/fa/ - Fashion

dem shits look like an ocean

id go samurai imo

i can't afford anything above acne and nf tho.

samurai is probably the end-game of denim, but if you want something that doesn't break your wallet, 3 sixteen is a lot better than NF

>>7262920
RT has the best cuts imo.

Samurai or pbj

>>7262944
yeah i think 3sixteen is a good step up, im wearing some shadow selvedge right now, im much happier with them than i was with N&F

if you're really into the fabric and having something that fades in an interesting way, acnes are not what you want. they are all about cuts.

samurai or iron hearts are cool. also check out how pbjs fade. they are very slubby generally, and create cool fades if you're into thtat.

>>7262981

What are there cuts like? Compared maybe to a Levi 511, 513, or N&F Skinny Guy, Weird Guy?

Who makes a good pair of black raws in a skinny fit?

>>7262920
Check out rogue territory

>>7263027

Acne Ace Cash

>>7262920
Acne would be a slight step up. Probably could do better with Japanese stuff though- Pure Blue, Tellason, Skull Jeans, Kicking Mule, Flat Head, etc.

>>7263027
>>7263035

I'd also prefer some quality denim that isn't made in Albania.

How are Lucky Brand Jeans?

>>7263089
rawrdenim.com

>>7263090

eh I've had 2 pairs for about 2 years now... i mean they're OK but I had em tailored... definately way cheaper than any of the brands listed in this thread. of course people on here will tell you to stop buying mall tier pleb shit... if you only wana spend like 60-80$ then Luckys might work for you

heh i had the tags removed to so no one would know the brand

>>7263216
are lucky raw?

ive been in the store but not for jeans

what other brands (besides apc) sell jeans without a leather patch on the back?

>>7263216
aren't all their jeans 100 plus?

It really depends on how you wear them/lifestyle etc.
You can get solid fades on just about any pair of modern jeans with time and wear.
Most of the brands using unique denims are Japanese.
I'm guessing you don't wear your jeans too hard, RT and 3Sixteen are both great American brands that use midweight denim that I've seen to fade nicely.
I've been a Left Field fan for years so I recommend them, Christian sources White Oak Cone, and some interesting denims from Kuroki and other Japanese mills occasionally.

Between Blue Owl, BiG, and SE there is a wide range of quality jeans to choose from.

>>7263005
This

>>7263035
those aren't selvedge nor are they raw. projectile loom garbage. they're NOT a step up from naked and famous.

they're entry level denim for people who want skinny cuts IE perfect for /fa/

naked and famous is entry level self-edge raw denim

>>7263090
not selvedge, not raw

>>7263232
no, all washed disgusting yellow tinge
cheap denim like acne

>>7263437
no

if you want to wear something cheap like lucky

evisu are old school raw denim
things to look for:

made in japan so it's not going to be gaudy
antyhing evisu, made in japan is going to be self edge, with a usally white weft

evis, with a stamp on the leather are also desirable as long as self edge


stop wearing acne skinnys and baggy parkas

My first pair of raws arrived today, fit pretty nicely. do you guys actually wear a new pair everyday for months without washing?

if you're wondering they're Albam slim leg, 13oz japanese, indigo rope dyed, selvedge denim. £115.

opinions on a.p.c petit standards? good for first pair of raws?

How bout 7 for all mankind? Got some interesting prints/textures up now (new trend? At least it's something I camn appreciate.)

>>7263005

I have slim tapered double black, I've owned unbranded 201 and levis 510, 511

higher rise, thighs in between 511 and 510 depending on how you size, calves the same as 201 or 511 ish, bigger than 510s

I'm very happy with em, would highly recommend especially if you like the higher rise. however I'm going to have to get the calves tapered more (same deal with 201 and 511 for me, if those work ok then you'll be fine)

My skinny guys get knee bags. How do I combat this with future purchases? Should I try APC, or super skinny guy?

>>7265409
Goose stepping

>>7265484
wut

>>7265546
He's trying to say you that knee bag can't be avoided.
You can buy a pair of jeans each week...

