/fa/ - Fashion

What's better, naked and famous or Japan blue?

I have a worn in pair of APC PS and the thighs are still too tight, what do I do to stretch them out more. thx

>>8667605
if after a month of wear they are still too tight, then they're just too tight.

if the waist is good but the thighs are too tight, then try a different cut/style/brand (measure the thighs on them and try to find something in a larger thigh).

>>8667617
fuck thanks anon. Guess I need to lose weight

Where can you buy jeans for petite ladies? I've worn out my last pair, and looked around but there seems to be nothing. Closest i've gotten to are Levi's petite range (can't decide on what fit if i'm going to buy them though)

>>8667630
lots of places sell womens jeans... do you mean raw and/or selvedge?

here are 5 options:
http://www.rawrdenim.com/2014/04/raw-denim-options-for-women/

>>8667663
I know, just not many sell in my size. I'm only around 5'0-5'1 (~155 cms) so my inseam is <30 inches, and most places sell ~33 inches. Feels bad.

>>8667602
JB

>>8667630
Get a tailor to take your measurements and you can safely order online.

>>8667696
i have similar problem
i'm 6'5" and most places only carry 34in inseam, i need at least 36 or my ankles show when i sit down.

>>8667703
I have my measurements, they never match anything I order though.
>>8667704
Ah, I see. I have the problem of stepping on my pants, so I've resorted to skirts and shorts in the winter until I can find pants that could fit me

>>8667602
Japan blue for standard indigo/white denim, naked and famous for unique fabrics.

>>8667605
buy a new pair, they aren't going to stretch anymore
>>8667704
3sixteen offers a 36 inch inseam on their denim. many other Japanese brands do too

Thinking about buying some N&F jeans. I need some help. I don't really wear skinny jeans because it feels uncomfortable to me (big legs from all this jogging). Should I get slim or tapered (''weird'' on their site).

>>8667732
if you can find them in your waist size, but they're too long, just find a decent tailor and get them hemmed.

>>8667799
yeah i have a pair of rogue territory stantons.
their site says 37in inseam.. the pair i got is closer to 35.75, but good enough and they fit well.

>>8667908
i say weird guy, they have the most room in the thighs

>>8667937
Thans, will get this one! Would you recommend me buying it on Ebay (http://www.ebay.de/itm/Naked-and-Famous-Weird-Guy-Indigo-Selvedge-NWT-29-38-220-/151259082952)? I live in Germany and it would be cheaper for me to buy it this way than in some overpriced store. Also what about fit? I normally wear 36, should I just get 36 one or smaller/bigger?

yo raw denim god. what u think about dior raws?

are acne max cash tts? I wear size 32 N&F skinnyguys (which are 33' in the waist) should I go w/ 32' or 33' w/ the acne's?

also I noticed that the stay cash has 5% polysester 1% lycra compared with just the cash which is 2% elastine. does this mean one will stretch more than the other? are the fits slightly different?

are uniqlo jeans on the same level as levis? need some extra jeans

Anyone have a comparison of Rogue Territory Stantons and SK? I was originally gonna grab the Stantons, but I realized that the SKs aren't all that skinny and might flatter my body type a bit better. (hungry skeleton/skinnyfat) I have absolutely no problem with 510s and other skinny pants, and the SKs are a lot bigger than 510s. I just worry about SKs making boots look like clown shoes on me.
Any thoughts?

>>8668157
I think Uniqlo jeans are a better value. There's less to choose from in terms of fit (everything is low rise), but the fabrics are good and the sizing isn't all over the fucking place like Levi's.

>>8667696
Getting a pair of jeans hemmed costs less than $10. Any tailor (even one that isn't very skilled) should be able to do it without an issue.

Would it be worth it (cost-wise) to buy a few square yards of raw denim fabric online and other things (zipper, buttons, etc) for the purpose of paying a tailor to make a pair of jeans for you?

Which jeans to cop under £100/$150

Have owned Nudies and Burberry and while I like my Burberry jeans, £175 is more than I want to spend regularly on a pair of jeans.

Are April77 any good? The fit looks odd on their model.

>>8668226
Luxire does custom selvedge raws for under $200. You could source all the materials yourself, but you would also need a really good tailor to make the endeavor worth it imo.

>>8668225
Yeah, but a lot of tailors can't do selvedge and fuck it up.

While we are on the topic, (not him but you know), anybody in Colorado know any good tailors?

small album of my diors http://imgur.com/a/AK1Ae?gallery

I don't see why /fa/ jerks about them so much lol. They're just like any other raws out there if not worse than the real high tiers (momo,sam,ih,jpb) - you're really paying for name. If you want the Dior look then just buy apc, they're about the same quality + they are essentially the same cut. Hedi Slimane modeled the 19Cm after the New Standard and 17.5 by the petite

>>8668031
very overhyped, essentially the same as APCs. they are overpriced because of the 'dior' name.

>>8668231
japan blue from denimio will be around $120 with free shipping
http://www.denimio.com/bottom.html

>>8667068
yea i know, i got these for 120 so its cool. first pair of denim too so yea

>>8667096
i agree on them not lookin good. I don't know how to "fix" stacks so im i guess im stuck with these for now. im planning on getting them tapered but i dont know if its a good idea. is it possible for me to "fix" em?

thanks for input guys

>>8668290
Thoughts on Our Legacy Raw Denim? Made in Italy, Japanese 12OZ selvedge?

>>8667524
anyone own the JB0406? What's the cut/color like? Looking for my first pair of raws that have a slim/taper fit. I'm usually a 31 waist but I have decently sized thighs.

