/fa/ - Fashion

First for true gentry. Wish you all a nice dram this evening.

>>18137323
The Day-Date is one of the few Rolex models that actually looks good on a strap.

>>18137330
But why would you bother with a strap when it comes on the best bracelet in the game?

>>18137348
Sometimes you want to mix things up and the factory straps are pretty elegant. Agree, though, the President bracelet is great.

made a couple small retard scratches on the underside of the lugs while removing the springbars from my explorer. they're not that deep and aren't really noticeable, but they'll bug the shit out of me compared to scratches from regular wear. any easy way to get rid of these at home?

>>18137356
You can file out the scratches then cover them up with increasingly fine grades of sandpaper, but you're better off just getting used to them.
It's way too easy to make the problem a million times worse until you get some experience with metal refinishing.

>>18137354
I think the white with roman numerals would go good with more strap than the green dial. The champagne looks more classic and works best with the bracelet but it feels less versatile.

>>18137360
I'll probably just learn to live with it and start to feel better when I put some more actual scratches on the watch from wearing it. right now I'm just seething because the only scratches on it are from getting lazy with removing the bracelet.

>>18137356
Yea get some Cape Cod polishing cloth.

>>18137323
The 18238 is probably the best value Rolex you can get from a GM.

Weight = 140 grams
Gold price today = $100 per gram
18k / 24k = 75% or 25% difference
$14000-25% = $10500

The gold alone is worth $10500, and these can be had on from a trusted GM for $14k-16k.

in 20 years the monochrome DJ41 will be king

>>18137374
It's too big for your wrist and it looks ugly. You've wasted your money.

>>18137374
not even getting into if a 41 fits you (it doesn't), the proportions are completely fucked. OPs, datejusts, and explorers really need to be 36 to look right proportionally.

>>18137381
Yea it sucks so much, only morons who fell for the marketing buys them.

>most people agree that 41 for men and 36 for women in...
>WUS
>Rolexforum
>r/watches
>r/rolex
>troonchan on the other hand...

>look at some videos on EFV-100 before I get it
>everyone praises it
>everyone complains the bracelet is bad quality & really rattly
FUCK

>>18137381
The DJ41 comes from the worst era of Rolex: the 2000s. During that decade they've also released :
>the Sky Dweller
>the Air King 40mm
>the Explorer 39mm
>the Yacht Master 2
>the Milgauss 40mm
>two tone Daytona
It's also the decade of the maxi cases, polished center links, ceramic bezel and tacky shit like pearl dials or whatever. Everything that still sucks with Rolex nowadays literally comes from that cursed decade. I particularly despise the DJ41 because it's a textbook example of Rolex denying their own design principles. Fuck whoever buys that shit and fuck Rolex for keeping it in their catalogue.

>>18137399
Fortunately, someone at Rolex has an ounce of sense because the Milgauss and YM2 have been discontinued, while the Explorer 36mm was resurrected.

In general, though, the 2000s were the worst era for watches overall, not just Rolex.

ID? Kurt Russell wears it in Big Trouble in Little China.

>>18137399
>>18137401
Rolex sells what people want, they don't cater to people who sits around and complain about watches all day.

>>18137323
Why would anyone ever buy a Datejust when the Day-Date can be had in white gold or platinum?

>>18137381
The problem is they just increased the case size. The lug width should have been increased to allowed the tips of the lugs flow into the bracelet instead of just abruptly stopping.

Everything else is because the movement is too small. The minute numbers on the minute track let Rolex move the indices further in so they would line up with the date aperture. But the dial couldn't be made too much bigger otherwise the cyclops would be way too far inboard so they made the bezel incredibly wide instead.

If they wanted to keep the proportions of the Datejust, they should have created a whole new movement.

>>18137402
Aquastar Benthos II

just pulled the trigger on this little shitter

>>18137440
What's the deal with chronographs
I fucking hate how they look but they're very popular
How frequently is that actually useful to the average person?

Come on poorfags, post some wristshots, I wanna see some nice shitters.

>>18137492
Older pic, but I still like it.

>>18137492
I know it's a pretty heated topic right now, but i prefer the 36mm datejust
>>18137519
Nice rolex friend, suits you well

>>18137524
Anyone can like anything they want, it's the fucking idiots that try to be a nazi about it. I'm pretty sure its just bittercel though. That being said...

Pretty old pic bought for $4500 in Japan.

I hate cyclops lenses

I'm probably going to sound like bittercel here but I kinda don't get it.

>36mm tt DJ MSRP 13k+ tx = 14k+
>36mm DD 18238 = 15-17k

The gold in the DD alone is close to 10k just by itself. Why buy a modern DJ at 36mm when you can go for a 36mm DD for very close to the same price?

>>18137538
>>18137530
This is not a modern Datejust, its from 1997.

>>18137530
>Anyone can like anything they want, it's the fucking idiots that try to be a nazi about it. I'm pretty sure its just bittercel though. That being said...
If you followed the last thread, it's quite the opposite. Anon asked
>36 or 41 DJ
and when he started getting responses he didn't like, he got mad. For once, bittercel had nothing to do with it.

>>18137538
Because most likely there's not 10k worth of gold in that watch, plus since you still lose money, that's not all that relevant, as the finished product is still "worth more"
As such it just comes down to which you like more, and I personally would wear the former over the latter

>>18137538
>Why buy a modern DJ at 36mm when you can go for a 36mm DD for very close to the same price?
Some people like the newer movement technology.

