/fa/ - Fashion

what does other people wearing clothing or your own age have to do with anything?

But you can imto #mensfashion

>this thread

>>6668643
same reason why reddit is everything wrong with our generation

life is short, so why not enjoy how you look? you only get to be attractive for like 10 years, and fashion is interesting.

what pisses me off the most is people wasting money on good clothes. It's fucking annoying as hell.

Like, so what? you spend $1,000 on those dream basket shoes, like what does it even mean? is it like buying a mercedes??

drunk confessions about your insecurities of aging, and your fear of being lost in the crowd but trying to be accepting of it at the same time pls go; ur drunk.

>>6668651
what are you talking about

>>6668656
>you only get to be attractive for like 10 years,

what a shitty attitude

>You won't be young forever.

well yeah that's why I try to make the most of my youth and dress in an alt style, when I'm older I'll probably fall into the more traditional menswear stuff, but for now I try to dress in clothes i like and feel comfortable in.

>caring what others think of you
>not dressing in next level fashion to make plens feel inferior
This thread reeks of desperation and insecurity.

>>6668656
i say from the age of 20-45 is like peak if you have good genetics

>>6668621
>Even when I get a job as an engineer
That's where I stopped taking you seriously. You guys all have the same mentality. I grew up around it and I've seen it all through school and life.

You need to understand that some people wear clothes because they like clothing. YOU, on the other hand, said this:
>Whether it be because you want to look different than everyone else or simply because you think a certain style makes you look the best you can possibly look.

That's two alternatives you gave us. They're both wrong. They both involve defining the self in relation to others and for the sake of others. People like me define ourselves because the process gives us joy. That is all. There is no endgame. There is only the joy of becoming right now.

You're not one of me, and that's okay. You have a role to play in this life too. You are concerned with processes and results. Thank god for that, we need that as a species. Just try and remember that this isn't about social climbing for some people. It's about love of an art form, and the experience of the garment is its own reward.

>>6668643
what are you even asking

>>6668700
are you being serious or are just taking this retarded attitude because youre on 4chan

>>6668656
Your attitude is awful, man, you need to change that up.
It's perfectly doable to look fresh until you die.

>>6668705
>art form

Art has no function, so how can something like clothes that you wear be art? I understand that some of the catwalk stuff can well be called art. Outside of that however, the clothes you buy and see in shops are geared towards the practical. It's not art, but design.

I'm not check&mating you just yet, athiest. I'll let you gather your thoughts and wait for some fun discussion times that will start in just a few minutes here.

>>6668757
r u a troll
pls b a troll

and like poet said you're an engineer stem type of guy so no amount of explaining will probably get this through to you so i suggest not wasting time trying to argue anything

>why do you spend your money on becoming what you want to be

yeah haha right op nailed it what loosers lmao!

im gon save my money for a mortgage on a house i dont want with a wife i dont love and kids im not proud of instead!!

>>6668757
Don't call me an Atheist.
We have nothing to say to each other, I think.

>>6668757
>Art has no function

horseshit

>>6668757
art is subjective anything can be art nothing can be art please don't start this argument

>>6668757
poets a retard, but art and function aren't mutually exclusive and a lot of people here buy stuff from runway collections soooo yeah

>>6668621
>Jeans, collared shirts, t-shirts, Keds, Clarks
>took me a couple years to build up

stopped reading there lmao. tell it 2 some1 who cares broke bitch

>>6668621
how can you be 23 and not yet understand that it's pointless to premise an argument on flaccid internet psychoanalysis

you're not going to be able to conjure up let alone start a dialogue with the Spirit of All Fashion Purchasers dude

>>6668705
lol did you just finish a phi 101 course? shut the fuck up with your pseudo intellectual bullshit. Before you try getting all existential, learn how to comprehend what you read and try to form your thoughts in to sentences.

>people wear clothes because they like clothig
holy shit youre fucking dumb. yeah they like certain clothing because of design.