>>8668290

where's some good sizing charts for Japan Blue JB0202, looking into getting some but from what I'm told/see the sizing charts on Denimio are way off

>>8668422
seem fairly basic/boring, similar to the APC PS in terms of fit

>>8668443
http://www.okayamadenim.com/products/japan-blue-jb0202-slim

>>8668427
they are a fairly standard indigo/white denim but have the nice japan blue fabric. they are cut similarly to the unbranded 101. they are a great starter pair.

>>8668475

>37.8 inseam with the one wash

Jesus fucking Christ, that's like 10" over my natural inseam, luckily everything else looks like it should fit pretty well. Is there any recommended place to send them in to tailor or should I just double cuff them? Or should I just get raw and do a soak to make them shrink? I had the UB301 before which are a 34" inseam and that worked well enough, my natural inseam is like 28"

>>8668552

Oh, I guess also expanding on that, is raw + worn bathtub soak recommended? When I got my UB301 like 2 or 3 years ago I just wore them pure raw and let them be starchy until they started fitting nicely (although being straight fit they ended up looking like bootcuts which is why I'm wanting some new ones lol)

>>8668475
Thanks! Also mirin the 3sixteen st100x. Pretty much narrowed it between these two.

>>8667922
>>8668225
>>8668249

How do they look after being hemmed? Anyone have an example?

>>8668562
This is denim(fuck)head bullshit, don't listen to that. Soak them normally

>>8668716

What's soaking them normally though? Just soak them in the tub when I get them? In that case should I just do the 1 wash?

>>8668217
alright thanks now i just needa decide between the slim tapered stretches or just the normal slims

Just tell me what to buy I need some raws dude :(

>>8668249
A simple hem (with no taper) wouldn't affect the selvedge at all.

>>8669001
Really? Maybe I am thinking of tapering then.
For me, if I hemmed I would probably need a taper anyways. Thankfully I don't have to go through that because usually at 5'11 the extra few inches of material isn't a big deal.

what do you think of naked and famous left hand twill, deep indigo and candy weft?
also, do naked and famous jeans stretch a lot? I know they're 100% cotton, so they shouldn't stretch, but sometimes I've found some used pairs that were said to have stretched up to 4 sizes... how is this possible?

>>8668743
yeah just fill up your tub full of cold or hot water, and submerge them completely for an hour or so. soap is optional.

>>8669099
you can tell the tailor to taper the jeans from the outseam instead of the inseam and the selvedge will be preserved.

>>8669205
all three of those jeans are decent for their price. the twisted candy weft ones will be pretty unique once they fade. also the sellers of those used pairs are dirty liars. it's impossible for a pair of denim to stretch more than a size and a half unless it's APCs which use shitty cotton that stretches an abnormal amount.

>>8668552
just find a tailor near you with some good yelp reviews and take them in to get hemmed (shorten the inseam).

>>8668562
soaking them wont make the inseam shrink, it makes the legs/waist tighter (if they shrink at all). but normal wear will loosen them up again.

soaking = washing basically

>>8670590
Soaking will make your jeans shrink (especially if they're unsanforized) in all dimensions to varying degrees. Usually only on the first soak, and mostly in the waist and inseam.
lrn2denim

I bought a pair of these Levi's 510 Commuters 1 month ago to the day and haven't washed them. They fit great and seem really durable. They're also coated in some sort of antibacterial shit so they don't smell at all. Although the tags indicated to wash them as few times as possible, which makes me confused whether or not they're considered raw denim.

My only concern is that they're starting to loosen up in the waist and seat already. I'm worried that when I wash them the great colouring will fade and the antibacterial coating will be gone. Are there any raw secret tips to tightening up a pair of jeans that have never been washed? Should I have done a "first soak" in these?

>>8670645
Jeans fade the most when you wear them for a long time before washing. Soaking in warm or hot water will help them to shrink back to their original size, and shouldn't affect the color much at all.

>>8670645
levis always seem to stretch out the most AND fastest of any jeans i've worn.

just wash them every 3 or 4 weeks. put them in a washing machine on delicate or just soak them in a tub for half an hour.. always hang dry denim.

detergent is option (i prefer to use a little woolite dark)

did levi change the 508 to 522?
why?

>>8670753
Seems that way. Or it could be a resurrection of the 520 fit. Or a combination of both.

>>8670758
Oh, and as for why: I would guess that "slim tapered" fits are becoming more and more popular, so Levi's is trying to cash in on that.

>>8669639
You want them to taper from the inseam if you want the selvedge to be preserved, you don't seem like a denim god to me...

>>8670766
Seems like he talks a lot, but doesn't know more than any other guy who's read a rawrdenim article.
Tripfags will be tripfags, I guess.

saved this picture from a thread on here a long time ago. this is my ideal denim fit -- right now i'm wearing a shitty pair of the uniqlo slim straight selvedge, and i'd like to upgrade soon. what cuts should i be looking at for this kind of fit? i have a pretty small waist, so brands like n&f that offer cuts with waists that are 28 - 29 inches would be ideal.

>>8670785
Those look like slim- or skinny-straight. N&F Skinny Guy might be similar.

>>8670758
What was the 520?

I want to get these Luther '47s, but I have no experience with unsanforized denim. I wear a 27 in APC NS and N&F Weird Guys, and a 29 in Uniqlo's current line of selvedge jeans.
Do you guys think a 28 would work? Or should I go with 30? They are apparently not vanity sized.

>>8670590
this actually isn't true. denim will shrink in length and width when it's washed or soaked. the amount of shrinkage depends on whether or not the denim is sanforized and the temperature of the water and amount of agitation during the soak or wash.


>>8670766
>>8670782
did i say outseam? my bad. but damn. I can't make a single mistake before you fucking assclowns jump down my throat. I spend some of my free time on this board helping people with their questions and you two are... doing what exactly? do you honestly have nothing better to do than to insult me?

