/fa/ - Fashion

So far, I know to look for:
Acronym
Isaora
Aether

What else is out there?

>>7177531
arcteryx veilance
outlier

>tfw same old tech folder pics

bump

http://dressed-down.com/blog/2013/5/13/intro-to-techwear-part-1-the-bas

obligatory beginners techwear post

>>7177531
stone island shadow project
maybe nanamica and ten c

think urban exploring
waterproof, functional, easy to clean and move in
i get inspiration from graffiti painters' style

have an autechre song to go with the thread
someone described it as "electric rain while speeding from the police"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KrDF0VTb8o

>>7177583
The downside is, I'm not really into the urban style - like sweats and drop crotch, that kind of shit.

However, everything in my closet is slim-fitting, so it does somewhat pair well.

I wish I could dress like that, but I'd never be able to pull it off, and it would totally clash with my work attire.

>>7177595
imo neither sweats nor drop crotch have any tech significance
you can wear "casual" tech aswell, check outliers pants for a good example
it's still functional clothing, you don't have to go techninja or anything

>>7177605
Yeah, functional shit is just fucking beautiful.

I also have a really stupid vision of having a closet full of techwear in the event of one day shit hits the fan.

Might as well look good too.

>>7177605
Also, good shit, man. Outlier has some nice clothes. Thanks for the suggestion.

>>7177612
heh yeah the prepared-for-society's-downfall look is nice too
start out with a jacket perhaps, don't know if you're looking for soft- or hardshell. you can check the blog stuff above for definitions
add in pants, cargos, tees, shoes as you go i don't know if you wanna spend a lot one time
but a jacket is a good starting point and arguably the most important part of a techfit

i'm out tho gotta make some food
hope someone else gets in here and dumps tech folder

>>7177624
I'm starting with a winter jacket - dead set on this one. Tons of primaloft ONE, schoeller exterior, microfiber interior, good pockets, etc.

It's not waterproof, though, so I'm looking for a waterproof hardshell to go over it.

Am I on the right path to thinking more technical?

Has someone got any examples of some summery techwear? Shells are great and all but what about when it starts to get hot?

Can stocky manlets pull off tech-y looks? I'm all legs btw

>>7177637
From what I've learned, merino balances out a ton between hot and cold. Locks in the heat when you're cold and breathes well when it's hot.

Wouldn't really see a need for a shell in the heat, unless it's raining, though?

>>7177572
w2c norse projects cap

>>7177647
Acronym.

>>7177637
anyone know where this jacket is from?

>>7177640
My bad, phrased it pretty badly. What I meant was has anyone got inspo for techware which doesn't feature shells/waterproofs etc? Thanks for the suggestion anyway though

w2c cheaper tech-wear

also are roshe runs tech or are flyknits the only cheap tech shoes

Tech brand list i stole from reddit:

Isaora

outlier

moncler

Canada goose

duvetica

tenC

nau

underarmour

arcteryx

nsw

patagonia

thenorthface

nanamica

stone island

stone island shadow

exofficio

acronym

veilance

rei

mastrum

cp company

Rapha

disaeran

tilak

wm

icebreaker

aether

diemme

aitor throup

brands that aren't technical but deserve mention: undercover, visvim, wm, wtaps/nbhd

this is actually an alright discussion; http://np.reddit.com/r/malefashion/comments/18erz9/technical_clothing_lets_talking_about_technical/

>>7177650
thanks

>>7177649
Have you tried looking at maybe shit that free runners or parkours wear? Probably a good start.

>>7177655
>cheap
>techwear
I don't think this exists buddy. Time to break open the piggy bank.

>>7177661
Didn't think about that, Kids I see around here doing it just wear joggers/t-shirts so didn't spring to mind. I guess use stuff like Mirrors Edge as inspo without getting too Cosplayish?

>>7177655
Depends what you consider cheap but prices for shells etc are usually going to be starting at £200

>>7177689
Nah, bro. Just look up some real videos and shit.

>>7177655
nike low trainerendor are nice and not costly
techwear is inherently expensive though. maybe north face is worth checking out

>>7177639
bump

>>7177689
rick owens black tank
rick owens drkshdw pinnrolled whitecargopants
nike flyknit or those silent by damir doma flats

would wear

>>7177706
Sure - big legs look just fine in shit like drop crotch.

>>7177706
no problem wearing tech stuff if you're short
just think of your proportions as you usually do (or should do) when dressing yourself

>>7177711
nah son, they're split toe shoes

>>7177627
what jacket is this dude wearing? looks sick

>>7177873
air rifts are sick

recently copped this to layer over my tad ranger hoodie. side vents go whole way up and down abdomen so i can access pockets on the hoodie, and the silhouette is actually pretty cool cus i sized up. storm hood comes up to barely touching my nose, and the black construction is pretty spartan. i like how it works with more stated pants, like some tiger stripes or something.

>>7177873
those would work tho

is marpat played out?
would remove neck strap and maybe OD webbing

>>7177923
shit.

>>7177908
I like it, sounds like a cool fit but it sort of takes the 'tech' part out of it, pretty much all aesthetic>function. But I guess that works in the 'lighter' fits.

Are there any proper techwear shoes with a lot of function? Or is it mainly to do with a tech look when it comes to shoes?

>>7177904
Is that a helium II? Have you taken it out in the rain yet? How does it fit?

>>7177952
no its the foray, helium has no pit zips and i dont think it's goretex. this is goretex paclight, and goddamn is this thing bombproof. plus OR has one of the best warranty services of any outdoor gear manufacturers.

>>7177962
$200 is a good price for GoreTex and is only $50 more than the helium.

Definitely following this one now. I'm looking for a waterproof shell to go over an insulated jacket for winter, was thinking helium, but this looks better.

>>7177962
Does it fit pretty well? Not too baggy?

>>7177980
like i said, i sized up so its kinda baggy but i wanted room for insulation as i intend to use it as
>>7177978
does, but if you went true to size itd probably be considered a relaxed fit. for something more form fitting, look into the helium, or some of marmot's stuff.

and fuck yeah, $200 is not bad at all for goretex, whats even better is i got it for $160 off amazon. go cop that shit, right now.

>>7177993
Relaxed fit is probably decent - a rain jacket doesn't need to be form fitting.

>>7177572
Last year when the smog levels in Beijing where at an all-time high I read a column that mentioned smog masks were becoming a fashion item amongs the youth there.
I never found out anything more about that sadly, but I have to admit I'm jealous because of the possible integration of breathmasks in day-to-day wear.
Some outdoor companies offer facemasks (pic related) which I'm going to try this winter.

>>7178042
i really like the facemask look. carhartt does these hats with integrated masks, can be worn down or tucked into hat.

i want a black, techy looking boot. should i just go for some military pattern or do i have other options?

I wish I could just find a good minimal shell with gore-tex, taped seams and everything with the logos toned down or gone. I just can't spend so much on ACR, Veilance, Isaora or Aether like I want right now.

Also for anyone else interested, there's an Acronym piece on ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Acronym-SS-J10-stone-island-shadow-project-errolson-hugh-zip-up-size-S-/161139687080?pt=US_CSA_MC_Outerwear&hash=item2584ac7ea8

I really want it but I know the bids are gonna shoot up within the next few days...

>>7178199
mountaineering boots look techy and good
diemme makes nice ones
white soles are cool imo
shoes are grey areas with techwear

>>7178212
... how does this not fit your criteria:
>>7177904
the little OR too much for you?

what is techwear?

>>7178236
read >>7177572

>>7178219
thanks for the tips.

>>7177656
i've been searching for a tech inspired, warm and well made bomber jacket for cold winters

Apparently Canada goose is techwear? would it be my best bet?

>>7178276
winter bomber jacket?
i hate to be a cliche but rick owens usually have a padded bomber in his F/W collections.
i can't say if canada goose makes bomber jackets, they're mostly famous for the ugly parkas.

