/fa/ - Fashion

u tell me, i don't rly like him

>>8023275
You tell me, he doesn't really ride them.

>>8023266
why do you ride ricks dick so hard

>>8023275
bc i like his work?

dickride means 'to suck up to' tho right

idk how i can suck up to some1 i've never met but i imagine ur meaning to say 'why do you like him' or whatever

>>8023288
idk it seems like you only like him like its the end all be all
its all i hear you talking about

>>8023303
yea i def talk about him more than others he's my favourite designer (づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ

i don't ignore the work of other ppl tho rick's work just resonates w/ me more u know

>>8023322
what im asking is why

Mmmh, i like the fact that's it's very wearable. Ricky, Ann etc. tend to feel so costumesque - detached from life.

>>8023325
WORKING OUT IS MODERN COUTURE

>>8023329

>>>/fit/

>>8023333
do you even RO ss14

>>8023246

he constantly evolves and is super versatile

raf simons
helmut lang
CCP
takahiro miyashita
hedi slimane

the rest go in the trash

>>8023339
Used to make clothes for overthrowing the bourgeois, now he makes clothes for young dads.

>>8023322
you'd look a lot better in Raf,tho. Your face and general looks just don't work with Rick imo. But whatever makes you happy.

>>8023325
oh kk

u know how great it is 2 be wearing stuff and never think about adjusting it or touching it or anything cuz its made of such gorgeous shit and constructed so beautifully that is just looks gr8 on ur body w/e ur doing????

a dude that can produce collection after collection of clothes that look fantastic thrown together w/ zero effort on the wearers part is a man that needs 2 be worshipped w/ our full attention

right??????

>>8023346
hypebeast

>>8023346
>muh /fa/shions

Hiromichi Ochai
Daiki Suzuki
Nigel Cabourn
Takahiro Miyashita
Thom Browne

are my favourites

>>8023351
>>8023353
solid posts keep the good work

>>8023328
I see what you mean, but personally I feel like Rick's basic stuff is perfectly wearable, and while Raf might be more wearable overall I really feel like I can enhance an otherwise basic or straightforward outfit with a signature/standout piece from Ann or Rick a lot easier than I could with something from Raf
>Any of his later stuff, anyway

Rick

>>8023361
>Hiromichi Ochai
Hiromichi Ochiai is your favourite but you cannot even spell his name, are you perhaps a poser?

>dar swag

>>8023375
you wrote the same thing as he did, who's laughing now fuccboi?

>captcha conjecture clarity

>>8023375
Just a typo, sorry :O)

>>8023382
huehuehue

>>8023361
>Nigel Cabourn

lol. that's what i imagine a financially comfortably redditor wearing

>>8023365
Mm, i feel ya.

>a signature/standout piece from Ann or Rick
Any examples? I have a vague idea, but not sure if we're thinking bout the same ting.

Maurizio Altieri
Maurizio Amadei
Luca Laurini
Yoko Ito
Issey Fujita
Mariavittoria Sargentini

Those are just personal favorites
If I had to give a single answer as the best designer of the past few decades, it would be either Walter Van Beirendonck, Carol Christian Poell or Yohji Yamamoto

>>8023246
if its made past 2005 its garbage and if its made before 2005 its hype trash for kids on sufu

>>8023421

what if it's made in 2005

>>8023430
one of the best

>>8023430
its good

pro hint: my velcros are 2005 lel

im finna sell tho

>>8023438
what style do u see urself moving towards trunks
or r u you just going to keep buying random stuff and putting it on and hoping it workds

>>8023438

post pics

>>8023440
weren't u mean about me earlier

>>8023447
Pigfuck just spouts inane garbage all the time anyway, he isn't worth your trouble
Also he called Miyashita and Slimane two of the greatest designers of all time haha

>>8023342

whats wrong with being bourgois/patrician u pleb

or with being a young dad virgin fuck

>>8023447
i think i meant turnleft but wrote tinfoil

>>8023397
Signature pieces, more regular stuff they're known for (Ramones, for example, or a Rick leather) and standout pieces being things that might only be part of one season's collection and so might not be as obviously associated with a designer but are still amazing (the Ann D cutout vest from... last season? One before? Stuff like that)

Rick for example, his leathers, Ramones, Geos, memphis jeans, bombers
I really wouldn't feel I could work one Raf piece in with the same effect as any of that stuff
Then again I'm a fuccboi so...