For me, though, the DD was a no-brainer. (I'm OP)

>>18137541
>>18137542
They look identical, what's most important is the crown and Rolex look.

>Because most likely there's not 10k worth of gold in that watch.
140 grams on the 18238, let's say the movement is 20 grams. 120 @ $75/gram is still $9000. The DD is a no-brainer for me as well.

Does Chrono24 differentiate between different IP addresses when factoring in popularity? If not, I think I've been driving up the view count on this one watch I've been keeping an eye on.

>>18137544
you calculated 24kt dingus

>>18137544
>Members of the English-language The Rolex Forums picked a Rolex Day-Date and determined the weight of its gold components. (Note: These are only approximations, as the exact weight varies from reference to reference). Attached is an overview of the corresponding gold values:

Case: 18.5 grams (13.88 g fine gold)
Case back: 7.21 grams (5.41 g fine gold)
Bezel: 5.30 grams (3.98 g fine gold)
Bracelet: 68.85 grams (51.64 g fine gold)

~75g of fine gold.

Does anyone know anything (anything) about Casio's STING series? I can't find any relevant information about their models or history. Much less about its value or purchase sites. Apparently they were released only for the Japanese market.

>>18137453
Autists love timing everything so they can feel in control. It's like a fidget spinner but for adults.

>>18137492
It may be shit, but it is my shit. Looking forward to modding this shitta soon! Charming watch, do reccomend

>>18137762
As you can see one of the lume pips fell out, because I was being a retard with it a dropped it from a high level onto concrete, still tickin!

Kofe time.

>>18137769
Nice one

>>18137769
Kofe time

if any of our famous avatarfags could reply to me it would make my day thanks

>>18137823
There are no avatarfags, only anons with recognizable collections.

Solar diver question guy from a couple threads ago
Forgot to add another criterion: sapphire glass
So are there any affordable solar divers with sapphire glass?

>>18137750
Too thick, should have gone for the classic variant.

>>18137888
https://www.seikowatches.com/us-en/products/prospex/sne593
check the diff colorways

>>18137888
>>18137907
https://www.seikowatches.com/ph-en/products/prospex/sne583
another one

I'm a gay twink and need a watch, what should I get? I have like 300 USD to spend and small wrists.

>>18137918
Casio f91-w and you can save most of that $300. My favorite twink named cockwatch wears one (miss you vi)

>>18137923
I was gonna do that if I didn't find anything I liked more. Nice Al-Qaeda kinda look.

>>18137905
Beauty
>>18137918
https://timex.eu/products/marlin-hand-wound-x-snoopy-floral-34mm-leather-strap-watch-tw2v91200

>>18137401
2000s were pretty shit for aesthetics in general, oversized puffy suits, smol cars, etc

thoughts on this limited edition ?

>>18137784
Thanks, fren.

Haven't posted my penis in a while,so here it is.

>>18137727
They have a history of keeping the best for themselves, see the entry level Oceanus models

>>18137955
Nice penis anon

>>18137588
Why not just buy gold instead?

>>18137949
meh

>>18137957
ty anon

>>18137949
Like the bezel, hands are okay, hate the dial and buttons

>>18137959
>>18137962
the original for comparison. objectively better looking but there's something about that tornado one...

>>18137969
>subjecting my eyes to this garbage
Let me educate you faggot.
see how the middle plate is a separate piece with trinity tier beveling?
>shitizen could never
You see how the black polished (heat blued on LE) screws sit in a beveled recess
>shitizen could never
Look at how every single one of the 8 via terminals sit in their own beveled recess, while shitizen just cuts out a ugly square
>shitizen could never
see how the 9f has an actual trimmer because it's meant to be serviced
>shitizen could never
see how there's a discreet retaining spring anchoring shock susceptible jewels
>shitizen could never
see how the 9f doesn't sit in a PLASTIC FUCKING SPACER
>shitizen could never
You probably didn't, but if you actually bought that thing you are genuinely the definition of a midwit. Simply too stupid to understand what makes something good, and yet not dumb enough to follow the advice of actual experts
Whenever you wear that thing, you're gonna look down at that stupid turkey on the dial and think about how much of a retard you are.

>>18137975
Post your 9f

>>18137975
>44gs
nice looking watch
>aq4080-52
very nice looking watch

why are you upset anon

>>18137978
Don't have a 9F.

>>18137994
>wearing it upside down
???

>>18137997
He doesn't buy watches to tell time, he buys watches so he can hire whores to pose with them in photos. It's the saddest, most narcissistic parasocial midlife crisis you've ever seen.

>>18137998
I genuinely can't tell if that's real or not since I don't come around these parts often, but this is an autistic enough place that it could be true

>>18137975
Impressive. Very nice.
Let's see Paul Anon's GS

>>18137994
Sad

>>18138002
I came a little in my pants

>>18138002
Do you have a shitizen haq shitter?

>>18138012
I have a few shitters, yeah.

>>18138017
That's a nice watch

>>18138024
Thanks.

>>18137998
Cope. Post your watch. Oh wait.. You can't!

>>18138027
If he did you'd just nitpick it

>>18138043
I'm not whoretadello or >>18138027 but the anons who insult him never post their own watches.

>>18138054
Not sure why you'd shill for a movement so heavily that you don't like enough to buy

>>18138055
What?

