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I'm a junior high school teacher. I teach kids ages 12-15. It's weird how bullying and social exclusion work. I've noticed that some of the best-looking kids are sometimes outcasts or targets of ridicule, while short/ugly children are incredibly popular. Sometimes I want to go up to those sad, lonely, beautiful children and tell them it gets better, but that would be really fucking creepy and not go according to plan.

How about you /fa/? Were you popular as a child? I was never bullied myself, but I didn't have many friends either. I only blossomed when I moved to a big city, after uni.

>> No.8237473

>>8237469
you best be making those ugly bully cretins shut the fuck up whenever you catch them.

>> No.8237479

>>8237473
I usually cut them down to size with a joke that makes the rest of the class laugh at them. I'm their teacher too though. Can't be vicious.

>> No.8237492

I had a close group of friends but didn't have any classes with them (boarding school)
I guess I was unpopular in class and in the school as a whole
I'm good looking and didn't realize back then
A few teachers would say something about me looking good, and I though that was pretty cool

>> No.8237494

>>8237479
excellent.

>> No.8237524

>>8237469
i was what you would call the stereotypical popular guy in high school. i made fun of the poor and ugly kids as well as the fat girls. i considered it doing the lords work

>> No.8237530

>>8237524
Post a fit bully

>> No.8237541
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>>8237469
i think some /fa/ people our fashionable guys in general at a young age were bullied / outcasted because their different, and i don't mean in a sense of looks but more in a sense of taste.

i mean i remember back in the day "round 2009-2010"if i walked with skinnyjeans "not even that skinny " i would be laughed at and now every faggot on the streets has one.

ofcourse it also differs from what area you live in, like in us in big major cities people would be more acceptable of how you dress our what your taste is then some hillbilly rural place
its cause these bullied kids taste is not the /norm/ aka alternative it doesn't fit the picture as perfect as the rest of the kids.

this is also a reason that i don't really like to hang out with people that are so average in everything like they listen to top 40 and shop at the same shops like blindless sheeps.


and most handsome/ cool people i know were the weird people in HS, now they are the most /fa/ cause they dont give a shit what anyone says if they want to wear something the wear it.

i mean check pic related, the change that the were treated as outcasts is pretty high.
sorry if i don't realy make sense.

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8237543

>>8237530
not me but i gave pic related a swirlie in the bathroom after school yesterday

>> No.8237547

>>8237469
I literally turned 25 yesterday and am finally in an environment where I am praised - it's weird because its so hard to trust anyone when your been treated so poorly for so long

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>>8237543
and i started a rumor about how this kid sticks tampons up his ass

>> No.8237551

I was really loud and extroverted in elementary but after middle school I became really introverted and wouldn't talk very often, aside from when I was around my circle of friends. After a couple run-ins it seems like a lot of the teachers from my younger days remember me but I doubt many from high school would.

As for you OP I think some students could probably benefit from being able to seek advice or talk to you about their problems. You don't have to be weird about it, I'm sure a lot of kids wouldn't be interested in seeing a counselor and would be more comfortable with someone they're familiar with/see on a near-daily basis. Some encouragement might help them a lot.

>> No.8237566

>>8237469
i went to rather small schools, i think there was 435 at most in my high school, 87 in my graduating class. everybody knew everybody, i was kinda a social weirdo but, i was tight with everybody.
played vidya with the nerds, smoke pot and did coke with most of the football and basketball teams and skated with mah brahs.
never really ever picked on, mostly because i REKT a few kids that tried to talk shit also, i wasn't afraid to get my ass kicked (that happened too) so i never got the whole bully thing

>> No.8237576

>>8237547

A recent study has shown that childhood bullying has such as deep effect of the psyche, that the effects last for decades.

See here for the study: http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/article.aspx?articleID=1863836

Glad to hear you have had a change of circumstances. All the best for the future, bro.

