/fa/ - Fashion

lasted trees on loafers was a mistake, it's such a bitch to take in and out

>>18054501
sand them down a little?

the ostrich leather would actually look so good if it didn't have all these erect nipples
the texture is crazy otherwise

>>18054542
sand them down a little?

>>18054539
looks like the gemming unglued from under the footbed

>>18054542
these look like some weird kink shoe for CBT.

>>18054501
how is the suede? do you have EG to compare it to?

>>18054555
Is there a boot where this is not a possible issue? Does the McKay stitch stop this? I know nicks stopped doing the McKay stitch now....

>>18054618
>Is there a boot where this is not a possible issue?
yeah no gemming on a handwelted boot a la whites

>>18054620
>>18054618
Or just stichdown which is cheaper than hand welted lmao.

>>18054620
>>18054622

So like nick's builder pros for example would those also be considered stichdown? I'm not seeing where they mention that on their website. Is there an easy way to tell by looking at a boot that it's stitchdown?

>>18054635
>>So like nick's builder pros for example would those also be considered stichdown?
Yes
>Is there an easy way to tell by looking at a boot that it's stitchdown?
Sure, just research what stitch down looks like and you'll be able to tell the difference between that and good year welted or blake stitch.
It's pretty obvious.

>>18054635
>Is there an easy way to tell by looking at a boot that it's stitchdown?
anon, its pretty unique when the upper and is flared out and stitched down onto the sole

>>18054618
Any handwelted or stitchdown boot. gemming coming undone is rarely an issue in the first place though.

>>18054640
>>18054641
Yeah as soon as I posted that I realized I'm retarded. Is it still easy to resole a crepe sole on a stitchdown boot? I read that's one of the advantages of a Goodyear welt is easy resole.

Also are those boots I posted in the first pic completely fucked or can I get them repaired or fix them somehow. Thanks.

>>18054646
hard to say, the boot won't disintegrate in your hands right away, more of a ticking time bomb

>>18054643
Well it's happened to two pairs of boots now so I'm a bit irritated and would like to get around this issue altogether. Idk why this happens when I know tons of people wear the same boot every day no rotating but it happens to me. I even rotated this pair out daily for the most part and it still happened.

So do these boots not have a "rib" on the insole that the welt stitch goes through like pic related? All of these diagrams show this rib so there is a stitch going through the insole along with the glue. So whites (cheaper models) and redwings just use a completely flat insole without ribs to stitch to?

>>18054651
was it on red wings by any chance?
because it's almost expected for them and it's incredibly common, even if most people don't report it, because they have no idea it's even happening on their boots
red wing substitutes "arch support" by tucking in uppers very far underneath the arch and making the waist of the boot really narrow, the footbed has a very distinct "8" shape
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExML2UUC2po&t=310
problem is you put your weight on it and push it apart, which eventually leads to the gemming giving way under the arch
it's basicly a design flaw on red wings part and doesn't happen as often or as soon on other goodyear welt boots

>>18054677
the rib is the gemming

Still seems like this can be an issue with stitchdown based on this thread? What am i missing here


>>18054680
yeah it happened to my redwings and now my goodyear welted whites

>>18054646
>Also are those boots I posted in the first pic completely fucked or can I get them repaired or fix them somehow
if a cobbler guts it they can replace the gemming and stitch it to the footbed

Brand new boots and one shoe is 0.5 shade darker than the other. Will this blend in over time through rough wear? I plan on wearing them for the next 5-10 years. If they will always be this far off in color, my autism can’t handle it.

>>18054931
brush hard

>>18054934
Which boot?

>>18054936
yes

>>18054937
This won’t work. Someone tell me that they will match color in a year of wear. I want to die.

>>18054931
just put some mink oil on the lighter boot.

>>18054952
I don’t want to resort to that yet. I’ve never had success with using mink oil to get the right color. And using it on just one boot is surely going to be difficult to get right. Will it just blend in over time? Does anyone know this from experience?

>>18054468
What do you guys think of these boots? I bought them a few years ago for the winter

Btw are there any brand recommendations? Or resources for learning to identify quality vs scam?

>>18054700
On stitchdown, there is no gemming, thus no chance of failure.

Wesco and Viberg are doing the same stitchdown sans Blake stitch since forever. It’s not a problem.

Just copped these for 350 euros.

>>18055076
How'd you find them so cheap?

>>18054572
It's great but I don't have EG to compare it to.

Way better than Carmina and Alden suede if that means anything

>>18054967
I've never had this problem but you coukd try putting a bit of conditioner on the lighter boot that's knownn to darken the leather a bit, like bick4 or obenauff.
Or don't buy thursdays ever again.

>>18055165
20% off on Mr. Porter

Someone here said those hooks are going to chew through the laces. Well you were wrong pal. My cat chewed through the laces.

> These are built on Meermin’s new Negon last. Usually wear a US size 11D. Ordered a 10E, which turned out to be really big. $15 and a week later, I received replacements in size 9D
> I decided I wanted to expose the natural shell underneath this finish, so I stripped the finish off using 91% isopropyl alcohol. The shell underneath was exposed to be more brown in color than burgundy, with variations in color/texture. After letting the alcohol evaporate, I applied two light coats of Saphir neutral Medaille d'Or Pommadier Cordovan Cream and then brushed vigorously.

be very carefully with who you take advice from

>>18055270
>buy boots you like
>wear said boots
>done
Why are boot autists incapable of comprehending such a simple process?

>>18055238
Why do you have a cat? Are you a fag?

