/fa/ - Fashion

Kofe time

>>18358199
I'm new here, this is the infamous kofe time watch? What's the ID and what makes it so special?

>>18358203
All your answers will be found here: >>18353590
They go into considerable detail.

>>18358173
>omega speedmaster in classic black
>tudor black bay gmt s&g
>hamilton murph
I feel like the first two are fine, but the last is a little redundant.
When would I wear the Murph and not the Tudor or Omega?

>>18358210
Because it's a field watch not a diver or a chronograph.

>>18358213
Also I like cathedral hands. You could also go for an aviation pioneer or pilot pioneer but that actually does look too much like a dive watch

>>18358214
The design of the Murph has a lot of overlap between field watch and older Pilot watch styles, I think. It's a handsome watch but I could not bring myself to wear a watch that says Khaki on the dial. Why couldn't they have just put "Automatic"?

>>18358221
There's the alpinist but they added a disgusting cyclops.

>>18358222
there are alpinists without the cyclops though

>>18358222
>The old SARB017's are like 700 dollars used
Geez. That's a tough break.

>>18358227
Only if you buy used (ewwww)

>>18358229
You can still find old NIB examples flying around, but they'll be around 1,500 USD. That's simply not worth it for a Seiko.

>>18358210
Alternate:
Zenith chronomaster original white face with blue/grey subdials(no fat retard daytona bezel)
Omega seamaster 300 in blue
Hamilton ventura

>>18358240
>Omega seamaster 300 in blue
Do you mean the Heritage version like picrel, or the updated Bond version?

>>18358240
Seamaster co-axial reissue, not the modern one

>>18358244
Pic related, the co-axial. I forgot I needed to clarify that

>>18358244
>>18358246
The Summer Blue version is extremely cool. That's the one I'd get. No fauxtina.

>>18358185
based tissot enjoyer

>>18358261
I like tissots logo but their style choices remind me of timex

>>18358249
I met a doctor who was wearing this watch at a brunch bar, we chatted over how far society has fallen in health and basic reasoning. Good chat.

>>18358261
I'd probably get one of these if it came on an actual fitted endlink bracelet.

>>18358323
Milanese is so much more comfortable though and easier to swap with quick release springbars.

>>18358227
Many versions of it in fact, even a perpetual calendar GMT HAQ.

The new GMTs also don't have a cyclops.

>>18358232
>1,500 USD
Yeah, the prices are hmmm... For that money you can get a vintage King or even Grand Seiko already.

fuck off back where you came from bittertard retard

*ahem*

>>18358446
We're all anonymous here, how can we know who do you have in mind?

>>18358475
I actually like the monochrome version, shame it's 41mm and not 37.

>>18358486
Don't worry about. /wt/ still leaks from time to time.

>>18358431
Is that still a current model, though? It doesn't have the silly Prospex X logo on it.

>>18358499
you should fuck off back there with the rest of the avatards

>>18358500
Yeah, it’s been discontinued for a couple of years now.

>>18358327
Nope.

>>18358499
I have both threads opened and don't even bother to check which is which.

>>18358500
Old, one might even say vintage.

>>18358571
Bad Milanese can be an awful hair-puller. Well-finished Milanese is as comfortable as anything.

>>18358486
You know exactly who you are.

>>18358578
Nope.

>>18358580
no shit fucking sherlock lmfao

shitters

>>18358580
So who am i?

>>18358580
Do me please

>>18358500
>>18358552
>>18358575
Is it worth it to hunt down the vintage Seiko, even if they’re a little pricey? Or is the quality just not worth it?

>>18358581
It's lighter and therefore it is more comfortable.

>>18358431
That doesn't even have cathedral hands

>>18358633
Maybe he fell for a strap retard like tbe prx that doesn't even have easy microadjusts and is coping. Any watch you buy on a braclet should be able to look good on multiple straps or it's worthless in my book.

>>18358634
I know, but it's unknown and interesting enough so i posted it. Some people like the shark teeth.

37mm

And the infamous blue Alpinist, the one that marked the beginning of Seiko's downfall.

>>18358633
Nope
>>18358635
No, milanese bracelets are just bullshit and so are this guy's praises for them. The gap in the lugs is ugly and there's no reason a real bracelet can't have quick release spring bars, many do that now. Milanese are also hair pullers (yes all, at every price point, if you have actual man hair) and not appreciably more or less adjustable than other bracelets. Maybe slightly less in some cases.

>>18358658
That’s a cool graphic anon.

>>18358605
Depends on how badly you want the watch. Usually the older the better as far as quality goes if you ask me. A vintage King Seiko is a better watch than the new one for example.

>>18358666
I like the gap and am not brown and don't notice hair pulling on anything. Every watch I get with a bracelet I immediately size it then think nice I'll wear that then I throw it in the box and never take it out and the watch lives on a rubber, leather, or mesh strap from then on because I hate actually wearing braclets.

prob should be asking on /g/ or something, but how hard is it to put together an automatic watch yourself? if you have the movement already ofc

>>18358700
Remove your milanese cuckoldry from my thread. This is a 3 link, 5 link and 7 link thread.
>no 9 link bracelets, that is a mental disorder.