>>18138058
9f
If you likes it that much you probably buy one. It's not like it's $$$

>>18138058
He said he's not sure why you'd shill for a movement so heavily, yet still don't like enough to buy a watch with said movement (9f)

>>18138061
>>18138062
I never mentioned a movement or anything, and I'd never buy some poorfag quartz shit kek. I was saying that the people who make fun of whoretadello do not post their watches.

>>18138072
9fs are great
You should get that new titanium white dial

Any Breitchads ITT ?

How big is the QOL increase with a radio controller watch?
Thinking of buying an eco drive, and the normal models are around €200 while the radio controlled ones double that at just above €400.
Is there enough of an improvement to justify the price?

>>18138092
>radio controller
*radio controlled, ofc

>>18138077
I can't get into faces where the numbers are cut off. Just seems like poor planning at that point. Cool color though

>>18138092
>>18138093
I have a 5610 and a lineage that are both radio controlled. the 5610 syncs up perfectly every time (as far as I know anyway) and the lineage has never successfully synced. if it's a quartz watch you would probably be fine with manually setting it once or twice a year.

>>18138098
Thanks, good to know

>>18138097
I hear you and have thought about it before and after purchasing I do think the dial would look WAY to busy if all numbers were on dial with the monophase/calendar and chronos

>>18138077
Mmm

oh fuck shitteranon is back

>>18138112

The biggest bitter shitter fact is that whoretadello himself is bittercel. What's the endgame? To gain sympathy and support from regulars here. Absolutely despicable behaviour. Makes it even worse knowing he could've just quit the game and bought his affordable grail with the money he spent on shitters.

>>18138054
If they did, would that make him less of a loser?

>>18138098
>lineage has never successfully synced
In what sense?

Thoughts on picrel?

>>18138139
Depends on if it's a real VC or a "real" VC.

>>18138140
What do you mean

just another shitizen

>>18138077
>Hey is that a Pat- oh nevermind...

>>18138133
well I think it may have synced successfully at some point before it got to me, but it has not worked for me at all. I've tried setting it by a window overnight, manually syncing, throughout the day, and even walking outside after midnight to manually sync. the hand goes between W and R a few times and then after a minute or two moves over to N. I live in phoenix az so I would think the reception from fort collins would be strong but alas.

Good evening fellow gents.

>>18138173
Only mort can save us from this mogging

>>18137951
quartz yes?

bro where is my vostok suka blyat, i ordered it almost month ago and its still in transition

>>18138192
It has a mechanical gear train and it's powered by the sun.

>>18138145
all u need if ur a swimmer

>>18138194
Mine took closer to two months when I ordered it, and that was before the spevial military operation

>>18137492
The mesh really suits it

client today had a nice rolex day date and holy fuck I can't believe anyone would buy anything else if they had the means.

>>18138262
Rolex, specifically new Rolex, is gay

>>18138103
it looks way too busy now desu

>>18137492

got it back after six weeks

just like new

>>18138077
here

>brand new Patrimony $25k
>used Patrimony $3k to $15k for the current model
I know this watch is one of those 'you need to buy this first to unlock the Overseas,' but I think it's a good dress watch. My only issue is if I buy it used at $10k will it stay like that or will it start dropping more. I've seen some on Chrono24 go for less than a grand but those are SS and quartz. VC just doesn't sound like the holy trinity when their watches drop so much in value.

>>18138309
what's with your arm bro?
are you wearing it before the bump on your wrist or what's going on

>>18138352
Traditional is better

>>18138316
NICE Ice Blue

>>18138354
I broke my wrist I gotta ice it

>>18137994
Wow who is that your wife?

It's the new whore he's paying to be his girlfriend, don't respond to him.

>>18137994
Cool watch but that's a man's paw.

>>18138190
>Only mort can save us from this mogging
Who's going to save us from the samefagging, though?

>>18138262
the DD is my retirement watch. I'll sell the rest of my watches and just beat the absolute shit out of it everyday

>>18138143
There's some autist on these threads who really hates Richemont (most likely got denied a job), if him, he probably means pre Richmond VC.

>>18138077
2mm too big

When do you get to a financial point in your life where you can actually justify 10 or 20k on a watch? House is paid off, I have some investments but nowhere near enough to live off of, and don't own a car. Only make $80-85 per year.

>>18138519
I guess whenever you decide you wouldn't miss $20k

we hired some new boomer at work who has a bunch of really beat up 1950s swiss watches from obscure, now defunct, brands that he likes showing me

what are the odds he has something really cool that he just doesn't wear to work?

>>18138531
100%

>>18138526
Man, I miss having an extra $20 every time I have to spend it even on shit I need like food, or electricity or beer. .

>>18138221
nice, I also like to mesh it up.

>>18138309
This one is so cool

>>18138485
Based

>>18138500
Nice

>>18138519
Most 'watch people' just spunk the money as soon as they can scrape it together

>>18138543
Nice, haven't seen that model before. Mesh is comfy

>>18137323
been visiting a few watch stores lately, comparing watches next to each others, and i have to say, GS are the ones who look the best irl, they mog Rolexes.
The ones that are the most underwhelming irl are Omegas. They look kind of cheap.

>>18138221
Personal favorite itt. Weird compliment, but you have nice looking hands

>>18138281
Unironically mogs AP Offshore

>>18138519
It's not about the money, it's about sending a message.

>>18138558
thank you brother

>>18138564
what the fuck are those retarded prices

>>18138564
Honestly I think if people just look at the Speedy or 300 then yea its kinda underwhelming. They're supposedly 'tool watches' but people are never going to go work the fields with them. This on the other hand can be just about anything and looks amazing in real life. It's also surprisingly thin when I tried it on at the airport.

