/fa/ - Fashion

>>18077608
The Fragrance Groups 101 chart

>>18077608
The Fragance Flowchart for Beginners

which one /fit/

>>18077614
The complete indian trifecta.. powerful

I recently found out that my crush actually work in a psychotherapeutic practice and quit working as a model. Fuck.
>>18077614
Sauvage edp anyday

How do Timbuktu and Sycomore compare to Guerlain Vetiver?

Why was the last one nuked?

>>18077637
terminally online sperg was butthurt

>>18077614
who gives a fuck

>>18077635
guerlain is a lighter, fresher, more aromatic, more clean vetiver blend

sycomore is earthier darker vetiver

timbuktu has smokier bitter-tropical fruity nuances (winner for me but purists will pick guerlain)

also prople claim the vintage bottle of timbuktu is better - I haven’t tried it but I prefer even the new timbuktu bottle version of the guerlain

>>18077751
*over the guerlain

>>18077611
garbage as always
>>18077614
all irredeemably foul
>>18077635
very little relation aside from also being vetiver oriented. like trying to compare jicky to habit rouge to because both contain vanilla.

>>18077609
>>18077611
fantastic as always

>>18077816
retarded as always

If I like sandalwood, is Creed ORIGINAL Santal my best bet?

>>18077827
your best bet for getting scammed by private equity, yes

>Lady at the fragrance counter: It's got oud, but it is not an extremely fecal oud.
Okay, I'm glad, but why does there exist an "extremely fecal oud" and who would ever think to put it in a cologne?

>>18077832
There aren't really different kinds of oud (apart from synthetic ouds), it's all fundamentally the same thing. the way it smells is going to be determined by the chemical composition and the skill of the perfumer. No one is aiming for a note of horse shit when using oud in a fragrance, it just happens it's formulated poorly.

>>18077827
It smells good and lasts longer than most Creeds, but it's still overpriced. For some reason that one always seems to be expensive on discounters as well and I'm not sure why.

>>18077871
>it smells good
lol

>>18077820
faggot as always

Why would I need more

>>18077892
moronic as always

recently visited my parents and found almost empty bottle of adg profondo
how should I approach my dad (62) about this?

>>18077925
call him moronic or faggot

>>18077899
I got the 200ml one. Batch says it was brewed ~2yrs ago. It's bretty good.

>>18077925
strap your dad to a chair and beat the shit out of him with a belt

>>18077925
fuck his wife

>>18077925
based pops

>>18077925
drinking problems are no laughing matter...

What scents scents should I add to round out my Spring/Summer rotation? I'm think Chrome Aqua Encre Indigo (when it drops in price), and maybe Terre De Hermes.

Is Kenzo Jungle workable for the heat, if anyone has it?

SOTD fougere gothique by barrister & mann
>>18077751
i have a miniature of vintage timbuktu and i honestly can barely detect it
>>18077832
i can guarantee you that in whatever she's peddling there's no oud at all. it was also probably not a cologne.
>who would ever think to put it in a cologne?
you wouldn't get it...
>>18077856
>There aren't really different kinds of oud
so wrong i dont even know where to start
>No one is aiming for a note of horse shit when using oud in a fragrance, it just happens it's formulated poorly.
also wrong, has nothing to do with formulating unless someone drops a bottles of indoles in there by accident
>>18078053
might want to try out aramis havana or kenzo pour homme (1991). encre indigo is alright, it reallyis just EN but blue

>>18077899
It's nothing short of astonishing that zoomers are unironically wearing Drakkar Noir all of a sudden. My mom bought it for me in high school and I couldn't wear it because adults would start laughing when I told them what it was. That's not an exaggeration, it happened five or six times. I told the receptionist at my summer job and she made all the other employees come out and see if they could guess what it was. They all thought it was hysterical. They brought it up for like a year afterward.

I'm not trying to say it smells bad, it really doesn't, I'm just shocked that a fragrance that had such a terrible reputation for 20 years somehow made a comeback.

>>18078059
no one cares gramps

>>18078058
>AyUcKsHyUaLly it probably wasn't a cologne
Cologne is just American for any men's fragrance. Ladies wear perfume and men wear cologne. No one gives a single fuck about fragrance designations

>>18078069
americans being retarded as usual, news at 11

>>18078059
you forgot to call it a musky creamy fougere or whatever
>>18078069
>ameritard being retarded
typical

Why did you faggots say Iron Duke is an edgy fragrance? I'm wearing a sample and it's nothing special. Gunpowder my ass, I was in the military and know what gunpowder smells like and there is none of that in here. Are you sure they didn't mean gunpowder tea?

>>18078089
did you really expect the average beaufort buyer (homosexual) to know what gunpowder smells like?

>>18078089
that's what i've been saying. maybe try tonnerre, that's the edgiest one

>>18078089
>I was in the military and know what gunpowder smells like
Cool your jets, Admiral. Everyone who has set off fireworks knows that smell.

A fragrance for bloatmaxing? I initially thought Cool Water.

>>18078124
>I sprayed this and it instantly transported be to the Revolutionary War where I had just finished greasing my canon (if you know what I mean) the scent itself is beautiful giving hints of deceased red coats strung out around a battle torn field in the middle of Virginia. The scent smells as if the perfumer behind it was George Washington himself. If he was a playboy pimp daddy with a 6 pack and 20 inch biceps. I love this scent, my wife not so much. Ever since I acquired this scent she has been complaining about my use of old English and my new hobby of throwing shillings at the local towns woman. 10/10

>>18077614
sauvage if you are not a beta
>>18077899
because you want a fragrance that lasts all day and not 2 hours. That's why you buy all the available bottles of Al Rehab Dakar for a third of the price.
>>18078053
I need to sell my Ted Lapidus Sport, it really doesn't smell as good as it looks. Get Light Blue Forever. You already have Missoni.
>>18078059
zoomers are not wearing Drakkar lol. I don't count I'm not a normie.


should I get this vintage Oscar De La Renta Pour Lui? Ever tried vintage or new formulation? I hate animalics but love fougeres. 10 bucks, almost full, could also sell for way more I think. Should have asked to try it when I had the chance, I'll ask my dad to do it for me

I love myrrh
Anything that smell like that?
I've been using Bleu for like 10 years, i'm tired of it

So, is it really the zoomer Aventus? If I want to have sex with zoomer twinks should I be wearing Layton instead of Aventus? I own them both so it's not an issue, but Aventus has been my go-to boss daddy scent for years, and I just can't see wearing Layton for that purpose.

There's just something about Aventus that says "I am in my 30s, possibly even 40s or 50s, and if you have sex with me there is a non-zero chance I will buy you a PS5 for the rec room". Layton doesn't feel that way. Layton is a scent that says "I am in my late 20s and I want to smell like I'm still in my early 20s, but also I have a job now so instead of wearing Versace Eros, I'm going to wear this fragrance that does the same thing as Eros but with a really heavy metal cap".

But anyway, last week I wore Aventus and my grindr twink would barely even let me jerk him off in the car. I don't know what the fuck happened. He said he was nervous about people seeing us, but you can't see other that far down. And also, who cares? These people are all bullshit. Honestly, it had to have been the Aventus. That's the only explanation I can find.

>>18077899
You want to start smelling good

>>18078144
>Anything that smell like that?
Yeah. A lot of things, but mostly Habdan by Parfums de Marly. That one has Frankincense and Myrrh. You will smell like a newborn messiah.

>>18078142
no one asked, coomer mutt
>>18078176
you are such a fucking retard holy shit
>>18078188
moron alert

What does ADG actually smell like without all the bullshit word vomit people spout when talking about fragrance notes. I just wanna smell like an ocean breeze for the summer.

What's a really animalic honey perfume?

>>18078202
kouros

>>18078201
Which one? Cutting out all the bullshit, the original smells like citrus and the ocean.