>>8670854
i appreciate your posts RDG

>>8670854
I apologize for my cattiness. I actually try to help people here whenever I can, but I've never used a tripcode so you probably won't have noticed.

raw denim is a scam

posted this in fuccboi general, shouldve posted here first:
What raw denim fit would be best for someone short and skinny? (5'7", 120lbs)

I'm leaning towards the nudie tape teds in the picture only because the super skinny naked and famous look a bit baggy.

Am I wrong?

>>8671334
nudie is shit for the price.

try some 3sixteens or rogue territory SK, get them hemmed or roll them twice (they have long inseams).

>>8671353
copping naked and famous would be a mistake?

>>8671358
its decent entry level, but i'd only get it for the unique stuff.
if you want basic indigo selvedge raws, get some 3sixteen, rogue territory, or even japan blue.
check out blue owl workshop for any of those.

>>8671373
alright thanks man

>>8671353
Even though they do blow out pretty fast,
Nudie does offer free repairs, also free repair kits and guides.
(Provided you actually have some nudie jeans)

>wearing jeans
Ishygddt

>>8670854
i appreciate you man. pls dont leave :(

>>8671641
still not worth it imo.
you can get better raw and/or selvedge denim in similar cuts for similar prices that won't fall apart nearly as fast.

Thinking about ordering a pair of 510s, how much should I allow for shrinkage? I wear 32s in slim straight, should I maybe go to 34s?

>>8672722
order 33's online, amazon has better prices than instore

>>8672749
Shame they don't ship here. And Levi's AU store has them at $120

;_;

what should I cop between n&f left hand twill and broken twill?
also, can I have the jeans hemmed before they are shipped or it would be better to try them on me before?

>>8673142
Left hand twill I heard is comfy as fuck.
If you order from Blue Owl, they will hem for free before an order, and you can ship them back and have them hemmed after you receive them. Might be interesting to you.
A lot of places won't do chain stitching, so it is better to take advantage of the free service blueowl or another place provides since they DO chain stich

I'm thinking about grabbing a pair of UB101's.
I have a 511 31w 32l that fits pretty good, although when i measure it now it's like 33" in the waist.
Is the best size for the 101's 30 or 31?
thanks guise and based raw denim god

plz help

>>8673508
Just measure according to blue owl and compare the measurements on their website. They stock Unbranded.
In general, I believe Levi's stretch a size, so you might consider sizing down a waist size on unbranded depending on how you feel.
Of course, with most brands you usually can't go wrong with going tts. Just grab the size that fits your waist and wear a belt. One size usually doesn't make a difference anywhere else save waist.

hi effay. I'm considering copping these Edwin ED-88s. I wear 31" size jeans, should I go for 30 x 32 or 31 x 32?

link - http://www.endclothing.com/brands/edwin/edwin-ed-88-super-slim-jean.html

>>8668194
I wouldn't go above 6" on the leg opening

>>8674954
>6"
Dam those are skinny jeans at that point m8

>>8673804
30x32

http://vimeo.com/28950523

^^^For those who ever wondered about distressing your raws/selvedge raws.

if stuff like japan blue and naked and famous are entry level, what's a really good raw denim brand for people looking for even better jeans?

have gotten 3 pairs of naked and famous in the last 2 years. looking to up my game.

What do I do if I skate in new raw jawnz, cause I sweated a lot and I don't know if I should freeze em already cause I only wore em once

where do i get jeans/pants tailored? what do i ask the tailor for if i want them to fit skinny? do i just give them a certain size opening? ive never had shit altered before

>>8676257
don't freeze them it doesn't actually work. just use ferbreeze

>>8676257
febreeze them or air dry them if they smell.
wash them if they're dirty.

freezing doesn't do shit. you're jeans are always going to have germs, but its going to be mostly benign (maybe you have a cold or diarrhea?)

http://gizmodo.com/5857596/sorry-levis-freezing-your-jeans-will-not-ungross-them

>>8676266
most tailors can alter 3 things on jeans (use yelp to find one near you, if you're lucky the reviews will mention jeans)

if the legs are too long, get them hemmed.
if the leg opening is to wide, get them tapered.
if the waist is too big, have it taken in.

that's about all you can do.
still best to find a good pair were you like the fit/cut before altering it.

>>8671266

why

>>8671334

those are beautiful

>>8676291
thank you for the info

>>8676203
3Sixteen has some nice cuts and their famous shadow selvedge. PBJ(my personal favorite) has super slubby and neppy denim. Momotaro has a very nice fabric, more uniform than PBJ but decently hairy and a few different colored wefts. their Blue Owl collaborations are very sought after. Sugar Cane has some really cool half cotton half sugar cane denim, but they only make repro cuts. The Flat Head has denim that makes amazing vertical streaking/falling fades. ONI has a nice super tapered cut and their jeans are probably the slubbiest around. Iron Heart is the king of heavyweight denim.

>>8676347
don't feed the troll

>>8676413
what's special about shadow selvedge?
isn't it just dark indigo?

also, why is slubby sought after? isn't that just inconsistencies in the denim? (is neppy the same thing as slubby?)

i actually don't know these and want to.

>>8676462
people like the shadow selvedge because of the cuts that it comes in and the construction quality and minimalist detailing of 3sixteen jeans. And among raw denim brands, indigo/black isn't exactly uncommon, it's just a good example of it done very well.

slub is inconsistencies in the denim. some of the yarns are thicker or thinner than the rest. Nep is when small knots of the warp yarns poke out on the surface of the denim.

people like slub because no two pair of jeans will have the same exact slub patterns, and it's just another small characteristic that sets raw denim apart from projectile loomed standard denim. here's a good picture to illustrate the difference between the two.

>>8676486
sorry nep is when the weft yarns poke out, not the warp ones.

and slub is an irregularity in the denim, but it doesn't affect the structural integrity or durability of it. so it's not negative.