>>7178284
Rick is too expensive for me.

Here's the CG bomber I'm talking about.

>>7178284
>>7178293

>>7178284
>>7178293
here's a view of the jacket I'm looking at.

>>7178293
understandable.

well it's probably warm. don't really feel like a hood has its place on a bomber but w/e.
heres a fall bomber from outlier to check out in any case http://shop.outlier.cc/shop/retail/soft-core-bomber.html
it's maybe a bit on the thin side

>>7178228
Almost lol. Also looking to see if there are any others I don't know about.

>>7178307
Yes, it's definitely very warm.
>don't really feel like a hood has its place
I guess, but again, I need warmth and still want a "bomber-like" shape.

I think the CG's pretty minimal (except for that logo, but w/e) and I'm not very familiar with most techwear stuff yet but I'd like to construct a wardrobe inspired by it. That jacket seems to fit just right in the aesthetic I'm looking for.

I was just searching for opinions about the quality so I could know if it was a good purchase to make and if I had any real alternatives.

That outlier bomber is really nice, I can't justify spending 600 dollars on a thin jacket for now though, I need warm stuff. But thanks, I'll cop it when I can.

>>7178293
>>7178302
>>7178306
I was looking at CG, but if you get it wet, it's going to be useless.

>>7178379
What? Why?

It doesn't do anything to the jacket, you're just going to get wet but it won't damage anything.

>>7177583

>>7178413

is acronym that good

>>7178486
how do you mean?
like if it's actually worth the money?

>>7178496
yeah

>>7178498
acronym has all that shit that you expect from techwear, a lot of extra functions and is made of good materials
but you also pay for the aesthetic, as with all designer clothing.

>>7178387
Why? Because down becomes completely ineffective as an insulator when it gets wet.

>>7178486
It's up to you if it's worth the price tag, can't really make that call for you. The reason it is so expensive because it has the stuff you want from techwear with lots of cool features and materials but with a unique ninja-esque aesthetic. You just have to ask yourself do you like it enough to fork out the money.

Why is techwear the most expensive style?

Can it be "combined" with more casual garments or used as an inspiration? Eg. can I blend normal casual hoodies, jeans, etc with techwear inspo?

I like techwear in theory, but it's too unconventional for me to wear it all the time.

>>7178530
Also, their order quantities are relatively small, so that drives up the retail price as well.

>>7178541
all styles are expensive when you want the good things
some styles look worse than others with the cheap things

>>7178541
it's a niche market but i think that the price is mostly justified

and i think techwear is very flexible and easy to mix up with "normal" clothes

>>7178541
Small supply, small demand, expensive fabrics, large amount of research and development needed to be done before product is finished.

All things that lead to a high price.

>>7178541
You can do whatever you want, man!
There are some pieces that look more conventional but offer the functionality of techwear.
For example, this previous season Reigning Champ softshell was waterproof and served well as a nice outer layer, but it's not inherently ninja-esque.

Or you could just buy a light outer layer from a brand like Isaora or Aether (if you're on a budget and can't go for SISP or ACR or something) and layer normal clothes under that.
It's really flexible.

>>7178541
Check out Outlier's stuff - they have a lot of "normal" casual clothes that are made of techie fabrics. Isaora has a lot of nice merino stuff that looks pretty normal.

I'm on the same page as you - I like techwear, but I only really like the outerwear and accessories. I'd never be able to pull off on of those GN or urban looks.

>>7178541
Well pretty much all this:
>>7178545
>>7178550
>>7178556
>>7178560

I'll just add it's probably worth investing money into a good shell. It's versatile and will go with the casual clothing, is basically the 'staple' of the techwear wardrobe and arguably has the biggest benefits of techie materials/features

>>7178517
Yeah but it doesn't damage it.

As long as it doesn't damage the jacket, it's not that important.

>>7177656
>Eprom

mah nigga

>>7177528
fuckkkkkkkkkkkkk i really want to buy that lol

What would /fa/ suggest in regards to UL techwear?

Dumping knowledge, this thread needs it, linking to Reddit? Seriously?

And this one is too big for 4chan, even just my posts alone but it's actually even better to view it like this because the replies are what makes it so good. Best techwear discussion ever to take place on /fa/:

http://fuuka.warosu.org/fa/thread/S6477211

>>7179202
>>7179205
>>7179217
Where the fuck have you been this whole thread, then?

>>7179070
those jackets are nice, i have a quam with the lack of pit zips. marmot, black diamond, arcteryx, golite, all have good lucking UL stuff.

>>7179235
holy shit i remember that thread. i dwelled on that for like 3 days afterwards.

>>7179235

People forging new paths and playing with ideas. Let's get back to that.

>>7177624
Is that the Visvim E-Cat? I really fucking want one. So bad

>>7179235
Anorak what's your opinion, if any, on that Canada Goose jacket posted earlier and on the brand in general? Regardless of its perception as a status symbol

>>7179588
fuck. so hot

>>7179602
techwear cuties

>>7179617
ugh I'm dying

>>7179625
>when she snuggles with you, you know its not because she is cold

>>7177689
That's actually what pretty much everyone does it in. We are not some cool dudes that care about how we look when doing it. At least, not how our clothes look, I always wear a white tee, jogging pants, and some under-armor shoes then go out and have fun.

>>7179202
>cop something from isaora
>read thing shitting on isaora
ugh

>>7179638
lel'd

>>7179571

Canada Goose makes the warmest jackets on the planet for walking / standing around. If that's what you're going to be mainly doing in the winter then they are the best. You don't need to wear a ton of layers with them because they are so warm, often you can even get away with just a t-shirt underneath. When you go inside you take off your jacket and you're set. They're really brilliant and also in this situation I don't care that they are considered a status symbol because they are actually cool. Same story with Nike Flyknits they're something that I wear because I really genuinely think they are cool looking and love the tactile feel of them and the technology behind them. As a textiles maniac they're the coolest shoe to come out in ages. So to me I don't care that some people wear Can Goose / Flyknits for the status, I wear them for the same reason I wear anything, because I like it and think it's cool.

However I own an Acronym hard shell as well because you can't be active in a Canada Goose parka, you will overheat in it if you raise your body temperature too much from exerting yourself. Also Can Goose jackets can wet out if the weather is really shitty like with heavy rain-like snow. Once a down jacket gets wet it's screwed and if you're just wearing a t-shirt underneath so are you. That's where a shell with multiple quick drying layers underneath is going to be better.

Parka for light walking and standing around outside or moving short distances between heated buildings.

Hard Shell + Layers for skiing, hiking, being outside for long periods of time, problematic weather and if it's not cold enough for the parka.

I use both pretty evenly but if you can only budget for one or the other think about what you're more likely to be doing.

>>7179751
They still make a good product they just dont fit anoraks spirit of artistic design morality bullshit

>>7179727

I just don't think they're very innovative or doing anything interesting, I feel they've hopped on a trend that is typically quite expensive and are capitalizing by offering a cheaper alternative. If that's all you can afford don't feel shitty about your purchase or anything. Look at it this way it's a good entry point and if down the line you still really dig this type of stuff and have a bit more cash consider moving up a price point.

You also certainly could have done much worse, it's not like you bought ioffer geo baskets or something. It's not fake techwear it's just somewhat uninspired. It's still probably decently better than stuff like North Face or Patagonia if it's any consolation.

>>7179880
what's wrong with patagonia? their fleeces are just classic

Posting some Klattermusen because their stuff looks amazing.

>>7180015

>>7180023

>>7180028

>>7180038

>>7178530
are thee an like in depth ideos about all the features of an acronym jacket?

ike the promo ones but more

i need to masturbate

>>7180081
are there in depth videos about all the features of an acronym jacket?

like the promo videos but more

i need to masturbate

*sorry, was rushed in last post lol

I really love the entire idea behind techwear along with the the over all style of it. So in time for the impending winter up north, what would be some good techwear boots to cop for around $100? Any good tech parkas? I don't want to dive in and cop something super expensive when just trying to experiment with the aesthetic, so that's why I don't want to drop to much cash.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAal8xHfV0c&feature=player_detailpage#t=50

Sleeveless techwear

any recommendations for good black techy cargo pants that are still slim/tapered?

