/fa/ - Fashion

So I live in a city in south america where it's really warm and sunny 8 months a year, I ride my bike everyday to college/work and I almost always get to my destinations sweaty with my clothes feeling and looking awful, it's uncomfortable as fuck. What kind of clothing would you guys recommend for someone like me? I'm clueless specially regarding shorts and t-shirts that are functional in this weather and don't look bad.

>>8880775
you must move to the north pole and exclusively wear winter tech gear.

>>8880775
Can't do techwear in summer, you're better off with linen shirts and shorts

>>8880775
look for clothes that are good for wicking such as merino wool tshirts, which are supposed to not stink when you've been sweating due to the anti-bacterial properties and are good for wicking away sweat, they're used a lot by those who go backpacking as well as athletes.

contrary to what others are saying, techwear is for all seasons and isn't just about black on black on black hardshells.
then again i'm just a bunch of text so what do i know.

Any idea where to cop this bag?

>>8881119
visvim e-cat ballistic messenger bag from around maybe 2008
source: http://supertalk superfuture com/index.php?/topic/140517-waywt-destroyed-my-life-2012/page-48?&

>>8881119

looks like it's by visvim.

>>8881174
>>8881175
cheers nigs

The commuter jeans are wide enough at the foot to hit the chain and get grease stains

>>8881316
pinroll then faggot.

>>8881316
a lesson in trying before you buy, had you put them on before purchasing them you would have seen that even the slimfit jeans are too loose without "sik bendz"
also another reason as to why the cargos are superior

>>8880737
and I thought rick was a jew, do people actually fall for these prices

>>8880973
w2c

>>8881012
>can't do techwear in the summer
techwear isn't just rain jackets. super breathable and moisture wicking textiles are part of techwear too.

>>8881772
acronym j1a-s or e-j1a but it retailed for 1200 and is only available on a small used market

>>8881766
those prices aren't in usd... acronym gore tex jackets are 1-1.3k and the pants are 5-7 hundred

>w2c a good technwearish belt

>>8881798
bagjack

https://www.bagjackshop.com/en/apparel/

>>8881762
Shoes don't work at all. Just looks like you spent a lot of money without having any idea what you were doing. Smh if only I had the money you kiddos had.

>>8881798
http://www.body-armour-protection.co.uk/Lightweight-Combat-Belt-cobra-buckle.html

wored by errolson in last acronym jutsu

>>8881808
>wored

I must be tired

>>8881766
They're HKD, not USD, pay attention racist scum.

>>8880775
Outlier is usually perfect time for this but right now they're doing winter stiff so you're kind of sol. It sounds to me though that you want clothing based around anatomy. Most high-end tech companies are really good at this especially Outlier and ACR. also check out Rapha and other higher tier cycling companies because they will of course have clothes exactly what your looking for.

>>8881794
>>8881818
post your tech fits

>>8881846
ok
>>8881762

>>8881850
this is b8 right

>>8881864
i dont get it? are you suggesting that isn't me?

>>8881762
shoez completely out of place lmfao

>>8880737
Why would you want to cosplay the spy kids films

>>8881877
I think what he was trying to get at was that the fit is shit.

>>8881908
>jealous plebs

>>8881897
Wasn't funny the first time and if it's even possible it is even less funny now.

>>8881908
>>8881888
>>8881864
post ur sick tech fits

>>8881917
>muh techninja
>it makes fun of the thing im autistic about so therefore not funny

>>8881932
tbh i really loved spy kids when i was a kid

>>8881921
Wahhh my 10/10 sick to have fit is getting shit on. Time to damage control
>post a f-fit
Fuck theyre still making fun of me
>b-but Errolson said this would make me a ninja. Why have you forsaken me sempai

>>8881944
did you get wet in the rain earlier? lol

>>8881193
fuck where can I cop these in a size 12, I've looked fucking everywhere and it's like they don't even exist.

>>8882054
iktf
some fucking manlet keeps putting his size 6s up for sale. the run must have been so limited, there's barely any evidence they even existed.

>>8882084
Thanks for the heads up!

>>8881844
>>8881080
thank you!

is it out of place to wear a hardshell with shorts?

also, can recommend any decent shorts? would prefer cheap, and of decent quality to bike with - do not necessarily care for padding.

anyone have any inspo with shorts? i'm p much clueless when it comes to tech botts

>>8882430

>>8882470
the boot on the left goes inside the boot on the right. but i think it would be sick by itself

>>8882477
just domping some stuff i have, which is not much

>>8882430
Rapha, Outlier, Black Diamond(most climbing brands for that matter), And Wander(will need a proxy). This is the only picture I have on my phone that I saved that has a shell and shorts.

Since I want to keep this thread alive but don't want to dump inspo.

Who put out tour favorite line this season?
>Mine is veilance they kept the same minimal refined look I like so much about them, but still had it looking modern and sleek with little features that you wouldn't notice unless you were paying attention.
>pic not related but still pertinent to the thread

>>8882756
what bag is that?

>>8882756
i really liked the glitch sweater from sisp

>>8882796
Acronym. 3rdArm is their bag branch.

http://www.acrnm.com/collections/3rdarm

>>8882796
It says it right there
>>8882805
Loved it too. Really want to cop one but I don't know where I'm going to get the money for it. Have you seen the hand painted tortoise jackets?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7anL_mDuCM

>>8882822
>>8882816
i know it's acronym jesus, i mean which model? it looks huge.

