/fa/ - Fashion

tfw average 7/10 but social anxiety

tfw work in socially active job and must engage people constantly

tfw they think you're some sort of wise guru for not talking much, but listening, and responding accordingly.

try to force yourself into situations where you are around lots of people...it gets easier to talk the more you practice like anything else

>>6893237

Maybe not around LOTS of people to start out but it's a good concept. Like starting with confidence with girls it helps to talk to people you don't know or care much about and move up from there. The concept is the same, that the more you do it the easier small talk and conversation in general will become.

>>6893237
thanks man, i've been working on it but since i returned to school it's became apparent I haven't progressed as much as i thought.

>>6893279

i know the feel, social anxiety is a fucking pain in the ass. i get this feeling people around me have this fake idea of who i am and i wanna show them what kinda person i actually am but i guess im subconsciously afraid they're gonna reject it or something
the worst is when im talking to someone and say something that id never fucking say in a million years like online

>>6893253

not even about girls or guys imo, if you just go get drinks with a group of friends a few times a week, regardless of their gender, it just becomes easier to hold interesting conversation. also i feel like the more life experiences i have the easier it is to carry conversations and discuss things other people are interested in, idk if its the same for everyone else.

>2013
>not just taking klonopin (AKA alphaness in a pressed pill form)

>>6893305
>the more life experiences i have the easier it is to carry conversations
Absolutely. +1000.

Also, a good tactic when you're learning is to remember that every time someone speaks to you, they're giving you a laundry list of conversational topics with which to form questions and establish deeper rapport. Keep your subject talking and mine their sentences for plausible conversational branches.

>>6893322

I really don't want to be the guy to always shit on benzo, but be careful when dealing with that shit.

>>6893228
>>6893233

know that feel

luckily I scored in the looks and testosterone department (tall, built, deep voice) so people naturally tend to respect me and what I am trying to get across on the rare occasion that I actually do talk. My introversion is usually seen as calm confidence like I don't have to point out my alphaness by how loud I am.

It's kinda funny how really confident guys sometimes seem intimidated by me, If only they knew how fucking beta I actually am.

>>6893322
You'll be a social cripple when Klonny is done with your GABA receptors. You have to learn this shit for real. You can't put a chemical bandaid on it without seriously fucking yourself over in the long run.

>>6893305
I have no anxiety at all around my actual friends, just around people i don't know well or strangers.

>>6893237
Were you an autist before becoming cool User?

>>6893342
wish i was built

>>6893371
wish i was tall

>>6893342
sorta know this feel, except acne.
I feel like everybody's just afraid of me nowadays
I only weigh 160 tho

>>6893365

ill always be an autist

>>6893290
know this feel, like you have a mask on all the time

>>6893228

>in work
>minding my own business
>bitch no one likes comes into the room
>fucks about for a bit
>says "you dont say very much"

she has never tried to talk to me, never hear her saying anything, but she says i dont talk much

i dont get this shit

To anyone with anxiety, I used to have crippling awful fucking anxiety in highschool, due to acne, but it truly does help to put yourself into social situations over and over. you do get better. I'm to the point where I only want to try benzo so that I can be super confident and take advantage of women/ get ahead in life, but not if it's going to screw my head up.
My only other problem now is my confidence can be crushed a little too easily if something goes wrong, it takes a few minutes to get back into the groove of things. It's like you never really become confident, you're always putting on a show. you can get lost in it, you can believe your own lie, but it's a front that can come crashing down in the right condition.

>>6893349
I was going to ask my doctor for benzo soon
should I just avoid it completely?

>>6893416
fuk that girl that always calls you out in class "Why're you so quiet?!"

yet she doesnt say it to any of the nerds that are quiet.

>>6893420
>should I just avoid it completely?
Avoid it until you're older, like late 20's or later (if you MUST) It's such an awful thing to start early and it really does change your brain chemistry forever.
It's so insidious in that it will physically addict you without you even knowing, unless you're so very careful with it. It's hard to be careful with the stuff because the psychotropic profile can be very subtle and the drug's 'honeymoon period' is a glorious time indeed.

>>6893290
I'm like this but I'm actually extremely talkative and extroverted once someone else initiates conversation or whatever with me, or gets to know me

not sure how that works

>>6893435
the people that usually say this shit are cunts anyway, just because they dont know how to talk to you so they think they are taking the high ground by pointing out that you dont talk to them

fuck these cunts

this is pretty much the culture here though, if you dont talk to people then they just assume you are an angry depressed cunt and they will stay away from you, no one will ever just approach you and try to start a conversation

shit sucks

>>6893464
this is me too, im know as the quiet guy, well i was anyway, im not too bad anymore

although being told im quiet, once people start talking to me i can talk all day and have been told before i talk too much

its just the whole approach thing, i dont know how to approach people and start conversations, although no one ever approaches me either, whats the deal?