>>8023455
regular as in production, not design

And all that doesn't make much sense anyway, sorry guys I'm pretty tired

>>8023443
boring old man fag shit but with sweet capes and robes

maybe like a hobo with schizophrenia and sweet ostrich leather accessories

why does every tripfag's name on this board start with a t anyway? I can't keep you shitstains apart. Is trunks the one with the diaper?

>>8023452
Miyashita probably is

>>8023452
hahaha I'll remember that, the fuccboi

>>8023454
nothing
I was just remarking upon the change, that's all.

>>8023454

> what's wrong with being bourgeois

>>8023467
That's not the problem, mate.

>>8023477
Then why do you call it out as if it is?

>>8023480
I'm not him
and
>slimane

>>8023467
Not really
Most of his collections at Number (N)ine were pretty derivative of other designers (Especially Ann) and he drew far too heavily from his real life inspiration, even if the manufacturing was fantastic. When he had good collections, they were legitimately fantastic (AW09) but so much of his work was extremely choppy, he just moved around from aesthetic to aesthetic, and rather than incorporating these ideas into a Number (N)ine universe or something similar, every collection was quite radically different. There's very little coherence in Number (N)ine's world.
He's a much better stylist than he is a designer to be honest.
That being said, he seems to be pretty consistent with The Soloist so far, I guess you could cite that as credentials for "best of all time status", but the label isn't that old, and comparing him to Ann, Rick, Walter, Maurizio, Carol, etc, I think it's hard to call him the best

>>8023486
Oh, apologies. and yeah I don't really like Slimane either

>>8023493
No worries, mate.
Even if you liked him I doubt you'd be able to call him one of the greatest designers of all time with a straight face...

I like a lot of designers.

Damir Doma.
Yohji.
Boris Bidjan Saberi.
Balmain.
Maison Martin Margiela.
Rick Owens Raf Simons.
Julius.

RO is best for me though.

>>8023498
le 16 year old hypebeast goes on /fa/ for a month face

Ann D

>>8023496
Number (N)ine's aesthetic was always held together by its music influences. It's pretty similar to Slimane in that way...only..you know...good. A lot of Japanese designers to quite radical shifts from season to seasons,though. So I don't really see the problem here.

>>8023496
>and rather than incorporating these ideas into a Number (N)ine universe or something similar, every collection was quite radically different. There's very little coherence in Number (N)ine's world.

everything has to be a 'universe' with you tumble fashion blogger 'critics', ricks 'universe' anns 'vision' who cares.

he made what collections based on what he loved and what inspired him, in the same vein as raf. thats all that matters.

>>8023497
Yeah, SLP is kind of a joke now IMO. Dior Homme stuff was pretty tolerable, only thing I really liked from SLP was the leathers and the harness boots were alright

>>8023496
I always like the rawness in his pieces, and I can really feel where he originally started with fashion in them too, especially Soloist. Plus, he's probably my favourite dressed designer too

>>8023511
i dont really like n(n) but yeah

"duhh youre only a good fashion designer if you do x and y"

fuck off with your stem major bullshit, why dont u suck his cock for doing different shit every season, omg its a radical change! so inventive and original!

>>8023452
I like pigfuck, pigfuck i like you.

>>8023510
>A lot of Japanese designers to quite radical shifts from season to seasons
Yes, and that's a criticism I have of his contemporaries as well, especially Takahashi
>>8023511
A good designer translates their influences into their own world as part of their own aesthetic vision, whereas a poor designer simply takes the inspiration, transposes it directly into their collection with a few tweaks, and calls it a day.
People care because a designer should be presenting a unique worldview. Look at Beirendonck, he's been influenced by everything from Post-Punk to Beuys, but everything he's done has felt his own, whereas Miyashita feels consumed by his influences.

>>8023533
watch out this guy objectively knows what makes a designer good or bad

better not have any opinions around here

>>8023523
http://blog.livedoor.jp/re_commend/archives/2005-12-22.html

Btw Piggy, found this blogpost from 05 bout that Raf Curriculum bomber.

>>8023533
>People care because a designer should be presenting a unique worldview
should it?

>>8023533
>taking fashion, or any art, this seriously
kek

they're clothes m8. either they look good, subjectively, and are made well or they're shit. not any more complicated than that.

>>8023533
But the mesh of different aesthetics and influences is basically what makes Number (N)ine Number (N)ine. Look at how Miyashita dresses. It's exactly that.

>>8023501
Yeah, you're so much better right trunks?

