/fa/ - Fashion

>>8018189
your early twenties, as your growth stops your jaw stops developing too

and a rhinoplasty can make you go from a 4/10 to a solid 7

>>8018189
who's that model

bump

when will my jawline start developing;_;

>>8018319
obviously jill sander....

>>8018600
epic

srsly tho

>>8018544
How old are you?
If you're older than 20-22, it won't ever unless you get implants

BUMP

>>8019113
I think >>8018222 pretty well answered your question. Did you want a second opinion or something?

I'll just drop this here.

Stay jelly, y'all.

Chew some gum (srs)

At the end of the day your jaw and temples will be sore as all fuck, but you'll look better after.

one side of my face is more defined than the other it is weird
the bones of the left side of my face are more pronounced; at the chin there is a bump on the bone. the other side in contrast is very smooth an rounded
i hate it; i just want symmetry one way or the other

>>8019282
Disgusting ass the mask jawed motherfucker

>>8019352
symmetry is overrated, embrace your baroqueness

would applying prolonged pressure to the jaw, in the period it is growing, influence it's shape?

If I was to press my growing jaw inwards to make it narrower would it actually have any effect over any period of time or would that just be delusional

>>8019418

>>8019418
are you retarded?

this dude and he is like 16

http://germanpornstar.tumblr.com/tagged/me

mai new male model-fu

>>8019366
You suffer from a severe case of autism. As if that wasn't bad enough, you're fucking ugly.

(iktfb)

>tfw we'll never be as good looking as Tom
>tfw nobody will ever have his god-tier jawline

>>8019632
Hahahahaha TERRIBLE. Fuck. Now, in the words of >>8019366, that's DISGUSTING. Blegh.

>>8019648
lol

>>8019323
Pseudoscience

>>8019654
I bet you like Cole Mohr,pleb

>>8019718
Seriously, how'd you know? I bet you try to be goth ninja instead of normcore.

w2c nice jawline

how much does the surgery run for
is there a difference between orthognastic surgery and implants? My upper jaw is too "high up" (or whatever the dentist said I don't remember), can it be taken care of by insurance and health care

>>8019975
bump

>>8019418
the aztecs or something did this with wooden planks so their children developed with triangular heads
so potentially yes but youd need to walk around with pieces of wood strapped yo ur head

>>8023012
>>8019418
yep its artificial cranial deformation.

>>8019975
do you mouth breath?

>stopped mouth breathing with the help of adderall
>jaw line improved massively

>>8023036
I try to breathe only with my nose yes.

>>8018189
how old are you? you could hope for a growth spurt or major changes if you're under 20

>>8023047
is that knochs brother?
crap he got all the good genes didnt he

>>8023047
Yeah I'm under 20.

Thing is my genetics are bullshit, my father has jaw problems, and although I don't have any medical issues with my jaw, it's shapeless.

Can I hope to not end up looking too much like my father?

>>8023047
>tfw turkish

>>8023052
>brother
they are not even the same ethnicity

>>8023056
very unlikely then, you can always save up for surgery though

or pretend your jawline problems make you psychologically ill, if you live in a nice country the insurance will pay

>>8023071
How much does the surgery cost and what does it consist in?

Worst thing is my mother has really good genetics but I apparently inherited my father's, fuck him

>>8023078
depends on your country

could be as low as 5k or as high as 20

>>8023088
USA.

I saw a pic floating around of a guy pre-surgery and post-surgery. Before the op he had a crooked jew nose and a nonexistent jaw, and after it, he had a nice smooth nose and a defined jawline.

Is there any kind of surgical procedure that fixes both the nose and jaw?

>>8023100
he just got two different ones

Orthognathic surgery

and

Rhinoplasty

>>8023109
oh
in the USA how much would the total be (assuming I'm going for a qualified and competent surgeon)?
Is nineteen years old too early for a surgery?

tbh my insecurity might stem from the fact that I don't want to look like my father for various reasons, I just want my appearance to have nothing to do with him

>>8023119
Go to a shrink then.

probably around 20k for everything and 19 is too young

>>8023047
the guy on the left would still be hot shit if he wasnt a fat fuck

>>8023131
A shrink?

