/fa/ - Fashion

take your broscience back to /fit/ you dumbfucc

>>7910935
lmao serves u right underage bitch

>/fa/ diet

nigga i'm on my own diet

just so happens to make me look gud

>>7910935
>tfw /fa/ trolled me into starving byself so i could become effay
>started losing hair because malnutrition
>now balding at 19

thanks

>>7910935
yeah nah, i have anemia and im 1.80 and growing maybe you have shit tier genes

haha you fucking idiot

>not enjoying great food cuz a bunch of autistic people on the internet tell you to not eat
its like you people cant think for yourself

this thread is hilarious

>>7911026
> 1.80 feet
> tall

Stay manlet.

>>7910935

>be me and 250 lbs obese
>start exercising and eating healthy in the summer. fall in love with cooking and running.
>now 165 lbs., /fit/ and eating fresh food like a king.
>come on /fa/, everyone here is a weakly skinnyfag starving themselves.
>mfw

>>7911057
its funny coz ur fat

>>7911151
you got me man, good one

>>7910935

that's what you get for being an underagedfag

>>7910935
>implying anyone on a "/fa/ diet"
not everyones an impressionable doormat like u bud

>>7911151
I guess he doesn't want to fuck himself.

6'2" 170lb ottermode master race.
You're lying to yourself if you believe otherwise.

>>7911132
no, meters

do u evn civilization?

>>7911146

honestly it's not fair you exist

just fuck off with your bullshit made up story

>taking diet advice from 4chan
>my sides
>u can see my ribs thru my sides

>>7911146
everyone know that /fit/ is full of delusional fat fucks and crazy faggots obsessed with being a big ass beef cake

fuck off

>>7912472

I'm not even big. Approaching ottermode.

>>7912447

Okay, I started losing weight earlier in the spring, but most of the work was done during summer.

Eat right + run every day+ lots of water. It's not that hard to look good without starving yourself. /fa/ is just full of angry lady-boys with eating disorders.

>>7912487
i don't eat much, have problems with drinking coffee and smoking, drink my daily 2lt of water and walk when needed, in one month i lost 2kg without even trying

did i achieved the ultimate diet,

I am 6'4" and just started to diet

I haven't even heard people talk about diets in a long time. I think it's pretty widely accepted now that eating healthy and exercising is way better for you than just eating less. Also you feel better and look better. I don't really enjoy working out, but you can't deny that you get a pretty sweet endorphin rush that lasts a while.

How did i get on /fa/?

I want /fit/ to leave

When you're still growing, does only your caloric intake matter as long as you don't eat fast food bullshit?

I don't really eat a lot of veggies/fruits so I was wondering

>>7912645

I think I read something about how it takes like a month of doing something to form a habit (or maybe it was three). Point is, I ran for a half hour every day during summer. Now I'm at the point where I feel weird if I don't run, so it's actually kind of a relief to do it.

But I feel ya. Exercise is generally boring by itself. I can't even run without music.

Haha, it's not that simple. The sort of calorie restriction that leads to reduced height is not possible in the developed world. I'm talking eating nothing but bread and water for years starting in childhood. Same for sleep.

Height is 100% genetic as far as 1st world goes.

>>7912731
>100% genetic
You're very wrong, please stop saying things that aren't true

Height also depends on diet, sleep, etc

My father's 5'8'', mother's 5'4'', I'm between 5'11'' and 6'0''

>>7912738
Says who, you? I'm not assuming anything, I have a dual degree in biochem and physiology. The sort of sleep and nutrition deprevation required to stunt bone growth by anything more than a centimeter is not possible here. When you are hungry do you eat? When you are tired do you sleep? Done. Unless you are forced to stay awake for days in a dark factory somewhere, or are constantly hungry and all you have to eat is bread or rice and you barely ever see meat or other parts of the 'food pyramid' you are not going to experience stunted growth by environmental factors. There was some research to say that caffeine could wash out calcium, it's also been proven wrong.