>>8882756
Could you list a link to vids of some of the lines that have shown new stuff?

>>8882822
wow that's awesome craftsmanship

>>8882822
p fucking sick process and great craftsmanship for sure, but i dont like the end product
just me, though

>>8880775
Have you ever heard of outlier you fucking jabroni

anyone have any experience with the arc'teryx Beta AR jacket? considering copping

Why did Reigning Champ give up on techwear?

>>8882054
>>8882084
why not just get these. quality is way better

http://store.nike.com/us/en_us/pd/special-field-boot/pid-438375/pgid-771642

>>8883366
I prefer the look of the luna soles. I don't particularly need a thick boot tread anyway so would like something a lighter.

>>8881174
messenger bags look so dorky

>>8881888
check out acronyms look books. the shoes are always out of place

>>8882477
Are these still produced ?

>>8881193
Do you guys think some one short could get away with wearing these? The souls look really nice but I've got big feet for a small guy idk.. Boots fucking scare the shit out of me..

>>8880775
youneed dryfit clothing

pls dump what u have guys

>>8883288
All of the gore pro arcteryx shells are great. Might want to consider the beta lt too - I think the fit is a bit better and you can get them on sale.

>>8884810

>>8884814

>>8884823

>>8884827

>>8884830

>>8884834

>>8884837

>>8884841

>>8884842

>>8884845

>>8884847

>>8884834
>>8884841
>>8884842
>>8884847
Absolutely not techwear even though it looks techy

>>8884842
not really techwear at all.

>>8884854
It's inspo you twat not fucking "this is what techwear looks like"

>>8881762
was disappointed when i saw the shoes

not only do they look out of place, but if you were to use them for real- they're literally shit quality for functionality

>>8884860

>>8884867

>>8884871

>>8884876

>>8884881

can anyone recommend me a good crewneck thing that will wick sweat when I'm biking? If I could wear it as a base layer or over a TShirt that'd be great, and I'd wear it under a light coat mostly. Thumbholes too, since I hate shit rolling up my arms.

Thanks /fa/, bumping with inspo

>>8884885

>>8884876
>>8884881
So
You can post whatever trash you want to a thread as long as it's "inspo"? It doesn't actually have fuck all to do with the thread subject?
Pic realted, inspo

>>8884893
The silhouette on the first picture is perfect for techwear. The second pic is fucking Aitor Throup so if you don't know who that is I'm just going to assume you know nothing.

>>8884886
if it would help, looking for something like pic related

>>8884910

>>8884934

stop spamming these shitty pictures pls

>>8884910
>The silhouette on the first picture is perfect for techwear
Yeah looks mad fucking practical m8

>>8884954
this

>>8884956
Whatever you say champ

>>8884954
And here you are contributing nothing what exactly is so switch about the pictures?

>>8884854
>>8884859
Come the fuck on. Why are any of those "not techwear" and what makes you think you need to police teh bounds of a floating Internet buzzword?

>>8884970
Meant shitty not switch

>>8884971
none of the fabrics used are remotely techy. Sorry to say, Birthday, but you're literally wearing a wrinkled anorak and & jersey cotton sweatpants. Terrible example of "techwear" and terrible fit too.

>>8884987
How can you tell fabric from a fucking picture that is no where close enough to tell. Unless it's a knit or something even then you can't really tell.
>nice meme btw

>>8884994
Why don't you tell me, birthday?

>>8884998
Not Birthday
>nice meme tho

>>8884830
fit's dope af, where 2 cop that jacket and shoes?

>>8885008
acronym and nike trainerrendors

>>8885008
>Acronym SS-CP2
>Nile ACG Trianerendors

>>8884956
I *think* that Undercover garment is Gore-Tex, and yes, it is practical. It keeps the rain out and the loose fit at the bottom ensure breathability, and it has pretty good storage options.

It's called a cagoule; Patagonia used to make them and reissued one in Gore-Tex a few years ago. It's been surpassed for technical climbing, because we have more breathable fabrics now that don't need a giant vent at the bottom, but it's still functional and great for urban use.

Seriously, pipe the fuck down and thinking "techwear" or anything is your little tight, streamlined black Schoeller club. And get some imagination, get - inspired, yeah. Feel something affirmative you can extend and grow with.

>>8884886
Ibex, Icebreaker, Smartwool, LL Bean, and Klattermusen usually have them. Patagonia does it slightly differently, and has both synthetics and wool: little elastic loops that just hook the thumb. If you're looking for something with a cut more like a normal t-shirt, Duluth Trading of all people makes a loose cut wool baselayer with them.

It seems like it's more common in fashion garments that change every season, tbh.

>>8885008
what he said
>>8885014

>>8884971
>Why are any of those "not techwear"

Because they don't use any technical fabrics. It's not hard.

>>8884934
id on everything ?

>>8885045
How the fuck can you know this? Your eyes much be much better than mine.

>>8885072
mayb e knos wt each piece is n thr4 th fabrix

>>8885008
found em both, acronym and nike acg trainerendor, both proving hard to find. anyone know where to cop the acg trainerendors?