Did you know that there are an estimated 37 active serial killers in the FragTube community at any given time? Kind of spooky

>>18078196
where's your tard wrangler at, buddy?
>>18078201
just go try it for yourself at literally ANY perfumery. It is the best while the flankers are super meh. Smells like citruses and the ocean, light and pleasant.
>>18078202
Ted Lapidus pour Homme
>>18078205
you can't smell the honey, just the cat piss

>>18078205
I don't get honey from Kouros.

>>18078213
>>18078220
yeah true we have a fragranceshop in my town so I'll pop in next week. I know they discontinued profumo which everyone loved and replaced it with parfum. Then there's Profondo so i'll decide between those two.

>>18078220
where’s your tranny to fuck, coomer mutt?

Has anyone ordered from Makeupstore? Is that place legit?

I'm looking for a fragance for hot humid night, any recommendations?

Absolu aventus, better then the original and the cologne. If you haven’t had a chance to smell this you’re missing out. I liked it so much I bought two bottles. The longevity is great and so is the projection. Everyone who says this smells like aventus mixed with sauvage is either an envious seething detractor or has a problem with their nose.

>>18078273
by photoshopping a photo of epstein over a bottle of absolu aventus, are you trying to imply that everyone who likes it (yourself included) is a pedophile?

>>18078176
Try Kouros

>>18078220
>Ted Lapidus pour Homme
So good, I love the drippy honey

>>18078273
Well what does it smell like, then

>>18078273
I love Aventus but can't justify buying another $500 bottle of cologne right now. What's better about Absolu Aventus vs Aventus?

>>18078225
i get honey from your mother when im having sex! with her pussy!

>>18078201
go for Profondo, its less citrus and more sea breeze along with having solid projection and longevity for a freshie, its my favorite for summer. The original is very pleasant if you like citrus but the projection and longevity are non-existent.

>>18078303
alright i'll give it a test. I was thinking about getting some club de nuit for pure citrus but if ADG has some citrus too then bonus.

>>18078287
it’s better at fleecing retards stupid enough to buy into the aspirational luxury dream

>>18078323
No one asked you

why are female perfume never discussed here? Lets start with the absolute classic. What do you guys think about channel no. 5

>>18078336
do you have to ask?

>>18078336
So powdery

>>18078287

Absolu aventus is a big step up: Classical aventus, Especially contemporary batches Have a laughable performance, they have watered it Down to nothing. I mean, how much do you get out of it nowadays maybe three hours? That was one of the main reasons I like AA So much, Since it’s magnitudes stronger than its predecessor. The DNA has been changed a bit, But not in a shitty movie sequel way. I’d argue that in many aspects is even better than classical aventus. Absolu aventus has a stronger and juicer blast of citrus at its opening, it has more “bite”. Going through the mid notes, it still remains pretty lively, while by that point aventus has usually died down and is more muted.

In the end I’d say that comparing aventus with absolu is like comparing the camera on one of those old Sony Ericsson flip phones with the camera of an iPhone 15. Everything is brighter, more lifelike and intense.

>>18078341
im newfagging. to be honest I try to connect with my mom a bit through fashion and frags because it is really her thing. She hates chanel 5 so I was just curious to know

>>18078347
n. 5 is an oldfag frag, the aldehydes in it are sickening old. Grannycore.

>>18078347
If you want to know a good female perfumer, check out Cécile Zarokian

>>18078347
based momma's boy you're probably not getting a lot of women's perspectives here though maybe some ""women's"" perspectives

>>18078330
cry harder dumbass
>>18078344
lmfao this reads like an AI was fed every fragbro post about aventus ever and told to spit out some crap about absolute shitventus

>>18078336
no. 5 is obviously a masterpiece, whenever the layperson thinks about perfume they’re thinking about no. 5. EDT and extrait concentrations are better than EDP.
>>18078347
she probably dislikes how ubiquitous it is, it’s been unavoidable for over a hundred years now.
>>18078351
if you think aldehydes start and end at no. 5 i have real fucking bad news for you lmfao

>>18078357
Look man, Don't complain if you can't afford Absolu Aventus. There are those who can and those who can't, but those who can't shouldn't complain

>>18078363
you didnt answer my question back here >>18078274
do creed fans want to fuck kids?

>>18078365
Only those who wear Virgin island water

im going on vacation to italy, any fragrances I should pick up?

>>18078373
i cooka da pizza

>>18078371
would be easier for everyone involved if you just said yes buddy
>>18078373
italians suck at perfume

>>18078373
Any Acqua di Parma if you have the slightest class and SOVL left in your corn syrup-filled obese body
>>18078376
>>18078377
coglioni

>>18078373
some musty italian cunt

>>18078385
>LVMH
>sovl
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAAHHAHA wait no you’re serious?
AHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAH

>>18078392
what are you even on about

>>18078385
Acqua di Parma e ok ma dura dalle 12 a mezzogiorno

>>18078395
AdP has been owned by LVMH for 2 decades. literally everything that has come out of them since the original colonia is bottled arnault shit.

>>18078336
the mens version of pleasures is the best women's perfume ever made

>>18078336
the only thing I know about ladies perfume is that they all fuckin love Daisy

>>18078402
really? dying on the hill of a subpar cool water spinoff? but why?

>>18078385
>corn syrup-filled obese body
I'm no americano mutt

>>18078400
who cares, it's good

>>18078420
>watered down arnault piss
>good
rofl

>>18078396
>>18078400
not great performance but they are the best natural smelling classy frags out there that don't sell for niche prices. Literally the mediterranean in a bottle for 70 bucks. Any Colonia and Fico simply mog ANY designer for the hot season and it's not even close. I get 6+ hours from Fico btw (150 ml for 59 bucks, couldn't believe it). Couldn't care less about spending hundreds for "niche" consumables.
>>18078420
yep
>>18078410
I take it back then. But do try ADP, you can find them easily in perfumeries. My favs are
>Osmanthus
>Yuzu
>Colonia Pura
>Colonia
>Colonia Essenza (only need one of these three, all very similar, some more citrussy, some more aromatic)
>Fico di Amalfi
>Bergamotto di Calabria (check the other blue bottles too, but this one is simply the best pure, juicy bergamot frag I have ever tried)
The other EDP (black bottles) are good too if you like ouds, sandal and leather.

>>18078429
>they are the best natural smelling classy frags
you don’t even know what the fuck you’re talking about lol, you’re just blindly shilling for a mummified corpse puppeteered by a multibillion dollar french conglomerate.

>>18078434
name one (1) frag in the same prince range.
Oh wait, your personality is wasting thousands on water that smells like shit from "niche" brands and hate on anything affordable cause MUH BIG COMPANY BAD when niche brands use the same chemicals and make you pay x100 for them. Cuck. I'll keep smelling amazing and enjoying life while you post the "DO NOT BUY THESE BRANDS" pic and wear niche shit in your basement alone.

>>18078443
lol imagine working yourself up into this frothing rage to defend your corporate overlord

>>18078445
>doesn't refute a single point nor name a single frag
soulless bug, back to your cave

>>18078449
refute what exactly? the part where you invented an imaginary strawman about niche perfumes when no one brought it up? or the part where you defended the multibillion dollar luxury company charging $2/ml MSRP for a basic ass eau de cologne? and before you start yapping like the insufferable wop turd you are, yes i know discounters have it for way cheaper. if you think that’s a valid argument you’re even dumber than i already think you are.

>>18078452
P o s t
o n e
f r a g
f a g g o t.
Why would I care what normie tards pay for frags at physical shops, I care for what I pay, and I paid nothing for a great frag.

>>18078458
are you mad?

What should I wear this Eid? Montblanc Explorer, TdH, CK One Shock or Versace Pour Homme?

