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'avant-garde'

what is avant-garde to you (specifically in fashion)?

a lot of ppl debate this or that designer being avant-garde or bemoaning the lack of modern avant garde designers

what to you constitutes avant-garde? who are some avant-garde designers? is there still such a thing as avant-garde in the fashion industry?

bumping w/ some CDG, considered by many 2 be groundbreaking

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>> No.7047060

stick to your little drawings kid

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>>7047055

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>>7047075

>> No.7047092

>>7047053
It's an expression to make shitty, laughable clothing seem high class and artsy. Therefore, you can use it for almost any abnormal-looking fashion. The "abnormal" is important: Stuff like bad workwear and fedoras don't cut it. Simple bad taste doesn't suffice, it must be worse.

For example, imagine goof nigger, but add a psychedelic poncho in all colors of the neon rainbow, with high heeled whore boots instead of sneakers, on a male model with stubble, guyliner, libery spikes and feathers in his hair. One would be hard-pressed not to call that avant garde.

>> No.7047097

>>7047053
Hey mang, those are kul

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>>7047092
so there's no redeeming features of so-called avant-garde clothing to you?

>>7047083

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>>7047104

>> No.7047134

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AVANT GARDE MEANS WEARING BLACK DRAPY SHIT AND THAT IS LITERALLY IT

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u think u know about fashion or some thing do u tinfoil m8 u dress like shit and just post random pictures from collections to try to emulate other trips on this board. u couldn't even describe why u like an outfit u fucking nigger

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>>7047137

>> No.7047160

>>7047134
#rekt

>> No.7047165

>>7047134
FIT BATTLE

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>>7047156

>> No.7047174

facebook / groups/ 172896766231795/

join this facebook group 'avant gang' for a good laugh. people post WAYWTs of themselves in boot cut jeans and stripy polo shirts and think they are the avant youth of our generation. reply if u want 2 see some of the fking ridiculous posts inside

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>> No.7047224

avant-garde really has lost its meaning

>> No.7047255

>>7047224
You know it.

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avant-garde is challenging the current standards by working against them and thinking outside the box.

then eventually some of those elements will be assimilated into the mainstream and the cycle continues.

It's basically just experimenting around and some of it will stick. That's it.

Rick owens is a good example of such a designer but many don't like him anymore round /fa/ cause everyone's dickriding rick for his shoes and hating on popular things(at least on /fa/) is cool and edgy as fuck.

>> No.7047291

>>7047282
>many don't like him anymore round /fa/
that's not true at all

>> No.7047310

>>7047282
That's a really nice description of it. saved.

>> No.7047777

>>7047291
yea it is
rick is to /fa/ what neutral milk hotel is to /mu/

>> No.7047786

>>7047282
when i first made that picture
/fa/scist, twerk, momma dod, and poet legit got pissed off i just "dissed" their diety.

and kept bitching about how that is a kunk post hurrrrrr

>> No.7047793

>>7047786
lol i made that image stfu

>> No.7047942

>>7047777
nice quads and theory

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>> No.7048378

>>7047282
This. It's like Captain Beefheart and Frank Zappa. Beefheart was fucking crazy and regarded as genius/avant garde af, but he was underground. Zappa kinda played the same style, but cut it to a more mainstream taste.

>> No.7048415

>>7047786
when that image was made some people corrected it saying it was quoting an SZ user but I don't think anyone got pissed...

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avant-garde design usually feels too forced. I dont like the idea of striving towards pushing the bounderies and doing totally new stuff *just because*.

>> No.7048455

>>7048441
Haha that pic

>> No.7048469

>>7048441

>I dont like the idea of striving towards pushing the bounderies and doing totally new stuff *just because*.

Why not?

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>>7048441
i think aiming to be seen as avant-garde is dumb but aiming to do something different just for the sake of it is good

there might not be a difference idk

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>>7048469
I try to analyse and motivate my opions, but when it comes to art and design it gets hard.

Imo if you have a reason to create something new and experiment I'd like to think it is something positive, like exploring a new material or new technique or making something more functional etc.

A lot of avant-gard design feels forced because it does not push anything, it doesnt have a reason to be avant-garde, it more like a excuse to design something porely.

I want reason etc. for design I think, if there isnt a reason behind the design, why design.


yo, dont take this 2 seriously im just ranting lol

>>7048476
I think I get your point

>> No.7048823

>>7048476
Rei just does her own thing. Yet she is avant-garde as fuck.

Yohji was so avant-garde he totally and utterly changed the fashion world making all his silouhette referred as something that was typically from Japan. He redefined a whole fucking country soft power.

#GOATs

>> No.7048873

>>7048703
>porely

>> No.7048904

>>7048873
>porely
>like my spelling

lol, I should have noticed that.

