/fa/ - Fashion

Trash bag back packs

Insulation

Sub 12 lb gear

1 BearVault 500
2 Western Mountaineering Summerlite
3 Six Moon Designs Wild Oasis
4 Klymit Inertia X-Lite
5 Samsung Galaxy S3*
6 Sunglasses
7 Bushnell SolarWrap Mini*
8 Rite in the Rain notebook & mechanical pencil
9 Plastic water bottle*
10 Dried baby wipes
11 Watch
12 Platypus Hoser with Sawyer Mini filter
13 Ditty bag*
14 GoPro Hero3+ with headstrap
15 Outdoor Research Helios sun hat
16 Gossamer Gear Mariposa
17 Harrison JMT map set
18 Buff bandana
19 Columbia Omni Heat midweight baselayer
20 Eastern Mountain Sports Techwick UV shirt
21 Icebreaker GT Run Rush Merino Tee
22 Backcountry Hadron down jacket
23 Tasc Performance Intensity sports bra
24 Eastern Mountain Sports rain jacket
25 Smartwool Maybell skirt
26 Icebreaker Everyday Merino long underwear
27 Assorted bags*
28 Salomon Speedcross 3
29 Iniji socks (2)
30 Dirty Girl Gaiters

bump for tech

Is there any kind of consensus on merino shirts?

I want to stock out the basics but I can't find the best ones. Ibex? Icebreaker? Minus 33?

>>8748603
>>8748607
Love the texture, whats the brand?

I've got a $45 giftcard for The North Face, don't mind spending more. What should I get? Particularly interested in hiking gear and wanted to get the Venture in vinnia orange, but they're not being made in that color this season.

>>8749635
nvm, found it

>>8749564
ive bought cheap minus 33 merino longsleave and bottoms on amazon for $50-60 total and honestly, aside from that annoying itchy tag that i had to remove, i wore it every day durin winter/early spring as my insulation layer. there's holes all over it too but i dont might, its a base layer that goes underneath

ive had a thicker icebreaker shirt that i wear during really cold snowing morning runs and i love it. sometimes i wear it casually as well

as for shirts and henleys, merino wool is next to silk for best texture+insulation/weight, however it can be $80 for a basic merino wool shirt so it's not pleb tier and more yuppy tier. also wool wear is an investment and you have to maintain from moths and what not, but honestly ive worn my wool over and over and over until it pills and rips that my investment was well worth it. look for cheap merino shirts in the $30-50 range before investing in more exp stuff. you can also go synthetic with stuff like Patagonia too which is significantly cheaper

my personal fav is outlier merino wool shirt but extremely costly ($100 for a t shirt)
outlier.cc
finisterreuk.com is nice too if you're euro

better to find ibex/icebreaker/patagonia on sale
minus33 is cheap and nice, just cut off those damn tags

>>8749635
zpacks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irLyTIapncQ

>>8748586

Any new materials now? Tyvek was sort of used for a bit, but dont think it hit the spot. I guess since you cant really sew it.

>>8749564

I copped two icebreaker everyday shirts for $20 each. Excited to get them in.

sierratradingpost.com sells overstock of icebreaker stuff at like ~75% off.

Anyone got any good fleece shouts? Pref stuff that isn't too expensive and I dig quarter/half-zip stuff. I copped this TNF one but I'm not totally sure of it, also considering getting it in red but that might be a bit wacky.

>>8751061
kind of feeling this colour too

>>8751061
i like patagonia r1 hoody, good for ultralight weight backpacking and the slim fit is fuckin sex, reg price is like >$100 but can be copped for less than $80 during 50% sales

also check out montbell ul down, japan outdoor company that has slim fitting and ultra light weight 800 fill power down (anything less than 800 is pleb tier goose down)

on really cold days on campus i just wear

R1 hoody (no undershirt, it's my base layer)
Montbell EX Light Down Jacket
sometimes Patagonia Houdini if it's windy

all for under >1 lb of weight

>>8751088
thanks for the info mate
i like patagonia and was looking at their synchilla snap-t ones, i like the r1 too. would probably go for the pullover instead of the hoodie tho.

tbh one reason i copped the north face one is cause my hardshell and bag are also patagonia so i fancied mixing it up.

wish all patagonia stuff on ebay wasn't like xxl

>>8750893
I'm UK, might go for the Finisterre

>>8751119
Want so hard

>>8748586
Good thread, OP. I'm not really into the whole ultralight ethos, but the clothes often look super cool and it short-circuited the brand and tactical obsessions that derail most tech threads.