>>18055280
Cats are based you fag.

>>18055301
Only roasties and fags have cats. Cat ownership is linked to mental illness.

>>18055270
must be reddit?
>Usually wear a US size 11D. Ordered a 10E, which turned out to be really big. $15 and a week later, I received replacements in size 9D
Sounds like he either sized down a whole size too much or had a wrong brannock reading the whole time.
>I decided I wanted to expose the natural shell underneath this finish, so I stripped the finish off using 91% isopropyl alcohol.
WHY

>>18055310
I'm neither and have cats and I'm not mentally ill and I could heem you any day of the week.

>>18055344
This is a redditor btw. Dogs are reddit. 4chan is a cat website.

>>18054931
>>18054939
Email the seller and ask them. My instinct is that they will even out, but once you wear them you won't be able to return.

>>18055270
what a retard

>>18055492
>>18055270
a horse died for this

>>18055270
>>18055492

The leather laces I got are too long but I fear if I cut them I will end up cutting them too short. I hate being this autistic sometimes.

My daily driver shoes are beat up and need to be put down, so I was thinking of taking the next step and get some nice quality boots. I was thinking about pic related, would these be good for daily use? Would the color be versatile enough? I was looking at a similar model with black leather but they have a white sole I'm not so sure about.

>>18055514
I trimmed about 3 in off each end of mine
still ridiculously long but not danger of tripping long

>>18055550
I think you'll get more use out of the standard 875s than these green ones

poorfag here, are these good enough to last me a year until im not fucking poor anymore?

>>18055514
Tie them then cut off the excess.

>>18055668
sure, almost everything should hold up at least a year, worn pretty casually at least

I just bought these. R8 and H8 because even I think Indy chukkas are a bit weird to an extent.

>>18055890
they are blue and that's cool

>>18055890
they're interesting

boots

>>18055238
>those hooks are going to chew through the laces
sand them down a little?

>>18055514
sand them down a little?

>>18055890
No step

what are some classic-looking european-style leather boots?

need a replacement and id like something that looks like its from the 40's or so, like this >>18055900 or this >>18055344 or this >>18055238

>>18054978
looks like a 3D render for a cartoon-style animation

i think meermin and berwick are reputable brands

>>18056011
your examples are 2 classic american style boots and the universal service boot style, which is also typically more popular outside of europe. are you sure you want euro boots?

>>18056016
idk much about boots so i was just going off what was posted in the thread

considering i already have some hefty black jump boots id like some waterproof brown boots for say 10C/50F weather or warmer

these from berwick look fine aesthethically for me, but i do want some actual waterproof utility as i live in a rainy, rural region

>>18056028
oh yeah and another thing, its not like i run into the mud everyday but id preffer if the sole was somewhat decent even if its somewhat of a "dress" shoe

ive been checking out berwick and meermin boots and they all seem to have very flat soles with only small circular holes for grips

are klondike boots good?

>>18054931
I got fucked by redwings with this, bought them at night like a retard and the next day realized they clearly gave me one that was a display model that had been sitting in the sun for the 5 years they went without selling any iron rangers. I didn’t do anything special and they’re getting closer to match with wear. Just take them to a shoe guy and they’ll get them matched faster.

>>18056028
just get crockett and jones

>>18056063
bit pricy innit

>>18055890
i have unlined and unstructured bluchers in navy suede, they are brilliant.

>>18056028
idk about berwick but meermin is ok. it's unlikely any boots is going to save your socks if you submerged them in water or a puddle, but they should all keep rain out.

>>18056044
the dainite studded sole style is actually pretty decent if your sticking to cities, grass, or groomed dirt. if your sloshing through mud, heavy brush, or walking on ice, you might want something with lugs. i wear my boots through a combination of wet mud and loose gravel for work and this flatter sole has been fine.

>>18056082
>i wear my boots through a combination of wet mud and loose gravel for work and this flatter sole has been fine.
what boots do you have friend? whats the one in the picture?

>>18056097
i am a man with more money than sense, you don't want these, but they're john lofgren donkey punchers. the sole is the vibram 700 v-bar if you want too look for something with them, but you shouldn't knock the studded sole. i have a pair with vibram's take on it and it's quite grippy.

Just took the plunge and ordered my first pair of Truman's.

>>18056080
I already have a navy suede Indy but it seems darker even under natural light. The lighter color in the navy nubuck is one of the reasons I grabbed them. I missed the full size indy that the Brogue Shop did in the leather.

What pisses me off the most about the patina thunderdome, is that it's a rip off of the indigo invitational, a denim fading competition that runs for a whole year not half a year, is completely free, doesn't require you to have some faggy discord let alone pay $50 to be in that discord and it still has tons of prizes because just like the patina thunderdome all of the prizes are donated by the brands.

>>18056138
what leather did you get?

>>18056155
Stone Rambler. Having them shipped out to Europe so no ETA on delivery right now but I'm excited.

this is a thread for cowboy boots too, right? I'm from Arizona in the USA. I wear these boots everyday I go out, with my jeans tucked into them and a felt hat + ponytail.

They are vintage gold label 1980 Tony Lama embossed leather pointed toe boots. I love to go out dressing like a cowboy, and my next purchase will be a tasteful skull belt buckle off etsy.

>>18054967
> Will it just blend in over time?
No. Any changes in colour will happen in unison. Two boots of a different colour aren't magically going to become the same colour over time. Just get a refund if it bothers you so much.

>>18056158
rambler is such a nice leather. i had a pair in coach rambler and i miss them almost every day.

