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6938839 No.6938839[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

Are you fuccbois ready, you do have money don't you?

>> No.6938844

i want the ankle combat boots so bad :(

>> No.6938845

>>6938839
>A$AP Rocky

>> No.6938848

where is this sale

>> No.6938851

>>6938839
> tfw getting my mula on friday
fuuuuuck I want an unstable cotton T

>> No.6938852

>>6938848
ur mums room

>> No.6938865
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>>6938839
all of those pieces look like shit

>implying anyone posting in this thread can even pull any of those pieces off without looking completely ridiculous

>> No.6938885

>>6938865
lol i can clearly tell you don't have early access
those are 4 pieces out of the entire sale

jog on

>> No.6938926

>>6938885
could u please post a pic?

>> No.6938951
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>> No.6938957

Is this gilt? I work for their call centre, I get stuff for cost plus 20% apparently

never bought anything yet

>> No.6938964
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>>6938839
wtf are those boots made out of?

>> No.6938970

>>6938964
spastic cows

>> No.6938972

>>6938839

It's all stuff they've posted before.

>> No.6938973

>>6938964
Rare European black camels

>> No.6938976

>>6938957
yes, pls give code

>> No.6938979

>>6938839
That jacket in the lower left image could be god-tier with the right outfit.

And if you flattened it for a while to get rid of that round bulging shape leather jackets often take on.

And if it didn't have the flaps on the neck.

It also shouldn't really have a zipper either.

Actually fuck it.

>> No.6938987
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6938987

>edgy
>boundary-pushing
>designer-obsessed
>name-dropping

>> No.6938997

>>6938976
I dont have a code, I have to order stuff at work I think

I've only worked there since monday

>> No.6939003

>>6938979

It's just a tab collar. Almost any cafe racer jacket will have it.

>> No.6939004

>>6938957
>I work for their call centre, I get stuff for cost plus 20% apparently
what does this mean?

>> No.6939013
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>>6938987
What the hell, that is not the right .gif at all...

>> No.6939018

>>6938951

More previews, please.

>> No.6939040

who are the buyers, all the items posted thus far look stupid

>> No.6939042

>>6939004
if i want stuff off gilt, i pay what it costs them, plus twenty percent of that figure

I dont pay shipping either iirc

i dunno, ive only been there like a week, a bunch of my mates work for them as well

they've a huge call center in my town

>> No.6939043

>>6939018
>>6939040
ur rly thirsty for previews aren;t u
ur not getting any :)

>> No.6939049

>>6939040

Well, it's hard to have an impeccable buy when you're buying from leftovers.

>> No.6939051

>>6938839

Do we really need to compete with more fags trying to add the same item to their carts? sage

>> No.6939056

>>6939043
can you view the sizes on the ramones with your early access?

>> No.6939057

>>6939051

Why can't I sage?

>> No.6939061

>>6939042
>if i want stuff off gilt, i pay what it costs them, plus twenty percent of that figure
alright. i read it as you pay 20% more than the price, which seemed like a dumb deal.

>> No.6939062

>>6939056

37 - 40

>> No.6939068

>>6939061
lol yeh

i dont know if cost plus 20 is good or what, apparently it depends on the brand

some shit is like half price, some shit is basically the same

>> No.6939076

>>6939062
as in 37, 38, 39, 40? holy motherfuck... pls reserve me a size 39. or I'll just try and get it myself lel.

>> No.6939075
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6939075

does anyone have that "RICK OWENS KING OF EDGY:" quote with the black dude from the first gilt sale?

>> No.6939090

>>6939075
they sold a black guy in a gilt sale? wow that really is edgy

>> No.6939089

>>6939076
>pls reserve me a size 39
>size 39
for your girlfriend, right?

>> No.6939100
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6939100

Are you guys even a stylish dudes, to be wearing these edgy, boundary-pushing designs?

>> No.6939101

>>6939089
for me, I have small feet. don't really care if you want to make fun of me for it. just sucks trying to find any sort of designer sneaker at ALL in size 39.

>> No.6939106

>>6939090

I was just joking, but they'll probably have it in 39.

>> No.6939113

>>6939106
god dammit man, stop getting my hopes up. paying retail for all my sneakers suck.

