tongue on roof of mouth and I breath out my nose mostly (I think) but my chin and jaw is weak as fuck. Long face. No cheek bones. Fat cheeks. I feel super self conscious now. Thanks guys. ;_;

>>9023841
I chewed gum for a few years in highschool and now I can't open my mouth all the way because of my TMJ. Braces didn't chance anything besides my teeth are straighter now. Shit sucks

>>9026226
front

>>9026572
you can get that fixed


see a specialist

>>9022701
I know this feeling. Is my septum deviated? What is it???

>>9026935
I'm not fucking filip

Perfectly in line teeth master race reporting in

>>9026893
ur not alone brother

>>9022701
Nigga see an ENT

>actual recent chiropractic x-ray of my neck and skull
>worse than video
>oh fuck

>>9026893
sucks mang

>>9020027
>>9020027
>>9020027
>>9020027
>tfw you will never see this probably Filipina beauty
Oh well.

>>9026981
ha

>>9027027
For sure brother

>>9019477

>tfw strong jaw

My teeth are pretty straight and I've never had braces.

>look good from the front but profile is shitty

>>9020047
>>9020062
m'lady

>>9026981
I've seen so many grils with jawlines like this.
It's a serious deal-breaker.

>>9019269
honestly can't believe the amount of people in this thread who breath through their mouth lmao

>>9027490

its what happens when nobody is teaching kids not to do it

great find

bump

>>9027540

Has nothing to do with being told to or not. If you have nasal congestion and can't get enough air from nose breathing you're going to breathe through your mouth no matter what.

>>9027913
Yeah, but a great deal of nasal congestion is due to facial distortion
good facial posture can open your airways

>>9026226
>>9026589
Same here. I have an overbite and I have to choose between having my front teeth together or my molars.

I don't think this will work for me

>>9024383
yes

>>9026302
I got TMJ. Stop chewing gum and massage your facial/jaw muscles. Alternatively, try acupuncture. Maybe try heatpacks when massaging, it makes it easier. Or do it in a hot bath/shower. It's easier to massage warm muscles. Remember to do this regularly. I try to do this every other day.

Do stretching exercises and other facial exercises to get your muscles stronger and more active.

Read up on gelatin supplements, it might help with the joint. I've never tried it, but it has supposedly helped a lot of people with joint problems, and other stuff.

Also make sure you get enough omega 3 and other essential vitamins, and generally try to maintain a healthy diet.

Do what you can to relieve yourself from all kinds of stress in your life, as stress can make it worse and tighten your muscles, give you more headaches, grind teeth and so forth.

>>9019852

what if you don't clench your teeth? I've always rested my tongue on the top of my mouth and kept my lips together, but I don't actually clench my teeth

>teeth together when mouth is closed
enjoy your cracked teeth
>chewing tough foods all the time
enjoy your TMJ

>>9028470
You're not supposed to clench your teeth. Just have them slightly touching eachother

>>9026893
well you can still fix it to an extent
just listen to the video

>>9028517
enjoy your weak jaw

Hows my profile? Does my face seem too long or does my nose seem very big? I've always kept my tongue on the roof of my mouth and my lips together, but my teeth don't always touch

>>9028654
looks like it developed fairly well

>>9025834
I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE
I would just grab a ton of raw spaghetti from the box and feed back to my molars. Totally worth getting in trouble a few times for there being no spaghetti in the house on pasta night

>>9028939
my brother ate raw spaghetti too

wtf is wrong with you people

Very interesting. I'm no mouth breather, I can keep my lips together just fine and my teeth are well aligned, but I can't quite keep both my jaws and my front teeth aligned : I have to either bite on the front teeth (and even then it's not well aligned) or the jaws...not sure which one to go with.

I think the jaws would be a lot safer, because the front teeth aren't actually well aligned when I bite on them, meaning any sort of shock could damage them I think.

As far as the tongue, maybe I should ask directly, but should I keep it right behind the front teeth (at the front of the palate, where you can feel those irregularities) or more in the middle or at the back ?

Anyways thanks for sharing, this is really interesting and the fact that he's not trying to sell you anything makes it all the more believable.

Is doing this going to help at all if I've already finished puberty?

>>9029423
read the thread or at least watch from 45:00 on

I can't breath through my nose, there's always snot blocking it

>>9029549
get that fixed then

>>9029269
>not sure which one to go with.

You go with the jaws. Your front teeth aren't supposed to be resting on top of each other, but rather over each other like scissor blades (slight overbite).

>>9019966
horrible, right? the smallest flaw has such a great impact after being here for a while

What would you do if your jaw is unsymmetrical? Like, I can place my jaw into a symmetrical position but then my teeth are completely unaligned.