I'll probably get it used I just don't know what color I want, it's a toss up between blue and green. I seriously hated the black one at the airport though, fo patina is retarded.

>>18138565
Thank you!

>>18138612
HK$

>>18138092
like the other dude said it's jap quartz so it should be around 15s per month no real need for auto sync

Kofe time.

>>18138688
Based

>>18138519
Is it 80 before or after taxes?

>>18138519
> A Manga Artist Who Has Had Four Works Animated Went into Debt for 50 Million Yen (320K USD) as a Result of Being Addicted to Wristwatches

There is no justifiable income. Higher income means higher credit line to buy a better one

>>18138688
Holy based.

>>18138519
You just have to be honest with yourself. If you desire a watch, and usually there's like one or max two reasons why you do (like you think it's the greatest looking thing you've ever seen etc., you don't overly rationalize these questions). Then it's pretty much as simple as this >>18138526, if you're not bothered by the price tag, you can buy it, and you'll know pretty much immediately if that's the case

>>18138564
Wait until you get a closer look at a GS with a loupe.

Where do I start with seiko modding? Where do I look?

>>18138519
If you have no serious debts and have 80K/year, but you are still hesitant to get a watch over 10K you should mark an achievement.with the purchase.
As >>18138526 said, buy only if you can imbue higher value to the watch than the fiat

>>18138743
Any watch that Tim hasn't reviewed- I can't take seriously.

>>18138744
Milgauss go for 6K
And they're like 15mm thick.

Tempted bros..

>>18138750
Who the fuck is Tim?

>>18138786
If you love this watch, email us.

>>18138380

>>18138750
Even Tim doesn't get access to the most exclusive pieces.

>>18138500
Finally I've found someone in a watch related space that doesn't have significantly more hairy arms than me
Like what the fuck is up with that

>>18138801
High T tends to do that.

>>18138616
The burgundy dial by far. I recently got the white face seamaster but I think the burgundy dial 57 could be my next watch. The thing is gorgeous.

>>18138540
No offense but this might be an actual mental block that you just have to get over. It affects a lot of people, they just psychically cannot handle the idea of a lot of money leaving their bank account all at once even if it's a good purchase, even if it's a good investment that they know will increase the value of their property or other assets they just can't part with the money.

Theres a guy I work with who is one of those old boomers that is in his 70s still working, shows no signs of retiring, and does every hour of overtime they'll allow him to do, and he just socks all the money away in his bank account like he's trying to reach a high score. He never bought a house because his apartment rent was cheap as hell and he couldn't part with the money on a down payment. He just bought a used truck and FINANCED IT even though he coupd have paid cash 50 times over for it. Has no wife, no kids, literally has nore money than he knows what to do with to a point where when he finally died he's just going to leave it to his church. He doesn't have jack shit because he just couldn't say goodbye to money.

I know people get mad when you act like watches are an investment, but in the case of Rolexes your money is relatively safe. If you buy that used daydate for $20k, even if you later decide to sell of and you only get $15k for it, odds are that $20k probably did better than the other $20k you left in your bank account after inflation. It probably did better than the money you put in half of the low to middling stocks and funds you put noney in during that time. That's why diversity in stuff you're buying is good, because ultimately you have no idea what anything will be worth 10 years from now.

>>18138694
learned 借金 = しゃっきん = debt
ty

>>18138171
I know what you mean. Where I live currently is pretty close to the transmitter. The watch syncs in about 15-30 seconds, probably even less if I put it next to a window. It's during holidays, when I'm further away (countries further) when the problems arise with the signal. Sometimes it doesn't sync at all.
Apparently, though, there seems to be a workaround to this. There are some apps that can use your phone speaker to recreate the signal and trick your watch into thinking (so to say) that it is actually receiving signals from the original transmitters.

>>18138750
wait this guy had the solid (real) gold gshock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEn7cwHGb_U

>>18138316
Pure fucking sex

>>18138309
I should not like this, but I do.

>>18138838
Whenever I read stuff like that, it makes me feel many things. On one hand, I feel sad for him because he obviously has never lived his life, not only to his full potential but not even 10% of it. On the other hand, he made his own choices and he has to live with the consequences. Maybe he will start living his life at 83? It's up to the individual. He probably grew up in a post-war family household where his parents were all like "Save up save up war can come at any moment" and he still lives like it's the cold war. Needless to say, to many of us, he has wasted his life away, I hope that he doesn't see it that way too.
Another thing that I feel [when reading stuff like that], is that I am very happy about my life choices because at 31 I have experienced enough for three lifetimes already. Many mistakes where made, many hearts broken, a lot of money lost- but I will never again be 26 driving my dreamcar on the racetrack, I will never be 30 again traveling the world and living in the country that I always wanted to live in. Money comes and goes, your age doesn't.
Clichè but, the older I get the more I understand how pretty much everybody is wrong about everything because there isn't a single person in my life that I would like to swap lives with, not even close. Most are trapped inside their comfort zones and are too scared to even make half a step outside said zone, but to society, this is the right way of thinking. Society is scared of people living outside the bubble, they want everyone to confirm their lackluster and boring choices in life, they want everyone to do the same.
We saw that during the plandemic anyway, who has a free will and who doesn't.
Buy the watch, forget everyone else.

>>18138519
If you can't do it as a retarded rich faggot that you are then just fucking burn everything moronic piece of shit.