>>8676486
>>8676490
ok cool thanks

does nep effect the structural quality?

also.. difference between warp, weft, etc?
really helpful RDG

>>8676544
nope! you can even pull the nep out with your fingers if it bothers you.

this diagram will help explain the difference for warp and weft. Warp is the fibers that are traditionally on the outside of the denim, and the weft is the underside. Weft is usually bleached or left natural white, but when it's dyed different colors like black, red, or deep indigo the result is jeans like Naked & famous' red weft, the PBJ XX-012 and the 3sixteen shadow selvedge.

>>8667630
railcar does custom jeans for like around $200 I think. he uses cone denim

>>8675403
cool, that's what I thought. thanks m8.

So I'm kind of new here and just to /fa/ in general, I've been looking through a lot of the resources and shit but I honestly don't get it. Can someone tell me why I should get raws? I only really wear jeans once or twice a week and thats usually because they're easy to move in and tougher than chinos. I wear them when I'm doing out doorsy shit or helping a friend move furniture or shit like that.

Why raws? How come theres hardly any recommendations for denim other than raws?

best place to cop good jeans in Sydney?

>>8667524
Hey jean people. I bought a new pair of really dark blue WeSC jeans. How do I stop them from bleeding everywhere? I don't really mind about the whole fade thing so I'm just gonna give them a cold wash, but what else can or should I do?

>>8677014
Incu sells APC on Queen Street

Anyone want to buy a pair of sz 27 Ande Whall 21oz Cobras?

Bought em earlier this year and they no longer fit.

>>8676486
>>8676557
Also worth mentioning the core of the warp threads. While the weft adds some subtle differences from the beginning, fading the exterior indigo dye on the warp threads down to their white (and other colored) cores is a much more amusing effect.

>>8677408
so they dye the warp one color, then dye indigo over that??
how does the first color not turn indigo too?

also if it fades from indigo to the warp color, does that second color eventually fad to the original white too?

>>8676486
can you have jeans that are both slubby and neppy?

>>8677457
The indigo dye can't penetrate that deep, which is why most jeans fade to white because the core is undyed but other dyes (synthetic I think) like that rainbow effect can penetrate completely.

tate & yoko still have some rainbow n&f...

http://shop.tateandyoko.com/collections/naked-and-famous-weirdguy/products/naked-famous-weird-guy-rainbow-core-selvedge

>>8677489
I'm waiting to see how the fades on the twisted candy weft will be... :)

>>8677497
so far i haven't seen anything that impressing with the rainbow... it seems to just fade all over, i was hoping for some really nice honeycomb rainbow lines but we just didnt get that

>>8677497
Yes but the twisted candy is only the inside weft that is dyed, not the warp cores like the other rainbow. Some of it will show through, but otherwise nothing really to see.

>>8677511
oh yes I imagine it will be this way, but I actually would prefer some little, subtle "candy" fades... :) something like the rainbow core fades would be too gaudy for me, I would have preferred something like >>8677502 hoped for :/

i have a pair of n&f weird guys left hand twill.
if i wanted something with a similar fit in japan blue or 3sixteen, which cut would i get?

raw denim god best trip of /fa/
(on par with /fa/scist faggot)

hey friends. any idea on where I can cop apc's petit standard in a washed black, tagged size 29?

>>8677638
Just check the fits on blue owl and compare them on that website. I sound like a shill considering how many times I say that, but I can never stress how consistent they measure.
I don't know much about weird guys, so I can't really help too much with that.

>>8677489
Oh anon why would you post this I want them so bad but I don't think the weird guy fit is flattering for skellys and I also need to be saving my money

>>8677807
just get these then...

http://www.blueowl.us/product/naked-and-famous-skinny-guy-14oz-twisted-candy-weft-selvedge-in-indigo/

>>8677756
:^)

>>8677764
not sure if they're washed black, but here http://shop.nordstrom.com/s/a-p-c-petit-standard-skinny-fit-jeans-black/3585359?origin=category-personalizedsort&contextualcategoryid=0&fashionColor=&resultback=458&cm_sp=personalizedsort-_-browseresults-_-1_1_B

>>8677638
japan blue's tapered cut is similar to the weird guy, except it is about .25 of an inch slimmer in every measurement.
3sixteen's ST cut is most similar to the weird guy, it is half an inch slimmer in the thigh and knee and .15 of an inch tighter at the hem.

>>8677868
I'm kind of waiting on fade pictures since the weft is what is rainbowy, so I have my doubts on how it will fade.

>>8678322
is ST the stanton?

>>8678322
cool, there it is but too bad my local nordstrom's is out of stock. thanks l'homme.

>>8678524
just buy it online they even have free shipping ya dingdong

>>8678929
believe me, I thought about it! I lift, have thunder thighs and wanna try 'em before committing. looks my local nordstrom's haz the petit new standard, so I'll roll through and see what's up.

Thanks basedrawdenimgod

>>8667524
I have huge leg because i do powerlifting. My thighs measure at 26" and my waist is a 34 occasionally a 36. I really want a pair of raw denim but i dont know what to buy. All the places i have gone have been like. Nigga you fucked.

planning on hemming these, how much do you guys think should i take out?

>>8680435
find a pair that fits your thighs and get them tailored, imo

>>8680583
2" if you want to still have a little stacking, more if not

>>8680679
thanks brah

though if i get 2 inches off, won't it be too short after i wash em?

>>8680842
are they unsanforized or sanforized? if they're sanforized they'll only shrink about a quarter to a half inch. what is your natural inseam, and what is the current inseam of your jawnz?

>>8680869
i forgot the actual measurement lel
these are apc ps sz 29

>>8681023
ok. they won't shrink much in the wash. i say 1.5in or 2in.