>>8885072
ID on the sick techwear sweatpants with shoelace drawstring and the basic ass carhartt anorak w/ plastic buttons and fake leather detailing. It's not hard to point out when the image is 3200 x 2400

>>8885080
literally everywhere, look for the re-release under the nike sb branding

>>8885080
store.nike.com/gb/en_gb/pd/trainerendor-shoe/pid-803550/pgid-10259045
www.urbanindustry.co.uk/departments/all-shoes/nike-sb-trainerendor-shoes-black.html
http://www.karmaloop.co.uk/commodity/138487-nike-sb-trainerendor

>>8884987
>none of the fabrics used are remotely techy.

Like the other guys says, you can't really tell. It's Carhartt, so it's *probably* cotton, but who gives a shit? It still looks like it's somewhat weather resistant, which is ludicrously overrated as a function around here. You'll be just fine in any urban area, and there's other kinds of functions.

There's this double error that goes on with this, first that "techwear" is some real and single thing, and second there's this macho tendency you see a lot to reduce technicality down to toughness, and to locate the toughness not in the person but in the garment or fabric. Fuck that. The interesting, worthwhile thing about these clothes is the way they allow us to enter the world *more*, not to be a Gore-Tex Pro callus against it. The way they sync up with the aesthetic and tonal headings of human striving right now. Or at least the kind of human strivings I, and I think/hope you, admire.

Finally,


"The technology is not the fabric. The fabric is not the technology." - Errolson Hugh

>terrible fit too

FWIW I like it.

I'm not going to pull "post fit" because that's dumb, but how do you think most people who're drawn to "techwear" construct fits? With the scrap resources they have to go out into the world and do things, hustle up cash to afford more (or, their first) cotton Acronym clothes. Who gives a shit if he's in cotton jersey sweatpants?

I used to be more bothered by how lots of tech companies would keep using cotton, etc. when even hemp is better, let alone synthetics. I still thought the clothes were awesome, but I was like, "but they could be more awesome!"

And in some ways they would be, but not in ones that mattered (or could matter, because capitalism, which we're all stuck in) to their makers. I could get on board, miss the experience of those clothes, or make my own or have them custom made. I eventually plan to do the latter one, but I don't have the time or spare cash for R&D right now.

>>8885087
>>8885102
yeah but none with the dope-ass acg tongue.
they're still pretty sweet
thanks anyway, /fa/

>>8885045
And, also, getting off the Carhartt anorak that's probably pure cotton but could also be 60/40 cloth or something,

>>8884834
>>8884841
>>8884847
>>8884876

Where are you getting the idea there aren't technical fabrics in these images? Top dude is literally draped in them.

>>8885126
the ACGs are deadstock so you'll have to buy used from ebay or w/e

>>8885084
OK since you're being so much of a twat I just want to prove you wrong. The anorak is pretty water resistant it's not going to keep you perfectly dry in the rain but it will for a little bit. It was the perfect weight and fabric for the day I wore it. The pants are a heavy Chinos that I pin rolled not fucking sweatpants you cunt. Again not overtly "techwear" but perfect for the situation which is a very important part of techwear imo(wearing the right fabric/material for the situation you're in). So yeah it may not be "muh techninj" but it still displays many characteristics of what techwear actually is.

>>8885141
still a terrible fit lmao. even if u do write an essay about what mediocre clothes you were wearing to prove someone wrong, literally no one is on your side because of the way you conduct yourself.

>>8885149
Awesome I like that fit, I like the picture, that day was fucking amazing. I don't care what some little whiny bitch on the Internet has to say about it. If you really want to spite me go and downboat it on sufu please you're just making me to sad here with your mean words :((((

>>8885141
i'm with you on this one, especially about the idea that techwear has to be some black on black ninja flex

>>8885141
An anorak that's merely water resistant is not tech. That's just a normal fabric that people have been making casual jackets with since forever. I'm so sick of tech being polluted by shit with DWR and a lot of pockets instead of any actual progress in clothing technology.

>>8885224
Did you read his post? He literally said it's not techwear, but it has aspects of it still.

>>8885224
Well, one, you're really talking about textile technology.

Two, Progress in what direction? And why?

Three, what do you think about pic related?

It seems the diehard advocates of techwear think beyond pure "functionality," and look also for "technical" fabrics - e.g. gore-tex - that seem to be on the edge of science.

>>8885258
I don't know what this post is saying

>>8885258
Here is what I mean.

Both yoga bags here are functional, and serve the purpose.

The purist techwearists would consider left techwear because 1) functional BECAUSE OF 2) the fabric (e.g. it's rain resistant).

in this sense, techwear seeks functionality in terms of external conditions - e.g. weather - and not purely in terms of functionality in terms of purpose (e.g. carrying a yoga bag from place a to b)

>>8885268
fuck forgot pic

>>8885031
thank you sir

>>8885268
You're kind of right. But techwear takes into consideration: weather resistance, patterns especially regarding how they work with the body, functionality, and aesthetic. I like the one on the right better to be honest, but yeah if you take all those characteristics into consideration the left bag is not only more functional but also yes more techy.

>>8885287
so the right one would probably be best because it would allow the sweat from the towel mat to evaporate better than the one on the left.

but since i bike to yoga, the left would obvs be best during rainy days.

but it doesn't rain every day.

left probably works best with the body. the right feels a bit droopy. this isn't good esp if biking.

but, yeah

>>8885258
>>8885268
>>8885273

I'm about as diehard techwear as it gets, but I don't insist on hard and fast criteria for discussing an amorphous subject and like functionality and quality over fabric gimmicks.