>>7180313
I think we've explained enough times in this thread that there is no such thing as "cheap techwear."

Either put up, or shut up.

>>7180476
Yeah I am guilty of no really reading though th thread.. Looks like I'm just gonna be admiring tech wear from afar.

will post some pics from my blog

>>7181560

>>7181560
>calling tumblr a "blog"
Seriously, stop it. I mean if you want to reupload stuff that thousands of people have posted before then go ahead, hell, some tumblrs can be nice even if they're nothing but reposts - but fuck, stop calling it "blogging". That word actually implies effort, creativity, investment of time and thought.
That said, cool fit.

>>7181563

>>7181568
but it is a blog

>>7181568
blog
blɒɡ/Submit
noun
1.
a personal website or web page on which an individual records opinions, links to other sites, etc. on a regular basis.

i just thought a 'blog' was the right thing to call it. what else would it be called?

>>7181604

>>7177562
What are those pants?

>>7181610

>>7179835
Not the guy you answered to but..

Why would an Acronym shell be better if you stay outside for long periods of time? Won't the CG keep you warmer, longer?

Also
>once a down jacket gets wet it's fucked
Why does everyone say that
When my down gets wet I just hang it and wait 'till it's dry, and it doesn't damage anything. Does it?

There's also this new brand of parkas called Parajumpers, sometimes posted in lunarcore threads, those are supposedly waterproof, do you know them?

>>7181610
Where can one find that backpack?

>>7181610
What's this guy's name again?

>>7181621
w2c hoodie and trousers, please?

>>7181692
bump

>>7181842
honestly no idea man
>>>7181689
heres source http://pratadhia.tumblr.com/ then click the daharabudu or w/e it says

>>7181658
waiting for anorak to drop knowledge bombs as I'm not really knowledgeable about this but

>Why would an Acronym shell be better
it wouldn't, imo. what those shells do is use your own body temperature to create heat, I think (that's what the lady at the store told me), so for long periods of time the jacket's heat would regulate itself.

what canada goose does it immediately create a cocoon of heat around your body, as down is a great insulator.

>Why does everyone say that
I don't know.

I've worn my CG chilliwack bomber under heavy rain, and while I did sense some water on me after ten minutes or so, it didn't damage the shell. I let it dry for some hours and it was good as new.

>Parajumpers
PJS is not waterproof. It's water repellant. But the repellance is better than CG's.
PJS is also less warm than canada goose. it doesn't immediately create warmth either, it depends on your own body temperature.

get a CG, they're better imo.

>>7180476
There's no reasonable definition of techwear that excludes companies like Nike, REI, and Patagonia. Those companies make plenty of affordable products.

>>7178212
lol H&M has a jacket that looks a lot like this one.

Anyone know some techwear related black sneakers? Or just black sneakers that go well with techwear.

I was thinking about something like this:
http://shop.gsrnnfillingpieces.com/home/73-filling-pieces-mountain-boot-black-all.html

>>7182101
perhaps?

>>7182106
I really like those. Was thinking about copping, but I need something for the winter.

>>7182106
Actually, I think I'm gonna cop those and wear them as soon as winter is over. Will they be sold out if I wait a few months?

>>7182176
yes there was quite a hype for it + it's waterproof yust spray with it and it should last you a bit.

>>7182176
i can't say but as of now i had a little bit of problems finding a pair for myself. they're supposed to be in stock at nike.com. i got mine from caliroots.com.
great fall sneakers in any case.

Can people post any techwear fits from people on this board?
Are there any?

>>7181997
The water compresses the down which causes it to not block wind/air anymore.

If anyone knowledgeable could confirm this...

>>7182291
Down loses its loft when it gets wet, which is the primary source of its insulating ability. A wet garment will also conduct your body heat to the outside and then evaporatively cool, which happens with any clothing (wool is better at handling this than most).

>>7182331
But when the garment gets dry again, won't that be fixed?

>>7182356
yeah but the original question was as to what was better when staying outside for longer periods of time, a shell or a cg parka.
sum of it all is that shell is better if it rains but the parka is indeed warmer granted it doesn't get wet.

>>7182433
Oh I can agree with that.

What worried me is that if I ever get my CG wet, it'll get less warm and I wouldn't be able to fix it. But apparently as soon as I dry it, it just becomes "normal" again, water has no durable influence on the warmth or quality of the jacket?

>>7182443
nah rain won't ruin it or anything. isn't the cg parka machine washable even?

>>7182456
No I think it's dry clean... I'd have to confirm that.

I'm about to pull the trigger on their Chilliwack parka, I just got concerned by that water issue but apparently it's irrelevant

>>7182459
They have some garments which are completely waterproof, check their website

Their Borden and Foxe bombers have waterproof tech but they're more expensive.

>>7182443
You're fucking retarded.

Yes, it can dry. However, if you're out in the snow for extended periods of time and it gets wet, you're going to be fucking cold. If it hits between 32-40 degrees and you don't have another coat, and the conditions aren't right for snow, and it begins to rain cold rain, you're fucked.

Down is garbage for the reason, if you get it wet while wearing it, it will become a useless rag.

>>7182546
i think he got that dude, no need to sperg out like that because someone has limited knowledge on materials.

>>7182546
I said I aknowledged that and that I didn't mind as long as it could be FIXED. If drying the jacket makes the down take its original shape and the jacket regain its original warmth and insulation capabilities, then it's okay.

Copped this, it's awesome

>>7182555
>>7182580
I think I'm more spergging on the terrible misuse of the word "fix."

There's nothing broken on the jacket, it's just garbage in wet weather. Why would you spend $700 on something with extremely limiting qualities?

>>7182606
Looks like a terrible jacket with minimal waterproofing and no insulation. How is this related to the thread?

>>7182611
>There's nothing broken
Well if there's nothing broken that just implies that down behaves like shit under heavy rain or humid environments but that it doesn't turn to shit "forever". That's the only thing I wanted to make sure of.

>Why would you spend
Because even if it's not waterproof, iirc Canada Goose jackets have some kind of water resistant lining or something, which would make it safe to wear under light snow or a slightly rainy environment.

>cop a never worn TNF shell for cheaps on ebay
>no inner pockets

well fuck

can someone ID this jacket for me please?

>>7182617

it's just a lightweight waterproof jacket

>>7177528
Are there brands out there that focus more on aesthetics over function(similar looking materials but cheaper overall price as well as an emphasis on design over functionality since I live in Australia)
The feeling I keep trying to emulate is that of some black kid tagging up walls in london with a hood over his cap and a breathing mask on while wearing flyknits, being ready to drop his can and run away at a moment's notice from the copper who just noticed him

>>7182674
I can tell, just by looking at it, that it isn't waterproof.

Sorry m8.

>>7182606
what is it? i like the way it looks

guys I just copped Levi's 511 Commuters for half off original price! original is 100 bucks and I got them for 50. pretty good deal for water repellent, odor repellent, and 3M tech
cop while you can

>>7182829
whre from?

>>7182829
What there are water repellent jeans?

W2c water repellent raws

>>7182829
whwwwerrewee

>>7182831
http://us.levi.com/family/index.jsp?categoryId=11844101&cp=3146842.4305630&ab=leftnav:men:shopothercategories:menfeatures:commuterseries:11844101

they're already discounted heavily, and enter in SCARY for the promotional code and you get more savings
pic related are what I copped
original is 90, my bad, but still big discounts

>>7182853
oh
thought you meant cargos
nevermind then

>>7182853
>Orders only ship within the United States
:(((((((

>>7182841
naked and famous

>>7182857
I just gave up looking for commuter cargos here in Europe... Can't find them anywhere.