I mean hey, you can trust yourself on this or your parents or whatever who have 0 expertise on the matter or you can take my word for it who at least knows how metabolism and development actually works.

>>7912738
Oh, and it's not the case that your parents' phenotype represents all of the genetic information you inherit from them. What you see is only the fraction of genes that were expressed.

>>7912770
Well I'm just saying, how do you explain people with short parents growing tall?

Also, I remember being told by a physician that it worked the other way around, that certain things could help grow taller.

>>7912774
I know I don't only inherit my parents' characteristics - I just find it strange that nobody in my family exceeds 5'9'' except like my great grandfather who was around 6'6'', yet I'm 6'0'' and my growth plates stayed open pretty long iirc

inb4 milkman

>>7912776

see

>>7912774

What type of physician? I've received bogus information from DO's and shit who have horrible education. If you want information about bone growth from someone not anonymous, go to an orthopedic or internal med physician that has a degree that doesn't come from a state school or DO school.

How does HGH injection work, what are the risks and how tall can I expect to get if I get it when I stop growing (around 21 years old)?

>>7912790
You won't. Look up epiphyseal plates, yours have closed already.

>>7912794
I was told that by an orthopedist. I don't remember exactly what he told me apart that growth could be enhanced by diet and physical activity.

>>7912799
If one's growth plates haven't closed, what will HGH injection do?

Also is it true that by doubling the height you were at age 2 you could know how tall you'd be?

>>7912803
Ok, then. Won't argue with that. I'd love to argue with him directly.

>>7912816
What, do you think it's not true?
He told me the "add father's + mother's height + 5in and divide by two" thing was bullshit for the newer generations since diet has a significant (positive) influence on growth nowadays and parents can't be used as reliable predictors anymore.

I don't know I'm not educated on the subject, but I just find it strange that growth can't be influenced by other factors unless you live in extremely precarious conditions.

>>7912799
No, and HGH I don't know. HGH is part of a special group of hormones that has a lot of feedback loops all over the place and so I wouldn't be surprised if your jaw grows but your legs don't. I could spend an hour reading the current literature but I have other things to do.

>>7912826
goes to >>7912810


>>7912819
A lot of the research that shows

>>7912830
Not the guy you answered to, but when do male's growth plates close and one stops growing? Approximately, I just want an estimate.

And during that interval, past the growth peak during puberty (which happens around 14 years old if I'm not mistaken), at which rate do most people grow? Like one inch per year or so? Or is it not predictable?

Is there any kind of doctor I can see to get my height predicted

>>7912830
...that shows positive effect on growth by diet and sleep is comparing deprived African countries and North Korea to the USA. Of course they will find correlation. But in terms of what is actually necessary for bone growth in terms of how much of each amino acid, how many calories, vitamins, etc. they are all present in more than sufficient quantities in at least one meal from Burger King a day. In fact, supplemental vitamins do absolutely nothing, because the base quantity actually used by the body is so small a fucking carrot would have it. So, bring that up to your orthopedics guy, ask him to pull up the papers he's read and check what the control group is in the research that shows diet and sleep effects on height.

>>7912487
>165
>approaching ottermode

Unless you are at LEAST 6'5, you are not anywhere close to ottermode at 165lbs.

Keep dieting fatass

>>7912840
I can't give you numbers. You want to know if your plates are sealed find a doctor that will give you an xray, you can see if your plates are still open. Although they are not all sealed at the same time exactly from what I remember.

>>7912853
Yeah I got told growth plates were still open. But that doesn't mean shit, it could mean I'll grow two centimeters more just like I could grow ten, right?

>>7912864
Yes.

>>7912867
Eh, shit.
Since you said height was essentially defined by genetics, can I hope to ever reach 180cm if my father's like 171 and my mother's shorter than him? There must be a range starting from which it becomes unlikely, right

>tfw can't afford leg lengthening surgery

>>7912875
You can imagine it like a bell curve, it will probably be skewed towards your father's height. The point is it's possible you grow to 6'5" it's just really really really unlikely.