>> No.6939122

>>6939101
39 is like the best size for getting sneakers on sale

>> No.6939128

>>6939106

wtf, app quoted the wrong post

>> No.6939132

>>6939122
it may seem like it, but it really isn't. at least in my experience. it's hard enough even finding a site that stocks 39.

>> No.6939135

is it be or does gilt seem like a complete scam. Like they make the original price higher than it actually is and cut it to the regular "sale" price to make it seem like they're saving money

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>> No.6939156

>>6939135
i dunno, but the people who order from there, from those I've dealt with, are some retarded obnoxious american motherfuckers

>> No.6939166

Pass,

F-5ing to get the bottom of the barrel for an 'ok' at best price. Nah.

>> No.6939323

>>6939132

39's are rarely issued in men's styles.

>> No.6939342

>>6939135
they might inflate some of the "regular retail" prices, but the discounts are still really really good (on the items that are discounted). they also seem to be carrying extra smalls more, which is nice

>> No.6939361

>>6939135
they can't lie about the prices of rick because the MSRP is almost always printed on the original tags, but it's possible that they lie about other items

>> No.6939400

>>6939361
just checked my giant rick tags stack.
like 1/4 has the price. it's not printed by the way, it's a sticker.
some retailers put a sticker on it (either just black, white or with their logo)

>> No.6939403

>>6939400

Rick never puts MSRPs on the hang tags themselves since different countries have different pricing given customs and whatnot.

>> No.6939419

>>6939061
he means that, eg. gilt pays $0.09 for rick which they then mark up to $300 he pays 0.09+(0.09*0.2)

some deals better than others

>> No.6939425

>>6939323
these are uni sex

>> No.6939432

>>6939403
yeah. alright. they're actually separate stickers.

>> No.6939477

Hnng, dat jacket on the lower left. Of course, I could probably buy an actual cafe racer for the price it'll be.

>> No.6939505

>>6939061
jesus christ. How can you not understand?

>> No.6939524 [DELETED] 

>>6938839
someone link to this or is everything sold out?

>> No.6939581

>>6939042
that's a crazy fucking discount

>> No.6939669

>>6939581

It's really not. Gilt still pays over what the wholesale cost is because they're buying excess stock, so all the suppliers still make money. If the wholesale for something is $10 and the retail is $25, Gilt will pay something like $15 or so for it.

>> No.6939706

When does this sale start?

>> No.6939704

>>6939669
it's still pretty decent as a consumer as it's a discount on a discount.
gilt isn't that good though, on high demand products they're like just ~30% off.

>> No.6939746

>>6938839
how to get early access preview for this sale?

>> No.6940597

>>6938957
You must be Irish.

Their stuff comes in from china. Their call center is in Ireland.

>> No.6940607

i have credit, does anyone want something?

i'll buy it then sell it to you at an agreed upon cash price

i made a few returns back when gilt had no cashback

and in 3-4 years gilt has nothing i really wanted besides a pug pillow.

i have $498.72 or some shit

>> No.6940621

>>6940607
50 of these

http://www.gilt.com/sale/men/novelty-cufflinks/product/1025468333-cufflinks-inc-yellow-off-road-vehicle-cufflinks

cheers

>> No.6940636

>>6940607
Email?

>> No.6940662

>>6940607
are there any tees/tanks in the sale?

>> No.6940827

What site is this sale actually taking place on?

>> No.6940835

>>6940827
tubgirl.ca

>> No.6940840

>>6940835

:^P

>> No.6940873
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6940873

>A$AP Rocky
Way to target your market of impressionable, poor fuccbois Gilt.
Most people here haven't seen the majority of Rick's runway collections and just want to buy his footwear and t-shirts. It's sad, Rick deserves a better fanbase than this.

>> No.6940886

>>6940873
haha listen to this faggot
>rick deserves a better fanbase than this

>implying the premium rick does not sell

>> No.6940888

>>6940873
I bet Rick cries when he thinks about the increase in sales because the wrong people are buying

>> No.6940903

>>6940886
It does, but mostly to middle-aged men.
It'd be nice to see him have the fanbase of someone like Yamamoto or Thom Browne, but that seems relatively unlikely at that point.
>>6940888
I'm pretty sure there's more to Rick than making money. Fashion might be a business, but he's hardly that mercenary and callous when it comes to people appreciating his designs.