>>7182861
Levi's also ship to Europe, www.levis.eu

Why does Anorak say Canada goose is the best when there are other, just as warm, waterproof options

>Parajumpers
>Moncler
>CMFR
>Nobis

>>7183095
UK prices are hilariously extortionate

lmao what is "technical" about this sweater?

www.zara.com/us/en/man/knitwear/technical-knit-sweater-c269238p1392039.html

>>7183188
material blend. "technical" has become somewhat of a buzzword to put on clothes not made out of wool, cotton, leather or other materials like that.
it's just riding on a trend, nothing new.

>>7183196
Should I cop? I really need some sweaters for the winter.

>>7183208
no zara is junk

>>7183214
What about COS? Do you any stores that ship to europe? Doesn't have to techwear.

>>7179958

Nothing really I just don't think the quality is that great.

Uniqlo actually makes pretty good techwear too, but the quality isn't there.

I'm all about spending more and buying less. If all you can afford is Patagonia and Uniqlo then be my guest but I think you would probably be happier if you saved up and bought something nicer. Also techwear to me is all about the technology and intricate details. As such the techwear with the most advanced technology and the most intricate design details is naturally the most expensive.

So it's not that you can't have cheap techwear it's just that I don't consider it to be as true to the medium as the pricier stuff. I guess a similar example would be something like leather of which there are many grades of quality. A $300 leather jacket and a $3000 leather jacket are still both leather but when I think of leather I think of quality and timelessness and heritage and the one made in China by a factory that could be gone tomorrow out of emaciated cattle to me isn't really as much of a leather jacket as the one produced with Horween leather from Chicago, Illinois and assembled by Italian artisans.

>>7183220
COS is much better, I like them.

It could just be price snobbery but I always kind of feel the people who do the more expensive version of something usually care more and do it better. However I know that not everyone can afford such and thus companies that do a cheaper alternative are important and there's certainly a lot of design that goes into trying to take something like techwear and doing it on the cheap. A huge amount of R&D is spent not just on trying to make fabrics dry faster or insulate more but also finding ways to make them cheaper and everyone benefits from these innovations that are spearheaded by the companies trying to do the cheapest product. I honestly have less of an issue with cheap techwear than I do a lot of other cheap stuff because of this.

However my problem with companies like Isaora is they fill this mid range price point where if you saved up a little bit more you could get something like Arc'teryx Veilance on sale or spend a bit less and get something top of the line from Patagonia or Columbia. Obviously this type of thing will always happen but I really do have a distaste for mid price point companies because of that. Cheap stuff fills an important role, expensive stuff fills an important role, but mid priced stuff sort of doesn't do anything besides take business from the other two.

>>7183229
Anorak, answer me
>>7182701

>>7183240
imo you'd be better off with some of the more conservative stuff in
>>7168628

>>7183229
Anorak could you put an end to the argument:
>>7181658
>>7181997
>>7182291 etc

>>7177656
canada goose?
I'd be impressed if you found something genuinely nice from them

icebreaker doesn't get enough love
throw in helly hansen, they make /the/ best merino polyurethane base layer.
I just bought some windblock underwear from them the other day, $60 for one pair of boxers, but find me a merino poly blend that stops your dick from falling off sub 20C

if this coat ever drops bellow $500 retail, I will buy it. I have the tech l2 atm, it's killer.

also if anyone is interested in buying a large arcteryx softshell in sort of a bomber style (read large as extra large) I'll sell it for $60, it was $200.

>>7183259
>if you found something genuinely nice from them
p much every one of their down parkas

>>7180447

Levi's Commuter Cargos if you can find them.

Pic related is PRPS. If you have a little more to spend, PRPS, Maharishi, or Stone Island.

>>7183266
>every down parka
I think the silhouette can work, some times, but in all honesty the whole tech concept is supposed to be light and efficient
down is not efficient. the military knows this, that's why they put research into primaloft.
I own both primaloft and a goose down jacket from W+H
the goose down is definitely warmer, but it's excessive. and it can't handle getting wet. it flattens and makes you colder. it also makes you swear like a bastard because even though it's more absorbant than synthetics, it's so thick and lofty there's no breathing room for vapors
primaloft is better in every regard for anyone who needs that added warmth but doesn't want to sacrifice breathability and mobility, and lets not forget the stealthy nature of tech.

canada goose does give you that military tech look because of the large bomber silhouette their coats have, so again it's not impossible to pull off with the right fit on pants and shoes.

I googled 'primaloft canada goose' just to not be a total idiot, can't find anything convincing.

>>7183306
sweat*..
>FUCKING SHIT CUNT FUCK PISS COCKSUCKING COAT

>>7181658

Sorry I should have specified, if you're outside for a long period of time and just standing around the Can Goose would be better. What I mean is if you're walking around outside all day the shell + layers creates a heat regulating ecosystem that allows you to cool down and heat up pretty effectively. Where as the Canada Goose is just one heat level and if you're walking around and start to get hot in it because lets say you had to jog for a couple minutes and it's mid day and the sun is out you can't really do anything about it. With the shell you can use the pit zips if the jacket has them or you can even take the shell off and tie it around your waist or pack it up and put it in a bag. If it's too cold for that you can at least loosen the cuffs and elasticized waist to get some airflow going. You can't really do any of that with the Canada Goose.

>When my down gets wet I just hang it and wait 'till it's dry, and it doesn't damage anything. Does it?

No I'm not talking about damage at all I'm talking about the heat insulating element of the down becoming less effective. If it gets really soaked it can hardly retain heat at all and it also takes a while to dry. If a shell wets out it's not as big of a deal because the jacket isn't providing you with your heat like the parka is, it's the layers underneath that are doing that. Not to mention the shell will dry faster than the down parka.

>>7183306
I agree with everything you said, however if you just want immediate warmth without having to layer or anything, a CG bomber jacket would be a better bet than any thinner, more mobile shell.

Also I don't get why everyone says it can't handle getting wet. Of course it can, they have a water repellant lining. As long as you don't stay half an hour under heavy rain, you're alright.

>There's also this new brand of parkas called Parajumpers, sometimes posted in lunarcore threads, those are supposedly waterproof, do you know them?

Yeah it's really high level stuff but it's also Italian and the design is VERY Italian. I'd never wear it just because I think it's kind of ugly and way too busy so to me the technology doesn't really matter, it's still fashion. Also I dunno how important waterproof down is to me. If the weather sucks and I'm outside it's gotta be because I'm doing something active in which case I wouldn't wear the down anyway. Waterproof down to me seems like something you would want if you had to stand around outside in the cold while it was raining so I think it might be worth it to bouncers or highway workers but for me I don't see the point.

>>7183342
i don't really understand what it means to have "wet down"

is it the outside of the jacket, or the inside?

>>7183345
if you want immediate warmth, I highly recommend looking into schoeller pcm fabric. you have 20 seconds to leave your home and unzip some vents before you burst into flames.

>>7183342
Oh alright. I guess it also depends on the individual, I know that even when I'm walking, unless I run I get cold as fuck when the temperature drops below 5 celsius.
But I get your point; CG provides immediate but constant warmth that you can't regulate, whereas a shell is more versatile.

>not talking about the damage at all
>to dry
So we settled that argument - getting it wet won't damage the jacket in any way and it'll regain its original warmth and insulation properties when it has properly dried up.

Aren't there completely waterproof garments though?
I don't know if you saw that, there was some sort of spray on kickstarter which could be used on clothes to make them aquaphobic; the water would just bounce off and leave the garment completely dry. Don't any shells use that technology?
What are the different kinds of water resistance? I do know Canada Goose uses some waterproof tech on all their jackets but it's not as good as completely water resistant textiles.

