/fa/ - Fashion

le semen demon

>>5913405
Rick Owens

>>5913393
homogenous unkempt genitals

heather
riri
spruce

(could be too easy)

>>5913435
Rick Owens

bombastic
niggardly
sprezzautura

under
cover
ism

louis the don

Japanese faggot.

Novice uninspiring gorgeous
>Not SR.

>>5913471

Sruli Rectum?

>>5913479
No its Rick Owens

>>5913471
>>5913464
>>5913461
>>5913460
Rick Owens

Kafkaesque
bloodcurdling
Marlene Dietrich

>>5913496
Rick Owens

hushed
uncommunicative
reticent

>>5913479
>>5913485
no

>Sruli Recht
Genius cosey exquisite

>Rick Owens
Comfy simple flattering

>>5913471
>3 obscure words
>Novice uninspiring gorgeous

You have a pitiful vocabulary.

Joy Division
Kraftwerk
A$AP Rocky

>>5913519
richard simmons

>>5913515
Maybe but that's how I feel about the labels clothing.

They're pretty simple words...
Novice: amateur
uninspiring: boring
Gorgeous: subjectively beautiful.

>Cry more.

>>5913509
>>5913515
>>5913519
>>5913527
No its Rick Owens

Cute
Good
Cool

exuberant willy gorger

>>5913542
>>5913548
Rick Owens

>>5913471
soloist

>>5913519
Raf?

>>5913542
g shock

>>5913716
no it's target

>>5913723
>Castizo
LMFAOOOOOOOOOO FAT FEMINIST FAGGOTS CAN'T HANDLE THE BANTER. LOSE WEIGHT YOU OBESE WHALES.

>>5913723
lol @ you're pic

elegant
chic
skin condition

>>5913736
#notbuying #stilleating

>>5913460
undercoverism

>>5913743
i hope ur not implying acne is elegant

touched
shadow
deliverance

GET IT ;]

>>5913753
fabrixquare

>>5913753
woops forgot name

>>5913757

>>5913750
no dreambox lol

>>5913433
fruit of the loom

rivets
cotton
stitching

>>5913760

Smart.
Strong.
Cool.

hoyden
effeminate
androgynous

>>5913819
forever21

>>5913819
h&m

>>5913822
>>5913823
OH YOU GUYS

>>5913843
no ):

>>5913838
So.... I was right?

Tradition
Quality
Genius

>>5913853
gap

>>5913853
sruli recht

>>5913865
Matt you cheeky cunt I will glass you.

>>5913853
Ralph Lauren

>>5913853
obviously bape 'tradition' come on...like...japanese tradition DUHHHHHHH

>>5913876
RRL is pretty cool though (◕‿◕✿)

>>5913855
>>5913876
>>5913900
lol none of you got this yet?


its fuckin visvim u dumb cunts

>>5913393

cold
bootylicious
7 am lecture

>>5913909
Are you a psychic??? (◕_◕✿)
What's your opinion on Visvim by the way Matt?

>>5913909

matt where do u get the money to cop all this shit man are u dealing drugs?

>>5913909
>>5913909
>>5913909
>>5913909


lol i either just got trolled really hard or this is the biggest woosh ever

hiroki nakamura pictures didn't give it away or anything, or the trip name.

>>5913931
hahaha easy to say now i told u, didnt say it before though did you pussyboi?
>>>/mfa/

>>5913922
I like visvim a lot
keep growing on me too

>>5913847
shit taste detected

it's probz smthn lame like haider ackermann

>>5913945
matt pls dont scare off my new friend

>>5913922
From his mom
Ballin' lifestyle without ballin' drugs (◕‿◕✿)
>>5913931
I didn't take my name from the Nomad jacket, I'm not that obsessed
>>5913945
Great! Buy some instead of Geos. It'd suit your your look a lot better imho (◕‿◕✿)

>>5913951
oh yeah earlier poet was chattn shit bout visvim, had to call him out on it

>>5913958
oops hit submit too early

then he called me out on it and i realized i don't know shit about visvim so i told him to talk to u

>trollface

>>5913945
ive talked to nomad before, his tumblr name is hiroki-nakamura, he's friend's with me on sufu where he has multiple posts about purchasing visvim lmao

>>5913958
Right on man. What was he saying out of interest?

>>5913962
that post was tongue in cheek

>>5913961
>so I told him to talk to u
Can't wait until he hops online and tries to start shit, this is going to be hilarious
>>5913969
Hey bro, peep these sick kicks.
For people who feel like pussyfootin' around

>>5913963
nah he was like i think visvim just steals other designs and sells them at 400% markup and i was like nah nigga where find that for the same quality at a lower pricerange and den he was all like you're right i think i said that cuz i didn't like that piece and i was like it's cool mane and he was like can u tell me more bout visvim and i was like whoa there whoodie i aint wikipedia, my nigga nomad knows more than me

>>5913950
okay, just tell him not to fuck with me or ill fuck him up

>>5913951
yeah they would actually lmao
i like the ones with the dangly bits
what are they called lol

do they fit big

>>5913980
lol he asked u about it earlier when u called him out in that swagfag thred

ummm i thought u saw it and decided to ignore it, thats the only reason i brought it up #lmao