>>18078458
lol why are you begging me to spoonfeed you suddenly? i thought i only wore overpriced niche perfumes in my basement?
>>18078461
either mad or italian, likely both.

>>18078464
you do, that's why you are not naming a single frag

>>18078462
all slop

>>18078467
imagine demaning spoonfeeding. absolutely shameful

>>18078467
>>18078471
>begging to be spoonfed while simultaneously deriding the person you want to spoonfeed you
didn’t your parents ever teach you anything about biting the hand that feeds? or is that just common practice in north africa?

>>18078471
>>18078472
>not one frag mentioned

I accept your concession.

Anyway, FOTD: Fico di Amalfi, the best in spring. Goodnight.

>>18078474
lol no one was even arguing with you in the first place. we’re here to laugh at you buddy.

You know how a good troll if hard to figure out?
Other places have cool trolls that shitpost and bait in at least amusing ways.

but you faggots are just awful no class no wit no nothing your posts suck and you should killyourself

inb4 one of these fags responds in his faggy way only confirming what I typed

>>18078478
rofl this is one angry ass ESL. weren’t you going to bed?

like pottery

>>18078469
Explain to me why

>>18078482
bedtime, wop.

>>18078474
scaruffibro...

>>18078493
one braindead wop to another, apparently

>>18077827
santal noble

just report him for trolling

Rate my current collection and describe me from these frags

Any suggestions for animalic and gourmand/rose notes? Tried Sarah Baker Jungle Jezebel and was almost there but the bubblegum was too much. I'm trying to find a replacement for Exquite Embroidery since its discontinued. I'm open to really animalic if I can layer it with something sweet to soften

>>18078562
congratulations, you paid a lot of money for a lot of garbage

>>18078562
perhaps santal royal by guerlain
its not really santal, its oud rose
theyre cheeky naming that series, nothing is how it is named
i have two bottles, theyre nice
bought last one at a discounters since retail is retarded price now
im pretty fond of it
no idea what EE smells like tho

Someone posted a tester of Kenzo Homme 2022 on ebay. Is it worth the $100 they're asking?

>>18078385
i cooka da pasta

>>18078583
Always difficult to judge if a used fragrance is worth it for a few reasons. Notably, storage: it could have been left on a window in the sun for the past 2 years.
Scams: the juice could be extracted and replaced with isopropyl alcohol/a dollar store fragrance/filled back up to full with something else, etc.

Whenever buying anything used, be open to the idea of being completely ripped off because it can and does happen.

>>18078562
Angels' Share is nice but it's single purpose and silly to wear 99% of the time. Acqua Di Parma is what it is. I wouldn't touch the rest. Good job picking stuff that isn't just repeated on YouTube over and over, except for Angels' Share ironically.

>>18078596
What kind of situation would be preferred for Angel's Share

>>18078385
ravioli ravioli

>>18078612
give me the formuoli

>>18078595
Was this written by AI?

>>18078562
>animalic
>rose
Bortnikoff Triad

>>18078336
a little spritz of no. 5 is perfect for gooning to trans porn

>>18077816
>>18077820
>>18077892
>>18077915
like watching two tards going apeshit after they escaped from special ed class when I was in 10th grade

>>18078683
thanks for the anecdote from your special ed school buddy

>>18078640
Nah. I could have an odd way of expressing my thoughts and anecdotes

>>18078443
fucking hell jeremy looks like a ghoul

>>18078344
>>18078344
>Especially contemporary batches Have a laughable performance, they have watered it Down to nothing. I mean, how much do you get out of it nowadays maybe three hours?
Look, I see the Jeffrey Epstein picture hidden within the orange peel, and I think it is very funny, but I feel like people who say this haven't actually smelled modern batches of Aventus. I have a bottle from 2023 (F000793) and it's stronger than my pre-reformulation batch (19U11). The old batch is a lot smokier, but that's only because it's aged several years. When that old batch hit the market, everyone said it was a fruity batch that was vanilla heavy. It's still vanilla heavy, which is actually pretty great and gives the deep drydown a sort of sweet firewood quality, but now it's got a similar degree of smokiness to my bottle of CDNI Parfum (the limited edition that will leave your clothes smelling like you spent the last three nights in a biker bar when everything else dissipates)

The old batch is smokier, but the new batch is definitely stronger. When the bottle came in I sprayed the new batch on my right hand and the old batch on my left hand, and while I was personally less noseblind to the smokier batch for whatever reason, I asked three different people which one smelled better and all three said they could barely tell I had a fragrance on my left hand, which will often happen when you smell two of the same scent profile with differing strengths side by side. Your olfactory sensors tune out the weaker one and it will smell like there's nothing there. Happens a lot in videos where people do blind comparisons of Aventus and CDNI

>>18078692
so much autism over a nothing perfume

Kiehl's Musk rocks. I can't get over it. I'm gonna buy 4 more bottles just in case it ever gets discontinue it. I hope some of you guys try it out if you haven't. It's got a nice floral-y Chanel No. 5 vibe to it with the musky smell. Smells like a really classy hunting lodge.
Tried a few Replica samples. The beach one was bretty gud, Jazz Club was alright, but By the Fireplace was really nice. Awesome cold weather/seasonal fragrance.
Thinking about pulling the trigger on a few things. I think Musc Ravageur is gonna be my jam, but besides that I'm looking at Le Lion de Chanel, Jicky, and Sauvage because I unironically like it. Also thinking about Kouros. Anyone have any thoughts on these?
I know Sauvage isn't really unique, I just like it.

>>18078697
Lazy Sunday Morning is Maison Margiela's best frag but it's too situational for men and literally no one here will ever be in the right situation for it. (for morning after brunch)

>>18078697
>>18078699
maison margiela (aka licensed l’orealslop) have never and will never ever make a perfume worth a shit

>>18078699
Actually have that on my right hand as we speak. I really like that one too. Was part of the sample box I got.
>>18078716
None of them are stellar but they're all pretty good.

>>18078719
no, none of them are good, in fact none of them are even tolerable. have some fucking standards dude.

can i wear xerjoff renaissance daily as a 24 year old medical student?

>>18078737
yeah, you should broadcast to everyone else at your med school that you’re a fucking idiot so they know to stay away from you.

>>18078738
elaborate

>>18078739
well, it’s really simple, only a fucking moron could fall for xerjoff’s scam.

>>18078740
okay

>>18078443

>>18078744
He's fake and gay and says this about everything. Just don't talk to him

>>18078775
will do, thank you

>>18078775
lol imagine batting for fucking jerkoff just to spite some guy online who called you gay a couple times
>>18078783
please, go ahead and signal to the world that you’re an easily impressed idiot. we need more people to spray themselves with the olfactory equivalent of jew star badges.

>>18078785
im going to jerk off to your post

>>18078786
seems like par for the course in these threads

How have I slept on this lil nigga due to Reddit's constant bashing on it cuz of popularity? It's phenomenal. So much better than BDC EDP

>>18078808
i’m glad you prefer diabetes to hepatitis.

this samefag is annoying as fuck. Types like a teenager whith hemorrhoids. Kill yourself already, you think popular=bad, designer=bad, yet doesn't name a single good fragrance, just shits on anything. wow such an original thought never heard before, surely not #24453333 4chins contrarian.

stop giving her you.

>>18078825
sounds like the coomer mutt is having an aneurysm rofl

Does anybody actually do DIY fragrances?

The sex fragrance

>>18078562
kilian and tf are the worst masstige shit
try hyrax by zoologist but you won't like it
>>18078825
hemorrhoids are no laughing matter
>>18078697
you got some schizo taste. jicky is one of the greatest of all times and kouros is still very good. i've been eyeing kiehls musk for some time too...

>>18078852
You'll smell like every roastie's ex-boyfriend.

This doesn't sound very safe...

