/fa/ - Fashion

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My Mido Ocean Star Automatic

I just felt like saying this since the thread is new:

Quartz beats automatic hands down.

No adjusting time every week due to the inferior accuracy of a mechanical movement.

No 'I didn't wear my watch for two days so now I have to adjust the time again'

No $500+ servicing every year, in fact most quartz watches cost under the service amount of a luxury automatic

>hurr but I don't need a battery

Quartz batteries last upwards of 2 years. A shit casio I got in 2010 had its first battery change this year.

Pic related is a great looking, cheap as fuck accurate quartz FASHION watch.

>>8281483
It simply isn't as cool. I wear a quartz wenger and it looks pretty good, but it simply isn't as cool as an automatic.

>>8281483
>Quartz beats automatic hands down.

except quartz watch hands are invariably out of alignment.
and the sweeping second hand of an automatic is way sexier than the ticking hand of a quartz watch.

and are you seriously trying to post that ugly Fossil as a good example?

>>8281483

>implying watches are nothing more than a fashion accessoire

I know this /fa/ and quarz watches are cheaper and more accurate, but some people like to buy a watch and wear it for more than one season.

I paid about 500€ for mine and the service (every 3-5 years) is about 120€. Most people on this board are spending more on some fancy brand socks per month.

Accuracy is not a big deal for me either, since it's only about 2 seconds per day, what equals only 1 minute per month.

>>8281388

yeah fuck hublot and their ugly-ass, overpriced pieces of shit.

at least AP know how tho allign their fuckin screws properly

just having a coffee at the sydney breitling store :):)

>>8281567

enoy your overpriced ETA-Movement

>>8281483
tfw no pilot watches in 40mm

42mm doesnt fit you?

>>8282476
standard model Swatch is too big

>>8282502
Damn bitchboi

Shoulda played sports in puberty

Got them epigenetic switches poppin so you wouldnt grow ups with a fat floppy pussyface

Gonna try to sell it somewhere

>>8282671
>forgetting what year it is frequently enough to justify a watch with the year on it
The rich alcoholics watch

>>8282691
Hopefully I can sell it do a rich alcoholic then, I've never worn it

>>8281555
trips speak the truth

AP makes the best fucking modern watches

thoughts?
would this be an upgrade from the orient mako?

>>8282785
I have the 2013 version and I love it. While spec wise it would be an upgrade from an Orient Mako they are different types of watches, however they are both casual watches so they should be fine in most of the same fits.

I'm not a usual lurker on this board but I have a watch question.
I'm a Frenchfag who wants a French automatic watch, so the choice is very limited. Basically, it comes down to one brand: Y&B. They're not exceptional in any way, but they're French-made and also, cheap. I like that.

Their collection is here: http://www.yonger-bresson.fr/collections

Basically, I want a round one with a metal bracelet and a sweeping second.
I'm tempted by the black Pyrate one because I like the design, but I'm really unsure if it's actually "wearable". I mean, it's quite excentric.
Other choices would be the "La Boissière", the "Fontainebleau", the "Cheverny", all in their metal+black-face version.

Otherwise, maybe one of the XTrem Rondes, despite not having metal bracelet.

Any advice?

>>8281388
Just got into my first choice Uni, St. Andrews. Pops gave me this watch as a gift so I could fit in with the other gay knobs. What do you think?

>>8283553

>>8283553

What does /fa/ think of the Citizen NY0040?

> tfw small wrists

>>8281601

I will thank you :)

>>8283553
I wonder if the original poster ever runs across his own pasta.

>>8281483

A photograph is more accurate than a painting.

>>8281483
>tfw have to wind my watch manually

>>8281555
The subtle RO's like your pic are gorgeous.
But AP also make those massive gaudy transformers inspired pieces of shit OffShore models. AP a kinda a one-trick pony in that respect.

Show me a modern AP as beautiful as the RO in it's own way
>protip, you maybe will have difficulties

>>8283790
that pearl is a terrible colour
unless you work for RAAF you cannot pull off that silly watch

>>8282365
Stowa Flieger
Sinn 856
IWC overpriced whatever

>>8283787
looks like an SKX007 fake, just get the seiko

>>8284623

i'm gonna put it on a pro diver strap so it's less obnoxious. it's only 44mike mike in diameter and I work for an airline so it's still within the grooming regulation!

>>8282365
>>8284630
Archimede

>>8283790
>overhanging lugs

>>8284918

yeah I know. luckily I have good proportioned forearms and biceps but girly wrists.

it balances with the overall look of my uniform.

otherwise I still have my breitling aerospace evo if I wanna go a bit more subtle

>>8284925

forgot pic

>>8284992
What is that uniform..?

>>8284997
>uniform
It's village people cosplay

>>8285153

>>8284992
always liked those Breitlings, not really any other cool ana-digis in the high end range out there

>>8281483
I agree with everything you wrote, apart from 3 things:
Mech is better, if you WANT a mech, for whatever reason that might be, same as for quartz, if you WANT a quartz.

due to a self-reinforcing cycle, there are situations (or rather, pay levels) where you simply must wear a mech, due to peer pressure

>Pic related is a great looking, cheap as fuck accurate quartz FASHION watch.
>great looking
FUCKING NO!
Its an ugly, shitty fashion watch, with an ugly logo of a shitty brand and an "airplane" design, even though that watch has nothing to do with airplanes at all. Do you also run around in a toys-r-us fireman costume?

>>8285561
Explain to me why a fashion watch must be shitty.

Also, the watch is based on a classic flieger design and uses the same typeface as the instruments of a cockpit. Add to that a triple date and that's what you get. Not tasteless at all.