>>18358731
>5 link and 7 link
gay af tbqh bro
kys

>>18358727
Once you have a small number of particular tools, assembling a watch isn’t that hard. Replica forums are actually a good place to get started. They do a bunch of that stuff.

>this factory makes a case but that one makes a better dial, and this guy makes a distortion free domed crystal, combine them for a perfect replica, etc.

>>18358732
Masculine gay trumps effeminate twink otter gay.

>>18358665
How did it do that?

>>18358731
Braclets are for fats

>>18358665
Their alternate color should be wine red/purple with the gold like the green one has. What the fuck were they thinking

>>18358731
If your endlink is made out of single piece of metal lower your tone when talking to me.

>>18358741
>wine red/purple
That'd be nice yeah

>>18358762
No it wouldn't.

>>18358736
It was a US limited edition, and almost the entire batch got scooped up by scalpers.

>>18358707
What did you mean by this?

>>18358774
“Limited” doesn’t mean shit when they make thousands of them.

>>18358764
By Hodinkee i should add, 1959 pieces, sold out in an hour for 600$ (people were complaining about it being 100$ more than the green one) with scalpers getting most of those. Next day they were selling for well over 1k. That's when people had enough and started massively turning away from Seiko. It was the start of the pandemic.

>>18358762
Yeah darker and more purple, wine would look good.

>>18358785
You mean PLANdemic.

>>18358812
Whateveryouwannacallitdemic

>>18358199
>>18358203
>>18358209
>>18358755
Samefag janitor

>>18358764
Oh, so that was when they realized their entire business could be subsedized by "collectors" and "investors."

>>18358836
Seiko did make a mistake trying to become a watch for collecting, I think.
The whole thing about them was that they were reliable and accurate FOR THE MONEY.
Once they started raising prices, having realized what collectors would pay for old watches, they forgot to raise the quality with the price.

They went from being good value to awful value.

>>18358844
This is why chink watches with seiko movements are the best value now. Seikos cases and dials are dogshit on the low end yet cost 2-3x a chink watch that has sapphire, good case finishing, and a proper dial. Multiple chink brands make better fields, divers, and chronos with a seiko automatic or seiko mechaquartz for less money. The new pagani speedys have a sapphire bezel and domed crystal with a seiko mechaquartz for $50-65. Seiko has seppuku'd

>>18358866
I agree.
The watch market is completely upside down compared to what it used to be.

Between Chinese shitters and smartwatches, you don’t need to bother spending more until you get to the high end handmade stuff.

>>18358869
I wonder how much that hurts the lower to mid tier brands like Christopher ward and baltic and monta and so on when brands like sand martin and sugess make watches almost as good for fractions of the cost and let you save up that much faster for a real rolex or omega.

>>18358871
The ones with actually interesting designs like brew or trafford will be fine. But boring people like baltic yeah I mean what's the poing. Kuoe has the nippon meme power on it's side but baltany makes comparable ye olde fashion watches for less

>>18358871
Chward and Baltic have been pretty successful at recasting themselves as the sort of entry level luxury that something like Longines was until recently.

A lot of other micro shutters are probably hurting I’d imagine.

no they're not

>>18358897
They can't be doing too badly if every other watch youtuber has a microbrand they're pushing.

>>18358916
Those feel like scams. Give them money for watches that will be produced within a year…then produce nothing and hope enough people forget to ask for a refund.

>>18358871
I was curious about integ-steelsports but wasn't going to buy a chrward 12 on a whim, not only because it's no throwaway money for me but also I refuse to buy a watch from a brand called "christopher ward" especially since the bong in question 1) isn't a watchmaker of any kind and 2) was kicked out of his own company for whatever reason.
So I bought a cronos skyline for 180, the updated version. It's perfectly fine. Turns out no I don't like the integrated steelsports look.

Why should I ever buy a Rolex or omega instead of a Casio or seiko clone if I only care about how they look?

>>18358956
because a fat, swarthy poorfag nowatch on 4chennel will make fun of you if you don't

>>18358956
rolex and omega are for richfags. im a NEET with a lot of cash, but my only income is the peanuts i get from the government. i COULD buy a decent rolex if i wanted to, but thatd be 25-50% of my net worth gone, and i wouldnt have everything else to go with it. first of all you need a job, a house, a car, a good wardrobe. i dont have any of those things. i would only buy a rolex or omega or any decent watch if i had those things. why? because imagine youre out wearing it, and someone notices it and compliments you. then a conversation starts and you start asking each other questions, you reveal that youre jobless, no house, no car, and it becomes awkward. unless you lie, but why do that? anyway, my point is, whether you should buy one depends on how much you like the watch. you could be a NEET and be really passionate about owning a rolex, and if you met someone and explained your story, theyd probably respect you for buying what you wanted, even if its not the most prudent thing to do. most people respect people who do things their own way. buy a casio or seiko clone if thats what youre happy with.

eventually you just get sick and tired of shit movements and you suck it up and get a chronometer

no you dont

Thoughts on ROLEX SEX?