>that's two alternatives, theyre both wrong
how the fuck can they be wrong? those are legitimate reasons why people shop at nordstrom's and not wal mart.

I like how you started off with claiming some sort of superiority, but you wrote about nonsensical sociological bullshit that makes no sense; and not in the sense where I don't get where you're trying to take this, but that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

>There is no endgame
>there is only the joy of becoming right now

you've got to be fucking kidding me. really far out dude.

>>6668779
And we don't have to. But we can defend virtual discussion points, if you can actually debate, instead of just exchanging opinions.

>>6668785
When art steps into the practical it becomes design.

>>6668789
I think I said some of the catwalk stuff. Most of that you wouldn't find yourself wearing anywhere in the street or at home however. Some stuff on Catwalks is a design product, and that's what you later find in shops.

>>6668822
have you joined your high school debate team yet, or do they not teach you about strawmen?

>>6668822
you sound very angry and sound like you have some sort of dissatisfaction with your personal life so come on the internet because you as a stem type enjoy "beating" others in arguments

i know kids like you they're such losers, yes they are book smart but nobody likes them

you aren't going to convince any of us of anything

fashion is just something you don't understand

please leave

>>6668822
Great dubs, but you really need to consider alternative narratives from your own. And be less angry, it's bad for your skin.
We're done here.

>>6668824
>When art steps into the practical it becomes design.

this is a false statement.

>>6668822
poet is our residential autist, don't take him too seriously. I'm pretty sure most people filter him, I personally don't because he brings a certain comic relief to this stick up the ass board.

>>6668757

you're right. art has no function at all. yep. humans have no need to express their emotions, at all. in fact, we have none. we're vulcans. yep. Why do we even need money?? wtf are we gonna use money on since we don't need to accept that we have hobbies LIKE CLOTHING/CARS/FISHING/ETC to spend on. Like what kind of fucked up piece of shit needs to spend their money outside food and shelter?

I would fucking wreck you verbally if I ever heard you talk. Shame you so bad, you would mentally jump off a bridge.

>>6668822
is this supposed to be some kind of pragmatic slam dunk because you just sound like a fucking idiot

>>6668764
dude your ignorance is unbelievable. you think that scientists/engineers aren't capable of understanding art and the like? let me tell you, it's possible for people to be fascinated and capable in different subjects.

>>6668822

You started this thread not with the intention of having us answer your questions, but with the intention of instigating some sort of argument because you're one of those loser nerd types, I could tell when you said

>I'm not check&mating you just yet, athiest. I'll let you gather your thoughts and wait for some fun discussion times that will start in just a few minutes here.

Holy fuck you sound like such an unpleasant neckbeard lol

>>6668846
ya i'm an engineer but i'm not a utilitarian instrumentalist rationalist libertarian or w/e fuck those guys

but i am qualified to recognize this conversation is going to be a trainwreck

>>6668824
I wear runway stuff almost exclusively and I'm sure plenty of people here wear it daily at the least

Also I don't understand why you're trying to separate art and design? design is an important part of art. I don't think it's fair to say clothes are just a designed product, You have the design/patterns for the articles, but after the fabric selection and construction are done the finished piece becomes art unto itself

>>6668822
OMG its one of those guys from the pictures of the betas with the "nice guy" and "friendzone captions"! I literally thought you guys stayed on reddit with all your pseudo-intellectual stuff. This is great. Are you euphoric in your knowledge about fashion sir? And tip your fedora when you speak to me.

>>6668846
>type of guy
didn't mean to imply that all of them are like that, i just know people like op who have such elitist personalities because of their school grades and enjoy putting others down with "facts" and "logic" and start arguments for the sole reason of having and feeling a sense of victory

>>6668858
you can't copyright functional design

CHECKMATE, ATHEISTS

>>6668840

I think you need to do this more often and just ignore these kinds of posters, poet.