>>18138866
>Money comes and goes, your age doesn't.
Ok give me money then.

>>18138866
If you ask him about it he'll show no signs of regret. He collects and tinkers with old electronics and chills with his friends at church and doesn't afraid of anything.

Still, he could have so much more in his life than sunday mass and 2 dozen computers literally older than me.

>>18138876
He seems happy then. Kudos to him.

>>18138866
Are you whoretadello?

>>18138882
He obviously is dude. Who else would randomly throw in retarded humblebrag attempts about being a degenerate loser?

bittertadello

>>18138888
The irony is he had a perfectly good life with a family in Germany before he fucked it beyond recognition.

>>18138899
I mean no one else except a rich retard who can fall back on things would do the retarded shit he did so no shit?

my next and final watch will be a junghans max bill solar, I am quitting this hobby, I want to be simple and happy...

>>18138838
>I know people get mad when you act like watches are an investment, but in the case of Rolexes your money is relatively safe. If you buy that used daydate for $20k, even if you later decide to sell of and you only get $15k for it, odds are that $20k probably did better than the other $20k you left in your bank account after inflation. It probably did better than the money you put in half of the low to middling stocks and funds you put noney in during that time. That's why diversity in stuff you're buying is good, because ultimately you have no idea what anything will be worth 10 years from now.

Submariner average 7 years ago was 10k (according to some fucking gay ass site), it is now 18k. If you had instead put that 10k into the S&P500 for 7 years, you'd have 21.8k (based on some other gay ass site)
Datejust average 4 years ago was 28k, now it's 42k. Said 28k into the S&P500 would have turned into 48k.
Also keep in mind, the price of rolexes has been steadily going down the last two years, likely due to cryptobros dumping theirs (which likely also caused the rise when they bought them). As such money in the bank over the last two years was a better idea than buying a rolex

I think buying rolexes as an investment is a bad idea because they just pump them out so the second hand market keeps growing

>>18138903
That's what I mean, he's like the exact opposite of what he's talking about in every possible way.

>>18138929
But it might not have been. That was the point. You don't know what is a good investment so you buy a lot of different shit and hope it's better than it sitting in your savings account.

>>18138866
>Clichè but, the older I get the more I understand how pretty much everybody is wrong about everything because there isn't a single person in my life that I would like to swap lives with, not even close
If you, despite all of your experiences, haven't realized that people want different things from life, you haven't learned enough. A lot of people, if not most, would not trade their life for yours.

>>18138925
Would you mind sharing the watches you own (and maybe have owned but sold)
I doubt I'll ever get into the "hobby", I'm just after one watch, but it interests me when people act like this is an addiction they have to quit and wonder how far down the rabbit hole they've gone.
I occasionally see a similar thing when it comes to keyboards & headphones, but I feel like for those they are the very rare minority, whereas for watches I feel like there are a TON of people like that.

>>18138925
Fuck off, Kevin.
Get the Meister Mega.

>>18138931
>But it might not have been. That was the point. You don't know what is a good investment so you buy a lot of different shit and hope it's better than it sitting in your savings account.
I feel like unlike other investments, rolexes are far more of a gamble than an investment. Don't get me wrong, adding some gambles to your "portfolio" (god I hate that word) is perfectly fine. Why not put a thousand or so into crypto. I put in a measly 100 and over time I have tripled that money without ever putting in any more. However, if you see it as a truly good investment, I think you're a little delusional. I will say it's not as bad as I expected, if you want to buy one to wear, you won't really lose much on average and will likely even come out ahead when you decide to sell it if it's in a similar state. However as an investment I feel like too much work goes into it (both to buy and to sell) for a gamble with mediocre returns (on average).

Basically, if you're not going to wear it, I think buying it is a bad idea. If you are going to wear it, it's a pretty good idea.

As for savings account, I see it more as an emergency fund than anything else. If something serious happens and you need money, that's what savings is for. It's not just where you should put everything and wait

>>18138941
I wasn't really even talking about comparing rolexes to buying S&P or whatever. I was comparing buying a rolex to not buying a rolex because you're too chicken shit to let go of the money. Money you could almost certainly get back if you really wanted to.

>>18138945
I wonder how much you'd actually get back if you needed money within say a week though, do you think they're that easy to get a good price for?

>>18138947
What kind of $20k crisis do you expect to be in a week after buying a watch?

>>18138947
In a week? I think you have to pawn it in that case

>>18138952
>a week after buying a watch?
I'm talking "bad thing happens, need money now within a week", not "oh a week after buying something bad happens"
It could be a month after buying or it could be 5 years after buying. At some point a time might come where you need accessible money and any method that has the ability to get that money back quick is an advantage over methods that don't.
>What kind of $20k crisis
you or a loved one needs an expensive operation, something critical goes wrong with house and if insurance even covers it that could be delayed, you lose your job & can't find a new one while your costs keep stacking up
Shit happens & sometimes you need money

>>18138964
Maybe don't buy a Rolex if you're a bottom feeding poorfag lmfao
There's enough posers like you already

>>18138964
>>you or a loved one needs an expensive operation
Lmfao $20k barely covers a few veneers what the fuck kind of an expensive operation are you going to get for that lollllllllll poor Turkish loserrrrrrrrrrrr

Top of the morning
Tag AR300 for the day here what's on the wrist?