>> No.6940904

>>6940873
yeah if only everyone could be a holier than thou shitposter from superfuture who thinks hes hot shit because he knows how to download and dump a runway show

>> No.6940905

>>6938865
you kidding? bottom left jacket is spacecore fire

>> No.6940912

>>6938848
gilt

>> No.6940914

>>6938839
Lol I hope you dont actually think the rick bs is for real. Nigga that shit is ironic. You actually think that shit is cool? LOL, it's just like scooby on fit. You ironically like something and then some retards think you're serious and that it's legit awesome. fucking hilarious

>> No.6940918

>>6940914
nice memeing bro B^)


trolled! xD

>> No.6940921

>>6940914
>implying scooby isn't fucking amazing

kill yourself pls

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>>6940904
>BasedProphet mad because both superfuture and /fa/ shit on him (justifiably) every time he posts.
You're like the perfect example of who I'm talking about, an easily impressionable and tasteless fuckwit. If I asked you to suck my dick, you'd do it if /fa/ told you it was cool.
Just fuck off.

>> No.6940928

>>6940904
at least he contributes something even if it is "dumping a runway show", youre just a total shitposter

>> No.6940937

>>6940920
if i told you to suck my nipples and call me mommy youd do it if it would get you sufu rep

>> No.6940946

>>6940873
>people like what I like
you sound like an angry hipster whose favorite obscure band became popular among the people you dislike

>> No.6940949

>>6940920
#rekt

>> No.6940959
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>>6940937
Man, nothing gets through to you. Maybe take a break from posting and actually try and learn about fashion beyond what's simply "cool".
>>6940946
I don't even like Rick Owens that much, I don't own anything from any of his lines.
But that's a good example really. It'd be like if everyone suddenly started raving about John Cage and his work started being talked about by everyone, but just because people liked "silence" or "Weird sounds", not appreciating any of the concepts behind Cage's work that are as important as the work themselves. That's almost what people are doing with Rick. Rick as a designer, is a lot more conceptual than a lot of designers I like, like Yosuke Aizawa or Daiki Suzuki, there is more to his work than just how "cool" the clothes are. But so many people seem to be buying Rick because it's the cool thing to do, because Pusha T and A$AP wear it. But does even Pusha T wear Rick Owens because he appreciates the clothes and the work and imagination that goes into them? I doubt it. It's just all sorts buying into the media frenzy that's accompanied Rick's work since around 2009.

If you're really interested in Rick, don't just buy a few basics and a pair of ramones that everyone else has passed on, get familiar with his work, his approach to clothing. Here's a list of his collections, most of the post-2005 or so collections are readily available online, and you can find much of the other material with some digging.

>> No.6940970

>>6940959
fuck off nomad at least i dont shitpost hard enough that i have to change my trip

>> No.6940976

>>6940920
i agree with your sentiment but rick doesnt deserve better.

>> No.6940977

>>6940959
>muh sekrit club
>everyone should have to be able to write a 20 page essay on his work and memorize his autobiography if they want to cop a pair of shorts

>> No.6940982

>>6940959
its only fashion, nerd.

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>>6940970
That's literally what happened.
You literally shitposted and got shat on so hard you changed from Based Prophet to Trunks.
Do you lack even a single iota of self-awareness? Of intelligence?
>>6940977
>People should have some interest in and knowledge of fashion if they spend a fair amount of money
>People should be intelligent and discerning consumers
>People should be informed about the work and ideas that go into the art, media and design they consume
Yes, these are completely unreasonable ideas.
Everyone should languish in active ignorance, just like you, be content with mediocrity, just like you.
You're more intent on "copping" and seeming cool, on establishing some kind of facade of knowledge, than looking critically at collections, at designers and at fashion as a whole and actually considering the nature of what you're purchasing. Stick to shopping at walmart and cutting up your mother's curtains if that's too difficult for you.
>>6940976
I disagree - even though he doesn't exactly create the sort of clothes I'd wear, I certainly appreciate his work and find him one of the most interesting designers today outside of Carol Christian Poell and Takahiro Miyashita.

>> No.6941011

>>6940914
scooby is a fucking sickunt who designs his own advanced racing eyewear. Talk shit post fit.

>> No.6941016

>>6941003
jesus christ man are you fucking dumb? trip was hacked along with a few other peoples. ive never pretended to be anyone else. stupid cunt
>You're more intent on establishing some kind of facade of knowledge
this could literally not be any more ironic

>> No.6941020

>>6941003
i agree with you JW, but you need to calm down dude, this is 4chan.