Why is 19 too young, is it because I might still develop? I don't believe I would, I've been an ugly motherfucker since my early teens, I'm not magically gonna become handsome

20k isn't that much, I suppose loans don't exist for cosmetic surgery though?

>>8023146
I've seen him skinny on other pics with the guy on the left so it was probably just a phase

>>8023150
Well, you should seek psychological help instead since your problems are deeper rooted than you looks.

>>8023175
Oh, psychiatrists don't help. Or at least they didn't do shit for me.

as long as those 20k can make me look different enough, those problems will disappear

>>8023047
tfw no knoch-tier hair genetics

>>8023183
they wont. If anything they'll get worse because you'll realize nothing has changed

you will always be the fruit of his loins

>>8023187
how is ur hair so dry

>>8023347
>nothing has changed
it's about appearance, so yes it will have changed
>you will always be the fruit of his loins
Apart from making me feel better by making me more attractive physically, it'll be more of a symbolic act than anything else

Hard to describe anyway

>>8023374
also u can prolly fuck a hotter girl then ur kids wont be stuck with the same weak ass genetics

>>8023378
I don't want to have kids as of now, it'd be a dick move to give them those genetics anyway

>>8023384
>>8023374
you sound like those virgins who think everything will change to the better once they had sex

>>8023564
At least I'll look better

>>8023047
btw what happened to knochen? i frequented /fa/ when he was still active then left now came back and he's nowhere to be seen

>>8023595
knoch is kill

>>8023047
knoch is so fuckin ethereally beautiful
lets take a moment to appreciate and be destroyed by the fact that none of us look like this

>>8023595
he didn't care anymore and left

>>8018189
..so if you have a powerful nordic jaw you can pull off the oy vey nose?
>Half Swedish half Russian Jew reporting in

>>8023012
dammit mate, spat birch juice all over my keyboard

>>8023012
I would think... I mean, you hear about cone head babies that got vacuumed out and shit... but that's babies you know?

>>8023635
Yes

But tbh a manly jaw AND a non-jew nose is better than a manly jaw and an oy vey nose

It looks purer

i don't know but i lost weight and went from a 4/10 to an 8/10

>>8024823
wat

>>8024823
>8/10
don't go on /soc/

>>8024823
u went from a 3/10 to a 4/10 man stop deluding yrself

How expensive is it to get jaw implants for a better jawline?
Is the procedure painful/complicated/dangerous?

>>8024823
more like from 1/10 to 2/10

>>8024846
>>8024836
>>8024830
>>8024823
it's a /fit/ thing guys
just stp

>>8024823
You seriously need to do something with your hair, looks nasty as fuck. Also go to some bitchy salon or something and ask them to do your eyebrows in a way that would make the angle of your eyes less depressed. Sorry but you're definitely not an 8/10.

>>8024851
bump

R8 or h8

>>8023187
knoch hair genetics? you know his hairline is receding?

> tfw 18
> tfw there's still time

>>8025151
Fag/8

>>8023036
When you mean you stopped mouth-breathing, does that mean you stopped at a young age while your jaw was still developing or more recently?

>>8025151

pluck your eyebrows

>>8019975

> tfw could've gotten medically insured orthognatic surgery when I was 14 through my orthodontist

I posted on a different thread but it's dead. What ya guys think of an ivy league haircut (military style)?

>>8025189
DONT TELL PEOPLE THAT
it takes ages and big manly eyebrows are in atm

>>8025193
Surgery at 14?

Elaborate pls

>>8026244
Grow out the top, keep sides short.

>>8027588
it's when you get surgery and are 14 years old. this is not a difficult concept.

Can facial aesthetics be even moderately fixed by dropping body fat? I'm skinnyfat and I've not got that much of a defined face, which I hate. It's not as bad as I make it sound though.

>>8025165
It isn't. His hairline has been like that on every picture ever.

>>8019352
oh god i have exactly this

>>8023036
that's like saying nose breathing will make your nose bigger

>>8025165
He has a high hairline, not a receding one.

just like
>>8028192
said

If it was receding there would have been a change in his photos but his hairline looks the same over years.