I'm learning jazz guitar at the moment. Social interaction is kind of like jazz guitar. You have to learn all these little runs and chords. At the beginning you think your playing is kind of repetitious, but after a while you learned to alternate those patterns in a way that it sounds original. The only thing you have to do is listen to jazz a lot and exercise. There just are like 5 questions you can ask over and over to keep a conversation going. The first time I noticed that was when I was talking to my hair dresser. We always talk a lot, but one time I noticed she is actually asking the same shit over and over again. It's perfect if you don't want to talk about yourself so much.

>>6893228
Your post feels the way I feel.
I can't even..
You're not alone anon

My half canadian half british accent makes me sound uninterested and boring and sad most of the time, Even when i try not to sound like those things it doesn't sound any better.
Atleast i have a deep voice though

>>6893456

Yeah, this all the way. If you drink too much, you'll feel it, regardless of wether you choose to continue drinking, same with smoking weed or most other drugs. With benzo you can keep popping pills for days and you won't feel fucked up, but you'll be a completely different person. Everything is fantastic until you stop, then it's hell and most likely you'll have even worse anxiety than you did before you started.

if you do like drinking, do keep in mind that you'll have to drink three times as much to feel half as drunk, you'll have both long and short-term memory issues for years to come and you'll feel downright stupid after quitting. Shit is like having your thoughts locked away just slightly out of reach.

>>6893534
;_;

fuk i need a therapist

>>6893499
what are those questions tho

>>6893592
>tfw slowly becoming an alcoholic
it's 11:30 AM and i've had 2 beers today
*sigh*

>>6893742
Quit while you're ahead, man. Alcoholism is a circle of hell that you don't want to visit.

>>6893480
>although no one ever approaches me either, whats the deal?
I had the exact same problem, yet I'm "the quiet one" where every conversation was something I initiated.

I guess I just give out an aura that says I don't want to talk to you.

>>6893775
I can't say this enough. My dad is an alcoholic and it's truly changed him. He's had some shit in his life, but taking a depressant all the time really fucks you up.
I feel like he hates his personality so much he wants to keep the mask of alcohol on at all times; but then he's never truly himself. You never know if he's willingly acting the way he is, and then he doesn't know either, and then he can't remember.
Then comes the issue of tolerance and spending all your fucking cash on shitty wine and a 24 pack every other day.

Don't touch that shit man, if not for you then for the sake of those you know. Everything gets better if you pull through.

>>6893884
It's so easy to go through life thinking alcohol is a consequence free drug - it's on TV, radio, just about every street corner. It's the foundation of many people's social lives. It's THE go-to drug.
It's all around you, constantly offered to you and one tends to think of it harmless. A drink here, a drink there.
And then one day you wake up shaky and scared, and you're not sure how you know it, but you know a drink is the only thing for it. Ugh.

>>6893775
>>6893884
>>6894069
Thanks guys, all that means a lot. Even in my currently inebriated condition.
I don't know what else to do. My life is too shit to be sober 100% of the time. I'm tired of being in love with somebody that doesn't even think about me anymore. My dad killed himself last year, uncles been dead for 3 years and my grandfater is in chemo.
/fa/ told me to stop smoking weed, and I did. I refuse to take pills.
What now
I don't want to whine and complain, but shit.
I'ts only getting harder

>>6894093
Fashionability aside, weed is a LOT better for you than boozing. I've seen stoners and even junkies drop the dry goods, go on the sauce and hit rock bottom in a year or less after eons of simply maintaining with the other stuff.

I want to give you some encouragement, but anything I say will only be words. Just hold on, and remember - if you're gonna use drugs to cope, I strongly believe that pot is your only safe option.
Keep fighting, soldier, you'll make it through if you don't fall into this trap.

>>6894093
Use pot as a carrot on a stick. Only smoke when you accomplish things of value, it is a way better high and a good motivator.

>tfw moved to a new school to retake a-levels (i'm 18 B) )
>tfw everyone already knows each other, has social circles
>tfw nobody even wants to talk to you because you're so noticeably different (lower class school, where everyone bitches about inconsequential shit)
>tfw stayed up all night reading articles on how to break into social situations
>tfw they were all talking about their yearbook

>tfw saying fuck it and going to the library

>tfw the library was empty

>tfw reading being and nothingness in an empty room with no friends

h-help?

how do I make friends when no one wants to?

how

>>6894165
Thank you, i'll keep that in mind.
>>6894172
I feel like that's a really good option, cutting back on one thing is better than picking something new up i guess

>>6894242

>lower class school, where everyone bitches about inconsequential shit

Sounds like you are the one who doesn't want to make friends. Get off your fucking high horse and socialize. You probably aren't as smart as you think you are anyways.

>>6894263

Knew I'd get flack for that. I just mean that I don't know what to say to people when they're all talking about people I don't know/care about.

Like, I was trying to tell someone about the concept of The Unbearable Lightness of Being and they absolutely didn't give a fuck. I feel like nobody is interested in what interests me, and it sucks.