I'm going to assume I'm a fair bit older than you, so if you want my advice, stop worrying about it. Your height will make no difference in the grand scheme of things. Get laid, find something to be passionate about. Everyone's so damned neurotic about their height on this site.

>>7912886
>no difference
It will in terms of attractiveness... I can't imagine ever being considered as attractive if I'm not at least 177 or something

Not asking to be huge, just to have a decent height

>>7912891
Hearing a guy talk about wanting to be attractive. Man, it was only yesterday it seems metrosexual became a thing. But now the new generation is just a bunch of little girls with testicles.

>>7912900
What's wrong with wanting to be attractive?
Since I have insanely high standards, I'd better be able to justify them

When do you stop growing taller?
And when did you stop growing?
I'm 18 and 5'8(and I live in Norway ffs)

>>7913721
>18
Give up hope cause you're gonna live and die a manlet

>>7912675
Dude if you're a tall male and your between the ages of 16 and 24, even if you're only lightly active, you should please just not give a shit about what you eat. I used to eat absolute crap 24/7 and everyone always told me I was so skinny. Then I fucked myself and started counting calories and started eating like a bird and overexercising because of family issues and stuff and now I'm trying to build everything back up again. I realize now WHY my body naturally gravitated towards eating shitty foods and why I snacked constantly - it's because my caloric needs are crazy high and I need to eat kinda like a pig just to maintain a lower healthy weight with an ottermode build.

>>7913798
*you're

sorry for english

but when were u when u stopped growing??

>>7913798
Everyone is different
I eat like shit I get fat

>>7913808
16 for me
Went to the doctors at 18 and told me
:(
>everyone told me I was going to grow until 21
You never know until you go to the doctors

>>7913813
Well everyone's definition of "eating like shit" is different I guess. I mean, if I compared my former "crap" diet to the average American diet, you could say I ate healthily. But that's because some people LOAD their bread with butter and DRENCH salads in ranch and add in all sorts of additional calories from things that don't really add much to the food. I'm picky and I've always hated ranch/sour cream/too much cheese, etc. When I ate like "crap", I'd have fast food/chinese takeout probably twice a week, and whenever I went out with family, most of the time I'd get a greasy burger or something unhealthy, washed down with a sugar-syrupy drink like a flavored tea (I'd normally opt for just regular tea, though) occasionally getting dessert. I kept things like crackers, cookies, chips, pork rinds and beef jerky around the house as snacks, but I snacked on fruits and vegetables, too.

I also had 1½ hour swim practice 3-5 times a week and did a little outside cardio/calisthenics.

Compare this to some people who never work out, eat at least one fast food meal a day, desserts every day, only get vegetables from the fixins on their burgers and only get fruit from the strawberries in their milkshakes, then yeah, it wasn't so bad.

>tfw skinny but wide hips make me look ridiculous ;_;
I wish I liked eating more.

>>7912770
so, if i eat when i need it and sleep when i need it i will grow no matter if i exercise or not?

>>7912875
it's like 50 000 euro
it wouldn't be that unnaffordable if you could get loan for it
what concerns me more is if it'd still cause something like back problems or unability to run or do weightlifting over time

>>7913931
>skinny
>wide hips
>big chest
>needlestick arms
toplel

>>7912875
my fathers are shorter than 1.70 and im 1.80 and it seems that I'm still growing

its all about genes

>starve self hoping my shoulders would shrink and look better in clothes
>they didn't shrink, now they just look like a wide clothes hanger

>>7910987
Malnutrition hairloss grows back

>>7914459
How are you supposed to get a loan for surgery?
"Hey I want 50k"
>What for? Do you have a project?
"No I want to fix my face/height/whatever"

>>7918730
You lie, I assume

>>7918781
They're not stupid, they'll find out what you spent the money on

>>7918782
Oh, then if you have a car or something I guess you'd just use it as collateral.
They'll accept the loan if it's safe

>>7917490
>not eating will make my bones smaller