>>18056164
what kind of sole do they have?

>>18056172
Thats a good question. The original soles are on it, made from el paso texas if you can make it out, but I don't know what kind of sole this is, unless you know.

>>18056184
oops I forgot to post the pic

>>18056186
1 more pic

>>18056061
>I didn’t do anything special and they’re getting closer to match with wear.
How long did this take and how drastic was the initial difference in color. My boots are almost identical in color. If you casually glanced at them, you wouldn’t notice a thing. But if you look closely you can see on is slightly darker.

>>18056164
based felt hat enjoyer

>>18056187
are those wooden or steel pegs?

>>18056158
>shipped out to Europe
Oof, set aside a couple hundred, friend.

https://www.loake.com/product/lytham-oxblood-grain/
https://crownnorthampton.com/products/woodford-desert-boot-horween-no-8-chromexcel
Looking for a nice chukka and these look pretty decent. Leaning more towards the rubber sole one from loakes.

>>18056209
they are metal so might be steel. I don't imagine the boot would have held together for the last 44 yrs if it wasn't some kind of hard metal.

>>18056722
I like the first one more

I own Crown Northampton sneakers, they are uncomfortable because they're so well built they end up being stiff.
I'm sure these will be great but chukkas have a pretty large uninterrupted leather panel at the front and chromexcel tends to crease like old man testicles.

Also check these on sale if they have your size
https://www.thenobleshoe.com/collections/discontinued-models/products/crockett-jones-molton-samples
https://www.thenobleshoe.com/collections/discontinued-models/products/carlos-santos-7991-charlie-chukka-scotchgrain
https://www.thenobleshoe.com/collections/discontinued-models/products/carlos-santos-7991-charlie-kudu-grain-chukka-boots

I'd say Carlos Santos is probably a slight step up on Loake in terms of quality? Maybe

>>18056932
yea you'd want the janus calf chukkas, i can imagine them to be stupidly comfortable.

>>18056932
>>18056934
im not really a fan of the suede northampton ones but thanks for the links. They have my size in 2 & 3 and the 2nd ones look gorgeous.

>>18056154
it's almost amazing how despite having a participation fee the entire contest is still just an unabashedly rigged wankfest for nicks and co than a contest run purely on sponsors
i mean the app you have to use for the thunderdome is literally a storefront for grant stone now

also having it be 6 months incentivizes the worst behaviours to somehow make the boots look more worn than they are
i'm somehow completely fine with the funny business that probably goes on in the indigo invitational and how these SEAmonkeys roll around on the beach all day to get their iron hearts to fade faster
but when people ruin their boots in 6 months and then never wear them again past the end of contest it's a lot different than people blowing out the crotch of their jeans by cultivating the most swamp ass they can in a year

>>18057085
>i'm somehow completely fine with the funny business that probably goes on in the indigo invitational and how these SEAmonkeys roll around on the beach all day to get their iron hearts to fade faster
The funny thing is, cheating is against the rules in the indigo invitational while cheating isn't against the rules in the Patrina thunderdome solely because they don't want to spend time on determining that.

opinions on chunky lug sole derbies? really like the post punk esque aesthetic, basically doc martens but not chinkshit should i buy?

>>18056395
Yeah, I'm fully prepared to get fucked by customs. My last couple of imports weren't too bad though so hopefully it's the same this time.

Guys I see a lot of people IRL wear this type of... uhhh.. whatever this is

Now Cavour has stocked a clone in their summer collection

But what's the original? What is everyone copying? And how do you call it?

>>18057177
it started with loro piana's open walk, because they were on HBO's succession, which was all the rage
it's called a laceless/excursionist chukka

alden had a slip-on chukka for ages, it just has the togue part over the sides

I'm not a shoe autist and mostly just post in /tip/. Ordered some Grant Stone Traveler loafers in bourbon suede. What's the consensus on these?

>>18057210
it's alright, hopefully you got your sizing right, because loafers are notoriously hard to get the fit right
i would get sole savers installed by a cobbler though
grant stones leather soles are really cheap and wear out ridiculously fast
the leather almost comes out in chunks

>>18057177
venetian loafer, but if you want open top >>18057203

>>18055075
Thanks for the video - that was helpful along with the redwing failure due to inherently poor engineering. The thing I dont understand is that you still are gluing the insole down to the midsole with a stitchdown (in the toebox at least). PNW boots dont use cork so they glue directly to the midsole which definitely seems better. But its still glue so how do you know it wont also fail in a pnw stitchdown? Thanks

>>18054680
>>18057243

meant to (you) you aswell

>>18057243
you're mixing up a bunch of different things

the insole is what the upper to sewn to

>>18057260
Thats what I thought too Ive seen this diagram but it doesnt appear thats how the PNW guys do it. The upper and midsole are stitched but not the insole. The insole is merely glued to the midsole it seems to me. This is why I am confused.

https://youtu.be/btL7wDJq5Ts?si=YRzcnFZul8Np0V5r&t=158

>>18057271
that nigs video is lying, they moved from fully handlasted to machine lasting

>>18057273
they machine last the toes, which is very common (also a lot cheaper machines to buy)

>>18057274
>nicks HAND made boots
>not HAND lasted

>>18057273
>>18057274
Okay the lying about hand lasting aside, isnt this diagram incorrect then at least as far as nicks (and I assume all pnw stitchdown)?

pic in post
>>18057260


Hence it still seems like youre still having ONLY glue holding down the insole in the toebox, correct? In this case its only slightly better than gemming in a GYW boot? more surface area yes, but you still rely only glue holding down your insole in a stitchdown

>>18057281
All the PNW boots are a hybdrid stitchdown/naildown construction anyway, that's why the upper is only flared out like 120 degrees, the rest of the upper is folded in and nailed down. All of my stitchdown boots have the upper folded underneath the insole with a midsole and outsole attached outside, never seen a boot constructed like the diagram above. I assume desert boots like Clark's are done that way.