Pic related in one piece I really like, the Patagonia Ultralight Down Shirt in Midnight Navy. They only modestly claimed it was "their" lightest insulation piece, but it's actually the lightest anyone's ever done. 5.7 easy cozy warm ounces. (162g.)

Discontinued, but a different colorway is still on clearance.

http://www.patagonia.com/us/product/mens-ultralight-down-shirt-pullover?p=84736-1

>>8752478

>>8749635
If you didn't figure it out from the guy linking you to Z-Packs, the fabric is Cuben. You'll also want to check out Cilogear, Zimmberbuilt, Aarn, and Hyperlite Mountain Gear for similar stuff.

http://www.carryology.com/insights/insights-1/geeking-sailcloth-bags/

Decent write-up. Click through the picture at the top to see an awesome Nike x Tom Sachs capsule using the material.

Pic related is Cilogear.

>>8751633
the colours you can buy atm aren't as good sadly

What backpacks do you fellas use?

>>8752478
>>8752478
Also, another great thing about your thread, OP: talking about the weight of the outfit puts the emphasis back on the experience of wearing the clothes and away from all the dross.

>>8749635
If you didn't figure it out from the guy linking you to Z-Packs, the fabric is Cuben. You'll also want to check out Cilogear, Zimmberbuilt, Aarn, and Hyperlite Mountain Gear for similar stuff.

http://www.carryology.com/insights/insights-1/geeking-sailcloth-bags/

Decent write-up. Click through the picture at the top to see an awesome Nike x Tom Sachs capsule using the material.

Pic related is Cilogear.

>>8749564
TBH, just buy off price and design. Paying more for finer micron stuff, like Ibex's 17.5, isn't a bad idea, but I would skip Outlier's basic tee just because it's too basic beyond the 17.5 micron wool. It's also 200gsm, which they think makes for a better drape, but I think most people on /fa/ will prefer a lighter one.

Their other wool stuff is ace, though.

Slight blends aren't a bad idea at all - the handfeel can be very subtly different, not worse, just different. Off the top of my head, Patagonia makes ones blended with polyester; Kuiu and Finisterre make ones blended with nylon. The idea is the same in every case - decrease dry times, increase strength.

The Kuius are probably the most *advanced* around - they use only 17.5 micron fiber and a special spinning process that produces stronger, more elastic yarn from it. Three perfectly calibrated weights - 125, 145, and 210 gsm; the 125 has vents cut in the sides and the 145 and 210 have small Napoleon pockets. Great feel, great function, only problem is that it's all hunting colors.

All that said, you can't go wrong with the any cheapo Sierra Trading Post option another guy mentioned. I've got most of my baselayers that way and have no complaints.

>>8752507

>>8752526
Cool chart, I'm also interested in what people use personally though :) Do you have one of the bags in the picture?

>>8752533
Naw just have a Nike backpack

>>8752507
got this recently and love it

i got sick of wearing a black bag

>>8752526
too heavy

ACR F/W 1415 tomorrow at 18:00 CET/12pm EST. Get hype techfriends.

https://twitter.com/erlsn/status/507603137687867392

>>8753195
MY BODY IS READY (FOR GARMENTS SO COMFORTABLE AND ANATOMICALLY TAILORED IT'S LIKE THEY'RE NOT EVEN THERE)

I wonder how fast the NYC dealers, which finally exist, are going to be rolling out the stock. If they have it yet.

>>8753293
MY BODY IS READY to internet window shop.

I'm nowhere near able to afford any ACR, but I'll definitely still be mirin.

>>8752515
holy shit i want this, ive never seen this kind of material before

>>8752515
Thank. You. So. Much. Those Zimmerbuilt & Cilogear packs are fantastic, and i wish i could cop pretty much everything that Nike x Sachs piece.

gettin by with a little help from my /fa/ friends.

>>8753195
Looking to cop the cashmere beanie and shemagh. Know of any online retailers in Europe?