>>18078872
lurk moar, newfriend

>>18078859
But a creamier version of they ex boifriends

Opinions?

>>18078877
I wonder how much the adjustments in EdP actually matter for sillage. I personally really disliked EdT on myself, and EdP in comparison feels like the ”full” version of the idea, but I’d also imagine that the difference probably isn’t that big to other people as it is to the wearer.

>>18078885
Matters alot, like you already stated, the edt smells much more sharp, peppery, bland.
The musky, anis, vanilla addition of the edp makes it much smoother in the air.

just bought this little vintage mini of Eau Sauvage aftershave. I smell less citrus, more herbs, spices and oakmoss than I remember from the current EDT. I wonder how much of it is citrus top notes receding

>>18078737
i have that
its nice
that creamy drydown (lily of the valley?) is very enjoyable
probably wouldnt last all day, but youll smell like a million bucks in the meantime

>smells like grape soda in your path

>>18078929
sounds good to me, thanks!

>>18078957
please don't post in this thread ever again if you buy a xerjoff, cheers
>>18078929
same goes for you

>>18078977
I enjoy renaissance
I'm not really obsessed with the whole brand thing like you seem to be

I havent been here since summer yet you guys are discussing the same shit like then. What the hell?

>>18078942
Yes, why did M. Cross spoil the great oakmoss opening with that gross grape and soda drydown.

Got a decant of LV Imagination today and I’ve been wearing it since lunch time. It’s no doubt the best fresh citrus fragrance I’ve ever tried, but still, I can’t get over the feeling that it’s still pretty basic considering its pricing. The tea note is what elevates it above most cheaper options, but I’d love if it was somewhat stronger.

Probably can’t justify getting a full bottle, so the search for perfect fragrance for extreme heatwaves still goes on. I will still save some of that decant for actual summer to see if it becomes better in higher humidity / heat, as the spring is just beginning here where I live.

quit shilling this trash
this is at least the second week and no one is going to fall for it

I'm the faggot from a few threads back who was looking for a thread to project I'm a dominant gay and you guys recommended Kouros. I bought a bottle that arrived today and I'm enjoying it thus far. I can understand why someone wouldn't like it, it is a strong animalic, coupled with a fresh, almost bathroom cleaner type scent and mixed with honey. On the dry down i catch the occasional almost piss scent, which I'm not quite fond of but for the overall package, id say it will fit the bill. I have a feeling that with time and maturation of the bottle, I will enjoy it more. The next time I have a twink over, I'll ask his opinion.

I also picked up a small bottle of Carven L'eau Intense and I'm not quite sure what to think. It's fresh, really fresh. It reminds me of car air freshener or one of those smell good sprays like febreze. I haven't worn it yet but will report back after I do.

>>18079019
You should have gotten the man silver by Milton lloyd. It's a clone of the original formula kouros. Modern version is just a wifty waif version. But you're not really an alpha, because you're here asking advice on perfume. And you're not wearing antaeus.

shant be purchasing cheap arabic clones

>>18079053
I'm just a beefy dude who likes to domm twinks, Asian femboys and trans girls.

>antaeus
Antaeus has been on my list for awhile. Im going to save a bit and pick up Creed Viking then after that, I'll snag a bottle.

>>18079067
>pick up Creed
oh no, it's retarded

>>18079068
did you expect a literal fag who has sex with mens’ assholes to not be retarded???

Bought a 120ml bottle of Cedrat Boise for 70 bucks second hand. Can't get any better than that.
>>18079067
>I'm just a beefy dude who likes to domm twinks, Asian femboys and trans girls.
Are you me? Bloatmaxing and into women and feminine males.

>>18079105
i expected gay people to have at least some taste
i guess i was wrong (´。＿。｀)

>SOTD: Kouros
no homo

>>18079109
no one asked, coomer mutt
>>18079118
dude, he literally gets shit all over his dick for fun. the fuck you mean by “taste”? the taste of human feces?

Creed makes the best mens frags available. They get hate here from a bunch of incels who can't afford, so they seethe.

>>18079134

>>18079134
i’m glad you believe in blackrock so strongly

>>18079137
Not even bait. If you could afford Creed, you'd wear it. You crab in a bucket incels are the same people who hate on Mercedes while driving a Kia.

what's a frag for this feel

>>18079144
blackrock thanks you for your continued support and unwavering dedication
>>18079147
a frag for a dead meme? probably something hyped and then forgotten like bois imperial.

@ me when she leaves the thread, thanks

>>18079160
there are no women in this thread. if you want trannies you could ask the coomer mutt to hook you up with some.

>>18078879
for women? idk
the mens one was amazing

>>18079009
And yeah, it only becomes more detergentmaxxed later on. People praise its longevity, but the dry down is nowhere as good as the opening or heart notes.

at least she always knows when I'm referring to her

>>18079009
>>18079170
>complaining that LVMHslop is designed to impress at the surface with nothing backing it underneath
what are you, 5? that’s their entire brand philosophy

>>18079170
do you think that we care, faggot? fuck off

Anotger day, another frag thread slipping deeper into schizophrenia

>Sauvage is le bad because it's popular

Why the fuck are women so retarded

>>18079246
>>Sauvage is le bad because it's popular
that's true tougheverbeit

>>18079177
>>18079185
Why doublepost your schizo faggotry?

>>18079246
or maybe it’s just bad because it smells bad.
>>18079255
lol, someone is peeved

>>18078902
The aftershave is potentially a different fragrance from the edt. Same thing I noticed with Guerlain vetiver aftershave. It’s very herbal. Heavy on oakmoss. Brilliant fragrance.

>>18079246
>Sauvage is le bad because it's popular

This happens here more frequently then it does with women.

>>18079246
She always sounds stuffed up lmao
Allergies?

>>18079246
Women absolutely love Dior Sauvage though. You will get more compliments from them with than with the other blue fragrances.

>>18079255
that was my first post in the thread

>>18079272
you just opened a new window

>>18078942
Mousse Illuminee and Guerlain Vetiver are my favorite fragrances. Recommend me a fragrance, please. I have sampled all Rogues.

>>18079271
>the heckin complimenterinos
pathetic

Name some good freshies

Today I layered cool water with Caesars man.

>>18079307
>>18079307
Great idea. Please create that godly juice and sell it, take all my money.

>>18079303
acqua di gio absolu

>>18079323
armani has never and will never make a good perfume

>>18078885
the EDP projects slightly worse (but in my opinion, this isn't a bad thing. the EDT projects too much imo), but sillage is slightly better. Scent bubble is a bit smaller, but it does have the tendency to hang in the air and leave a trail.

>>18079334
wrong, Armani Eau Pour Homme was pretty good

why does it smell so bad on skin tho

>>18079356
completely unremarkable eau de cologne. citrus has been done a million times better, millions of times.

Anick goutals ambre fetiche is really good boys

>>18079360
probably because it smells bad in general

>>18079360
>wearing the soulless clone instead of based and twinkpilled Ganymede
What you're smelling is the disapproval of the gods themselves. Watch out for eagles when you're wearing that abomination

>>18078696
No one asked

Old Spice Pure Sport. Simple, eloquent, yet alluring

>>18079361
what are some better citrus edcs?

>>18079009
The reason it's so good is because it's so simple. I recommend buying it cause you can refill it for almost $100 dollars less and it's beautiful in the air. We can find it boring cause the scent profile is similar throughout but normies at work and school will eat it up. My wife is obsessed with it

>>18079009
Nasomatto fragrances are more expensive per ml. Just to put it into perspective

>>18079378
concisely and not exhaustively: pour monsieur, eau sauvage (vintage), eau de guerlain, rochas moustache concentree (again vintage), dior eau fraiche (again again vintage), and chanel’s eau de cologne.

