/fa/ - Fashion

Looks like a Ali Express shitter

Got an M5510U and a titanium modding kit
Whoever approved the idea that at this size E-rings are acceptable should seppoku immediately

>>17989058
>M5610
Anyway, looks great in person, need a better camera, because the pics are shit

Today I will post my watch to the watch thread.

>>17989063
>>17989063
got you, it's this one, right?

I got this as a gift I like it

>>17989064
Bloody L anon

Certina DS-1, Longines Conquest (300m wr) or Tissot Gentleman for an everyday watch?

>>17989077
Grand Seiko 9f

Going to get in a cue to get a Rolex. Already let the dealer beat my dog, do burnouts in my car and tomorrow he's taking a ride on my wife.
Wish me luck guys the dealer said I'm defiantly maybe possibly getting short listed.

>>17989067
>>17989058

Nice.

>>17989090
dog speed anon

>>17988975
A cool video that showed up on my feed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfWdhMyR9xI

Which one is the real watch? The one on the left or the one in the little bags?

>>17989094
Might offer to spend $100k at the AD gotta get that $20k piece brah...

>>17989103
Good video, but this ship of Theseus jerking is fucking cringey. It doesn't matter what is the original or what percentage is the original etc. This "pass it on the your children" is dumb anyways and only applies to clocks in actual real life situations. You can't flex with a clock though so nobody cares.

I miss him bros..

>>17989110
>This "pass it on the your children" is dumb anyways
This makes me appreciate cheap watches more because they don't pretend that they can last a lifetime and be cherished by your great-grand-children.
Watches should be appreciated for the moment, not for the fake claims of long lasting luxury items.
They are fragile trinklets, unlike gold rings or even necklaces.

>>17989077
Longines sits higher up the Swatch brand pyramid than Certina or Tissot.

looking to buy a first watch and want a niceish chronograph

should i get a speedmaster for ~4k or splurge a little more and get a tudor big block for ~6k

the tudor is nice, a bit more rare, and I like that it has a vintage flair to it but idk that its worth 2k more

im also looking at an olympic edition speedmaster for 3k for what thats worth, I do like it but it's a little smaller than id like (39mm)

>>17989103
buy an ad faggot
and read an actual book because the story was wrong
this is false equivalency, in the sense that if all the replaced parts are "original" the watch is the same as any other from the assembly line
the whole comparison is stupid because for items nobody really cares, unless it's taxed so the government registers the chassis and the motor of your cars
it's just a good way to illustrate problems with our current understanding of body, brain, mind, self and soul not worrying if the functional watch that is on the wrist the same with new parts or it's actually the box of non-functioning scarps that get thrown away

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>>17989126
I want OmegaDrunk to join this server. Make it happen.

Guide to posters

Major avatarfags
=============

>Poortadello/OmegaDrunk
Multi-reply specialist. Canadian. Gay. Only posts about his own watches. Very repetitive posts. Has several obscure Omegas only he cares about. Notorious for samefagging. Obsessed with BitterAnon.

>Whoretadello
Balding Greek living in Germany. Has a tendency of buying too large watches. Cleans cars for a living. Has a Tudor, Homos, and some Seikos. Life currently falling apart, filling the void with materialism and falling in love with strippers. Unfortunately alive. Possibly lying low due to tax evasion attempt he made plans for prior to his trip to Japan. >>17927791

>Citizen drunk/Finncel
25% Finnish, 50% Swedish, rest is a mystery. Lives in Finland. Works as a shelver in a grocery store. Alcoholic. Repetitive posts about alcohol, coins and Eco-Drives. Tragic case of gyno.

>Mortadello
Very positive and friendly, but doesn't post anything of any consequence. Lawyer. Obese. Posts improving photos of amazing watches. Lies about his age. Does not take criticism well.

Semi-regular posters
================

>HamiltonDrunk
Posts a single picture per thread before getting drunk and passing out. Owns a Hamilton. Works in television and film.

>Nobully anon
Trans. Has rich parents who have bought them several VCs.

>Cockwatch
Has one F-91W, has posted it on his cock. Mostly posts the Casio with Soviet knick-knacks. Wants to be Emma Watson. Russian living in Latvia with mommy. Has ties to BitterAnon.

>ALS anon
Has an 1815 Up/Down. Stays under the radar, but occasionally pops his head up to flex and complain

>Hungarian anon
Is a watchmaker, complains about his customers

>Central Florida Anon
Looking for a wristlet to love

>Raketanon
Has 3 soviet Raketa watches and a Raketa table clock. Likes his big 0. Wanted to be listed and got listed.

>BitterAnon
Who is the mysterious BitterAnon? It could be anyone! It could even be you! Currently residing inside the heads of several avatarfags.

>>17989127
that would be a dream come true

>>17989122
I don't understand, the Speedmaster Professional is vintage too, no? They purposefully keep that line the same as the 1969 model. Visually speaking.

>>17989122
The big block uses a 7750 which is a reliable movement that is easy to service for every watchmaker. I didn't know they sell so high which is a bit of a bummer for that movement in my opinion. The speedy is classic and a very nice watch depending on the model they can be easy to service as well. Everything after the introduction of coax is basically bound for an in house service.

How are the conditions of each watch? Do they need a service right away or are they already serviced? A chrono service at omega can cost around 1k which should be considered when choosing a used model.

>>17989128
>Who is the mysterious BitterAnon?
YOU.

Guide to BitterAnon
================

>BitterAnon
Unemployed autist. Gay. Obese. Schizophrenic. Notorious for samefagging. Hates people posting their watches. Seethes at everyone. Posts list & chart. Obsessed with OmegaDrunk and Whoretadello. Shills Rolex despite not owning one. Excellent at ban evading. Posts from multiple devices.

>>17989130
Yeah I guess what I mean is the professional has kept the same look forever, whereas the big block is no longer made so it serves as more of a time capsule which I like, along with the mismatched rolex crown/caseback/bracelet with it still being a tudor watch and all that

but youre right in that the speedy professional is vintage in that its looked the same since forever

>>17989131
>How are the conditions of each watch? Do they need a service right away or are they already serviced? A chrono service at omega can cost around 1k which should be considered when choosing a used model.

