/fa/ - Fashion

Skirts can be rad as fuck.

Well, women started wearing trousers 100 years ago. So it could become socially acceptable for men to wear skirts.

Once fifth wave feminism kicks in and men actually achieve some equality.

>>6364563
And also heels used to be masculine.

Not OP, but where to cop affordable men's skirts? Do women's skirts sized right at the waist work, or is the cut bulgy or something at the hips?

>>6364578
Iz OP.
Speaking from experience, women's skirts right at the waist would work. Try it up yourself, and choose a model that is not form-hugging, maybe pleated or twirly (sorry about bad English, but I think you might know what I wanted to convey).

I never understood why they became unacceptable for men, warriors and rulers and gladiators wore plateskirts and togas for decades. They look extremely comfortable and if I had the budget I'd cop one so hard.

>>6364552
Givenchy skirts
RO skirted pants
RO wedges

Buy them, wear them

>2013
>not using your quilted barbour jacket as a skirt

>>6364860
are dose golf wangs

>>6364843
Implying these does not cost nearly as much as one makes in a year.
Implying any skirt on men is accepted by mainstream culture.
Implying those delicious heels are made in my size (EU46/US12) :(

>>6364870
yes they r my beaters tho.. usin them to skate in

shit's pretty much inevitable, and that it actually seems to be sticking after the abortive attempts in the 80s and 90s is a good sign.

skirt like garments/silhouettes are sneaking into the main stream (i think tying shirts around the waist is sort of a precursor to the idea)

No. They wont ever be widely held as fashionable.
Neither will high heels on men. Many men's boots have taller heels but they are made for men. Putting shoes that were made for women will never look good on men.

>>6365389
but when the reverse happens, when women appropriate menswear, you're all for it, i'm sure.

>>6365389

Are you saying they won't AGAIN or they won't ever be? Because this seems a little uninformed of relatively recent history.

it will never be accepted faggot if i see you wearing one you're getting lynched

>>6365408
Many will, not everyone however.
>>6365417
It all comes down to opinions and tastes. Many like the new man-skirt trend spearheaded by Givenchy but things come and go. You seem to be under the impression that that trend is widely approved.

It all comes down to taste.

>>6365456
Whoops, unintentionally repeated myself.

>>6365456

No, I was asking mostly about this from the historical perspective. As recently as the 70s, high-heeled shoes and platforms have been worn by men, but there have been various periods of history where men wore heels and other items that would be considered "feminine" by contemporary standards, which is why I ask.

I don't agree with you, of course, but I just wanted to see if you knew about the larger historical context I brought up.

>>6364552
skirts yes. you just need to use masculine cuts (straight lines, wide pleats (not as in pic), possibly heavy fabric) and it looks manly as fuck

besides kilt (which is technically not a skirt, but looks like one), it was also worn in balkans; see fustanella.

heels - fuck no, not even for women. it's just some strange custom that started when aristocrats wanted to look taller, and both men and women did it at first. it's bad for feet, and i much more prefer normal way of standing to the strange pose a woman makes when she has high heels on - she looks like a cow because heeled shoes behave like hoofs.

>>6365456
these cheesy man-based neologisms are really tiresome. "manskirt, medges, meggings, meels, mess". it's a skirt, wedges, leggings, heels, and a dress. speak the queen's english damnit.

>>6365490
>heel hate
you might be basic if... you're surrounded by people who can't twerq heelz

>>6365456
>spearheaded by givenchy
Get out.

>>6365518

I also asked about the historical part because that poster seemed to have gotten in to this discussion late and I had the feeling that he didn't quite know how to trace the history of ideas like this back to their roots.

>>6365507
i know sticking an "m" aqt the beginning just makes you seem like you're desperately grasping at some false sense of masculinity

tbh i think marc jacobs looks great in his skirt

>>6364552
If you watch Sliders, in some alternate universe, they already did

Drkshdw cargo pods look pretty close to skirting, and can be a good halfway point in my opinion. there's the implication of layers of skirted fabric, especially with that stitched band across the legs (here just covered by the tee). Wear a long tee and you have a pretty skirtish silhouette.

>>6365599
I have been experimenting buy buying long tanks and sizing up to wear with another shirt over and shorts underneath

The tanks are long enough to cover my butt

I'm not really sure, they're so associated with femininity. Not even just skirts but heels as well, I can see thick heels for men working but if you give them a male equivalent of regular high heels for women we'd probably think they made them faggy because it makes your hips swing more and so on. And what should men do with their legs when wearing skirts? I mean, I don't think the average guy is going to want to invest all that time and effort to shave his legs even if he doesn't consider it gay, but I doubt seeing a landscape of thick bodyhair will be in fashion anytime soon with our obsession with hairless bodies.