My throat/nose/sinuses always feels congested and when I recorded myself talking I sound nasally af. How do I go about fixing this?

>>9029981
see an allergist or ENT doctor

>>9029989
I'll check those places out, cheers m8

>>9029695
thanks, that's what I thought but you make a good point anyway.

>>9029940
Do your best to keep the jaws closed (but lightly) or pretty closer to each other. A lot of people don't have perfect alignment, it's not the end of the world. The tongue thing seems important though.

He could consider making a kickstarter but these gums are pretty hard already, chew a couple at once and it will tire your whole face out.
>completely tasteless
>no sugar, nor sweetener
>flavored also avaible
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IolRVAxq180

Here a comment, lmao:
Falım sakızlar çok sert, insanın dolgusunu söküp atacak çiğnenmiyor ve çeneyi yoruyor.
Falım gums are really hard, they'll pull your fillings out they're that unchewable and it's tiring for your jaw muscles.

is chewing gum good for your jaw

>>9030103
He mentions it at the end for the second time after someone asked and mentions that they are but he wished they were harder, even considered producing some but it was too expecive.

These are hard already >>9030097

>>9026981
reminds me of making characters in oblivion that looked good from the front only to see that they look completely fucked from the side lol

>cant stop thinking about this thread and i constantly keep checking if my tongue is on the roof, making sure teeth are together

i have a decent jaw too but fuck

I understand keeping your teeth pressed together can help, but how does keeping your tongue up against the roof of your mouth help?

>>9030179
He doesn't recommend to clench, but chewing.
Keeping your tongue up against the roof of your mouth helps because complex muscle mechanisms.
I'll watch it again.

>>9030179
helps support bottom jaw/maxilla

>>9030179
it supports your maxilla, which otherwise would grow downwards

>>9030179

I've been doing it for as long as I can remember. Helps me keep my mouth from hanging open. My jaw is strong as fuck, too.

Guys if you want to get rid of mouth breathing/overbite/weak lips get this thing called FaceFormer.
My orthodontist gave it to me when i was a teenager because i always pushed with my tongue against my teeth when swallowing. I still use it every week. This and exercising really fixed my posture and made me more self-aware of how such little correlations really impact your physicality/appearance.

>>9030232
what are weak lips

>>9019269
Wait wait wait...You mean people in murrica/UK mostly breathe through their mouth and not nose?

I live in a shitty Europe country, but here everyone breathes through their nose, including when they sleep.

And another question, how can you even NOT keep your lips/teeth/tongue the way the guy explained? That's fucking natural.

It's beyond my amazement that world got so retarded that they need something so basic and natural explained to them...Jesus, no wonder so many men I see in pics from US/UK look like pussies/have absolute baby faces.

Are my teeth disgusting?

>>9030276
yes

>>9030276

holy fuck, get that shit fixed bruh

>>9030235
Not sure what the correct word is in english.. Maybe 'bulging'?
Couldnt find a really good picture but basically it means if you close your lips your upper/under lip are disproportional to each other (upper lip should be smaller than under lip) and part of your lip that is visible in a more fleshy color should be in fact not there if you close your mouth. These exercise help to 'bend' them back in the correct Form.. Kinda hard to explain.. Sorry.

>>9021025
hahah

>>9030276
holy christ

So I've been holding the teeth together, tongue on mouth roof for a few hours now and it feels exhausting. My jaw feels tired and my teeth seem to clatter every now and then.

This normal?

Anyone else getting something similar?

>>9030329
My lips look asymmetrical like this when I close my mouth normally, I have an overbite though.

When I put my tongue in the roof of my mouth and try to press all my teeth together (I have to tilt my lower jaw forward for this) my lips look normal, but I look like I'm clenching too hard.

That whole video tells the truth, I wish I could have surgery to bring out my neglected aesthetics.

>>9019269
He mentions proper swallowing technique a few times but doesn't actually say how to do it?
Anyone what proper swallowing technique is?

>>9030538
Is English your first language? I've read that some people rest their tongues on the bottom of their mouth depending on their language just because it's a bit easier on them

Anyway, mine sits this way naturally. If I have a stuffy nose, I have a hard time keeping my mouth closed though. My bottom teeth sit right behind the front, but I don't know if it differs depending on the individual.

Maybe your jaws are just that weak? You'll have to try and be more conscious of it then, I guess. You don't have to keep your teeth held together, just resting and barely touching.