>>8027706
You're not supposed to get surgery when you're fourteen though, that's what I find strange

>>8023047
wherethefuck2cop rare knoch pics?

>>8028355
be an oldfag

>>8028359
only one I ever bothered saving was this

>>8028362
and this

>>8028362
>those shoulders
>those hands
>that hair

embarrassing

>>8028365

lmao what a fagit

>>8028370
>not liking knoch

dude wot

>>8028378

hes alright but kinda faggy, i wouldnt say i like him but i do not not like him xd

>>8028370
Fuck up, cur

u guys I fucking love knock much...but fucking hate the fact that I'm not him
why live...
>inb4 knock samefagging

>>8028362
>rare archival

>>8028370
you're just mad you can't pull off anything not even your own racial predisposition

>>8028384
>knock

>>8028384
knoch*

>>8028391
post more
>>8028388
I'm tired okay

>>8028391

i dont know what are you talking about so imma take it as disrespectful so fuck you

>>8028382

i dont know what are you talking about so imma take it as disrespectful so fuck you

>>8028396
>disrespectful
You got that part right at least.
Fuck up, mongrel.

>>8028404

fuck you fag fight me irl you piece of shit

>>8028410
i dont want to go to south africa, I'll have to mingle with shitskins and mongrels like you
what'd you say to me you fuccboi? I'm a 6'2 model draped in Ann Demeulemeester

>>8028415

> 6'2

fucking manlet faggot, when will you learn?

>>8028395
no

>>8028502
pls I beg of u, anon

How do I come to terms with the fact that I'm a 6/10 at best, /fa/?

I mean I dress as well as I can, I'm not too much of a manlet, I groom and take care of myself, but still. How do I deal with the fact that I'm unattractive facially?

A lot of things are wrong with my face - ears, jawline, nose, smile...

Is there any not too expensive surgery that could generally improve my appearance? I don't know what to do

I have an above average jawline but a shit chin
feels bad but i still look pgood

>>8030068
post pic

>>8018189
I look a lot like the model in OP but with a bit flatter jaw
what would you rate him?

>>8030123
I'd rather not... Later perhaps

I'm looking for general advice

>>8030151
there are no general advice in attractiveness
there are different kinds of beauties like different kinds of uglies

>>8030163
I think my description was enough, though...
Which kind of surgical procedure would be the most noticeable between ostoplasty, rhinoplasty, jaw surgery, etc

>>8030172
depends on your face

show your face

>>8030176
As I said I'd rather not, so whatever
At least I'm not deformed, I guess

get on his level. all of you.

>>8030068
If you have more than a single thing wrong with your face surgery won't change a thing.

Surgery "miracles" only happen when "that ugly guy" had nothing wrong but a jaw or a nose deformity.

>>8030231
IMO my jaw (too weak), nose (too big) and ears (too big) are all wrong. I'm wondering which surgery (because spending 50 grand on surgery isn't an option) would at least tone the ugliness down if you know what I mean

I'm not asking to be model tier, just to have decent aesthetics or to be considered by most as average or mildly attractive
I'm thinking the nose is the most noticeable one but my jaw is shitty too and getting a more defined jaw could compensate for both the nose and ears

idk really

my haircut a shit too, dammit

No actual faces in a facial aesthetics thread? Cmon guys.

Pic related is me. Thoughts? Comments on hair are appreciated too.

Sorry if this shit rotates. My phone cannot control it.

>>8030241
>>>/soc/
It's not a rate thread.

>>8018189
>tfw drunk dial local jil sander boutique after hours to ask about sale pricing
>tfw they call back the next day
>tfw this is what the effay lifestyle is all about

>>8030259
post face

>>8030246
So instead of posting and getting opinions from people about your facial aesthetics, lets all circle jerk each other about models. Good plan, bud.

>>8030242
You can actually do something about your haircut that won't cost five grand so do it

>>8030241
Nose job.

I need one too

>>8030241
>potato nose

stop clenching your jaw bro, it looks silly. Also, do you house an animal on your head somewhere?