Which isn't to say I don't like advanced fabrics! But they're part of a total package. When I'm evaluating clothes, I try to pay attention to the total experience of wearing them. That's *everything*, from how my hand enters a pocket, to how the shoulder articulates, to how much wind the fabric lets through, to how the way it looks makes my self feel. What I'm looking for will be different in different situations.

That's what clothes are always about, for me, on my body, but I think it makes a good universal framework for looking at them (but then I would): the total experience of wearing them.

Take your yoga bags - I can tell you exactly why the natural mesh fabric one is like that, besides aesthetics. It's so sweat odor doesn't build up so much inside the bag. Both of them are good, functional bags, it's just a different thing is being emphasized. Someone might very well own both, and take nylon bag when it's raining and the mesh bag when it's not. Or they might only own one, the other just not fitting with who they are - someone might say the the nylon bag isn't natural enough, and that matters to them, and someone else might say the mesh bag is too crunchy.

>>8885301
And also let's not confuse "diehard" with "purist." Purity is garbage.

>>8885300
forgot to finish my thought:

what i'm saying is they're both functional in the sense that they allow me to carry my yoga mat from home -> class.

but left (the tech) allows me to do that in ALL environments. right doesnt. why? because of the fabric used...

i think it's this reason techpurists are so hard on the fabric they consider techwear - that fabric that excels in ALL conditions

>>8885301
i like you. cheers.

>>8885309
> that fabric that excels in ALL conditions

And anyone who's spent time dealing with technical fabrics will tell you there is no such thing. They all suck somehow, somewhere.

Gore-Tex gets clammy, so you get a membrane free softshell, like Dryskin. There's a downpour and it wets through, or you're in cold dry conditions but it's windy as fuck and heat pours past your body, where 0 CFM, completely windproof Gore-Tex would've kept it in. Etc.

>>8885312
Cheers.

I am new to tech-wear.

Where should I start and what should I buy first?

>>8885186
it looked good, fuck haters man

>>8885317
you know theres actually different types of goretex right? lol...

>>8885301
how do you test for things like wind resistance in a fitting room?

>>8885362
Of course. As of right now, there's Gore-Tex Pro, Active, Paclite, and stuff just branded Gore-Tex. They're all basically the same stuff, an ePTFE membrane laminated to a monolithic PU film. The differences are mostly branding for application and the different face fabrics used.

>>8885381
In a fitting room? IDK. Research beforehand to find out what you can expect in comparison to what you know. Do a search for "air permeability" and "CFM." "CFM" is cubic feet per minute.

>he fell for the techwear troll
keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek nice 1k jacket , shame everybody probably thinks it's adidas

>>8885402
I literally could not give a fuck if someone thinks my jacket is Adidas. What is wrong with you?

Can techwear work on light-haired people?

Could you recommend me some techy pants? I'm really digging the ones on >>8884842, so something like that would be great. I'd use them in everyday life and my budget is 50-100e

thx m80s

Hello beige sweatshirt guy in prof smyth's his103 class at u of t. I see you.

>>8884971
It's either not using technical fabrics or just unpractical as fuck.
Do you seriously think a down-to-knees shirt or a fucking robe is practical and designed to have optimal interaction with your environnment ?

is there such a thing a a tech skate shoe?

i need a low top shoe (cheap cheap.. under $80) for road biking in straps

stiff sole ideally

can't really find much

maybe a stupid idea but can't hurt to ask

>>8885404
>literally
>trying this hard

>>8885568
Outlier used to make some like your describing, not really.

>>8885568
what kind of tech are you looking for? because reebok workout los have a pretty flat and stiff sole and are leather so waterproof

>>8885561
Again there is no fucking way to tell what fabrics are used, and the long parka has already been thoroughly explained.

>>8880737
Military inspired techwear.

>>8885449
I too am in the market for something like that. help me please.

>>8885568
go clipless. cycling shoes are tech as fuck

>>8885652
>>8885449
Well for the pic you linked they are Carhartt WI pants which are right at your price maybe even a little under.

>>8885631
Techwear is about optimal interactiosn with the environment.
Not about having a fuckton of pockets or a cool-looking parka.
That autistic thing could easily be replaced by a short breathable waterproof jacket and waterproof pants, that could allow more movements.

>>8885708
There are hardly any pockets, and you sound like so many of the people that give techwear a bad rep. Stop thinking there is only one silhouette and say of proportions you can have. Techwear doesn't have to be all black clean proportioned clothing their should always be experimentation.

>>8885694
Thanks a lot! Do you have any other suggestions as to what those types of pants are called, what materials I should look for and maybe even some brands too? Doesn't need to be anything too specific, I just need a little pointing at the right general direction.

>>8885764
Honestly not really. Carhartt and Carhartt WIP are the only places I've been able to find pants like that. Maybe try some other heritage/streetcar brands similar to those.

>>8885781
Thanks anyway!

>>8885301
If you define tech just as "clothes made for functionality", then, well, that's like 98% of clothing ever made. The difference between a goretex shell and a sport coat is 150 years of technology, not philosophy. I'll agree that "that's not tech" "it's totally tech it's water resistant" gets pretty stupid, but what the hell are we even discussing? If it's not "looks like acronym" and it's not innovative fabrics and designs, what is it?

