/fa/ - Fashion

I like my 1963 a lot.

Is this generally true for americans as well? Should i just fly to japan for a trip and buy a white birch while im their, if it's really like half the price that's a no brainer.

Jannies Big MAD...

>>18020706
>what's wrong with buying a watch that costs more than I make in a month

If your "luxurious" watch is an automatic, but doesn't have a solid precious metal rotor, it's not true luxury.
Prove me wrong.
>protip: you can't

>>18020733
No. Idk why "watches are cheaper in Japan" is getting pushed so hard but they aren't. In fact they are usually more expensive compared to elsewhere. You'd be better off getting one in any of the other Asian countries(besides korea). Yes you have a higher chance of coming across fakes, but if you do your research you can find legit dealers and shops that will hook you up.

I would like to buy a Tudor. I like how simple, primitive even it is. Watch of a blue collared worker. But still houses a great manufacture caliber.

>>18020744
I mean you can't argue that the price he got is half of what it a SBGY013 costs as listed on their site for america. Import taxes and that shit add a lot to some products, so buying them in the country of origin can make things cheaper. I'm not asking about buying a rolex in japan i'm asking about a grand seiko, a watch made in that country. I don't have any experience trying to haggle with dealers (i'm not much of a haggler in general) but i dont see any good or authorized dealer getting you a GS for that much less.

>>18020737
Yes, unironically, what is wrong with it?

>>18020737
The striver poorfags are really ruining the watch market

Nice relaxing day here, comfy vintage quartz time.

Someone recommend me a $3,250 watch so I dont break the 30% monthly limit and become a poser.

>>18020769
are you black?

>>18020783
>>18020737
Not him but I make close to $7500 a month after taxes and everything, but i could very much afford a $10k watch because i also have multiple months of emergency savings and reasonable amount of investments for my age. I also fully own a house so my living expenses are low. Monthly take home isnt the only factor. Having said that theres a reason i havent spent that much on a watch still, i find it a bit too painful so far.

>>18020755
Do it.

>>18020783
Not an argument.

>>18020779
>30% salary limit
>poser
>being a normie with a shitty watch makes you the opposite of a poser
LOL
don't let those crypto tards fuck with your wagie life, anon. just buy the watch you like. buying a watch for any amount is stupid but getting a 8k watch you like should be average enough and show your interest in watches to a sufficient degree. just save, man. are you that capitalism fucked that you can't save money? do you think that guy's grandpa bought his watch as is with his monthly salary and not because of a bonus? do you think the guy making 200k just buys a watch without a bonus with his monthly salary? that would be soulless as fuck. you need an occasion to buy something for the significance. without significance there is no meaning and without meaning there is no reason to - do anything.
do what you like. when I was student I bought shoes for 700 and I earned like 800 a month+pocket money, about the same amount, which I had to spend on amenities and which left me with like 300 a month for everything else. I suffered but I still wear those shoes and they're probably one of my favorite pairs still. one of the best and the result of a rather significant choice I made back then.

like my dad earned 500k before I was a poor af student (I have a fond now tho) and he still managed to spend everything without even buying watches. you can always spend money, that's something you learn when you grow up with money. the only thing that matters is how you spend it.

>>18020793
Not on a bracelet though. Bracelet is gay.

>>18020794
>Not an argument.
it's not an argument, it's a question. hence why it has the question mark (?) at the end of the sentence.

>>18020755
What blue collar worker makes $10k a month?

>>18020798
How many times will you ask a question instead of answering the original question?

>>18020800
1 time

Black KANG speaking the language of the truth, right, Rolex bros?

>>18020802
>ayo cuh wut wrong wit spendin dat ppp loan on bling bruh we out here hustlin an grindin issa bidness expenx ongod

For all the shitposting about it there still hasn't been an answer to the question of why someone making $80-100k, far above the average annual income in the USA, shouldn't buy a Rolex.

>>18020795
I am joking you autistic fuck
Do you actually think I care what brain dead /wt/ denizens I will never meet think about a watch I do or do not own

>>18020796
Always buy with the bracelet. Put it on an aftermarket strap later.

if you're insecure about buying a rolex because you're poor you will be insecure when you wear a rolex

>>18020804
this is how your average LOLEX owner in 2024 speaks

>>18020811
>why shouldn't you
if you don't want to. if you want to, maybe you should. why do you need a more complex answer than that?

>>18020816
>dat oxter petual i be wearing with da count chocula yeezies yall aint got nuthin on me

>>18020817
So why even bring up the 30% monthly salary rule if it doesn't matter?

>>18020779
https://www.chrono24.com/grandseiko/heritage-collection--id33032699.htm

I'm poor but I still want a somewhat respectable watch. Recommend me something

>smaller than 39mm
>sapphire
>automatic
>$200 or less

I found this NATO-strap I don't even remember I had. Not sure if it's too clownmode or not.

Also gotta test the autowinding on a customer's watch, ironically this is a more reliable method than being "scientific" and using a watch winder.

>>18020739
No argument there.

>>18020843
Yikes, you DO make more than $700 a mont, don't you??

>>18020851
>>18020739
I wonder if the goldsmith at the jewelry store I worked at would make me a gold rotor weight for my Amphibia.

>>18020851
You guys better make MINIMUM $100k a month to be having opinions like that.

>>18020854
Even if he would that would put you way above your 30% a month limit based on your vostok retail price.