>>6893228
>tfw hate everyone around me and don't talk to anyone

>>6894286
say "wow what a bitch" when they're chatting shit about someone then when they look at you like you're a cunt laugh and walk away.

>>6894310

gr8 adv B)))))

>>6894286
>Like, I was trying to tell someone about the concept of The Unbearable Lightness of Being and they absolutely didn't give a fuck. I feel like nobody is interested in what interests me, and it sucks.
welcome to every highschool ever
anyway you'll be fine, just keep doing and you'll meet people eventually
hardly any time for socialising when you're doin a-levels anyway

>>6894286

if that's first thing you try to discuss with someone you don't really know, you're going to come off as a sperg. there's bound to be at least someone sharing your interests, but if you can't be arsed to talk about mundane, normal things with people, don't expect them to give a shit about what you want to talk about.

build a relationship with someone before going deeper, man

>>6893228
>not knowing the pain of being ugly
Sorry bro, I don't feel you.

>>6894323

I guess. At my old school I had a clique that was always down to chat about wack stuff.

>>6894327

What are mundane, normal things though?

>>6893456
does infrequent use i.e. 2-4 a month change brain chemistry if ur 20

>>6894327
In secondary school, I was one of the funniest people. To get my jokes you would have to know me pretty well to see what i'm like else you'd think im a retard. I started a new school last year and i basically couldn't act myself untill i knew everyone cause i didn't want to come across as a weird piece of shit. What i'm trying to say is act like everyone else and try to be normal and once they know you're alright then be who you are.

>>6894352
Qouted the wrong post cause i'm dumb >>6894286

>>6894286
You just need to learn some empathy to put yourself into other shoes. Like i could talk politics and philosophy with my best friends all day, and giving in depth reviews of movies and the themes they encompass. Sadly you can't work these things in random chit-chat with "new" people. So just let them dictate the conversation and pick up on that. Sometimes it doesn't matter though because you are just from different worlds, i had a acquaintance from school, and i liked him but all he talked about was sailing or other "rich" people stuff.

>>6894334
>What are mundane, normal things though?
since you're at school you know you have school shit in common; lessons, teachers, homework, assignments. then as you talk more you'll probably realise you have mutual interests. talk about stuff you both know about rather trying to shove something you like down their throat

>>6894341
No.

>>6894367

I do that, but the conversation just dies off... maybe I'm just really bad at this.

>>6894352

OK... I guess...

>>6894357

OK. I'll try being more normal. Wish me luck?

>tfw ugly
>tfw not /fa/
>tfw no social skills

>>6894400
>OK. I'll try being more normal. Wish me luck?
Fuck that shit, you don't need it. Most people aren't even wort knowing, it's just that if you never try you find the people that are really worth it.

>>6894402
>tfw very good looking
>tfw /fa/
>tfw I make it rain

>>6894436

I guess I'll try and meet the few, then.

>Get ready to go to the gym tonight
>Take a glimpse at the calendar by chance
>It's already friday

>tfw you sweat a lot and it's 100F outside

>tfw trying to be more outgoing but acne kills self confidence

>>6894473
>get home from work last month
>take a glimpse at the calender
>it's my birthday

But it's okay, I received some automated birthday card the next few days.

>>6894536
I will always and forever know this feel

People are way overrated.

They don't listen so they don't learn anything, yet always have something to say which is normally subconsciously diffused from the shit propaganda they absorbed from mass media.

Worse yet, the masses JUDGE based on ignorance rather than knowledge. Anything that falls outside of cattle migrations is regarded as "weird" and never considered.

If somehow you get through their melon skulls and impress them with your excellent style or witty humor, they turn around and shamelessly imitate you.

If you have a genuine message that is intended to help them in some way or open their eyes, they'll reject it automatically based on what they do not know, plus they'll never do any of the research that it takes to be educated enough to have formed that opinion or view. In one ear and out the other, and you are the bad guy for making them "feel" bad, dumb, or off guard.

Any "debate" with them consists of rationalizing their ignorance in an attempt to formulate "theories" to win the argument, the ignorance being the problem to begin with, or more likely ad-hominem attacks and similar diversions from the real issue.

When you see someone who appears different and seems to have unique perspective, a bit of talking will usually reveal the TV show they are currently obsessed with. It is a mask and not really the person you are speaking with.

If you are in need of help, you may have one come to your aid to quell their own internal guilt complex or need to emulate drama from some TV show.

People talk about some coming zombie apocalypse but it is very much already here.

>>6894687
If you do your very best and strive to excel in spite of all those awful things you just mentioned, you WILL attract a different breed of person into your sphere. Just stay the course and improve for yourself. In time, you watch your circle begin to improve as well. The best part is how effortlessly that happens.

>>6894702
I hope you are right, thanks brah

>>6894708
Mos' def. For the record, I think George Romero's said multiple times that his movies were all metaphors for the wide-spread state of mind your talking about. So, you're not alone in thinking like this.

>>6894687

I want to be yoru friend

>>6894768
he's so much better than you though

>>6894687
I can't find anything to disagree with even though my very human nature wants to find something.