>>7265583
kneebag is excess fabric at the knee

the knee fade is desiarable

i know you're te guy who hates on denim that isn't skin tight so you're not into fades

but that doesne't mean that everyone on superfuture wants to wear the same low end hudson elastaine/polyester blend you champion

So are skinny guys just a bad cut? Or did I not size down enough? Because they dont fit tight enough to hold stacks and just kinda bunch up I'm the bottom. Should I try a more tapered fit?

>>7265663
it's like 13.5oz denim bro

if you want it not to fall

then get something that isn't made of such quality denim,

meaning look for something usuing china denim, like APC or even acne

selvedge raw denim is probably not for you if you're having all this trouble with stacks and fading

you want a skin tight, light weight denim pant, with strech, no shrinking, no fading

try something at the mall bro elastaine, polyester womens pants might work too

or even jeggings

>>7265674
It isnt really about the falling per say. It is just that the big leg opening is a little off I think when paired with the bunching.

>>7265674

sieg how do you have the audacity to keep posting

do you have some kind of self destruction fetish that's satisfied when you get shit on on the internet?

>>7265633
sorry I'm maybe autist but I don't understand you.

>>7265683
no it's not

you clearly said

"stacks at the bottom"

as an undesiarable effect.

umm dude, naked and famous uses japanese denim from nisshinbo mills right?

what the fuck do you expect? it has more denim in it than 2 pairs of levis due to the thick ass weave and the rope dye method

like i said
go buy a pair of skinnys from a low end retailer, acne, pac sun, abercrombie, forever 21 etc

what you want to avoid is cotton/denim

get polyester with elastaine in it

then hem it short like you want

it's sanf. for ya so no shrinkage. and the artifical indigo won't bleed for ya

>>7265685
you know how people say they don't give a shit then they leave and delete everything on the internet?

i truly truly don't give a flying fuck
i don't base my personality on what others think of me, particularly because i don't deal with a lot of people and i don't plan to anytime soon

How do these fit?

N&F Super Skinny

>tfw have awesome fades on muh 10 years old jeans
>tfw it's shrink af can't wear them without having difficulty bending and have no room for pockets
Any ways to fix the waist?

>>7265727
>i truly truly don't give a flying fuck
>i don't base my personality on what others think of me


autism

>>7265727
Sieg is a woman.
He is a "man" who has given up on life, and is a waste.

>>7265733
pretty good

W2C fits like apc PS but nice quality?

Are the super skinny guys from NF better cut than levis 510s?

>>7265733
Looks good bruv

>tfw no mall stores that sell raws
>tfw cant try jeans on first

Ill just leave this pic here

should answer itself

>>7267033
how 2 get stackz on knees

>>7267033
>>7267039
What brand? w2c? Comes in black?

Planning on getting my first pair of N&F's soon

would be my first pair of raws also

what should i get? also i am 5'8 so i am going to get them tailored and wondered how much room i should leave for stacks

>>7267039
>>7267044
prb's

>>7267004
>raw denim
>mall

>>7267033
how did this trend of folded down boots start? i wish i could find the first guy that took normally functioning boots to fold them and punch him, right in his dick sucking mouth.

>>7267120
what's the matter with it?
you've got tall boots and ankle boots in the same boot.

>>7267114

you basically repeated what i said. why?

>>7267033
Those are predistressed. Not raw.
It's easy to see and makes you look like a giant tryhard faggot.

>>7267163

Oh fuck I'm dying

>>7267163
So that they could make fun of you with the funny pic and the 4chan meme arrows.

selvedge isn't fa anymore ?

>>7267004

GAP sells selvedge

I think H&M has sold selvedge

>>7267233

>implying selvedge equals quality

>>7267004
nordstrom, neiman marcus, and bloomingdales should carry some mainstream stuff like n&f, apc, and nudies.

figured this'd be a good place to ask- what makes samurais so much better than other brands?

Everyone always talks about them as the go to for highest end raw jawnz

>>7267238
too trendy.

>>7267252

Fabric sourced from high-quality Japanese mills
High quality workmanship
Brand mystique
Many limited productions

To be honest, when you're in the high-end denim market, it's all just a matter of preferences. I personally like the way Pure Blue Japan jeans fade more than I like samurais, so yeah. Go on rawrdenim and find out what brand appeals to you most.