>>18020858
>30% a month limit
LOLEX OWNERS GOT BRAIN DAMAGE

Daily reminder:

>>18020811
The answer is because it's not a financially wise way to spend your money unless you already have a large amount of savings and investments. If youre in your 20s or early 30s and you dont have a good amount of money in things like 6 months+ emergency savings, 401k, roth ira, stocks, bitcoin, etc you shouldnt be spending so much money on any luxury goods. The reason the black thing was brough up is because this is exactly what niggers do. They buy gold chains, diamond shit, wear gucci, expensive shoes but they dont actually have any money. Their attempts to look rich reveal how poor they actually are.

>>18020843
Look at orient, you didnt specify style but they have dive watches and stuff like bambino that are around that price.

Panerai Chads, where you at?

Thoughts on Casio moving away from Multiband 6 and using Bluetooth?
I've seen people on other sites say Casio will slowly phase out Multiband 6 from most, if not all of their modules over the next decade or so because outside of NA, EU, and East Asia, you can't receive timekeeping signals. The South East Asia and South Asian markets are massive and the people who can afford even a cheaper G-Shock have phones.

Citizen Eco-Drive on the wrist today. What are you wearing, frens?

>>18020811
Taste and not liking rolex models. If i had that kind of money i would buy Zenith

>>18020878
I forgot to mention it should be a GADA watch

>>18020925
>he wears only one watch
See above singlet >>18020850

>>18020940
Got me there, I'm not Chad enough to dual-wield.

>>18020876
>unless you have savings and investments
So then you acknowledge that salary is a stupid metric for this, especially if you're going to hold it to such a high standard as 30% per month?

>>18020931
Which Zenith?

>>18020860
What does rolex have to do with it?

>>18020925
Do you have feiends? Where do you go, what do you do every week?

anyone else going to the district time watch show?

>>18020961
I bet the biden crime family will be there.

Well yeah I DID combine an Akatsuki Robe with a Grand Seiko, how could you tell?

Don't you have a friend to dox on the internet somewhere?

>>18020967
Based weeblord

No, he's quite unbased actually. In fact he's probably the least based poster in this general.

>>18020973
No, that's, you,.

>>18020973
That's a wild claim considering we have dadwatch and a literal tranny fuccboi.

>>18020980
>newfag not recognizing bittercel

>>18020811
The answer is twofold. For one, as the other anon mentioned, conventional financial advice dictates that savings should come first in priority in terms of where you should be putting your money. So 401k, roth ira, bitcoin, index funds, stock, whatever.

The second is that most people do not value watches to the level of where a lot of enthusiasts do. Most people you talk to would prefer to use that money on a down payment for a house, buy a nicer car, save up for vacation, spend it on eating out, whatever.

The first point you can't really argue against since that just makes sense. It's not financially responsible to spend money on a watch when you don't have the money to live first and you're mortgaging your future by spending money on it.

However, the second point, and why I personally think it's totally fine for somebody to be making $80-100k a year and buy a Rolex (albeit probably one on the cheaper end so OP, airking, explorer, a smaller datejust, etc) is that people prioritize things differently. If you don't want to buy a house right now because you don't think you're going to be living in the city you occupy for the next twenty years, you're totally justified in buying a rolex. If you don't care about the car you drive (because let's be real cars are just as bad if not worse in terms of a financial black hole as watches are, plus nobody ever drunk drove a rolex and killed a family of four) and you're fine driving a cheaper car to buy the rolex, buy the rolex. If you're fine not going out all the time, drinking, eating at expensive restaurants every weekend, etc, buy the rolex.

>>18020951
Correct, but it gives some info. It's like people that say rating any media out of 10 is stupid. Sure it doesnt encompass everything but its at least some info people can use to see if something is good or if they may like it.

>>18020934
I like my orient kanno, thats the largest size dive watch but they have ones in the size you asked. Black dial and bezzle would probably fit your use case

>>18020403
More fool you. The increased size of the WHOOP is more than offset by undoing the allusion to a looting Soviet soldier that wearing two timepieces at once gives rise to. Oh you addlepated simpleton, how I pity you.

>>18020802
It's true enough that people rarely spend large amounts - or forego the large amounts available upon the sale of - an item that they hate.

>>18020983
I don't care what you call him, he's right.

>>18020802
Sure but that one is fake, that bezel is terrible

>>18021027
The bezel os what tips you off? Not that it's a 45mm datejust with big glass diamonds in the dial?

>>18020996
All that talk and it still makes no sense to me that people will defend 2 months salary on an engagement ring but shriek at the idea of spending even a month's salary on a watch. At least a watch has a practical use.

>>18020961
I'll be there, anon.

>>18020757
I got mine from timepeaks

>>18020854
>make me a gold rotor weight for my Amphibia.
>for my Amphibia
WHY?

>>18021068
let’s meet up at Hill Country afterwards, it’s right across the street

https://www.hillcountry.com

>>18021073
is this reputable, and are these just all used watches because that would explain why youre saving a few thousand. I feel like I want the first high end watch i buy to be new. I assumed the guy in the screenshot i had posted had a new watch, or at least it looked new.

>>18021085
Mine was used
It's debatable if buying a new from Sakura or some such is worth it. No warranty and import taxes will have to be factored in. It probably would be cheaper, but is it worth it for a high $ watch? Up to the buyer. My used watch was significantly cheaper than what I could get one for here.