>> No.8237580

test

>> No.8237724

>>8237469
I kind of vibe to this OP post. I have always been tall and thin (natural auschwitz today) and it was always the stocky children who were the "bullies." i mean, i did look weird then, i had thick glasses and definite middle school hair, even if I would grow up to be better styled and better looking than most people i know.

i think it has more to do with value judgement. when you're that age, you just want to fit in. most kids are less concerned with developing a unique identity than a group. some kids maybe want to be a little more unique, but the ones that need more safety will single them out immediately, and thus bullying in middle school

>> No.8237731

>>8237724
by the way, after some struggling, i eventually used the times i was bullied in middle to high school as something to draw confidence from. it's tough but most kids make of out of compulsory school alive, hopefully most of them will learn from the experience that you should "not give a fuck" rather than internalize their negativity their whole life

>> No.8237737

>>8237469
I was chubby unattractive child

Still didn't have many friends

Developed full blown autism in 5th grade and didn't have any friends after that

>> No.8237743

>>8237469
when I was a kid nobody liked me that much because I was a huge dick but I was pretty imaginative and funny with the mean shit I said to the cool (ugly asshole) kids and they beat me up a lot for it. some kids came out of the woodwork and became my friends because they thought I was funny and they were pretty impressed at how I could still wise crack with blood coming out of my mouth and fat kid fists slamming into my face. I was the lead singer of a punk band I started with those guys in high school and shit was pretty fuckin dope actually. These kids need this friction and hurt, anon. Theres more you can do than you think and if anything I think you should encourage these kids to stand up for themselves instead of just being a charming little wisecracking teacher that your kids will forget in a year. Its your job as a teacher to make them the snappiest shit talker they can be. Youd be surprised at how much some kids like real human interaction from teachers, a lot of times they just look nervous because they dont really know how to talk to adults. Now listen here, anon, you could teach them the regular lessons and keep everything safe and easy and send them on their way to being a quiet timid cock sucking best buy employee or you could really teach these kids something about life that theyre not gonna hear every other year for the rest of their life. you could make a difference in a kids whole fuckin life or you could pussy foot around and be just another teacher. Think about it, anon.

>> No.8237762

When I was a kid, I used to befriend the bully. No body would fuck with me because they knew my friend was the bully. At the same time I didn't look like an asshole looser bully but had all the power.

>> No.8237784

>>8237743
This happened

>> No.8237847

>>8237762
That's just sucking up, I purposely insulted bullies so they knew that they could beat me verbally even if they could physically.
>implying I didn't just run away from fights

>> No.8237854

well, I was the bully
I also could choose literally any girl
good fucking times
I treat them like shit and they treat me like king and fight for my friendship
calmed down in the last years of school tho
being on top without the threat of physical violence is so much more enjoyable and effay.

>> No.8237937

>>8237854
this also happened

>> No.8237961

Elementary school: Pretty loud, classclown very often.

Middle school: Really, really beta. I dressed like shit and never got any girls.

High school: The summer before high-school is when I started lurking on /fa/. I got a haircut, contacts, started lifting, learned about fashion, styles and designers and high-school was a blast. I had multiple girlfriends without even trying, and one ex got me a modelling gig, which I still do along with studying. I'm a fashion student atm, and about the only heterosexual male here. Life is still pretty good, but high-school was better.

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8238059

I moved schools and towns three times as a child so I had to deal with being the 'new kid' for at least a year each time. I hadn't had a normal upbringing due to moving so much and spending the first few years of my life living in a commune, and after that a native reserve (my dad got a teaching job there). I took me a while to adjust to the norms when I was in 1st grade.

After my final move (around 4th grade) things started to pick up. I was pretty well-liked by the time I graduated elementry school and maintained a pretty good level of popularity in high school.

That's only improved since entering uni. It does get better.

