/fa/ - Fashion

I like BB in general, although I can't imagine wearing these unless you're a square-jawed old money yuppie. which I guess is the target demographic anyway

6/8

Looks nice in photos of course, but i don't really see how you could pull of that decently in a daily basis.

Like seriously.

>>6006338
If you lived where I live you probably could. Anywhere else and you would look like a twat though.

>>6006429
Do you live in the 1920s?

The pants look nice, but this shit looks like fucking costumes.
Unwearable as a whole. Only a few individual pieces could work.
Bet tons of fedorafreaks will be buying this shit up to be "Classy"

>>6006865

fat greasy neckbears wearing all white suits with a black shirt and a white tie...

>>6006306

pure swag

I've browsed though their collection. The white linen suit can have it's uses. Brown linen is pretty versatile. Rest is too costumey (tux would be okay but flap pocket and center vent kill it).

The shirts and ties all look great.

>>6006865
your "fedorafreaks" don't even know what Brooks Brothers is.

Not a fan of Brooks Brothers to be honest. Even at their best their jackets are far too short when it comes to the aesthetic side of things. Makes you look like a 'mo.

>>6006298
>>6006248
Both of these would look better on blacks.

>>6006235
>>6006244
Love both of these even if the pink is too costume-y. I'll probably pick them up.

>>6006302
I may get this. I can see rocking it with a miniskirt and a huge-ass necklace.

Imitating the characters from The Great Gatsby is kinda absurd.

>>6006284
>old money
>yuppie

erm...

>>6007628
There's nothing conflicting about those two titles, old money just means the family has had money for a long time and yuppie is a young person with a high paying job and no modesty.

>>6007003
Brooks Brothers isn't some incredibly high class, exclusive boutique, it's a chain of clothing with locations in malls and strip malls.

The brown and white brogues are the only things I really like.

>>6006244
Model? Like hell he is! He wears a pink suit!!1eleven!

>>6006835
No.

There's also Holt Renfrew Gatsby guide and interview for women.

>>6007662
Like many chains, it has cheaper versions of a lot of its clothes to make it more accessible. It's just another example of breaking up your consumer base to make as much money as possible: Make cheaper shit for the people with less money, and more expensive shit for the people with more money. These fits would probably fit into the latter category.

Anyway, I quite like these, even that pink suit. Not a fan of the striped jackets and all of that crazy shit, but all of the pants look great, and I would love that brown linen suit.

For a bit of context, one of the more poignant scenes in the novel:

"He took out a pile of shirts and began throwing them one by one before us, shirts of sheer linen and thick silk and fine flannel which lost their folds as they fell and covered the table in many-colored disarray. While we admired he brought more and the soft rich heap mounted higher – shirts with stripes and scrolls and plaids in coral and apple green and lavender and faint orange with monograms of indian blue. Suddenly with a strained sound Daisy Bent her head into the shirts and began to cry stormily. “They’re such beautiful shirts,” she sobbed, her voice muffled in the thick folds. “It makes me sad because I’ve never seen such beautiful shirts before.”

Costumey, poorly made shite.

>>6010627
I love that part

>>6010627
I dont geet it

dump the mad men one! forget who its by though. probably not brooks.

>>6010680

nana republic

>>6010655
I always read it as a signifier of how these expensive accoutrements are the means by which Gatsby aspires to a lifestyle and cultural heritage he will never truly be able to attain.
Gatsby is a (Jewish?) gangster in hiding, pretending to be an old money American blue blood. Some folks can see thru his ruse, Daisy being one of them. The sadness that she feels is an expression of how futile it all is, these great lengths he's gone to in order to simulate a life that never could have been his. They are beautiful, expensive and fleeting extravagances, trappings of wealth and culture that are ultimately meaningless.

>>6010652
It makes me feel so sad for poor old Mr. Gatz. A beautiful passage, though.

>>6006233
The shirts look great, and I'd definitely wear a linen suit like that for a summer wedding.

>>6010702
i just assumed that he was buying tons of shit and not wearing them.

>>6010627

I honestly can't remember much about Gatsby, but I will always remember that scene.