>>18020953
This one,is the perfect chronograph in my opinion,not even the meme moonwatch comes close, but for sure this watch is not for everyones taste.

ahh, finally working on that old late 40's Avia, with an as 1002, pretty simple movement, pretty fucking filthy

radium is all removed, can someone suggest a good source of lume that isn't 60usd?

>$4650 watch
>made of silver
unironically, what the fuck were they thinking? and who would buy such a thing?

>>18021130
Same reason people buy bronze watches.

>>18021130
5 minutes with a qtip and some silver dip would bring it back. I remember that fat Mexican on jewtube purposely fucking these watches up for clicks

>>18021130
Someone who makes $15000 a month.

>>18021130
I like it desu

>>18021092
The sharp angular lugs look really weird in person and they try to sell them with a strap option as well as a bracelet but the straps don't look right with the lugs at all.

New wortch

>>18021152
Nice. I like it

>>18021089
If i buy one it would probably be from an AD, and it's less about the warranty to be honest and more about the fact that this is MY watch, not someone elses that i now own. All blemishes and such would be from my use and i dont have any plans to sell watches i buy unless i somehow ended up destitute, in which case id probably take other more extreme actions.

>>18021113
Holy based

is there any reason why i shouldn't buy a GS 3180?

i was thinking of a lord marvel or a crown special, but for an overhauled one you're already at $1000, might as well double that and get a nicely patina'd 3180.

what do you think?

>>18021197
Gorando sehko

>>18021197
Wabi sabi patina kinda goes against the point of a GS. imo. Unless it's an icon like a 44 or 62 or like you said KS. But u do u and just b urself

>>18021201
why is patina bad for a GS, but acceptable on the non-GS high end models of the era? i think it looks good on whatever, especially since you can tell it's an original dial and not some repainted one like people do

i like the first gen lord marvels too, but they're pretty up there for one that's been overhauled, same with the first gen KS.

>>18021207
I'm not a crusty watch kind of guy so you're not going to like my opinion much anyway. That's a very attractive watch you posted tho, I do like vintage, but there's a level of wear that I could tolerate. That's just me tho

hi

>>18021130
looks like someone wore it while they died in a fire

I think I'm gonna buy it, one and done

>>18021221
I used to post that pic all the time in response to the resident Tudor hater

>>18021223
I'm ok with expensive quartzs but I despise expensive inaccurate turds

Can someone post Mort collection pic?

>>18021223
very sexy, but i prefer to buy a cheap square gshock and then put an aliexpress metal case on it

>>18020720
It's cheap but I like it a lot

>>18021249
Hey! At least you didn't overpaid for the same crap, but with the retarded word "grand" in it.

everywhere i look ppl say casio a700 is sub $30, but everywhere i check it's over $30. where the fuck do i get it for under $30?

>>18021249
Is there a model like this that doesnt have the gold? Maybe just black or silver instead?

why is it called a "sports" watch if you can't play sports in it

If your watch is over 40mm you're a nigger

If your watch is thicker than 10m you're also cringe

You can't fit these kinds of watches under a classy suit. Every watchmaker seems intent in making their watches chunky dinner plates to attract to ghetto rich posers.

>>18021275
this is the last time I spoonfeed you faggots

at least try to research this shit before posting

>>18021277
>yeah i wear classy suits

t. redditor

>>18021282
I don't always wear them but when I do you really notice how obnoxious modern watches are

It looks really dumb that your sleeve is all hiked up just to accommodate your watch

watch id?

>>18021279
That's not even close retard. I want something exactly like >>18021249 except the hands, marker, and date trim are not gold, instead being black or similar. What you posted is way worse.

>>18021310
>it's the same model line

top retard

>>18021302
Maybe?

>>18021197
Get the one with an engraved dial.

>>18021302
Funny seeing this here. I DM’d dick to find out.

>>18021249
i love my cheap shitter too

>>18020723
It's a fine watch. Is it running well?

>>18020733
I've never tried to buy them there, but buying them from overseas is definitely cheaper than local usually, even with import taxes. Also, with the Japanese you can be assured of authenticity, unlike with China or any other nation.

>>18020739
Disagree. 'Luxury' is simply something that is not necessary. All of my watches are a luxury. Your definition is incorrect.

>>18020755
Tudors don't have 'great manufacture calibers'. They just use ETA and Breitling. Buy the watch if you love it, but be sure to try it on before and whatever you do, don't buy it as a Rolex cope...you'll never scratch the itch.

>>18020757
FWIW, I have a local Grand Seiko AD, and their prices are comparable to Japan for new models. So buying GS as an import is only useful for Japan-only models as well as vintage. But that's just me.

>>18020879
An oldy, but goldy.
>pic related

>>18020925
Holy Grail, and everything else, as always. Switched out the 321 to the leather strap for a while, and the 1861 back to the stock bracelet. You know, once the old 1861 bracelet is sized correctly, it fits like a gem.

>>18020947
Dual-wielding is great, I do it daily.

>>18021092
I think it's great, though I do really love the Darth as well. The date window is shit for me, as I wear them on my right wrist. Still, an iconic design with iconic movement (and at least the subdials aren't cut off).

>>18021152
Like the stormchaser who waits near the 'car worsh'. Those were comfy hurricane eves...

>>18021249
If you love it, you win. I still love my 2599.80, even though it's cheap.