I don't need to take shit from the caveman who buys 2nd hand everything.

>tfw a pretty motherfucker
>Raf Simons, Rick Owens usually what I'm dressed in.
>still no qt fashion killa GF

>>8023543
Yes it should, it's what separates a designer from a stylist to be honest
>>8023550
I don't agree with this. Obviously some labels are legitimately only out to make a product with no real symbology/meaning behind it - for example, Guidi. It's just high quality product-as-product
But for runway shows were the designers is supposed to be communicating something to us, I think it should be discussed, and designers should represent their influences in an interesting, personalized and non-literal way.

>>8023542
>MA-1 to celebrate the 10th anniversary of his debut collection of RAF SIMONS, were sold in 20 pieces limited in Isetan. theme of the collection was carried out until now have been enumerated in the back.

i wonder if thats the case, if there is only 20 in the world theres been a huge chunk of that on yahoo in the last 4 months alone. could be true though. who is the author?

>>8023533
all this reads like the inside of a first year fashion students textbook. designers should design whatever they choose, there shouldnt be an arbitrary set of paradigms to fulfill or framework in which to work within. miyashita designed collections based on what he loved, much of this was musical, his interpretation of some of his influences may have been very literal, particularly the axl rose and kurt cobain collections, but that shouldnt diminish the evaluation of the final product which was always amazing.

>>8023560
>someone bothered writing all that
>all those syntactic errors
>'cousin's friend's disabled grandad's gurned jaw'

>>8023568
But it wasn't amazing, that's the thing
I'm sorry, but I have no idea how someone can look at a collection like SS06 and say "fantastic"
Yes, he may have worked with great producers, he always had fantastic fabrics, but frankly his design work is all inspiration and no creative talent. Like I said, he just transposes the looks onto the runway rather than considering the influences and repurposing them in Number (N)ine's philosophical framework, simply because there is none.
It's like a cover band, they may all be virtuosic musicians who play with a high degree of technical skill and may slightly re-arrange the pieces, however they're still entirely indebted to the original pieces, and anyone can see that, there's limited creativity. They're not taking inspiration from something and creating something new and experimental, they're just recycling other people's output

>>8023581
i think that became a defining traits of much of the mid 2000s collections, the fact that it was entirely a direct re-appropriation of inspiration into the paradigm of a collection. if anything thats exactly what the nn universe was, its defining trait was its eclecticism, an amalgam of cultural, musical, social epithets and monickers in what at times was a totally obvious manner, and thats what people loved.

you won't dress head to toe in nn like you would ann or ro, the collections as they were presented were not envisioned to be worn that way. the runway was a spectacle for the concept, a tribute to the influence. then you bought what you liked and incorporated it into your wardrobe.

nn is dead now and that is its legacy, it was obviously a conscious decision to steer the label in that direction, pay tribute to what he wanted and then put it to rest.

hes also obviously maintaining a thematic and stylistic congruency with the soloist.

nn was a different animal though, and thats why ppl love it.

>>8023568
Unsure, found it in my bookmarks. I doubt there being only 20, seen atleast 10 in the last year.

>>8023533
prove it

>>8023604
>you won't dress head to toe in nn like you would ann or ro, the collections as they were presented were not envisioned to be worn that way
>then you bought what you liked and incorporated it into your wardrobe
And that's the problem. It lacks the intercontextuality of another designer's more realized world.
I think the reason for this is because Miyashita's roots do still come from his streetwear background and his lack of substantial technical knowledge when starting out.
People were, at the time of Number (N)ine most concerned with copping the cashmere balloon beanies or the new jeans or even the suit, all items Miyashita put out season after season. Basically, he operated in the same way as Supreme - literal translations of influence, issue of coveted items that will be sellers as well as the hyped items of the season. That's the kind of consumer base Miyashita targeted.

Shame that sort of thing is what defines so much of Rick's consumer base as well though - Sneakers, perhaps combats, jeans, tshirts and perhaps a leather
Oh well

>>8023630
>I think the reason for this
opinions are like assholes

>>8023617

>>8023636
Fuck off, I have no desire wasting my time replying to some no-name trip
Pigfuck might be a dimwit, but at least he's a notable dimwit
Go fritter away your time anywhere, I've already discussed this throughout the thread, if you lack the ability to read and form your own conclusions and arguments, that's not my problem

>>8023640
i fucked your mom

also u got owned thats why u posted that ha. ha. ha.

reported and ignored, goodbye idiot gaybo

>>8023561

post fit