About to get me one of these

>>8286037
>Sinn masterrace
Thread saved. How come you didn't go for the U1, its a similar price from what I remember

>>8286037
meh

>>8286071
The timeless pilot style is what draws me in. Also, the U1 is pretty expensive: U1 is £1645 on bracelet, the 556i is £775. Also, I already have a Precista diver from Timefactors so I don't need another chunky watch.

>>8281483
>tommy hilfiger watch
i can't believe anyone fell for this bait, i don't even own a watch and i know how retarded this is

If you've got the cash money then nothing really competes with Breguet.

Pic related is my baby.

What do you think about mine?

>>8286420

yeah if you had the money youd have a Urban Jurgenson or Philippe Dufour.

>>8286657

btw it is impossible to buy a Phillipe Dufour. This guy makes like 7 watches a year. theres an interesting documentary about him on jewtube.
even if you are filthy fuckin rich.. he chooses his buyers. i think hes pre-sold for like 10 years.

>>8286657
I guess I'm a poorfag for owning a £34k watch then sry2poor4u

'62 Omega Seamaster with a leather strap.
Using a Zentima-Marin now, though.

>>8286716
Actually, remembered I have a picture of the Omega, too.

>>8283553
God damned Anglo nigger you're the worst shitposter on /int/

>>8286695
i never said i think youre poor. Breguet is one of the oldest, most respected maufacturers. BUT if you where actually interessted in watchmaking and are that rich, you would have bought something else.

>>8286420

That is some fucking nice horology right there, you should be congratulated on owning that.

>>8286748
I'm just joking.

And yes you might be right, I have a thing for watches but not to the extent where I see the need to research and purchase obscure brands by prestigious watchmakers, which barely anyone knows. For me it's just a beautiful accessory which I enjoy the knowledge of having without ever trying to show off. Even though I've got a collection going on, my most worn watch is a simple black Casio.

TL;DR I respect your knowledge and if you're an aficionado of watches on a more sophisticated level, GG keep it up, I salute you.

Anyone know of any good, cheap minimalist watches?

This is the slickest watch I have. Minimalist. Wizard series by Komono.

>>8287954
lol good troll

just got it today

>>8288704
Well played

Still really happy with it. Losing constant 4-5s a day out of the box.

>>8281388
>tfw no italian banker collecting ultra rare pateks as a hobby

http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/talking-watches-with-alfredo-paramico

>>8282671
verynice, how much?

>>8289865
wow, those are some pretty watches

>>8289865
>tfw no italian banker collecting ultra rare pateks as a hobby
why u're not studying economics then u dumbfuck

Thinking of buying this for $55, 42mm case. Thoughts?

>>8289975
2late to make money in ib

New Patek

>>8290253
nice

>>8290253
gen? is it yours?

>>8290403
Yes

>>8289653
hnng

>>8286553
please be joking

>>8286037
are you the same guy who's been talking about getting one of these for months?

>>8286420
Beautiful breguet! I have a classique, and a blancpain and a couple of jlc. Do you have any other watches? Pic related, it's my breguet

>>8290009
cant go wrong for 55 usd

>>8290253
good

>>8290472
fuck thats a beauty. Always wanted a nice clean timepiece with a leather strap that won't break my budget

>>8290711
Thank you! What's your budget?

>>8290253
good

>>8290593
well if you say
>its good... for the money
that means its shit

>>8290788
well you wont get anything good for 55 usd. Your best bet on ultra budget is probably a Swatch.

Bought this a couple of weeks ago. Gotten a lot more compliments than i expected.

>>8290807
>Swatch
No, not ever. I bought a Swatch Irony Chrono and it's disappointing in every way possible.

>>8290788
It won't be shit, but there will be nothing special about it. I happen to like that watch you posted, I considered buying one before but ended up not.

Buy a second hand automatic Seiko if you want the best possible watch for 55USD.

>>8290825
>Buy a second hand automatic Seiko if you want the best possible watch for 55USD.
What's best? I'm buying a watch as a status symbol/accesory, not because I like mechanical geekery

>>8290854
for that money you'd get a Seiko 5 at best and they are terrible. In that budget getting an automatic is just stupid.

>>8290823

>>8290854
>$55 status symbol
Uh.

>>8290875
Seiko 5's aren't terrible, but definitely not a status symbol.

>>8290854
see >>8281483

>>8290253
I like it.

It was a present.

>>8290253

what a shitty fake

give me the refrence model number because google didnt spit anything out

>>8291065
its a classic

>>8290944
nice

>>8290944


That's a nice present.

>>8283790
ur not a part of Swiss Air Force, why is ur watch saying u r.

>>8291154

lol fake shit

Legitimately not bait.

Is it possible to get a decent - preferably metal band - watch for around $80?

>>8291877
Yes

http://www.amazon.com/Seiko-SNX997-Black-Stainless-Automatic/dp/B00EPDB7JQ/

I prefer metal bands, too. Also, look for a Citizen Eagle 7 on ebay or something. They don't have them on amazon.

>>8292032
>http://www.amazon.com/Seiko-SNX997-Black-Stainless-Automatic/dp/B00EPDB7JQ/

Hot damn, thanks. I was just reading the thread about to search for a classic looking Seiko 5.

>>8288716
Only replica I'd wear.

>>8291877
>metal band

>>8292216

What would you suggest?

>>8292170

is this ok

>>8292216
Metal bands are the best

>>8292238
Personally, I wouldn't.