I'm going off chrono24 listings so it's hard for me to say. Visually they both look good, the speedmaster more so since its from ~2005 and the big block is from around 1990 but as far as a service goes I'm not sure. I'd probably lean towards needing one more than not just to be safe. The speedy also doesn't come with a steel bracelet which I'd like to have but that's not pressing and I'll probably just buy one later.

>>17989138
Original omega bracelets are rather expensive, if you want a real one. Personally I wouldn't trust any claim of service without proof, like an invoice. As the speedy is from before the coax era it shouldn't be a problem to get it serviced for a good price from a good independent watchmaker.
Bracelet + Service might net you around the price for the big block but that one would need a service as well. So it all comes down to your personal preference, although the big block might be a couple of hundreds up to 1k more expensive than the speedy.

>>17988975
>https://theoandharris.com/
Theo is really annoying.

>>17989126
I'm not from Germany and i'm too poor to travel anyway so imma skip that.

>>17989045
All watches look like Ali express shitters

>>17989128
Please shut the fuck up

>>17989126
>2 members
LMAO

>>17989045
>>17989175
It's almost like AliExpress copies existing watches or something.

>>17989178
hes samefagging in discord

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DON'T MISS OUT ON THE MEETUP OF A LIFETIME.

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>>17989193
>ALL YOUR FAVOURITE /wt/ POSTERS WILL BE THERE.
Who exactly?

>>17988975
Hey watch thread.
Which Rolex should I get to boost my game?
Open to other watch brands as well.

>>17989203
This thread is not in /fa/ by choice. I don't care about watches as fashion pieces, sorry. But probably a fake datejust with a jubilee bracelet and then generally start dressing like a sleazebag.

>>17989128
>>17989132
> bitter anon is a discord tranny

>>17989177
no

>>17989211
So Cockwatch is bitteranon and anti-bitteranon? He's also Whoretadello and samefags in Discord now? Fucking pathetic Jeezzzz.

>>17989118
Luftwaffen chad

>>17989193
>DON'T MISS OUT ON THE MEETUP OF A LIFETIME.
will you be posting pictures where you don’t blur out anyone’s face but your own?

People often talk about watches that are too big. But what about watches that are too small? Personally I think if 3 of the bracelet links are on top of your wrist (so not quite like the redditor in pic related but close) the watch will look too small. Excluding the end link of course.

>>17989225
based

>>17989231
kek.
Anyway you guys got any emoji ideas?

>>17989235
Something bitter I'd imagine.

>>17989242

>>17989235
Why don’t you ask the other guy who joined?

>>17989218
yes, cockwatch runs this thread.

>>17989233
I have a seven inch wrist so even a 50mm watch doesn't look too big even if the lugwidth is 55mm
on the other hand, I stay away from anything from 39mm because they look like a kids watch
>picrel, even this seems on the small side

>>17989233
woof woof

>>17989193
Hmm… going to a mediocre Japanese restaurant and voluntarily hanging out with a weeaboo ostensibly to talk about his watches? Getting doxxed afterwards?

Gonna be honest, I don’t see the appeal.

>>17989244
I was o standby on the VC for a while. Wanted to ask them there.

>>17989193
>Deutschenlanden Meetup
Tokyo Gang! Unite!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_aqFX6y7aE
>Millionaire collectors are like totally OBSESSED with $600 Baltics. Very high level collectors are showing off Baltics regularly, and people are constantly recommending a Baltic over $20k something watches!
>This video is totally NOT sponsored by Baltic btw.

>>17989268
baltic bros..............

>>17988975
Does anyone have that meme with the tudor blackshield where its all edgy and like the shadow the hedgehog meme?

>>17988975
Post the dangerous (sexy) watch pics

>>17989302
they are in the discord sevrer

>baldo mcfaggitson btfo so hard so many times she needs a transcord server to hide in now

lmfaooooooooooooooo can’t wait to see the group pic, I’m sure there will be many full healthy hairlines.

>>17989321
bitta

>>17989321
Have you ever seen pics of ANY /fa/ meetup? I’ve never seen one that isn’t depressing.

>>17989302
You trying to get him banned again?

>>17989341
well /wt/ is different, it's a /g/ thread.
I sometimes, by accident, check out the rest of /fa/ and it truly is a completely different world.

>>17989302
>>17989306
>>17989343
got them all
may dump them later just to fuck with the jannies
and I can RDP to servers in dozen countries so range ban won't work :D

Just a reminder, the discord server is basically an extension of 4chan. Be responsible with your identity, don't accidentally doxx yourself.


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>>17989200
Me. I'll be there.

>>17989354
based, I wouldn't want my good name to be associated with tax evasion and prostitution

>>17989367
>tax evasion and prostitution
wtf those are my two middle names

>>17989348
Fucking based

>>17989348
the hero we need.

>>17989354
Damn, man. You need to get yourself into the skincare general.

should just rob some schmuck for his rolex?

Honestly I can't really justify spending 10K, 40K, 80K on a watch, even if I can afford it. I have a handgun tho.

Stealing Rolex effay?

I like Oris.

>>17989438
Based blue collar worker

>>17989126
Please let us know the exact location of your meetup when you get a chance, and the number of attendants, thanks.

>>17989451
Nah, join the discussion. Everything will be kept in there.

>>17989453
>Nah, join the discussion. Everything will be kept in there.

what's a good nose hair trimmer to go along with my watch? (omega speedmaster)

>>17989453
except the uhren, those will be posted here when the jannies become uppity

>>17988990
Didn't seem to bother him, was also not the first time I've seen him there wearing it. Of course it shouldn't be a surprise you fags will find a problem anywhere.

>>17989456
Holy BASED

What are you wearing today?

Pic related for me

>>17989448
Imagine being proud of a Lexus other than an LFA

>>17989462
>>17988990
all of my watches are usually on a bracelet and I test them at least a few rounds in the sauna
my fitness tracker survived at least a hundred 15 minute rounds in the past 6 months, it just overheated a few times when I forgot to cover it
the bracelet didn't even get warmer than my skin
on one hand I don't get why are you pussies about this, and the other let people enjoy things

busybody behavior should get the rope

Citizen Eco-Drive on the wrist today. What are you wearing, frens?

>Citizen Eco-Drive on the wrist today. What are you wearing, frens?

>>17989472
imagine being proud of anything other than a pagani or koenigsegg LMAO
get off my board if you have a ferrari. I cant think straight with all the poverty around

>>17989485
kek
i have been marked.