Hope all of you are in good health and spirits. The port is flowing, and it's time to relax!

>>18020843
>sapphire
>automatic
>$200 or less
drop the sapphire. Otherwise i think its impossible

>>18021380
Nice watch mate. We have to stick together.

>>18021383
Gorgeous! Lately I've been tempted to get the Bronzo, but honestly...I think my days of huge watches are over. Just don't get the opportunity to wear them much.

Still love the 111...it has such beautiful proportions. Gotta get it serviced though... Nice to see another Paneristi here. I mainly wear Omegas now...what else have you got?

>>18021371
this place has ruined me. I see watches I don't recognize and have an immediate need to know.

>>18021386
Just an explorer 39, looking at a carbotech tho.
My Panerai’s getting serviced atm because the bezel went slack again seems to break every five years like clockwork lmao.

>>18021392
>'Just' an explorer 39

The Explorer is a great watch man; so many great watchmakers love it for the style combined with unstoppable reliability. Sorry to hear about your Pam, but at least it'll be ready for water use when you get it back.

Out of curiosity: what is your feeling on the Explorer? I've been going back and forth on it for years, but since the Covid Rolex blowup, I was turned off by everything related. How do you feel about the watch? Would you have any negatives on it?

>my Mark40 to join the thread of Mark 40s...

>>18021394
I love my explorer, it’s timeless and no matter what I wear it fits the part.
It’s so nice how it flies under the radar, and at risk of sounding cringe it’s very much an IYKYK kind of watch.

>>18021277
If it starts with a 3 you sit to pee

>>18021404
if it starts with 4 you shart in mart

>>18021402
hmm....thanks for the insight, I appreciate it. Well, time to rest now. Have a great eve, PaneraiAnon, and thank you.

>>18021380
>>18021386
Based gigachad Paneristi OmegaDrunk

>>18020720
Redpill me on chinese watches

>>18020679
>I'm asking you to explain the reasoning and who is saying this.
I'm saying the reasoning is stupid, and that nobody is saying this.

This guy: >>18020564
claimed it was "consensus". But it very obviously isn't.

>>18021404
If it starts with a 4 your dicksize needs more

>>18021407
if it starts with 4 your ass feels sore

if it starts with 5 you like to muff dive

>>18021404
>>18021407
>>18021427
>>18021430
>>18021431
we need more, anons, i know you have it in you

>>18020802
growing up i always associated rolex with hip hop culture

>>18020757
>I mean you can't argue that the price he got is half of what it a SBGY013 costs as listed on their site for america.
Chrono24 has them as low as $6000 (shipped from Japan) so he at most got it $500 off, excluding taxes. Japan doesn't have a culture of haggling either.

Kofe time.

>>18020779
0-249K net worth proletariat: happy meal watch
250K-499K net worth blue collared working class : base model Casio
500K+ net worth white collared working class: base model Seiko and Citizen
1M+ net worth middle class: base model Omega
5M+ net worth aspirational middle class: base model Rolex
10M+ net worth upper middle class: base model Patek
50M+ net worth upper class: unique and heirloom pieces, antique marine chronometers, high complication pocket watches, luxury clocks

>>18021459
Based

>>18021249
>>18021377
cool, I also like wearing this versatile, low cost thing.

>>18021488
Based on what?

>>18021475
Now we're going by net worth?

>>18021459

>>18020779
It's always amusing to see people claim they make 10K+ per month but think for 5 years to buy a 4 digit watch. Or the other guys who wait every year for black friday sales to get 15$ off

>>18021313
hell yeah

>>18021537
Baste

Taking a grand shit while wearing a grand seiko.

>>18021541
CHONK
H
O
N
K

>>18021547
Holy based

>>18021412
Look up VCMs and realize China has a rich albeit young utilitarian horological history and you can still find pockets of it today, like Seagull, along with a lot of garbage.

>>18021561
Everything they have is from making outsourced swiss parts.

>>18021416
it was until the poorfags arrived
still is among the og's

>>18021152
nice, where'd you snag it? i was thinking about getting one of the new 5s they just put out

Going to Tokyo in 2 days. What are some compulsory /wt/ places to check out?

>>18021619
That bar where whoretadello doxxed an innocent Japanese man

>>18021459
How week is your coffee? In every picture it looks like it's half cream.

>>18021623
bittertadello lmfao

>>18021625
I like my coffee just how I like my women.

>>18021641
Smelling of dairy.

>>18021641
Venezuelan and aged 8 years in a wooden barrel

>>18020755
Nevermind the watch I want those gloves.

>>18021627

>>18021665
Don’t push your luck. Bittercel spams the report button.

>>18021678
>>18021665
>>18021664
>>18021643
>bittercel samefagging

>>18020720
I'm into femboys and traps. What would be the best watch/brand for me?

>>18021680
To attract one: Panerai
To become one: Casio

>>18021686
What makes Panerai so attractive to the trannies?

>>18021687
It's a big, bulky, manly man's watch. Invicta is good too, but they're too much on the trashy side of the spectrum.

>>18021690
I genuinely wish they'd make a 36mm watch. The smallest watch I see in their lineup is 38mm but it's clearly supposed to be a woman's watch, which is wild to me because 38mm is really pushing it for a woman. I guess they have some beefy women in Italy?

>>18021686
Shit, I have to make $22k a month to pull a ladyboy? :(

>>18021625
Every week.