>> No.8238122 [DELETED] 

i was bullied a lot in high school i guess. For high school my mom sent me to private school, so everyone was rich and I was poor. Sometimes feel like even the teachers don't give a shit about you because you are not paying their salary and your parents are involved with the school.

I had like no friends and the friends I did have were just kinda being nice to me but never really respected me.

then i went to a better uni than nearly all of them and got the hottest girlfriend.

>> No.8238132 [DELETED] 

I moved schools a lot too, I was bullied a lot in high school I guess. For high school my mom sent me to private school, so basically everyone was rich and I was poor. Sometimes feels like even the teachers don't give a shit about you because you are not paying their salary and your parents aren't privileged enough to be involved with the school like a lot of the other kids parents. Feels like nobody believes in you. Side note, my brothers also resent me because I am the youngest and they didn't get to go to private school.

Anyway, I had like no friends and the friends I did have were just kinda being nice to me but never really respected me.

Then I went to a better uni than nearly all of them and got the hottest girlfriend, etc.

>> No.8238133

>>8237469
>Sometimes I want to go up to those sad, lonely, beautiful children and tell them it gets better
>h-hey girl i-it gets b-b-b-etter
>y-you wanna come into my o-o-office to t-talk about it
>hehehehehehe

>> No.8238142

I moved schools a lot too, I was bullied a lot in high school I guess. For high school my mom sent me to private school, so basically everyone was rich and I was poor. Sometimes feels like even the teachers don't give a shit about you because you are not paying their salary and your parents aren't privileged enough to be involved with the school like a lot of the other kids parents. Feels like nobody believes in you. Side note, my brothers also resent me because I am the youngest and they didn't get to go to private school.

Anyway, I had like no friends and the friends I did have were just kinda being nice to me but never really respected me. A lot of this came from my personal style which was somewhat androgynous (half asian pretty boy i guess). People would constantly try to interrogate me about being gay and what not, because I once said that sexuality isn't a totally binary thing.

Anyway, I then went to a better uni than nearly all of them and got the hottest girlfriend, etc.

>> No.8238160

>>8238142
Was outcast in middle school.
Was okay during High School
Popular in College, I'm now very confident and understand life better, I've mostly stayed with more mature people during High School. Now some of my older classmates are impressed by it.

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>>8237469
>How about you /fa/? Were you popular as a child?
I wasn't really popular per say, but people knew who I was, partly because I was a pretty tall and a cutey, although rather quiet. I was bullied a bit in kindergarten but not really so much throughout the rest of elementary and junior high. Always had a very small group of friends, usually singling one of them out to be the one I'd actually hang out with the most. I just graduated highschool, where I was still fairly quiet and surprisingly my social life was worse than it was in junior high. It was a small private highschool and I wasn't fond of most of the people there. I talked to a lot of people but never really did much with any of them outside of class. Now I'm a freshman in college with basically no friends. The little social interaction I have is with my gf who is pretty great, but it still sucks not having any platonic friends that I can relate with.

I acknowledge I have no reason to be the way the way that I am, I can be well-liked and popular if I want to, but I don't know how for certain, nor do I know if I really want to. I don't feel like that much notoriety is really necessary, it just feels daunting to me. All I want is a small group of /fa/ buds to chill with. Maybe things will improve when I go off to uni in a different city and meet some new people.

>> No.8238218

In high school, I had a tight-knit group of friends that I had been already been hanging out with for years. Granted, some of us we're newer to the group but it didn't matter: we all felt as if we'd known each other for some time. There weren't a lot of us but we were all close. When it came the school as a whole, everyone knew everyone. I definitely wasn't popular, but I knew of everyone and usually bore no ill will

I did whatever the fuck I wanted. I was far from being a bully, but I was free, free from distinctions of "beta", or "alpha", or "autist". I could do anything and be anyone. I was without shame. I criticized without consideration for the feelings of others. I once planted a book about the struggle of a MTF transexual in the bookcase of my man-faced Civics teacher because she was so poor at teaching.