I will say that some people are worse than others; just because they're all ignorant and shallow doesn't mean they're not immensely useful; and because you're also human, you too need to feel loved, however selfish it is.

Come to terms with the fact you're guilty of the same things you mentioned and find some people to have mutually beneficial realationships with.

>>6894778

=( I wasnt being sarcastic, i just made a mistake writing

>>6894809
This, today a young girl got out of an overfull buss to give her place to an old woman waiting for the bus. And it just showed me that some people are just super nice, and i respect them for that.

>>6893480
>>6893464

fuck we are all the same right, extroversion despite a perceived "hey you're a quiet guy lol"

that's interesting, anyone know anything?

>>6894918
Well anon would say that was her "internal guilt complex or need to emulate drama from some TV show".

My point is merely that it's worth having nice people around you anyway, until they prove otherwise.

tfw literally dont know what to talk about with strangers, just sit in class silently, mumbling when asked a question

>>6895056
what do normies talk about?

>>6893464
>>6893480
>>6894983

i know these feels

i hold great conversation and i'm told i'm hilarious

i just don't seek out relationships

i think the easiest way might be to start talking over text/snapchat/facebook tbh. then you can talk in person

>>6894983
I'm the same m8, I think this is probably just classic introversion.

Introvert doesn't mean "hates people", it just means you hate frivolous social interaction; you'd much rather wait until you have something suitably witty and delicious to say.

Our culture makes people afraid to admit they're not extrovert because it's "antisocial" by definition

>tfw qt3.14s all over my school
>tfw everyone is a couple except me
>tfw I know I have to make the first move on a gril, but my body locks up when I try
>tfw low self esteem, chubby, ugly

Help me before I kill myself

>tfw I can easily make and friends and all that but i'm happiest when i'm alone or cooking

>>6893228

Shyness that is criminally vulgar.

People always mistake shyness for rudeness, snobbishness, standoffishness, basically anything but just being shy. I know that feel, I'm working on it.

>>6895195

>>>/fit/

journey of a thousand miles bruh bruh

>>6893342

You're stupid. Because you have a deep voice people respect what you're saying? Fuck off, I actually to what a person says, and I can tell, you'd be full of shit.

>>6893416

Fuck I hate that. What do you say to that? Oh, ok.

>>6893472
>angry depressed cunt

tfw I am though. I only talk to people I can share quips about everyone else with.

>>6894069

I love to drink.

>>6894165

Pot is not safe

>>6894286

If you were so smart you'd be able to adapt to their level. Ok, they don't want to talk about that concept. All your friends talk about the same shit? I have friends who I skateboard with who are academically dumb as shit, but we talk about skateboarding, music, hockey etc. I have other friends I can talk about books and art with. Neither are better than the other, just different.

>>6894323

maybe they're smarter than you and though, "get a load of this cunt."

>>6895305

I never said I was smart, y'know. And I tried to talk about other things, and like I said, it wasn't interesting.

>>6895309

Now that's just mean spirited. She brought it up, anyway; I don't know why everyone is assuming me to be the snooty intellectual, forcing my taste upon the worthless proles.

>>6894918

Reminds me of The Fall, the main character did all of that kind of shit because he liked the feeling of being recognized as doing something right/or noble. Ultimately though it's hard to tell. When I see a girl struggling with a big bag, I help not because I want the satisfaction of doing the right thing, but because I think of my sister and would like if someone stronger would help her. The outsider can never really tell the intentions, and either way the person you help feels good.

>>6895056

I used to think like this until I was hanging out with a guy that would talk to a surfer at the beach, "how's the surf?" and I said who was that? He said I don't know. I realized then it is that easy and people reciprocate friendliness, I mean they would be more weird for acting hostile toward general pleasantry.

>>6895324

Ok so then why do you care about being friends with them?

>>6895331
>forcing my taste upon the worthless proles

because you speak like that.

>>6895324

I think it is worse to make some potential friends only to alienate yourself on a night out with them after just meeting by getting to drunk and acting obnoxiously. This has happened to me many times.

>>6895371

Whatever.

>>6895367

...Because I'm new and friendless?

>>6895379

That must suck. I'm usually a pretty controlled drinker.

>>6895385

It does, seriously. I need to work on how to control myself when drinking.

>>6894069
>>6893884
>>6893775

I started drinking with friends a few weeks ago and I'm much more sociable with a beer, like I'm the center of the conversation when I'm drunk and it's great

but I don't actually care much for the rest of the effects or actually drinking

how 2 act like I"m drunk without being drunk all the time?

>>6893464
>>6894983
>>6895156

me too

do you wanna meet up and stand in a circle and jack each other off or something

or maybe we should start a steam group

seriously though I'm an arrogant asshole and I have a huge superiority complex but I'm also scared of rejection from people I don't know because I don't know them well enough to realize I'm cooler than them

what's up with that?