>>9019269

I don't fucking wanna watch this whole video, but I already constantly have my tongue on the roof of my mouth with my mouth closed and teeth together. I always have. I'm not particularly good looking though but I have pretty good cheekbones

>>9030538
Stop being genetically inferior scum.

wow keeping my tongue on the roof just got rid of the bulge that looked like a small double chin, thanks op

someone please answer >>9030544

>>9029005
What's wrong with us doesn't matter, what matters is our jaws

>>9031247
have no idea man

just ask the internet

"medically proper way to swallow"

are something like that and weed through the gay porn and you might find an answer

>>9030543
I had an overbite as well (not huge but noticable) and i never had surgery.. I had a dental brace that was not fixed and afterwards the FaceFormer i was talking about.. You can still make major improvements by just using the latter because it forces you to have that proper posture with your tongue/lips/teeth!

>>9025330
I think might be suffering from Felis catus.

>>9019269

So what about mouth breathing when you run? I use both my mouth and nose to breath whenever I go running. Do I need to learn only to use my nose?

>>9031548
Yeah.
I read somewhere that only breathing through your nose will increase your stamina, so I started doing it and I could actually run farther

>>9030126
FUCKING THISSSSSS!!!!!

>are you me?

When I have my tongue on the roof of my mouth I produce a shitload of spit, anyone else?

>>9031692

>>9031706
wow, that was quick.

are you upset in any way or form?

>>9019269
jesus, this is the entire registered user base from S.H. in one thread....

>>9031698
I think it's because of the muscle contraction.
Spit is good for your oral flora, it desolves all the food particles that might be stuck between the teeth.

How are the jaws supposed to look when resting? My front teeth touch but the teeth on the sides of my mouth don't touch. When I clench the teeth on the sides together my top row of my teeth is infront of the lower row and they don't touch at the tips.

>>9031890
only the front is supposed to touch m8 you're fine

What do I do if my tongue sticks out between my teeth at night?

>>9031890
your front teeth are not supposed to touch

>>9031723
>S.H
sherman hemsley? angel dust?

>>9031993
I think he meant touching the other part of the mouth, not teeth touching teeth

>>9028654
forehead does the slope thing he described

does the slope thing apply to females? I thought female skulls naturally tended to be more sloped than mens skulls. I actually used to use this as another way to help tell if someone is male or female

>>9031706

nice meme pigfuck! xD :3

>>9031982
oh thank god
I guess it's just genetics, my jaw isn't very defined but it looks ok.
I should lose some body fat, I'm 12% body fat because I bulked a bit.

can i get fair opinion on my jaw line?

>>9032008
??

>>9032353
shit

>>9032353

>tfw nothing matters and it's already too late

>>9032353
Your jawline is fine, it's just that your chin's a little bit weak, no sane person would ever notice. Brad Pitt also has a weak chin but a strong jaw line, people get them both confused.

I'm gonna be honest, this whole things seems like broscience quackery.

has he done any peer reviewed studies to prove this as right?

>>9032451

>>9024434
your mouth looks like fucking shit. garbo genetix

>>9032469
thanks dude
1485

>tfw I've basically been mouth breathing my entire life cause my nose is fucked and I can't breathe through it properly
>have really weak chin cause of that I guess?

;_;
maybe i just have shit genes tho
or both

>>9032755
you can do sugery
one for fixing your nose
and then for fixing you jaw
friend of mine about doing it

>>9032774
Yeah, when I was waaay younger they told me I might need to get surgery for my nose but they said it might not even help or even make it worse, so I was like nah fuck that. Then again this was about 8 years ago or even more.

Gonna ask my doctor about this soon.

God bless surgery.

>>9032451
shave your face pubes and work out

>>9032787
I think that's just the lighting??
Doesn't look like he has facial hair to me.

Also does "pressing your tongue to the roof of your mouth" mean you have to do it with your entire tongue? or just the end of it

im so fukin worried im doing it wrong

>>9032809
entire tongue probably

>>9032451
the right is much, much better.
pretty impressive

my mouth sort of looks like this am i fucked? also one of my bottom canine is in front of the rest

>>9033502
Just go visit a fucking dentist why the fuck are you asking a bunch of 16-year-old autists who know nothing about orthodontics this shit?

>>9033515
because im just as autistic, but seriously i've been told i don't need braces multiple times but my tooth is in front of the rest

>>9032809
just research proper oral posture on google, or ask a dentist

>>9033517
>but my tooth is in front of the rest
What?
Seriously, just ask a dentist, if you don't like what he says go to another and be sure your teeth are all right, but don't ask for this kind of advice here, for your own good.

>>9032809
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmZZfO0hXLo

>>9033560
I see, thanks dude.