>>8749674
what is this coat called and where to buy it? looks next lvl

way too tempting


Weight
6.2 oz. / 177 g

Fill weight
1.9 oz. / 55 g

Insulation
900 Fill power goose down

Fabric
7-denier Ballistic Airlight rip-stop nylon

>>8756084

>>8756096
>>8751061
I'll dump some more later, but if you're looking for a good, cheap fleece pullover, check out the Polartec USMC pullover. At least per Polartec marketing materials, it has the highest approval rating of any piece of issued gear.

Sounds like marketing talk, but look at it, and don't you believe it? The sheer basic coherence of the design, done by Natick Labs (the US military infantry R&D center) in collaboration with Polartec, is kind of staggering. Like, yes, you think - that is the ideal form of a classic fleece pullover. No "tactical" bullshit, no frips, just a layer of fuzzy polyester insulation that's completely fluid to slide on, wear, tuck away your hands in.

And I believe it more because I got to talking gear with a combat veteran I know one day, very much not a fashion kid, but I mentioned I was thinking about copping it and the statistic, and he was all like, "oh, you know about Polartec? Yeah, I believe that." How his unit got excited whenever they issued gear with the Polartec logo, because they knew it worked.

There's also a newer version in a fire resistant grid Power Dry (versus the Classic Micro of the original) with thumb loops added and a different form factor for the kangaroo pocket. More functional and less comfycore.

Like with all surplus stuff, check the NSN for authenticity. (NSNs are basically military SKUs, specifying a particular set of specifications for gear. Each size is a different NSN, and you should be able to Google them up. Pay no more than $25 for either.

http://www.polartec.com/uploads/pdfs/POL_Mil%20Half%20Zip%20ss_060412.pdf
http://www.polartec.com/uploads/pdfs/POL_Mil%20PD%20FR%20Grid%20ss_062912.pdf

>>8756685
>>8751018
I really, really want these Tyvek and neoprene trends to die. It's not even so much new materials as it is using unintended materials - which, by all means, I'm too much of a Margiela* fan to protest at that. But have it make sense somehow. Have a reason for it.

UEG, who I think started it with the Tyvek, might have a reason for it - but it's a garbage reason: to the extent its manifesto is coherent philosophy it's retch inducing. It's the 2010s and people are still talking about cleanliness and purity, *and* yoking it to basic bitch takes on the ephemerality of life, and using postal envelope materials that degrade to turn all that into garments? Like no. No. Cleanliness and purity are death concepts, and any actually lucid conception of ephemerality in the 21st century has to not be so perennially and personally weepy; to be so is actually a shirking from the realistic prospect that we will live to participate in the extinction of our species, and the certainty that our way of life, "lifestyle," will become impossible. It acts like personal death, the most boring and basic thing, is the sole necessity facing human consciousnesses right now. As if life wasn't what mattered.

Garments like that piss all over time, over what we face. They just fall apart. Every last generic sweat chamber Gore-Tex jacket turned out today is a precious thing, because in thirty years we probably won't be able to make ePTFE membranes, but with luck and/or good construction it might still be keeping one of us dry and alive. And, conversely, objects actually designed to wear into themselves, to take on a patina, to wear and *last* - they're valuable, too, because they show their duration and their experiences, the most reliable sustainable source of meaning we have. Accreted life.

*Pic is MMM Line 0 (Artisinal/couture) A/W '06. The jacket took 103 hours to produce and sold for $15k.

>>8756691

Neoprene on jackets is just annoying and bad, a self-sustaining hype reaction by every last dipshit with rich friends and no ideas thinking he, too, needs to be putting out MA-1s that feel kind of like a wetsuit with slightly different meaningless symbols printed on the sleeve than every other dipshit putting out MA-1s that feel kind of like a wetsuit.

Somebody give me a boiled wool-reflective yarn blend grid knit commando sweater with X-Pac reenforcements and a concealed front pocket array - two napoleons and a kangaroo. And X-Pac around the thumb loop holes. Or something.

>>8756084
Damn, that's nice. I love throwover insulation pieces, if you can't tell.

So yeah, let's talk about Acronym's best collection yet. Do people want to do it ITT or give it its own thread?

Back on this thread topic, pic related is the Black Diamond Alpine Start. Nearly optimal UL windshell. 80 gsm Schoeller Dynamic with Nanosphere sewn into a top-notch pattern designed for climbing and good for everything else.

bump

looking to get into techwear through thrifty means, will post fits when I get off my ass later in the year.

Would love shemagh inspo. Love the purpose and execution and I have one, cant figure out how to wear it well.

