/fa/ - Fashion

some yohji tamamoto

when are you throwing out your slim suit /fa/

>>6751917
>>6751928
ugly. enjoy yours, though.

>>6751917
hedi4evr

that looks atrocious

I can dig it, but this part of the look ruins it for me, if the trousers were cut shorter or were tapered i'd feel it more

>>6751917

If every trend a handful of designers is trying to push made into mainstream fashion, we'd be all looking like abstract art pieces by now.

Call me when you see Bond in a baggy suit.

>>6751950
>>6751957

keep reading your gq, plebs

>>6752004
psshhh, why should middlemanagers in like nystate or california or w/e be wearing what a fictional british spy wears?

are turtlenecks coming back? i want to cop something snug enough to get me off

op and >>6752004 are trying to make a point, but i'm not sure what it is.

>>6751978
But that's half of what creates the baggy aesthetic

>>6752026
would cop a baggy suit with pants the length of thom brown

>>6752010
>tfw my nerd friends friends call me gq as an insult.

Something pissed me off when I read that.

>>6751928

>>6752026
It looks awful, like plebs who don't realize dress trousers need to be hemmed by a tailor and just wear them as they come from the store.

>>6752020
why should they be wearing a trend on an anime board

>>6752036
haha that made me laugh out loud thinking ppl actuallydo that.

i remember one friend kept this label thing on the back of his suit, guess he thought it was like the hats

>>6751928
>that suit jacket
yoshi are you trying to trick me agen

>>6752026
>aesthetic
>baggy

>>6752026
how about bottoms like this them? looks a lot less awkward and complements the look more

>baggy suits coming back
Fuck yeah.

I've got six Armani suits I bought right before the skinny suit style took off that have been sitting in my closet for years.

>>6752048
>like this them
then*

>>6752049
Big shoulders will never come back. Your old 90s Armani suits will always look stupid.

>>6752049

Get 'em tailored, but heads up: it's gonna be expensive to get the shoulders reworked

>>6752066
What about muh 80s Pierre Cardin?

>>6752020

Because he's the golden standard of timless class, kicking ass and slaying pussy?

Don't get me wrong, it's your choice to follow the trends and get nods of approval from 1 in 500 people who "get it" while the other 499 think you're a tool, but I'm not seeing how a style that makes you look worse than what we had for the past century (not counting 30s gangsters) will catch on to the point of where it would be unfashionable to ignore it.

>>6752089
Or for that matter, this totally bitchin 70s YSL?

>>6752086
now that we've gone as slim as possible, it is a dead end. so now can't i have my thom browne in the closet next to some boxy boss thing or something huge and midwestern looking, or with 80sshoulderpads?

id like that future

>>6752086
you're using a character from a fairly vapid series of action movies as a litmus test for, i don't know, virility? maturity?

>>6752095
looks like whit

>>6752110
You wish you had the Jagger Swagger to pull of 70's YSL.

No they aren't. It is literally impossible for a baggy suit to look good.

>>6752127
idk. thin suits help uglies look better - it evens us all out too much

if i look good, and my thin frame can be seen slightly as my baggy suit bends and folds and my neck and face stand out above the bagginess i coould look good. and an ugly person wearing the same thing wouldn't be helped along the same way as with a thin suit

>>6752127
>>6752127
>>6752127
>>6752127
>>6752127

>>6752127
why?

>>6752105

Want more examples than Bond:

Patrick Bateman
Don Draper
Gordon Gekko
Harvey Specter
Michael Corleone

the list goes on

Those are the characters that will be remembered as style icons, not the runway models from their era. Don't be a fashion victim

>>6752143

I can't say why. It's like trying to describe why a piece of music is bad. It just is.

>>6752144
you're idolizing villains and sociopaths, i can't take this seriously.

>>6752148
No. You don't get to use words like impossible and then flake out when pressed for a reason.

>>6752144
to speak nothing of using the term "victim", then turning around and idolizing gordon gekko. tvpkvk

>>6752148
it's not difficult at all to describe why a piece of music is bad, or why a suit is bad, if you know what you're talking about.

>>6752148
If you know anything about music, then it's very easy to describe why music is bad.

>>6752143
are humans baggy? slim suits naturally accentuate what is natural: it makes the human body look like a human body, but with clothes on.
at least that's what i think

>>6752154
Is clothing natural? Why aren't you a nudist?

you'll never get through an airport/traffic check without being pulled aside while wearing a baggy piece of shit like this.

come on seriously, you look like a kid in an adult's suit and who knows what you have under that suit.