>>18079378
Tommy Bahama St. Kitts

>>18079381
your wife is a mentally stunted child.
>>18079388
and they smell about as terrible too! glad so many grifters are making cash money off of gullinle idiots in the fine fragrance industry.

>>18079389
been thinking about trying eau de guerlain as an alternative to eau sauvage. thoughts on differences between the two?

if you like fragrances so much then im pretty sure you take care of how your home smells right? post your nice smelling plants, reed diffusers or other aromatherapy appliance you use

>>18079412
aren’t you the same guy who was asking this question a few days ago? i already answered you. eau sauvage is more dewy and hedionic while eau de guerlain is more floral and verbena focused. surprisingly, they’re not that far apart as in terms of overall accords, but both are different enough to warrant owning.

>>18079394
No one asked you

>>18079420
keep sobbing for me

Cry on my cock

>>18079426
i bet you wish anyone would touch your cock

>>18079414
Fred solls incense and some Jap sandlewood I don't know the symbols for
A few candles here and there, but they generally suck and are for girls

Haven't been here for at least a year, snice to see the thread still going strong.

I've still been sampling perfumes and buying them, but not paying any attention to them online. What's the latest?

What's popular here?

Are fragrance youtube people still a thing?

Is Jeremy still around?

>>18079449
>What's popular here?
"Old money" fragrances and Fragrance One are the only things that aren't shit on in this general
>Are fragrance youtube people still a thing?
Not really. Most people here are tiktok zoomers
>Is Jeremy still around?
Yes, but don't get attached. The man has 8 months to live, tops

It doesn't get better than this.

Is Dior Homme Cologne good? Opinions?

>>18079487
A bit boring, even when compared to other fragrances in the Dior Homme line, but it's inoffensive.

>>18079449
>thread still going strong
kek

>>18079381
I kind of suspect that I oversprayed it on the first try, because the detergent feel got so overwhelming and afterwards I tried to spray it on a strip and it radiates around more than I expected. Still not very impressed after the first try, but I know better than write any perfume off just because of the first try from a decant because dosage and expectations vs. reality also play a big role.

Maybe it feels better with next try, or maybe I just have to accept that the citrus freshie genre can’t impress me, and I just have to settle to vetiver / lighter fougeres for summer.

>>18079449
H24

How retarded would it be to blind buy Amouage Interlude Black Iris?

>>18079515
>How retarded would it be to buy Amouage
it would be very retarded

>>18078273
Based Jeff. Little guy flew too close to the sun. Traded in his jet for wings.

>>18079547
He was a visionary and a real ladies man

>>18078751
>guy sniffed too much perfume

>>18077608
I'm a 19 year old twink faggot what fragrance would suit me?

>>18079627
>faggot
le male

>buy a sample
>love it
>buy a 10ml decant
>love it
>buy a full bottle
>hate it after a month or so
This happens so fucking often.

>>18079487
sweaty airy lemon smell on me

>>18079246
I don't like Sauvage simply because it smells like sleezeball. I don't think it's a bad fragrance at all, it's just not an energy I want to have. I think the Parfum and Elixir are good though.

>>18079627
androfrags like lazy sunday morning, br540, or santal 33

>>18079627
Dylan blüe

>>18079630
are you stupid or a woman?

>>18079682
elixir smells like maple syrup

>>18079717
what's the difference?

>>18078825
can't really hang with lapidus but that 308 targa is so cherry
>>18079279
great taste. perhaps you might like hermes bel ami vetiver? its an oblique take on an 80s leather daddy powerhouse with a vetiver edge, but with the signature hermes elegance. really cool frag and an outlier in hermes' current range

Here's the SOTC for April, pared down a few bottles which means I can justify trying a few new decants at least.
Any recommendationgs /frag/?
really liking invasion barbare and hdp 1725 atm, lavender will always be my favourite note

got rid of
>lapidus pour homme
>dali pour homme
>cerruti 1881
>sung pour homme
>ceasar's man
>quorum
>grey flannel

>>18079753
You're missing something.

>>18079476
Amen

>>18079753
Too bad you didn't like LPH, I think it's grand

>>18079627
Ultra Male or Le Beau.

>>18079753
>got rid of
>good fragrances
why would one do that?

>>18079753
a good collection ruined by maison faggot turkmenistan and tom bored, as well as platinum shitgoiste and dick de vervins if we’re being nitpicky. should have gotten rid of those instead of lapidus, dali or grey flannel.

>>18078461
are you ashamed of your pussy frag brand ?

>>18079784
lol the irate italian is back to defend bernard arnault skinwalking acqua di parma

>>18079753
How do you like Pour Monsieur, Antaeus, and Eau Sauvage? Would you recommend them in 2024?

>>18079753
I'm offended by the moustache
How you deal with that sweet orange is beyond my understanding

>>18079627
My last 19 year old twink faggot was wearing some kind of body mist from bath and body works that had some kind off aquatic name but smelled like bubble gum. He was freshly showered and shaved, but by the end of the night the smell of the body mist combined with his natural scent was incredible. Somebody should commission Aron Terrance Hughes or some other degenerate sex pervert perfumer to make a fragrance that smells like bubble gum and fresh twink sweat. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he already makes one.

That being said, just buy Layton

>>18079801
>Would you recommend them in 2024?
such a stupid sentence that I am at a loss for words

>>18079780
>criticizes chanel and houbigant
>ignores diptyque and goldfield & banks
hoot really

>>18079627
What is it about Sweden and pederastic cinema? It's a really common theme.

>>18079627
Ganymede

>>18079817
those are the shitty chanels and houbigants, and i didnt even register he had dipdick. honestly half this collection could be pruned and be the better for it

>>18079830
kill yourself masstige retard

>>18079837
lol, not liking dipdick, tom bored and faggot turkmenistan makes me a masstige retard? ok

>>18079843
>masstige
Why does no one in this general know what this word means? Just stop using it. You all sound so fucking stupid

>>18079845
all those brands are masstige (they are also bad)

>>18079843
>h-hey i dont like the generic houses im not masstige i swear!!
embarrasing really, not being able to form your own thoughts. try /r/fragrances retard

>>18079848
>all those brands are masstige
No, they're not. Masstige does not mean "mass appealing and expensive"

>>18079850
lol wtf are you smoking? since when is houbigant a generic house? and i took issue with platinum shitgoiste specifically, not chanel
>>18079852
it means mass appealing while trying to sell a luxurious, prestigious image, which all of those brands are guilty of.

>>18079857
>since when is houbigant a generic house?
since 1882. leave before you start advertising arab clones and posting youtube reviews

>>18079862
lol if you think houbigant today has any relevance to the house that made parfum ideal or fougere royale beyond name. also referring to them as generic, really sad stuff.

>>18079863
>h-hey i can namedrop houbigant fragrances
lol
>really sad stuff
the only sad stuff here is that your parents have to bare with your existence. tasteless and masstige consumers like you are the very definition of iq deficit

>>18079857
>it means mass appealing while trying to sell a luxurious, prestigious image, which all of those brands are guilty of.
Oh, gee thanks, anon. Thanks for rephrasing that while expressing the exact same wrong-ass thing. It has nothing to do with "mass appeal", faggot. It's about downward brand extension. It's when a luxury brand releases a more affordable product, or when a non-prestige brand releases a more expensive product. It has fuck all to do with mass appeal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masstige

>>18079867
and now you’re just raging vainly against absolutely nothing, rofl

>>18079870
>rofl
see >>18079837

>>18079869
>It’s about downward brand extension. It's when a luxury brand releases a more affordable product
so in other words tom faggot counts because his (overpriced) perfume line is an extension of his (even more overpriced) clothing.
>or when a non-prestige brand releases a more expensive product
so MFK counts because it’s really just the francis kurkdijan name going from mainstream perfumes like le male to his own high end boutique line. dipdick is the only one that’s tenuously related, and even then it’s owned by private equity which can count as a downwards extension of a luxury line in the same way as creed. so thanks for proving me right.
>>18079873
i get you’re pretending to be angry, but could you try to make it a tiny bit more convincing please?