>>8030465
yeah but apart from the haircut?

quick fa what do i do with hair
I have shit hairline but my jaw is strong and my hair is pretty alright i guess

>>8024823
christ my heart is actually hurting from laughing

>>8031292

short sides and back

>>8031292
what the fuck do you think we're going to do with your pic that you need to protect your identity lol

we can hardly tell anything about your age now, and facial features shape your "head shape" and what haircuts you can pullof more than you think

anyway it LOOKS LIKE your eyes are farther down than average on your head so you might want hair that hangs down lower than that. But over all I'd say your jaw+hair combo is pretty stylin

>>8031106
surgery
I think it's been said already you dense faggot

>>8023697
their head relaxes into the right shape quickly though it's normal for babies heads to be wierd shapes because the vagina compresses them

>>8019282
He's got great features but his tomato skin is so fucking ugly.

>>8019282
his skin + his wet hair make him look rly flustered

>>8028208
ur nose is always open and doesnt have joints so no
studies have been done on mouthbreathing and its affects on the tmj

>>8030068
u have to put a lot of thinking into surgery
in the meanwhile take care of ur skin hair etc

>>8035040
>put a lot of thinking
not if you go to a surgeon who's actually good and doesn't fuck around

Which male feature defines attractiveness moreso than other facial features? What is the main characteristic a man can have that makes him at least mildly attractive if we generalize standards of beauty (since it's subjective)?

Is it the strength of your jawline?

Please respond

>>8036512
symmetry

>>8036512
symmetry and bonestructure

>>8036512

symmetry is #1

for attracting females, traditionally masculine features tend to be more immediately attractive - strong browlines, jaws, and a square face

>>8036549
>strong jaw
>square face
What's the difference?
If I understand well, I was right? The jawline is the most important thing?
Are there things women don't give a shit about, alternatively, when it comes to a guy's face/head?
>>8036529
>>8036525
>symmetry
Meaning not being deformed and having a generally well aligned facial structure right?
Even if you're not as symmetric as Knoch, you can still be considered as attractive by a lot of girls, it seems (Gosling's eyes have a downwards slope for example)
As for bonestructure, it's what I said right? Jawline?

>>8036558
gosling is ONLY attractive in movies because he's never looking straight at you

he looks like shit irl

>>8019632
I went to school with him, are you jelly?

>>8036558
bonestructure is much more than jawline

browline, cheekbones, nose, general facial shape

>>8036571
Well I guess most people don't really have to worry about symmetry right?
Or by symmetry do you mean actual perfection? As in, nevus on one side of the face but not the other makes it asymmetric? pls enlighten me
>>8036579
>browline
What's an attractive brow?
>cheekbones
Can't anyone get nice cheeks by simply losing weight and getting teeth removed?
>nose
A strong jawline usually compensates for a bigger nose
Or maybe that's what you meant idk
>general facial shape
As in square, oblong...? Which one is the most attractive?

sorry if I'm asking a lot of questions but I'm trying to figure out the criteria for attractiveness

how much do jaw implants cost?

I'm getting rhinoplasty from Dr. Quereshy in Ohio. Anyone been to him before?

Also, slightly recessed jaw.. I know it's unattractive regardless or gender, but do you think a girl could still be alright looking with a recessed jaw? Plastic surgeons have told me it'll look fine once I get rhinoplasty to even out my face but.. I don't want to look "fine". I want to look better than that, I think.

>>8028336
>You're not supposed to get surgery when you're fourteen though, that's what I find strange
They like to do jaw surgeries when the patient is young now. I believe the recovery is easier? I don't really remember why. They offered the same for me.

>Little kid me "Uh uh! Nooo! Mom tell 'em no!"
>Mom: "We'll just do braces for now, maybe come back and do the surgery."
>Orthodontist: "Uh.. Alright.."
15 years later:
>Orthodontist: "Sorry Anon, we can't do this surgery because of your teeth alignment. Since you had braces, it would be too hard to revert your bite."

Basically, they can't do it. It would be like 5 years of braces now lol.