>>18057243
Because Nicks boots doesn't stitch their insoles anymore, it's akin to simply gluing on gemming. The nails in the heel area and waist may keep it secure, but not stitching the front will be like having a loose-fitting sock in a shoe. The stitchdown may keep it in, but all of that friction is no good.
>>18057260
Incorrect, it is stitched to the midsole.
>>18057281
That diagram would only apply to boots like old Clarks desert boots, or Rhodesian/Dutch/Boer Veldtschoen. Not having the stitching is bad, as it is a point of failure.

PNW style shoemaking is not necessarily stitchdown, like Danners, Clarks and other brands. It only stitches down at the toe. It's both a manufacturing method, and a style.
>>18057288
The Austrians do something similar, but they actually handwelt the insole, then finish by flaring the leather out and stitching. Steinkogler has many examples of such shoes.

>>18055075
So with stitchdown there's no gemming but is it because an entire midsole glued to an insole is so much larger surface area that the glue doesn't fail? >Because Nicks boots doesn't stitch their insoles anymore, it's akin to simply gluing on gemming. The nails in the heel area and waist may keep it secure, but not stitching the front will be like having a loose-fitting sock in a shoe. The stitchdown may keep it in, but all of that friction is no good

Alright this is exactly what I was gathering based on the videos. They stopped doing it because of "covid material shortages" and they say it's redundant. If you just wear nicks casually then yeah it is. But for an actually heavy dude work boot this seems like an issue. They stopped stitching all the way though, say it's redundant, but I don't see any price cuts because of it. Seems sort of shady to me on the outside.

>>18057298
Meant to quote you. This is what I get for phone posting.

>>18057316
With stitchdown boots of certain styles, the uppers are stitched to the midsole, which also functions as the insole. Less material, lighter, more flexible and cheaper. If an insole is glued to the midsole (as in a thick piece of leather the same thickness as the midsole itself, without any nails or stitching) then it'll simply be a point of failue that can be catastrophic, or intentional. The Austrian 'Goiserer' style of boots does this, in how they have both an insole and midsole, securely stitched, but they still leave extra space for the ability to add insoles, different sock thicknesses, etc.

As for Nick's boots, they are just lowering quality on purpose. Don't buy them. If anything, go to workboot.com and buy a pair of Viberg work boots from there. They're priced around 345-800+ USD, depending on the models. ( Only do this if you need it for work. If for fashion, then buy from another maker, like Frank's or even just from European bespoke makers.)

>>18057335
So does viberg stitch their insoles down or do they leave room for your own insole like you mentioned? Curious as to why you reccomend viberg.

>>18057281
>Hence it still seems like youre still having ONLY glue holding down the insole in the toebox, correct?
what? how did you come to this conclusion?

>>18057355
Because from watching the nicks video I posted earlier they nail the midsole to the insole on the heel. But the front of the boot is only glued. In that video they show stitching all the way through the midsole and insole but they no longer do that as of 2 years ago.

>>18057260
This is how original Stitchdown/Veldtschoen is done. You can still find this on Clarks or South African vellies.
Despite sharing the name “stitchdown”, PNW stitchdown is a hybrid construction that is a bit different. Language is wild. People got lazy with naming.

>>18057348
Viberg is done the same as, no insole stitching.

>>18057271
>>18057281
Basically OP is talking about how the Upper is connected to the Insole.

One
Blake stitch shoes, that is through the Blake stitch
On Gyw shoes, that is through the welt stitch, the point of connection to the insole- the rib, however, is glued to the insole, so it can come unglued.

On Nicks, and also Viberg, Wesco. The back part is by nails, but the front part is just glue, that is correct. More precisely: the lining part of the upper is fixed to the insole by glue. The upper has to be flanged out so it no longer in contact with the insole.
Failure of this lasted lining is harder since there is more contact area. It can come undone, but it’s during resoling, when the midsole is ripped off, often time, the lasted lining comes flying too. The cobbler is supposed to glue it back down.

Anyone crying about Nicks removing the blake stitch should remember Wesco never even had a blake stitch on the first place

>>18056011
You linked all American boots.

Can anyone ID these boots?

>>18055076
been trying to sell the exact same ones for $150 burgerinos for almost a year now and nobody wants them...

>>18057850
You don't like them?

>>18057884
they look too pointy for my taste, i like more rounded tips.

Guess I like chelsea boots now

Why does whites put a synthetic insole in their boots instead of just putting a half sock liner on. Now I have no volume in these boots at all

>nigs continuing to release what look like corrected grain “work leathers” that are aimed at capturing heritagefags
Buy Frank’s don’t waste your money on nigs reddit trash

>>18058359
>premade beige bump welt
split looks so much nicer

>>18058370
The synth is for their gyw line

>>18058359
Eh RM Williams looks better

>>18058445
But these boots I got are 270 stitchdown and rebuildable.