>>17989485
if you don't have a space shuttle on call for your business trips, don't bother replying

>>17989485
lol bitter that no one likes your toyota

>>17989488
>he doesn't have a space station with a private elevator connecting to it

>>17989489

>>17989467
I'm seriously considering the same watch, as an everyday casual and for activities like going to the beach, concerts, disco... How long have you had this watch? Is the metal holding well? Is it comfortable?
I have 6.5in wrists

>>17989492
Cope, holy

>>17989495
>''it's a toyota''
>''yeah. I know''
>''Cope''
Well. Bitter gonna Bitter.

>>17989494
>casual and for activities like going to the beach, concerts, disco
Got it for the exact same reasons about a year ago, it's been my daily driver ever since. Metal is holding up well, so is the crystal surprisingly.

I think it's super comfortable as it's lightweight and pretty slim. The strap is nothing special but more than decent for my use. Steel dial makes it pretty legible (compared to the all black version for example) and the backlight is great to have in the dark.

Would recommend/10

>>17989497
True. You don’t talk crap about a man’s car. He’s allowed to be bitter, even if he was trying to flex.

>>17989472
buying a lexus over an audi/benz is like buying a GS over a rolex.

It immediately shows that you care about product quality over brand recognition. German cars are pretty much lease machines and fall apart after the warranty period, meanwhile any lexus will reach 250,000 miles with routine maintenance
t. works at an audi dealership

>>17989510
>buying a lexus over an audi/benz is like buying a GS
Funny enough, my Lexus is a GS
kek

>>17989510
>buying a lexus over an audi/benz is like buying a GS over a rolex.

Yes. They are both functions of being able to afford the former and not the latter.

Can we talk about watches?
Take the car stuff to >>>/o/ and the weeb meetup stuff to >>>/lgbt/

>>17989513
>Audi is more expensive than Lexus
They are literally in the same price range. I don't usually reply to bitters, I just want to see how far you're going to push this.
I am here for the fun.

>>17989513
equivalent lexus and audi models are pretty much the same price, the only difference is the german cars devalue by %50 after leaving the dealership.

>>17989504
Thank you for the feedback
About the strap, I was thinking to take advantage of the quick swap system, buy one of these and alternate with the original black depending on the occasion.

>>17989504
it's not saphire?

>>17989534
No problem. Blue one looks cool tbqh, gotta get one of those for summertime.

>>17989540
Mineral, but to be fair it has taken a beating well. Not a single scratch on mine despite the abuse I've put it through.

>>17989549
I see, well mineral and mineral are different. I assume it's obe of the higher graded ones.

>>17989551
Mineral crystal means tempered glass, like Pyrex. Different companies use different kinds. It’s not as if there’s specific grades, though.

>>17989077
Try on both the Gentleman and Conquest and see which you prefer.

>>17989433
Honestly yeah, robbing rich people is sick as fuck. I dream of some scallywag trying to rob me (live in lmaonoguns and am big as fuck)

>>17989472
Cars are gay and caring about them is gay

>>17989561
>>17989551
>>17989540
although all mineral is shit whether they're on the higher end or the lower end of the mineral spectrum, g-shock crystal don't tend to scratch much because of the pronounced bezel on all of them, you're much more likely to scratch the bezels of any metal g-shock than the crystal, and if you have a resin one you're basically safe until you would completely shatter the crystal by a direct pierce

>>17989591
Why exactly is mineral shit? Isn't it still extremely durable?

>>17989591
You can get screen protectors for them as well.

>>17989607
This is some military grade autism.

>>17989606
It’s not that it’s bad, but sapphire is better and nowadays it’s so incredibly cheap (growing synthetic crystals is much more efficient today than it used to be) that a watch with a mineral crystal just screams trying to save every last penny on the part of the company.

>>17989433
>Nigger behavior
At least be real and admit that you could never actually buy one instead of "justifying" a purchase. Absolutely disgusting poorfag.

>>17989612
The seiko stubbornness with putting their hardlex shit on everything makes me think they just made like a billion of them and decided not put sapphire until they run out of it.

lexus more like sexlus unless youre paying for it right? fucking dumb bald divorced idiot lmfaoooo

FRANKFURT: Buying an expensive watch abroad and wearing it during return journey to evade paying Customs duty may prove costlier than one may believe. As per law, it is an act of smuggling even if the time piece is intended for personal use.

An automobile detailing professional, who is under the scanner of the Federal Central Tax Office (BZSt) for smuggling in over a dozen premium watches in the recent past, is an aficionado who bought them for personal use, revealed a preliminary probe by the agency, sources said. The watches have since been seized and will be auctioned off by the agency. The accused is in his thirties.

The accused smuggled in the watches during several overseas trips undertaken by him owing to his enthusiasm for premium watches, as a part of his hobby, said sources in the BZSt.

Most of the watches seized by the BZSt are ‘luxury’ watches having exceptionally high value, said sources.

The BZSt officials said that acting on an anonymous tip, a team of the agency arrested the accused at Flughafen Frankfurt Main (FRA) on his arrival from Tokyo, Japan. At the time of his arrest, the accused was allegedly carrying a swiss made Rolex wristwatch and a “very expensive japanese Seiko wristwatch” on each of his wrists, which had not been declared before Customs to avoid paying the duty, said the agency. The accused was arrested by the BZSt.

After questioning the accused, the DRI team had carried out a search of his residence located above an upscale brothel in the Central German Metropolitan Region. A Frankfurt court subsequently released the accused on bail.

The search yielded a virtual trove of 11 more high-end watches of various premium brands he had purportedly smuggled into the country during several overseas trips.

The accused claimed during his questioning that he would wear the watches while smuggling them in and insisted they were old and used articles, to evade the payment of 17.5% customs duties plus VAT, sources said.

>>17989631
Here is a hint - if you are smuggling a watch to sell it later buy one of these citizens because no one in the world would think this shit costs 7k.

>>17989619
Dude, wow, that's borderline unhealthy. If you want to talk it out with me, we can talk on the voice chat. This isn't normal.
I don't know what I did to you.

>>17989637
I assume that it's one of the ''The Citizen''-lineup, right? What's the model number and what makes it so expensive?

Whats on the wrist today

buying watches on eBay, good idea or no?