>>8883366
I actually own these in black, Ross had them for 40 bucks and I really like them, I just like the lunaracer version more

>>8885381
blow on it really hard

>>8884814
w2c?
>>8884823
w2c pants

What are some good pants in the $80-120 range that have a comfortable cotton feel, but are decently water resistant/quick drying? I have some REI stuff but they sound too much like nylon when I walk.

>>8886741
ministry of supply

>>8886741
patagonia makes some lightweight stuff, I saw it at REI, but I can't give a name :/

Which color?
Been meaning to cop one of these for a while. Or should I wait for them to release their fall/winter stuff this year?

>>8886716
pants are Rufus Green

>>8887644
the nice thing about getting a shell like that is that you can wear it year round. layer in the winter for more insulation, and just wear that in the summer and youll be good to go.

>>8887644
really like the shade of blue with the black details

w2c a techy hat
is this supreme/stone island the cheapest thing I'll find?

don't quite feel like spending $70 on a hat right now

>>8889610

this is kind of techy

>>8889610
well their normal hats are cheaper

but they aren't techy

bump

selling a sick Isaora Bomber on grailed

fully taped seams, dozens of awesome little details, great standalone for spring/fall or layer for winter

http://www.grailed.com/listings/25295-isaora-seam-sealed-softshell-bomber

thoughts on this bomber from Rains. anyone know the quality of Rains stuff?

>>8889661
quality is p dece for the price. dont expect to be warm tough

>>8889610
gonna cop this one I think, I've been looking for a water resistant cap for biking and sportswear caps are icky

>>8884845
shoes?

>>8884853
w2c?

>>8889717
>>8889610
Is this on the US site, btw? Can't find the SI hats on the EU one, only the jackets/sweats/pants

>>8889737
Arc'teryx Cape they gave out to homeless people in Vancouver.

>>8884934
>>8884919

who makes those jekkits

>>8889849
Black guy with the Instapump Furys wears BBS 11.

Looking for some pants. What would you guys reccomend?

>>8889849
first is acronym j27-e
second is bbs 11

>>8889867
Read the thread idiot

>want Gen 1 ECWCS
Any brand recommendations? The actual legit ones are fucking impossible to find in black so that's out of the question. Does the Alpha Industries one offer anything special to justify the price?

>>8884842
Looks like dogshit

What North Face model is he wearing?

Not tech but any of you had experience with these?


http://www.uniqlo.com/uk/store/goods/128456


Cant buy levis cargos in the uk

>>8889661
I've heard plenty of times that they don't breathe well, so there's that. Quality is quite good tho.

>>8889917
If you think that $130 dollars is a lot for a jacket you're probably interested in the wrong style.

Honestly hyped as fuck for the MGS5 clothing collection. The peace walker stuff was *pretty good*, with an even bigger project MGS5 is going to have way more cash stuff.
They even have a really cool boot coming out based on the one in game, I'll post it next.

>>8889921
Looks pretty good to me

>>8890071
What's so special about it? It just looks like cheap gimmick clothing.

>>8890066
Last time I checked their Gen 1 models were going for around 200 dollarydoos pretty much everywhere plus shipping since I'm europoor and can't find one anywhere nearby.
But the question still stands, is the actual tech any good in their model, I've found some cheaper models and I was wondering if it actually offers anything better.

>>8890071
Pic related.
>>8890078
It's going to be really interesting apparel with a lot of 60's-80's military influence. That excites me. Just play Ground Zeroes and a lot of the things the soldiers are wearing looks really cool.

>>8890114
But it's probably going to be dirt cheap quality and overpriced. It's video game apparel.

>>8890120
You don't know how Kojima works do you?

>>8890134
/v/, pls

>>8890140
I don't post in that shitpool anymore.

>>8890134
Is he known for high-quality clothing releases?

>>8890158
Kojima is known for high-quality anything.

>>8890085
I got mine for $108. They're discontinued anyways so you will never get it for retail anyways. But yeah they're worth it yeah double layered makes it crazy warm and it's quite water resistant.

>>8890161
lmao
Boot looks overdesigned imo.

>>8890161
So he's not.

>>8890179
Another low intelligence plebeian who can't comprehend non-linear plot structure.
LMAO!

>>8890162
How well does it breathe?
And how well does it resist the water?

>>8890184
What do you imagine plot structure has to do with cheap gimmick cosplay clothing?

You're fawning over the equivalent of the Assassins Creed hoody.

>>8890120
it's made by Puma

so techwear is the authentic "health goth"?

>>8886208
>but what the hell are we even discussing? If it's not "looks like acronym" and it's not innovative fabrics and designs, what is it?

I don't have a definition for "techwear," though I've tried on here before to sometimes cringeworthy results, and I'm no longer convinced it's a useful term except for starting discussions around some clothes that share some things in common.

Before I go any further I think it's important to note that disparate things get subsumed under the same cultural label for good reasons despite being very different. Labels get slapped on, in a particular historical context, based on commonalities judged important. Both Ernő Goldfinger and Louis Kahn are "Brutalist." Both Alain Resnais and Jean-Luc Godard are "French New Wave."

Compare Acronym vs. Veilance.