>>18058450

>>18058379
i guess this is horween copying copper rough and tough
not a good look

also they are experimenting and fumbling with the original CXL process as of late
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8Lg8St6kNo
seems people are really getting sick of the CXL lottery and horween feels threatened by seidel, w&c and now sb foot

>>18057113
if it won't break the bank and you're okay with them being unfashionable in a couple years go for it

>>18058476
They’re 1964 monarch is an attempt to get Seidel to copy Predator orange as a work leather, but the whole idea behind the work leathers is that they’re hearty, full grain oil tanned leathers that hold up to torture and are durable. They’re not meant to be pull-up leathers or showcase me epin patina
They also added a 1964 mahogany which they want to fully replace their max support walnut (literally their most popular, best selling leather so you know how retarded they are) because and that doesn’t look like a full grain leather either from the photos I’ve seen

>>18058476
>horween feels threatened by seidel
they should be
double shot fucks

>>18058476
>seems people are really getting sick of the CXL lottery and horween feels threatened by seidel, w&c and now sb foot
(and that's a good thing)

>>18058476
Not a single leather in the business is a direct challenger of CXL. Double Shot is not retard-proof. It only has a similar oily shine.

Dont be silly, Horween can’t even make enough leather to sell as of these past months. Their backorder is long

>>18058476
Why are people media literacy so bad? He literally said that it is not a common product at all. If you think what Ashland leather (ex Horween employee) gets is indicative of what Horween wants to put out in the market, then you are a massive idiot.

Cleanup and Mink Oil Treatment.

Any leather insole reccs?

>>18058621
fresh out of the box?

>>18058623
Nicks Delta arch

>>18058649
No, I had them for a year and a half.

I regret to inform you, it is now 20C sunny outside and I put my boots in the closet today

The joys of living in the Med

>>18058741
It's 20-25c here and I just ordered some moc toe boots I was planning to wear in between winter and summer. Did I make a mistake?

>>18058746
I can probably still wear them but I just know what's coming now that March is almost over

>>18058741
>winter has been pretty mild this year
>springtime is almost here and looks like it's gonna be a hot and lond sprng/summer
>I just spent a small fortune on Trumans

>>18058673
fuck nigs I ordered that shit day one it dropped and still haven’t gotten mine

>>18058741
This year was so warm and snowless I only wore my boots twice.

>wear my Red Wing Beckman in black cherry featherstone
>friends says "cool boots, anon, are those doc martens"?
Why are normies like this?

>>18058920
If I didn't wear a pair at all for the whole season, should I sell it?

>>18058980
Maybe if you're one of those goofies that has 10 pairs of boots for no reason and 80% of them you never ever wear? Me I just have 2.

oxfords arrived
these are my only pair of oxfords

I occasionally need to wear oxfords for work but I sold my last pair because it was uncomfortable and bought these from TLB in H-width and double sole instead

>>18059008
this is their new model with a seamless heel
it's about $30 more expensive than the normal version but I thought it's worth it even though no one will ever know except me

>>18059010
anyway I tried them on and the facings close completely with very little room to spare
that was my biggest worry in an oxford, I hate seeing those huge v-gaps on them

I'll wear them 2-3 times to open up the pores before shining

>>18059010
>this is their new model with a seamless heel
interesting

Need a relatively thin leather sole insert for 610 last. how does this work? do you have to cut them yourself or something?

>>18058741
>20C
>68 F
You guys are just pussies, I wear my boots year around, and it gets much hotter here than in Europe.

>>18059031
Doesnt have to be an exact match, in my experience it's always better to buy slightly bigger insoles anyway

>>18059008
>>18059010
>>18059013
Look pretty nice, anon.

>>18059031
A lot of brands sell insoles that cover several sizes you you can cut them to an exact match.

Need recommendations for chukka boots

>>18059213
budget?

What kind of pants should I go with pic related boots?

dress pants? I usually only wear jeans.

>>18059333
That rendition is fucking ugly, and should only be worn in deserts with Gurkha trousers. Roughout leather, with crepe sole in a natural and light color.

>>18059337
why is the rendition ugly?
because of the colour?

>>18059333
gray chinos would probably complement this the best

why did you get this if you don't know how to style it
and if you wear jeans why didn't you go with a more casual toe shape last
these are so unassuming, while also being extremely non-versitile

>>18059403
>why did you get this if you don't know how to style it

I haven't bought anything yet.

>>18059333
don't buy that colour

chinos would be ideal

>>18059403
>>18059416
>>18059337

Thanks for the feedback, is there a reason why black boots are usually frowned upon? I don't ever go on these generals and my knowledge on boots is bad

>>18059427
I like wearing my chukkas with cords
Cords are cool in colder months, nice texture, doesn't crease a lot, more versatile than flannel wools (too formal) and jeans (too casual).

>>18059427
You can wear black with darker colors and it's fine, I don't think it's frowned upon though my only black shoes are my formal ones
I think black suede or other textured leathers look a little weird though. I've seen black suede loafers and it looks off, like wearing black velvet slippers.

>>18054468
not boots but what does fa think of these

>>18059485
mall tier trash

>>18059485
you're not getting a deal on these
on discount this is how much they really should cost
it made in china italian shoes
it's cheap and low quality, but real leather
the heel counters are going to be stiff cardboard, which will rub your achilles tendon raw, when they are new and completely collapse once worn enough
it's blake stitch construction, which is technically resolable, realistically you will never resole them because it would cost $100+ to do so
so once the leather sole wears down it game over for these
the fact that there are dozens of these barely worn for $50 used or $100 new on ebay means these are permadiscounted and are incredibly shit and uncomfortable because everyone gets rid of them immidiately

>>18054468
I'm a tourist and I wanted some advice on boots, I currently own this pair https://www.redbackboots.com/product/quick-view/41 of boots and I really like the design but when I wear them for too long the back of the boot will dig into my right ankle and cause a wound. I think it's because they're too small for me now. I'm looking for a boot with a similar design with a budget of 200-300 dollars although that's not extremely strict (Australian dollars because I live in hell)

what are some boots and shoes invented in europe or traditional to europe? can one truly have a 100% european shoe collection?
all i can think of right now are Alpargatas and Chelseas

>>18059485
look up berwick and meermin to get something that has some quality to it
https://meermin.com/collections/mens-oxfords

>>18059573
Don't forget Balmoral boots.