>>18079874
>so in other words tom faggot counts because his (overpriced) perfume line is an extension of his (even more overpriced) clothing.
Tom Ford comes the closest to meeting the specifications, but not for the reasons you listed. Generally the pricing of a "masstige" product slots in somewhere between mid-market and premium. The pricing of Tom Ford Private Blend fragrances would be considered premium by any reasonable metric, and other Tom Ford fragrances are still generally a bit more expensive than the average designer fragrance. Something like Noir Extreme could be considered "masstige" based on it's pricing. Something like Sauvage Elixir could also reasonably called "masstige." On the niche end, Creed's Acqua Originale line would have counted back when they were still making it.

MFK is just a prestige brand. Having released fragrances as a perfumer for less expensive brands in the past has no bearing on it.

>>18079890
>Having released fragrances as a perfumer for less expensive brands in the past has no bearing on it.
MFK is no different from tom ford in that it’s selling a name, except in this case it’s the name of a perfumer rather than a fashion designer, and no one would care about the FK name if not for his popular mainstream perfumes. it definitely counts as an upscale branding of something formerly mainstream
also
>creed
>niche
LMFAO

Would Tom Ford still get shit on if it was 100ml for $100

Fucked the living shit out of a Spanish chick in the dorms
>SOTN: CH Bad Boy Extreme

>>18079896
it would get shit on for being just bad rather than both bad and expensive

>>18079894
>MFK is no different from tom ford in that it’s selling a name
I genuinely am baffled at how pointlessly obstinate you are being. I feel like I'm stuck in the Patrick's wallet meme. It has NOTHING to do with mass appeal, popularity, or anything other subjective metric you want to pull out of your ass. It is about pricing. Nothing more. MFK releases premium to super-premium priced fragrances. It would be a prestige brand regardless of if he was selling BR540, whatever fragrance happens to be is your most favoritist perfumer ever, or simply farting into a vat of perfumer's alcohol. It's based on standard industry pricing.
>creed
>niche
>LMFAO
Yes. Again, I don't give a single flying fuck whether or not a brand is up to your standards. Creed is a niche brand.

>>18079902
>Creed is a niche brand.
That's even less controversial than calling it a prestige brand. Niche just means it's expensive and the company exclusively sells perfume
>BUT MUH BLACKROCK
Doesn't matter. Creed as a commercial entity sells perfume and nothing but perfume.

>>18079902
>MFK releases premium to super-premium priced fragrances.
based on what metric? how is MFK’s line premium compared to the likes of jerkoff or roja dove? either you define a strict price range that defines masstige or you’re just arbitrarily assigning the label to things based on whether or not the brand also releases cheap dogshit.
>Creed is a niche brand.
i don’t know how to tell you this, but basically every creed perfume pre-90s is just olivier creed flipping rejected perfumes by pierre bourdon at a premium price. they’re literally mainstream perfumes sold for triple the cost using phony marketing and a dead legacy of being a tailor.
>>18079906
so MFK must be niche then too because they exclusively sell perfume. so must caron, a house with nothing in common with either of the 2 aforementioned. none of these definitions make any sense.

>>18079909
>based on what metric
Pricing. It's not hard. Most perfume on the market sells at a significantly lower price point than MFK.
>either you define a strict price range that defines masstige or you’re just arbitrarily assigning the label to things based on whether or not the brand also releases cheap dogshit.
I don't have to, the market already does that. Most perfume retails for around $60-$100 for a full sized bottle. If a particular brand mostly sells fragrances that are priced lower than that, it is an economy brand. If it generally sells fragrances that cost more than that, it is a premium brand. If it sells for ridiculously more than that, it is a super premium brand. Prestige brands are generally defined as selling premium to super premium priced products.

Are there companies that mostly sell higher priced fragrances than MFK? Yes. That does not stop MFK from being considered a prestige brand. Porsche is a prestige automotive brand. The existence of Bugatti does not stop Porsche from being a prestige brand.

>so MFK must be niche then too because they exclusively sell perfume
kek, what? Yes. The answer is obviously yes. Do you think "niche" just means good or something?

>retarded arguing and bitching
again?
again, I sure do love fragrance.

>>18079909
>i don’t know how to tell you this, but basically every creed perfume pre-90s is just olivier creed flipping rejected perfumes by pierre bourdon at a premium price. they’re literally mainstream perfumes sold for triple the cost using phony marketing and a dead legacy of being a tailor.
LMAO, this is fucking hilarious. Not that anything you're saying about Creed is incorrect, but that you have no idea what a niche house is. Can you please define what you think that term means?

>>18079922
Retarded bitching and arguing about frags is still discussing frags. What is the problem?

>>18079909
>i don’t know how to tell you this, but basically every creed perfume pre-90s is just olivier creed flipping rejected perfumes by pierre bourdon at a premium price.
That's not really fair. A lot of the post-90s releases are also that. Silver Mountain Water came out in 97, iirc. Also, every single Creed release would still be that had it not been for Bourdon's retirement. And you can also thank him for Aventus as well. While that one was Herault, it is heavily inspired by Bourdon's signature style. I'm the guy you've been arguing with, btw. I feel the need to point that out since you think I've got some kind of hard-on for Creed. I'm well aware of what that company is.

>>18079919
>Most perfume on the market sells at a significantly lower price point than MFK
>If it generally sells fragrances that cost more than that, it is a premium brand.
most perfume on the market sells at a significantly lower price point than the average chanel as well. you cannot get a bottle of, say, antaeus for less than $130. so the likes of chanel (excluding les exclusifs, for sake of argument), guerlain, dior (excluding the retarded prive collection), hermes (excluding hermessence) etc. all count as prestige brands, and so does MFK, and yet somehow tom ford counts as masstige and not prestige despite being more costly than the aforementioned 4. this classification system makes no sense.
>kek, what? Yes. The answer is obviously yes. Do you think "niche" just means good or something?
so here is a short list of niche brands, according to you.
>caron
>MFK
>creed
>roja dove
>jo malone
>frederic malle
>acqua di parma
>amouage
and somehow it also includes
>rogue perfumery
>parfum d'empire
>histoires de parfum
>jacques fath
>papillon
>bogue
but somehow this label also excludes
>parfums de nicolai (sells candles and home fragrance)
>tauer (sells soap)
>serge lutens (sells home fragrance)
>l'artisan parfumeur (sells soap)
>houbigant (sells soap)
>robert piguet (sells soap and candles)
>ormonde jayne (sells home fragrance)
>diptyque (sells soaps, candles, etc. etc.)
do you see how the term niche suddenly loses all meaning, or at least whatever little meaning it had in the context of fragrance discussion?
>>18079924
whatever it means, it does not mean whatever the fuck the above implies.
>>18079928
i assumed they stopped using bourdon when abominations like love in white came out, so i created an arbitray cutoff point without really caring about when olivier deemed it fit to release another bourdon reject. either way, they are a scam artist pretending to be artisanal.

choosing /frag/ as the place where you waste all of your time shitposting and baiting people sure is strange
actively trying to upset people about the alcohol mixed with fragrant oil that they spray on their skin seems like such a waste of time

>>18079931
>so here is a short list of niche brands, according to you.
I honestly can't even tell if you're joking. Yes. Without a hint of irony, the answer to your question is yes. A niche house is a premium priced brand that only makes perfume. It does not mean they make fragrances that appeal to a specific niche, it means their niche as a business is perfumery. I think you're under the impression that "niche" means good. It doesn't.

People will often call more expensive lines within a designer house "niche", but that's not really correct. In these cases it's probably preferable to refer to them as premium, or "niche priced".