>tfw im a 9 or 10 in most girls' eyes
>tfw im not a pussy

grow some balls and smile and talk more.

>>6895252

It's not like I am discussing quantum physics with these people, there is no objective measure as to why my opinion about mundane issues should be valued more over the ones of others.

And, yes appearance and confidence is the Number one factor in making people agree with you at least in bullshit conversation that is
It's 99% ape-play

So while you might think that I'm full of shit while we were discussing an issue in a group of peers it's very likely that people would listen to me more (I assumed your physical features don't quite match with mine noting how butthurt you sound)

>>6895544
Real Talk? What you feel when you're drunk is only a cheap chemical facsimile of self confidence and personality. If you want that golden moment to become your eternal now, it's going to take some real effort on your part. Totally worth it, though.

What you're going to want to do is experience as much of life as you can. Become proficient in at least 2 art forms. Remember to be grateful at least once a day. Start exercising. Read strange new books voraciously. Perfect everything you can about yourself as much as possible, and experience everything life has to offer.
Over time you'll become confident, talkative, more interesting, better looking, more understanding and more fun to be around. Just like you **think** you are when you're hammered.
The best part is that it's all real, and it's still there when you wake up in the morning. The worst part is that it will probably take several years to get a real handle on and properly set in.

starting a new job tomorrow and just found out today.

my issue is im quiet and reserved and unphased by most things. im gonna need to act more social or whatever, and leave a good impression.

any tips?

>>6897072
You seem like such a great man. Why do you spend your time in a place such as this?

>>6897072
post three books you read recently and liked.

>>6897085
He cant follow his own advice

>>6897090
also what is the best way to get free books on an unjailbroken iphone?

thinking .pdf would work fine right?
good place to cop torrrents?

Holy shit, this board is just lil /mu/ except with clothes.

>>6894618
>>6894536
hey dudes. I dunno how old you are, but once you get to be in your 20s, most of the pretty people you see have gone through acne/being fat/whatever other thing is bumming you out right now.

Even if they look good now, they still know your feels, and usually don't ever grow out of that mentality.

tl;dr
don't worry about it. Just do what you can to get your shit in order and live your life.

>>6897116

>4chinz
>the place created by socially inept niggas for socially inept niggas

why u even here?

>>6897085
I've been on 4chan for a while. I like the format and the way it encourages strange and wonderful things to spring up out of chaos. Like a glorious cubensis popping out of a cow pie. There's a vibe and a potential that only exists here. So there's shit posters. So there's garbage and racism and hate threads, so what?
We still get those moments that you just don't find on other forums.
Most of the other forums are either slowly dying or have become insular circle jerks, while the rest are so behind the cultural curve it's pathetic. Everyone talks about how shit 4Chan is and how ashamed they are of being here, but think about just how much culture and thought has POURED out of this place. How deeply rotted its influence is - to the point where it's completely invisible to most people.
This place is a furnace of free thought that cannot be properly moderated or monetized. How is that shameful?

A lot of life is about separating the wheat from the chaff. Do that here, you'll find what keeps you coming back.

>>6895345
Amazing book. Albert fucking Camus.

>>6894702
this.

I mean, you can still try not to be a reclusive dick or something, but you don't need to commit yourself to the people you're talking about.

Eventually you'll find someone who is worth while, or those people you irregularly interact with may find themselves in a different phase of their lives that changes how they behave and think.

Just don't get hung up on hating people, I guess. Be weary, but just do your thing.

>>6897124
Kindly elucidate what you mean by 4chan's "culture and thought."

>>6897124
answer this plz
PS are you an introvert?

>>6897090
>>6897103

>>6897151
Maybe you don't see the forest for the trees, but you're in the thick of a massive cultural engine that will be researched, discussed and parsed long after you or I cease to be.
We make things here. We output humor, spread ideas, launch movements, write software, make music and art. Most importantly, we discuss things here in a very free-flowing, fast-moving way. Many, many threads lead back to this place. It's not just an 'anime message board', although it's tempting to call it just that when we routinely downplay its significance or attempt to devalue another's opinion or attitude.

>>6897152
Matterhorn by Karl Marlantes.
Speed Is Of The Essence by Gail Sheeney
The Magic Kingdom by Stanley Elkin

I don't have a smartphone or an e-reader and I don't torrent things. Can't help you there, but PDF is called 'portable document format' for a reason.
I suppose I'm an introvert, but I've found that this is a choice I can make every day, and not a hardwired setting. If the people and the event are worth the energy, I'm quite extroverted.

>>6897169
Thanks.
The worst 4chan users are the ones that think themselves better than this place.

>>6897190
cool thanks

i tried the PDF thing but it doesn't work right because the font is too small so i have to scroll or zoom in often.

if anyone knows a good place to get book torrents and read on an iphone, post it up.