>buy 10k watch
>it is worse at showing the time than a $20 one

>>18359027
>Thoughts on ROLEX SEX?
Really something that only people who don't own Rolexes obsess over.

When you actually buy a Rolex, something interesting occurs: you realize it's just another watch. A very good watch, yes. Robust and accurate. Comfortable on the wrist. But still, just a watch.
Then you notice how obsessed everyone else is with Rolex and how mad it all seems. After all, it's just a watch.

>>18358969
Just buy a fleet of ali express watches and call it good. Pagani makes the best speedmaster clone, san martin makes the best rolex clones, baltany makes the best hamilton homages, sugess makes the best zenith homages. You can spend $1000 and have like 12 watches all MUCH better than a normal seiko.

>>18359077
>You can spend $1000 and have like 12 watches all MUCH better than a normal seiko.

Better still, if you then eventually go on to decide
>Okay, I do want to get that Rolex Explorer
You'll already have a pretty good idea of the wearing experience. This sort of thing matters more when buying larger watches.
With Panerai in particular, guys used to buy these Marina Militare homages for like a hundred bucks to see if they could live with a 44mm block of steel on their wrists.

>>18358434
KINO
I love that. Might pick one up
>13.6mm thick
Damn nevermind

First time posting in these threads and it's funny, because I only came here to ask about the alpinist. I've been considering that, or the Hamilton khaki automatic. If I can't decide then it'll be an Apple Watch.

My daily driver watch for the last 8 years has been a timex explorer 40mm. The date is stuck at 23, and it ticks loudly.

It seems that for the Hamilton khaki and the seiko alpinist, there are a dizzying number of combinations, versions, colors, so it's annoying to decide.

>>18359131
just b urself

>>18358956
mostly trying to flex, and 'feel good' in your own inner monologue. then that 'feel good' degrades over time, since it's just a piece of material accessory. then you search for another dopamine high.

>>18358956
To partially fill in the internal void.

>>18359131
Just get a baltany S202076 for $150 and save yourself the money

>>18359131
The apple watch can have any dial you want!

Got another microbrand shitter today

>>18358922
I've never heard of one that didn't produce a watch.

>>18359177
I really like the case shape, reminds me of my Weekdater (which i won't post)

>>18358987
meh, accuracy is overrated, i don't mind checking the time and fiddling with my watch once a week, in fact i enjoy it.

>>18359264
I think it's something that's hard to break and takes some time, especially if you have autism. I used to be bothered if a watch was off a few seconds a day but after a while of getting to know how off a watch is every day I'll set it a minute or so fast or slow and forget about it for a week until I swap it for another watch.

>>18358434
>date window at 4:30
dealbreaker, otherwise perfect

>>18359287
>I used to be bothered if a watch was off a few seconds a day but after a while of getting to know how off a watch is every day I'll set it a minute or so fast or slow and forget about it for a week until I swap it for another watch.
Yeah mine is a bit fast so i set it back a minute and when it's a minute fast i set it again. My watch doesn't hack so i can't set the seconds even if i wanted to, and a minite either way won't have any effect irl anyway.

>>18359313
You can barely notice it, and it's actually oriented correctly.

ive wanted an omega watch ever since i was a kid because of james bond (pierce brosnan era)
i have this memory from high school like 15-20 years ago, walking around this large mall, seeing a watch shop, and imagining myself actually walking in and buying an omega, as if i could afford it. like i only had pocket money, but i thought maybe i could buy it after getting some money for christmas or something. as if they only cost like $200. never bothered to check out the actual prices in store though and never had an actual desire to buy a watch so i never looked up the prices online either. but i think ill give it a miss.
similar story, and i knoow im blogposting and people hate that but this is for anyone whos interested, i always wanted a katana, i would draw them every day in high school and my friend who sat next to me always thought it was retarded, which it was, years later in like 2022 or so i finally said fuck it, i always wanted one, so im gonna buy it and keep it on display in my room, to remind me of the samurai warrior spirit and to motivate me while i get in shape. so i bought one from japan but i didnt want my parents to see i had a katana so now it stays hidden in my wardrobe. total waste of money. i dont think id ever wear an omega if i bought one either.

>>18359323
Why are lowercase posters always so retarded?

>>18359313
I can live with it. The number of perfect watches is vanishingly small and mostly long out of production.

>>18359323
wtf are you babbling about, jesus

>>18359177
It does have that microshitter aesthetic.

Please recommend me watches that meet the following criteria:
- Shock resistant
- Digital
- Large display
- Not bulky
I recently bought pic related and it meets all those except for the non bulky one. It would be the perfect watch for me if it didn't bulge out of my wrist so much.
I constantly have to stick my hands in tight spaces for work so the watch will take a bit of a beating but it also can't be an obstacle for me.
When I was doing my shopping I came across a few analogue watches that meet all those criteria, unfortunately sometimes I need to know the exact time down to the second and that's just not as practical with an analogue display.
>inb4 casio
Look, I understand why they are popular and why you can't wait to tell me about it, but please understand their display is absolutely atrocious. The face is a polluted mess and the digits are tiny. I've looked at pretty much the entire casio catalog and none interested me.