>>8681074
alright thanks c:

>>8680583
i say don't hem.
just do a double cuff.

jeans look like shit without zeri stacking or honeycombing

>>8681139
zeri? the fuck. i meant "any"

>>8681139
i tried double cuffing , it looks odd. im not trying to get rid of all stacks.

im actually thinking of getting it tapered. might be a bad idea though. might just get a PNS or something

>>8676557
If you have any knowledge on the difference between Japan Blue and PJB can you let me know if the difference in quality is significant? I am debating copping PJB but if Japan Blue is comparable I would much rather cop two pairs instead of one pair.

Damn, I really wanna cop these in the tapered fit. It looks perfect. Right smack in the middle of a skinny jean and a slim straight jean.
Shame I won't have any spare money to drop on denim until next month, since that is when I've decided to cop new denim. Oh well.

>>8681350
i got some
Japan Blue 16.5oz "Monster" Tapered Sanforized Raw Denim Selvedge - Model JB0412
in size 32
if you interested

>>8681370
Completely different pairs

>>8681370
why is it called "monster"
because it's 16.5oz? that doesn't seem "monster"

>>8681320
PBJ is definitely superior. their fabric is more slubby and neppy and has more character. Other than the denim itself being a bit different the differences between the two aren't very different. If you'd rather have two pairs go with the JBs. However if you go on denimio.com the price of the PBJs and JBs is much cheaper than anywhere else on the internet and they offer free shipping. Japan Blues will be about $120 and PBJs about $220.

>>8681350
they should be doing another run of these either this month or next

>>8681649
how accurate are the measurements on denimio?
their japan blue measurements differ a bit from blue owl...

>>8676761
/r/ing the original pic from the fades example
I think it's the one when he's holding a peace sign behind his back

>>8681675
Bump

Anybody have experience with the APC PS 'stretch indigo'? Do they stretch out as much as regular APCs?

should obese guys even bother with raws?

i'm 5'10" and 250 lbs, wear size 36 jeans but idk if i should get some raws... would it even be possible for a fatasfatass like myself to get stacking or some decent fades?

>inb4 lose weight

i have tried (i actually went from 245 to 185 one time, stayed at 185 for a year) but i had hella loose skin so i just decided to give up

>>8682707
the problem would be finding a pair of raws with wide legs.
i don't know of any good brands that actually make jeans wider than a standard straight cut, so you probably won't even find any that fit.

So, I bought my first pair before I started working on my friend's ranch. In Texas, it is too hot to wear 14oz, so I bought a 8oz pair.

My question is: how will the low weight effect fades? Will my time at the ranch effect my jawns in the long term, despite no fades yet?

>>8682707
you can get surgery to get rid of the excess skin. I advise you to lose weight, but not because you might not fit into jeans, but because it's really bad for your health and shortens your lifespan. being fat isn't just un-/fa/, it's also really dangerous. if you've done it before, you can do it again.

if you insist on not trying to lose weight, look at this I guess. if you can figure out your thigh measurement, put that in and press search.

http://scout.rawrdenim.com/denim?utf8=%E2%9C%93&min_price=0&max_price=500&waist=36&sanforized=none&selvedge=none&min_denim_weight=5&max_denim_weight=32

>>8681675
they just updated their website, and I have no reason to doubt the accuracy of their measurements. their stock of PBJs may have different measurements from the stock that blue owl has.
>>8683262
the lighter the denim, the less rigid the denim is. less rigid denim fades slower. if you're doing lots of activity on the ranch in your denim they will wear out faster. I suggest getting a second pair and rotating between the two to prolong the life of both pairs.

Can't decide between the st100x or the JB0401. Any advice? The JB are cheaper but almost every google image of the 100x look superb. I know what size to get if I choose either. Just can't pull the trigger on one.

Posting again because it's gorgeous

bumpan

>>8683458
>rdg the only trip to care about the health of some neckbeard on 4chan

y r u the best trip :')

>>8677868
>>8684283
are these the same jeans?

>>8681370
Im interested m8, Im a size 32. What does the monster mean btw?

>>8677004
Bumping this question.

>>8677004
I'm about to buy my first pair of raws tomorrow, but I've found the idea of raws appealing for a long time. I usually wear my jeans til they fall apart, and the idea of the fading reflecting the wearer really gets me going. Plus I think pre-faded jeans look ridicilous

>>8677502
You aren't trying hard enough

How skinny is the Unbranded 04 Skinny Fit Black Selvedge, too skinny for a guy with large thighs?

And, have they stopped making this model? The 28 waist is the only size avaliable http://theunbrandedbrand.com/collections/all/products/ub104-skinny-fit-black-selvedge

>>8685207
No. I forget the second pair, but hte first pair is that new candy weft from NF

>>8685690
Measure yourself (or even better a pair of pants that fits you) using blue owl measurement guide. It is great for this stuff.

>>8686366
All right thanks

>>8677004
from a purely functional standpoint, because they last longer than the jeans you would get from american eagle.

from an aesthetic one, because they are made with better materials, uniquely conform to your body, and can end up looking really fucking cool after a bit of wear. pic related, these are the PBJ XX-012s which have an insanely slubby fabric and an indigo-dyed weft.

>>8685224
as far as i know the 'monster' doesn't mean anything special, it's just a cool name they added to it. 16.5oz is not exceptionally heavy denim, but most denim is 14.5oz or less.

>>8685463
That doesn't look good. It's just fading everywhere instead of cool rainbow whiskering and honey comb lines.

>>8684283
What are these?

>>8687328

ya pure shit. who sells the rainbow stuff? instead of the rainbow being an accent it is the statement.

>>8686759
Do you post in the raw denim subreddit?

>>8687337
It's naked and famous :
>>8677489

>>8687330

>tfw someone asks the question you were thinking so you don't have to :}

>>8670785
which Iron Heart model is this?