I also think considering this as fits instead of as pieces is more productive - you can have fit with a "tech" vibe composed entirely of non-tech pieces, and you could be in full Acronym and not give off a tech vibe. Outlier is frequently J. Crew in Schoeller.

You know what I really think is going on here, what's at the root of the the term? (con't)

Stated briefly and roughly, western/colonized/cosmopolitan world culture is morphing into something very different and very new. The old codes are breaking down, especially of formality and the divide between activewear and sportswear and outdoorwear and everything. You're seeing, finally, technical fabrics and traditionally athletic garments incorporated into everyday wear - just like what happened to give us the sportcoat, etc.

I don't just mean sartorial codes - the sexual revolution is still only about fifty years old, and that's shaken everything (for the good). Think about how young and how old the Industrial revolution is.

And there's a certain set of garments, styles, technical innovations that lead to certain kinds of experiences with clothes that many of us feel is more than ordinarily suitable to our present-rapidly-becoming-future. It's as wide and diverse as the world now, because it's suited for it. It's the hedge fund manager in a Veilance trench at the Wall St. Heliport and the kid on the crew at the Water Taxi down the road decked out in Heattech, the hooded-and-neck-gaitered-up anarchist spraypainting the hedge fund manager's lobby door, fashion kids in Acronym P10s, and average local teenagers in Adidas trackpants with the same silhouette.

>>8885244
Maybe a better way of explaining this is to take this garment I posted earlier. What I was going to get at is - it's Ten C. The fabric is amazing, a nylon-polyester jersey that's claimed waterproof (IDK if it really is or just really water resistant) and slowly molds to your body. It's functional. But it's also a fundamentally reactionary garment, not really more function than an eighty year old safari jacket.

Is it techwear? I'd say, "why the fuck not, who cares?" Would I wear it? Styled to bring it up to 2014, absolutely, but not with some generic chinos. Like, what's more technical or more advanced, pic related (IDK, but say the pants are Outlier) or Birthday's all-cotton fit? >>8884842

>>8890511
That's what I mean. I'd like to talk about all of it, and I'd like to see "techwear" be a tool to bring us together to do that. It has been in the past, when it hasn't been derailed by people latching onto a fucking buzzword for identity and defending their particular taste in it like a religious cultist.

Like, I'm practically allergic to Veilance, aesthetically. But I'd never say it's not "tech," or refuse to talk about it, or hold someone in contempt for liking it.

What's the point in pissing on each other in arrogance and assumed knowledge when we're dressing for what's coming, what we can't know but deeply desire, stare at through smoke, through a lens, through a network, through a GPU, through an AMOLED screen, thorugh melanin-coated mirror shades under the gap between our neck gaiter and hood?

Let's have fun challenging each other to the thrill of living right fucking now, early 21st century, late capitalism, early climate disaster, while not naked. That's what these threads are at their best, and we can do it more often.

/sloppyrant

New jiberish drop today. Worth having a gander at. Fishtale looks dope.http://www.jiberish.com/collections/all?sort_by=created-descending

>>8889917
If u want ecwcs dont buy helikon it shit. Choose mil tec

Techwear? Stand aside plebs.

>>8884854
This >>8884847 is a 3L Gore-Tex dungaree jacket by White Mountaineering. So a denim aesthetic with gore-tex isn't techwear...

any good tech boots for under $200?

>>8880737
So have the techfriends ITT not yet realized that 'techwear' was created as a response to life in urban Japan?

You have no reason to wear this clothing if you do not live in a densely populated urban area.
Sure you can wear water resistant clothes etc, but that's not techwear it's just clothing for the weather.

>>8891231
forgive my retard, but how does techwear benefit you more in a densely populated area?

>>8892490
Not that guy, and this idea of techwear being rooted in a particularly Japanese urbanity is... dubious, but have you lived in both a highly developed urban area and a less dense exurban or rural area?

With the exception of places that are tiny little villages, when you live in a less dense, less developed area, you generally have a hardshell with active climate control, tons of storage space built in, an AM/FM radio and often a satellite radio and a GPS, etc. etc.

Problems are: it's unwieldy, requires full attention to operate, saps your physical fitness, is destroying the biosphere, usually costs more than an entire Acronym season, and costs money just to own, let alone wear.

The one thing I miss about living somewhere I owned a car is the way it turns into a giant bag you just don't have to think about.

Can someone post that photo of the guy with long black hair wearing a tnf jacket, white t shirt and black nike flyknits. It's good inspo.

bump

>>8887644
I have the blue one, and it's gorgeous.

>>8890036
Rainwear doesn't generally breathe anyway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-h5rD7cVnk

Some interesting concepts.

>>8895265
Depends what you mean by "rainwear" and "generally." Most old style rainwear wasn't, but some of it was - Google "Dachstein sweaters" and go down a bit to a blog called Cold Thistle. 4chan won't let me post a link.

In the past few decades, though, there's been plenty of development, and now we have everything from Gore style membranes (that allow water vapor out, but have zero airflow) to other membranes (that actually let some amount of air through) to the successors of those Dachsteins, modern membrane-free softshells with durable water repellent treatments.

I don't know the quality of Rains stuff, and like I've said upthread, I'm virulently against policing what is and isn't "tech," but average schlubs have cheap waterproof/breathable membrane shells for their five minute walk from the train. If Rains isn't at least trying at breathability, they're up to some distinct game. (Which is fine, *potentially* tech compatible, I can't say anything more because I know zilch about Rains.)