>>6752147

Everyone knows that villains and sociopaths are the coolest, dummy, but then again this is /fa/, so you'll probably tell me how Mr Rogers was rocking a bitching fit.

>>6752166
i'm talking about the silhouette of the clothes
baka

>>6752154
i think in a baggy suit my knees could look thin hitting against the fabric, or it would accentuate my thin ankles or neck or wrists. instead of putting my whole body out there at once. kind of like how women who are clothed are often found to be more attractive than full nude

>>6752154
naturalistic fallacy.


Ought does not follow from is. Not unless you believe in god and divine plans.

Dunno if this counts but the thumbnail looked cool

>>6752179
also i dont wear clothes to look natural, i want clothes that sometimes contradict what is natural, not simply compliment it.

>>6752173
But he was. Chuck taylors, ocbd and cardigans. Sick fit, bruv.

>>6752184
gr8 1 m8

>>6752186
dont feed the troll

>>6752154
baggier clothes can give the impression of being more relaxed, especially by having a flowing effect with the fabric, and can be sexy in the way it shows you less, adds mystery to the wearers body, and by that be seducing in a more subtle way

>>6752179
>>6752180
>>6752185
>>6752195
you're all right, but i think different clothes have different purposes and that a skinny/slim fit suits that one
i'm not saying it's the absolute standard like other black-or-white people

Baggy clothes do not look good. They come into fashion because they are a rebellion against looking good. You can look cool in baggy clothes because you look rebellious.

There is no benefit to looking rebellious in a suit, in fact it defeats the purpose of wearing a suit. Instead of looking like a man who has his shit together, you look like a man who has shit his (very expensive) pants.

Relaxed fit suits will always look best on men who are not thin or athletic, and slim suits will always look best on thin and athletic men. Loose or baggy suits will always make a man look like an idiot.

The thing is though that if you saw a man in a suit like that lavin or yohji you would laugh at him so yeah

>baggy

Nope, never. I will fight it.

>>6752209
Opposite in my opinion.

Slim suits are flattering on men with a bit of a spare tire.

Meanwhile athletic men can get away with the baggy suit.

fashion is contrarian

>>6752238
reactionary*

>>6752235
i guess that is doing the 'rebel' thing anon was talking about above, with the black eye and chain and all

>>6752230
Your opinion is shared by very, very few people. Humans are instinctively disgusted by excess fat. Loose fits hide fat, slim fits show the form of the body underneath.

Laxative final boss

>>6751917
fuck you too op.
sincerely, a STEM major from the midwest.

>>6752160
>>6752153

Guess I don't know shit about clothes or music then. But I do know when a suit looks fucking terrible.

>>6752271
you really don't, and that's why you're unable to substantiate your opinion or even express it like an adult.

>>6752249
a fit guy can rock a bigger size something since they have a nice body at it shows underneath

>>6752253
i'd actually really like these pants if i didn't know that they don't look as good when he doesn't have his hands in the pockets

>>6752253
>chlorea level hidden boss

>>6752281
>Cystic fibrosis level secret hidden boss

>>6752274

How's the weather up there on your horse? :^)

>>6752249
Here's my example:

Speaking as a guy who has extra fat, I'm telling you look I better in a slim fit shirt.

Shirts hang off the shoulders and chest. From there, they go straight down unless they hit something or are pulled by tapering.

If your gut sticks out, it doen't matter if you're wearing slim or regular fit shirts... it will still show. The placket hanging down from your chest will hit your gut, and everyone will see the curve.


The difference though, is that a tapered slim fit shirt will follow the curve of your back, where a regular shirt wont.

You end up looking twice as fat with the regular fit.


Truth is, unless you much fatter than even me, your waist measurments will still be a drop from your chest.

And if there's a drop, you can handle a slim fit shirt.

>>6752284
It's cloudy, bitch nigga... that's why you can't see him
smgdh@these fuccbois

>>6752153
it's impossible for music to be bad

>>6752285
>Perma-osmotic diarrhea 'just came back from 3weeks in indian' level secret hidden conditioned final boss

>>6752253

>>6752300
you should expand on that.