When I graduated, I went to a local university. Most of my actual friends went to other places. I feel like I've lost that freedom due to my disregard for high school. I mostly hang out with people I recognize from high school and make new acquaintances through them. I'm not particularly close to anyone new in college. People tell me college is supposed to be the best time of your life and want to cry when i hear that.

>> No.8238322

Gradeschool and Middle school was fat shy kind with no friends

Highschool I lost a bunch of weight, made a bunch of friends with some immigrant kids. Started smoking, working out, and dressing well. Once my shyness went away I turned into an extroverted pretentious asshole instead of just keeping to myself. Got several grilfriends and so on. Now taking a gap year to work and try to branch out from dadcore before going to university.

>> No.8238333

>>8238218
you sound like a faggot

>> No.8238335

>>8237541
>blindless sheep
>blindless

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>>8238180
No joke, but I am the babyface guy and I approve your post. I am just like that too.

>> No.8238387

>>8237854
>things that never happened

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>>8238059

>it gets better
>only trouble was that he had to move somewhere when he was in elementary school

wow your life was so hard you truly dealt with adversity

>> No.8238412

switched through 4 different schools up until 3rd grade when my mom put me in a small Catholic school. started getting bullied in 4th grade because of the music I liked(a lot of 2000's emo and metalcore(lol I know right)), because I was smart, because I was a little bit of a goody-good, and to be honest on my part I was a little bit of a bitch. Also I had some problems at home so I was often really sad or quiet, hence I got teased for being "depressed" all the time and it just got worse. This only lasted until 7th grade and for the rest of middleschool noone really bothered me and I stayed in the background. That's about the extent of bullying for me.

>> No.8238428

>>8238180
That last paragraph is me in a nutshell with my school life. I only went to school to get good grades and never cared much about socialising outside making acquaintances so I don't look lonely during lunch. But now I'm regretting it because I'm in community college and the lack of friendships with common interests is killing me due to the boredom. Hopefully things will change when I transfer to a state college next year.

>> No.8238465

>>8237543
;)
i know u from reddit

>> No.8238577

>>8238465
:^)

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>>8237469
i know exactly what you are talking about. the most beautiful people at my school kinda out-casty... which is cool. i wish i was more of an outcast. i wish i wasn't aquatinted with half the people i know right now

idk where i am with popular/unpopular
i am good looking enough and i know everyone at my school.. but i hang out with the science/nature kids most.

>> No.8238862

lmfao at all these fucking retards. this is some reddit circle jerk going on here.

>> No.8238869

>>8238180
>>8238371
>>8238428
Shit these are all me, I was the cute-baby face guy, hated my face since then, really conscious about my appearance now. Also the boredom of not knowing anyone with similar interests.

>> No.8238882

>>8238333
It feels bad man.

>> No.8239013

>tfw talked about shooting the school up with my friend back in highschool

good thing we were pussies cuz I really think we wouldve done it

>> No.8239017

>>8238812
you look really like this peurto rican drag queen called april carrion.

>> No.8239030

>>8237469

M, 23, I grew up in a bizarre environment.

I was pudgy for most of middle school, my weight stayed the same but I got taller, giving me a slimmer look. Lost the moobs around junior year.

Had a lot of friends in middle school, some of my highschool friends are still my best bros, made a solid set of friends in college that I still chill with on the weeknds.

My family has always criticized me on my weight.

My dad is skinnyfat, my mom is borderline landwhale, my brother is fit as fuck, and my sister is absolutely average in every sense of the word (think default female character creation from a PS1 era game).

>you're eating a lot there, anon
>whens the baby due, anon?
>why aren't you playing any sports, anon?

At first I thought it was me being an angsty teen cunt, then my mom got a tummy tuck, gained the weight back, and still continued to criticize me at any turn. My brother and I made amends once we figured out our mom is extremely in denial about body image.