Today I picture him throwing Tom Ford shirts down and her weeping over them

i might get the backless vest because it has a neat inlay and maybe the cardigan if the matierial is nice enough. then again i get BB stuff at cost (no, i don't work there) so that might have persuaded me.

dunno why youd buy any of the other stuff when black fleece exists at a similar pricepoint with ++++ quality and fit

>>6011029
Even if that was the case, Daisy could still be crying for the same reason - because of how the shirts are, in the end, meaningless. If you want to take the device a bit farther you can argue that Daisy is confronted here with how meaningless her own life is - she married Tom for money, not love, for access to the very trappings of wealth that Gatsby is tossing about like yesterday's newspaper. She's realizing her entire life is built around facades and that she squandered the one real and honest thing she had - love.

>>6010702
>some folks see thru his ruse, Daisy being one of them
the whole point of the GB was that he had to do all this shit because Daisy was a shallow bitch who wouldn't be with him if he didn't have expensive jawnz

>>6010702
>Jewish?
mayb further than that if u buy in to this whole school of thought:
http://www.salon.com/2000/08/09/gatsby/

>>6011035
after watching a single man im convinced tf could have pulled off a gatsby movie

>>6006233
you have to be an oggsford man to be able to rock em

>>6011122
>http://www.salon.com/2000/08/09/gatsby/
Oh wow, that's something else... Gatsby was 'passing'. Interesting thought.
I'm filing that next to "Nick Carraway is actually a gay man":

" 'Come to lunch some day,' he suggested, as we groaned down the elevator.
'Where?'
'Anywhere.'
'Keep your hands off the lever,' snapped the elevator boy.
'I beg your pardon,' said Mr McKee with dignity, 'I didn't know I was touching it.'
'All right,' I agreed, 'I'll be glad to.'
...I was standing beside his bed and he was sitting up between the sheets, clad in his underwear, with a great portfolio in his hands.
'Beauty and the Beast...Loneliness...Old Grocery Horse...Brook'n Bridge...'
Then I was lying half asleep in the lower level of the Pennsylvania Station, staring at the morning Tribune, and waiting for the four o'clock train."

I like it

>>6011097
FEELS

>>6011159
when capote did his screenplay adaption of gatsby he wrote nick as gay, i think jordan too

2 bad paramount tanked it in favor of coppolas version

>>6011159
Nick was gay though or at least bisexual.

He liked Jordan, who was a tomboy, cheat, and a golfer. (not saying that being a cheat is a masculine characteristic, but i feel like I should include that)

also in your quote notice the phallic symbolism.

>>6011210
>nick as gay, i think jordan too

Why?

Was Daisy black too?

its pretty obvious that nick is, at the very least, bisexual. gatsby being black is complete bullshit doe.

also the backless, black waistcoat from the collection is pretty cool but iunno when i'd wear it. with a black suit? uhhh...

>>6011216
yo im not saying i subscribe 2 either of those ideas just mentioning them

capotes a bad bitch tho and i fully support him B-)

>>6011232
>its pretty obvious that nick is, at the very least, bisexual.

>chases a female lover for the entirety of the novel

Yeah, too obvious.

>liking athletic women means you're bi

You can't be serious.

>>6011212
>phallic symbolism
most definitely, that stands out to me more than him coming to next to the bed. I never read Nick as gay, but that passage always stuck with me. Looking back, I think I might have just glossed over a lot of details that I didn't possess the capacity or reference points to process at the time.

>>6011210
That was the one in 76 or thereabouts with Redford, yes? That was a terrible film. I had no idea Capote did a screenplay - Shame on Paramount for passing on that.
>>6011190
Most people squander another's love at some point in their life. Realizing you have can be a painful thing, and feels would be justified.

>>6011232
backless waistcoats are a classic item bro, you can wear em in place of a normal waistcoat if you want
wear em without a jacket
wear em without a shit who gives a fuck

Nothing racial in the great gatsby I think. just class passing. Gatsby thinks that he can be upper class by having money and expensive things, but real upper class people don't care about any of that. Money is meaningless to them because they've always had it. showing your weath in clothes and cars and things is vulgar. the only thing black about gatsby is that he's "nigger rich"

>>6010627
where is this gif from poet?

I always cringe when I see people discussing 9th grade required-reading or listing it among their favorites. You just know it's because they haven't read anything since.

How about we talk about 1984 you fucking faggots.

>>6011266
The only people even addressing the possibility of Gatsby being black are trigger-happy social justice warriors forgetting when the novel was written and using one 'dark skinned' comment as an excuse to run wild with their anti-white agenda.