Also, almost everything in your third subset is usually called niche without much fuss. If they're selling candles and soap, that's usually not atnissue. It's more so whether or not they sell clothes. Creed sells Aventus candles and body wash, but that doesn't make it a designer house. And houses like Davidoff and Montblanc and Dunhill don't really make clothes, but they make products that are unrelated to perfumery and their fragrances aren't premium priced so nobody would call them niche.

Should I wear Bleu de Chanel for playing FFXIV?

>>18079943
there is literally no fragrance enthusiast in the world who would claim that serge lutens and l’artisan parfumeur aren’t niche. hell, they’re arguably the originators of niche perfume, even if they’ve gone considerably more mainstream than they were 20 years ago. likewise with tauer and nicolai who are 2 of the most famous niche perfumers today, literally how can you suddenly discount them as not being niche because they make soaps and candles that i had to google to even find out about? for the record, i consider diptyque to be a niche house too even though i hate them. it’s clear that your definitions of brand placement in the industry exist solely in the realm of pricing and product lines and care nothing for art direction, which is precisely what makes all 5 of those brands niche in the eyes of perfume enthusiasts, while creed, roja dove and caron are not. are you actually a perfume enthusiast or are you just a financebro pretending to be one?

>>18079948
>there is literally no fragrance enthusiast in the world who would claim that serge lutens and l’artisan parfumeur aren’t niche. hell, they’re arguably the originators of niche perfume, even if they’ve gone considerably more mainstream than they were 20 years ago. likewise with tauer and nicolai who are 2 of the most famous niche perfumers today, literally how can you suddenly discount them as not being niche because they make soaps and candles that i had to google to even find out about?
Did you not read the third paragraph? I said basically everything on your third list is niche. If they sell soap and candles (especially if those soaps and candles are based on their perfume) they're still a niche house. If they sell clothing or other products that aren't related to fragrance, it would be considered a designer house.

>for the record, i consider diptyque to be a niche house too even though i hate them. it’s clear that your definitions of brand placement in the industry exist solely in the realm of pricing and product lines and care nothing for art direction
That's correct. I've said it several times now, but I think you're actual point of contention here is stemming from the fact that you seem to think "niche" means a fragrance house that is particularly unique or artistic. It doesn't. Again, the term (as it is used in industry parlance) does not mean they sell perfume that is unique or appeals to a niche segment of the population, it means that their niche as a business is perfumery. There are a lot of niche houses that make nothing but overpriced trash. And there are a lot of cheaper fragrances that stand head and shoulders above anything Creed or PdM puts out. My referring to said houses as "niche" should not be taken as an endorsement of their products. It is a completely dispassionate designation based solely on their business model.

>>18079956
>Again, the term (as it is used in industry parlance) does not mean they sell perfume that is unique or appeals to a niche segment of the population, it means that their niche as a business is perfumery.
it’s cool and all that you care so much about business, but in the fragrance enthusiast thread, we really don’t give a shit about the strict business definition of a term. niche perfumes conform to the perfume industry and perfume community definitions of the term, not the business school graduate definition of the term.
>There are a lot of niche houses that make nothing but overpriced trash.
correct, i named diptyque as one, and i would be willing to include the likes of le labo and byredo as well. all are dogshit brands, but all are niche. as far as the perfume industry goes, niche is about art direction, not product lines or product positioning.
>And there are a lot of cheaper fragrances that stand head and shoulders above anything Creed or PdM puts out.
creed and pdm are not bad because they are masstige, they are bad and they are masstige. good masstige exists too, like chanel’s les exclusifs, but no one discusses them here anyways.

sotd: allure homme edition blanche, smells so good just wish the performance wasnt so shit

>>18079995
quite shit

>>18079963
>it’s cool and all that you care so much about business, but in the fragrance enthusiast thread, we really don’t give a shit about the strict business definition of a term. niche perfumes conform to the perfume industry and perfume community definitions of the term, not the business school graduate definition of the term.
I wouldn't say this is a "business school" definition so much as it is just the definition as it is used as an industry standard. This is how the businesses themselves and almost all of the prominent voices within the industry define the term. Yes, there is a subset of people on the Internet who will claim that "niche" means artistic or unique, but the problem with defining the term is way is that it is both completely subjective and overlooks vast swaths of the industry.

When you use the term "niche", the fact that a designation has been made implies that there is an antithesis. If some houses are niche, that means other houses aren't. In the fragrance industry, the antithesis of niche is designer (well, mostly. It kind of has multiple antitheses because there are clone houses and indie houses, which don't fit perfectly into either category). Designer houses are much easier to define because they are generally associated with things other than fragrance. No one would argue that Dior, Versace or Gucci are designer houses because they are literally attached to clothing designers. The problem with defining niche in the way you're attempting to is that we're left with a fuckload of houses that meet the criteria for neither. If Creed isn't niche or designer (and obviously no one could argue it's an indie or clone house) then what is it? I guess you can try and call it "masstige", but you would be changing the definition of that word. And that's not an opinion, the two dudes who created the term literally define it completely differently than you do and I already posted receipts over an hour ago

>>18080002
>No one would argue that Dior, Versace or Gucci aren't designer houses*

>>18080002
>the problem with defining the term is way is that it is both completely subjective
buddy, if you think there isn’t a single thing about this hobby that isn’t completely subjective, i don’t know what to tell you.
>Designer houses are much easier to define because they are generally associated with things other than fragrance. No one would argue that Dior, Versace or Gucci are designer houses because they are literally attached to clothing designers. The problem with defining niche in the way you're attempting to is that we're left with a fuckload of houses that meet the criteria for neither.
until you reach a house like guerlain, which has never ever designed a single garment, but somehow still counts as designer simply because it’s not niche. but if they’re classified as niche, we have to conveniently ignore their massive cosmetics line (which makes exponentially more revenue than their entire fragrance line, by the way) or their massive historical legacy and worldwide distribution on par with any socalled designer. suddenly they don’t seem so niche anymore. or how about robert piguet and jacques fath? both of these brands were clothing designers, but now they sell high end perfume exclusively under the same name. no sane person would compare them to versace, but by your definition, they technically count.
long story short, this system is broken no matter how you try to spin it, so no point pretending like your way of typecasting brands is any less broken than the standard fragrance community way.
>I guess you can try and call it "masstige", but you would be changing the definition of that word.
we literally already redefined the definition of niche in the perfume industry earlier. redefining masstige really makes little difference in light of how divergent and significant the change of the definition of niche to fit the perfume industry’s standards is.

>>18080001
if you liked it i would be forced to discard it, midget man

>>18080017
hilariously stupid

>>18077614
I just bought the Dior Sauvage Elixir, one of my free samples is the Dior Sauvage eua de perfume.

Both smell incredibly nice.

>>18077899
Looks gay, bottle looks like a n_gger.

This is a Dior board.