>>8687330
http://www.blueowl.us/product/naked-and-famous-weird-guy-13oz-hand-dyed-weft-limited-edition/

>>8687339
yes

>>8687457
How do you think that will fade? More like the rainbows all over? or will it be cool colorful lines and whiskering /honeycombing?

>>8687468
honesly i'm not sure. if i had to guess i'd say it would be much more muted than the pictures earlier in the thread. and the colorful lines would be horizontally across the denim as opposed to vertically.

>>8687468
It's dyed weft, not dyed warp, so just like you can see faintly the stripes through the front, but it will still fade to white on top of it.

>>8687770

so will it reveal the desirable fades or what. sorry you knowledge is lost on a pleb like me.

>>8687777
look at this pic:
>>8676557
when you get fades, you see the warp yarn (after the indigo has fadded way), not the weft yarn.

so no, these will still have white fades.
you get colored fades when the warp core is colored.

like the n&f rainbow. the weft is white, the warp core is rainbow, and over that it's indigo. as the indigo fades, the rainbow shows.
like here:
>>8685463
this doesn't look great though, because everything seems to be fading to rainbow.

look at these fades:
>>8676257
those are good honeycomb fades (the white).
imagine if the white there was rainbow, that would look amazing.

>>8687804
>those are good honeycomb fades (the white).
>imagine if the white there was rainbow, that would look amazing.

yup thats what I'm looking for. honeycomb rainbow not overwhelming craptastic fade. I've seen it before. are you aware of any that fade like that?

>>8687857
Not rainbow, but some n&f stuff like red warp core, dirty fade (brown warp core)... Basically single color warp cores. Some have been like the rainbows where or faded all over though.
Part is going to be the weight, better fades at 15oz+, part is going to be how it's worn, handled, and washed.

What should I look for in a raw denim jacket?

Are acid washed jackets back yet?

is there anything similar fitting to 513s that comes in non faded black?

>>8683560
last bump

>>8688508
>>8683560
if you've never had raws before, get the japan blue.
otherwise, go with your gut.

>>8677459
can you have jeans that are both slubby and neppy?

>>8688058
no, now fuck off

has anyone tried 511 commuters?

are they're more durable than normal Levis?

Are Levi's acceptable value in yurop too? At around 100 usd for a pair of 511 there might be a better brand to look out for.

>>8668249
Hemming doesn't affect the slevedge. If you are worried about roping it may cost more to get them chainstitched and you will have to find a place with a union special. ie self edge.

>>8668290
How are diors the same as APC? the 15.5 cut is way different then anything APC makes, the jeans are made in France and have better overall construction as well as hardware. On top of the the fabric is quite a bit nicer then APS offerings in my opinion. Sure the price doesn't scale equally with the quality but saying dior is the same as APC is bull shit

>>8668562
just soak them. Wearing your raws in the bath is some voodoo shit. If you wear raws well they are wet you will get some crazy knee bags.

>>8668743
Normal soak is in hot water. Turn jeans inside out fully submerge for 20-40 minutes then hang dry. once dry they are good to wear.

>>8669639
an hour is overkill for unsanfornized all the shrinkage will be out within 40 minutes.

You mean inseam not outseam. Tapering from the outseam is where the selvedge in and will fuck with the selvedge

>>8670590
soaking unsanfornized denim will shrink the inseam 7-10% depending on the fabric. Soaking sanfornized denim will shrink the inseam 1-3%

Raw denim god, i'm calling you out! How to get soft fades on my Unbranded 21oz skinny? I'm not a fan of the major contrasting sharp fades... how to get soft smooth fades??

>>8683458
Lighter denim doesn't necessarily guarantee that the fabric will be less ridged. The tension when it is weaved as well as the material 98% cotton 2% elastane vs 100% cotton will also affect how stiff the jeans are.

>>8689805
Not raw denim god, but if you don't want sik contrast fades, soak them more often. Give them a soak when you get them, give them a light soak once a month and maybe at the 3 month mark use some soap.

>>8689660
cheap monday might be better

>>8689805
wash often for more even fades. Super high contrast fades generally come from jeans that are heavily worn and rarely washed

>>8689840
>>8689849
Thanks guys, this won't shorten the life of my denim though right? I bought them because they're supposed to last long... but im not into the high contrasting fades because at the end of the day, its such a high contrast that it can look like it's been artificially lasered on :/

>>8689887
Washing every 2-3 weeks will actually help keep the denim intact. Heavy wear without washing leads to crotch blowouts.

>>8689161
Yes. PBJs are like that

>>8689641
levis commuters are coated in teflon or some other hydrophobic compound that makes liquids slide right off of them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kax68AGEvBc they are also a stretch fabric for easier movement. I'm not sure if they last longer than regular levis though.

>>8689660
definitely not worth 100usd imo

>>8689762
the 15.5cm is only a slightly more tapered version of the PNS by about half an inch. the 19cm is literally a carbon copy of the PS. look up the measurements if you don't believe me.

as far as construction and hardware I can't comment on those because I don't have a pair of either of them.

>>8689805
hand wash them or soak them about once a month or so. that will make sure that indigo dye is regularly removed from the denim, creating low contrast fades instead of high contrast ones. that doesn't affect the durability of them, and in fact will make them stronger because the minimal shrinkage from soaks and washes strengthens the cotton fibers and removes abrasive dirt particles.

My Luther '47s just came in the mail. Nearly perfect fit as is, but they're unsanforized. Size 28/32. Should I take a chance and see how they shrink, or return them for a 30/32? They don't make a 29 waist, sadly.

>>8689978
For reference: shrinkage on a pair of 501 STFs.
The Luther's site says that the waist will shrink 1-2 inches after washing, but will stretch out again with wear. My main concern is shrinkage through the leg.