Hello, first time poster here. Do you guys also buy used watches? Im poor but im eyeing the Maurice Lacroix Aikon Date. It retails for 2,1k but i see someone offering a 4 year old one, hardly used for 1,1k. Should I go for it?

>>18359482
The way the shock resistance works is the metal watch internals themself sit inside of the flexible resin. Bulkiness is there for function because without the buffer you don't pass the shock resitance rating

>>18359502
Most people here exclusively buy used watches

>>18359482
Suunto Core?

>>18359504
oh ok fair enough, I did wonder if the bulkiness was part of the shock resistance, thanks for confirming it.

>>18359506
Yes, Suunto watches were on my short list. I just didn't go for them because they weren't described as shock resistant anywhere and seemed to be designed for divers. Do you know if all their models are shock resistant?

>>18359507
The Core is shock resistant yes. Not G-Shock tough, but still within MIL-STD-810 standards. That’s good enough for anything.

>>18359482
Get a pocket watch

A year and a half ago I made the best decision of my life by putting the money I set aside for a Rolex into the stock market. All of the sudden, I no longer wanted a Rolex. This isn't a hobby if you aren't tinkering with the watches, it's just being a consoomer.

>>18359532
Did you put it in blackrock and buy a san martin? Globalism, accelerate

>>18359545
I bought NVDA and AMD and kept wearing the gshock I got in middle school

>>18359551
Ahh good, ai take our jobs

>>18359565
>our
Yours maybe. I'm not something ai can replace

>>18359570
prostitute?

>>18359570
I'm in IT, we already have poopjeets to deal with and everyone has gone to MSPs. Now I'm getting a masters to specialize more.

We must continue to heal.

>>18359565
NTA, I'm thankful every day that I'm upper management at a mid-sized family owned business in an industry resistant to implementing technological advancements

>>18359586
You’re a cook at your family hot dog stand?

>>18359577
Large cap b2b salesman

what’s your favorite cartier? for me, it’s the tortue monopusher, also best tank is anglaise

>>18359706
Cartier watches don't work for me. But the platinum Tank Louis Cartier might be my favorite.

>>18359706
nobody asked
nobody cares

>>18359131
I'd get the GMT Alpinist.

Thoughts on this Sinn 104? I really like the matte finishing, but don’t really love the red second hand. Would love to hear the opinions of random retards on the internet to influence my purchasing decisions

Wait a minute, isn't their shit made in China?

>>18359736
Why is sinn the new meme, is it because it sounds le edgy

>>18359746
Yes I buy my watches solely based on the name

>>18359706
is that sub-dial on the right the power reserve?

>>18359756
Looks like a minute counter when the chronograph is running

>>18359756
Minute counter. It’s a 30 minute chronograph.

Does this look good or am i an idiot?

>>18359706
Masse misterousse mousse

>>18359778
Probably both.

>>18359746
People have been saying for years that sinn could be the next rolex.

>>18359802
Satan has won the west has fallen

>>18359778
I think they are pretty cool

>>18359824
That endlink is one piece, it's shit.

>>18359746
Yeah that's why I buy Fears.

>>18359824
Based hamclaw

>>18359323
Broken bot

>>18358199
>>18358203
>>18358209
>>18358755
Samefag janitor

>>18359482
well, garmin instinct maybe. but depends on how you define bulky

>>18359854
Plastic watches can get away with being a little bulkier simply because they're all so incredibly light as well.

>Add up the cost of my watch collection
>How the fuck is it $88k?! I don't even wear half of these.
I gotta start selling stuff.

should I buy it or wait till I get more money? I'm from a shitty country so it's already expensive for a poorfag like me

>>18359873
>should I buy it or wait till I get more money?
That depends on your financial situation. The watch will be the same now or later.

>>18359873
Do you actually like the watch?
Do you ahve a specific model in mind that you want to buy when you'll have money?

>>18359505
Nvm. I live in europe and it seems like train tix to switzerland arent that expensive and according to idealo.ch the watch itself is much cheaper there when its on a sale.

>>18359873
It's a seiko. Just get an ali express watch with the same movement and a better case and crystal.

>>18359778
Keep in mind that it uses the cheapest form of superluminova: c1. It's white, but it's not bright nor does it last long.
The industry standards are C3 or BGW9 luminova, or at the very least one of the new meme "X" versions of C1 etc.
The german brands penny pinch on lume, probably because they all share the same dial manufacturer that can't be bothered changing the type of luminova they order from the swiss/seiko.
Chink dive and field watches come with c3 or bgw9 for <$100, but sinn, damasko and all the others in germany insist on the budget lume. They're a total joke.

>>18359907
It is crazy the amount of features they give you for the money that a watch that costs thousands doesn't have. The best thing that can come from chink watches is "luxury" brands actually start making better products and using materials and tooling quality that justify the price

ID please.

>>18359974
JapGoogle says this

>>18359974
Interesting. It might be a GUB (Glashütter Uhrenbetriebe) Spezimatic from East Germany in the 1970's.