Out in public I had this sort of anxiety that people were staring because I was fat. You think people don't notice eye rolls, teeth sucking, or sighs? I constantly dreaded going to school because I didn't want people to stare at me despite not one person actually giving me shit.

Living at home proved to be extremely detrimental to my psychological health. Decided to go away for college, moved back to NY but opted to get my own place.

Now, I'm 5'10, 175 lbs, but still feel out of shape. I've had people tell me I look fine, fit, etc, but I just can't help but think I'm just not good enough. For anyone. It sucks because I know I only feel this way because of the accumulated bullshit I grew up with.

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>>8237469
I was a chubby child who had to move around a lot. I developed a witty, humorous personality, because I kept losing friends. It was a coping mechanism. Those who don't have to deal with hard first impressions won't understand.

It's good I bloomed later on into a handsome man. Too bad I get treated really weird by a lot of people. It's not nice that people think I'm dumb.

>> No.8240514

>>8237566
thats not small. thats pretty big. we had 300 in our school, and 50 in my year

>> No.8240557

lmao all of you seemed to have shitty lives as kids.
I never found a person I genuinely liked so I was usually alone, which I preferred if it meant not listening to the fuckwad 8th grade boys.

I guess its just my personality but I've never been one to put up with bullying (i told the teacher straight up when I was bullied and they got called into the office) and I would try my best to stick up for those who were being bullied, specifically the mentally disabled kids who were of particular interest to the popular group.
The bullies in my school just seemed like they were crying out for love and attention and acceptance to me that it was almost more sad than hurtful
i just knew this sorta shit was beneath me! And now I'm an adult and I still deal with it!

>> No.8240564

>>8240514
1.25k in our school with 250 in each year roughly

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>be me in first grade
>get bullied and beaten up constantly for no reason by guys in my class
>this happens almost daily, afraid to tell my parents
>become really quiet, one day my parents ask me out about this
>tell them about everything under tears
next day:
>get beaten up again in the school yard
>out of sudden, my dad appears
>he took his day off and watched the school yard
>storms to the bullies (my dad is like 6' 2'' 220lbs), lifts the biggest one of them up and screams at him never to touch me again
It stopped from then, and we kinda became bros. Also, 3-4 girls were in love with me in elementary school at the same time, kek

>> No.8240646

I moved around until about grade 3. At that school I was bullied and I had a pretty shocking home life, so I read and topped most of my classes. I was chubby and shy as well. That continued until the start of grade 11 when I went fuck it. I moved states to live with relatives, lost weight, cut my hair and attempted to be social after that everything was great.
but yeah 4 years later and occasionally I still get insecure and all that bs.

>> No.8240655

I was popular for a while, moved countries, bullied immediately at new school for acne, tried to kill myself twice. Always been good looking but have shit skin, now that it's clearing up I get compliments all the time.

Self-esteem wounds cut deep though. Pretty sure that's why I like fashion in the first place - a way to look better that didn't involve my face.

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I was, in a way, cyberbullied for a year, but that's about it. I had a big group of nerd/weeaboo/alternative friends on both schools I attended to. On the second one I basically started the group but I wasn't the leader or anything like that.

Being /fa/ or not had no effect because we used uniforms.

I was an outcast in spirit, but when I was in school I had to adapt. Like "okay, I'm here, let's do this" so I had a friendly relation with a lot of people. Almost never met anyone outside school hourseven though they constantly invited me. School noticed this and sent me to a psychologist but that didn't work.

Then I went to college, trying to change my attitude, but still, massive introverted/weirod. Anyway I met some really cool people but I dropped out first year and had to move back to my city and it was too painfull to keep contact with them only via Facebook knowing there is no way I'm ever gonna see them again so I cut all contact with them and society.

Now I'm full social outcast, never leaving aprtment, only have one friend I chat constantly with. She studies fashion design so that's cool.

>implying anyone read this shit
Well I read every post here. A man can hope.