/fa/ - Fashion

prices tho

i'm not a fucking millionaire

>>7060971
Same, such a shame.

>>7060978

>>7060971
>>7060979
in the past there's been some pretty pervasive issues w/ quality too. i'd guess he's rolled some of those out -- probably those that stemmed from letting student assistants do the sewing -- but you really have no way of knowing.

bump, cool thread

he really fell off the radar for awhile especially with the reveal of his previous pieces (lack luster and kind of amateur).
really cool collection and seems to be fleshing out his vision with more vigor than before.
perhaps a approach similar to carols in regards to business and design but ofc. conceptually v.distinct.

I didnt want to start my own thread, but i havent been on /fa in a while, has aw13 gyakusou dropped? if so, w2c? i want that vest.

>>7060926
god damn i love that hood

dude ain't shit

top kek really, fuckboy copies tricky ricky and boris all day, how the fuck is that creative at all?

yeah nigga made a skull backpack, congrats mofucka, now make something that doesn't look like shit and actually justifies the ridiculous pricetag

nigga you ain't mastermind japan, just quit son

>>7062209
bump plz tech lozerz

>>7062215
you wouldnt last a minute in my hood.

>>7062275
>copying rick
>coping BORIS
no one copies boris lmao
just because you dont think it's worth the price tag doesn't mean it isn't
it's a lot more thoughtful than mmj.

just don't post at all or stick to hyping latex and resin crushed denim.

>>7060901
it's all much too busy for my taste

>>7062347
hwat do you mean no one copies boris?

i dont know anything about him other than like 3 fits i have seen and his j curve pants

>>7062391
his recent collection was actually p.novel tbh.
regardless, his biggest hits are usually when he blatantly rips off his peers designs, manufacture processes and/or just throws random shit into washing machine full of detergent followed by an RNG pricetag ofc.

his article in the sz mag is beyond comic.

>>7062425
huh

i liked his new stuff

links to the article or his "biggest hits"?

also how is the quality of sz mag? can you only buy it online and are there pdf's of it?

>>7062391

The waxed/crushed thing he does isn't exclusive, but he does it in a pretty signature way. The hanging tag. His cuts on jersey and fleece are pretty distinct, given a much stronger or at least more overt streetwear/athletic vibe than other designers in that same milieu.

>>7062425
In the avant-garde niche there are only so much techniques and styling going on right now that it's no surprise many look similar.

>>7062391
damn w2c a sweater like that that is cheap?

>>7062391
That is the greatest sweater I have ever seen.

>>7062497
>streetwear/athletic
thats what they say but that's really all anyone says although the foundation is p.lacking.
how does he do it in a signature way...?
it just looks like a unthoughtful combination of random techniques and cuts quickly strewn together with his clip so you know it's bbs.

>>7062513
not true.
aitor, sruli, marvielab, leu, inasice are all pretty young labels but are still very distinct.

>>7062527
>>7062603
iirc it's a crazy sweater that's effectively an astronauts wet dream produced of like abillion synthetics
im not 100% sure tho, but the pricetag was i think around 3k?

>>7062613
Oh my god that looks so warm for winter lol

>>7060926
>>7060937
really amazing.
>that price

>>7062630
3k is steep but that's easily grail status.

>>7062487
i think it can only be bought online
a friend of mine lent me his but tbh it's kind of shit and sort of reeks fanboyism opposed to a critical look at design and process.
i.e you'll probably find more lines of them describing the eeriness of a workshop than the clothing itself.

>>7062648

It's sold at I.T., H. Lorenzo, Atelier, Rail, and DSM.

>>7062630

This is from spring '14, so it hasn't even been released. I haven't seen any folks discussing wholesales or retails for it. You could always ask some of his stockists if you wanted to get an actual price instead of just guessing?

I can't imagine that it's a synthetic given how the majority of the collection is natural fibers/hides. The only time there are any large-scale uses of synthetics has almost always been outerwear or on accessories, like the Ortlieb stuff.

>>7062682
i read the figure off /fa/
i think if you look at ss14 it's kind of radically different from what he's done before and definitely a change in direction.
perhaps you could ask real stockists if you wanted an actual idea instead of just guessing.

>>7062668
tons of smaller boutiques stock it, too -- & backissues. i feel like i see it everywhere i go.

>>7062173
do you want to expand on the aitor-carol connection? aitor seems so much more whimsical [ or at least, lacking in that carol fascism of form ] and so invested in his own weird little draft --> design process.

>>7062209
woww interesting question! bumping 4 interest xDD but actually someone fill me in.

>>7062812
no time to dump these -- but here's more "when football hooligans become hindu gods" material

>>7062812
is there a picture of this drawing that accounts for a person with healthy legs/posture?

>>7062725
yo

did you cop those YY pants from that dude yet?

>>7062812
that the visual design is almost secondary to the concept, so it's rather a manifestation of some sort of 'protest' likened to maybe a mobile installation which almost isnt intended for consumption opposed to clothing for aesthetic perception and appreciation.

the connection isnt in design process but idea, i dont know if aitor is more 'whimisical' but perhaps lacking financially and definitely young compared to carol.
contextually they're obviously very different but if you take it into account i think they're definitely coming from a similar place.
>i.e half their shit is borderline unwearable .___________________________________.