Le instagram

>>8023678
second

>>8037093
ur black

>>8037093
u look like an elder earl sweatshirt

>>8038898
nah this guy is much more attractive than that ugly nigga

>>8030222
This guy has some ugly af lips

>>8023012
Is that what happened to Casemods?

>>8036993
I've had braces to realign my teeth.
Does it mean I can't get orthognastic surgery anymore?
Also how can I get it to be taken in charge by health care? It costs like 30k here

>>8040198
bump

>>8040605
bumpu agen

>>8040046
Laughing internally

>>8040198
ask your orthodontist

chances are that for a surgery that'd essentially be cosmetic, they could still do it

>>8038924
tx bb

>>8036612
I wouldn't listen to the people who say a strong brow is attractive.
It looks disgusting and primitive

>>8042673
pls b cambodia

>>8031292
WHat happened to your face?

>>8042673
https://pewdiepie.spreadshirt.com/

>>8030222
Nice lips

>>8037093
martin luther king jr.

>>8042673
pls be in panama city

>>8019610
this honestly looks like me but paler

>>8044646
sorry for ur loss

>>8044615
do i rly look like MLK?

www.imgur.com/1JrUdAw

can I get an honest opinion? never been rated on 4chan
(best pic I could get with this shitty webcam)

>>8047386
next time turn on the lights wtf

>>8047394
nah I just tried and it's even more pixelated for some reason

>>8047432
2scaredBdared

>>8023036
wow i never knew mouth breathing affected jaw development

and yeah i have noticed adderall lets me breath through my nose far more

>tfw had overbite at age 8
>mom got me braces and a retainer to fix it before puberty
>jawline was saved and don't look like a mouthbreather
t-thanks mom

>>8048753
i had braces for over 2 years, straightened my teeth but didnt help my shitty jaw at all

>>8028355

:3

>>8048829
I think that's his best fit.

>>8048836

This is my fav.

>>8030222

Funny thing is, a lot of people tell me he's my doppleganger. Anywho, here's a transformation pic, thank fuck my face changed entirely. The previous pic was when I was 16, I'm 21 right now.

>>8050241
did you get your ears tapered back?

>>8050245

Nope, I would never ever get facial surgery, fuck that. Hell I won't even do laser eye surgery because it will leave a micro scar if you get it.

>>8050241
wtf

>>8036612

Nice cheeks usually are genetic due to high cheekbones, if you have a fat face, it doesn't matter how many teeth you remove or how much weight you lose. I knew an anorexic girl who still had a really fat face. Bone structure is what's important though, having a nice jaw doesn't mean you're 10/10 attractive, you have to have the whole package, and in the right amounts and not too exaggerated either.

>>8050278

Yes?

>>8050286
people tell you that you are sean's doppelganger?

>>8050289

Maybe not in that pic, but I've been told it quite a bit of times. I have friends who model as well, and they've met the dude before. It's what got me into the whole modelling gig to begin with. I don't have the same eye color as Sean though, I have Amber eyes while he has Blue. Then again models all look the damn same.

>>8050289

I still think I look a bit different though, but I will admit he's pretty similar looking in this pic. He was younger in it, and seeing as how the dude is like 24 or 25 and I'm 21, there's still time for my look to change anyways.

>>8050289

Maybe not in that pic, but I've been told it quite a bit of times. I have friends who model as well, and they've met the dude before. It's what got me into the whole modelling gig to begin with. I don't have the same eye color as Sean though, I have Amber eyes while he has Blue. But hey, models all look the damn same with the exception of eye colors and only slightly bigger/smaller jaws, etc. I will admit he does look a bit like me in this pic, although I know I look different from him in some ways. I'd rather look different than look like somebody else though.

Welp, here's one last pic since I tend to look different in some pics because of the lighting, you can make your judgement on whether or not you think he's my lookalike or not. I'm done for the night. Also to answer the other guys question, I'm not the type to get plastic surgery or any kind of facial surgery, I wouldn't even get Lasik eye surgery because it leaves a micro scar in your eye for the rest of your life.

>>8048753
>tfw slight overbite improves my face