>>7183347
>really high level stuff
Should I understand that the quality is on par with CG? You said the latter was the best alternative for anyone searching for warm down garments, was that in regards to the warmth only or to the overall construction and fabrics/production methods?

Have you ever had any experience with Parajumpers jackets or are you making assumptions? I don't know if a more water resistant garment justifies the 250 dollar inflation between the two jackets, especially since Parajumpers seems less warm.

Well, waterproof down has its uses when it's snowing, doesn't it? Or if you're in a humid but very cold environment.

>>7183396
is there anyway i can cop that jacket now?

>>7183426
if you're a large, hop on it.
it's $165 down from $629
I bought it at $275 and still don't regret it.

http://www.isaora.com/#/collections/sale-1/products/tech-2-l-riding-anorak

>>7183442
damn i'm small :(
thanks tho

>>7182655
anyone? someone at least recognizing the brand would be nice

>>7183123

From my experience that's the conclusion I've drawn.

My experience = visiting their show room and main factory, talking with their sales reps (who are constantly shopping the competition) and talking with the main buyer for one of the most important outerwear stores in Canada (which also stocks Moncler).

CMFR is fucking small potatoes compared to Canada Goose. The company has been around for 3 years which not only tells me that they're essentially bandwagon hoppers who started up because of the rising popularity of Canada Goose but also that their R&D is next to nothing. Canadian company that's made in Canada so of course I stand behind them 100% but you can't seriously sit there and tell me they know how to make a product better than Canada Goose. Their angle is that they offer a slightly different aesthetic, it's a small company that's offering Canada Goose for people who would 1. Rather support a small upstart and 2. Prefer a different aesthetic to the one Canada Goose is offering. It's a big market that's continuing to grow, there's plenty of room for smaller players but do they make a better product, do they make a warmer jacket, is there any serious R&D happening over there? No, get real, it's a tiny 3 year old company.

Nobis is straight up fashion, don't even bring them into this conversation. At least CMFR is made in Canada and seems like they really care. Nobis though, seriously? It's made in China with similar price points to Canada Goose and CMFR which are made in Canada. I don't even need to say anything else, it's a scam, high end outerwear is one of the few things this country does really well and these assholes are taking a slice of the pie while outsourcing everything to China. I don't care how big the market is, there shouldn't be any room for dickwads like these guys. And no they don't make a better product and they never will with their business plan. It will always be second rate crap for plebs who don't know any better.

Moncler though is the real deal but are they warmer than Can Goose? I don't think so. But at that level it also gets pretty blurry. I can say this though, Moncler is absolutely more about fashion than Canada Goose. They don't have the same level of R&D going on, they have a decent amount but they're not on the same level as Canada Goose. I love Moncler though, I grew up with Moncler, it's big in the skiing community. It's French too so obviously is has this natural easiness to it but to me they are playing a slightly different game and have been resting on their laurels for a while. It doesn't get as cold in Europe as it does in Canada, they have a slightly different market that is more fashion forward, so that's what they've focused on. Their jackets are top notch, very warm, and really beautiful. Canada Goose though comes from another place, where the original focus wasn't about being chic and warm it was about fuck everything else, we have people climbing mount Everest and they need to not die.

They've also moved into Monclers territory with their Branta line which is dynamite. Canada Goose has a better position in that regard, they started off making functional jackets and now they are worrying more about the fashion side of it. Moncler is more fashion and they're not really as interested in moving into the functional side of it. That's not so much their customer. The other thing is Canada Goose is diversifying out the ass, they know that this big parka trend is not going to last forever, they're rapidly moving into producing more products that have less of a focus on down and they're spending huge amounts on R&D in that regard. Like I said they're also going to Europe with their Branta line and developing the luxury / fashion side of their business. But the linchpin of their success is that they've made the warmest jackets. That's what people know them for and that's why they buy their product. So this absolutely dictates all of the decisions that they make.

People don't buy Moncler for the warmth as much as they do for the style and the status so that is what Moncler focuses on, if they want to survive as a business that's what they have to do. It doesn't mean they couldn't come out with a more technical line or something (which I think they should and it would be a hit) but it's not at the core of their company. With Canada Goose though it is, that's seriously the core of their entire brand identity, that they make the warmest jackets and so everything that they do is going to revolve around that. They're going to make more non-down products and they're going to make more fashion forward products but that element of warmth is always going to be central to it all.

So even if you don't think they make the warmest jackets, the reality is no one else is focusing on it more. Except they do and they will continue to and I don't see anyone challenging it. Even those newer companies like you listed, they wouldn't dare to market that their jackets are warmer because they know they aren't and they know they can't be. So they offer something else like a different style or waterproof elements or whatever.

>>7183594
when i was 14-15 owning a CG parka was the ultimate status garment
most people bought them stolen though
that shifted to fjällräven parkas in a couple of years
would be fun to know what people consider the status garment of 2013

>>7183581
>>7183587
>>7183594
Wow shit bro, I didn't expect such a long answer but that was insightful so thanks!

The brands I listed are just examples though.

To you, there's no outerwear brand who manages to seriously provide competition to Canada Goose then?

>>7183613
CG is still very hyped
But now it's Parajumpers. I don't know if they're as warm but they're waterproof

>>7183581
>>7183587
>>7183594
Which Canada Goose special editions and new collabs do you think are worth looking at, since you said that they're broadening their horizons

>>7183581
What do you think about Ten C? The parka looks awesome but $1000 is a bit of a steep to me.

>>7183240

I dunno all I hear is that you want cheaper and less focus on technicality. I think you want something else entirely. That's like the opposite of techwear. Sounds like you want Japanese streetwear which focuses more on fashion but still has some technical elements, but that's not cheap either. Also what I'm hearing is sort of an element of covertness, I dunno like street technical ninja or something, I dig it.

I'm taking a huge risk on this post but I'm really interested in upping my styling skills so take this folder of fits I put together based on your inspiration and tell me how close to the mark I was. If you don't reply I'll probably never do anything like this again so don't let me down random Anonymous /fa/ poster.

Get back to me with a few of the fits you really dig and I'll tell you to the best of my knowledge what they're wearing and then maybe I (or someone else) can chime in with what you can find that would be cheaper.

Or if I completely fucked up and had no idea what you were talking about then that's cool too.

http://www.mediafire.com/?3vx0b5g0ym8465y

>>7181689
his nick is arvizoo in darahkubiru forum. (btw it means "my blood is blue")

>>7183821
is this a goood deal based on what you had to say about this brand?

>>7183442

>>7183821
wow not him but great collection dude, thanks for sharing

>>7183876
obviously

keep in mind its an anorak

>>7183821
I'm not the guy you answered to but thank you for that .zip bro

>Japanese streetwear
Such as ?

Man I'm kind of struggling to find my own style at the moment after handling a bunch of stuff and seeing a bunch of different designers and what they had to offer...

I like tech-y stuff like Acronym, but I also like workwear inspired things like visvim, or other different styles I can't really define myself like what White Mountaineering, or The Elder Statesman do...

It's pretty vague but do you have any advice to give me on how to take a specific direction? I can't keep mixing stuff up like that

>>7183890
is that a bad thing?

>>7183913
lol

>>7177531
Swims
Uber

>>7183419

>Aren't there completely waterproof garments though?

Yeah scuba diving suits, but as far as jackets are concerned you can get pretty close to the mark but not really. That spray on stuff is hydrophobic and yeah most winter / rain jackets have a coating like that (DWR) already but if you continually pour water on it eventually the resistance gets broken and some of the water seeps through into the jacket, then it wets out and the water repellent coating doesn't really do anything because the jacket itself is now wet.