>> No.6941027

>>6941003
Whats up hifi?

>> No.6941032

>>6941020
i dont think he knows how tbh

niggas mad every time he posts. like an hateful little visvim wearing gnome

>> No.6941047

>>6941032
>niggas mad every time he posts
lol dis irony

>> No.6941051

>>6941047
i dont get mad at strangers on the internet

unless im playing counterstrike

>> No.6941058

>>6941003


lmaoo

dressed in visvim rags talkin bout fashion

where do these herbs come from

>> No.6941062

>>6941058
sufu

>> No.6941063

>>6940959
authenticity is fucking trite

>> No.6941064

>>6940959
lol yeah it sure sucks when people buy clothes that they think look nice rather than buying them for the "concept" behind it. because what you wear is all about expressing a concept that someone else had right?

>> No.6941068

>>6941003
>>6940959
>>6940920
>>6940903
>>6940873
you sound really fucking pretentious and irritable here

>> No.6941070

>>6941068
He is.

>> No.6941072

>>6941064
niggas just mad that someone can cop a rick fit w/ no research and look better than his fat ass thats spent a month in his basement reading about shit

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>>6941032
>calling other people gnomes

>hair literally looks like pic related

>> No.6941081

>>6941063
>>6940959

creds 2 twerk

authenticity begins and ends at wearing what appeals to you; extrapolating further is just trying to establish your authenticity by insisting that other people do not have it, so that you can pretend that the clothing, which you had no part in designing or making, has a higher barrier of entry than having the money to spend on it and the body to fit in it.

it's the fuccest of boi responses to justin bieber wearing your favorite designer.

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>>6940903
>It'd be nice to see him have the fanbase of someone...Thom Browne
bahahahaha

pic related you stupid mong

>> No.6941086

>>6941080
imo based's hy looked p good

>> No.6941088

>>6941080


woooooooowooooowhoooaoaaoao siiiiiiiick buuuuuuurn brooooooooooooooooooooo
whoooooooooooooooooooooooa

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>>6941080
suck my dragon balls bitch call me trunks

>> No.6941093

>>6941072
more like he's mad because he can't pull off any of the "trends" he jumps on and ends up looking ridiculous all of the time. he never fucking learns what fashion is about and he prob never will.

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>>6941081
got damn

>> No.6941105

I like the boots a lot. I will probably buy whatever knock-off pair comes out from a shitty company. The pants are also interesting to me. The other two pieces just look like woman's wear I could go and get from the nearest Forever 21, really not understanding the feminine tapers and sizes.

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>>6941090

>> No.6941118
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>>6941081
I see where twerk is coming from, but I don't necessarily agree with what he's saying. Essentially, he's just reducing clothes to aesthetic appeal, which to me seems far too basic. If you see "having the money to spend on it and the body to fit in it" as the only prerequisites to actually appreciating a designer's work, that's completely disregarding any kind of appreciation of the designer's concepts. Clothing might not be art, but can be as much self-expression as painting or music. Taking clothes at surface value disregards any sort of emotional or conceptual investment the designer has made into the work, and avoids the issue of understanding and any kind of critical approach for a mind-numbing acceptance and perhaps appreciation. Why curtail the emotional or intellectual response we can get from a collection?
I don't think it's a matter of "authenticity" in wearing clothes, I think it's a matter of understanding. You might say the only prerequisite for reading a certain book is being literate and having the money to buy said book, but without looking at it critically and having some prior knowledge about anything, any sort of allusion, subtext or intrinsic meaning will just fly by you, all you'll have to appreciate is the prose.
I don't see why you'd be content with an ignorant viewpoint when you have so many resources available to you to learn more about designers and their work that will lead to a higher understanding, and at least personally to me, a higher level of appreciation.
>>6941085
Thom Browne manages seamless appeal to pretty much everyone from young asian teenagers to older western men just due to the strength of his vision and execution. It'd be great to see Rick have fans like that.

>> No.6941119

>rick deserves better that A$AP rocky tier people
>he deserves shitty 4chan fuccboi tier
lol atleast A$Ap and the like pull of shit and generally know how to put together a fit. half of you buy Geo's and don't know what the fuck to do after
stop being so precious about Rick holy fuck

>> No.6941124

>>6941118
Those young asian teenagers look like shit though.