>>8292234
Leather

Metal bracelets simply look bad

>>8292287
Depends on the watch

>>8292322
I just don't think giant chunky watches look good and all the metal bracelet watches tend to be giant and chunky looking.

I also like when I can button my sleeves.

>>8292356
Maybe sometimes. Pic related is my all-time favorite watch. Not chunky.

I know what you mean, though.

>>8292372
That actually does look good. I could see that looking great peaking out of your sleeve.

I guess it's submariners that make the best example of what I dislike.

What would be recommended at a $150 budget?

>>8292429
Seiko
Citizen

>>8292444
do you have any specific preferences?

I've always wanted this watch

>>8292453
I like the 5 sport, with a leather band because it looks like the hamilton field khaki.

Just go on amazon and look at seikos and citizens and buy one over 100 dollars.

>>8292523

>>8292539

>>8292454
>AW1146-55H
Then buy it?
It's really not expensive, isn't it like sub-300$?

>>8292454
Do it, citizen Eco drives are the best bang for buck

So I want to buy a watch for my mother, she likes small watches. What do you guys think of the Seiko Lukia line?

They all seem to have coated sapphire crystals and 10bar WR with some solar radio movement, which is about what I'm looking for.

Opinions?

>>8293203
Got my mom one for her 60th and she's in love with it.

Still rocking my Mondaine Evo though.

How much could I sell this watch for? I can't find an exact match on the site but the closest match I can find goes for 220 euro which is about 300 usd

>>8293889
I'll give you $220 for it

>>8293922
Sounds fair

>>8293889
That is one ugly ass watch

>>8288716
Where did you buy this

>>8294220
I know it was a gift.

My Sea-Dweller and my Maui Jim Freight Trains.

I can't do wrist shots. They always look strange to me.

>>8294288
>that ugly table again
Also did you straight out and buy maui jims after somebody recommended it in the last thread?
How does it feel to be a sheep?

>>8294451
Wanted to see what all the hype was about. Turns out they were pretty nice. So I purchased them.

Still love my table.

>>8294288
>>8294451
>>8294501
>inb4 expensive floors

>>8294525
No one wants to go down that road again.

bump

>>8294501

Do you just buy anything that catches your fancy on a whim? I seriously doubt that you researched all the frames that were recommended in the last thread, which gives me the impression that you are nouveau-riche and try to buy one status symbol after another.
I'm not saying old-money types are much better, but at least they inherit good taste in the process.

>>8295307
Well, most of the frames recommended in the previous threads were only available from the US, which is not an option for me. Objective sunglass reviews are quite hard to come by on the web, as is literature about them. I checked out Salt Optics, Cutler and Gross, Matsuda and Mykita, and I ended up with Maui Jim.

The "status symbols" are purely for my own enjoyment, as neither my friends or family give a solitary shit about any of it.

>/fa/ recommends different sunglasses
>buy sunglasses after trying them out
>get shit on for purchasing sunglasses

gr8.

>Do you just buy anything that catches your fancy on a whim?

Most of the time, no. But in this case I, yes, after reading as much as I could about them on the web.

I don't really understand what the fuss is all about. Don't other people on /fa/ purchase clothes based on recommendations?

>>8295339
>my own enjoyment
>posts his items repeatedly both here and on /g/ for everyone to view

The thinly-veiled narcissism is hilarious, please do go on.

>>8295351
I don't post these images for the enjoyment of other people. I've never indicated otherwise.

Posting on 4chan is a purely narcissistic act. It's all for me.

>>8295353
I believe his point was that you need the validation of your purchases by others and to be fair it seems that way:

>but you guys told me to get those glasses
>now I get shit for it

>>8295362
Yes.

>>8295362
Not to escalate things, but isn't literally every post/thread on /fa/ about getting validation?

does anyone know if there is a watch similar to this, but for no more than € 200/300?
I really like the look of nomos watches, but I don't know if they'd work with my fits, so I want to try with a cheap watch before starting to save up for a real nomos

>>8295446
Go in to any cheap clothing/jewelry store and you will find something like it.

casio g-shock GA-120A

>>8295446
http://www.good-stuffs.com/Classic-Rodina-automatic-wrist-watch-OEM-by-Sea-Gull-ST17_p_156.html

Also, check watchuseek's affordable forums for reviews of this watch. It's generally well loved there.

>>8295353
Feeding off validation from other people by posting status symbols under the guise of "personal enjoyment" is a textbook definition of narcissism. It's fairly pathetic, do you suffer from low self-esteem to derive value from your purchases?

>>8295362
Yes that was my point, but I think it went straight over his head.

>>8295388
No. Validation isn't some catch-all term used to define attention seeking behaviour, it varies according to implicit/explicit motive.

>>8295472
disgusting

>>8290470
nah that's me, and I've changed my mind. Getting a stowa now instead

>>8297249
it's still like 45% of nomos price
why u do dat
esp. with watches?

>>8295472
>>8295472
>gshock
>right wrist
filthy casual

>>8297253
what are you saying?
Nomos is too much to spend on a watch for me right now. My most expensive is a 500 mech chrono that just broke

>>8297241
I've been told that I suffer from high self esteem. I don't really feel like I am suffering.

>>8297270
>I've been told
Only proving my point, friend.

>>8297275
I understand that.

>>8297277
you can GO AND GET FUCKED M8

>>8297265
I'm saying that price of a stowa watch is like 45% of nomos watch. And if you can allow yourself to spend ~1k on watch then maybe you should save up to spend ~2k and get nomos

>>8297277
You lack the self-awareness to understand your behaviour.

>>8297281
I am not so sure that you can come to that conclusion based on a few small strings of text, but alright.