>>18059576
>>18059514
>>18059513
appreciate the feedback anons

>>18059524
sorry, there is nothing really for that money
i though red wing blacksmith was in your budget, but those cost 600 emudollars down under

>>18059524
what kind of socks are you wearing

Can shoe shine sponges damage leather? I've been using one for a good while now and haven't noticed any problems but I read online from some old posts on a shoe site from 2009 that the shoe causes leather to dry out but they didn't explain why.

>those instant shine sponges

Can shoe shine sponges damage leather? I've been using one for a good while now and haven't noticed any problems but I read online from some old posts on a shoe site from 2009 that the shoe sponge causes leather to dry out but they didn't explain why. Something about it being silicone based?

>>18059831
I just found out about them apparently being bad for leather, I was under the impression they were like a microfiber type material or something

>>18059840
no its an oil liquid imbued into the sponge that forms a layer as you apply it, probably will dry the leather out with repeated use

men, whats stopping you from looking like this?

tricker's factory shop sale is live, been thinking about his derby on gumlite.

>>18059947
also kinda interested in the grey suede

>>18059573
What about hiker boots? Aren't these European?

>try UK10
>it's the right size overall but my pinky touches
>try UK10.5
>it's a little too big overall but my pinky doesn't touch

I found this Swedish shop that sells full grain leather belts for like 60€
https://www.saddler.com/p/odense-belt-dark-brown
No idea if they're any good but they also have leather wallets and bags.

My only quality belt is from TLB which they sent to me for free with a shoe order, it's crazy good and made from CF Stead suede but they normally charge 105€ for them

>>18059949
fuck it, closest i have to grey is loden suede. This should be comfy on vi-lite.

>>18059844
Why would it dry out the leather?? thats what i dont understand

>>18060097
Leather care products are a mystery, you just need to be careful with them.

I remember a post where somebody applied cordovan cream on normal leather shoes and ruined them straight away, since then I've been careful to just apply what I know works for sure: renovateur, cream polish, wax - all by saphir.
And on suede I spray saphir invulner for water protection. I bought a no-name spray from a local c*bbler and when I went home I read it's only good for synthetic leather, immediately returned it. Normies only buy mall tier trash so c*bblers only sell the stuff that works with mall tier trash, not high quality leather.

Filed down a burr that was eating my laces a few weeks ago. That slowed it down but it was still starting to chew through my newest lace. I just remembered I had a jewelers loupe kicking around, made sure I got the whole thing this time. Dealing with a burr in smaller eyelets is a pain.

It doesn't say but does this boot have a elastic toe?

https://shop.whitesboots.com/lifestyle-boots/millwood/

>>18060122
I meant celastic

>>18060122
probably, doesn't matter on the toe anyway.

>>18060131
What do you mean it doesn't matter

>>18060122
yes it does

>>18059949
>>18060062
i think the grey looks better imo

>>18060134
The point of a toe stiffener (regardless of any material) is to keep the intended shape of the last. Your toes are not supposed to touch the toe box.

>>18060122
it's not that hard to tell from the picture that it's celastic

>>18060255
Well it does matter to me because I kick shit all the time at work

>>18060331
find better work

Viberg suddenly really into preorders involving their Blucher and Navy Boot.

anyone has a recommendation for a pair of dark olive boots?

>>18060356
Once you do construction for a certain amount of time you're stuck. Too antisocial to work in an office and nothing else would make the same money either. Is what it is.

Is there such a thing as pull-on boots that are like Chelseas but without the elastic, or like Cowboy boots but without the gawdy stuff? Do you know what I mean? Just straight up leather pull-on boots, like small Wellingtons or something.

>>18060541
engineers have a strap
ropers do not

Thoughts on Truman?

>>18060331
So the point is that you are looking for a steel toe?
Go read the product description.

>>18060543
I already bought a pair of ropers and I’m really unhappy with them. I was hoping there was something else I hadn’t thought of.

>>18060555
>I already bought a pair of ropers and I’m really unhappy with them
did you now

>>18060412
john lofgren has several boots in dark olive cxl and shinki olive shell cordovan
red wing 8828
grant stone jungle kudu, close enough to olive (debatable)
nicks overlander in w&c olive double stuffed, or custom olive bison

>>18060389
true
also seems like they are moving away from stitchdown on everything besides their service boots
their hikers, scouts and most of their shoes used to be stitchdown, not anymore
a lot of GYW in their SS24 collection
not that i blame them, their high SPI double row stitchdown was virtually unresolable and realistically has to be handstitched to come out completely clean
viberg themselves have given up resoling their own boots years ago, because it's such a pain in the ass restitching through the same holes, even with their own machines, which is really funny

>>18060558
Yeah…

I can see I won’t get any recommendations here. I’ll find less weird people to ask.