>>6011269
yes, 10th grade required reading is definitely on a different level

one of my favs is invisible man, which we had to read for... i think it was senior english.

>>6011269
tfw 1920s English literature speaking of the state of England during the 15-17th
tfw people are only ever interested in the old ass book cover

>>6011260
Are you being serious.. or? I mean youre obviously not serious about wearing it without a shirt but calling it timeless?

I think this particular waistcoat might be super with a black suit and maybe a black knit tie. The texture/print is super interesting.

>>6011269
And then there's that one projecting autist. Perhaps these books are on reading lists because they're among the most important of the past century.

>>6011275
Btw twerk if you don't mind me asking...
You know the 'wing tip effects' some boots have?
If I add a rubber sole to the upper of a boot of mine that is winged will it lose that shape?
Thanks
>A cobbler will attatch.

>OH YES I AM SUCH A RICH CULTURED STRAIGHT WHITE MALE
>I AM BOUND FOR YALE AND LOVE CROQUET AND SAILING

This is what those clothes scream to me

>>6011283
here's an article by a dude who is stodgy enough to say that you shouldn't wear a waistcoat without a jacket but still recommends backless waistcoats

http://andrewsandpygott.wordpress.com/waistcoats/

i wasnt joking about going shirtless btw

>>6011284
The most important for... kids in high school.

I'm not projecting. Your lack of culture is self-evident.

>>6011288
what are you asking
the wingtip is the way the toe cap is attached to the rest of the upper

>>6011292
Culture me up then please. What do you have for me? Infinite Jest?

>>6011308
beat lit or bust

>>6011293
if you want to look like an anime pirate...

>>6011307
Thanks!
I just handed a pair into the cobbler and sort of concerned even though it's unrealistic.

fuck it dw it was a real dumb thought process.
But yeah, nvm.

>>6011308
>applying dfw isn't hi-school as fuckk

>>6011268
Perfect Blue, the one about the actress with the murderous stalker.

>>6011269
It's still a good book, no matter when you read it.

>>6011324
anime and japanese video games definitely owe a huge debt to ann demeulemeester, particularly that tetsuro whatever dude who is always doing characters for square enix

>>6011269
You best not be angry, because that was my seventh grade required reading and I've analysed it multiple times since, in a variety of classes-just finished a paper on it about the sadomasochistic instinct behind big brother for my final thesis paper before jetting off to college. I wouldn't have even dreamed of underlying concepts like that way back when, I wasn't at the age to grasp them proper.
Although books in the end are a matter of personal taste, many of them are 'classics' for a reason in how accessible they are to younger folk. Great Gatsby isn't a verbose novel-doesn't mean it lacks depth, or heavy meaning.
It's all about the perspective you approach them from, is all.

>>6011293
yo what the fuck is up with this stringy shit some designers put on the clothes

like wtf major turnoff especially on a nice piece that gets ruined by lil strings

lookin at u bbs

>>6011344
varies from designer
with ann demeulemeester its a reference to bondage and deconstruction, and it's also a reference to the antiquated garments that dominate a large part of her vocabulary; before buttons were invented, and they were invented fairly recently, garments were closed with straps and laces.

>>6011344
Damir does this too... and I kind of like it.

>>6011353
also, with ann, they sometimes double as garment closures
altho i never really use them this way

>>6011343
>just finished a paper on it about the sadomasochistic instinct behind big brother

Wow that's some real left field shit right there. You must be so worldly and insightful.

>>6011293
Cripes twerk u even know about classic menswear too?

Might order this but I don't know what to make of it being silk. I think it could provide some nice texture contrast between the layers of black.

I don't know if it would cover enough though. The V looks like it goes pretty deep and the upper arm areas seem pretty thin (they may show too much of the inner shirt?)

it's older than ann though. the first usage im aware of in modern fashion was by westwood

>>6011366
I just really wanted to do a paper about Freud before I ditched. It was my last chance, anyway, so why not. :^)

>>6011344
I don't know, I think it has a neat way of moralizing the clothing. Like a sort of natural imperfection. I totally get the sentiment with how obsessed a lot of the industry is with sterile crisp geometry right now.

>>6011368
i know everything
it's an unusually adventerous garment for brooks bros. too short in length for my tastes, but interesting. go ahead and get it, and if you don't like it, they have a return policy.