>>18138973
ur mum's ring of ass

>>18138975
You are brown

>>18138977
yea just my fist & cock tho she'll lick it off wen we're done

>>18138967
Oh right I forgot a lot of third worlders (aka americans) come to this site
Uhh, something like you getting an ambulance ride then
>>18138966
I wouldn't get a rolex, but the discussion was about investments & it's a downside of the investment if you can't get your money out. As such the downside should come with an equivalent upside

>>18138801
London?

almost lunch time

>>18138838
the geezer is working for the afterlife, he has no needs for earthly possesions

>>18138979
But you can get your money out, probably more easily than most durable goods. Maybe even real estate. So what's the problem?

>>18138973
>what's on the wrist?
Not a recent pic, tho.

>>18138925
Zoloft, in watch form

>>18138979
By your logic you’d pay less for the watch yourself to compensate for the risk you might have to sell it quickly and not get full market price. You’re only hope of finding a watch is if you’re lucky and find a seller who’s in a rush, otherwise sellers just wait for someone to pay market price

>>18138988
Maybe he's better off, actually. He lives to serve the lord, we live to indulge in whores and watches and posting wristshots online.

>>18138519
0-249K net worth proletariat: happy meal watch
250K-499K net worth blue collared working class : base model Casio
500K+ net worth white collared working class: base model Seiko
1M+ net worth middle class: base model Omega
5M+ net worth aspirational middle class: base model Rolex
10M+ net worth upper middle class: base model Patek
50M+ net worth upper class: unique and heirloom pieces, antique marine chronometers, high complication pocket watches, luxury clocks

>>18138992
solid

>>18138992
>Breguet 4444
BASED, that watch terrifies asian folks

>>18138899
Qrd?

>>18138992
>he's back
BASED BREGUET

Which one of these three would make a better daily dress watch (for office meetings, sunday lunches and such)?

>>18139018
Left is my choice.

>>18139018
Neither because fuck gay sexko and the other brands are dogshit too.

>>18139011
Tl;dr he got caught cheating on his wife, she took the kids, he copes by hiring whores to pretend they're his girlfriend and pose with his luxury watches on their filthy whore bodies so he can shitpost for attention in this thread.

>>18139009
Why?

>>18139032
Google tetraphobia

>>18139031
Sad!

>>18139007
This except when I got my first job I spent my first few paychecks on an Omega when my net worth was below $10k, worth!!!

>>18139031
Be careful, any minute now he's going to ask you to post your watch and declare victory when you don't even though it doesn't actually make him any less of a shithead.

>>18139031
he used to be married? dang man

>>18138853
I tried one of those apps and it didn't work. I was going to mess with the positioning of the phone speaker and watch and then thought, this is stupid, I can just manually set it. at worst it will be off by some milliseconds. either way I love the watch.

>>18139036
bad decision but I did the same thing! except i have my tenants to pay off my mortgage!

>>18139042
I mean we can only be dumb and in our 20s once. Now I have close to a milly but I'm miserable and barely spend anything cause I'm like that old man higher in the thread.

>>18138992
He lives! How you been? Got any cool photos from your journeys to show?

>>18139018
GS

>>18139031
>she took the kids
I don't think he has kids...

>>18139048
Not anymore.

sitting by the lake, reflecting on what it means to own an ultra luxury timepiece
>>18138992
missed you

>>18139054
Reflect on the polyester you are wearing..

>>18138925
I hate that date window.

>>18139064
Do you still love the watch, or is the bloom off the rose?

god this for a deal - thoughts on this?

>>18139074
Oh, yeah. Got it for the aesthetic, but I actually found it to be very practical. And it just wears and feels right. It's on the wrist and it is a watch, and I mean that in the best way possible.

>>18139080
If you're a Greek God it'll suit you.

>>18138995
Being around when someone is in a rush to sell is rare, so that'll be even more work to find one to buy. At that point it's likely a good idea to just flip it anyway and relist it at a price closer to market. Having to spend that time and not having a readily available option to get in is also a downside, sure if the opportunity arises it is interesting.
>>18138991
>But you can get your money out, probably more easily than most durable goods.
What other goods do people use as investments?
Yeah, real estate is likely one of the hardest to get out of (assuming you're doing rentals and not just leaving it empty for some reason)

>>18139083
I'm (moderately hairy ) southern Italian and also wear chains too - the sapphire is addicting - and i got some compliments on it - just hate buying the pozzed brands because of the facade of wealth that surrounds it

>>18139007
>0-249K net worth proletariat: happy meal watch
why is this the first category when I feel like that's 90% of people or more
>>18139018
I'd wear the GS

>>18139087
It looks like shit
They're trying to copy at least 3 brands

>>18139080
How much?

>>18139080
I wouldn't be caught dead wearing this
The only way you can pull this off is if you're fat, short, bald, greek, greasy and have massive golden chains

>>18139089
Yeah thats what i told the person selling me it , however i got it well below retail price so i thought why not

>>18139092
I got it for 250 and a favor from a friend which was a decent deal - its retailing at around 600-1000 right now. I think it looks good desu - i have a few Versace watches that are normal leather this being the first with some form of flash

>>18138925
beautiful watch
>>18138993
thats the appeal
>>18139064
>>18139081
this one is nice too, gives off the vibe that you are a train conductor (with a secret)

>>18139096
Well , im southern Italian with gold chains and gold bracelets and im shorter and hairy -not bald though

>>18139097
>its retailing at around 600-1000 right now
That's why I asked.
>>18139098
Radiates a slight grandpa watch energy.