>>18060654
post the ropers I wanna see em

https://youtu.be/ZM6z_ne9q_I
when are we going to see boots in this?
throw on some naked&famous pickle rick selvedge and you're wubba lubba dub dub dripped out

>>18060569
thanks a lot anon, these are great

>>18060610
>a lot of GYW in their SS24 collection
Stitchdown is cool but I'm fine with them going GYW. I don't really have a preference between them but I own two pairs of stichdown Vibergs and as you mentioned I fear the day I have to resole either.

>>18060610
i don't even think their insane SPI looks good, they went too far. Especially with double rows.

>>18060541
>Cowboy boots but without the gawdy stuff
Jack boots?

>>18060544
I llike mine a lot

>le epin patinuh

>>18061130
Walk in the bushes you will get something like that.

>>18061131
what are you doing in the bushes, you sick creep?

>>18061147
pick wild garlic

My Truman's just arrived bros! 1 week from USA to UK. Shame I have a broken toe right now so wearing anything with a capped toe is very painful...

>>18061325
what is that? waxed kudu?

>>18061325
What's the point of buying leather that looks like it's 100 years old?

>>18061329
Rambler

>>18061330
I like the rugged look, plus I've heard it breaks in really nicely.

>>18060412
White's MP in Olive Waxed Flesh

>>18061325
very quick

guys I ordered some shoes from TLB during their black friday promotion and they were giving out free belts
so i ordered a belt in the size a thin person would wear
by the time it got here i could barely make the two ends meet
today I wore that belt and put it in the second hole with room to spare

Will Suede look shit if I match it up with denim jeans?

>>18061472
why would it

>>18061472
No? Suede is the best to match with casual clothes.

>>18054468
QUESTION: is there a website that sells chukka boots with 1. smooth leather (not suede), 2. black soles, and 3. two strings (like pic related) in 4. wide/double wide/triple wide width? The only store I've found with such offering is Allen Edmonds (I went to a mall and got measured and tried them on, liked the triple wides), but they're charging $500. Thursday Boots offers the smooth leather, black soles, and two strings, but no option for wides, and I'm hesitant to order them only to find out that they aren't wide enough.

do you really have to spend 100€+ on every single shirt if you want it to look good?

I wear a shirt to work every day, I need like 10 of them

>>18061641
You don't have to buy them all at once. Swap out your worst ones first and build it up

>>18061645
I'm down over 20kg and for now I'm covering my old fatty shirts with a sweater or quarter zip on top
But weather's getting warmer, I gotta start buying shirts soon

imagine bending dainite, the hardest material known to man, to make a fiddle waist

>>18059947
man that green is beautiful

>>18057210
I have them in the tan calf. The other anon reply is right. They were a pain to fit correctly. But, the calf is great. The suede is great, too. I'm planning on copping a pair in the bourbon suede, too.

White’s dropping some limited edition kudu perry selects tomorrow
too bad they’re only available as a 6” boot

>>18061641
what kind of shoes or boots go well with this look?

>>18061617
thursday is trash. you should get the allen edmonds if they meet all your criteria, especially the width. you'll end up spending more money on thursdays because they'll fall apart after a year, if not sooner.

>>18061648
what the fuck, why?
i guess some real creative cobbling freestyle right there
any esthetic effect from the slight fiddle is completely nullified by the off-center and stitched-through dainite logo
also the sole stitch was done at such crazy high tension it cuts into the rubber in multiple places
would have been way easier to do half soles if they wanted to keep the waist and have rubber

How do people go sockless with loafers without heel slip? If I 1/2 size down again, my toes would curl. What gives? Do I just have to wear it with socks? How much do you size down for loafers normally?

Thinking of finally buying a pair of navy boots, what colour goes well with styling them?

>>18062022
I'm partial to charcoal or any shade of grey

>>18059947
>>18059949
just got them, i want to buy the green suede now because they fit me amazingly.

>>18062318
>out of stock in my size
FUCK, the navy is available but i already have navy janus calf bluchers.

>>18061726
Dark brown suede to match the belt - could be a any kind of boot as long as the last is relatively dressy.
You could also wear dark brown loafers or a derby like a longwing or split toe.
You could also do these in normal dark brown leather, smooth or grain.

I wouldn't wear an oxford with it though

>>18061648
Dainite is the shit. When you walk on rocks there's no chance of picking up those fuckers underneath your boots.

>>18062392
They arrived already?

Looks cool but you gotta keep them clean

>>18062656
yea DHL delivers anything from the UK within the next working day for me

A review of Carmina's new $1500 'bespoke' service
They scan your feet with a 3D scanner, I guess it only works if there's a Carmina store close to you.
https://shoegazing.com/2024/03/23/review-carmina-3d-scan-bespoke-derby-in-natural-chromexcel/

He says the fit is good but the construction is standard Carmina factory stuff, good for $500 but not really a $1500 shoe by any means.

It's still like 1/3rd of the price a proper bespoke shoe would cost, and much faster.

>>18062836
>3d printing last
Definitely cut down on production time on bespoke

God i want a pair of this model so bad. Perfect new england wasp-core

>>18062836
it's just a program slithly modifying their pre-existing lasts to your 3d scan, it's not even sophisticated enough to choose the best fitting last to your foot
you just choose a normal carmina custom shoe model, which is a pre-existing pattern on a specific last tied to that pattern and it brute forces the last shape by stretching and pulling it out to fit your foot
this has not much to do with bespoke, you get bespoke not just for the fit, but also for a really tight and form fitting silhouette
the result of this is still a very crude stock shoe look, but for a retardedly high price

he spent $1000 premium for a $450 RTW shoe and had essentially paid for nothing more than the equlvalent of having a patch of leather glued in the spots that pinch on the last
complete gimmick

>>18062950
Forgot pic lol
Pair these fuckers with some vintage ll bean hunting jacket and you are good to go

>>18062955
just get them

>>18062953
>it's just a program slithly modifying their pre-existing lasts to your 3d scan, it's not even sophisticated enough to choose the best fitting last to your foot
>you just choose a normal carmina custom shoe model

what a scam

>>18062836
Would rather just send in a fit sheet to Frank’s who can modify lasts by hand and build whatever tf boot you want for half the price

Anyone with boots in seidel chocolate work leather?