>But, but it was on ze (Moon) TM

should i

I miss him bros..

I assembled pic rel a while ago. At first I didn't like it, now it has grown on me quite a bit.

Why are green faces the best?

>>18021755
I tried both colorways before, the model wasn't that appealing for me. But if you really want the Orient retro aesthetic, then I guess go for it.

Citizen Eco-Drive Stiletto.

are there any cheap (<$2k) automatic watches that are worth it or should i just accept that i'm poor

>>18021807
embrace your poorness

>>18021807
Only if you make over $6k a month.

>>18021807
Sinn 556

>>18021812
>embrace your poorness
Already doing that.

>>18021807
i really like the orient stuff. Its cheap yes, but its confident and unashamed in its price tier.

>>18021076
He probably likes his Amphibia.

>>18020854
everything is possible if you are willing to pay
but you would probably need to make it much thinner/smaller to have the same weight as the steel one.
If you make it 1:1, Im not sure if a heavier rotor would damage the internals.

>>18021871
reminds me of nfs rivals 2013

>>18021076
why not? its a really good watch. and its kino AF. I think price-to-performance wise very little can beat a vostok.

Looks like someone is really thirsty for (You)s.

>>18021855
It better be if you have to make $15000 a year to be allowed to buy it.

>>18021877
It's literally perfect bros..

>>18021890
I am...

>>18021877

>>18021909
now we're talking, you definitely listened when I said we need more daring photos

>>18021909
>wearing watch on right hand
nani kore
cute though, 10/10 would tap

>>18021909
Source??

>>18021909
Do you have a blonde wig? Maybe some cute strappy heels?

>>18021907
I know, bro

>>18021439
>Japan doesn't have a culture of haggling either.
In the states I never know which things have a haggling option. In my mind something like new watches or jewelry you cant really haggle on. Same with clothing. I'm not going into REI and am able to haggle for a new snowboard. I guess i didnt realize the listed $9100 was way more than you should be paying for that

>>18021931
In the US we generally only bargain over very large purchases like houses and vehicles, labor such as home improvement projects, or sometimes with sellers at flea markets.

>>18021934
Yeah, i guess a ~$10k watch starts to fall under that category but it feels different.

>>18021934
Yeah, other than that it's mostly just private sellers you'd haggle with. Sometimes you can argue a price down a little bit on luxury items like jewelry, but it'll usually be used items and it'll usually be very expensive or rare pieces.

>>18021934
typical nigga behavior, not even surprised...

>>18021955
Uh.... What?

>>18021955
what the hell are you talking about? Cars haggling is a bit less of a thing these days because of online searching the sticker price is usually already pretty competitive but houses go up or down from whatever the asking price is almost every time.

>>18021909
Breedable

>>18021962
I don't think trannies can breed.

>>18021971
I'd still try

>>18021971
>I don't think trannies can breed.
just kys fucking chuddie with your toxic masculinity

Gentlemen.

>>18021979
Where's the lie though?

>>18021984
>OBSESSED

>>18021981
U see the new polo?

>>18021981
I like wood.

>>18021988
Noice.

>>18021909
KINO and better than anything whoretadello has currently posted

>>18021988
I dont really like gold watches much but this one is pretty nice.

>>18021958
Based

>>18022003
man i wish i were bald and wearing a gold casio and slugging a celsie like that

maybe someday

Can someone provide 36mm watch memes

>>18022080
woooooooahhhhh hoo hoo new camera+subject angle for the same watch you post endlessly in these threads just dropped letsss gooo

>>18021767
What the heck

Finally got myself a "nice" watch (by my standards at least). Feels good man.

>>18022083

>>18022093
>Solar
Absolutely based

>>18022095
tyvm
No decadent lunar energy for me.

>>18022080
Based

>>18022092
>What the heck

>>18022111
You need to put this image through an AI image editor and make it look like an oil painting.

Thoughts on the IWC Mark XX? I'm thinking of either that or saving up for a Grand Seiko. Any other suggestions around that is great too. I've also looked into the Longines spirit as well

>>18022127
Those watches are in totally different categories in terms of styles. What specs are you looking for exactly?

And in the $5,000 - $6,000 range I would recommend you stay away from IWC. imho IWC doesn't start to get truly respectable until you get to the $10,000 range or above and even then there are better options.

>>18022113
How much did you spend on that spring drive?

>>18022136
Definitely looking towards something with good legibility, I currently use a Hamilton Khaki Field as my daily for work since I work in the medical field dealing with patients and paperwork all day.

I'm fine with either auto or hand wound, never owned a diver and I would prefer something thin. Doesn't have to be around 5-6k, could be lower.

Thanks for the info on IWC.

>>18021981
>Piece unique
I fucking hate everything right now.

w2c

pure sex

>>18022179
how is this a watch? Where is the time?

>>18022183
seems like the actual release will be a couple of venturas

>>18022179
>>18022188
I saw and it and liked it, but unfortunately this is destined to become the ultimate reddit watch

>>18022188
I still dont see how this is telling the time. The blue hand is locked in place, unless you pus something on the side any then there is some illuminated time shown. It does look neat.

>>18022146
For something that looks professional Grand Seiko, Tudor and Omega are good choices in the $5k range.