>>18080030
>>18080032
lol how embarrassing

>>18080010
>>18080010
>until you reach a house like guerlain, which has never ever designed a single garment, but somehow still counts as designer simply because it’s not niche. but if they’re classified as niche, we have to conveniently ignore their massive cosmetics line (which makes exponentially more revenue than their entire fragrance line, by the way) or their massive historical legacy and worldwide distribution on par with any so called designer.
I actually didn't realize they sold cosmetics. Guerlain's status a designer comes up a lot in these sorts of discussions. Selling cosmetics does help solidify their status as designer a bit more (a designer house doesn't have to sell clothing specifically. Montblanc, Dunhill, Davidoff and all the car companies with fragrance lines are designer despite selling things other than clothes), but technically they'd be considered designer anyway given their price point and wide distribution. A niche house is a brand that mainly makes fragrances, has an above average price point, and has limited distribution when compared to designer.
>or how about robert piguet and jacques fath? both of these brands were clothing designers, but now they sell high end perfume exclusively under the same name. no sane person would compare them to versace, but by your definition, they technically count.
Count as what? I'm not entirely sure if you're calling them designer or niche. If they sell nothing but expensive perfume, they are niche. Creed used to sell clothes at one point, too.
>no matter how you try to spin it, so no point pretending like your way of typecasting brands is any less broken than the standard fragrance community way.
My way is the standard fragrance community way. You're not the only person I've heard try to define "niche" in this way, but the majority of both the industry and community define it my way.
https://scentsocial.co.uk/blogs/news/niche-perfumes-vs-designer-perfumes

>>18080010
Perhaps the problem is using terms for their emotional context then trying to come up with a definition after the fact that fits that emotional connotation but only applies to the houses we feel like it should. Perhaps if we first come up with useful definitions with Perhaps even new words and then let the emotional connotations of that new word develop as it may organically.

>>18080056
perchance

>>18080053
>I actually didn't realize they sold cosmetics
fun fact: the lipstick as a concept was invented by guerlain. they invented the first lip pigment shaped as a solid stick for application and convenience. they also invented the original nivea cream (and then promptly sold it off, very stupidly)
>but technically they'd be considered designer anyway given their price point and wide distribution.
the fact that we have to say “but technically” and then lump them together with hugo boss and carolina herrera is plain embarrassing.
in all actual, guerlain is a legacy perfumer house, along with caron and houbigant, or even something like 4711 or acqua di parma would technically count. these are holdovers from the golden age of perfumery that began as purely perfume houses. trying to lump them in with the trend of fashion designers making branded perfumes that proceeded them is just historical illiteracy.
>Count as what? I'm not entirely sure if you're calling them designer or niche.
they are former designer houses that have turned niche.
>Creed used to sell clothes at one point, too.
but never at the same time as their perfume business, which is not the case for either of those 2.
>My way is the standard fragrance community way.
it’s really not, the current fragrance community has long realized that you cannot simply define a brand by its business practices alone. the article you linked is about as in touch as a vogue article about baccarat rouge in this day and age is. i can’t take it seriously at all.
>>18080056
borderline incomprehensible word salad.

What are the useful characteristics or qualities of a perfume house when it comes having meaningful definitional separation among them?

>>18078856
Bought a few samples of Le Lion and Musc Ravageur. Can't really get Jicky anywhere but Guerlain so gonna wait to pull the trigger on that. Kouros supposedly has some sort of popularity among the homosexuals so that one is off the table. And yes, buy the Kiehl's. I already bought another bottle of that stuff and I'm eyeing some of the oil since it's not in stock anymore (possibly discontinued). The sillage isn't great on my skin but it makes for a nice, intimate scent if you're looking for that, or if you're out in a situation where people are moving around you closely.

>>18080101
pricing, brand history and artistic direction

>>18080110
Does scale matter? As in the total volume of bottles they can produce? And regarding brand history is that subjective and ambiguous? Certainly it will affect how people feel about the brand but it seems hard to have a good definitional.separation of good versus bad history. Does the fact that a house has or had alternative, non fragrance based products matter?

>>18080114
scale and distribution definitely matter, but probably not as much as the aforementioned 3.
>brand history is that subjective and ambiguous?
it’s pretty objective that guerlain predate the fashion designer fragrance trend, or that l’artisan parfumeur was the first real niche fragrance brand along with serge lutens. there are definitely debatable things, but there are many things that are taken as fact in the fragrance community.
>Does the fact that a house has or had alternative, non fragrance based products matter?
depends on the history of the house and the relation of said products to the fragrance line, probably.

>>18080101
do it smell good?

>>18078942
No kidding. Everyone hyped this one to hell and back but it literally just smells like grape cough syrup and NOTHING else. As linear and one-noted as it gets. What the fuck happened.

Still on the hunt for a good daily. Ordered one each of pic related, pretty excited. Tried to get decants but each of these are so cheap for a full bottle that it seems nobody bothers.

>>18079258
You all hate Sauvage because it's throws the reality of the world in your face every time you smell it.
Sauvage isn't brilliant, it isn't exceptional, it isn't magical. It is simply well put together, friendly, out going, doesn't quit and manages to fit in without changing in almost every situation. And that is more than good enough because the overwhelming majority of people love it. And this is documented time and time again, video after video and post after post. People love Sauvage.
Sauvage as a fragrance is what you wish you could be as a person, but aren't. Instead you'll sit around circle jerking the rare ingredients and exotic creations, lauding each other for your superior taste, looking down on the plebs who shower Sauvage with compliments. Why don't they compliment you? Isn't it obvious how much better your fragrance is? It's niche for gods sakes!
Nevermind that you don't actually understand what niche even means.
So you'll post and post, seething and pretending to laugh at your own wit each time you meme about Bois Imperial. But one black day you'll crack and do the unthinkable: You'll buy Sauvage. You won't post about it here of course, my god why would you? You have a completely anonymous reputation to protect! You'll spray it on and part of you will be ashamed and feeling transgressive, but a small sliver of you will feel hopeful for a change. Maybe, just maybe, today I'll be noticed. Today I'll get a compliment. I just want to feel what it's like one time, everyone else loves this stuff, surely there's one compliment left for me?
I genuinely pity you when you still won't get a compliment and are forced to confront the reality that even a jovial titan like Sauvage cannot mask how rotten, desolate and unappealing you are.

So keep shitting on Sauvage, spray your niche of the month or whatever arab oil is getting hawker now. Much like a tranny pretends to be a woman you are equally delusional in your claims of superiority. Cope and seethe.

>>18080174
you need to spam this copypasta a lot more for it to catch on. as is it’s just whatever.

>>18080174
I like Bleu de Chanel

>>18080174
based sausageposter

>>18080077
>fun fact: the lipstick as a concept was invented by guerlain
Huh. That fact was pretty fun to be honest
>they are former designer houses that have turned niche.
Then they're niche houses. Seems uncontroversial.
> the current fragrance community has long realized that you cannot simply define a brand by its business practices alone
And no one is asking for you to do that. Whether a house is niche or designer says nothing about the quality or artistry of the house. It is a simple designation that communicates certain objective information about the brand to the consumer. If a person is told a fragrance comes from a designer house, they will know it is something that can likely be found most places fragrances are sold, have a very broad idea about how much it is likely to cost, and that it's likely made using industry standard ingredients. If a person is told that a fragrance comes from a niche house, they will know they can expect to pay more for it, that it will be found in fewer retail locations and that it may or may not be crafted using more expensive ingredients. I'd say higher quality ingredients, but that's not always the case, given that taking a perfectly fine formula and swapping each ingredient out with a more expensive alternative (as Olivier Creed allegedly did with Bourdon's formulas according to the book) does not necessarily equate with a better fragrance.

It is a simple and objective metric which has utility. Conversely, your definition is completely subjective gatekeeping, and the only purpose it serves is to get into pissing matches on fragrance forums. It's just absurdly useless.
>it’s really not, the current fragrance community
If buy "the current fragrance community" you mean people whose opinions align with yours, you're just doing more gatekeeping, but you obviously know that. If you go basenotes, fragrantica, reddit, facebook, youtube, telegram groups, etc. the vast majority of them are going to call Aventus a niche fragrance

>>18080231
>>18080231
>>18080231

New thread

>>18077899
Why would you smell like picrel when you can get 200 ml L'Eau d'Issey and smell great forever?

>>18079753
no cap Dakar. You have my same taste, you'll love it. Also where the fuck is your Fahrenheit. Need some violet leaf in your collection.
>>18079792
nope
>>18079941
feels actually good that faggot is wasting his time being terminally online here, on working days. You already know he is a worthless neet.
>>18080168
if you like Lomani get Dakar