>>17989644
Eco-Drive Caliber 0100
AQ6021-51E
Le most accurate wristwatch in za world

>>17989637
who the fuck is going to pay 7K for that tho?

>>17989637
Is it produced en masse or somewhat exclusive?

>>17989657
buying a used watch is usually like buying a used car with unknown mileage and no service history

>>17989637
>>17989658
now if they would rename it to Citizen Kane and design very good dials and we may have a Grand Seiko competitor
now it's just a bland watch, probably somebody left the engineering team do whatever they wanted without involving marketing and design to make it cool

Would you ever buy a watch in white gold

It seems like it looks a little too close to steel to justify spending that much more on it

Any more watches with this kind of black-and-white color scheme?

>>17989711
Seiko Panda?

>>17989711
Not really.

>>17989715
Too much color with the red, and I really don't like that case shape.

>>17989714
I don't mean panda dials, more like "half-half" type deals on the bezel and/or dial.

Why does no one talk about this watch?

>>17989735
because it's a swatch, and omega doesn't want us to know where their watches are being produced so people assume it's 90% chinese.

>>17989735
$7500 is pretty steep and I personally don't like six o'clock dates. It's in a tough spot price wise because it competes with Rolex, JLC, and Grand Seiko while simultaneously looking worse in my opinion than all three. I know it is popular in certain circles though and Omega sells a lot of them.

i implore you all to get a grand seiko 9f and end this gay consoooooomerist hobby once and for all

>>17989741
SOULLESS

>>17989741

>>17989741
That's bland AF dude. GS is known for their dials, that one is a huge compromise.

>>17989735
It's well liked, but not in watch nerd cycles. Plenty of normalfags who like them.

>>17989741
I had this watch, gets boring real fast.

What are some watches brands that make good dress watches under 1500$?

>>17989766
Seiko cocktail times, get one for every suit and combo.

>>17989766
HOMOS

>>17989750
>>17989762
>bland
>boring
that's how you know it's a good watch

>>17989771
This is unironically true no cap. You know how boring the rolex submariner design is? And look at all the copy cats. That design has been through the ringer and has been repeated hundreds if not thousands of times. I don't like the particular watch you posted but you are right in saying what you said here.

>>17989778
yup

Where do I go after this?

>>17989786
a mechanical Credor. Around 3K
From around 2011

>>17989741
>no lume
>no bazle to time stuff
It's just not desirable for me

>>17989786
The SJE093, which is pretty much one for one a 62MAS.

>>17989786
grand seiko 9f
>>17989789
you can get picrel then

>>17989786
Rolex

>>17989678
German watches are based

>>17989786
Sarx

>>17989837
That MoP dial is pretty nice.

>>17989837
Based on what?

>>17989735
Too big

>>17989067
Fun!

>>17989119
Agreed; I see it slightly differently but in the same direction. To me, 'passing it on to the next generation' is just an attempt at justifying buying it in the first place. Given that my 321 came from a father who's son didn't want it, I've had direct experience in that realm regarding intent vs. result. Bottom line is that we buy these things for ourselves, we enjoy them ourselves, and after we're dead, it won't matter to us.

>>17989122
Go to an authorized dealer to try on the Speedy; you'll either love it or not, and that should tip the needle. Is the Tudor in the current lineup? (sorry, don't know Tudors at all) If so, try it on too, and if not, then try on something similar. Speedies hold their true-market value rather well, so if you buy one second-hand for 4k, you should be able to sell it for 4k if you don't mess with it. Olympic editions seem to be very volatile; it all depends on if you really love the watch or not. They don't tend to hold value well. Good luck!

>>17989123
It does matter given that he had Omega service it. The most important part that they replaced was the dial; by doing so, the value of the watch dropped significantly. In vintage circles, no one really cares it the movement has replacement parts (assuming those are original manufacturer and correct for the movement). They do care if the outer aesthetic is altered (everything from polishing to dial and handset replacement). So it's rather sad, actually. His watch is still 'his' watch, but it's now less valuable than it was before.

>>17989126
Good luck Frens; I won't be able to join you, but I hope you all have fun!

>>17989127
>>17989129
It's a very busy time for me and Deutchland is very far away from me. I'll be with you 'in spirit'. What are you two wearing, Frens?

>>17989225
Love it...been thinking of getting one for years.

>>17989479
Speedy today, for paperwork.

>>17989673
I did, and it's been worth every pfennig.

>>17989735
I really like it, but it's in the same 'bucket list' as other co-axials that I like...I'm simply scared to own them because I don't have a trusty watchmaker who can work on them. My own watchmaker is getting old enough now that I think I may have to get someone new, so I don't want to get anything with co-ax unless my watchmaker has an Omega account for parts. I love the proportions of the dial though, specifically the hand length, hour marker length, and the pie-pan proportions. Excellent watch, ugly as shit bracelet. Blue is better than the white.

>worth every pfennig...

>>17989909
based omega drunk

>>17989346
can confirm
>>>/g/98633619

>>17989909
the man, the myth, the legend
toasting with a Laphroaig Lore for your return
what are you drinking tonight?

>>17989949
Finally someone with a Credor

>>17989949
That thing looks like AI tried to make a Cartier Santos.

my beautifully slim KS

I hope this photo doesn’t rotate but it probably will

>>17989978
Based non rotating vintage KS enjoyer

>>17989950
Yes, truly this is the only human in this thread that owns a credor. There are no others who qualify as human.

>>17989978
way too big for you

>>17989978
More like K WHY S.

Thinking about buying a Chocolate Labrador, opinions?

Any other watches similar to this? Looking for a nice dress watch

>>17990048
What's your price range?

>>17990057
Pretty much this desu.

>>17990048
gs 9f

>>17990062
Here's what you should do. Unironically.

Go to a really nice watch shop. Once that carries high end brands. Rolex, Cartier, etc. I know you're not going to buy one, but try those watches on. Get a feel for them. Look how nicely they're made.
Then get your hands on a Seiko and you'll notice it's junk you won't want to waste your money on. You'll realize you're better off with a bare wrist and saving your money.

I made that mistake when I was younger. I consooomed tons of cheap ass watches, microbrands, Japanese watches, all sorts of crap. When I was 30 a bought my first Rolex, I sat down and did a little math. I realized that I could have had that Rolex five years earlier if I had exercised a little impulse control and self-respect and saved my money until I bought the watch I actually wanted, not the watch I wanted right now.