Go to Chrono24 and take a look at some options. This is a shortened link to Chrono24, filtered by said brands: https://anon.to/2AsALh

Personally I think the Aqua Terra and Seamaster lines are very legible and fit into most professional environments. Also, the Co-Axial calibers are a better proposition than the 9S movements you might find in many Grans Seikos. Frankly I think GS has been seriously slacking in their R&D and their auto and hand wound movements are getting very long in the tooth. I'd even say Omega has surpassed Rolex in the sub-$8k range when it comes to value proposition.

>>18022198
wrong image

>>18022198
Omega doesn't design movements, they buy them. The last one was decades ago when G.Daniels sold them one. Grand Seiko just designed an entirely new escapement system. No small feat, something Omega would never be able to accomplish.
>>18022203
Does it have micro adjust?

>>18022142
Spruuuung droooooivvv

>>18022198
Bro what? Your dual impulse escapement?

>>18022207
>Grand Seiko just designed an entirely new escapement system. No small feat, something Omega would never be able to accomplish.


Stop shilling your japanese overpriced crap.

>>18022213
are you implying its bad or you just wanted to make a retarded post?

>>18022227
>overpriced crap.
Ive been looking at these brands a lot lately and i dont really see how theyre overpriced compared to omega or tudor.

>>18022207
>Omega doesn't design movements, they buy them
What does it matter? also, they have improved upon the design he introduced. And Omega continues to perfect it, the Spirate System is very clever for example.

In any case, idk how you can possibly defend something like the 9S if that's what you're trying to do. The accuracy of that movement is not acceptable in that price range. Their bracelets are not acceptable either.

>>18022113
A little while ago I was thinking of getting a watch like that Nomos, but I forgot what the brand was. I checked Nomos' site and they start at ~€1200. The watches I was looking at were around €400. Any idea what they might have been, or were they perhaps extinct entry-level Nomos watches?

>>18022093
Does anyone know what this type of strap is actually called btw? The chinks just called it "cloth leather strap" but that doesn't feel right. The inside is leather and the outside is kind of like tweed.

>>18022236
Maybe you were looking at Junghans?

>>18022234
>idk how you can possibly defend something like the 9S if that's what you're trying to do. The accuracy of that movement is not acceptable in that price range
I will agree with this for sure. For ~$5k you should be getting better accuracy than this, but doesnt apply to all of their products. Ive seen people talk about their bracelets being unacceptable a lot here, but what exactly about them is so bad?

>>18022234
>Spirate System
>works by effectively changing the stiffness of the hairspring
That's actually pretty cool.

>>18022234
They're not chewing themselves to pieces like the first gen coaxial. GS is all about technology, all their watches are hand made and hand finished, even down to the metal hairspring that is hand adjusted. You're not getting a hand adjusted hairspring from someone like Patek unless you pay $$$. It just seems a little biased to say they're not innovative enough.

>>18021042
Just spend whatever amount you want on whatever you want, life is far too short to worry about meta analysis of the jewellery buying habits of lonely men

>>18022247
The bracelets have no micro adjust. And then he posts a watch without micro adjust and a clone Rolex design as an example of what should be.

>>18020996
>is that people prioritize things differently
I completely agree with this. After you have the first point covered and you are properly preparing for the future how you you want to spend your money is your business. I don't care for travelling so i'd rather buy shit that i get enjoyment out of and just stay in my local area.

>>18022270
>The bracelets have no micro adjust
Is that really the only thing real problem with them? I mean it is a little bit silly but honestly ive never used the micro adjustments on the bracelets i have which contain them, i just remove links. I can see not having the micro adjustments as being a positive too as it's a bit cleaner than having a bunch of unused holes at the clasp.

>>18022234
>we don't need COSC our certificate is more accurate
>+/-10 seconds a day is acceptable
>stamped mass produced bracelet
Okay I mean that's justifiable for a sub 1k-
>price range 6k-8k
So basically OP/DJ prices, Seiko hit their head. Not hand finishing the bracelet is the reason why GS looks so ass in real life. You can't hand finish the watch but say fuck it for the bracelet. This might work if the watch is 1-2k, but not fucking as much as a Rolex. Especially when Rolex has way better accuracy and finishing.

I'm watching event horizon, what watch does Laurence fishburne wear?

>>18021807
Longines Heritage Classic is good, also the Spirit. I think they are more than 2k but are less used. Pic related lands somewhere in this are used also

If I were you I’d wait until you have 3.5-4k to spend. Then you’re in Speedmaster/entry GS territory

>>18022281
Sneedmaster...

>>18022285
That's the watch floating in zero g right? But is that the one on his wrist through out the movie?

>>18022279
It's not stamped garbage like your hyperbolic screed would suggest

>>18022281
Good movie choice.

>>18022285

>>18022290
I like the look of GS but that's not a great argument. Is it really better to have something that's hand made but less accurate?

>>18022281
I really need to get around to this. Finally got around to starship troopers because of all the twitter drama with that helldivers game

My fiance and I went to a Tudor dealer to try on watches and then went to happy hour for oysters and cocktails. I think I'm drunk enough to want a Tudor. Is bb54 a good watch or is my judgement clouded by old fashioneds and negroni?

>>18022296
If you want super accurate, you would get a spring or quartz.

>>18022127
There's a guy on youtube that says the iwc mark xx is unironically a better watch than the rolex explorer.

Left or Right for a OWC.