>> No.6941125

>>6941118
rick manages seamless appeal to pretty much everyone from rappers to middle aged asian women

but oh no god fucking forbid DIRTY CELEBRITIES wear muh secret undercover clothing

>> No.6941141

>>6941119

CTFU

log off

rocky's fits are all hit and miss

i think ur avg walmart tee levis wearing ass motherfucker looks better in geobaskets than him

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>>6941118
>It'd be great to see Rick have fans like that.
it's called sample bias, and you're seriously guilty of it right now

the TB fanbase is absolutely overflowing with impressionable spring chickens like the ones i posted

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>>6941119
>lol atleast A$Ap and the like pull of shit
no, they don't lol

try again

>>6941141
please post one such "hit" because i've yet to see any

>> No.6941154

>>6941118
>Essentially, he's just reducing clothes to aesthetic appeal, which to me seems far too basic
That's what it is, unless we're talking practicality. Of course you as a designer can have a concept that goes beyond that but the concept itself is not necessary to enjoy the clothes. Basically what you're saying is that without understanding the creators point of view you are unable to "fully" enjoy something. Does this mean that one is not able to enjoy music in other languages? I know that you think that, because you've said it, but that doesn't make it true.

You can enjoy a good cup of coffee without knowing how the fuck it was made, and you can enjoy art without knowing the concept, because art isn't necessarily about what the artist think, what you see in a painting is a reflection of your own thoughts and experiences. The artist does not have more authority over the opinions of a piece than anyone else.

>> No.6941159

>>6941141
yea his fits are hit and miss but when they work it works and he isn't just completely dickriding other trends
compare him to an /fa/ user and he's a lot better.
and does CTFU mean calm the fuck down?

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>>6941125
Thom Browne, as I said, "the strength of his vision and execution", rather than how "cool" and "trendy" his clothing has been in recent years, as sadly is Rick's case, despite the immense intellectual and emotional investment Rick puts into his clothes.
The only real opposite case I can about TB is Pusha wearing TB in one photoshoot, but that's about him, and that's his stylist's decision moreso than his.
>>6941145
Ok, perhaps I've been somewhat simplistic, I'm sorry for over-generalizing, but on the whole, I still maintain that Rick's fanbase is more guilt of it than Thom's.
>>6941154
Response to this forthcoming, very interest points raised.

Look trunks, you do seem at least somewhat passionate about fashion, if you want a dialectical exchange, I'm always more interested in a conversation that shit-flinging. If you're interested in something I said, either ask more, or feel free to challenge me if you have legitimate reasoning behind it.
I know this is 4chan and all, but that doesn't mean we can't have thoughtful responses and actual conversations about designers and their work

>> No.6941189

>>6941159

um yes he is

a$ap crews whole image is trend dickriding

no ctfu means crack the fuck up LOL

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>>6941165
"I crush down with that top down, bossy see how I ride 'round
Mami in that Tom Ford, Papi in that Thom Browne"

-a$ap rocky

>muh thommy

gonna have a cry m8?

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>>6941165
>"the strength of his vision and execution", rather than how "cool" and "trendy" his clothing has been in recent years

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>>6941154
I do accept you could maintain that "clothes are just clothes", but that's an extremely reductionist approach to quite a complex question. Fashion does not exist in a vaccuum, the designers concepts, influences and emotions often play a pivotal role in fashion, and yes, I maintain that by ignoring that and simply focusing on the aesthetic appeal, you are getting an incomplete understanding and appreciation of the clothing.
I'll go to your first example. I never said that you can't enjoy music from other languages, though I have said, and maintain, that you get a lower level of understanding and hence enjoyment than you would if you understood the lyrics. To give an example, though you could easily enjoy the melodies in Jacques Brel's music and the immense amount of passion in his singing, I think I do gain a better appreciation of his music from understanding what he's singing about than I would if I didn't speak a lick of french. I do listen to a lot of different styles of ethnic folk that I do not understand the lyrics of, and though I do enjoy it simply on a musical level, in terms of melody and such, I feel like I would enjoy it more if I understood the lyrics. Now, similar to that, I feel like if you didn't understand the concepts behind the work of a musician like John Cage, from a piece like "4'33", to all his indeterminacy pieces, you wouldn't enjoy it as much, simply because the concept is as much a part of the music as any notes played (or not played as it were).
I'll ignore the coffee allegory, because there is really no input into the coffee that isn't physical. The climate has an effect, the amount of time before harvesting has an effect, but there's no real emotional or intellectual investment in coffee that makes it taste better or worse.