>>6011375
westwood also uses it as a bdsm reference, but she probably appropriated it from military garments.

>>6011375
also, what's happening here in this suit, is surprisingly modern
i dont follow current westwood but the 70s stuff is shockingly current, sometimes.

>>6011383
*mortalizing

>>6011420
what kills me, with mass market garments, is how efficient they are. no fabric wasted. like, come on man, is fashion is made of fabric then more fabric = more fashion, that's so obvious

part of the reason im so in love with these silly little skorts is that they use an obscene amount of fabric. they're cut in only two pieces, which are folded, and then folded from the front and back skirt panel into the short legs. it's incredibly wasteful, just the way luxury should be.

>>6006865
>Bet tons of fedorafreaks will be buying this shit up to be "Classy"

There's nothing necessarily outrageous or 'unwearable' about the collection. At all. The pinkish linen peak-lapel suit is a bit much, but the rest is pretty normal. Boring, almost. I don't know how you could possibly think these look like costumes.

>>6011432
that's a backwards diaper bro

>>6011511
i would be willing to wear a rick owens loincloth

>>6011519
At least that would be more wearable that that veil fuccboi.

>>6011432
WTF plz explain the construction i cant see wats goin on

>>6011534
look between the legs, you can see the seam that connects the two panels
the front panel folds backwards into the front of the two legs, the back panel does the same.

>>6011343
>just finished a paper on it about the sadomasochistic instinct behind big brother for my final thesis paper

Sadomasochism/fascism/totalitarianism has been explored and articulated incessantly for the last 100 years. I hope your professor fails you for bringing up such a stale cliche. Forgery. Insipidity. Have fun 'jetting off to college', genius. I'm sure you'll do just fine...

>>6011554
>someone else has done it
>means you can't do it
Someone else breathed before you. It's played out. Drop dead hipster.

>>6007662
Show me one Brooks Brothers retail store in a strip mall. Show me one. Are you thinking of their outlet stores? Two completely different animals.

>>6011565
You're missing the point. It's cliche. Effortless. It'd be like an art student painting a still life of a bowl of fruit for their final project.

>>6011633
that could be super post modern though

>>6006233
If I buy this will I become nigger rich?

>>6011633
So cliche = bad automatically?

Well then I guess almost every story after the invention of story telling is trash then. Nothing is completely new, everything has been done before. You don't know what your talking about.

>>6011674
>Well then I guess almost every story after the invention of story telling is trash then.

Semantics. You don't know what a cliche is, or you're being fallacious.

>>6011633
I don't particularly care if it's cliche-I'm a horrible procrastinator and I've been reading too much Freud so I just decided to write about Orwell from that perspective, and I found it to be really, really fun. I'm aware on how touched on it is, considering I had to use them as sources for my initial assertions.
Overdone or not, sex psychology and repressed everymen and paperweights are a joy to write about for me. As per according my peer reviewers, that came across, they genuinely enjoyed it and found my thoughts put forth original but grounded. I'm not claiming revolutionary new concepts, yknow. We all stand on the shoulders of giants.
I'd hate to retaliate and I know I'm shitposting, but seriously, chill out and ditch the high horse. There's a full-on muck of an originality debate you're stepping into and this is neither the time nor place for it.

>>6011733
shut up u worthless poet imitator

>>6011944
chill bro, he was just sharing his views

>>6011979
yeah in an unnecessarily loquacious way with none of the real poet's actual skill in writing to back it up

vomit.jpg

>>6011996
maybe you know he was just typing what he thought and not trying to intimidate your boyfriend. not everything is a huge conspiracy.

>>6011996
>as he tries to express an image through text
thom browne is beyond ur comprehnson

>>6011996
>poet is the only person allowed to make longwinded posts on 4chan

>>6011996
Could you please hop off my dick?

>>6012023
Poet's ramblings are bad enough

Please don't encourage more

Honestly

>>6012040
>>6012023
>>6012018
>>6012009
man you all make it too easy

>>6012080
Which is better?
>I AM RETARDED!
or
>I WAS ONLY KIDDING TO BE RETARDED! FOOLED YOU IDIOTS!

>>6012040
I don't talk like that, ever.

>>6012009
>implying there's no massive conspiracy

>>6012101
Quit pretending to be me.

>>6012124
NO U

>>6012124
>>6012101
>>6012135
Doesn't this get a little tiresome?

>>6012142