Got married and bought a gold wedding ring, how do i wear my steel watches now without clashing?

>>17990085
???? Nigga how little are you earning? You can get into a Rolex starting at like 5k-6k. At no point should you ever be thinking "Oh no, if only I hadn't spent a few thousand in my previous years of living, I could have saved up those few grand and bought something more expensive." Are you a paperboy or something? This doesn't work even as a funny trollpost unless you have no clue about watches and think a nornal Rolex costs 30 thousand or something.

>>17990093
Well part of it is that I didn't want a used, beaten up DJ.

>>17990096
I really hope for your sake that's someone else's pic and you're not actually living beyond your means scrounging up pennies and saving money for five years just to make a 10k purchase. Although it would fit the stereotypical image.

>>17990093
Unfortunately the question isn't necessarily if you can afford it so much as if an AD will sell one to you. You want to pay retail because the secondary market prices are even more retarded but depending on how tight fisted and/or destitute and/or degenerate your local ADs are they literally might not sell you a watch for years even if you have the money. You can tell them straight up with bank statements as proof that you have millions of dollars in the bank and money is no object and you want to buy a daytona, if you have no purchase history with them they'll almost definitely tell you no either because they literally can't get one or because they have 3 other established customers that have already bought thousands of dollars worth of stuff still waiting to get one.

>>17990102
bitta

>>17990105
Really anon? You don't think that was bitter?
>>17990085

>>17990107

>>17990102 is bitter
>>17990085 is actually based advice

>>17990103
The situation in this regard depends on where you live and whether we're speaking of the retarded corona virus times.

>>17990085
I actually really love my seiko. My spb143 has become my favourite watch in my collection now.

>>17990085
Are you retarded he's asking for something that looks like a sharp edge. Rolex doesn't make something like that.

>>17990113
>Rolex doesn't make something like that.
You're right. No Rolex could ever leave their factory with a movement that's accurate to -15/+25 seconds per day.

>>17990048
In that price range? Not really. And even when you go to more expensive choices, a look like that is rare. Go with those Presages I guess.

>>17990109
My AD just told me last week they haven't had rolexes come in for 5 years.

This general is so contrarian people try seething about Rolex and Seiko at the same time. Well "people", bitterfag rather.

>>17990113
Isn't the sharp edge literally just a datejust cope?

>>17990119
Where the fuck do you live? I'm in Europe and my ad has the standard models for 10k and below on display and immediately purchasable.

>>17990122
>Isn't the sharp edge literally just a datejust cope?
Not at all. It's shitty case design and inaccurate movement make it unique.

>>17990122
If it is I'm not seeing it? It doesn't have any of the iconic datejust things about it. And the most important thing about the sharp edge is, obviously, the dial. Which shares no similarities to any Rolex.

If an AD tells yoi all of their rolexes are floor models and they don't have any for sale, but the rolexes on the floor they're letting you try on have price tags on them, does that mean they are lying to you? It doesn't make sense to me to let someone you never intend to sell a watch try on all the watches but people are retarded so you have to wonder.

>>17990125
>both 3 hand with date watches in water resistant cases with nearly identical dimensions
What was I thinking? You're right, anon, there are no similarities at all.

It seems there's some dissonances going on here? Where I live gray market Rolex prices are dropping and dealers aren't pretending like standard models are unobtainium you need to make other purchases first for.

>>17990131
That's really stretching it dude. A cope should constitute a watch looking like another, and those do not.

>>17990138
That style of case and bracelet is colloquially called oyster for a reason.

>>17990131
Can't believe every Rolex is just a Santos Dumont cope...

>>17990131
>He thinks 100m wr is somewhat notable in 2023
>He thinks people associate the datejust with those things and not cyclops + jubilee + fluted bezel
Funny lil nigga, still believes in marketing.

>>17990141
Who gets oyster bracelets on a DJ? Jubilee or bust.

>>17990152
It's the original bracelet for the watch.

>>17990120
bluds is bitter

>>17990152
me I think it looks good

>>17990156
Yeah and originally it was correctly seen for what it was. A practical mass produced steel watch with useful robustness features. Not something remotely close to a Patek or VC.

>>17990144
They don't look or wear similar at all though. The rolex and seiko models we're talking about are actually the same watch barring finishing details. I'd even bet the same curved end straps and bracelets fit both watches.

>>17990160
I don't see how any of that is relevant. Nobody is talking about Patek or vascheron.

>>17990161
Anon the Seiko is 39mm...

>>17990048
How similar exactly?

>>17990165
Don't both have 20mm lugs? Sometimes the stated specs on a watch are rounded or dependent on how they want to measure or represent or advertise the watch, so the true measurements could be off by as much as a millimeter. I'd still bet money if you bought 20mm fitted end steel or fkm straps from Amazon or any generic vender they'd fit the same on either watch.

can you niggers stop crying about seiko or rolex and talk about actually interesting things huh? And stop caring or posting about the avatarfags please

>>17990197
Instead of bitching about it you could have already posted something else to talk about. ENWORD.

>>17990127
This anon here, still trying to figure out if I'm living in a simulation.

>>17990213
ok then, is a quartz Vitorinox Alliance any good?

>>17990219
Explain why you think this is an interesting topic.

How did archieluxury get so much money? He seems like a lifelong NEET.

>>17989978
These side illuminated shots of Seikos where the shadow forms a crescent always look so cool.

>>17990141
You wish.

>>17990197
does any one have any recent experience with Bucherer or did you notice any changes with other ADs since Rolex bought them?

>Buying a cheaper G-Shock as a cope for a higher-end G-Shock
Has this ever happened before

>>17990372
every non-MRG G-shock is cope
see the modding scene >>17989058
>>17989061
>>17989249
on the other hand the markup for an MRG square compared to using mod kit upgrade is about 3500$

Citizen Eco-Drive on the wrist today. What are you wearing, frens?

>>17989949
>ctrl+f ''Cred-''
Based

>''Citizen Eco-Drive on the wrist today. What are you wearing, frens?''

>>17990127
M8 I think it's because of advertising. You will talk about this ''Experience'' that you had to others, like you did now. And people will think about rolex. Same reason why they let fake oens exist. It's all just free advertisement.