1/2

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>>6941208
>"the strength of his vision and execution", rather than how "cool" and "trendy" his clothing has been in recent years

>> No.6941218

>>6941195
if ur not drunk ur such a nerd and i probs would have bullied u in HS

if ur drunk then w/e ppl can let go

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>>6941213
>"the strength of his vision and execution", rather than how "cool" and "trendy" his clothing has been in recent years

>> No.6941227

>>6941189
oh my bad.
i searched it up but didnt think it fitted the context.
but still i disagree with you. not saying A$AP is completelyu unique but I like his melding of streetwear and high fashion and I think he pulls it off very well sometimes (key word: sometimes) whereas most of the the people having a cry that he name dropped designers probably only found Rick through this board

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>>6941209
2/2

I agree that art, and design, isn't necessarily about the creator's desire to translate a concept or an emotion or anything else, it might just be to create something pleasing. I mean, some of my personal favorite designers, namely Daiki Suzuki, Hiroki Nakamura and Yosuke Aizawa, are creating clothing for clothing's sake, and almost all the references they draw are contemporary clothing (from the last 100~150 years or so).
But for a fair amount of designers, designers like Rick, have a far wider range of influences and concepts behind there work - I find everything you can learn helps foster a greater understanding of Rick's work, from his architectural, artistic and historical influences, to his personal philosophy of clothing, and practically everything else.
I know you can enjoy clothing taken independently as clothing, but considering there is more to making clothes than simply cutting patterns and sewing fabrics, I think it's in anyone's own best interest to learn more about what they're consuming and taking somewhat of a critical approach to these things, and yes, I think a greater understanding fosters a greater level of enjoyment. You have all these resources to learn about designers and their work and their influences, everything from books to magazines to the internet, why purposely limit yourself and be actively ignorant when you have the chance to learn more at your fingertips?

>> No.6941235

>all these nerds talking that dumb shit
omg shut up lol

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>>6941220
>"the strength of his vision and execution", rather than how "cool" and "trendy" his clothing has been in recent years

>> No.6941237

>>6941165
I agree to some extent with what you say about people with more insight in to a brand or piece garnering more enjoyment from it.

But on the whole fashion is about aesthetics and clothing the body. Wearing Rick is accessible to anybody who has money and likes the look of a long tee shirt.

>> No.6941242

>>6941209
s/o to anyone actually reading these pretentious microessays

that thirst for e-respect when yo clown ass stays looking like a chinese pedestrian got damn

>> No.6941243

>>6941238
>>6941220
>>6941213
>what is a stylist

>> No.6941244

>>6941235
get off my forum
why are you here

>> No.6941252

>>6941209
Fucking lol. Saying clothing is art is fucking retarded. Art has no purpose but itself. A tool can be aesthetic and invoke emotion but it's still a tool. Craftsman vs artist, there's a difference. Plus clothing is like the worst emotional medium I can think of.

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>>6941242
shoutouts to my dick

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>>6941233

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>>6941238
>"the strength of his vision and execution", rather than how "cool" and "trendy" his clothing has been in recent years

>> No.6941260

>>6941243

if you think that pusha t and asap rocky's stylists didnt put them in rick owens you might be just a tiny bit naive

>> No.6941265

>>6941255
NICE
EPIC
I LIKE IT

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>>6941238
>"the strength of his vision and execution", rather than how "cool" and "trendy" his clothing has been in recent

>>6941243
i don't see how this spares the label from "cool" and "trendy"

>> No.6941270

>>6941252
>no purpose but itself

>entertainment?