Also the thing with a jacket is you're dealing with a million other things, it needs to be comfortable, and it should look nice too, and it has to be durable, you need to be able to get in and out of it easy etc. etc. you have all these different elements and so keeping the jacket dry is just one element. If we all focused on nothing but making jackets that stay 100% dry then we would all probably just walk around in crazy tinfoil looking rain ponchos or something. So what a lot of people are doing is focusing more on making things dry faster. Think of all this like an RPG or something, you can keep putting points in making your jacket more water resistant but after a certain point it's not really as beneficial as it used to be at level 1. Now you have to sink a ton of points to even make your jacket slightly more water resistant and it can still wet out if it rains hard enough. So now what you do is start putting your points in other areas like making it dry faster or be more comfortable or allow you to vent excess heat easier etc.

Water resistance isn't the #1 most important thing about a jacket and nothing else matters, it's one part of the equation.

>Have you ever had any experience with Parajumpers jackets or are you making assumptions?

I've handled them in person right next to Canada Goose and Moncler stuff. They're nice but like I said they're not my style and I don't wear my down parka when the weather is shitty anyway because I don't stand outside when the weather is shitty, I either stay inside or if I am outside it's because I'm doing something active like skiing or hiking so I don't see the point in waterproof down. It's seriously made for standing outside in the freezing rain which I don't do.

As for how warm they are it's hard to judge if they're warmer while you're standing in a heated store but I highly doubt they're warmer than Canada Goose. Like I said I wouldn't buy one because I don't like the styling and don't see the point, the extra cost in my mind seems for the extra functionality but it's for a function that I wouldn't utilize so what's the point.

>>7183952
have you handled the levi's x CG collab

I haven't and never will buy it but i'm just curious

>>7183947
I understand.
>DWR
>eventually the resistance gets broken
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7is6r6zXFDc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzB1-pMl6Cw

You talking about that kind of stuff?

Anyway, the point you're making is that when we reach a certain point, water repellance research becomes too redundant to be interesting and it becomes too unpractical to base the garment too much on waterproof capabilities instead of other factors.
But up to now, which are the brands which have put forth the most effort in terms of waterproof research on their jackets?
Similarly, which brands use, at the moment, the most advanced materials when it comes to all round durability - windproof, waterproof, heat evacuation...? Sorry if that question sounds stupid

>>7183952
>right next to Canada Goose and Moncler stuff
Do you feel like there's no other outerwear brand worth mentioning alongside those (serving the same purpose and actually being competitive and interesting as alternatives)?

As for Parajumpers I really don't know how to choose between that and CG since I can't buy both. CG's design is obviously better, but PJS isn't hideous imo, and still it's sometimes both rainy and cold here and I'm chilly af, I don't know if paying that much more would be actually useful

>>7183625

>To you, there's no outerwear brand who manages to seriously provide competition to Canada Goose then?

As far as warmth is concerned? No not really, but obviously there are a million different things and Canada Goose can't be the best at all of them. Even among down Parkas there are other brands I would consider like Moncler. If I had twice as much dough as I do now I would probably own a Moncler parka and rock it when it was slightly warmer out and I wanted to style on people. But since I only have enough to own one down parka and the main reason I own one is for warmth I'm going to go with who does that best. But if I had a different set of values (like many consumers do) maybe I would go somewhere else. The post just above yours said Parajumper is the new status parka, well if all I cared about is status then I guess Canada Goose isn't the best at that anymore. Or if I want outerwear pants, or shoes, or tops, or something more avant-garde, or more obscure, or I want to support a smaller company, or any sort of jacket that's not down or not being used exclusively for warmth then yeah I'm going to go somewhere else.

I hope you didn't get the idea that I think Canada Goose is some ultimate outerwear brand that is the be all end all of everything because they're not. They do one thing extremely well and they're constantly improving on it, in 5 or so years they also might have a few other things they could be the best at, we'll see what happens.

>>7184032
>But up to now, which are the brands which have put forth the most effort in terms of waterproof research on their jackets?

If u want something 100% waterproof just get a PVC raincoat

You don't even need advanced research for that

what u mean is keeping it waterproof while not sacrificing breath-ability/comfort i think

I wouldn't say its brands but more textile makers tho (gore-tex, scholler)

i dunno lol

>>7184061
wtc cheap pullover raincoat that looks good

>>7184073
norse x elka is the one i own
i have no exp. with other raincoats

zero moisture transfer except through the bottom, the hood, and the vent int he back

>>7184086
is it pullover?

>>7184098
nope its zipup

Anorak the way you talk about mid-price brands seem to make it sound that it's only okay to either

1) cut as much corners as possible until you have the minimum you could consider product

2) don't cut any corners

Is there no happy medium?

Do any companies make water resistant tee shirts and sweatpants/jeans?

>>7184110
this is for things in general not just techwear btw

>>7183637

They just did a collaboration with Sophnet but I don't think you'll find it outside of Japan.

>>7183643

I've heard very good things, ex-CP Company personnel and what not. For me though I find that Made in Italy outerwear is not really cut to my morphology. I've tried on CP Company and Stone Island stuff before and it's just not really for me. The reality is it's kind of cut for big old dudes that usually have distinguished guts. Doesn't mean no one else can wear it but that's the target customer and that's who it's cut for. The closer you fit to that shape the better it's going to work out.

In contrast I'm almost the complete opposite I have a very slender frame and usually Japanese stuff fits me spot on, that's a big reason why I wear so much of it. But if you're a bigger dude or have a more typical American frame then Stone Island and other Italian outerwear brands are going to fit spot on and really make you look good. I like it but the more you learn about fit and how each brand tackles it the more you kind of come to the conclusion that some brands are just not meant for you and that's how I feel about most made in Italy outerwear. So if you're like me and JP brands really fit well on you, I doubt Ten C will be the same story.

Otherwise I'm really interested in how they're going to evolve over the next 5 or so years. Obviously there's a lot of CP Company signatures going on right now but they're going to come into their own more as time goes on so it should be one to watch.

>>7183876

Looks fine to me, but you can't unzip the front? That would annoy me.

>>7183897

>I can't keep mixing stuff up like that

Huh? Yeah sure you can. I dunno just wear what you like. For me personally I don't categorize brands by anything but their silhouette. I'll wear anything together as long as the silhouettes match. I think brand synergy is pretty stupid. Like I enjoy being decked out in brands that all collaborate together or wearing head to toe one brand is always kind of fun but at the end of the day I just buy the brands that really speak to me. When it comes to getting dressed and actually putting them together in the morning I just make sure that the silhouettes link up.

I had the same problem as you years ago and it really fucked up my wardrobe, I was buying raw dennys and workwear stuff, and then crazy party stuff, and then super slim dior homo style, and then trying to do goth ninja as well and it was really retarded I kept dividing up my purchases so much that none of my stuff went together.

Now my wardrobe is much more cohesive because everything fits together, I still have the same sort of diversity of brands but when I buy something I don't think about it fitting within a certain style I think about it fitting within a certain shape. Like I wouldn't buy a flannel shirt and think okay now I need to pair it with jeans and boots and a cowboy hat. I'd think okay this is a pretty slim flannel it's not going to work with baggier pants, it has to go with a slimmer pant and do I have a pair that would match the colour of the flannel alright I do, then I'm set.

>>7184166
where do you get all your inspo pics and stuff?

also should i go into fashion if i like it? what would be the best way to start?

>>7183996

No but I've heard plenty about it and I'm not really interested either.

>>7184032

>But up to now, which are the brands which have put forth the most effort in terms of waterproof research on their jackets?

This is really difficult to gauge, especially because when one company makes a new development it's not long before everyone else starts using it as well. You'd be better off googling around for most waterproof jacket or something and go from there. I'm honestly not sure about this one because I don't think of product in these sort of absolutes. Or better yet if you have a store nearby that carries these sorts of brands we're discussing go talk to them about it. Ask them who they think does the most waterproof jackets and what you need it for and their experiences and what not.

>>7184341
why do you never post fits?

you dont need to include your face

also what fashion school are the best?

>which brands use, at the moment, the most advanced materials when it comes to all round durability - windproof, waterproof, heat evacuation...?