I guess having personality disorders ain't as bad as one would think.

>>8297280
the only Nomos I would buy is the Orion 38 and it's more than 2k, closer to 3-3.5k I think

Is Nomos any good or is it just "I want a swiss mechanical watch but I can't afford one."

I honestly don't know.

>>8297288
You have displayed your nouveau-riche lack of taste quite a bit in these threads, there is enough information for a quick assessment.

>>8297294
They are really good. Boutique good. At a lower price with classical styling.
Swiss mechanical watches start at $400...

>>8297298
>nouveau-riche

Anything to make you feel better about yourself. Not the sea-dweller/maui jim guy, btw, just wanted to voice my opinion.

It's a pair of sunglasses and a watch. Which was posted in a watch thread on a fashion forum. The sunglasses were bought on a recommendation from said forum. Suddenly, the poster has personality disorders.

Lack of taste is a great, non-subjective way to look at it. You are taking an offensive for no reason at all. People posting pictures of their stuff does not make them insecure, especially on an imageboard. /fa/ is basically a board for validation.

You are an idiot and you feel better about yourself for it. You are the real narcissist here.

>>8297294
nomos is german
apart from that it's ok

>>8297313
A. Lange is also german.

>>8297314
hitler and schweinsteiger are also german

>>8297317
Yeah. But the Nazis dressed sexy. And made good guns and tanks.

>>8297310
This person posts here regularly and gets defensive when called out for poor taste. Your indignant rant is understandable but uninformed.
Your writing style is similar to his, but lets chalk that up to coincidence.

>>8297319
but schweinsteiger isnt nazi
and yet those guns were worse than soviet trash from shit, sticks and stones, called ak47 brah brah and t34

>>8297299
>Zürich Weltzeit
So much want!
But I really should not spend 4000 or so € on a watch I dont really need. But maybe one day…

>>8297320
Of course he gets defensive. That's a natural human reaction. You are on the defensive right now. See how that works?

>regularly
I've seen him here maybe three times. Only episode with him was last thread were someone gave him shit about his floor for seemingly no reason.

>>8297320
>he gets defensive

What does that prove?

What do you guys think of the A Lange Datograph?

>>8297325
>You are on the defensive right now
How so? I don't see you getting upset as a personal insult since you make reasonable points.
In response to one of those points, he regularly posts on /g/.

>>8297330
When someone posts pictures of their belongings but handles criticisms badly, it implies insecurity. That is self evident, so I assume you were asking a rhetorical question.

>>8297345
>he regularly posts on /g/

Nigga, I don't give a shit. It does not matter in the slightest. This thread is about watches.

>handles criticism badly
All criticisms were subjective and he was defending his own taste. You saying he handled it badly does not make it so.

You are the one who seems insecure. Needlessly derailing threads to hack on some dude and his supposed personality disorders, while providing nothing of value yourself. You clearly have a superiority complex.

>>8290253

>Screen Shot 2014-05-29 at (...).png

>>8297354
so?

>>8297355
not his pic

>>8294525

I do love that anon who grilled him about his taste and shitty flooring.

>>8297357
I often take screenshots of my own pictures instead of re-sizing them.

>>8297363
what's the purpose of re-sizing before posting?

if anything a full scale picture will prove the authenticity of a watch

>>8297361
Yeah I love derailing threads as well.

>>8297368
Maybe he does not care about proving anything for a pretentious fashion board?

Maybe his original photo was too big to be posted.

>>8297351
>This thread is about watches.
>needlessly derailing thread
A few comments were made about his floor and the rest of thread was derailed by his defence of it.

>providing nothing of value yourself
You have no knowledge of my contribution to these threads since I don't have a trip. So what exactly do you base that assertion on?

Again, your writing style is rather familiar. I won't look too much into it, but the idea of someone coming to their own defence is amusing. Lets hope its not the case here.

>>8297382
>baseless assumptions

Let's hope you aren't this dumb.

>>8297391
>implying any assumptions were made
Looks like you need to work on your reading comprehension.

>dumb
Mind your language. I know you can't give a coherent response but there is no need for name-calling.

Got this baby about a month ago.

>>8297410
Very nice. Have you considered giving the polished centre links of the bracelet a brushed steel finish though? I like the design but the watch seems rather blingy at times. What do you think?

>>8297403
>taking the adult moral highground
Way to win the argument.

>>8297420
A lot of people seem to prefer it brushed, but really I quite like the contrast between the body, side links and centre links. The watch is more blingy than most, and considering its a blatant rolex rip thats really unavoidable, at least its not bright gold.

>>8297425
>taking
It was bestowed upon me, since you seemed to want to take the childish route. You can't roll around in mud and complain when talked down to, my friend.
There is no argument here, only a discussion.

>>8297443
I don't think you understand. You've already lost.

>>8297451
I understand enough to know that if you start to categorise a neutral discussion as a matter of winning or losing, you are feeling threatened and taking things personally. I wonder why you feel the need to "win" anything, especially when coming to the defence of a stranger. Please do elaborate.

>>8297467
I have no obligations. I just like to pop in and give my 2 cents when someone clearly is in the wrong.

>>8297369

It was already derailed, he just took control off the train and ran greenfagtable over.

>>8297410
I read the label on the dial as "Coward"
A bit to Sub-like, for my liking, buts thats an(my?) issue with most dive watches.

>>8297485
>greenfagtable

wow

Tell me, what exactly did he do wrong?