>>6897169
This reminds me (and I mean this in the least patronizing way possible, please don't take offense) of one of my friends who, as a teenager, cultivated a personality cult for himself. He was one of the most important figures in a constantly evolving community of hundreds, and even to this day, when he has long left it behind, his name is mentioned regularly, and if not with reverence, then with respect. This doesn't inspire any of us, his friends in the real word, with anything other than slightly defensive derision - we are male teens, after all, and any accomplishment no matter how minor is begrudged to some extent - because the community was the teen exclusive subforum of a bodybuilding message board, and the reason he acquired the prestige on it that he did was that he was a funny troll.

4chan might be constantly generating new content, but it seems to me to be almost completely confined to a type of humor that is too busy biting its own tail to have any -real- dynamism, and if it has had a significant impact on society, then I can't see how. Outside of things done for the lulz, it seems that there are better places to turn to.

that feel when no qt gf
oh god I am so lonely
who i am???

>>6897366
Is that u matt helders?

>>6897338
At the end of the day I think this place is what you make of it. I can say without a doubt that I am a better human being in part because of the things I learned here and the discussions I've had here.

tfw 8/10 where i lived but i moved and now 6/10
tfw tall at 5'9 where i lived but now a filthy manlet
tfw found /fa/ and now i rake in bitches like im an 8/10 again
its a mixed bag of emotions but i guess im happy

>>6893472
I don't get this either. My landlord tells everyone that comes into the house that I'm quiet, but I don't get why I should be talking to her. Does she expect me to knock on her god damn front door and start up a conversation? Because I'm fine with just saying hi to her when I see her in passing.

tfw gonna be the most well-dressed, attractive boy in my res hall (and probably my whole class)

finna get mad poon

>be in college
>dress well
>fat
>girls always talk to me
>never make a move
>can't converse beyond subject of class
>start summer
>need money
>dad is contractor
>50 bucks a day
>get job sanding decks/kitchens and interior of homes
>get jobs in Whittier, Beverly Hills, Hollywood
>wealthy home owners and designers around me
>his designer partner a 40 year women that gets him most big jobs says I dress well
>wheres the GF
>I...I am single
>you are funny too
>smile
>takes me out to lunch
>wearing raws and red wings
>takes me to a nice restaurant
>wtf is this a date
>start feeling nervous
>tells me to order two salads
>o...okay
>she mostly on phone
>starts to rub my legs with her LV heels
>she is trying to seduce me
>start feeling nervous
>people around me seem to notice whats happening here
>anxiety
>boner from her rubbing
>we leave
>driving around in her vintage ford
>here you drive
>fuck
>tells me to drive to another job site
>15 minute drive pull up to some great looking home in Whittier
>ok lets take a look she says
>o...okay
>at balcony
>says wait here
>sit at balcony for 5 minutes looking out to the hills
>feel tap on my shoulder
>turn around
>she is in a leopard print bikini with some other younger girl probably a call girl
>rarrrrgh
>take us Ed
>they sit on my lap and start kissing
>dick so hard
>they pull out my dick and start sucking it
>one takes the shaft and balls and the younger one takes the head
>come so quick
>fuccck
>still hard
>young one starts to ride me
>eat older women out
>get done in 30 minutes
>younger smiles
>kisses me on lips and goes back inside
>we take off
>now your dad does not need to know about this
>hands me a Barney's gift card
>1k on that bitch
>if your dad asks what took us so long just say we stopped by a job
>winks and kisses me on mouth
>now get in the car
>drops me off at house at
>12 am work in 6 hours
>smile at each other at work
>get 2k more in gift cards from random stores after her "lunches" that summer

>>6897562
cool story bro

>>6897562

wtf

>>6897562
>you will never have a sugar moma

>>6897562
>implyign that happened

>>6897562
>lying on the internet

>>6897562
>fat

>50 bucks a day

Does your dad hate you?

>tfw you think you're introvert
>you're super quiet and hesitate to initiate conversation
>other people sometimes talk to you
>sometimes you get so energized from it, you easily talk to others and are a social butterfly
>night goes on, can't sleep
>finally crash
>next day comes
>as introverted and quiet/reserved as a brick unless rare chance of cycle to trigger and repeat

I noticed a lot of the introverts in this thread are surprised they can be social in some situations, but that's completely normal for introverts. Being introverted doesn't mean you aren't social or can't be social. It's not the same thing as shyness, for example.

I'm okay socially in most situations but when the numbers get too large I just have to leave or not attend, parties are the absolute worst for this.

I was supposed to be attending one last night but didn't show up mainly because I only vaguely knew the host and didn't know anybody else there. I know I'd end up being that guy stood in the corner.

beta as fuck

>>6893397
>160
>acne
what the fuck are you even talking about.

I get shy around girls i like, no shame

>>6897898
dat feel

>>6897898
>tfw shy around girls unless you're certain that they like you
>tfw dont give a fuck attitude and can finally be yourself
>mfw all my friends are opposite and shut down when they know a girl likes them

>>6895381
Pretty ignorant aswell

>>6895559
I used to be like that, Still kind of am. Can't start a convo with a random person, If we have to sit next to each other in class then its alright.