>>18359974
>>18360020
>Spezimatic ( portmanteau of 'Spezial' and 'Automatic') is a brand name for a series of men's wristwatches with automatic winding made by VEB Glashütter Uhrenbetriebe in the GDR .
>The Spezimatic was the GDR's second mass-produced automatic watch . Between 1964 and 1980, the GUB produced over 3.7 million units. >The GUB 74 and GUB 75 movements were installed in the Spezimatic watches.
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spezimatic

Happy New Year and a belated Merry Christmas! Wishing you all happiness and good health for 2025! Be excellent to each other!

What % of your income are you willing to spend on a watch you consider expensive?

>>18360032
0.5%

>>18359778
It's cool but damn is it way too expensive for what it is

>>18360049
200%.
If you won't buy a watch on credit then there is no point in owning it. You will not have earned it and it will merely show how much of an unambitious sucker you really are, pinching pennies so you can afford a lesser, second hand version of the watch you actually wanted.
It's all about the grind, the grit, the determination to repay the brand new watch you have on your wrist.
Make sure to take out the highest interest loan you can find too.
It will radiate status once people see your expensive Rolex or AP and learn that you repaid it with high interest.
You should always be repaying at least three loans on consumer goods (cars do not count)

Kofe time.

>>18360170
Based watch slave.

>>18360170
It's a great way to build credit as well. But the smart thing to do is take your first watch and leverage it as collateral for a second loan on that and buy another watch with that loan and then leverage that watch as collateral for another loan. In this way you can get more watches and take on more watch debt. Rich people do it all the time. If possible you should be paid in watches rather than cash and just use these watches to buy more watches. This avoids wasting watch money on income taxes as loans are tax free.

This shit is SO fucking UGLY
I get why they’re so laughed at

PATEL FILTHIPPE
KYS LMFAO

>>18360254
I used to like nautilus and not understand why someone would prefer the aquanaut, but now I'm the opposite. Aquanaut is actually pretty good.

>>18360255
Imagine wearing something with such a pretentious name. “AQUANAUT” HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Go find a job you miserable nerd

>>18360259
I don't care so much what a watch is called as long as it looks and feels cool. "datejust" is a really fucking retarded name but it's still the best selling luxury watch ever.

uhm…… INVICTAbros???

>>18360265
Invicta legitimately has the saddest arc of surviving old school swiss watch companies.
I don't know how "sad" it actually is for them, they might have more money now than they ever had in their history, but in order to do that they went from a proper watchmaker with good heritage to making $80 ripoffs of everyone else's watches.

>>18360269
I would argue Russian brands often have even sadder arcs

>>18360269
They cope while dying tears with $100 bills

>>18360270
What is an example of a sad russian watchmaker story arc?

>>18360032
Sorry fren, you mistakenly posted in the wrong thread. Here you go: >>18358394

>>18360255
>>18360260
I prefer the Aquanaut as well. The idea of a luxury sports watch on a rubber strap has some real casual appeal. I'm also not the biggest fan of bracelets to begin with.

>>18360282
I'm not against the idea of an aquanaut with a bracelet.

Can I wear an aplinist spb121 to a wedding or should I cop something dressier?

>>18360290
Stop posting this vomit-inducing shitter you fucking low-IQ spammer

I’ve started to hate watches. The internet sphere has completely and definitively poisoned this hobby and there is no come-back.

>>18360288
I think it loses a lot of its character on the bracelet. picrel

>>18360290
You can wear whatever you want. Every wedding I've ever been to, I'm shocked at how poor some people dress.

>>18360305
Ugly as fuck.

What's something as versatile as a Rolex Explorer but won't get me mugged if I'm in London? I just want 1 watch I can wear with anything

>>18360314
Also preferably cheaper

>>18360314
>>18360315
The ExplOOOrer is not even versatile, unless by versatile you mean soulless.

Who's this asshole that escaped from /wt/?

>>18360290
Nobody will care about your watch unless it is something outrageous

>>18360314
If you want an Explorer, then nothing else will ever feel like anything other than a cope.

As for not getting mugged, it's best to just stay out of London altogether. There's nothing there worthwhile anyway.

>>18360314
Do you care about the brand?

>>18360319
Who’s the asshole? Point to the single posts.

>>18360330

>>18360259
>>18360254

>>18360323
I know 2 people who've had their rolex stolen
>>18360325
I live there and cant move out (big 3 accounting firm)
>>18360327
No

>>18360319
Probably an avatarfag who's feeling lonely. If he can make this place as miserable as /wt/, maybe he's hoping we'll come back.

>>18360331
Bittercel's posts are pretty recognizable.

>>18360331
Kek, that’s me. I once again confirm I find Patek Filthippe disgusting.

>>18360333
If you're that scared and you can't leave, then don't buy a Rolex. Don't buy any watch. You have a phone. Sorry mate.

In my experience, though, people who get robbed are usually doing something fucking stupid, like getting wasted in public. Criminals only attack soft targets.

>>18360314
If you need something as reliable as a mountain look up Heron Marinor. Hardened steel makes it nigh indestructable.

>>18360339
Such a pity it looks like a generic CAD shitter of today. Have you ever checked boutiques windows? They’re full of soulless watches like that.