>>9031994
Something Hawful

ive been doing this for awhile. i noticed i had the typical "mouth breather" chin so i actively push my jaw forward (so my teeth meet). it's not excessive enough to be noticeable when im doing it, but i think it adds about .5 inch to my jawline or something.

>>9032809
he has the worst kind of facial hair
the jawline facial pubes
means he trimmed his beard to try to produce the effect of a jawline

>>9032495
No, and if you watch the video he literally states that his views are contrary to those of the entire field of modern orthodontics (nearly vaebatim).

His thesis makes no fucking sense. "It's mostly the foods we chew, not genetics, which have lead to these modern orthodontics problems", but this falls apart under inspection. For example Brits and Italians both have a similar number of tough foods in their diets, but Italians have much stronger jaws and chins. The American diet is similar to the British one, and the two people are genetically close, so why are certain slackjawed facial types more common in Britain? The main difference is that braces and early orthodontic care is more prevalent in the States, as well as Canada.

Also, take a look at China. Certain rural areas are infamous for having the worst fucking teeth in the world, yet the people all have strong jaws and high as fuck cheekbones. Korea is an even weirder case- they have a similar diet (regarding culinary toughness) to Japan, yet the common Korean facial type is an overly strong jaw (one of the reasons facial sculpting is so prevalent there) with an underbite and overly prominent chin and huge cheekbones (the very opposite of what Mew states the effects of improper swallowing/ tongue positioning effects should be). In Japan, on the other hand, you'll notice more weak chins and overbites.

tldr it's pseudoscience
/autism

>>9034427
His thesis is actually "mouth posture affects facial structure."

The diets of peoples affects the strength of the jaw muscles and leads to changes in mouth posture which leads to facial structure changes

Most of his best examples however were of individuals who had muscle weaknesses in their jaws which lead to facial changes. His Stephen Hawking and those two people with unilateral muscle weakness in particular

I've now become extremely self conscious and started to keep my teeth touching. My jaw hurts like a mother fucker now

>>9034427
you're a stupid person
not in defense of the retard in the OP vid
just letting you know you're a stupid person

I should probably be wearing my retainers more often now....

Teeth together, like your top front teeth on top of your bottom ones?

That's... not correct. You're supposed to have an overbite of a few millimeters.

>>9035393
he just means light bite down you fucking idiot

>>9026981

>tfw thats happening for me too

fuck.... seems like i ain't the only one, but the jew nose is killing me so much. i hate my nose

>>9019269
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPZBVmzAO1M

>>9035515
so if i say nigga all the time or fantasize about slurping cocks my jaw will get stronger? is that why gay niggers are more alpha?

This needs to be reposted every single day.

Can you give me cliffs of Mike Mews' routine? What to do w/o the tongue posture? Like what excercise so strengthen the jaw?

>>9023841

Had a form of TJM when I was youunger, my jaw would feel like it would lock up a little bit, and I had to release it by getting it to click. Kind of like how your finger joint somtimes do when you apply pressure. Got really annoying.

>>9035651
not really any exercise, just chew hard food and gum

also keep your lips closed, your teeth closed and your tongue like this >>9035515

This explains a lot

Used to be an ugly motherfucker round graduation, then the stress of life hit me and I start to grind my teeth uncontrollably. For some reason I got better looking in 3 years and am the same weight.

>>9019500
>mfw I almost look like that, except I also have acne

What kind of 'rough' foods should we be eating?

>>9022701
same, what is this shit

>>9036978
Cock, and semen to sooth the pain.

>>9036978
Nuts, meat, vegetables and some fruits are kind of tough to chew.

>>9037010
that doesn't seem very rough
>>9037017
that does

>>9036966
XD

>>9019477
tfw i only have crowded and poorly aligned teeth, otherwise being beautiful
tfw i realised my natural position is teeth together or like max 2 mm apart, lips together and tongue just behind my upper front teeth, against the roof

good enough gonna start working on this tho thanks mate
not that i have that many problems but still

I got my wisdom teeth removed when I was 15. I'm 18 now but my jaw seems to curl in towards my neck. Is there any way to fix this???

For as long as I remember I've breathed through my nose, mouth closed, tongue on roof of mouth etc but I'm guessing there was a time when I didn't.

>>9038382
also on lower jaw one side of teeth are more far forward than the other side. can barely floss the lower front teeth because my teeth are so close together (I had braces and they're straight, just too close)

>>9038382
see an orthotropist and ask them to make space and do implants

mike mew talked about it once

>>9034911
Hawking had aged decades by then, terrible example.

>>9038382
You can email Mike about it. His email is in the end of the video

>>9038382
probobly when you were sleeping