Left pros:
>GMT is nice when I'm traveling
>dial and color combination makes the watch more unique in the sea of Rolexes
cons:
>date function means I need to waste more time setting it

Right pros:
>no date function means less time having to set the watch
>ceramic bezel gives it a more premium feeling even though I never once used the bezel besides aligning it back to the original position after accidentally knocking it out
cons:
>ceramic bezel means more things to break or shatter

Well /wt/?

>>18022299
Unless you're asian with asian wrist the BB54 is always too small for your wrist. The BB58/P39 is perfect for most wrist and BB is excellent for people with bigger wrists.

>>18022300
I dont necessarily agree with that. You can appreciate the mechanical accuracy of something without it being fully hand made. If you want super accurate you should just use your phone or a smart watch and have it being constantly synced to the true atomic time.

>>18022304
Polar explorer is super not unique, it's the most popular e2. I'd prefer the black e2. And the all black gmt2 instead of the sub.

>>18022276
On the fly microadjust seems like bullshit until you have it and then you neber want to go without it. Without it you'll habe bracelets that fit perfectly MOST of the time but once in a while because it's a little cold or you didn't drink as much water as you usually do or for any number of reasons your bracelet watch will slide around on your wrist and not stay put. Quick microadjust can help with that a lot.

>>18022308
I'm just saying any retard can plop a silicon hairspring in and get good results.
>>18022311
Fidget spinner

>>18022246
I found it. It was Sternglas.

>>18022309
I mean it's still more unique than the E1 and Sub that's what I am saying. And I prefer the white dial since there are few Rolex with polar white dials out there.

>>18022311
I didnt realize there are quick microadjust, the ones i have and have seen you still need to move pins. My breitling has the best bracelet where it just has a spring in the clasp which allows it to extend if needed so when sizing it you can have it be on the tighter side without it being uncomfortable when flexing or whatever. I'm surprised this isnt more common, or maybe it is and im just ignorant. I've never minded how my other watches move on my wrist though.

>>18022317
I'd get a polar e2 before a basic bitch sub I suppose. I have zero use for a gmt tho. It does look cool

>>18022304
What in the fuck is owc?

>>18022326
I travel sometimes, it's nice to know what time home is but its not crucial.

>>18022319
It's getting more and more common tona point where even watches in the ~$500 price point are going to be expected to have it. It's honestly pretty wild that Tudor has better clasps than Rolex now almost exclusively because of this feature.

>>18022335
Sinn finally started doing it too

>>18022328
One Wiener Collection. He wants to find a man he can be with forever. He’s extremely gay, as reflected by his taste in watches.

>>18022335
What are some luxury watches which do have these clasps? I've seen some Rolex bracelets that have one step of on the fly adjustment but not these systems which have a range of quick adjusting.

WHERE WE’RE GOING OUR WATCHES DON’T NEED MICRO ADJUSTMENTS

AND YESSSSS, +/-10 SPD IS PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH

Lads, is there a Citizen Eco Drive or Seiko Solar (with a capacitor) that has a clean sweep? Or should I just give up and get a Bulova, replace the battery around 15 months, or more if I pull out the crown when not in use.

>>18022413
>is there a Citizen Eco Drive or Seiko Solar (with a capacitor) that has a clean sweep
no

>>18022299
I am so buying a 1926

Browsing the rolex forums makes me not want to get one anymore. I hate boomers so much it's unreal

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>>18022319
>I've never minded how my other watches move on my wrist though.


Most people donnot care about it and even want it because they don't want a tight brqcelet that would cause poor blood flow and even skin wounds.

>>18021760
I am here, dear Fren. How are you? What are you wearing today? I hope you are well.

>>18021988
It looks like the Omega Constellation without the Fangs. Still a great design...but...eh. Piaget never 'grabs' me.

>>18022093
Congrats Anon!! I hope it gives you good service for years to come! I especially love the cutouts for the hour markers...gives the dial more complexity.

>>18022299
You're drunk. Tudors are terrible if you have the funds to buy Rolex or Omega.

>>18022304
I'd say GMT; for a 1-watch-collection, it simply does more. It'll be water resistant enough to swim with, and reliable for the movement. GMT gives you extra function compared with Sub. The only thing you lose is the 'iconic' design of the sub. There are lots of YouTubers who swear by the Explorer as a OWC.

>bear in mind, I don't find it attractive. But that's not the question, of course.

>>18022369
It's not. On any reputable modern or vintage watch, a trusty watchmaker can adjust it into great tolerances, assuming he knows how you wear it and the parts are not worn too badly. My vintage 321 is running +1 per day, assuming I leave it dial-up overnight and wind it around the same time every day. 10 seconds per day is not acceptable at all; if it is, you're not doing this right.

>>18022478
Don't worry Anon; it's just a watch. If you love the design, who cares who else wears it. Just because I wear a Speedmaster doesn't mean that I'm an astronaut...or one of the millions of astronaut wannabees. Rolii are great watches, for their price at retail. They're awful if you pay over, and the hype isn't worth the squeeze. If you love the watch, just get it and move on.

Hope you're all having a beautiful evening. I'm drunk, and having a blast. Wear what you love, buy what you love, and to hell with the rest. Also:

>there is no justification for a luxury, so don't bother to try. Just say, 'I love it', and be done. You'll be happier, and others will seethe more.

Holy shit, creating new threads became IMPOSSIBLE without a pass. Why no one is rioting?