>>18360338
Perhaps you're right
>>18360339
Too sporty for me, I need it to work with suits and business wear primarily (whilst also working with t-shirt & jeans) so a diver is out of the question

>>18360342
I disagree completely.

>>18360345
Oh shit, nice Seamaster 30--oh...

>>18360345
Because you’ve never checked boutiques windows and you buy your shit from the internet like a well domesticated bugman.

>>18360344
>I need it to work with suits and business wear primarily
Then you either buy an F91W or a 1960s 34mm solid gold Audemars Piguet you dumb RETARD

>>18360352
Go away.

>>18360333
Seiko 5 snxs79

>>18360354
Did I hurt your feelings and you’re unable to criticize my advice?

>>18360314
>>18360315
Tissot Gentleman if you dont care about the Chinese parts or prestige, you can just buy another if it gets stolen, lost, damaged etc if you're that nervous

>>18360355
To small (7.25 inch wrist), also would like sapphire

>>18360360
Tissot IS a prestige brand, it just lost all of it in the past decade like Rolex, Panerai, Omega, Longines, Breitling, Bulova. It’s the same downward arc for every brand.

>>18360360
The problem is not the watch getting stolen, it's getting robbed. If you get the shit kicked out of you or get drugged in order for someone to steal your Tissot, the loss of the Tissot itself is not the problem.

>>18360361
>sapphire
So you want an explorer without paying for an explorer. Steal one from your coworkers

>>18360344
You can wear more subtle dive watches in 2025 with suits, its not the 20th century anymore. Only fedora tipping reddit gentlemen would care

You can’t spell the word coworker without spelling the word cow LMFAO

>>18359132
Thanks.

>>18359158
The bezel looks too busy.

>>18359166
facts

>>18359735
you don't think it looks too dressy?

>>18360370
>compass bezel
>huge crown guard
>2 crowns
>gmt complication

No, its not too dressy

>>18360339
>he does it for free

>>18360370
>bezel is a black ring with 12 symbols, 8 of which are small dashes
>t-t..tHe BeZeL lOoKs tOo BuSyy D:

>>18360373
I see.

>>18360381
I'm coming from a timex explorer. Honestly just considering buying another timex explorer instead of any fancy watch, but I wanted to try the automatic meme.

>>18360382
>but I wanted to try the automatic meme.
Understandable, but there's really no point.
There's a massive value gap between the Timex shitters you get at Wal-Mart and the top level stuff where nothing is worth it.

No Seiko is worth it right now. Buy an AliExpress chinkwatch and enjoy it for what it is.

>>18360290
Keep in mind most people won't be wearing a watch so having something on the wrist is already enough, really.

I’ll be in Poland for a few weeks for work. Any chances of finding cool or unique watches? Or should I just pool together my sheckles for a Tooter from a duty free store on the way back home?

>>18360512
>Any chances of finding cool or unique watches?
In Poland?

No, save your money for the Rolex you actually want. Skip the Tootercope step.

>>18360512
Unless you really go the flea market route and find some soviet era stuff (which you shouldn't unless you know enough about them to make sure you're not getting a franken) then Poland isn't a place where you'll find anything you wouldn't find elsewhere, or some better deals.

>>18360344
Get a black 36mm sea lander from Christopher Ward

>>18360524
If you're going to bother with a Ch Ward, just get a Chinese watch.

>>18360254
meh that particular model is just an outdated 80s grandad style

>>18360534
It's so funny for people who've been into watches for more than ten years. In the 2000s, Patek was considering killing off their steel sports watches due to poor sales.

In some ways the Nautilus hype of the last few years is a lot like Panerai in the mid-2000s. You wore one to prove that you had the connections to be able to get one. Whether the watch looked good was irrelevant. They were so hot and they were made in such small quantities.

>>18360344
>Too sporty for me, I need it to work with suits and business wear primarily (whilst also working with t-shirt & jeans) so a diver is out of the question
Hamilton Murph

>>18360314
>What's something as versatile as a Rolex Explorer but won't get me mugged if I'm in London? I just want 1 watch I can wear with anything

Nomos Neomatik Club Sport on the bracelet. (picrel, there are many dial color options)
37mm across, just 8.4mm thick, in-house movement, 200m WR.
Easy to swap onto a strap and make it much dressier if need be.

>>18360575
forgot to attach pic.

>>18360575
Ah, the homos.

>>18360578
What the fug lmao

>>18360579
>>18360582
Bittercel predictable as always.

>>18360583
The watch looks like something from mvmt. That case and a BrACeLeT on a nomos completely ruin the minimalism the brand is known for. It looks confused, scared, like a fat teenager with skinny legs at a school dance.

>>18360578
You also "forgot" to mention that abomination costs over three thousand dollars.

/nawt/ was good for a couple of weeks, but then the bittercels discovered it. I thought they'd be happy to just piss on the avatarfags in peace without people cluttering their shithole with questions about watches.
I cannot, for the life of me, understand why they hate people talking about watches so much.

>>18360590
Kys faggot.

>>18360590
Anon that nomos is a fucking abomination. If he wants a gada that can dress up and down that is durable then he needs a strap monster not a fucking BRACELET. He wanted duribility and less sporty which is why I said hamilton murph.