>>17990406
Based.

Kofe time.

>>17990414
You said it brother.

>Based.
>Kofe time.
>You said it brother.

>>17990127
>If an AD tells yoi all of their rolexes are floor models and they don't have any for sale, but the rolexes on the floor they're letting you try on have price tags on them, does that mean they are lying to you?

You're overthinking it. The price tag is to let people know what the model costs. Rolex started insisting their ADs carry floor models during the height of the hype, since it was embarassing to see all those pics of completely empty cases.
They even started providing floor models that didn't come with a movement installed.

>>17990415
He's back. Can't stop the signal.
What did the mods try nail on you this time?

Coin postin'

>>17990405
What is this watch called?

>Coin postin'

>>17990419
They think I am ban evading, which simply isn't true. That expired in December + I was gone for 3 weeks.
>>17990421
Credor GCAR965

>>17990421
GCAR965
Credor Eichi II cope for people who can't afford to cope with a Kuon.

>>17990423
You did get some of your posts removed ITT. I assumed you were back on their radar for sexyposting

>>17990425
I did? Maybe the mirror pic that I took. Yeah that one is gone.

>>17990414
>>17990415
after kofe back to shitter posting

I am poor and it's my birthday in one month, would /wt/ buy me a watch?

>>17990433
only a real god tier watch
come to the discord and post your address

.gg/yd7Tr4HS

>>17990436
kek, maybe a paypal.me or something

>>17990436
Stop spamming your discord and stop trying to doxx users.

>>17990442
how about stop begging then?>>17990437

>>17990432
Based

>>17990432
Countering with high horology posting.

>Countering with high horology posting.

>>17990454
I am impressed.

>>17990416 >>17990422 >>17990454
hey bitterbot, we missed you yesterday
what are you wearing today fren?

>>17990462
yeah, he is sniping this thread

Curedoru

>>17990469
Simply based.

That's crazy

>>17990468
I remember when this meme was being made in real time. We went through like four or five versions.
The creator added the rum bottle and all the misspellings based on anons' requests. OmegaDrunk even thought it was funny. He commented that it made him appear skinnier.

(The D part was added by bittercel later in his eternal battle with bitterbot and ruined what was an otherwise lighthearted bit of fun.)

>>17990478
My god that's bitta

>My god that's bitta

>>17990420
Ok

>>17990503
Nice Tudor.

>>17990478
In PLAN B we should add a cock with a Casio.

>>17990516
>In PLAN B we should add a cock with a Casio.
Probably not since Cockwatch was outed as the original BitterAnon. (The one obsessed with Omega Drunk.) Why do you think s/he hasn't been posting as prolifically lately?

>>17990519
>Cockwatch was outed as the original BitterAnon
nani??

>>17990478
This is the fun, non-bitter, version.

>>17990519
>>17990524
see here >>17989211

>>17990531
this is supposed to prove exactly what?

People shit on Rolex but they forget the “good” models from omega like the snoopy etc are unobtainable. Rolex you can get from an ad if you’re patient enough

>>17990541
>People shit on Rolex but they forget the “good” models from omega like the snoopy etc are unobtainable. Rolex you can get from an ad if you’re patient enough

This. Rolex simply cannot make enough watches to satisfy demand, though, this situation is changing with the hype dying down and their new factory coming online. You can't say Rolex isn't trying.
Rolex also doesn't do limited editions like Omega does. Omega is sneaky, though, in that they don't always say their limited editions are limited. (Saying something is limited pisses people off who rightly assume all the watches will go to VIPs and flippers.) The Silver Snoopy, for example, is a "regular production model" they just don't produce very many so getting one is difficult.

>>17990541
you can wait a thousand years and you wont get a pepsi, kermit, daytona etc
there is not actually a literal waiting list, VIP customers will always jump the que

>>17990530
No, this is the original bitter version and plan D edit is the non bitter version.

>>17990541
>''if you're patient enough, they will let you spend 5 digits on a watch that can be faked to 99.9% for 800 dollars''

>>17990551
>t. Bittercel

Would it be theoretically possible to 3d print some sort of “EZ snap on /snap off” plastic bezels for the explorer 36? It could look like a sub/ or have a 12 hour bezel or a useless one to look like a Daytona.

>>17990551
Nah, the original version was fun and we all made it together. It was OmegaDrunk himself who suggested the Bacardi bottle. The bitteranon who made the plan D edit was trying to make someone else seem like bitteranon, back when we thought there was only a single bitteranon.

>>17990555 (checked)

>>17990559
Probably not. Those bezels are not so easy to remove. They're interference fit and hold the crystal in place. You'd kill your water resistance if you tried to replace it with a plastic piece.

If you want a midsize Rolex with a rotating bezel, look up the Turn-o-graph. Those are pretty underrated.

>>17990559
You can, but they would look like shit and break apart very fast

>>17990548
Well you’re just being picky. You CAN get a sub, a gmt master or a two tone Daytona if you’re patient and not picky and you do many return visits to the point that they know you

>>17990565
>You CAN get a sub, a gmt master or a two tone Daytona if you’re patient and not picky and you do many return visits to the point that they know you
Imagine going through all of this to have a right to buy some piece of jewelry for men

>>17990567
well it's not like you can get a watch that's 99.9% the same at 1/40th of the pri-
FUCK

Thoughts on Parmigiano Flour?

>>17990574
Very neat movements, styling is...if you like it, you like it, but they're not all what you'd call universally loved.

I'm just reposting an old pic. But I'm wearing my Sinn as always. Good afternoon.

>he got banned again
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

why does he never learn? what does he think he will achieve by evading bans? why does he simply not stay in his discord?

>>17990555
>>17990560
>>17990493
>>17990530
>bittercel samefagging desperately trying to strawman his way out of his own grave again

schizocel at it again, take your meds and so on

The man who's 3 day ban lasted a lifetime

>>17990628
Nice try, kiddo.

Now how's your bitterness-pickled brain going to cope with this one?
Did I Photoshop this? or was I simply posting simultaneously from four different devices?

>>17990611
Are you German or did you specifically order it with a German language daywheel?

>>17990642
Specifically? It's a German company and the German date wheel is the default one.