>>8297472
Ah, the Good Samaritan of our time. Next time you intercede on behalf of some damsel in distress (who has now conveniently disappeared I might add) try not to become upset and obtuse. Also the assertion that I'm "clearly in the wrong" is an interesting one. How so. According to your initial post, the matter was reduced to his taste versus my taste. If taste is purely subjective (according to yourself) then by what criteria am I wrong?

>>8297497
If you can't see it yourself by now, then there is no reason to explain it.

>>8297508
Sounds like an all too convenient escape from an "argument" that you can't "win" (to use your terminology). It's quite sad to see someone not able to form a coherent response resorting to hiding behind allegedly self-evident truths to prove their point.

>>8297523
Sure. Just keep massaging your ego.

>>8297525
Seems like you're the one with an ego, if you view every neutral discussion as an argument, especially one that you supposedly involved yourself in.

>>8297530
>no u

Pointing fingers is just the worst. Grow up.

>>8297533
>Grow up
Scraping the bottom of the barrel in terms of responses right there. You yourself view this whole thing as an argument that can be won or lost. That implies involvement of the ego, so its not a baseless assertion. Why are you so invested in defending that individual?`

>>8297545
>calling motives into question

Who's scraping the bottom now?

>>8297555
It's still you doing the scraping, since you evade and dismiss perfectly reasonable questions. Also accusing someone else of what you yourself were accused of without providing an explanation is a better demonstration of
>no u
Would you like me to repeat the questions? Or perhaps you would like to say some more cryptic things to desperately get the last word in?

>>8297565
You are out of your element. Just stop already.

>>8297571
>out of your element
Nice projection there. You would like me to stop because you lack the ability to give any answers. Amusingly enough this is also how the poster in the last thread withered away. Short sentences in a bid to get the last word in, characterised by an air of exasperation.

>>8297577
I am pretty sure that was not the same guy. If I remember correctly (not saying I am), he said that he would stop posting because it was futile. Them someone else took over.

Also, why is your stake so large in this? Do you honestly care in the slightest? I highly doubt anyone is taking this seriously. I am just a spectator and this is getting boring as shit. Not that it was even good to start with. Dude jsut wanted to share his stuff.

>>8297577
>pulling the projection card

You really don't know what you are doing, do you?

>>8297577
You obviously are an intelligent person and you are quite articulate. Why are you even wasting your time with this?

Nobody cares at all. Dude with glasses ain't even posting anymore. Same thing happened in the last thread.

>>8297581
If I remember correctly, he carried on posting responses after he said he'd leave.
I don't have any real stake in this, but I would like to understand why someone else would argue so much on his behalf and get so upset about the issue that they refuse to answer any questions.

>>8297583
>dismissing a valid observation as a cheap tactic because its suits your agenda

>>8297591
I am pretty sure it was someone else. His responses were pretty articulate and after he "left", they became rather dumb, like the posts right now.

pros and cons to an anonymous imageboard.

>>8297340
Yes

>>8297602
What about the perpetual calender version in platinum?

Does it get too cluttered?

>>8297589
>>8297595

I appreciate the appeal to my ego, but I just view this as a discussion. I ask reasonable questions and get vague nonsensical responses.
I did not see any difference in the articulation and writing style between the two.
Anyway, never mind. I will address the questions directly to the individual in the next thread to get some clarification.

>>8297618
You know, writing style and articulation are not really valid forms of identification. A lot of people can form coherent sentences, and a lot of people can't. It's probably a good idea just to wait until he posts in the next thread, as you said.

I understand that you view this as discussion, as would any sane person, but to what end? What do you want to know or find out? You have seemingly already drawn you conclusions.

>>8297633
Of course, I did not pretend to be able to identify anyone based on articulation alone, but I did make a subjective note of similarities and patterns.

I may have drawn my conclusions but I do not have enough hubris to presume that they cannot be proven wrong. So when someone asserts that they are wrong without due explanation, it leads to more questions. When those questions are met with derision it leads to questioning of initial motive.

>>8297610
That's even better, god damn.

>>8297654
Yes, I understand that, but it was already stated before, by yourself, that there is no right or wrong, and the discussion is completely subjective.

I really don't want to become another playing in this jumbled pile of confusion, but I just wanted to point it out. You know what? Forget it. I want to talk about watches.

What watches do you like? Are you planning on buying anything? What do you have?

I myself am working on selling my Panerai Luminor and getting a hold of a Rolex Datejust with blue dial. I love that simple dial and my Panerai is just way too big and uncomfortable.

Recent and first ever watch cop. Loving the new piece

>>8297669
Agreed. If there is one thing we can all agree on, regardless of tables and floors, its that watches are nice.

I think moving from a Luminor to a Datejust is an excellent move. Luminor has its appeal but it is quite large for everyday wear and a Datejust is far more versatile. Will you be going for a oyster bracelet of a jubilee? Any other watches that seem like promising candidates?

I am very patient when it comes to luxury goods, if I buy something it must be practical or I find it difficult to justify. I've mostly dabbled in vintage pieces but I find they are too much of a liability when it comes to maintenance (with the expection of Rolex's overengineered 15XXX movements of course). Recently I was shopping for an every day watch and within my budget I had the choice of Rolex, JLC, Patek, AP and micro-brands like NOMOS and Sinn.
I didn't want a gold watch since they scratch and dent easily in my opinion so that ruled out Patek, whereas something more toolish like Sinn seemed slightly unrefined to be versatile.
It came down to JLC, Rolex and NOMOS. I would have been completely content with a Master Ultra Thin Jubilee, it is beautiful but I needed something more sturdy for my active lifestyle. I went with a ceramic submariner. Slightly common choice, but it is a watch I seldom have to take off and so I am fairly content with it. I am considering purchasing a dress watch but I have little use for it at the moment. Any recommendations outside the usual suspects?