>>18139085
>What other goods do people use as investments?
Probably art, antiques and collectible items. But these are niches, very speculative and inefficient markets I’d guess

>>18139106
I was thinking about trading it for a higher value watch eventually - i really enjoy it though - i got compliments on it at a wedding i went too - maybe i just looked sleezy , who knows

>>18139089
I dont think it looks terrible

>>18139096
this. or an actual mexican narco with a similar complexion, must be under 5'7. they really like versace for some reason

>>18139100
Learn greek & you stand a chance

>>18139129
I think genetically i am slightly Greek as my mother is Sicilian haha ill just wear bigger chains and be a walking meme now

I haven't visited this shithole in several months. I'll just tell you one thing. The steel 36mm Rolex Explorer I is the best watch ever made. I don't care about your opinion, I don't give a shit about your opinion, fuck you faggot.

>>18139085
The most major commodity people buy is probably gold. It's basically as good as money, lots of people will readily pay market value for it. Cars are another example, they're useful and pretty easy to find someone to take them off your hands, but the obvious issue is they quickly depreciate in value and you will never get what you paid for it. That's true across the board for cars unless we're talking about the highest of high end Italian sports cars(that you have to be on a fucking list to have one built for you) or historical relics like one of Paul Newman's cars, or a car some company only made 100 of so it could be legal in some production car race they wanted to enter.

Other than that we're in the realm of collectables and shit. Sitting on some old video games and trading cards and rare whiskeys and shit expecting their value will go up. This is more hobbyist type stuff, and it's where we are in watches, but if you know what you're doing you can make a little money. But that shouldn't be your goal, this is stuff you should buy because you like it. I couldn't imagine tracking market movements on magic the gathering cards and trying to make market moves on it if I wasn't interested in magic the gathering.

>>18139149
Is getting the call on that watch the reason you left?

>>18139149
I dont think it looks bad

Found this watch lying around at home, and i like how it looks, is it any good? Before i replace the battery

>>18139149
Good taste but I like mine a little bigger and I hate the Mercedes Benz hour hand Rolex does
Definitely my favorite Rolex though

>>18139149
Can you believe there are people who unironically buy 40mm explorers? Without a shred of hyperbole, if I wanted a 40mm field watch I'd rather buy a Hamilton khaki king and save thousands and thousands of dollars. The whole beauty of the explorer is it's a little light handy watch, it makes no sense to blow it up without even adding any complications or functionality for doing so. What's the point?

>>18139158
Do you prefer the infected stubbed big toe they put on the tudors?

>>18139156
Not really, it's a fashion watch, and not in a good sense.

>>18139151
Physical gold has the advantage that people have traded it for thousands of years and the markets are large. Otherwise it’s not that different to watches. It’s a hassle to sell, the fees are high, you need to store it securely and theoretically at least there’s a concern of authenticity too

>>18139152
I left because i hate all that collector's journey shit. I do the complete opposite of TGV. I already have the best watch, so fuck all the trends.

>>18139168
What exactly does TGV do, and what is the opposite of that?

>>18138002
>Oh my god...
>IT HAS A SPRING DRIVE

>>18139164
They ruined that watch putting gold on it
>>18139167
Zero counterparty risk
Gold is money
Everything else is debt
>>18139156
A watch is better than no watch

>>18139175
Tudor's "gilt" watch components are usually bronze. It's the same material they use to make the dials. Even when they use real gold it's just gold plating. Pretty sad.

>>18139171
In his videos TGV talks about the collector's journey. I oppose all that shit. I buy the watch I like and stop buying garbage. I'm simply a minimalist.

>>18139180
I'm not sure I believe that

I just discovered mink oil for leather boots. Are there similar products people use for watch straps?

>>18139182
They literally say it in their catalogues and on their website.

https://www.tudorwatch.com/en/tudor-mag/craft/the-how-of-hands

>>18139173
>Anon, are you okay? You're sweeping.

>>18139160
>What's the point?
For most men, 36mm will make them feel insecure. 36 mm is the size for the connoisseur, because the Explorer combines two characteristics: it is a small watch, so it is incredibly comfortable; Its dial is very legible, it does not need to be larger.

>>18139164
I don't like it, but I dislike it less than the benz, yeah.
My favorite is still plain baton hands or the Dauphine hands of for example grand seikos. On sportier watches I also don't mind arrow hands
Mercedes & cathedral are my least favorite

>>18139195
>small is comfortable
WRISTLET, WRISTLET

>>18139181
I don't take the concept of the "collector's journey" as consoooming as such, it's more about learning about yourself and your tastes over time through having experience with trying on and day to day wear of different watches.

For instance, I used to think watches with a lot of complications were automatically better. They can do more stuff and everyone can see how cool my do it all watch is by its volume, why wouldn't they be better? But over time and trying different watches and wearing them in different circumstances I learned that I like a little thin watch that's not going to be in the way and is comfortable with a lot of different clothes. I like a thin watch, the thinner the better. I never thought I'd like metal bracelets but through wearing them and playing around with sizes I found it's the best way to wear a watch as long as you're not doing athletic shit. But then even after that, I thought I'd never like Panerai because they're big bricks but after trying one on I could understand how good and fun it feels to wear them even though they're big and heavy. You just have to try a lot of stuff and see if you're in or not.

>>18138850
yw, fren

>>18139198
Where's the lie though? Smaller watches are more comfortable, just like smaller bracelet links make for a more comfortable bracelet. It's a geometric fact.