I put a down payment of 50K on a building instead of buying a Rolex, AMA

[https://youtu.be/8zRgPK-vtJ0]

>>17990653
Ah. Usually it's something you have to order. Rolex, for example, makes day wheels in a bunch of languages but unless you specify the language, you get the English one.
If you buy one, though, they let you swap it out for free once you get it.

>>17990663
Ah sorry. Now your question makes more sense. Yes, the default one is in German. The English one can be ordered as well and costs just a couple of bucks extra.

>>17990651
Someone posted his actual watch, cool!

Rolex Explorer I (36mm) vs Tudor Black Bay 54.
Just picked up the Tudor a couple days ago. I wanted a midsize diver. I like the old Subs but the last few generations of Sub have been too big and blocky for my taste.

You can see they're pretty similar in size but the Explorer wears MUCH smaller. The 19mm lug width of the Explorer and the bracelet that tapers to a 14mm clasp feels tiny compared to the older 36mm Explorers. They feel about the same in terms of thickness. The Explorer bracelet is better all around but the BB54 now has an on-the-fly microadjust clasp so it's pretty good too.

I think the BB54's dial is more interesting, it's a slightly domed, dark gray sunburst like the Blancpain Bathyscape. The Explorer, of course, has just a regular, glossy black.
I do like that Tudor has stopped, or at least toned down the use of the faux patina lume. The gold surrounds make it look more yellowish, but they're basically the same color.

>>17990684
It's my favorite watch of all time! Thanks for commenting!

>>17990436
I also had a beater in mind, i like the LF20.

>>17990684
As opposed to what? What are you implying?
>>17990690
How's the case finishing on both? Do you feel any difference? I really my Tudor too but I refrain from doing close macro shots because The quality is pretty poor of the dial (I'm talking super macro) and that annoys me. It's a shame because the case, strap and movement are top.

>>17990611
Sinn bro

>>17990700
>How's the case finishing on both? Do you feel any difference?

I like that the Black Bay still has a lug bevel like old Rolexes used to have. The Explorer (and all modern Rolexes) disappoint me in that regard.)

In terms of finishing, though, both look perfect. No swirls or wobbles in the polishing. The brushing is all uniform. No squeaks or rattles in the bracelets. The crowns both wind smoothly. The Rolex is just slightly better in all regards.
In terms of feel, the brushing on the Explorer feels slightly finer when you run your thumbnail across it. The BB54 feels maybe a little coarser, more like my Grand Seiko. Perhaps it has something to do with the 904L steel vs 316L steel.

Which Tudor do you have?

>>17990700
bitter

>>17990714
This one.
I love the feel of the ceramic. And I daily it because it is essentially unscratchable. The crown, like you mentioned, is also probably the best one out of all my watches. It simply feels great overall. Only the edges are polished and that gives it enough style to complement the look. I just wosh that the edges where a tiny bit rounder.
And good thing you mentioned your GS because, the dial and finoshing on my GS is simply so much better that I avoid comparing them.

>>17990700
>As opposed to what?
As opposed to only posting words, often bitter.

>>17990726
Welcome back, for the next few hours.

>>17990658
a building? what for and how is it going to make you money?

>>17990248
he worked in IT and doesn't have a lot of money. he just spends it all on luxury goods so he can look more well off than he actually is. he's even said something along the lines of "I'm just a working class man" in some of his videos. he's also admitted that he buys luxury goods to make himself feel better about himself.

Glengoyne 10 in the glass today. What are you drinking today, frens?

>Glengoyne 10 in the glass today. What are you drinking today, frens?

>>17990740
Extremely classy pic m8. As always.
Non-alcoholic Lime-Lemon ginger ale thingy.

I have been thinking about geeting pic related, I think it looks really nice.
It's not too expensive and I think it suits my style nicely but my friend has told me that it's too feminine and that I should at least get it with a silver rim. I am not too sure.
Thoughts?

>>17990743
Thanks m8

>>17990748
Silver would probably work better and be more versatile.

>>17990748
That date window seems pretty poorly cut and the far inboard placement on the dial means they're using a movement that's too small for the watch.
The numerals at the indices are also bad, like they were placed there to assist Americans in telling the time.
Gold-tone watches are tacky too. If there's a steel option, that's a better buy.

>>17989328
>>17990105
>>17990491
>>17990493
>bitta

>>17990752
>t. Bittacel

>>17990755
Is someone who is very bad at being bitter a bittercel?

Torn between an explorer and a silver dial oyster/domed datejust. datejust would win no question, but I hate the polished center links

>>17990756
It's a portmanteau of bitter incel. You'd think that would be redundant, but the bitteranon who posts from a set of images with very specific filenames is creative enough to warrant his own name: Bittercel.
>>17989094 >>17989132 >>17990468 are all his. >>17990752 is new.
There's probably a bunch more that I don't recognize.

>>17990762
>t. Keeper of /wt/ lore

>>17990752
>>17990755
>>17990756
>Be me, grumpy office worker, hate fancy watches.
>Everyone around flaunts expensive timepieces, like walking billboards for Rolex and Omega.
>My wrist sports a $10 digital watch, practical, no frills.
>Start to boil every time I see a flashy watch.
>One day, confront a colleague bragging about his new Hublot.
>“It's just a watch, dude. Just tells time.”
>He smirks, says something about “appreciating the finer things in life.”
>Blood boiling.
>That night, strange dream.
>In a world where watches control everything.
>Your social status, job, even your lifespan.
>Wake up in cold sweat.
>Next day, notice something off.
>People start treating me differently.
>Colleague with the Hublot is now the boss.
>My $10 watch suddenly looks out of place, like a mark of shame.
>Start to feel invisible, insignificant.
>Desperate, save up, buy a used luxury watch.
>Nothing changes.
>Realize it's not just the watches, it's the people.
>They don't see the watch, they see what they want to see.
>Watch becomes a curse, a reminder of what I'm not.
>Try to throw it away, but it keeps reappearing on my wrist.
>Start to lose it, haunted by ticking sounds.
>Convinced the watches are alive, mocking me.
>Final straw, colleague flaunts a limited edition Vacheron Constantin.
>Snap.
>Try to smash his watch.
>He vanishes into thin air.
>Everyone with fancy watches starts disappearing.
>Realize the watches were keeping them anchored to this world.
>World grows empty, silent except for the ticking of my cursed watch.
>Alone, surrounded by ticking, a prisoner of time.
>No way to escape, no one to hate anymore.
>Just me and my watch, in a timeless void.
>Be careful what you hate, it might be all you're left with.