>>8297684
Wow

Such good
Wow

Tells grills horse cock over here such wow

>>8297693
Well, the seller who has the Datejust also has V-series (the last one) 16600 Sea-Dweller in mint condition, so that is also a strong contender, even though it is more expensive. Oyster bracelet no matter what. I am not a fan of the jubilee, unless you are retired or a gangster.

Don't ever get an Audemars Piguet. They completely fucked me on my purchase, and the support is horrible. I have a Royal Oak Offshore with the rubber strap and rubber bezel, and they get scratched to shit so easily. So I went to my AD and tried to purchase a steel bezel and a leather strap. I was told that AP does not sell parts that weren't intended for the watch, even though they fit perfectly. I was given the option to order a new set of rubber parts, but they wanted fucking 3 thousand dollars for them. I am never buying anything from them again. The service prices are also through the roof. I may have money, but I am not an idiot.

For everyday watches, I tend to stick to Rolex. I have a 1989 GMT-II with the black and red bezel. I don't really have any other recs for everyday. I am sad to say, but I don't like the new ceramic Rolexes. They lost their subtly with the shiny bezel and the maxi dial.

For dress, I highly recommend you check out Urban Jürgensen. They are not very well known, but their movements, fit and finish is a league above both A. Lange and Patek.

>>8297718

That is a difficult choice indeed. If you are intending to sell the watch in the future, I would say go with the SD, considering that their prices will go the same way as 5513 are right now and four line COSC 14060m's will be in a few years from now (in my opinon).
Otherwise it depends on your lifestyle and occupation I think. If you are fond of the outdoors perhaps you will value and enjoy the SD far more than the Datejust. What are you instinctively drawn towards?

I'm sorry to hear about your experiences with AP, I've heard of their ridiculous service prices from a friend who owned a Royal Oak. After it came back from the service, he immediately sold it for a profit and bought a Blancpain FF on my recommendation. Personally the designs of AP never really appealed to me enough to own one. Did you keep the watch or sell it? JLC master compressor might be an interesting alternative to the Offshore range.

I completely understand where you are coming from. Once I had committed to a sub the question was "which one". The 5513 is a classic but frankly I've had my fill of vintage pieces and have sold most of them. So it came down to 114060 and the 14060. Aesthetically the 14060 is the superior but the bracelet was not up to scratch, considering that both the pieces were more or less equally priced. The glidelock clasp helped as well. I don't find the maxi-case and maxi-dial too offensive. Anything in particular you dislike about the ceramic subs? Criticisms encouraged and welcome.

UJ have some lovely pieces, I wish they would make them in a traditional dress watch size (34-38mm). I know thats considered effeminate nowadays but the smaller size gives a wonderful feeling of subtlety and restraint. Apologies if I'm wrong and UJ do make some watches in that size, I did not come across one.

>>8297718
>hey completely fucked me on my purchase,
please elaborate
>So I went to my AD and tried to purchase a steel bezel and a leather strap. I was told that AP does not sell parts that weren't intended for the watch, even though they fit perfectly.
Funny, I thought at those price points, they would be much more accommodating to their esteemed customer.
I assume you did not stomp into the store like a raging asshole and where willing to pay for your "custom style" AP?

>>8297765
I still have my AP. I just don't really ever wear it. I should probably just get it sold so I can be rid of it.

I don't like the JLC master compressors. They are too bulky. I try not to wear anything over 40-42mm. The AP Offshore is just pushing it.

The glidelock clasp is the only thing I like about the new Rolex's. And the new lume. Everything else, I like better with the old models. The dial especially is just way too exaggerated, with the large dots and the thick hands.

Urban Jürgensen does have 37-38mm sizes.
http://www.ujs-chronometry.ch/collection_private.php
My father has a Reference 2 in Rose Gold and it is the most beautiful watch I have ever seen. Pictures don't do it justice.

>>8297770
I know how to conduct myself in public. I was more than willing to pay and I am always extremely polite to the staff. AP are just way up their own ass.

>>8297781
Agreed 40mm is the limit for personally.
Perhaps the difference in opinion regarding the rolex is due to me being tired of vintage quality. Some find the bracelet stretch and rattle to be appealing, and perhaps if I had paid the amount people did in the days when Rolex was a tool watch, I would have agreed. But personally its not for me. Having said that the criticisms of the ceramic bezel being more blingy are very valid too. The lack of date lens does help reduce the stigma, albeit slightly.

The reference 2 looks excellent, and perfect size too. Your father has impeccable taste, I picture him to be a well seasoned horologist. I have a feeling these pieces would be out of my price range, but I will look into trying to see one in the flesh if possible. Thank you for bringing this brand to my attention.

Hey richfags, why don't you own one of these?

>>8297830
I am not exaggerating when I say that UJ has better finish than Patek and Lange. Their watches are COMPLETELY hand built, and the dials are made by hand. Every singe groove has been hand carved.

I believe their perpetual calenders cost around 90-100 grand (dollars), while their more simple watches are less expensive.

They are only sold in Copenhagen, Chicago and Geneva, but sometimes if you are lucky, they will pop up on chrono24. I highly recommend checking them out if you can.

>>8297847
There are 4 different fonts on the dial. That is more than enough of a reason to not buy it.

>>8297847
There is no reason to buy that over an IWC, JLC or Rolex.

>>8297872
The movement would be enough reason for me.

>>8297858
Valid point, fair enough.