Also, back to >>8890036, "breathe well" is extremely subjective/meaningless without being compared to a standard or something else.

>>8883366

b-b-because those look like ass

23.10

>>8891090
Really?
How so?
It'd be actually cheaper to get Mil-Tec anyway but I'm kinda interested why it's shit
Would Rothco one be any good?

>>8891090
you magnificient retard, its the exact same chinese shit with different tags

>>8887644
w2c?

>>8892521
where do you live now that doesnt require a car?

>>8898261
If you drive in any metropolitan environment you're fucking retarded.

>>8898241
Aether

>>8891231
i've been saying this all along. techwear is clothing that is suited to and even inspired by the cyberpunk metropolises of east asia. the integration of technology into the landscape of everyday life is more evident in that area of the world than in the fusty old cities of europe, or the disneyfied car-centric suburban-sprawl cities of north america.

>>8898218
nope Helikon is polish brand and its more like poor queshua jacket
Miltec is fine, same quality like for ex chinese adidas jacket

>>8898271

>Los Angeles

>>8897650
I wsa considering in shop both, mil tec won, cause it was better quality overall. Mil tec was really dark, and helikon, more like graphite.

Helicon have better breathability on paper, but overa its like queshua jacket. Mil tec quality is fine, nothin special. Simillar to adidas parka owned by me. Better than cheap monday tbh.

In poland helikon is 290PLN and Mil tec is 270PLN. Its cheap, fine, looks good and its okey, i walked last night from 1am to 3am few miles and dong get any sweaty etc so its ok

>>8899249
no you sperglord, both are made in china, both are shit tier and made for wannabie call of duty keyboard warriors and both are for dirty poorfags

>>8899273
Why are you so poor?

bump

this is why i like cold weather.

>>8889610
http://store.archivalclothing.com/collections/accessories-trail-caps/products/trail-cap-navy-waxed

>>8889661
My experience with the rain jacket is that it looks cool and kept me dry in heavy rain
negatives is that it isn't warm and should be used with layering

When did rich kids dressing like hackers/cyberpunks become /fa/? This looks like the neckbeard of the future.

>>8901687
>When did rich kids dressing like hackers/cyberpunks become /fa/?

When it became obvious that we had to deal with the concerns of those cultures going forward the influence cropped back up.

As far as rich kids, obviously some stuff takes money to get, but I don't read it as a rich kid phenomena at all.

>This looks like the neckbeard of the future.

Why?

>>8889832
fucking homeless people get all the good cops

>>8889832
>>8901715
They make them regularly, I'm pretty sure, from scrap ends. It's great, except they have the police do distribution, because fucking Arc'Teryx loves cops. And ACAB.

>>8901710
I can see where he's coming from. Techwear is really cool (except when people try and copy exactly someone's fit) but you can't deny that 90% of this stuff is designer, haute couture, or pure runway. All of this stuff looks sick and it's good for inspo, but what I'd be really impressed with is seeing a fit under, say, 300.

>fuck off poorboi

>>8901732
Engineered fabric means that a proper jacket can be sold at a premium. However, part of techware's functionality is its monochrome style. You might by a nice base layer for upwards for $100, but that piece will go with just about everything you own. Techware outfits may be more expensive individually, but not so much collectively

>>8901768
"Anyway, here's a quick sample fit. You could tweak it a few ways - get a jacket that's more breathable*, sub in cargo pants of some variety, etc. etc.

http://marmot.com/products/details/dark-rider-jacket

http://swrve.myshopify.com/products/schoeller-softshell-trousers-blk-label

http://www.outdoorknitwear.com/store/product.php?product=52 (~70 USD)

http://store.nike.com/us/en_us/pd/special-field-boot/pid-438375/pgid-771642

$635 for all outer layers. If you really want to take it from zero, add $20 for a pair of socks and $30-40 each for top and bottom baselayers, although you can go cheaper with all that."

that's basic in techwear. Like I said it's a very cool concept but you're kidding if you think it isn't meant for people with a comparatively massive disposable income. aka Japanese, Singaporeans, Hongkies, Nords, etc.

>>8901732
>>8901801

I'm >>8901710 and I posted that. It was a fraction of an hour of sloppy research all at MSRP.

Now, two things are worth noting. First, 635 for an outfit including a hardshell and boots, as well as two other extremely versatile, rewearable items isn't rich kid range. (Before anyone grouses: it's not, you (and I, although I've had decent money before) are just really poor.)

Second, guy saying you want a $300 fit? Set some realistic use conditions and I'll play.

>>8901801
You really didn't understand what I said lol

>>8901801
>you're kidding if you think it isn't meant for people with a comparatively massive disposable income. aka Japanese, Singaporeans, Hongkies, Nords, etc.

>>8901855 again. Also, WTF are you on about with making "comparatively massive disposable income" about ethnicity?

>>8901732
if you're a single young person on an average salary and you don't drive (as we assume in the east Asian urban setting) then there is no reason why techwear pieces are out of your budget. that is to say however that 17 year old kids are not the target market.

>>8901855
Fuck it, $240 for early autumn. Again, hasty search, and no used items. You can do better. Still enough in the budget for a neck gaiter and socks if you want them. If you drop the (really unnecessary, but someone would whine about their fucking hair getting wet) hat, add a new book at retail, a week's Metrocard, brunch for two, or a cheap bag.