I think at most it would become something that's pulled off by androgynous celebrities then finds its way into their subculture. I can't really see it going mainstream any time soon.

>>6365646

I think these are...um, fair points. But given how many different skirts and other items have already been posted, I think you don't have to "imagine" these problems and just see how people wear it no.

>>6365646
they could shave them
or
not
dont matter tbh

>>6365648
Oh I've seen people pull it off or, well, put it on in those cases where it's the most positive possible description, I just wanted to give input concerning OP's question whether it will ever become mainstream.

>>6365658
That guy looks like he's very much into fashion and just doesn't care whether anyone likes it or not. OP asked whether it will ever become a common thing, which I doubt because a lot of people have issues with bodyhair and at the same time shaving is for some guys a sensitive issue, either because of laziness or because of it being "gay" or otherwise not masculine enough. Hell, where I live (Eurofag) any type of trousers/jeans that doesn't cover the entire legs is seen as unprofessional and unstylish.

I once bought a bunch of cheap tees that cost 5$ so I experimented with them, tried to modify their seams and stuff. Most of my attempts failed, but I did stretch out one of the tees so much it pretty much looks like a skirt that sticks to the body when I wear it now. It also has this kind of see through quality to it.

I don't have anything to wear it with so I just put on some black jeans and high top sneakers, but it looks really fucking boring

>>6365658
every time I wear shorts I have the biggest problem figuring out what to do with my calves, and how to wear my socks (showing or hiding beneath hightops)

want it to be cooler so I can just wear leggings and be done with it

>>6365675
that's a sruli model... anyway, it seems inevitable to me as we get a grasp on male eroticism and liberate the homos, but maybe my wants and expectations are clouding my judgement.

>>6365680
lol iktf sometimes but tbh i just let my socks slouch on hitops
i still want to get some big loose legwarmers like men's island tho

>>6365701
I think the main problem is that men on average don't care nearly as much about fashion as women do. It might become a popular thing among liberated homos/trans* people/androgynous or just very fashionable/fashion-oriented people, but the average guy is going to stay away from it and play it safe and so that no one will be likely to call them a faggot, which is the first priority of by far most (at least young) men.

>>6365726
which is necessarily obliterated should culture take a turn for what i described. of course, if you assume that nothing will ever change, then yeah, doesn't seem too likely i guess.

>>6365701
post some fits twerk. I have been here a year and I barley never see any fits of yours

>>6365646

I wear leggings underneath my skirt.

>>6365736
here u go

>>6365741
is that actually you?
also what sweater is that?

>>6365726

I think this is very different in a major metropolitan area. Of course, it's always going to be a smaller proportion of the general population compared to women, but plenty of guys care. They might not spend a bunch of money, but they defeinitely care.

>>6365741
i doubt you wear that going down the street.

>>6365747
yes
its an ann dem cardigan

>>6365735
The thing is that this goes deeper than spur of the moment culture. Masculinity has always been more vulnerable and something to be defended compared to femininity: women can bear children and when they become fertile naturally have the start of their menstruational cycle as a tipping point. Men have always looked for "artificial" ways to prove their manhood or the turning point from boy to man, which is why there are worldwide that much more rites/rituals to make men out of boys than to make women out of girls. The obsession with masculinity is part of men and always has been, from the Greek mythology up until now you can see dudes waving their dicks around trying to prove they're a big strong man, it's fighting an uphill battle as you'll never get the majority of the male sex behind you.

>>6365749
dude, it's a fucking sweater
it's not hard to wear at all
tbh this apprehension against pret a porter is getting really tiring

>>6365770
speaking of the greeks, they used to consider trousers unmasculine. you're making the mistake of attributing feminity as an essential attribute of skirting.

>>6365780
Lmao did they really?
Do you have a link to where I can read about that? Sounds interesting.

>>6365792
>We charged at them with spear and shield right away and we fought them, clashed with them, with hardened hearts, each wasp standing next to another in tight lines, biting our lips while the enemy’s arrows filled the sky.
>But with the help of the gods we pushed the bastards back and we saw Athena’s loving bird the owl flying over our men. And then we chased them away, digging our sharp stingers into their baggy pants and as they were fleeing we stung them on the jaws and on their eyebrows.
>That’s why to this day all barbarians everywhere say that there’s nowhere a more valiant wasp than that of Athens.
aristophanes, wasps

>>6365814
do you have a tumblr twerk?