>>8297872
why does Omega get so little love?

>>8297881
Because their only good watch is the Speedmaster.

>>8297880
A watch is much more than a movement.

>>8297884
what about the Sea Master or Planet Ocean, oh and Aqua Terra.

>>8281388
>watch thread
tips fedora

>>8297893

>>8297887
I just think the movement is a lot more important than the name of the company who made it.

>>8297901
What about the case, the dial and everything else? I see no reason to purchase a Grand Seiko above a JCL or a Rolex.

>>8297891
Don't like any of them, but that is just my own personal opinion. If I had to have an Omega, it would be a Speedmaster, and nothing else.

>>8297907
I think these GS's look great, though.

I was just curious to hear both your opinions on it.

>>8297858
I did have a look on Chrono24 and other than a minute repeater there wasn't much there. I plan to make a trip to Geneva at least once in the next three years so I may have a look at it then.

Perpetual Calendars have never really appealed to me so I will most likely be looking at the simpler models with minimal complications. I prefer clean dials which is why I would I would pick something like a Caltrava or VC Patrimony over a complicated dial. Not to say I don't appreciate the intricate workmanship that goes into complications.
I believe you when you say that the UJs are better finished. The reference 5 and 8 look exquisite, I cannot wait to see them in person.

>>8297933
I cannot speak for the other person but the Grand Seiko can be a polarising watch.

1. When you spend over £1000 on a watch you buy a few things; the watch, the warranty and the exclusivity. Granted the latter is relative however people may be uncomfortable purchasing a watch which that has a name found on £60 mechanicals. I'm not saying that this is a good or bad reason to not purchase it, but it is an understandable reason.
2. GS are usually very well finished and I have seen some very nice workmanship on their dials. But as mentioned previously, the writing on the dial can clash with the rest of the aesthetic. Personally I wish they changed the Seiko logo on their high end pieces (or is that some kind of blasphemy?)
3. The movement has its own merit, but unlikely to sway someone who could get a JLC Reverso in the same price range. If movement is the only criteria there are still better options.

Overall a good option if you are a die-hard seiko fan or want a smart-casual watch. It depends on your taste.
If movement is top-priority, why not pick an in-house NOMOS over a GS?

>>8297881
Vintage Omega dress watches have a simple refinement to them and are extremely charming. The Speedmaster is a classic. Everything after has been hit and miss (mostly miss). Even they know this, which is why they released a vintage inspired seamaster at basel 2014. The only interesting thing they have done lately is make a completely amagnetic watch, but even that has a flashy and tacky design in its current form.

To the people from the previous thread.

I didn't bother winding it or setting the time, as I won't be wearing it, but here it is in all its glory, timestamp included.

Now it's off to Switzerland, for service.

>>8298040

>>8298045
Last one.

>>8298040
>Delivered on Patek
>timestamp
>green table nowhere in sight
You are on the path to redemption. How much is the service.

>>8297858

actually theres a shop in Berne that sells UJ too.

http://www.uhrsachen.ch/collection/urbanjuergensen.html

>>8298059
I don't know how much it will be this time, but last time it was around 2800 dollars.

>>8298063
I didn't know that. UJ website might be outdated.

>>8298040
how much does this thing cost?

>>8298069
A lot.

>>8298016
Thanks for the reply, really interesting. I guess I fall into the category of "die-hard seiko fan".

As far as point 2 goes, they do have their Credor range but they're a whole different story.

>>8298055
>>8298045
God damn that's beautiful.

>>8298040
Oh doge, are you a son of a Ukrainian/Russian oligarch. I went to a school with very wealthy people, but nothing compared to the wealth of oligarchs.

>>8298055

Archie would be proud. could we have some more pictures of the movement? gives me a boner.

>>8298095
>Archie
Oh god don't remind me, him having to sell all his watches is the funniest shit.

>>8298095
I only got two, and the other one has been posted. You can find pics on the web if you want. I am not the most skilled photographer.

My camera is not good for super-closeup.

>>8298095
>>8298107
>luxury in the name
>gets bankrupt
Comedy gold indeed. I wonder what he's doing now to avoid getting his kneecaps smashed in by debt collectors.

>>8298064
Seems about right for Patek. Are you getting it serviced because you plan to wear it? What occasion would usually warrant wearing watch such as that?

>>8298130

hes apperently on the Fiji islands an complains in hin newest videos how the pool got closed for 3hours during daytime.

>>8298130
I wear it at formal dinners and when I am meeting clients or with my watch collecting friends. Only 3-4 times a year really. Rest of the time I wear one of my Rolex's.

I am servicing it because I intend to sell it. I would rather have a platinum A. Lange Datograph Perpetual Calender, and I can't see any reason to own both watches at once.

>>8298146

is it a pain in the ass to set time and date on a watch like this?

No love for Alfex here?

>>8298146
Or keep both, get in touch with Philippe Dufour, show him your collection and hope that it convinces him to make a watch for you. Sell both after he agrees to do so.

>>8298154
Not really.

>>8298157
Yeah, no thanks. I have friends at UJ that can do as good/better for less.

Simple elegance.

>>8298221
>I have friends at UJ

ok now im gettin kinda jelly.

>>8298221
I see. Could you commission a watch to be made entirely by hand to your specifications?
The suggestion was tongue-in-cheek, since there is a 10 year waiting list on Dufour watches.

>>8298250
I could, but the wait would be 3-4 years and it would cost over half a million dollars. I love watches, but I wont pay that kind of money for a single one.

>>8298091
Why would you assume oligarch?