>>6897252

go to lit, read about #bookz, get ibooks or whatever

you could just go to the library though

I learnt last night that I'm just too introverted to function.

>tfw starting job, sports, etc
>tfw good at conversations if I've at least been introduced
>tfw started conversations with a few strangers and it's getting easier to do but I still get nervous in the approach

What do /fa/? This is my chance to be fully normalfag and build a good social circle but I'm really feeling the pressure at the moment.

w2c relaxed yolo mindset

>>6898260
just listen to some gd music and relax

>>6898264

gd?

>>6898266
good, im not gonna rec anything, just go to mu and find something

>>6898269

Oh ok. I guess but it's sort of a weird way to get pumped. I've tried before and the feeling goes away as soon as the music stops.

But /mu/ hate music.

>>6898304
It's just a nice non-chemical way to distract yourself, because I imagine that the feeling of anxiety will go away once you start doing things.

>>6898309

Not really the anxiety builds up no matter what I do to distract myself.

Should I just do a small hit of weed or something?

>>6898317
Sure, if you want to. The only problem is that distracting yourself with literally anything can become habitual, and addictive. I suggested music because it can be a nice topic of discussion, and won't really take over your life like other things might for the genetically predisposed. But tbh, do whatever you like, just keep balance in your life. Don't let this normalfag thing rule how you feel, because you'll be way more likely to fuck up, or feel that you did if you do.

Maybe listen to some relaxation recordings, or go for a run, something to get the adrenaline our of your system.

>>6898334

I feel you brah. I've been thinking about taking up some sort of cardio routine for a while so that might be a good idea.

>why are you so quiet anon?

get fit srs

>tfw soft voice
>tfw half the time people ignore me and the other half they tell me to speak up
>tfw too scared to speak up a lot incase it's like I'm shouting

I think it's because I have above-average hearing ability but idk

>>6898787
I know that feel ;-;
Do you get emotional when you try to force yourself to speak louder?

>>6898806

Not really although I feel awkward as fuck

>>6897980
exactly the same way
when i know a grl likes me it's ezmode

>>6898883
sometimes pretend*

>tfw 19
>tfw friends with people with average intelligence
>tfw literally have to dumb myself down and sometimes i dont know what they're discussing so i can fit in

anyone know this feel?

>natural voice is so deep I have to speak through my sinuses a bit so people can actually hear me rather than some loud buzzing bass that makes your ribs rumble

>>6898891

>implying that doesn't make bitches wet

>>6898908
No man, you literally cannot hear what I say if I talk normally. It's like almost an entirely different frequency, I hate having to repeat shit. Also that kind of voice isn't very appealing on a skinny 5'8 manlet.

>>6898883
no, that's not true. you don't understand what they're talking about because you're socially disconnected. this is probably why you also think you're smarter than those around you.

being socially disconnected is a sign of aspergers

>>6898914
talk shit post vocaroo

>>6898914
Get big. Fuck bitches. And dont fret about height only /fit/ cares about that

>>6898914
I know this feeling as well but that other guy is right

iktf

I got a job that forced me to be social just to fix it.

>>6899369
Like what? Waiter or something? I can talk to adults without a problem but when it's people my age I'm just anxious. I sit in class just feeling tense and exposed.

On top of this my face naturally looks pissed off when I'm indifferent. Don't really know how to smile when I'm not genuinely smiling at something. People
Must think I'm an asshole

>>6897729
this so much fucking hell

>>6893334
how to get good life experiences?

>>6897866
Know that feel.

I was staying at a friend's place last weekend while he was having a party, and the amount that I enjoyed myself throughout that night was like a perfect upside down bell curve. Initially when there was a smaller group of people it was great, then it got packed and I felt awkward as fuck, then as people started leaving it was great again.

I just can't deal with large groups at all. I don't know how to fix it, or if I should just avoid it as much as possible and stick to smaller groups.

>>6899872
go outside

>>6900250

I'm outside, now what

>>6900262
now talk to people, even if they're girls

>>6900280

w-what
no
girls have cooties

>>6900285
it's terrifying i know, i'm still trying to muster up the courage myself

>>6900289
>>6900280
>tfw giving advice you don't follow yourself

>>6893228
Guys, it's not that hard. Just make small talk. I ask people how their summer was, what they're up to now, how they've been, if they have a gf/bf how's that going etc.

>tfw you notice girls looking you up and down but they have their poker faces on and you can't tell if they're 'mirin or thinking you're weird

My own personal tip is that you've got to accept that sometimes you're gonna have a bad day where you come off as a retard and get anxious but generally you'll progress in the right way.

>>6900402
God motherfucking damnit this is so shitty

>All my good jeans were in the wash
>My new pair of jeans haven't been delivered yet
>have to wear shitty H&M trousers that look dirty as fuck to college
>feel self concious about everyone staring at them all day

>>6899612

I know that feel bro.