ACRONYM FW-14/15 IS HERE

http://www.acrnm.com/collections/_fw1415

Cool shit as usual, though the pants are a big too baggy for my taste
I love the expansion into silver territory from black, army green, and occasional khaki/beige
Tons of great jackets as usual

>>8756691
beatiful

>>8756718
speaking of self sustaining, neoprene is actually incredibly unsustainable. patagonia is trying to innovate with an experimental plant-based version called yulex.

fun fact.

Saving thread.

So apparently someone made this at the Undercover 25th Anniversary party because Errolson didn't make it...

Hello tech-/fa/gs.
I'm currently using free runs 5.0+ as my summer/mid-season tech-sneaks, and i'm now looking for a pair of winter techish high tops (not necessarely ultra light ones).
Could you guys advise a pair which doesn't cost a arm please?
>pic semi related

>>8752515
Kuiu make their shirts in plain colours now, well brown OD and grey

I'd love to get some but shipping and tax to the UK is going to be a bitch

>>8752526

Icon 3.0 needs to be there

>>8757839
OMG dat S6-C & J43-GT
Hhhhnnnngg

>>8757839
>>8762974
Yeah that J43-GT is flooring
>poor student fag

>>8752533

http://www.amazon.com/Military-Rucksacks-Tactical-Backpack-Bag-Black/dp/B00CDI7UEQ/ref=sr_sp-atf_title_1_1?s=hunting-fishing&ie=UTF8&qid=undefined&sr=1-1&keywords=daypack
Rollin' with one of these m'self. I manage to fit whatever the hell I need to carry that day plus a change of clothes, a toothbrush, and a meal wherever I go.

It works.

Marches Shopping Addict issue seemed to have a nice focus to it

>>8756691
>because in thirty years we probably won't be able to make ePTFE membranes,
what are you talking about?

>>8763931
>>8763933
>>8763938
>>8763944
>>8763947
>>8763955
>>8763964
>>8763968
>>8763974

Where can I find a similar magazine in English?

I thought the acrnym drop was pretty meh, compared to last fw collection i find it lacks pieces rhat really stand out

>>8765094
Fashion magazines? i-D is cool. And I don't know about american vogue, but the italian edition is great.

>>8758011
Lol Patagonia, pic is how they're advertising it (and the fact they're giving away the process so other manufacturers can make cleaner suits) on the site.

Why do people worship Arc'Teryx again?

>>8762821
Yeah, plain hunting colors. They're awesome; I just wish I could get them in black, teal, navy, burgundy, etc.

>>8765094
I'm not familiar with that publication, but the S/S (current, still?) issue of Highsnobiety Magazine was all about technical fashion

>>8764965
>ePTFE membrane
It's the primary component in Gore-Tex and many other waterproof/breathable fabrics.

http://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/rainwear-how-it-works.html

>we won't be able to make
Civilization's going to shit, basically. Production of all these high-tech textiles requires lots of, usually, non-renewable resources and energy. Even if sustainably sourced alternatives are developed - like, see the Yulex discussion above* - they still are only viable in large scale, centralized, energy hungry industrial processes.

Well, we'll just use sustainable energy for that, yeah? That's the other half of the vicious** circle we're in. The global political and economic order is a fucking mess falling apart more and more every day. It's not just a matter of the "political will" not being there to actually address the energy and climate crises; the institutions and processes that would do so are breaking down before our eyes. Climate and energy instability then exacerbate political instability.

>>8766312
Say you manage to scrabble together enough plant oil and solar panels to start making hardshells. How are you going to get the factory up and running? How will you provide for your workers when your currency is devalued and food prices are skyrocketing? How will you secure your big, centralized factory when local security forces waver between dysfunction and survival level corruption? How will you run your supply chain and get your jackets to customers or retailers when air shipment is nearly impossible, truck fuel costs are exorbitant, and the highways are nearly unmaintained and trucks frequently get robbed?

Don't think whereever you live is immune. We live in a globalized economy and no state can stand what's coming. This concerns everyone.

*And note the Yulex suits still have to be about 40% traditional neoprene, but they're working on it.
**And make no mistake, we're talking vice, corruption, wickedness. Not in some puritan Christian sense at all - if "how should we live" is the question of ethics, "in a way that doesn't make life impossible" has to be conclusion #1.