Not only that but I'm a mechanic and I wear beater automatic watches for work, and it's just simply way easier and more comfortable to reach into tight spaces and roll around in the frame of a machine with a small watch. Same for thibks like hiking and camping, when you're not doing it it's easy to say "just life more weights fag" when people talk about choosing gear that's a couple ounces lighter, but ounces can add up to pounds pretty quickly and you really start to feel it 9 or so hours into a 3 day hike.

Bottom line, if you could use a tool that is smaller and lighter without the function being impared in any way, why wouldn't you?

>>18139186
Ok
The gilding is not bronze
I'm not sure why you would believe is was solid to begin with. It's guilding.
But it sure isn't bronze
I'm going on the wild assumption that you understand what gilding means, which does seems to be my only mistake. You wrote it as the guilding was bronze.

At any rate, it's one of the more puerile arguments you've come up with, that the guilded components aren't solid.

I'm bitching about them giving the 58 treatment to the 36. They should have left it black and white

>>18139210
Not bronze, I meant brass.

Yeah, if they advertise gold 2 tone you'll get gold. They're not going to flat out lie. But on the normal black bays the "gilt" variations hands and markers are brass. There's no gold in any of these black bays.

>>18139222
Your little website doesn't say that

>>18139227
>Your little website
You mean Tudor's official website and the physical catalogue they hand out at ADs that I first read this in?

Not sure if you're coping, illiterate, or just genuinely stupid.

>>18139234
It's fucking gilt you blithering idiot

>>18139209
>Where's the lie though? Smaller watches are more comfortable
The most comfortable size depends on the size of your wrist, because it's meant to match it well.
>simply way easier and more comfortable to reach into tight spaces and roll around in the frame of a machine with a small watch
The thickness will matter far more here, and in that scenario, I do admit that thinner is better within reason. Thick watches can also be a pain with them catching more on cuffs

>Bottom line, if you could use a tool that is smaller and lighter without the function being impared in any way, why wouldn't you?
Because it is less comfortable
As an example, just a week ago I used a small & light chain breaker on my bike. Did it work? Yes, but a bigger tool would have been better to use.

If all you wanted was function, nobody would wear anything other than a Casio F91W

>>18139247
I hate plastic on my skin

>>18139249
That doesn't impact the fucntion

>>18139250
It's not functional if I don't wear it

>>18139239
That's just what they call it, it's not actually gold.

The 2 tone watches give you real gold hands and gold on the bezel and bracelet, but even then they're transparent about how little gold you're actually getting. you get a 0.2-0.4 millimeter thick "cap" of gold on the gold surfaces.

Actually, I'm not even totally sure the hands are gold on the 2 tone models. The descriptions don't explicitly say. But we just went over their stated process of making hands where they are unambiguously made with brass.

>>18139255
https://media.tudorwatch.com/image/upload/fl_attachment/v1/tudorwatch/pressroom/products/black-bay-58/2024/pdf/New-Watches-2024_Black-Bay-58-GMT-en.pdf

They tell you they're gilded
They don't tell you they're solid gold
And they sure as fuck aren't brass. Or bronze. Or whatever.

>>18139247
A smaller chain tool has less leverage which impacts the function. A smaller watch does the same job with no impact to function. That's the point. If you discovered a way it was physically possible to make a hammer that hit like a 10 pound hammer but was half the size of a typical 10 pound hammer everyone that wanted a 10 pound hammer would buy your hammer. There would be no reason not to.

I defy you to find a 40mm watch more comfortable to wear on literally anybody than a 36mm watch. Keep in mind comfortable does not mean looking good. Smaller links in a chain physically conform closer to surfaces than larger ones. It's not debatable.

>>18139256
If they aren't brass, why do they explicitly tell you they're brass?

What are you wearing, frens?

>>18139264
Larger watches are generally more legible than smaller watches

>>18139229
hair puller or nah?

>>18139265
I think I was right the first time
You have no idea what guilding is
Guilding=gold
Nothing else
Guilding implies it's not solid

NEW THREAD


>>18139269
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>>18139269
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>>18139270
You weren't.

They are literally.

LITERALLY.

Not gold.

Show me the part of this video where they add gold to the hands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaigS2MVOKo&list=TLGGmX8zfkOzJVcwNTA2MjAyNA

>>18139274
They're guilded
Sorry sweetie.

>>18139007
I have a Seiko 5, and my net worth is probably right around the $600k mark. Looks like I'm right in line. Thanks, Dave Ramsey!

>>18139268
A little bit, yeah. You could also get the A700 with the milanese watch band which has no such problem. It's more elegant, but I prefer the retro futuristic vibe of the A700W.

>>18139275
smartest /wt/ poster

>>18139180
Aren't dials usually made from brass and not bronze?

>>18139289
Yes, I meant brass.

are manual watches a pain in the ass? How often do you have to wind them?

The movements look prettier than automatic movements.

>>18139307
Depending on the context they can be easier actually. If we're talking about a dress watch you'll only wear a couple times a year, a nice super thin watch with no complications you can just set and go works really well, and even if you are going to be out wearing it for 2 or 3 days a full wind will probably be enough power reserve to get you through that time.

Generally you should wind your watch at the same time every day to keep the spring tension consistent each day. So wind it up when you pick it up off of your dresser or when you're waiting for your coffee. It's advisable to take the watch off when you're winding it, so you need 2 hands free to do it, but other than that it's not a big deal.

>>18139310
Thanks chatgpt