>>6752276
True. What I meant is that the fit should be tight to the man wearing it if his body is worth being shown off, or just loose enough to hide that his body is not worth showing off.

>>6752293
how to run a joke into the ground: a step by step instruction written by the master of running jokes into the ground turny mcleftson

>>6752004
which bond are we talking about? roger moore had like a shit ton of really horrendous fits

>>6752308
why? it's not a hard concept...

step up senpai

>>6752274
idk, i've felt like it takes a lot of context to know what you're actually talking about

>>6752333
he's saying you can't expand on it because you just throw general statements with no substance.

>>6752291
I will not argue with you about how to make you look best. However, we aren't making divergent arguments here, really. Your point is that dressing to look thinner is better, as is mine. I'm fit, so perhaps I don't know the nuance of making a fat guy look his best.

However from my experience, in suits, a jacket that hangs straight from the shoulders can hide a fairly large flat tire, and appears to hide a spare tire even if one isn't there. I have broad, muscular shoulders, and when I wear a baggy suit jacket, it looks like a circus tent. On the other hand, when I wear a slim-fit suit, I look like a complete badass. I will take you at your word that a man with a bit extra around the gut still looks better in a slim suit, so take me at my word that I look fat in a loose suit.

>>6752312
If by horrendous, you mean awesome.

Roger Moore was the first blatantly fashion-conscious bond.

Connery and Lazenby wore fairly standard and tasteful business-wear of the time. The same kind you could see in any office.

Roger Moore's bond was a blatant gold-cufflink old money dandy, complete with cigars and cutting edge (for the time) fashion.

>>6752356
>fairly large flat tire
oops, meant spare tire

>>6752331
>>6752331
>those pants

pls gib

>>6752356
Fair enough. point is with suiting you do what works for your body. Fuck the trends.

Will chino wankers be replaced by Yohji wankers?

>>6752359
>cutting edge (for the time) fashion.
yeah, too bad it was the 70s/80s
that suit he wears in the garden in the man with the golden gun made me laugh out loud, huge tie and enormous collar and lapels

>>6752361
philip lim is the designer

Choose normal or tight fitting (not super skinny though, think athletic fit). Baggy clothes look like shit.

>>6752370
eta he also has a really punchable face and is horrible in the role imo and the ones he was in are p bad

>>6752375
what does that even mean

I think people in this thread need to distingush between a suit that is cut to be loose, and a normal suit that is the wrong size.

>>6752388

Both look like shit though.

>>6752388
i think u need to learn to distinguish a joke

>>6752388
Why? Since when is looking like crap intentionally better than looking like crap on accident?

>>6752403

This.

>>6752403
*ironically

>>6752403
Tell me you're trolling. I really don't want to bother with this.

Yes this baggy thing has been around for a few seasons

you're very slow /fa/.

>tfw short and will never be able to wear anything remotely baggy

>>6752447
>has never seen Yohji
>has never seen some of the manlet/fat models he uses

>>6752471
pics?

>>6752476
google m8, dudes like 5 foot tall.

>>6752471
>implying they look good just because he uses them
lol

>>6752502
Where was that implied? Protip: it wasn't.

>>6752502
implying something is bad because you don't like it

>>6752510

>tfw short and will never be able to wear anything remotely baggy

>has never seen Yohji
>has never seen some of the manlet/fat models he uses

He said he could never look good in baggy clothing as a short person, you replied with disbelief that he has never seen the short models that Yohji uses. The nature of your reply implies that the opposite of what he said was true, that in fact short people can look good in baggy clothing.

>>6752581
>just because he uses them
there's you problem m8

>>6752581
they can look *cute* in baggy clothing.

>>6752591

>>6752591

Then what was the fucking point of replying to him? What were you trying to say with your post?

>>6752650
You're an idiot and I can't be bothered to explain why, have a nice evening.

>>6752658

Oh, of course. Why didn't I expect a reply like this. You too, cunt.

>>6751978
Apparently that's a classic length for suit pants. I think it's retarded, but what can you do about suit tailors?

>>6752693
That would be a full break. I don't think that has been popular since the 40's.

The most common is the half break, where it's only in the front. This looks good with a cuff hem.

Pic is no break with no hem, which is the modern look. This suit is a traditional American cut: full and masculine, natural shoulders.

>>6752916
Here is another example. Notice there is almost no taper in the jacket.