>>6365848
http://amoretlabor.tumblr.com/

>>6365792
Pants were only worn by Barbarians (literally: someone who does not speak Greek).

>>6365865
are you a girl?

>>6366335
sure

>>6366342
oh wait, i found apicture of you on your tumblr. nevermind

you dont have many fits though

>>6366348
too lazy to take them tbh
dont have a full length mirror so i gotta fuss with setting up a tripod and timers

>>6366351
how many swords do u hav fam?

>>6365865
wtf why?

http://amoretlabor.tumblr.com/post/37295938394/ima-cut-u-bitch

>>6366351
can i see ur fits

>>6365865
are you a model?

>>6365741
how much did that sweater cost?

>>6366352
rick owens

>>6366356
just some props

>>6366358
some anon who's thirtsy for my boipussi will be along to post them shortly

>>6366359
yeah i model women's underwear

>>6366362
retail was like 2.5k iirc, i payed a few hundred for it like two years ago?

>>6364873
>a year
holy shit are you a chinese factory worker or something? Get a better job.

>>6366367
lol sure you model. considering you are a guy.
how much did that head thing cost?

also what is your real job?

>>6366370
r u trying 2 stalk me

>>6366375
just want to know your job

>>6366376
also my bussy is real wet boi

>>6366376
im a geisha

>>6365537
is jaccobs like the only male designer who isnt aggresivly recending.

>inb4 thom browne

His hairline is way to far back

>>6366375
yes

>>6366378
lmao who even thinks about this shit

>>6366379
pizza bois r cuter

>>6366385
what is that a picture of?

>>6365537
he be sexXxay as fuck
dayum son!

>>6366390
my childhood teddy :')

>>6366386
post your hips turnleft

>>6366385
I dont, but seeing Jaccobs made me look at him differently. It was his hair that was striking, cause i never see male designers with hair. Just caught me off gaurd

>>6366395
Are you lying to me?

you are a weird man twerk


also what is that thing on your head by rick owens called? do you wear it outside?

>>6366390
stuffed animal by tricky rick

lel, OP I was actually thinkgen about this at work. But I was thinking more about the skirts Scottish dudes wear. Now I get on /fa/ and this is the first thread I see. Crazy how that works, eh?

>>6365389
>Putting shoes that were made for women will never look good on men.

Bullshit, look at this nigga I've never seen a dude rock hh so hard.
I'm not even a fuccboi fanboi

>>6366403
>man
my pronouns are "your majesty" and "your highness" please be respectful

it's a rick owens veil and yeah i wear it out in the cooler months but fuck man it's 30c outside today aint got time for that

>>6366412
do people laugh at you?

does this pic describe you?

>>6366418
if they do they are very polite about it and save it for passive aggressive posts on their facebooks that i will never see :^)

>>6365537
see when i see male skirts like that, I think it's way too simplistic and feminine. They should be intricate and detailed as fuck to be interesting in my oppinion

>>6366418
"man" is a noun, not a pronoun.
damn the american public school system! try harder while you still have three years high school.

I really like my kilt, but it cost me far too much to wear anywhere other than formal occasions. I have been thinking of getting a couple of cheap ones though just for a bit of fun, I have a couple of friends who've done it and they always have a lot of fun when they're out.

>Scotfag obviously

I think it can be pulled off reasonably well right now if you layer up like
>>6364558
However, shit like
>>6365537
is too simple and makes him look like a faggot.

I really do hope it becomes a thing.

>>6365456
I really wouldn't pin men's skirting on Givenchy. I wouldn't pin it on any one house, actually. It's a logical progression. It's coming. It makes sense for the coming future.
It will recur every few years until it breaks the surface tension of the mainstream, and then it will become a slowly accepted staple.

But until then, let's not forget the minimal but noteworthy popularity of men's skirting in the underground electronic music and club scenes of the late 90's and early 00's. I saw plenty of hippies and techno-interests-me types experimenting with them ages ago.

Post more fits / tips on how to pull it off beyond NGAF / copping advice. Let's make this happen.

>>6365683
>did stretch out one of the tees so much it pretty much looks like a skirt that sticks to the body when I wear it now. It also has this kind of see through quality to it.

You can't post something like this and not tell us how to do it.

>>6364552
No, it'd never get mainstream acceptance, and they don't even look good on men to begin with.
Male heels I can actually see happening though.