>>5913982
FBT, or maybe you mean the Shaman.
They fit pretty true to size in my experience, but it depends. The made in China and made in Korea pairs normally fit more tts than the made in Japan pairs.
The FBT's are really interesting, honestly the most interesting new sneaker silhouette since the mid 80s when Nike was going all out.
Come on, just look at the picture, Visvim is way more wearable than Rick. better construction too. Who would choose a crepe sole that gets worn the fuck out over a goodyear welted sole?
>>5913986
Oh, ok then, I'll be happy to talk to him then
>>5913988
Oh really? Huh, I missed it, I went to bed right after I posted that paraphrased John Cage quote.
I'll let him know when I see him

>>5913963
I asked you earlier in another thread. You ignored me.
I also admitted openly that I spoke too soon and wasn't educated enough to make a statement about it. I'm not here to start shit with you, that's my M.O.

The truth of the matter is that I'm biased because I don't like the way a lot of it looks. Simple as that.

So please, tell me about Hiroki's design philosophy, or what the brand aims to do. I'm not being insincere, either. I want to be schooled on this brand.

>>5913969
oh weird maybe i don't understand how it works here then yet, kids spout and i guess i don't get angry.
>>5913982
oh wait, i remember you, this is you on sufu right?

>>5914008
ye

>>5913999
fbt is it yeah
sexy
would rock those

>>5914008
>-10

one of my better results


that one fit in the sweatpants got pretty highly upboated tho lol

>>5913995
mfw I've asked him the same thing like 6x
Eventually go a answer, p.lack luster but just went w/ it.

tl;dr it's like the infusion of many sort of asian cultural aspects intertwined into somewhat focal points of traditional garments to produce a result that expresses all these cultural facets but also is still marketable to the avg. sufu sneakhead. Oh and something about interesting use of recently manufactured fabrics (i.e what CDG does) while also incorporating other weird shit.

Just a sort of hyper version of Supreme w/ a more crazy lust for luxury and a 'cultural' twist.

>>5914039
just look at the clothes

this shit doesnt matter

>>5914047
it does though, theres more to fashion than just being a consumer

>>5914047
I respectfully disagree.
For some folks it does matter.

>>5914039
So it's an approachable cultural melange, then? What constitutes recent fabrics? Synthetics, mostly?

>>5913995
Oh, ok. I legitimately went to bed, sorry I didn't see your post.

I think what's so interesting about Hiroki is that he has such a wide range of influences, and while that's nothing special for a designer, I feel the way he manifests them, to me, seems more heavily rooted in creating wearable, interesting clothing rather than abstraction. He brings together native american indian culture, various other indigenous cultures, including the Inuits, traditional american outdoorswear and workwear, the strong techwear tradition of Japan, military surplus gear, and of course traditional japanese culture all come together extremely organically in his collections, because at the root, all these influences are what made him start Visvim in the first place, it's a culmination of all his cultural experiences - he sees clothing as a way of representing traditional culture and clothing physically rather than a more traditional high fashion designer would manifest more abstract ideas such as architecture, visual art, sculpture and other forms of high art. I always find the intricate details of production extremely interesting as well - the use of traditional sashiko stitching on down jackets, traditional dying process, the little decorations on FBT models - it just to me represent a very individualized product.
>>5914065
No, TurnLeft is actually pretty wrong on that one, but it helps bring me to another point. I feel that Hiroki recontextualizes aspects of other garments and cultures into his pieces, and a lot of his most interesting items are amalgams of two interesting styles or a twist on a design classic. Yes, Hiroki uses a fair amount of synthetics, but rather than using polyester a la Comme des Garcons to create bizarre, albeit conceptually and visually interesting pieces, Hiroki's work is more about modernizing classic designs - The M65, a Peacoat, a Blazer - and making them as utilitarian and hardwearing as possible (part 1/2)

>>5914065
I guess synthetics but I wouldnt say just sort of innovative approaches to blends but ofc made artificially so in that regard synthetics but...It's used in a pretty intelligent way so don't associate negative stigmas.

>>5913962

can we all be frens :~)