>>8766312
I have a different view in my opinion
My background is in polymer with a Chem. Engineering degree. I've had a co-op at a natural gas cracker where we seperate a bunch of raw materials for polymers such as 99.98 mol % polypropylene. Also did research on polymeric o-rings and textiles at the lab. I now work at a gas refinery but I've been maxing out my Roth IRA every year. I'm an anti-fed reserve, libertarian fiscal conservative kinda guy so I've actually bought about $8k in silver panda bars for the past 3.5 years. On my off hours and breaks, I daytrade a lot of penny stocks on my gambling investing account but I do feel like a huge ass market correction is coming soon, oct-nov maybe

I take the stance that even if the world goes to shit, we adapt. As long as the demand is there, supply will catch up. There isn't going to be a dark age like in after the fall of the Roman Empire. We have the internet now and there's so much tech revolution that's going on right now that even when the economy falls, innovations will NOT cease. I'm hedge for an economic collapsed but I do not believe it's going to be like Detroit/Somalia wear I live. The economic collapse that I believe will occur is the Asian boom. It's like how London was center of finance in 1700-1800s then shifted to New York in the 1900-2000s, the next shift is Shanghai 2100-2200+, but that's ages from now IMO, I'll be dead by then

One big thing in material science is 3-d printing. We're also in the mist of a wearable tech boom as well. I personally can't wait to cop me a solid watch with GPS, heart beat monitor, sleep monitor, and long battery life

>>8766933
>3D printing
>>8766320
you won't need to ship anything when every home has a 3d printer can you just send them the file to generate a product. this tech is on track to do exactly that.

How does /fa/ feel about the Cobra Merino full zip to be wore under my hardshell? I live in Texas where it rarely gets below 30F. I bike to work also.

>>8767337
Not sure about Texas weather but it seems hot and dry?

How about the OR Echo Tee (3.1 oz), Patagonia Air Flow Tee (3.7 oz), or Merino 1 Silkweight Tee (4.1 oz) + a wind jacket to bike with and get highly breathable fabrics

Sweet jacket though

>>8762921
no it doesnt

>>8766312
We're not going to run out of energy in 30 years. Proven reserves of fossil fuels will handily outlast that, to say nothing of reserves we don't know about. And then? The market will change, sustainable sources will be much more highly developed, there may be new sources that we cannot have foreseen from today. People have been exhausting sources of energy for thousands of years. It happens.

>>8769204
Given that he's legitimately worried about not being able to get a raincoat because the world will end I don't think he's open to considering that.

>>8766933
>>8766943
>>8769204
>>8769346

Bumping to respond to this and talk Acronym later. One thing, though:

>the world will end

I said nothing about the end of the world. I'm talking about a prolonged period of political, economic, and ecological instability and dysfunction.

Don't do that.

Also, to be superpedantic, I didn't say anything about raincoats. What, you think humans made it thousands of years without rain protection? I was talking fabrics whose production is dependent on large scale, centralized production.

>>8770136
>I said nothing about the end of the world. I'm talking about a prolonged period of political, economic, and ecological instability and dysfunction.

>>8770151

You're conflating a rational fear of possible end-of-civilization scenarios with a perceived irrational response to such fear. The two don't necessarily go hand-in-hand.

wish there was summer tech wear. cover my skin to protect from UV but super light weight and breathable so i dont overheat
most tech wear is winterized or for wet weather conditions

>>8770370
its called wearing sunscreen

>>8770406
w2c??

>>8748586

just copped link related in black, whats the general consensus on patagonia? good cop?

http://www.patagonia.com/us/product/critical-mass-messenger-pack?p=48220-0

>>8770776
yeah they are good :)

>>8770340
w2c boots

>>8770796

thanks man i needed my internet board friends seal of approval

What does /fa/ think?

http://softs.to/2014/03/ccp-x-softs-ghost-line-beyond-coach-jacket/

>>8756691
is tyvek shit? i was reading online that it was durable. im just afraid im going to buy a UEG parka and its not going to last long?

>>8771361
oldmancore

>>8771361
Grandadcore

>>8770340
It's not a rational fear just because you say it is.

>>8770136
Nah I'll disagree, I'm the engineer guy. Posting during break at the moment. Since I'm somewhat apart of the distribution chain of tech wear, where I process the raw materials, I can recall that there's always demand for textile. It's one of the most waste products on earth. Cotton is expensive now, and it's been that way since China had a shortage a few years back (if I can recall correctly). Cheap plastic nylon and polyester clothes will still be here for a while since we got a huge reserve of hydrocarbons to process in the US.