>>18360588
No it doesn't. Like most watches apart from Rolex, everything is available from ADs with hefty discounts. It should run about 2800 dollars.

How about this, though: find us another watch that's that thin has at least 200m water resistance, and an in-house automatic movement, at any price point.

>>18360596
No, it's not the Nomos, it's been this whole thread.
>kys kys kys lmfao lmfao kys kys
That little boy and his need for (You)s is just so fucking tiresome.

You want to criticize Nomos, fine, be my guest. No watch is above critique. I don't care about that.

>>18360603
Oh ok, that nomos is just insanely bad

>>18360596
>which is why I said hamilton murph.
Anon, if you're going to recommend a Hamilton, just have him buy a Chinkwatch. At least the Chinese are honest about their stuff being made in China.
You can buy a Baltany for a fraction of a Murph and get identical quality.

>>18360609
The only Nomos that I sort of like is the 33mm Tangente ref.123
That one is a pretty close rendition of the watch Bauhaus watch from the 1930s in terms of proportion.

I still wouldn't buy it, but it's neat anyway.

>>18360613
If I were going to recommend a baltany I would do this one

>>18360598
>It should run about 2800 dollars
Unless you want to see that thing they call movement for some reason through the case back in which case it will cost 3k.
>find us another watch that's that thin has at least 200m water resistance, and an in-house automatic movement, at any price point.
Easiest thing i've ever done in my life, here is this Yema, which is cheaper, prettier and has an in-house microrotor caliber that's about 44 thousand times better than homos' caliber shaped diarrhea.
>200m water resistance
Why. What situation could demand more than 100m.
But regardless the price i would rather have genital wart than that homos.

>>18360620
>Yamon ebauche garbage cope
You can't be fucking serious? That's retarded.

>>18360624
He's obviously kidding, anon. I mean, no one would seriously ever recommend a Yema for any reason. No one could possibly be THAT retarded. Be realistic.

>>18360624
>>18360627
I accept your defeat.

>>18360632
>LALALA CANT HEAR YOU AND IM RETARDED THEREFORE I WIN

Imagine being so brain-rotted by memes that you internalize them into a seething hatred of a watch company. This >>18360620 kid is seriously shitting his pants with rage because someone mentioned ... a watch.

>>18360619
Have them swap out the rotating bezel for a fixed one and you've got the Murph.
Baltany is usually pretty good about allowing parts swaps.

>>18360633
Anything else? Like actual arguments and not farting out your stepfather's cum in a puddle of water?

>>18360635
Bet it's the same wristlet retard that got absolutely dunked by avatardfaggots in /wt/ lmfao.

>>18360640
Nah, I'm done with you and your bizarre fart-shit analogies. You're boring.
Don't bother responding. (You will anyway, though. You can't control yourself.)

>>18360643
based bitterchad

>>18360642
Good post. Really.

>>18360643
Of course not. There is none and there can't be any since only absolute braindead microcephalic would suggest anyone to buy homos.

>>18360643
>(You will anyway, though. You can't control yourself.)
...and he did, in less than a minute.

>>18360649
Fucking KEK
Desperate faggot literally can't stop eating shit even if his life depended on it

>>18360619
So I actually looked this one up.

>38m x 43mm x 12mm
>Sapphire crystal
>Ceramic bezel insert
>NH38 movement
>165 bucks

Unless you desperately want hand-finishing or precious metal or other stuff that comes once you cross the 10k price barrier (and even then it's no guarantee), why would you ever recommend someone spend 1-6k on an entry-level luxury shitter or microshitter?

The name on the dial? Does anyone really care about "Baltany" less than "Christopher Ward" or "Baltic" or "Certina" or "Hamilton"? They're all fucking made up and normies only know a tiny handful of brand names anyway.

My watch corrections
Cheap seiko bros
Spb143
Seiko 5 gmt
Seiko alpinist

Luxury
Rolex datejust 36 fluted tt
Rolex exp 36
Omega speedmaster

I feel like I don't "need" anything else. I love the speedmaster design but the gmt is more useful to me so I might sell the speedmaster for the Tudor coke gmt but I feel like it might be a downgrade.

>>18360654
It also has AR coating unlike hamilton

>>18360659
Ah yeah. Good point.

>>18360657
>Rolex datejust 36 fluted tt
>Rolex exp 36
>Omega speedmaster

I feel like there's a lot of overlap here. These feel like watches where any one of them would be a person's sole watch, not part of a collection.

Me personally, I would get a neo-vintage 16570 Explorer II instead of the Speedmaster and Explorer I. That's a larger (but not too large) sports watch that also has the dual timezone functionality you were talking about.
That would be a nice complement to a two-tone Datejust.

Or, you could take the money saved by buying the 16570 and put it towards making your dressier watch nicer.
>Exp1 ($7,350.-) + ($7,000.-) = $14,350.-
>a really good 16570 will be about $6,500.-
That leaves you with $7,850 in your budget. Add that to what you would spend on the DJ ($13,700.-) and you're close to being able to get a neo-vintage Day-Date. That would be a hell of a pair of watches.