>>5913962
yeah im fuckin w/ u m8
his tumblrs good

>>5914116
oh shit i think i've seen your name on sufu too :D

>this thread

>>5914133
ur supposed to use 3 words

>>5914140
>this fucking thread

>>5914140
you used six

>>5914145
marc jacobs

>>5914099
He does use a lot of technical fabrics such as Windstopper, Goretex and SPM to weatherproof and waterproof garments, while still using traditional materials such as hand-dyed cotton and wool. He also seeks to maximize the potential of natural fabrics, especially leather , especially in the folk range - trying to make shoes and leather garments that go through as little treatment as possible to retain the breathable and malleable natural properties of the leather - and what do all these breathable fabrics like Goretex and Windstopper and even leather have in common? They're comfortable, breathable, and as such, they function almost like a second skin - this is one of Hiroki's main ideas, one that he's incorporated since he established Visvim as a footwear company.
I suppose you could relate Visvim's use of so-called "technical fabrics" to techwear brands like arc'teryx veilance that contemporize classic, minimalistic designs like blazers or traditional mountain parkas with technical fabrics, keep in mind, Visvim's been doing this since the early 2000s, while arc'teryx veilance didn't start production until 2009 - I'd say Hiroki's use of technical fabrics has more to do with his work at a snowboarding company and having to utilise hardwearing materials, and then seeking to integrate those materials into a more traditional design aspect - I think it's a perfect way of illustrating of how Hiroki bridges different ideas seamlessly - using traditional fabrics with cutting edge production techniques, melding traditional cultures with more streetwear-oriented design, etc. Like Turnleft said - he makes garments with a huge amount of thought and culture behind them, but that are approachable and wearable by almost anyone, and is extremely versatile in terms of style and application. That's why it bothers me when I just see people write off Visvim as "dadcore" or "hypebeast streetwear" because I feel it has so much more to offer than that

>>5914145
you know you want to join in, besides i too want to know why people(specifically nomad) like visvim
>>5914152
LOL

>>5914099
Okay. I see how I was being glib by saying he copies designs and adds a detail or two. I've definitely seen the Amerindian and Inuit influences, too. There's a pair of shoes that stick out in my mind. I just had to google Sashiko stitching... I see.

I appreciate the post. It's actually making a lot more sense to me. Is there a visual archive of the brand any place? I want to pay more attention to places at which he connects the culturally rooted details. I think one could make an interesting point about shared threads between all cultures if this concept were properly executed.

>>5914159
>his work at a snowboarding company
William Gibson has a whole book about this crossover between high end snowboarding gear, tactical military stuff and the fashion world... He mentions Japanese designers crossing over between fields. It's in Zero History, iirc. Perhaps Hiroki was an inspiration for my favorite author?

I really had no idea that the brand went so deep. As I said before, I'd love a place to get a better look at it. Barney's usually has some in store but an archive or retrospective would be awesome.

Thanks for taking the time.

>>5914166
>Is there a visual archive of the brand any place?
Turnleft asked the same question, and the sad answer is, no. Nobody has scanned the 10 year retrospective (to my knowledge), and the early dissertations for each year never really pop up on the bay that much :(
You can gleam a lot from various interviews and stuff on the internet though, and text articles as well. I really wanted a copy of the latest issue of the New Order because it had a huge write-up on Visvim but it sold out really fast, and the shipping from europe where it's in stock is like twice the price of the magazine
>>5914199
Wait, I think I know what book you're talking about, 90% it was in the superfuture technical wear thread
>>5914159
Also, just a couple more caveats because I was at about 2000 words there.
I like how Hiroki is committed to creating a product that has some sense of individuality - you might see small blemishes on the leather - simply because there isn't a whole lot of treatment, and most treatment is organic vegetable dying, and furthermore, Hiroki likes maximizing the use of any hides, despite some minor superficial flaws, as long as they aren't of insufficient quality for manufacturing. Almost every pair of visvim footwear comes out different in a way.
Also I find his committal to trying to use organic, environmentally friendly methods of dying, tanning, and sourcing materials interesting, but I'm sure in this day and age not everyone cares about the environmental impact of their products.
Oh, and while I touched on it, he's always looking to exploit new, forward thinking avenues for production, and utilizing classic, work intensive methods such as Goodyear welting in order to make the best possible products
And a lot of people complain about the price, and while it is definitely more expensive than most of it's streetwear contemporaries, Visvim inarguably provides a much better, higher quality product that is worth the price.

>>5914199
Bergdorf Goodman carries Visvim if you're in NY
Nick Wooster is a big fan - peep the Armigers he's wearing

>>5914248
fucking nick wooster
he looks good in thom browne though

>>5914230
I love that gif hes so qt

Get on Skype pleb

>>5914296
wots ur skype bro

>>5914255
Nick Wooster is amazing. And yeah, he does
>>5914278
I've been on skype for ages lmao

>>5914301
owlandthetanager (◕‿◕✿)
I used to really like Sufjan Stevens

>>5914230
Thanks again for this - I'm in the middle of something, will reply ASAP
actually learning a lot

>>5914364
plz poet stop this pic is scaringgg me

>>5914364
shieeeeet this pic just gave me a great idea

>>5914248
I'm feeling those, after what you mentioned about sustainable production techniques and natural dyes, minimal treatment of leather. I love when there are unique points to every piece, like the way they do the bowls for the japanese tea ceremonies, I always liked that - finding beauty in little irregularities that don't affect quality, only character.

I'm big on sustainability and first world goods, I feel like I been missing out by letting my assumptions speak for me.

I'm in NYC, I was actually thinking of copping that military backpack a while back but the $600 price put me off because I intend to bike with it and beat it to hell and back. I've got some googling to do.

>>5914376
It's the only such one I have... sorry!

>>5914364
This may sound strange (or edgy to some) but I think that's a beautiful image. almost terminator-like, with such blatant disregard for the body. Next level.

>>5914481
That's exactly what I thought.
It's a beautiful debasement of the human body.
Goes great with a military neural implant.

"big in japan"