>>8298467
I don't know how old this guy is so I was assuming that he didn't make his own money. The Ukrainian oligarch kids at my school were the only wealthy kid whose parent bought them shit like that; there were a lot of wealthy people from all walks, but none faulted it like they did. Probably because none of them were nearly as rich as they were.

>>8298652
Nah man, I made my own money.

>>8298671
I have to you what you do.

>>8298679
Step one: Stop being an alcoholic.

>>8298682
Then what did you do?

>>8298689
It was a joke...

>I have to you what you do

>>8298697
Gotcha, so.... what do you do?

>>8298702
I sell drugs.
(and women)

>>8298708
Serious? lol I mean, I don't doubt it. You can make a lot of money that way.

>>8298702
I come up with market strategy for a small but extremely high end luxury goods company, as well as help design the products.

I also trade stocks in my spare time.

>>8298708
>>8298717
Not me.

Anyone here with eBay experience?
I want a watch with radium, apparently they still exist:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-GENTS-MEN-HMT-SONA-17-JEWELS-SUPER-FLAT-RADIUM-FIGURES-WIND-WRIST-WATCH-/141303985445?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item20e65fb525
But what happens if it arrives and the radium isn't radium, but regular glow in the dark stuff? Will paypal refund it?

>>8298954
Paypal won't do shit, it's a total scam.

How would you check if it's real radium or not anyway? I doubt someone would lie. I'll admit the idea of a watch with a radium lume sounds cool as fuck.

>>8298954
why, its fugly

Hey /fa/, looking for a new casual watch that I can wear with almost anything. I have no idea where to start, preferrably under 200. Advice?

>>8298975
Seiko 5

>>8298969
The strap is ugly as hell but the watch itself is nice imo.

>>8298975
tommy hilfiger

>>8290253
where 2 cop m8?

Rate my watch guys

>>8298954
You're buying an HMT. Its cheap and collectible (well in the same way Gshocks are collectible. Order it and see what happens.
Keep in mind that these watches are usually refinished and the one you posted looks like it was done by an idiot. Not worth it, get a tritium watch instead if you just want something radioactive.

>>8299029
At any high-end watch AD.

>>8299034
It's like a frankenstein of Blancpain, Rolex and Omega.

Looking for a dress watch, what do you guys think of this one?

tfw they wont ship to the Netherlands ;_;
Only $22 too

>>8299092
Fine.

>>8299092
Try the master ultra thin from JLC. It is made in the same workshop as JLC's high end pieces. Or so the legend goes...

>>8299092
Get something special instead.

>>8299042
lol. it funny but think you right

>>8299168
I think this is so ugly, I'd rather get the plain JLC.

Then again I'd get >>8297847 in the spring drive version for that kind of money.

>>8299181
You have very poor taste.

>>8299168

Less is more with a dress watch. Aesthetically speaking.

>>8299187
Not true. The Patek 5970 posted earlier is a fantastic dress watch but has a lot going on.

>>8299168
>£6000 vs £30000
Slightly over his budget. And by slightly I mean very.

>>8299184
but that watch has all the different patterns everywhere and the hour pointer is a mess, for me it looks like a watch trying too hard to justify the pricetag. I don't like it and of course that is subjective.

But how do you figure that I have poor taste? The GS has amazing finishing and a timeless simple design. And yeah I'm going to buy one later this year, because I actually do appreciate the fact that not everybody will notice that I'm wearing a 6000€ watch.

>>8299193

I should have stated that was just my opinion.

I agree that is a great watch but I don't care for all that on a dress watch.

>>8299193
>>8299187

The traditional view on dress watches is two hands, clean dial and no complications. Depending on who you talk to, even a date on the dial could be considered very poor taste. You could say this faux pas is arbitrary but it exists. Depends on how well versed the company one keeps is in etiquette. I was always told there is no such thing as a dress watch because it is considered inappropriate to wear a watch with a tuxedo/at a formal event. My family is old fashioned though, modern tastes are far more liberal when it comes to things such as this.

nothing 2 flashy

>>8299213
Not the guy you're replying to but why would you pick the spring drive over the hi-beat?

>>8299361
>watch on your right arm
You better be left handed

>>8299376
oopsie hehehe

>>8299376
even if he was left handed, that's inexcusable. he is most def a faggot

>>8299389
seconded

>>8299371
Because it's a true innovation, super accurate and especially because it has the gliding second hand.
I just love how it combines (almost) quartz accuracy with mechanical watchmaking and I can't get tired of watching that second hand. I think I will buy it sooner than later.

Nothing against the hi-beat though, it's also an amazing watch. I just fell in love the spring drive.

should i get this?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007IHSCZI/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

>>8299739
Nope

>>8299739
>looks terrible
>will most likely break in a year
>looks terrible
I think you should go for it

>>8299753
Look what I found in the related section

http://www.amazon.com/Oulm-1140-Watch-Compass-Thermometer/dp/B00FEZHVUI

>>8299759
>look at the related section
>olum watches
Oh my word, I think I just got cancer. I wish i had found this earlier, it would make good trolling material for /fa/ watch threads.

>>8299773
I've seen someone use this one as bait before

http://www.amazon.com/HDE-Binary-Digital-Leather-Programmer/dp/B008JF3ILQ

I honestly kinda like the look of this one though, looks 90's sci-fi as fuck

www.amazon.com/Youyoupifa-Yellow-Green-Stainless-Fashion/dp/B00EQ1XUHY/

>>8297858
>There are 4 different fonts on the dial. That is more than enough of a reason to not buy it.
rekt

>>8298069
100's of thousands

>>8299336

new thread