I cured it by listening to happy music and smiling all the time. I probably looked like a bit of a dickhead at the time but my face adjusted to a naturally happier pose

>>6900372

This is a good thing though, because when it works out then you know your own advice works, and that's more incentive to follow it

>>6901425
Can't really listen to music in class, I only listen to depressing shit or hip hop aswell.

>tfw girl said I was hot and gave me her number
>tfw meeting her tomorrow
>tfw want to make a good impression
>tfw dont want to spaghetti

>>6901553

Take a Xanax.

After talking to so many people you will find that most people are pretty shit and not worth talking to in the first place. Hang around with people who will cherish there time with you not people who will constantly judge you for being a little shy.

>>6901528

Do it everywhere else then. Reggae is close to hip-hop and it's happy

I've actually been feeling really really great the past couple of days. I went from tearing up if i kept my eyes off the ground for more that a few seconds to being happy with myself and feeling good about who I am, without having to be a social butterfly. I feel like I could be a social butterfly if I wanted to.

I don't know what happened. Maybe i had a few good dreams or something. I started smiling more at people. I realized that if I pretend to be excited to see someone they will like me. I started to try to say hi to everyone I recognized from class, etc. Nothing more than that, just a hi in passing. I started to notice these people around more often.

I don't know how long it'll last, but for now I can actually talk without horrible stress and even flirt a bit.

and my acne is going down. Maybe because that stress is gone.

I'm feeling up /fa/. And trust me, just trust me. If it can happen to me, it can happen to you. We're gonna make it guys, we're gonna make it.

>>6901585
but how do you befriend these people when you're so shy in the first place?

>>6901822
you're gonna make it brah

>>6901553
don't try hard.

>>6901822

Watch out for the come down anon

I've been where you are and when it stops it can be a shock

>>6894286
this

I'm in college, one of the best colleges for philosophy in a school of 40,000+

And there's a dozen people in the philosophy club

I had this notion that you'd meet people who care about higher things in college, like experimental art and philosophy and fashion and politics

But it is harder to come by than the high school I went to

>>6894172
This shit is the truff, I take a few celebratory hits when I finish a semester or accomplish an important goal.

>>6901978
philosophy

>>6895291
In the short term, it's a far better deal than wrecking your esophagus, pancreas, liver, heart memory and GABA receptors.

>>6898883
iktf

There's one person I know I can talk politics and history with at a high level (he knows more than I do, but everyone else knows too much less than I, or are fucking stupid and their opinions are wrong and shit)

One person I can talk science and physics with

and some I can talk bio with, tho I can't keep up with them

There's an awesome grill who's really into politics and is really smart and passionate about things and has great ideas and opinions, but I haven't talked to her since last year and she didn't say anything on fb when I messaged her asking what she thought about the NSA stuff. She just said she was at work and would reply and never did, I don't know what it means ;_;

Plus, I barely knew her last year, but she is outstanding...

i know that feel op.

but i just hate everyone they all think the same. i dont want to be part of them because theyre so different. the things that come out of their mouths make me cringe.

>>6903472
girls don't really give a fuck if a guy is intelligent or not.

yea, she may talk about a bunch of advanced concepts with you, but that doesn't mean she is interested in fucking you.

>>6894242
I have been in the exactly same situation, don't walk alone they will think that you want to be alone just talk with them, adapt

>>6903507

>tfw they only care bout a good dicking
>tfw short but my dick long
and thick

>>6902005
Have fun with your inflated law/economics degree pleblord

>>6904053
Interestingly enough, I've heard from several authorities on the subject that most halfway decent philosophy students can DESTROY the LSAT without breaking a sweat.
It's such a natural lead in to logic and law, you know?

>>6904162
Looking at the LSAT I can totally see that yeah, every area they're testing is developed pretty heavily in both philosophy and history. Especially the writing, reading is something you get daily. Having a week to read a book and to summarize it in 10-20 pages is nothing irregular.

>tfw three different 8/10 qts hitted on me last night
>tfw I have a girlfriend

I love my girlfriend, I really do, but shit

>>6903974

You wouldn't fuck an ugly person either, even if they could talk to you about interesting shit.

Personality only wins a girl over when the looks department can go either way. Although a bad personality can always ruin things.

>>6893397
160 kg is a lot...

>>6904162
I did a philosophy degree and I've got a relative who is doing a law degree at the moment and it all looks quite easy to me. If you can decipher Heidegger you can pretty much read anything I think.

>>6905439
I kinda wonder how one of those Law-studies is set up. What kinda classes would you need to take etc.etc.

>tfw /fit/ /fa/ CS grad student
>tfw people are somewhat intimidated and mistake you for some econ./law guy
>tfw no CS friends to do group assignments with and spending your nights to do them on your own

>>6893228
tfw you are weirder than people can possibly think you are
tfw you're more intelligent than you are good looking, and you're actually pretty handsome.
tfw you are social and talkative but you're in the wrong environment

>>6905714
>majoring in a nerdy field

dress in all black, no one will talk to you, it's great really.