>>8690003
More reference.

>>8690003
lol they look like shit in both pictures

>>8690031
Cool opinion; don't care.
Does anyone have some valid input?

>>8689920
Ah nice one!
>>8689959
Awesome, thankyou! Another question (if you don't mind) Will this constant soaking/washing make my stacks stack more softly too? These 21oz jeans stack like shit because they're just too stiff to "stack" as such, they just crease is weird and awful ways! I would do turn ups so I don't get stacking, but to be really honest, 1. Turn ups on heavyweight selvedge is like having a bagel on your ankle, 2. They just don't look right with a lot of footwear and 3. I got a lil bit of leg twist and it drives me insane because the selvedge isn't even. haha.

THANKYOU! <3 <3 <3

>>8690043
I don't know lots about denim, but I'll have a go. From what I know... They will shrink about 2-3inches. (also means you can only have a single cuff if you want them like your pic) They leg (width) and waist will shrink a bit, but they also have pressure applied to them from your body, so will stretch back out. If you got a size bigger and they shrunk to your true size, you will realize that after a while, they will start to become loose.

But I know fuck all so don't trust me.

>>8689978
they'll probably end up shrinking too much and become uncomfortable. exchange them for a size larger, and then when you get the new pair, soak them in the hottest water you can find to shrink them down to similar measurements to the pair you have now.

>>8690075
if you want them to stack properly, you might want to iron them out flat and then put them on. that should allow the natural stacks to form as you wear them.

>>8690003
nice ass puta

>>8690153
>>8690105
>conflicting advice
Fuuuuuuu-
Anyway, I sent an email to the manufacturer for their advice. I suspect that they'll agree with you, RDG.
Thanks for the help, guys.

>>8690153
Tried that today, didn't work. For some weird reason, my left leg always gets mag crazy combs which in turn minimizes the stacking on that leg. Fuck it, I'll just burn them.

>>8690161
Listen to raw denim god, not me. I know fuck all.

>>8689959
i mean do you think commuters would last about a year without any blowouts or anything? that's all I need until I can make some money for a couple pairs of raws.

>>8690161
if you only soak them, not wash them, in cold water, so they don't shrink all the way, they may still be comfortable. that's the beauty of unsanforized denim, you can loosely control how much they shrink by managing the temperature of the wash/soak and the duration and level of agitation.

>>8690176
I could see that working, but then if I get them seriously dirty and have to do a warm/hot wash with a lot of agitation they'll shrink a ton.
The most annoying part about this is that I have to go up 2 sizes. Hopefully they don't come out too loose.

From Luther's:
"Thanks for the order. Yea, those look really good. Your going to lose an inch in the waist which will stretch out pretty quick back to original size. In length you'll loose 2 inches and that's gone for good.

If you don't plan on washing frequently a little tight is good. As you beat on them they'll stretch and be comfortable. I personally go 6 months without wash/soaking and depending on how loose they feel I decide whether to hot or cold soak.

So if they'll be ok 2 inches shorter I think your good."

Why can't anything ever be easy?

>>8690219
I think it's fair to say, I came out victorious here.

Sup guys

What do you think about G-star raws?
I know they aren't talked about that much.
I'm wearing a pair of 3001's that i have sown in because the widened a little much and i prefer tights jeans (n-no homo)

Only reason why i got them was because it was a sale and i got them for 60 bucks down from 110 and needed new pants.

So far i have worn them 3 weeks and got blue hands now and then, but i think they have bled out enough.

Can see some minor fades, honeycombing and such, but no real marks. Goes great with white shirts

>>8690223
The only loser will be my wallet.

>>8690244
herherherher

>>8689959
If you don't have a pair of either then why comment? 90% of what you say is solid advice but some stuff is just off. It's ok if you don't know man. Diors are for sure better then APC and I can say that having owned both. The 15.5 cut is also a touch tighter through the thighs then the PNS. I get that Hedi coppied APC's cuts for the 19cm but since KVA took over Dior the cut has also changed a bit as well.

>tfw getting fat and not being able to fit into rawz anymore

>>8690432
Straight cut???

>>8690371
I guess because people ask me a lot of questions and i feel the need to try to find some sort of answer to them even if i don't know exactly. I guess in the future i'll say "idk" more instead of giving potentially dubious info.

>>8690228
they look gaudy as fuck imo. but if you like it then more power to you

>be me
>thingken about raws
>have shameful fatass 34 inch waist
>still have urge to cop inadvisable jeans

>>8691627
that waist is fine, plenty of raws man, just don't have fatasfatass thighs

>>8691627
>Be me
>wanna get SKs
>Afraid of letting myself go and not being able to fit my waist into them
I feel my weight is in flux right now. I'm currently a 32 inch waist, but my fear of getting pants that aren't slim straights is I won't be able to fit into them in a year.
Currently sitting at 127 lbs and working out, although I'm not really changing my diet too much.
Wat do?

>>8691627
lol what? If you can wear jeans, you can wear raws. They don't have to be skin-tight.

>>8691663
what qualifies as fatass thighs?

>>8691686
thighs too big for standard straight leg jeans.

a lot of raws tell you the thigh measurements, if it's too small for your thighs, don't get them.

>>8691671
>Wat do?
go to /fit/

Oh snap, I just realized that I could probably score Levi's STF from Rakuten.

>Pant Size: 46
I'm here, being envious.

Luther's guy here. I caved and gave them a hot soak, and they fit great. I highly recommend the brand to anyone looking for a high-rise pair of raws without shelling out the cash for Japanese repros or LVC.
The fabric also has a bit of slub and even some nep. I'm excited to see how it fades.

>>8691955
Man, go out and find some nice looking straight tapered jeans. You don't have to be a size 26 waist to look good. You can also look good, but if you chose not to just because of your size, you're never going to improve.