>>18360583
I am bittercel (all the watches you talk about fucking suck) and I suggest you go to the braindea- uh, sorry, to the avatarfag general if you constantly obsess over imaginary friends (like me)

>>18360590
>>18360598
>ALLTHEPEOPLEWHODISAGREEWITHMEMUSTBEBITTERGHOSTS
LMFUCKINGKEKAROOLEL&LMFAO KYS BRAINDEAD RETARD

>>18360676
I don't know why you followed us here. We literally gave you /wt/ to do with as you pleased.

>>18360690
BITTERCEL IS NOT AN AVATURD YOU FUCKING BRAINLET AVATURDS HATE BITTERCEL BECAUSE BITTERCEL LOVES GOOD WATCHES YOU POST CAD SHITTERS HOMOS AND MEMES JUST KYS OR GO BACK >>/afwt/

This guy is deeply unwell.

>>18360690
>I don't know why you followed us here.
It's obvious. He's here for trolling. Making a second thread just gave him a second place to make people watch him smear shit all over his face. Mods don't seem to care.

>>18360669
Also, If you're now talking about spending 20k on a watch, you're now in ALS, Patek, VC territory.

An EXP2 and an ALS Saxonia or vintage Calatrava would be pretty incredible

>>18360693
Keep posting CAD shitters for eternity then, keep doing it! Again! Again!

bittertardellocel

>>18360366
Or just buy a pagani or san martin and get sapphire for cost. Seiko is a horrific deal now

>>18360706
Not to mention that the SM and Pagani have Seiko movements in them.
If it's really important to you, you can take it to any watchmaker and they can easily adjust it to be within 5spd. They're not inherently inaccurate movements, they're just not adjusted out of the Seiko factory and the Chinese don't bother adjusting them either.

>>18360706
>>18360710
He is going to find an excuse to not buy them. He wants an explorer.

>>18360719
True. That was one of the first responses to his post >>18360325

However, the discussion of the state of chinkshitters is pretty interesting, particularly in terms of features that were once considered exclusive to only the top brands.

If you were to take >>18360619 this, for 165 bucks. Give it to a watchmaker and have him go through it with a fine toothed comb, get it perfectly clean and adjusted to within COSC specs, for another, say 100 bucks. Then spend another 100 bucks or so to get a really nice, high-quality leather strap.

You'd have something that other companies would charge at least 4-5 thousand dollars for, not 4-5 hundred.

>>18360657
I also have basically zero interest in the submariner, dreadfully boring
>>18360669
Yeah I've been in and out of wanting an explorer ii. I'm picky about wanting sels and preferably papers so I'm not getting it for 6500 unless the prices drop further but 8k is doable. I also don't really like full gold watches for a day date but I like the watch itself. I also would love the original neo vintage coke gmt master but I don't really think it's worth the triple the Tudor costs and almost double the explorer ii costs.

>>18360735
The tudor black bay root beer looks better

>>18360735
I think a good condition, solid endlink, pre-ROLEXROLEX 16570 would be worth it, even at 8k. Those are great watches.
I'm not a huge fan of the Tudor Coke, myself. That case is so slab-sided and ungainly.

You could get a full dress watch like >>18360700 suggested.
I think he's right. A second watch should different enough to avoid overlap. I've owned multiple Rolexes in the past and found myself just wearing one constantly while the others sat in the box for months, if not years, on end. Ultimately, they're all basically the same watch.

On the complete other side of the coin, you could save a ton of money by getting the Tudor Coke and something like a Tank Must as a dress watch.

>>18360563
I was considering getting the new braceleted murph

>>18360759
I would get a third party bracelet from Strapcode or something. Hamilton bracelets are almost always terrible quality.

>>18360764
As my wrists are around 7.25-7.5 inches I was considering getting the 42mm and slapping a third party bracelet on anyway, the official bracelet is only available on the 38 which is probably too small. The uncle seiko / straps ones literally say "UNCLE" on though which is fucking stupid

An anon a while back asked for updates on the casios, here’s the brass one finished up and with a strap

>>18360619
Baltany puts the word chronometer on a watch with NH34 inside.

>>18360793
Speaking of which, what would be the cheapest officially certified chronometer? I think Chris Wart has something for about 1k.

>>18360805
I think Certina and Tissot have some really cheap COSC certified watches for under a grand.

>>18360767
Based. That's the original plastic crystal right?

>>18360103
At least its not a ripoff of submariner

>>18360808
custom cut sapphire

>>18360759
Only fats like bracelets

>>18360806
Certina only has quartz chronometers which obviously doesn't count, but tissot does have a heritage 1938 model that is about $600 on jomashop.

>>18360805
Certified by whom? Anybody can put a seagull st19 movement in something at least for now. Seagull is changing to only distribute large orders so you will not be seeing microbrands with seagull chronos anymore soon.

yes or no

>>18360824
D-do you know what a chronometer is?

>>18360829
Oh I read it as chronograph

>>18360831
Certified chronograph?

>>18360832
Yes certified by whom, sure. Who is the 3rd party they pay to time their timers? Who puts their little certification logo on the box?

>>18360839
They just use a casio to see if they're accurate

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