>>7267250
This is true, but if I had to guess quality by the presence of selvedge alone it would be fairly accurate.

>>7267255
Jesus Christo

>>7267273

Before Evisu sort of revived the whole denim-fetish as a mainstream phenomenon, selvedge denim would've been a pretty good indicator for the quality. This isn't true anymore though.

A pretty general misconception is that selvedge denim can only be woven on vintage shuttle-looms, but that's just a myth. The chingy chongy chinamen are producing buttloads of selvedge denim these days, and the quality is horrible.
If you want to know anything about the quality of the denim, find out where the denim is sourced from. For starters, Cone Mills in US, and in Japan there's buttloads. A select few of the good ones: Okayama, Nisshinbo, Kaihara, Japan Blue Mills and Kuroki. But there's lots of good mills in JP.

Captcha: "and Nisamoi" maybe there's a mill named nisamoi?

>>7267252
samurai mind.

>>7267238
>>7267255

to an extent, this is sorta true

cheap selvedge is flooding the market atm

real selvedge (PBJ, Samurai) has always been underground but popular amongst denim-heads, but they aren't /fa/ (pic related)

thus /fa/ is super into Acne atm - you can't get the skinny cuts that /fa/ is into with hardcore raw denim

>>7267301
Fair enough.
I'll have to keep this in mind when I buy my next pair.
Anyone have experience with the Unbranded 21oz stuff?

>>7267324
The PBJ x BiG cuts are pretty skinny

>>7267335

sorta meant that as a blanket statement, but yeah

>>7264450
>evisu
>not going to be gaudy
wut? i looked these up and even the plainer ones have a tacky m across the ass.

>>7267327

Unbranded 21 series should be pretty fucking great. Awesome fades within a month or two, sort of makes the durability questionable though. Can't say I've heard of anyone having major blowouts with them despite taht.

>>7267033
>diesel belt

>>7264450
Dammit sieg did Acne kill your cat
you hate that particular brand so much

>>7267368

Not everything they make is with the daicock. They just make boatloads of money selling the easily recognizable daicock jeans to plebs trying to be mainstream. Kinda sad really, their denim is high quality.

>>7264450

>Implying ordinary living people are able to acquire Evis jeans.
Evis is like the holy grail for denimheads. Far better quality than modern Evisu, and Evisu isn't even bad.

>>7267390
acne kill his face...

>>7267372
I'm wearing a pair of the UB101s right now, the stitching was perhaps a little sloppy but otherwise they are better than my N&F in every way.

>>7266273
Anyone?

>>7266267
Bump. Is NF super skinny ThR next step? I am sure there is nicer quality. I'm too skinny for a lot of things. :c

>>7267493
acne scarring actually :(

1/10 genes
1/10 jeans
fml

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>>7267406
i just sold a pair $65 shipped

>>7267576

Worn or in mint condition? Last time I saw a pair in mint condition go, it was well above the $200 line. Denim fanatics are suckers for deadstock denim..

how is nudie?

>>7267675

Entry-level. Good fits, but be prepared to spend some bucks when the crotch blows out, which it does.
That being said, the money spent Nudie could've been better spent elsewhere.

>>7267687
Well which pair of black jeans should i go for. I have a local boutique near me that i go to. I bought my N+F there (my first pair of raw jeans) Now i need a black pair. Im like a 36' 37' inseam

>>7267590
worn

>>7267725

Rogue Territory Stealth?

http://www.rogueterritory.com/product-category/denim/

Perhaps 3sixteen shadow selvedge? A little bit more pricy, not sure if they're worth the extra bucks.

I really like Rogue Territory though. Read up on their story as a company, it's quite fascinating.

>>7267747
how is the fit. Im looking for something similar to N+F skinny keyboard

>>7267787
Oopps i mean skinny guy

>>7267787

The SK fits quite skinny. Pic related.