This is another tough one because there's so many companies that have their own in house technology and it gets pretty hazy when you try to compare them. You're quickly moving into a territory that's beyond my scope. At the end of the day I'm a fashion designer. You would be better off going to /out/ they actually have really great techwear threads that are all about functionality and tech specs and really not so much about the fashion side of things. Or start googling around, there's websites that do gear reviews and compare specs. I'm interested in this sort of stuff but it's more like one part of the puzzle for me, I'm not so much as interested in what has the absolute best water repellency or the longest wet out times or whatever. The type of clothing I'm interested in designing and working with is still very much fashion, think of it for the person who's active and goes outdoors but they need something for when they're hanging out in the city and want to look sleek and cool. They can't really wear all their hardcore outdoorsmen gear but they still want a lot of the same functionality. That's what I'm interested in creating. So when you talk to me about stuff that's 100% functionality I become more and more useless because it's not really my specialty, you're better off talking to people who really use this gear and push it as hard as they can.

>Do you feel like there's no other outerwear brand worth mentioning alongside those (serving the same purpose and actually being competitive and interesting as alternatives)?

I dunno when I think of down jackets I'd buy I think of Canada Goose and Moncler, I haven't done as much research into this because for me it really feels like a no-brainer. I've talked to enough people to feel comfortable with the belief that they're the best.

>>7184341
thanks

>>7184358
amorak, how do i find my style?

like i really like gothninja fits, and i love jap streetstyle fits, and i love streetware fits, and i love workwear fits.

like i really like it all, but how do i figure out what i kind of should and want to wear and then mix them properly and stuff?

also could you post pics of you wardrobe or something?

>>7184358
in that zip file you made, are any of those your own fits?

>>7184110

This is how I see it.

The top price points drive innovation by using the most cutting edge technologies, that's who's paying for all the R&D that everyone else benefits from, the top companies making the most expensive products have the largest budget for this sort of thing.

However you also have the bottom price point companies who are innovating in their own way. They're taking these expensive cutting edge technologies and figuring out how to make it cheaper to produce with as much of the same effect as possible. Everyone else benefits from these cost-reducing innovations too.

What does the middle price point do? There's a reason this mid tier price point has evaporated in recent years and it's not just because of the dwindling middle class, it's because people are becoming more informed as shoppers. Internet discussions and reviews and comparisons have seriously fucked over the middle price point brands which offer very little. People are realizing they either want to save up more and get something higher end or if they don't really care about the product type in question they're going to go as cheap as possible.

I dunno this is just my opinion, it doesn't mean anything.

are ma1 bombers techwear?

>>7184220
>Yeah sure you can
But what if all the aesthetics I like don't go well together and I want to choose something specific to really elaborate on instead of mixing up stuff to no avail?

Eg. I can't combine pink visvim FBT Amdo folks and that rather colorful jap workwear style with monochrome utilitarian acronym shells. You know?

>>7184500
>I can't combine pink visvim FBT Amdo folks and that rather colorful jap workwear style with monochrome utilitarian acronym shells. You know?

you might be able to if you tried hard enough
sounds like gajin-core

>>7184521
That was an example.

It's just that combination of really different styles and design languages seems off to me. Ramones + visvim corduroy pants + a Givenchy tee sounds horrible compared to an exclusively either goof or jap workwear or streetwear style

>>7184574
i think you should go into the store and try pairing stuff urself irl on ur own body

i dunno

>>7184346

>where do you get all your inspo pics and stuff?

forums, magazines, web stores, flickr, ebay, yahoo auctions japan

>also should i go into fashion if i like it?

Sure why not? Here's my thing you need to be somewhat self aware in regards to if you think you can succeed. This is what everyone says about every creative field "you'll never make it the competition is too stiff". You need to be able to take a step back and honestly answer if you think you're better than the competition. That was the conclusion I came to and so I went to fashion school. Don't go into something unless you think you can be very good at it, that's my advice for someone questioning going into fashion. If you regularly find yourself thinking "I could do better than that" you're probably ready.

>what would be the best way to start?

Learn as much as you can before you go to school or an internship or start your own brand. Once you begin doing any of those things you will quickly have no time whatsoever to dedicate to anything else. Soak up as much information as you can from the internet before you take the plunge, that's what I did and it worked out very well.

>>7184357

>why do you never post fits?

Because I don't want to be doxed, if you're not an oldfag you'll never understand. I've been on 4chan for 9 years, I've seen countless peoples lives ruined by posting a picture of themselves. It seems incredibly unlikely that something like that would happen today but it's not worth the risk. I know that mostly stopped ages ago and this is one of the tamest boards on 4chan but you have no idea who's lurking out there. It's the double edged sword of anonymity, it allows people to share themselves like I'm doing now but it also allows people to completely fuck each other over if someone drops their anonymity. I'm already a tripfag, I'm already a huge target for people, sometimes I'm not particularly polite, if someone found my facebook via a picture and some other information I've posted before I could still be seriously fucked over.

The only reason I can post the way I do is because I'm anonymous. Look at all the past posters who revealed pictures of themselves and then stopped posting as soon as things started working out for them off-site. It's because they didn't want their 4chan activity tied to the rest of their online identity and I don't blame them. I'm already feeling closer and closer to pulling the plug. I kind of want to start blogging and doing fashion writing and styling and posting fits and stuff but I can't really do that and still post on 4chan because this site is so toxic so maybe I have to separate the two in the future.

My dream is to become someone like TK from Silly Thing. His job is basically being a professional know it all. He knows everything that's going on in Japan, HK, and Europe, has an extremely deep understanding of design and fashion. Basically he has a design firm and people hire him to make their stuff more cool, he does everything fashion design, styling, even advertising, car companies hire him to make their ads appeal to wealthy fashionistas. On top of it he has his own magazine where he writes about whatever he thinks is cool and his own store where he stocks whatever brands he likes. He also has his own fashion line which is composed entirely of collaborations with other people. Ultra cool brands just approach him for a collaboration and that's how he puts out his own designs, through other peoples really dope labels. He knows absolutely everyone in fashion and people work with him for that reason alone.

That's exactly what I kind of want to do but I have to start by getting a twitter and blog and shit and reaching out to people and really developing an online presence which I don't really have. Maybe it's time to leave 4chan, I've been posting so much lately maybe because I feel guilty about it. This site has given me so much and I feel like I need to pay it back before I finally ditch. I don't see how I can continue to share myself as candidly once I start working for real companies and am totally inside the machine. Not to mention all the writing I do could be going on a real blog and getting me the attention of magazine editors and legit companies, instead of helping a handful of people on 4chan and then dissipating into the ether.

>>7184386

Just try out lots of stuff and you'll naturally find out what works and what doesn't. You wont know until you actually try it and wear it. I really like workwear but I know it doesn't work on me. Because I've worn it and I find that for example when I wear a flannel shirt I just look like a really typical white dude. I've owned really nice flannel and I've tried on really cool flannel and I love the history behind it all this but seriously it does not matter the cut or fit or colour. When I put it on I instantly look like the most stereotypical indie white dude on the planet and I really hate it.

You gotta experiment and try and fail and it takes years but eventually you really begin to get a strong idea of what works and what doesn't and how to match things together and it's different for everyone. Just look at tons of fits, try to imitate it somewhat and see how it works and if anything feels uncomfortable, drop it. You'll get the hang of it soon enough.

>>7184420

Nope, although that would have been cute.

>>7184500

Download that zip I posted. You can totally wear FBT's and workwear with techwear. I've fucking put Cassette Playa with Acronym, anything is possible.

>>7184574

A rick jacket and Visvim cords actually sounds like exactly what Seenmy / Stephen Mann / Thenonplace does and it looks really slick.