Shoulder pads, tapers and slim cuts end up making you look feminine and less likely to succeed at business. (You'll look less trustworthy at a subconscious level)

On top of that, it's less #comfy. There's a reason why this look has endured for 60+ years as the upper class uniform.

Ugh I will never accept baggy suits.

>>6751950
Damn that's nice.

>>6752951
>You'll look less trustworthy at a subconscious level
This is huge.

The American look is above all, honest-looking. It's suposed to make you look like a decent, average, hard-working, baseball and apple pie, all american guy.

>>6754149
> decent, average, hard-working, baseball and apple pie, all american guy.

LOL that shit aint /fa/ go fuk urself faggot

>>6754192
No it's not, but that;s what an American-cut suit is supposed to represent.

>>6754256

English cut > all.

that looks so unprofessional. proper fitting suits are so hot, why would anyone wear that baggy-ass shit. save it for your goofninja streetwear

>>6752127
Your kids will say the same thing about slim suits.


ITT: teenagers

>>6752243
and most importantly,
cyclical

>>6752249
Dylan Reider is adored and most of his tees have boxy fits
Think skinny girls in oversized sweaters

>>6752310
>can't appreciate his free medicinal education courtesy of TL

Don't be such a pessimist :^)

>>6754336
>I've never seen pictures of a suit from before 2000

>>6751917
>baggy big suits are coming back
what is yohji yamamoto for the last few decades

Not a single good-looking suit has been posted yet. For shame, /fa/, for shame.

Watch and learn. This is how it's done; Neapolitan style.

>>6752014
First pic I've saved on here in months, thanks twerk

>>6752154
>are humans baggy?
Nowadays, they are.

>>6755077
who makes these fucking paintings

>>6755077
man what the fuck I'm trynna sleep here

>>6752110
>looks like whit
>whit

The Whit is the nickname for the hipster neighborhood here where that sort of retro faashionista funk isn't uncommon. Funny coincidence.

>>6755081
These are illustrations for the book "Man After Man: An Anthropology of the Future".

they're good if you are tall and handsome. it just has to be obvious that what you're doing is intentional rather than a mistake

>>6755090
>>6755081
This man >>6755120 is right. It's by Dougal Dixon who did a speculative biology series.

>>6751917
It's only natural they are. Baggy clothes become fashionable in times of economical or social crisis, and it so happens that we are undergoing a time of such a crisis.
I suppose it's cheaper to have non-tailored clothes, and on the other hand the bagginess creates a feeling of opulence.

Look, 20s had fairly slim fits -> Great Depression -> baggy 30s -> World War II -> baggy early 40s.

Slim 50s and early 60s with the perfect suburban communities portrayed in Mad Men -> social upheaval, hippies and Vietnam -> baggy late 60s and early 70s.

Mid 70s slim again -> oil crisis -> baggy 70s and early 80s.

The only era that doesn't conform to this is the 90s, but they were fucked up.

>>6755533
>Baggy clothes become fashionable in times of economical or social crisis, and it so happens that we are undergoing a time of such a crisis.

no
this is not a thing which happens

>>6755533
m8...

This baggy suit thing looks like the end of that Tom Hanks movie Big where he turns back into a kid and is still wearing his big boy clothes

>>6755533
Slim is reaching it's peak and was building up during the crisis m8, the crisis started in 2008, don't forget that.

>>6755562
Yeah obviously people didn't start wearing baggy clothes the day housing bubble burst. Changes like this take some time.

>correlation always implies causation, im so smart im so science

>>6755665
Not always. But when it happens no less than three times, it's wise to at least give it a thought that the two might be related.

I'm really digging these baggy dress pants, but I'm not sure I can pull it off with only being 5'11

>>6755704
suiting in the 20s was huge; ww2 suiting was extremely slim, with slim lapels and no pleats; immediately following world war 2, christian dior and balenciaga react with huge, yardage consuming silhouettes, but this was well before the postwar recovery and was a reaction to war time austerity, it had nothing to do with economics.

suiting in the 50s and early 60s was anything but slim and that's why 60s youth culture ended up adopting slim clothing. it was rebellion.

shut up and sit down, is what i'm trying to tell you.

>mid 70s
>slim

top lel

>>6755847
>fucking pseudobullshit over with hard facts
go hard twerk!

Big lapels and flared pants don't necessarily mean a baggy cut. Notice how tight these pants are at the crotch and thigh.