I've been wearing Lem's shoes/boots for a while, and I really love their ultrawide toebox lasts, but I hate how fast they wear out and I really need more cushioning for the amount I walk on concrete. Any suggestions for minimal drop, wide toebox boots?

>minimal drop

>>18062836
it doesn't sound that bad, and i assume they take a bit more care of finishing and QC with these 'bespoke' pairs. But Carmina is still not worth $1500 when i can get STC or AM with that money.

Personally if i had trouble fitting into RTW footwear, i would take a $40 1 hour ryannair flight to bologna and have Enzo Bonafe make me a 'semi-bespoke' last based on my measurings for like $400.

>>18063098
>build whatever tf boot
Nope. PNW adjacent shits are all they make.

Is all this expensive leather good year welt shit good for really long walks.
I live in the city and go on several vacations a year and I always end up going miles when I'm out and about. From what I've read, people tend to prefer running shoes and the like because they're lighter and cushioned but it's hard to find stylish ones.

>>18063251
Forgot pic like an idiot, Lems worked great for getting rid of my bunions but I really need something with more padding now, I walk 5 miles minimum on concrete/asphalt everyday.

>>18063253
I know some drop goes with the territory, but a lot of "heritage" boots have ridiculously tall heels

>>18063379
Just get some bare foot African rangers

>>18063377
Most are not optimal for really long walking. There are some lightweight options with soft, sneaker-like soles (vibram gumlite/vi-lte) and "flex" goodyear welt methods, or just more flexible stitched construction methods in the first place.

>>18063377
I could walk all day in Frank's patriots, unironically.

Anyone know any good quality dress socks to wear with leather shoes?

>>18063377
For me there's no universal perfect shoe. There's always a tradeoff.
As much as I like boots, if I expect to be walking for hours on an urban environment I tendo to pick something with a bit of cushioning and lightweight, like Nike Internationalist, Pegasus 83 or New Balance 574.
For hard smooth surfaces my Red Wings 875 with the wedge sole work pretty well, and my Trumans on the 79 last with their slightly sprung toe help the natural movement of my gait (even though they could do with a tiny bit of arch support).
But after a long day of walking around on hard surfaces somethings gotta hurt. In my experience, what's gonna hurt depends on the shoe I'm wearing, and that's where the tradeoff comes into play.

>>18063377
I've walked 15 miles on concrete wearing camp mocs and no socks. Just don't be a bitch

>>18054542
lil bro wearing two christmas hams lmfaoooo

>>18054468
Can I get an ID for some similar boots to the one Leon (guy on the left) is wearing in this shot? Many thanks.

>>18063905
nicks tactical
whites stormchaser/millwright
franks groundpounder
jk 300x
black timbs

Navy nubuck Indy chukkas arrived.

>>18062836
For $1500 I can get Edward Green or Gaziano & Girling. Both have factory lasts in a variety of widths that are superior to anything Carmina puts out even with their fancy scanning.

Meermin has a new chelsea boot
Goodyear welted
Wholecut
CF Stead Waxy Kudu
"unstructured" with soft leather toe puffs
leather heel stiffeners
$275

BUT it was a "pre-order" and it's already expired. I guess they'll do a normal run for these after.

>>18064268
Waldo.

>>18064268
looks like it must be nice to touch

>>18064268
interesting

Why shouldn't I?

Nice unlined loafer for every day office wear, annonay french calf, goodwear yelted, it's $200

>>18064277
any brand that uses pricing or affordability as its main selling point is a red flag

>>18064277
sounds alright if the fit works for you, usually i hear complaints about meermin killing your feet but it looks like there is no structure in the heel.

Do you guys just live with your pinky toes touching or even being squeezed a little?

If I buy shoes half a size bigger my pinky is free but the shoes are always a little too big everywhere else
According to measurements ("trust the science!") I should be half a size down from there and my pinky should be getting squeezed.

>>18064318
>Do you guys just live with your pinky toes touching or even being squeezed a little?
fuck no

>>18054468
Oof

New Viberg makeup on Rivet & Hide
CF Stead waxy commander on the honky last
https://rivetandhide.com/products/viberg-service-boot-rawhide-waxy-commander-2040.html

I don't dislike it

>>18064340
it's a good leather for the last

>another one falls for the cxl meme

is sock material important when /bootmaxxing/?

>>18064519
yes. wool only

>>18064520
Thanks, any decent companies?

>>18064479
>giant fat streak in the leather right down the middle of the vamp
>shit creasing CXL
>the welt is defective and you can see all of the stitches
that'll be $520

>>18064530
darn tough, they offer it in a variety of weights and also where the paddings go

grant stone's new release in ghost leather aka fake snow spray overdye

>>18064566
complete meme lreather that ages like shit

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>>18064530
Americans swear by darn tough
I'm in Europe so I buy my socks from Mes Chausettes Rouges - very happy with their socks both thick wool and thin dress