>WR hat
http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/69287?productId=1161460&attrValue_0=Loden&mr:trackingCode=2F785596-B0F0-E211-A497-90E2BA285E75&mr:referralID=NA&mr:device=c&mr:adType=pla&mkwid=zRgjnBSv_dc&pcrid=57704150120&qs=3091384_google
>or
http://www.rei.com/product/872959/rei-crestrail-cap

>softshell
http://www.patagonia.com/us/product/mens-guide-jacket-special?p=11397-1

>baselayer
http://www.sierratradingpost.com/icebreaker-everyday-bodyfit-200-shirt-lightweight-merino-wool-long-sleeve-for-men~p~7511n/?filterString=s~wool%2Fclothing~d~5%2Fmens-clothing~d~15%2Fmens-base-layer~d~7455%2F&colorFamily=01

>Polyco cargo pants
http://www.dickies.com/mens-clothing/mens-cargo-pants/Slim-Fit-Straight-Leg-Cargo-Pant-WP594.jsp

>Shoes
http://store.nike.com/us/en_us/pd/lunar-force-1-reflect-shoe/pid-777087/pgid-1525390
>or
http://store.nike.com/us/en_us/pd/free-4-running-shoe/pid-1267073/pgid-10213471
>or
http://store.nike.com/us/en_us/pd/lunar-internationalist-shoe/pid-843913/pgid-10250385

>>8902094
>average salary

Or even a below average salary, underpaid hourly grunt work, shitshow freelance hustling, wholly symbolic internship stipend, blowing your student loans, etc. etc.

(Note I don't suggest blowing your student loans.)

>east Asian

You're really hung up on that, aren't you?

Can I get your opinion on this jacket?
I wanted a pretty affordable tech jacket to protect me against rain and wind, this seems quite affordable and imo looks prette well, altough the the logo sux.
C/N ?

>>8902260
Link to specs?

>>8902278
Waterprotection:10 000 mm
Breathability: 10 000 g H2O/m2/24h

Good technical fit, longer on the back, covering the butt,

>>8902300
Link?

Those are basically the minimum numbers to qualify something as wawterproof and breathable.

Wait.. Are those prices real? In dollars? Not Yen?

Holy fuck just buy a north face or something.

>>8902313
http://www.tuttu.pl/wodoodporne-membrana,kurtka-telemark-coal-68-k-6704-15311-p

polish company, polish retail, price about 145€

>>8902339
Hong Kong dollars, read the thread you fucking mongoloid

>>8902798
Don't lie to this guy, everyone in this thread owns some of the stuff in that picture, and we all shelled out those prices

A'ight, I live in Northern Europe and it gets really cold and snows a shitton here in the winter.
What shoes that would fit the tech asthetic would be good for winter? I'm looking for maybe mid/low top sporty sneakers. Would it be a better idea to use the ZX Fluxes I have and get some warm socks? If so, what type of socks would you recommend?

>>8902348
The design's pretty solid, but I wouldn't expect much out of it on breathability.

>>8903069
Lol.

>>8903233
Possibly some insulated hiking shoes or trail runners.

Warm socks are probably the best idea.

Where to cop tactical pants with a taper or i can do it my self for /out/ related activities?

Looking for tech wear pants with a taper for running and going to the gym in. Any recommendations?

>>8904404
>where to cop tactical pants

Looks like you can figure that out.

>can I do it my self

IDK; how good are you at alterations? Take them to a tailor.

>>8904434
Literally any tapered track pants. If you don't want to do Nike/Adidas/etc. Isaora's made a minor specialty of the various species of elastic waisted pants. Pic related, yes they come in black.

A lot of "where can I cop this kind of thing" your best approach is just go to omnibus outdoor or athletic brands you like the aesthetic of, and they'll have it. Also, of course, fashion brands you like.

If you want water resistance on something that doesn't have it, make sure it won't kill the fabric (it won't on nearly anything) and cop an aftermarket DWR. Use a spray on the outside for anything that goes next to your skin so it'll wick your sweat, but you can use a wash for anything that doesn't need to move moisture out. Wash + spray gives the best results.

>>8904640
Even Arc'Teryx makes them. If I'm understanding what's going on here correctly, that's a combined pocket and vent zip, which I'm not sure how I feel about it.

http://arcteryx.com/product.aspx?language=EN&gender=Mens&category=Pants&model=Stradium-Pant

That is what's going on, right? I've seen people do it with hardshell jackets for good reason and effect but it seems ill advised on training pants.

These aren't very tapered; just illustrating what's out there. I imagine a tailor could take care of that.

>>8904640
>>8904640
Even Arc'Teryx makes them. If I'm understanding what's going on here correctly, that's a combined pocket and vent zip, which I'm not sure how I feel about it.

http://arcteryx.com/product.aspx?language=EN&gender=Mens&category=Pants&model=Stradium-Pant

That is what's going on, right? I've seen people do it with hardshell jackets for good reason and effect but it seems ill advised on training pants.

These aren't very tapered; just illustrating what's out there. I'm not sure how tailoring them would work out with the articulation. You'd have to start very low.

>>8884970
w2c?

>>8906535
Those look like andwander to me