>> No.6941271

>>6941255
thread status: OFF DA RAILZ

>> No.6941284

>>6941237
Yeah, I never argued against that, you can like clothing because it looks good, the same way you can appreciate a song for having a nice melody without understanding the piece as a whole, I'm just reiterating this sentiment
>I know you can enjoy clothing taken independently as clothing, but considering there is more to making clothes than simply cutting patterns and sewing fabrics, I think it's in anyone's own best interest to learn more about what they're consuming and taking somewhat of a critical approach to these things, and yes, I think a greater understanding fosters a greater level of enjoyment
>>6941252
I created the distinction between design and art, I'm well aware that anything utilitarian cannot be art, but that doesn't mean it can't be a method of expression, and it is.
>>6941260
I talked about Pusha T's stylist earlier and Rocky constantly says he doesn't have a stylist.
>>6941267
It might mean the label is cool and trendy, but it doesn't mean the label's appeal to its consumers is in its coolness and trendiness, that's why I draw the distinction

>> No.6941282

>>6941209
At the end of the day the most important thing for an artist operating from a platform like fashion design is a window of opportunity that's maybe 2-3 seconds wide.
Within that window, the beholder has to think "Oh, wow, that looks great" without a second thought. If this occurs, then the design is, at the very least, successful. Mission accomplished, it looks fresh, we can all go home now. Laugh all you want, I say this as an artist and I've heard variations on it time and again from people entrenched in their respective crafts.
It's great to get educated on theory and it will certainly enrich your appreciation of it in other dimensions you might not have thought possible, but as soon as you start pretending that all that extraneous theory is somehow essential to a proper experience of a work you get into really elitist, exclusionary territory that arguably redraws all the lines and boundaries good design excels at transcending.
The joy of a great song or a beautiful work of art is how easily we can share that beauty with one another and bask in its shared experience as human beings. Even without a $500,000 liberal arts degree, the Sistine Chapel is still beautiful and Hemingway is still hauntingly sad.

>> No.6941286

>>6941209
>>6941233
>but that's an extremely reductionist approach to quite a complex question
It's not. Clothes are clothes. You might view it as more because you have an interest in it, but that doesn't make you superior to a person that does not feel that way. The reason not everyone will research designers and fashion history is because they don't care about that, they simply want to wear clothes that they think look nice, or wear clothes that will give them an image that they desire. You are so utterly pretentious that I sometimes even doubt if you are able to enjoy anything without telling everyone how well-read and superior you are.

I think "feeling" art and design is the greatest level of enjoying it, when you get that feeling of fuck yeah this is good shit, that's enjoying something and it doesn't require any sort of knowledge on the subject.

>there's no real emotional or intellectual investment in coffee
lol

>> No.6941290

>>6941284
All you are saying is subjective and you are trying to force people to your views. The fact that you can try your hardest and still fail to change others mind must keep you up at night.

>> No.6941302

>>6941284

>Rocky constantly says he doesn't have a stylist

OH well if he says so!!!

lol

>> No.6941297

>>6941284
so when a rapper wears a designer you like "the label is cool and trendy", but when a rapper wears a designer you dont like, "the label's appeal to its consumers is in its coolness and trendiness"

nice

>> No.6941305

>>6941284
get on skype friendo

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>>6941284
>but it doesn't mean the label's appeal to its consumers is in its coolness and trendiness
would anyone like to help me locate my sides?

i guess we just have very different interpretations of the way these communities operate

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>>6941316
with that said, thom does have many pieces and even entire ensembles that i can appreciate, but i just don't think the good part of his consumers appreciate his work for reasons that are as innocent

>> No.6941336

>>6938839
Oh good, now I can look like a gay Jedi for less. Wonderful.

>> No.6941343

>>6940920
Nomad you really got to force Switzerland or else you will be used up and washed out here

>> No.6941344

>>6941336
if u wanted to look like a jedi u should have waited for a damir doma sale

rick is all sith baby

>> No.6941355

>>6941302
>a tard on the internet say's he does
nice statement you nig nog

>> No.6941357

>>6941336
>>6941344
>tfw I want to look like a peasent worker from star wars
Who makes torn up workwear? Junya?

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>>6941284
>but considering there is more to making clothes than simply cutting patterns and sewing fabrics

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>>6941358
>look it up

>> No.6941368

>>6941357
Nicholas K doesn't do that but it could be similar

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>>6941363
mods are fucking with you
>look it up

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>>6941372
>>>6941358

>> No.6941383

>>6941372
did user really make that???

is this a joke?
do people really buy this crap from him?