>> No.7048922

Bump for potentially interesting thread
>Tfw nothing to contribute

>> No.7051604

bump

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avant garde is a joke
i dont think a lot of designers subscribe to the idea but magazines and bloggers seem to love to associate it

this is now a joke thread

>> No.7051639

>>7047282
iirc avant garde literally means 'before popularity' or 'novel innovation', or s/t.

>> No.7051643

it's really funny to see tinfoil trying to get into a real discussion

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>Joke thread
i was hangin' w/ sum frens n they kept rubbing my jacket
after, my jacket smelled really nice and i wanted to know the perfume
i went down to the local mens grooming store or w/e
some lame af chick who had a bunch of holes around her mouth where peircing are meant to be but obv arent because job
refused to sniff my boiled wool ol'man looking jacket to derive similar perfume
kept my money and asked frens l8r instead

plebs.

>> No.7051650

When Rei and Yohji first debuted and brought their different aesthetics forward, that was the true "avant-garde", or, as directly translated, "before the masses". It was not a "new trend", but truly something new and confusing.

Nowadays I hate using the term, it sounds pretentious and is used by so many people to describe "unconventional" clothing to any degree. It's so vague and it's become another word like "aesthetic", it just sounds shitty.

I just use the term unconventional, and for something to be "avant garde" for me it has 2

1. be all black!!!!11!!!!!
2. leather!!!!1!!!1!!
3. drapes and ripped shit!!1!!!!11!!
4. oversized hoods and drop crotch!!1!!!
5. 5edgy10me!!1!!!

my point is today it's become extremely vague so i don't spend time thinking about "what makes x avant garde" "is x designer avant garde or not" "what is true avant garde in this day and age"

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had a physio lab and kept knocking my jackets button into the table
all the buttons have fractured
i asked mah tailor boud it said could be fixed
she pulled the fuck out of them - like they were already on the verge of snapping but then she just fucking went at it
decided to leave it until they completely snap

bitch

>> No.7051648

>>7047786
its a pretty fuckn dumb pic

everyone would call you a fat retard if u put a faust quote under a pic of carol or a twerk quote under a pic of ann d, it doesnt make any sense, thats not how quotes work

>> No.7051653

>>7047134
oh my word ur a cheeky chap aint ya

>> No.7051654

>>7051644
i drank a 2 6 with some native dude and watched gravity shit was scary as fuuuuuck holy shit im never being an astronaut after this

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>>7051654
>chugging w/ natives
confirmed for friendless hick

reported

>> No.7051660

>>7051656
this is trunks mum his feelings are deeply hurt he just tried to OD on tylenol i just reported u to the cyberpolice for cyberbullying u greasy ass kiwi muslim motherfucker

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>>7051651
hey man i remember a while ago some guy posted a thread with a picture of some woman he spotted in a uniqlo wearing pic related then you posted a pic from that collection or something of people backstage or something wearing it can you post that again

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>>7051659
that was timber

fuck her tho, ill take that cred

oh its aready here
i didnt post it

>>7047169

>> No.7051671

>>7051660
also u have LARGE HIPS

#etherd

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>>7051660
>oding on tylenol
lmfao
might aswell try drain yourself on painkillers fat ass

>> No.7051674

>>7048349
Mfw I saw this irl B)

>> No.7051681

>>7051656
>confirmed for friendless hick
>reported
this is so asshole-y funny lol

>> No.7051685

>>7051656
>>7051660
>>7051671
>>7051675
why is this so funny

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oooo cuzin terio is at it again

>>7051674
was it exciting

>>7051631
r we friends now

>> No.7051696

>>7051675
umm why dont u blow up some more towers with ur fat ass butt, osama bin homeless-guy-with-child-bearing-hips

>> No.7051703

>>7051690
very xciting
no photos were allowed at the exhibition though :(

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>>7051696
with-child-bearing-hips

>> No.7051716

>>7047092
>artsy
filtered

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>>7051660
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cWvhz9TGkU&t=1m45s

ILL FUCKIN TOAST U CUN
ILL FUCKIN TOAST U
(Watch the whole vid)

>>7051690
i dont unfren dum ppl

>> No.7051728

>>7051715

lmaoo

blud i wouldve just smacked that pussyole then bolted

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>>7048823
>Rei asked if I was God, fuck I'm supposed to say no?
>You already seen me turn a Mifune to a G.O.A.T
>You already know what I could do with the wool
#Crown
#Yohji fabric crown
#GOAT
>>7051643
why? he's learning,you'd say the smae about void or twerk/turny if they posted before they amassed their knowledge

>> No.7051919

>>7051750
inside joke, we're all still stupid and poorly dressed

>> No.7051935

Avant-garde is unwearable anything else isn't "cutting edge"

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This graph is made to illustrate an ideological "avant-garde" but functions just as well as an illustration for fashion if divorced from ideology*

*insomuch as fashion can be divorced from ideology

>> No.7052463

>>7048476
neat.

>> No.7052502

>>7048441
the fountain was an important piece of art