>>18022588
Too early to bake a new bread anyway....but I'll have a look too and see.

>>18022584
Good morning OmegaChad.
What are we drinking today?

>>18022596
Good eve, CitizenChad! Port, as always, is being imbibed heavily; lots to celebrate!

Hope you are doing well; is the Citizen running okay? (I'm sure it is). Any new watches in the pipeline?

I missed you all.

>>18022603
What are you celebrating fren?

Both of the Citizens run well actually. The Stiletto still has no perceivable difference in it's timekeeping.
Haven't had my eyes on a new watch yet, do you have a piece in your radar?

Kofe time.

>>18022606
Celebrating life and family: the most important things. I have a little time off, so I'm able to 'let the hair down' a bit, so a drink is in order.

I'm glad to hear that the Citizens are running well. My 0100 continues to be solid and reliable, and though I've been tempted by a few different vintage watches, I haven't really pulled the trigger because I'm waiting for the watch market to stabilize more.

I wish I could join you in Kofe, but it'll keep me awake. I hope you have a wonderful day, CitizenChad, and that you are able to achieve what you wish.

>>18022478
It wouldn't be so bad if you could just buy whatever watches you wanted and never associate with them again. The bullshit forced scarcity and lineup changes kind of forces people to gather around and talk about their watches.

>>18022584
Tudors are pretty outstanding when you consider that they will actually sell you a watch. Omegas are fine and also pretty available but a lot of the models are overpriced for what they are, like the aquaterras.

>>18022612
The fact that a company can sell you a watch that you want is not remarkable or a sign of being 'outstanding', though it might depend on where you live. I am close to a Breitling, Tag Heuer, Omega, Rolex, Tudor, and other ADs...and only the Rolex one has no stock, with the Omega one having no stock on very specific models (i.e. Ed White and Snoopy). Even the VC and Hublot Boutiques are full, along with the JLC and Panerai ones too. When last I was in JLC, they had the new chronograph....

No, I maintain my position. Tudors are terrible if you have the funds for an Omega or Rolex. The only Tudor that is great is the Advisor, which no one owns or knows about. Most of the other models are Rolex copes or Omega copes.

If you love a specific Tudor, then that's all that matters. But if we start to play the comparison game, then they will always lose because they are an affordable Rolex cope by design.

>>18022615
new 'Reverso' chronograph. Sorry...druk.

>>18022615
I dunno, I'm starting to think the bb54 is if nothing else a more interesting watch to look at than a submariner because it's a more colorful watch. Black with gilt hands and markers and the red triangle for the lume pip is nice, the blue and other colors look nice. The only thing I really don't like about them is the fugly infected toe hour hands. Other than that, it just looks cool and is a lot cheaper than a sub which also makes more sense for a watch you might actually do work and play and outdoorsy shit in.

>>18022449
Is that the one that still uses third party movements? I heard some of their watches don't use in house calibers and I thought one of them was the 1926.

>>18022620
I won't disagree at all with the reasons you like it. You're quite right; it's far more interesting than the Sub, with a larger colour palette and more variety in the shapes and designs that permeate the general aesthetic. Of course, it's cheaper than the sub too. However.

The movement is worse than the Rolex in terms of performance and reliability (assuming that Rolex has fixed the issues surrounding their current movement). The cases are thicker than Rolex, and the bezel action definitely feels worse. If the water resistance is the same or better for the Rolex, then we get back to the original point I made before: the Tudor is a Rolex cope, and is built to be such. BUT! If you love the design of the Tudor, and don't feel the need to eventually 'upgrade' to the Rolex Sub, then you win by getting one. Just be sure to buy on the secondary market, as they devalue like nearly all Tudors.

If you'd choose the Tudor over a Rolex, then that's reason enough to get the Tudor and never look back. That's absolutely respectable and understandable. There are Anons who can't fathom why I'd choose my Omegas over anything else...but it's because I love the specific model watches themselves for their aesthetic beauty and performance: they are the 'ideal' of what they can do, in my eyes.

If a Tudor does that for you, then you win too. But if there is any doubt in your heart about the performance or aesthetic value, then I'm afraid you may eventually lose money in the process of buying a Tudor and then 'upgrading' later on to the Rolex you really wanted in the first place.

>>18022608
Have a good and safe eve too fren, don't hit the port too hard.
Enjoy your well deserved time off.

>>18022624
Thanks CitizenChad; hope you have a wonderful day!

Baked a new bread, Frens.

>>18022626
>>18022626
>>18022626

GO GO GO!

>>18022588
You just have to wait a bit...it's not impossible.

>>18022628
It kept restarting the 300 seconds over an over. Had to retort to phoneposting in data and still tehre took a couple of times

>>18022623
Which omegas do you like and why do you like them?

>>18021371
Told me it’s a stainless speedy
>>18021323
Can pretty much confirm it’s this or very similar

>>18021623
wait really? What's the mans name? did they find out?

>>18022584
Thanks! I also really like the cutouts, even though I thought I wouldn't.

>>18022620
You could even have someone swap the hands. True Patina on ig did and it looks nice.

>>18020971
you dont need to be a weeblord to enjoy the akatsuki.
just as you can hate capeshit movies yet enjoy avengers endgame.

>>18022639
thanks for the update bro.

>>18022623
You're such a simple minded fool that is blinded by your own bias. You have the cancer that is Rolex centrism yet you own none.

>>18021537
lol