If anything, when reserve do slow down in 100 years, the alternative energy scene (biofuels/wind/solar/nuclear) will take off and we'll probably focus our remaining hydrocarbon reserves for jet/space fuel. We might even have the capacity to grow our own plastics source as well. If anything, we'll see a shift into durable and nanotech wear. That's where I want to get my masters at in the next few years and focus on nano/polymer materials

>>8771724
Also buy American Apparel, $APP when it's below $0.85, sell when it >$1.15

Pic is my trade a few months back

>>8771724
I am wrong about cotton, it's actually at the cheapest it's been in while, see the cotton ETF ticket $BAL or the cotton commodity to see cotton price trend

It's actually nearing the historical 5-year low

Basically meaning cheap cotton

>>8771224

German eBay, "bundeswehr pilotenstiefel"

>>8771737
>gibberish
what in the fuck does any of this mean?

;_;

Are there any lighter shoes for winter than leather boots (OP's chart) that are wearable in an urban environment?
Looking for something with a more clean look (like chelseas but maybe with a tighter grip on your feet) not those "hiking boots" with huge soles.

>>8771448
Not thay other guy but it's a rational fear because tbe shit has hit the fan several times in human history and humans as a species and society have changed little to none at all beyond the surface.

>>8748586
w2c techwear balaclava

>>8772798
nike

>>8772798

Icebreaker 260

>>8772798
Mother Base

>>8772798
http://www.revitusa.com/en-us/products/FAR033/#/products/FAR033

Gore-Tex. Drapes over your jacket neck.

>>8775492
lol nice burka

>>8748586
Figure this is the closest thread for it.

http://store.tripleaughtdesign.com/Apparel/Sweaters-Hoodies/Praetorian-Hoodie

Should I go for it?
Want the grey colour.

>>8763155
>not wearing something that will blend in
Cmon man.

>>8763933
>>8763938
>>8763944
>>8763947
>>8763955
>>8763964
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>>8763968
>>8763974

Can we have more magazine scans?

>>8776750

>>8775494
How about a Nike burqa and a Gore-Tex turban?

http://www.podebal.com/motycka/index.php/content/text/conversetext

>>8778318
Surprised Gore licensed this.

>>8778324
that's dope

So explain this techwear thing to me, you try to dress like a blade runner reject, right?

>>8778347
fuccboi pls go

>>8778478
most of the stuff in this thread looks pretty retarded, and what doesn't look retarded looks likes regular clothes

So what are you doing differently from fuccbois?

>>8778506
Well tell me, what are *you* doing differently from fuccbois?

I'm not saying that to be pejorative. Knowing what you like and how you dress will help me explain techwear to you.

>>8778633
I like the bulkym functionalist look, and don't particularly care about the latest technologies etc, but like strong aesthetics
I clothing that looks good and works, I don't like the modern "swag" look nor the stupid tryhard shit on /fa/, I like some of the things in this thread, but stuff like
>>8757839
>>8762921
Seems stupidly over complicated and impractical to me, with no perceivable benefits over more easily available choices that can be found anywhere

Currently wearing milsurp jacket, Cheap off white shirt and black undershirt with Jeans and ammo boots

If I have to take a bag I usually just carry a black generic backpack or if I'm moving tons of shit an old NI patrol pack that I died black to get rid of the camoflauge patterning

>>8778695
*Bulky
Second line should have like after I

Anyone know about down ultralights?

I want to make a winter wardrobe that has outwear like wool jacket - down jacket - waterproof jacket

>>8778318
fucking white people

>>8749674
w2c?

>>8781386
The correct term is honkey

>>8772798
cop or not?

http://amzn.com/B00G4PR9Q8

Bumping 'cuz the other techwear threads are shit.

>>8748642
Is this /out/?

In a previous thread a few weeks ago a couple of people were talking about the Aether fall line and wondering whether it is worth the price.

I recently received mine, and I'll say that it's about $100 too expensive, but it's still bloody amazing. Fits beautifully and feels great.

>>8785215
What did you get?

>>8783946
cop then post in waywt

>>8783946
oh fuck i was just about to post asking for something like this
ty anon