>>8692226
Looks good mang. One mistake I kept making was to think my raws were delicate and that I couldn't do much in them incase I got a scrape on them. Don't be me. Fuckong trash them.

>>8693106
Ha did that with my first pair of n&f. Was so careful about them for like 3 months.
Second pair I fell in mud the 2nd day I had then.

>>8667524
What makes the fact the denim is sourced from Cone Mills relevant?

Also, should Oz matter in the long run?

>>8693140
Hahaha ya big faggot.

>>8693144
Since I'm here, I will have a go at answering. Cone Mills are known for making good quality denim and other fabrics. They also treat their employees super well and pay them well too. Japanese mills (Doesn't matter where, they're basically all the same) also make good quality denims and other fabrics, but I think they don't pay as well as they do in the USA. You can get a pair of jeans with cone mills denim and it could be stitched together shit, but then again, you could also get the shitest chinese denim and it could be put together super well. It's a game of compromising. If you wan't both really good denim and really good construction, you'll be paying handsomely.

In terms of the weight of the denim (what a square yard of the denim weighs) yes, that does matter. The lighter the denim, the thinner it is and therefore can affect things like how it wears, how it stretches and how tough it is. Just go with a 14/15oz denim if you're not too sure what you will like.

HOPE I HELPED, YA BIG FAGGOT.

Should I get these raws hemmed? Stacks a lot on the calves

>>8693381
they look too tight to me...

>>8693381

>>8693390
Yeah they're tight but im a manlet (when will i learn) so anything looser on me looks like shit

>>8693392
I think it looks good. If that 's a pinroll, it's supposed to stack

>>8693381
they look like girl jeans m8

are levi's,a.p.c.'s and naked and famous generally the go to brands?

>>8693401
http://www.naturalselectiondenim.com/shop/latest/view/skinny-skraw

I'm a 28 waist which doesn't help, leg opening is 6 inches

>>8693403
If by "go to" you mean because they're a cheap alternative and good entry level brands then yes. I wouldn't say a lot of people on /fa/ would reccomend levis for raw denim. Most people would reccomend n&f for entry level but that's my conception.

>>8693413

what are the better brands?

>>8693381
Is this a better fit in general? They need to be hemmed surely but I still think they'd look too bulky on my 5'5 frame. Levi 520s

Main reason I avoid jeans apart from skinny's (i.e 6 inch leg opening) is that if I do get them hemmed by about 2-3 inches the taper goes to shit and they look heaps weird.

>>8693434
forgot pic

>>8693435
swag

>>8693435
better
On the other pair you should size up

how will black 510's fade, how should i treat them

>>8693729
Bought the other pair a while ago so can't size up.
Although they are raws they're 2% elastane and seeing as i've only worn them 10 or so times i'm hoping the stretch out over time, is this likely?

>>8693106
Don't worry, I haven't had that error in thinking. These are going to be my beater pants.

are cheap Monday unwashed actually raw? and if they are, are they any good?

>>8693144
Cone Mills has been around in some form for over a hundred years, and with that comes a level of respect. It's currently owned by International Textile Group.
Weight affects thickness, which affects fades and warmth.

>>8693848
It just depends on weight, brand, etc. Keep trying. If they don't just throw em on ebay,

>>8691554
Good shit homie. The advice is appreciated.

>>8693781
pls respond

>>8693415
really depends what you are looking for. mid tier is 3sixteen, RT, maybe Raleigh. Higher teir is samurai, strike gold, PBJ. I you want more fashion oriented brands then Dior and SLP both make good quality RAWs

>>8693781
They wont fade much. just treat them like normal jeans.

>>8693144
from a purely aesthetic standpoint, cone mills denim is *usually* much more uniform than Japanese denim, with less irregularities like slub and nep. Personally I and many others prefer japanese denim for this reason, but Japanese denim is no better or worse than american denim.


>>8693982
they are raw, but they're just okay. you can get better jeans for the same price from other brands.

>>8695011
i was wondering just because I picked some up at a platos closet today for fifteen bucks. too bad they've been washed multiple times.

Does "tumbled rigid" for levis mean sanforized raw?

>>8696174
no, it's just the color, it should say if its sanforized or not.

>>8693381
i'd cop a slim or different skinnys, those are skin tight and not flattering.

>>8696174
does rigid dragon mean they took my raws and beat a komodo dragon with it to get the fades?

>>8698156
i wish it did

What's up with Raleigh Jeans? Shit tier? I know nothing about them. Anyone have any experience with em?

>>8698321
it's a north carolina brand

What are some good places in NYC to shop for/try on denim? 3x1 in soho seems cool, but I don't want to pay $600 for a pair of bespoke jeans.

>>8698389
http://www.rawrdenim.com/2013/04/top-shops-in-new-york-city-to-buy-raw-denim/

4 pairs of Uniqlo slim jeans or 1 pair of Acne? And why?

>>8698617
acne isn't that great. you're paying more for the name, quality is only a little better than the uniqlo, so might as well get those. more for your money.

>>8698629
Have you had experience with their chinos?

>>8698642
i have a pair of uniqlo slim chinos, they're alright for the price, a bit better than asos quality.

>>8698669
I be coppin' some jeans and chinos then. Thanks.

>>8698716
uniqlo slim fit chinos are GOAT. i have a pair and used them for work this summer and they're wonderful. so comfortable and just the right amount of stretch,

>>8700402
GOAT?

>>8700995
not sure if stupid or disagreeing

>>8701025
the latter

Looks so tempting....

http://nakedandfamousdenim.com/2014/03/05/weirdguy-green-weft-selvedge/


Off the topic of that particular pair.. What's a nice slim (not skinny nor tapered) black pair of raws

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