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>>6941383
um it's fashion look-it-up

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>>6941316
That's the thing! That's what bothers me, they don't even operate that differently, in fact I would say Rick is the better and more accomplished designer, but it just so happens he's attracted a worse fanbase. That's what I'm saying in >>6940903
>>6941282
This is actually a really interesting point here. Obviously, you can't let concept overshadow the actual execution of the design, but I think it's certainly what can distinguish something average and something great.
For example, someone might look at Yohji Yamamoto's work and just dismiss it as ill-fitting and poorly made, but Yamamoto's concepts, on beauty, on protection and comfort, on the idea of age, on the idea about modesty, on resisting the idea of trend and the perhaps superficial nature of fashion, all are extremely pervasive and influence every part of his work. I think someone evaluating Yamamoto's work from an informed perspective will be much more likely to find appreciation of his work than to write it off as "oversized goofninja shit".
I'm not saying you can't appreciate clothing on simply an aesthetic level, and I'm not denying the importance of the aesthetic appeal of Rick's clothes, it seems people are really exaggerating this point, I'm just saying there are different levels of appreciation and I don't see why you'd simply limit yourself to one level of enjoyment when you can further your enjoyment for free, through the internet.
>>6941357
Takahiro Miyashita The Soloist is what you want, perhaps look at wear from Kapital, but that's perhaps a little more railroad oriented, though they'd have some stuff up your alley.
>>6941286
But the point is that you can gain more out of the experience. I'm not saying you have to divorce an emotional and an intellectual response to clothing, there's no need to be black and white, what I'm saying is best is when you combine the two: the understanding fosters a greater enjoyment.
>>6941343
I don't know what you mean, care to elaborate?

>> No.6941410

>>6941389

Reading these is painful. I gotta get some sleep.

>> No.6941419

>>6941385
the geo's look so forced holy fuck

>> No.6941426

>tfw I am owed nearly $1000 from people that I wouldn't have to spend on anything in particular
>tfw by the time I get that cash this shit is going to be sold out

>> No.6941453

>>6941389
You're so pretentious that it's insufferable. I've found a trip I dislike more then basedprophet.

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>>6941453
>more than
we are talking about basedprophet now. basedprophet. bit of a stretch there, miles to catch up to

>> No.6941475

>>6941453
If you disagree with me, feel free to say why, I'm up for discussion, otherwise I wouldn't be posting.
And yeah, sorry I'm just really inarticulate and stuff, I have a bit of trouble wording more difficult concepts, sorry if I come off as pretentious or anything.

>> No.6941497

>>6941472
I just farted right before I looked at this picture. The smell synced up nicely with what I was looking at. Neat experience, kind of what I imagine smellovision would be like.

>> No.6941503

>>6941472
it never gets old :^)

>> No.6941518

>>6941475
That's Switzerland! Keep it coming and you'll be a spectacular applied user, surely an original and essential facet to modern fa. a charming woo-sayer

>> No.6941531

>>6941518
Oh, so you mean neutral (Switzerland) and reserved?
To be honest, I do try and just be helpful and entertain dialogue, because that's all I really want to do, it just seems that this thread got particularly ugly, perhaps in due part to my wording but it also seemed that people were completely misinterpreting or misrepresenting what I said.
Anyway, if at least one person delved deeper into Rick's work and his influences, I'm more than happy.
I think the thread's kind of died at this point, I'm going to start a Kapital thread.

>> No.6941538

>>6941531
>To be honest, I do try and just be helpful and entertain dialogue, because that's all I really want to do

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

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>>6941538

>> No.6941547

Why would you buy the shit no one wants just cause its on sale

>> No.6941555

>>6941538
Im pretty sure that faggot is Nomad

Also he's underage

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>>6941546
fuck off man

>> No.6941558

>>6941555
yeah it is

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>>6940904
wow man keep it real

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>>6940920
someone get the backing track to this cat fight going

>> No.6941606

Anything left?

>> No.6941607

>>6941531
Hey man I've enjoyed your posts in this thread and I think you've been successful in creating interesting dialogue. As I've been reading alot about and gaining a better appreciation for certain designers, I think I've slipped into somewhat of an awkward transitional phase balancing between elitism / hypocrisy and regret / frustration that such great works aren't being appreciated the way i think they should be

you and the other non-shitposters all contributed interesting points that i've been thinking about alot recently and it's a breath of fresh air from my constant self-doubt and questioning.

so yeah, thanks man enjoy your posts. just ignore the ignorant shitposters who think their opinion is important just because they know how to trip and assume a (rather shitty) identity on 4chan.

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>>6941472

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>>6941497