/fa/ - Fashion

can you name a /fa/ mechanical pencil

>>8123113

Old picture.

>>8123139
Uni Kuru Toga Roulette Model Aut

>>8123152
wow nice but I already have a kuro toga pencil but its not that specific one you mentioned. any other suggestions?

is messy handwriting /fa/

>>8123161
Rotring 600?

>>8123166
>Being able to write on a tablet

>>8123179
You're right, writing on a tablet is near impossible

near chicken scatch

>>8123154
Have that same pencil, love it. Been with me for 4ish years now.

not very

>>8123203

It's in my top three since forever, well balanced, good grip, nice lead advancement and it just won't break.

>Another pic of my handwriting.

how do I improve my handwriting /fa/

please help me

>>8123255
>implying ruled notebook will ever be as fa as blank pages

>>8123259
Look up styles of handwriting you enjoy. Emulate it. Make sure you use good form, which can be learned from a variety of places. I started out with these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9iTejumckU&list=PLB8CD1114A6E6AC38

>>8123265
Even with calligraphy you have to make guidelines on your blank paper if you want to make straight lines. I don't think it matters if you take notes/journal in lined paper, it's much more practical for most things.
I don't even see where he is implying anything, just posting handwriting.

>>8123279

that is way too hard I don't really understand

>>8123255
You have a closer view to see letter forms?

>>8123301
You'll have to be more specific if you want help then. "I don't understand" isn't useful, you have to be able to articulate what you don't understand. You can do what is in the video with a pencil, just keep your angles consistent and work off an exemplar

>>8123315

whoa holy shit what the fuck is going on in that pic

>>8123255
>>8123154
>>8123113
Were you beat when you were a child?
Were you forced to write like this?
Because jesus fuckin christ that's like OCD board-line autism neat
>me b a science major
>notes are a mess
>always jointing something, mess as fuck
>everything is a mess because who has the fuckin time

>>8123255
>>8123203
>>8123154
what pencil is this

Not great but it's legible.

>>8123335
Don't think OP and the other two are same. Some people just like to have beautiful handwriting. Brings a sense of accomplishment to everything they write. I write in pen a lot, so I want my notes/poetry/etc. to be legible for easy copying. Plus I do calligraphy, it is a good skill to have imo.

>>8123343
Pentel Smash drafting pencil.

>>8123335
the better at handwriting you are the faster you write, and notes become much more comprehensible. it's pretty much a time saver in the end.

>>8123355

how do I start doing calligraphy

what's a good pen and ink to start with

how do I be as amazing as you

>>8123381

Bullshit

I write slower whenever I try to write neat, you're talkin bullshit

>>8123388
>Leonard Principal nib
>Oblique nib holder
>Old world ink
>Quality paper that will take dip ink (Rhodia, Kokuyo, some Clairefontaine, Arches hot press watercolor for projects)

Can't tell if sarcasm, but here you go.

>>8123397
It takes longer to write neatly, but as you increase in skill you are going to be able to perform the same characters at faster speeds. In addition you will be able to write them smaller, which will increase speed as well. I disagree with the statement "the better at handwriting you are the faster you write," mostly because it isn't a guarantee, you have to work towards improving speed as well as form. But I think the more practice you put in more potential for faster handwriting exists.

>>8123406

put it in layman's terms

>>8123406

wait but where's the pen?

is there like a book I can get or something?

>>8123397
well obviously it's slower the neater you try to write, but if you actually become better at writing it will look better at whatever speed you use. just because someone is good at handwriting doesn't mean he can only handwrite his absolute best. my handwriting at regular speed looks a lot better than anything i could do a year ago even if i had 10 times the amount of time.

>>8123406

w2c old world ink

actually w2c all that

>>8123432
>johnnealbooks.com

Or, you know, google the shit and stop being such a technology-illiterate faggot.

>>8123439
You have to get the nib and the nib holder. Essentially the nib is what the tip of a pen is, and the holder is just a convenient way to swap out nibs for different tasks. My mentor has around 20 different pens with different nibs for certain scripts.

Few good sites for supplies:
http://www.paperinkarts.com/
http://www.johnnealbooks.com/

>>8123458

i wish I had a mentor

you're so much more /fa/ for me

Pick your poison.

>>8123458

Do I have it right

>>8123559
Yeah, you'll probably want to get more than one nib though. They are not as resilient as ballpoints and the tines will likely break and bend after some use, especially when just starting out.

>>8123597

you're a bloody genius

>>8123458
>>8123406

>telling someone new to buy all this shit

You don't need all of this if you're a beginner, especially Old World Ink since he'll probably just waste it on fuck ups. I'd say best bet is to go to your local arts store, buy up whatever nibs and holders you can, as well as whatever ink you can find, along with a sketchbook, then order a calligraphy book

>>8123540

>>8123624

i hope i can get on your level some day

it's /fa/ because it's like a wise thing

god damn your life is so cool

>>8123619
Yeah, he could get a bunch of cheap stuff, but if he wants to do calligraphy he might as well have quality supplies. That is just my philosophy. I don't think you could waste a whole bottle on fuck-ups.

>>8123631
there's nothing /fa/ about being a suck up, anon

>>8123640

how long did it take to get to that level dude

please tell me i dont think ill ever get there

>>8123631
>Someone else has interests and I just can't stand it!

I don't understand why people have to be such butt-heads

Lol

>>8123640
whats this kind of stuff for then

i feel like the materials i need are more complicated than you're telling me

>>8123659
Well, the italic nib is a broad-edged nib which is used for gothic, italic, uncial, and numerous other styles. The copperplate one is strange because none of the calligraphers around here will use a straight holder for copperplate. The materials you need are what I stated, make sure you have good paper too, because the ink will just bleed on most regular lines paper.

>>8123677

what do you recommend?

and how big should the paper be? i'm noticing that on these rhodia and kokuyo books they seem more like small note pads

>>8123709
wtc pen

>>8123709

wow best post of the thread

>>8123709
How do you do your m's like that?

>>8123684
I have the 10x7 kokuyo and the triomphe clairefontaine pads. Rhodia makes large pads too, but I don't use them, I see plenty of people using the Rhodia for practice.

>>8123684
I would use watercolor paper for any kind of project, but it'll be a while before you really need I would imagine.

>>8123647

>>8123753

im honestly not trying to be mean though

>>8123727
this?

http://www.jetpens.com/Kokuyo-Campus-Wide-Twin-Ring-Notebook-Special-B5-7.5-X-10-30-Lines-70-Sheets-Blue/pd/4896

>>8123657
w2c pen?

>>8123871
http://www.jetpens.com/Kokuyo-Campus-Notebook-Semi-B5-7-X-9.8-Normal-Rule-35-Lines-X-100-Sheets/pd/6752

I use these for the most part

>>8123861
Maybe I meant to reply to someone else. It is impossible to discern tone and general mood here. Sorry. I have like 300ish hours into it. Not all Spencerian. Been working on it since last summer.

>>8123154
post a straight-on shot of your handwriting

>>8123255
>>8123154

This doesn't even make sense, how fucking small is that? Fucking aspie.

Meh, it's all over the place.

>>8125539
i can tell you're a good drawer
>tfw creative but can't draw

one day ill figure out how 2 make the font good

>>8125876
>that nail polish

P-please post toes.

>>8126001

>>8123113
>>8123154
>>8123255

W2C sexy handwriting