>>7062862
i didnt want to cop them i wanted to send him a link for some real neato shit that would fit him i think but the fag replied like 5minslate when i asked him over 12hours earlier
fug him man

>>7062855
profile of the tibia is caved in, just exaggerated in that pic.

>>7062173

yo can u upload that aitor folder pls

>>7062957
http://www.mediafire.com/download/6e8kw21fk665yx1/06.05.2013+TL+fashun.rar
its the aitor folder

>>7063062
you have your shit nicely organized. any runway or fits li like i just save in one folder and it is now like 700 pics and it is to big to organize

>>7063130
autism perks.

Aitor is one of the only interesting new designers around. To see people shit talking him is pretty laughable, to see people calling him unoriginal is beyond ridiculous.

I don't think people on /fa/ understand just how much fashion actually exists. The fashion industry is one of the largest and oldest industries on the planet. One of the reasons there is so much paper work and bullshit when it comes to sending clothing around the world is because the legislation written for importing / exporting textiles is often hundreds of years old, and was developed by each country independently. To modernize these laws or try to globalize them would be such a massive undertaking that no one even attempts it. This is a big part of why fashion is designed so far in advance, because it takes forever for all the paperwork to clear and all the import / export documentation to run through each and every country involved. This is a system that's so old and so massive that it actually can't be dictated or changed at this point.

Almost everyone on the planet wears clothing. Just stop for a second and think about that. There is almost nothing you can come up with that more people share in common than the fact that they wear clothes. It's up there with breathing air and eating food. Think of how much vintage clothing exists and how many are wearing it. Think of how many multinational fashion companies there are that sell an identical product across the planet. Think about how many independent fashion stores, tailors, seamstresses, dressmakers, etc. there are in your city alone.

Now think about someone like Aitor Throup in the middle of all of this who does what he does on a scale where he produces maybe 500 garments a year. There are factories in China that can produce 500 garments in an hour.

Over 99% of the clothing that exists on planet Earth would be considered unoriginal in comparison to Aitors.

You idiots need to get a clue, designer fashion isn't even 1% of the clothing that's out there, avant-garde designer fashion isn't even 0.1% of the clothing that exists out there.

No one on here has even handled any of this clothing in person, and you're passing judgement on it like it was nothing. You will NEVER be able to accurately judge clothing from a jpg or video, especially designer fashion, ESPECIALLY avant-garde designer fashion. This is almost as futile as rating food based on pictures you have seen or videos you have watched of it being made. You can discern almost nothing about the texture, the fit, the finishing, the construction. Do you even realize that designers have started to design their clothes so that they will sell better online? This means using certain materials and colours that show up better with today's cameras, it means straying away from designs that may not look good viewed head on, it means not wasting time on finishing and textures that can only be appreciate in person. This is all happening because of people like you, idiots who judge clothing based on jpgs and nothing more.

The fact that you consider someone like Aitor unoriginal is a sign of the times, this type of clothing cannot be conveyed through digital means, despite all of the efforts Aitor has put forward otherwise. To the neu-fashion mob of tumblr addicted bozo's all they can see is two images that look alike. Pic related. Each one of these knives feels and operates differently. Each one serves a different purpose, each one was created utilizing a different shape. Many of them were created utilizing different techniques and materials. Both the bladesmiths who produced these and the chefs that use them came to the conclusion that each and every one of these knives was worth creating. No matter how similar they may seem to the untrained eye, to the expert that knows how to use each and every one, he would never use one for the purpose of another, no matter how similar you may think they are, they are anything but.

Clothing is light years away from these levels of similarities and yet suffers the exact same problem of digital imagery. If you judge by pictures alone, without actually handling, holding, and using this type of tactile product you will never understand the subtleties and differences that lie in the details.

Honk Honk

>>7063481
>>7063471
>>7063463
what exactly do you think /fa/ is for bruh

god i want everything

>>7063463
>>7063471
>>7063481
http://fuuka.warosu.org/fa/thread/6854512
you never responded here :(

>>7063604

I have too much on my plate again, I thought I was going to have a nice break for a while. Things went wrong and you have no idea how swamped I've been since I wrote that. Now I have a lull because it's thanksgiving and everything is closed and I can't do any work even if I wanted to but first thing on Tuesday I have an interview with an internationally recognized outerwear company. Then I have school 5 days a week, the presentation of a final collection in one month that I still haven't really completed, and three design competitions I am trying to win, one of which means $10,000 and could change everything. It could mean I'd have the financial means to go work for a European designer who's discussed heavily on SZ and who one of my teacher's is childhood friends with.

Actually I don't even know why I responded to this thread, I should probably be doing something other than getting angry, but maybe it's because I know exactly the type of shit Aitor has gone through and to see his output afterwards called unoriginal when it's anything but is infuriating.

>>7063706
come back when your famous

>>7063706

fuck you brah

>>7063706
sick posts
gl w/ work

iirc only one guy called aitor out for being unoriginal and it was completely ridiculous

not so subtle bump for sick content

>>7063706
Ilu gl godspeed bb xoxo

>>7063706
wow good luck man

how do you pronounce his name? i read it like

Ay-tur Throop