Your problem is you've been fed too much of this curated internet imagery and you have this idea that rick only goes with rick or whatever, I used to have the same problem, you just need to learn to let go. The reality is no one on the street has any idea what you're wearing and if it's meant to go together as says the internet. It's fucking clothing, brand synergy is the biggest load of bullshit ever. If anything those head to toe designer fits often look more unnatural and like costumes than anything else. Yeah sometimes a brand fits someones personality perfectly and they look incredible but that's rarely the case for everyone else.

>>7184676
post ur blog or ref library b4 u leave

pls answer

http://fuuka.warosu.org/fa/thread/6854512

anorak what do you think of rick owens

>>7184649
>Soak up as much information as you can

any where other than fa, sz, sufu that you would suggest?

>find yourself thinking "i could do better than that"

like is design aspects? i really cant tell since sometimes i think of cool ideas, but then realize they are like something i saw before

>>7183294
Thanks bro, finally got an answer.

>>7182744

I can tell, by the rain that fell on it, that it is. Sorry brah

>>7182754

Sandro Rocket Jacket

>>7177583
I'm looking for a jacket kind of like what this guy's wearing- Black minimal, warm. Any suggestions?

Preff stay around $200

>mfw this thread turned into an Anorak Q&A

>>7184891
I should also mention I'd like to be able to bike in it.

>>7184920

Chrome, Rapha, Swrve, Mission Workshop

OP here - thanks everyone for keeping up a healthy techwear thread. Probably something that needs to happen more often.

>>7184937
>Everyone
>Not just Anorak

>>7184857
I can tell by the fact that the zippers aren't sealed properly, that the rest of the jacket isn't sealed properly, so if you get caught in an actual downpour, you're getting wet.

I dont know if this is tech ware or lunar core its made by Superdry Limited

>>7184422
I see

Just started trying to get an actual wardrobe, and I'm trying to budget how much money should be going into each aspect/piece of it.

It's harder, compared to something like computers/technology, to find a good... i don't know how to say it.. "expected budget."

>>7185036
I'd say lunar core

I like it

>>7177627
Can someone reccomend a vest similar to this one?

>>7185036
holy ugly fucking pockets, batman

>>7183821
>>7183821
not the anon you responded to, but this folder is fucking awesome.

>>7182701
what kind of a fuccboi is you?

Anyone know what jacket this dude's wearing? Can't really find much on the pic

>>7185036
That actually doesn't look that bad unless there's a giant logo on the back like they sometimes do.

>>7185267

Yeah and he never fucking replied, last time I try to help style someone. Use google or something next time asshole.

>>7185727
anorak i want some slutty looks for fall please help

>>7182655
>>7183454
fa pls

>>7184755
ANORAK pls respond

anyone own the Marmot Minimalist jacket? wanted an opinion on it before buying it

>>7185730
you might be pretty but i have a uterus

>>7184660
you got me pretty fucking scared.. is it safe to post fits as an anon?

>>7185771
you're pathetic and sad

>>7185730

we've seen sheer panel tops

but what about sheer panel pants?

>>7185779
been done

>>7185779
givenchys done it

sheer panel skirts too

>>7185776
Don't be scared of postings fits in /fa/

4chan doesn't really dox like it used to.

At the very least just block your face, edit the pic, and rename it if applicable.

kurwa

>>7185794
try something like this

>>7185794

fuck I dunno then, what about shredded sweaters? pair one with the pants and you're set

>>7183821
Hey, its the anon from the initial post Anorak. This kid seems to capture the initial mood I was going for

>>7185829

>>7185840

>>7185845
A more "fashion-refined" version of this

>>7185819
were on to something here

>>7185851

>>7185859

>>7185819
Hey Anorak, I might be wrong here, I know you're heavily into skiing, do you hike at all?
Just wondering, what boots do you use for hiking? I have a pair of Sportiva ones, but I'd rather get something more traditional. I've tried Diemme and Danner on in person, but I still find something lacking, though Diemme is still my main choice at the moment, since there's no way of getting Limmer.
Just looking for something light-weight/mid-weight for half-day hikes or sometimes overnight camping/hiking sessions

>>7185727
i love this fit

>>7185819
what gear do you use for skiing?

like clothing and skis and stuff?

thanks

>>7180023
i think thats lunarcore mate

fuck techwear and lunarcore are so similar

>inb4 people call me a fuccboi because probably they are the same

>>7185959
techwear is simply based around technical innovation whereas lunarcore is based around an aesthetic, their basis is completely different

>>7185959

The lines are blurry, and the palette is indeed leaning towards lunar, but this is a garment whose weight is measured in grams, and it is made of materials that have trademarks at the end of their names. Hence, techwear.

http://www.klattermusen.se/produktsida.php?lang=EN&ID=1033&sex=2&curr=EUR

>>7185967
oh ok, thanks, theres is a techwear version but more like smart or dadcore? like with padded shoulders but not too big and pretty minimalistic

>>7185985

Yes, check out Arc'teryx Veilance.

>>7185989
ok, thanks m8, i really like it

>>7185829

Drkshdw Jeans (I think)
Vans Half Cabs (I think)

>>7185840

Supreme Hat
Acronym Jacket
Visvim E-Cat
Acronym Pants
Nike Lunarglide 5
Wtaps Hoody

>>7185845

Thrifted Hoody
Rick Owens Pants
Rick Owens Dunks

>>7185851

Wtaps Hat
Acronym Jacket
Supreme Pants
Nike Shoes (someone else ID these I'm bad with Nike)

>>7185859

Stone Island Shadow Project Shirt
Wtaps BDU's
Nike Flyknits

>>7185866

Visvim x Number (N)ine Nomad
Visvim Backpack
Visvim FBT's

Now 4chan won't let me post all the links I had so here's a pastebin in order to read the rest of this post:

http://pastebin.com/7rWADZnj

Cheers

>>7185985
A lot of companies do conciliate more traditional forms with technical innovation - like Arc'teryx Veilance or Garbstore.
A lot of Japanese brands do this as well, combining more traditional styles such as peacoats, duffle coats, etc with fabrics such as windstopper and goretex, like White Mountaineering or Visvim.
If you're into archaic technical wear, you could look at a brand I really like, Nigel Cabourn, who reproduces a lot of vintage militaria and mountaineering wear, using Mackintosh fabrics, oilcloth, Ventile cottong and similar outdated technical fabrics, I really like his stuff.

>>7186042
Appleseed's shoes in that picture look like Nike Air Force Downtowns, could be wrong though

>>7186047
i really loved the Arc'teryx Veilance fall collection, its really my style, unfortunately theres no way i can get one of those fine clothes, well maybe i would buy some fabric and make some for myself

>>7186047

Nigel Cabourn is fucking awesome.

opinions on these? thinking about copping

>>7186128
Pretty cool, I've seen lots of band t-shirts, but never one for John Cage

>>7186128
forgot pic
>>7186135
u wot

>>7185888

Only a little bit. I use these:

http://www.corcoranandmatterhorn.com/ItemDisplay.asp?Style=1697&CategoryID=40

>>7185946

At the moment nothing, I don't live in a place with any ski hills and the last few times I've been home I've just used free rentals because I'm friends with someone who owns a mountain. I might be moving back to somewhere with mountains soon though so then I'll need to get decked out again I have a few friends who are sales reps for Salomon and Rossignol back home so I'll probably use whatever they can hook me up with.

As for clothes I wear Uniqlo Heattech long johns, an Arc'teryx thermal, and a Visvim hoody, underneath some old Burton snow pants, and an Acronym J27.

>>7186150

Oh also black diamond gloves and smart wool socks lol.

>>7186150
Ah, ok, that's certainly not the kind of thing I'm looking for, but thanks anyway.
Out of interest, do you read Third Looks?
I'm almost certain those TK Pics you post are from Rocky's editorial

>>7186135

sizable kek

>>7186135

bump

bump

dont die until I can look over this thread tomorrow....

>>7178192
That looks cosy