>>7267797
which black jeans from rogue territory would you recommend

>>7267787
Not the guy that posted that but I have a pair too. They are really great, just make sure to the right size. Nicely tapered by the ankle/calf, no billowy excess fabric like most "skinnies". It's actually such a perfect fit that I had trouble getting my heel through the leg opening for the first week or so. Def. uncomfortable at first but once they break in and conform to your body they feel so right. Also hold stacks/creases well. Smell like shit for at least a month tho, sulfur took a long time to air out.

>>7267045
bump

>>7267830

Depends on the fit you want.

SK = Skinnyfit, pic above related
Stanton = Slim fit
Classic = straight fit

Then they have the stealth models and the black models. The only difference appears to be that stealth is 15oz and black is 13oz.

Still looking for something with a bit more taper than skinny guys. Pls respond.

>>7267865
does skinnyfit = skinny guy N + F?
or does skinnyfit = super skinny guy N +F ?

i just want to get a comparison

>>7267045

>>7267045

Get whatever feels most comfortable. N&F denim should come in a 36" inseam, so given your stature, hemming is absolutely ncesessary. Just have them hemmed so that there's decent stacks, without making the jeans look unfitting.

>>7267885
Given the nature of the fabric, I would go out on a limb and say that it's more like the skinny guy. The super skinny appears to be crafted from fabrics with 2% elastane, making incredibly skinny fits possible. RT SK is 100% cotton though, like most skinny guy jeans.

>>7267908
thanks a bunch man im going to order a pair of the SK jeans. I wish i could see the black up clothes but ill just take a good guess

>>7267908
ok cool

what N&F would you suggest for a first pair?

>>7267950

Get in touch with customer support before you order. Send them your precise measurements and ask them which size you should get.

The one rule with premium denim: the sizes will always be weird.

>>7267255

>>7267576
damn that was the first funny thing you ever said and it was a fucking pun

>>7267978

Left hand twill selvedge is always a pretty good start, it's a pretty standard denim. It produces some pretty awesome fades if treated right though, check this out:

http://www.rawrdenim.com/2013/07/fade-friday-naked-famous-left-hand-twill-15-months-2-washes-2/

>>7267974
well i was just gonna get the same waist as my N+ F

>>7267080
what does prb stand for?

>>7268018
They have the exact measurements right next to the picture. Just measure your waist and buy the size with the closest waist measurement. I wouldn't worry about sizing down or anything either, I bought my stealth sk's pretty tts and although they do stretch a bit to conform to your body, its nothing drastic. I've had em about 6 months with no washes and don't need a belt or anything.

>>7268084
do you know the difference between the classic, dark, and stealth? they all look the same even the descriptions.

>>7268098
I know that stealth sk has white selvedge and is 15 oz. denim whereas the black sk isn't selvedge and is 13.5 oz denim.

>>7268141
Also, the stealth denim is sourced from a japanese mill and I think the normal black sk's denim is sourced from a mill in the US somewhere.

>>7268141
which is better quality wise and looks?

>>7268170
I went with stealth cuz I figured its better quality (nihon menpu mill) and heavier fabric which tends to give more distinct stacks and creases.

Also white on black selvedge is kinda cool although I never cuff them anyway.

>>7268192
how did you size? im a 32 in N + F should i go with that or 33?

>>7268225
Not sure, never had N&F before. I wear a 30 in 511's though and got sz. 28 sk. But foreal man, just take a minute and measure your actual waist size in inches and just match it up to the size measurements they have posted online. thats gonna get you the best, most accurate fit.

>>7268258
alright ill stop being lazy thanks, Im going to go with the stealth sk based on your suggestion.

Do you know anything about the Dark?

>>7268225
size down 1 inch from levis

>>7264206
w2c sikk fadez on black denim like that

>>7268273
Nah I don't think they had that option when I bought mine, only true black denim they had was stealth and the 13.5 oz. black I mentioned earlier. Dark makes me think they might just be a dark indigo tho, unless its a collection like stealths are.

You'll def. be impressed man, the quality and fit is amazing.

>>7268341
Just look for ones with gray/white/undyed weft. If the warp and weft are both dyed they won't fade.

>>7268421
thanks anon. .