>>6668866
i even got sick numbers
it's over, it's over
the welfare utility copyright argument saves the day

>>6668866
w-what

>>6668868
I'm working on it. Today was a step forward for me.

>>6668866
>trips and double dubs

>>6668840
You telling me that I lack an ability to see from a point of view other than my own doesn't mean that I'm not.

>>6668868
i feel like a retard now

>>6668888
>TRIPQUADS

>>6668893
:')

>>6668863
Wow, the engineering comment was only to highlight the dress code you insecure twat. Way to get hung up on something that has nothing to do with anything in this thread.

>>6668621
a lot of things that should be said have already been said, but i just wanted to respond to this

>Don't you guys feel ridiculous wearing really expensive clothing just so that you can look like this idea of what you think you should look like?
i certainly don't feel ridiculous spending money on something i love. as poet said, the problem with this view is that it assumes that people only wear certain clothing to define themselves in relation to others (to clarify, i don't think it's inherently wrong to consider what others think of your appearance).

>I wear basic boring shit myself...
i'm not sure how this actually falls in relation to the rest of your post (you're upset about trends trickling down to the lowest common denominator, or questioning our motives for wearing certain things?) but i will try to respond. i think it is perfectly fitting that you now dislike your basic, old, mall-brand wardrobe as a result of others dressing similarly, although it's strange that you're threatened by losing a perceived facet of exclusivity while you criticize our fashion choices.

>Even when I get a job as an engineer...
i honestly expected you to be stem from the first line of your post. i'm personally of the belief that clothing should not be purely logical. obviously there are considerations of function, construction, etc. from a design perspective, but it is also important for an item to resonate with you on a deeper level. i feel like having the mindset of a nebulous "endgame" is a mistake; you can't win at yourself.

i don't expect we will see eye to eye, but from a designer to an engineer: please be more human. not everything has to have a solution; you may just find the process much more rewarding. peace and love

>>6668757
Art has no function?
Back to living in caves if that's true.

>>6668829
this

OP.. get a fucking life.. lmao

homie is a grown ass man. an engineer. and he's posting on a fashion board trying to tell people their hobby is stupid like a child. top laughing.

just don't reply.

>>6668925
Dude, what the fuck does my plan of study have anything to do with what I'm talking about. Be more human? What is so inhuman about anything I wrote? Also, the "logic" derogatory remark that keeps popping up is not even being used correctly. I'm not a philosophy major.

>>6668975
you're a loser.
You're never gonna get it, either. I feel so bad for you.

>>6668975
nothing you've written is "inhuman", but it shows that you seem to refuse to empathize with differing world views. lamenting the lack of an endgame in your opening post, the black and white thought-terminating statements (clothes are not art, art has no function, etc.), just seems like such a cold way to see to me. the "be more human" comment was directed more toward your profession, rather than relating to fashion. studying and working in architecture, i've seen too often engineers create (admittedly beautiful) solutions that forget about the people for which they were made.

don't take the heat in this thread so negatively; it's just fashion after all. peace and love

I've like to take the time to point out that OP is 23, and still in school. he implies that he'll be working as an engineer. this has as much truth behind it as someone in high school saying they'll get x degree, and work for x company.

I hate to rain on unadulterated dreams, but the odds of you doing anything with that degree, much less getting it are hilariously low, especially seeing how your original post has no real form, or semblance of clear thought. obviously English isn't your best class. I'm reading your list of clothing, and scratching my head. simple shit is fruit of the loom, hanes, Levi, chucks, etc. I don't know if any if the bands you mention, because I'm non native to /fa/. you're just butthurt because you don't want to update your look because you're lazy/poor/hate feeling like somehow changing your style = being perceived as someone who cares about how they look (yes /fa/, many people are afraid to change for this reason. social stigmas are real in many areas.)

Grow up first, figure your issues out on your own like a man, then come back and lurk for whatever you are interested in until you come up with a better idea of what'll work for you. Post only when you have your full ensemble flushed out, and listen to the advice you receive.