>>17990762
>>17990765

>t. maker of /wt/ lore

>>17990751
>>17990750
Ok sounds good. How about the overall colour. Does white go with silver you think?
I have seen similar watches use black instead of white but I do prefer the white. In addition, the date window would also look odd on black in my opinion

>The numerals at the indices are also bad, like they were placed there to assist Americans in telling the time
lmao you're right. It does not add to much fashion to the design. It's something to avoid

>>17990762
My bad, a bitterlet. Like a wristlet.

>>17990768
Poorfag cope.

>>17990748
I think you should get it
I think you also need to grow some balls

>>17990768
>t. maker of /wt/ lore
nah, just another bitteranon

>>17990762
Bitter

these threads aren't even about watches anymore. it's all just pointless bickering.

>>17990782
See >>17990690

>>17989131
any idea on servicing costs of non chrono? im looking at getting the omega oreo planet ocean several years used (which is like 30-40% off on Chrono vs new) unless there is a poor fag / cope alternative. love the colour but only one else ive seen is GS....

>>17990782
you misspelled bittering

>>17990787
Cost from Omega to service a regular three-hander is currently around 550-600 USD.
Cost of a chrono is now a whopping 900 USD.

Expensive? Sure. But it's only once every ten years or so (if you wear the watch every day) and it's a luxury product. Upkeep is going to be more expensive for no good reason.
Is like people buying Ferraris and being shocked at the poor fuel economy.

>>17990796
>>17990787
It's not expensive it's a decent price for an in house service. That includes even the polishing of the case and bracelet. It's also 750€ for non chrono watches in my country.

>>17990424
It’s very lovely, I may buy one. Looking for a nice quartz (would appreciate other suggestions too)

heirloom piece?

>>17990804
Unless the case is precious metal, do not pay more than 1000 dollars for a quartz watch.

It's only one guy spamming the word bitter at every post he doesn't like, right? I'm seriously about to filter for bitter, I've never seen a post here using that word that wasn't a waste of time to read.

>>17990782
yeah. its ok in some hours when they sleep and the rest is full of bittering

>>17990819
bitter is the new cope and seethe

Once upon a time on /fa/, the fashion board of 4chan, there dwelled a bitter and envious Anon. His heart burned with jealousy at the sight of others flaunting their beautiful watches on the long-lasting watch thread, known as /wt/.
Filled with spite, he dedicated an excessive amount of time and effort to ruin the fun for everyone else. He replied to every watch he saw, calling them mere "shitters," as if his words could tarnish their elegance.
He became infamous across the board, recognized for his relentless reporting of anything he didn't like. He was known as the living embodiment of bitterness, lurking 24/7, waiting for Citizen watches to be posted so he could mock them, or a whore that poses with Seikos that he would seethe over. The community baptized him as Bitteranon.
He knew that his bitterness stemmed from a deeper root. It was whispered among Anons that his sole timepiece was a cheap Casio, renowned for its affordability. He couldn't cope with others possessing Grand Seikos, Rolexes and even Citizens
One fateful day, Bitteranon found his moment for ridicule, spotting a post from Omegachad. Seizing the opportunity, he unleashed his bitter insults onto his watches, savoring the satisfaction of his jealousy momentarily quelled.
However, in the midst of his triumphant gloating, he unknowingly revealed something that he shoudln't.
He accidentally confessed that he was unable to engage in the pleasures of the flesh with a prostitute. It became apparent that his bitterness towards Whoretadellos lifestyle and Omegadrunks watches was a mere facade, a mask for deep-seated insecurities.
Laughter reverberated through /wt/, drowning out Bitteranon's words. He had unwittingly exposed himself, unveiling his true motives to the merciless horde. No longer was he the bitterwarrior, but a pitiable figure.
Even as he try to remain anonymous, he is isntantly recognized by his bitterness and writing style.
His story continues to this day. Stay Tuned.

>>17990804
Look into vintage Grand and King Seiko, the twin quartz ones.

>>17990822
You sound obsessed.

>>17990822
Good post. It was really ... relevant to a thread about watches.

We even tried to steer the thread back to watch talk
>>17990796
>>17990803
>>17990787

You know who BitterAnon is? It's you. You'd rather have your little anon drama than a watch thread. Go away.

>ctrl + f
>"bitte-"
>52 fucking results

Mods please ban me again. This place is lost.

>>17990822
> he dedicated an excessive amount of time and effort to ruin the fun for everyone else.
Describes someone who writes something like this to a t

>>17990830
>Mods please ban me again.
There's no point. You'll just keep evading bans. Post your mid whores uncensored. Nothing matters.

>>17990832
Ee whatever. I decided not to derail the thread. Deleted my post.

do they make a watch like pic related but for men

>>17990824
Wait, the "penis" seikos are those twin quartz ones? That flew over my head.
They are noticeably cheaper than the mechanical ones, and usually at a much better condition too.

>>17990835
G-Shock Casioak?

>>17990838
too big, only worn by fatasses, impossible to read at a glance etc. I just want a basic analog g shock that doesn't look like it came out of a cereal box.

>>17990837
>>17990824

Sorry I should've clarified, the one on the very right was only ¥45K
From the top of my head that's around 280$
Even less for foreigners because we get it 10% off

>>17990840
41K**
So for us ¥35K
230$

Is that considered a good price?

>>17990837
>Wait, the "penis" seikos are those twin quartz ones?
Both the single and twin ones.

I'm really really happy about my new watch, it's quality is superb and comfortable.

>>17990839
Maybe some of the smaller Pro-Treks? Those are equally tough as a G-Shock.

New thread when!?

>>17990845
How big is it?

>>17990839
Does it have to have a plastic band? There are Casio Edifices you can get that look like normal analog watches.

>>17990853
no, just want something durable I can bump around without having to worry

>>17990853

>>17990850
44mm but I have big wrists (I forgot about that detail), it's not heavy for me at least.

>>17990854
Yeah, get an Edifice. less than 150 bucks.
EFR-S108. Bulletproof.

>>17988975
New

>>17990863
>>17990863
>>17990863

>>17990862
Isn't there another similar one that has normal lugs?

>>17990862
thanks, that looks really nice

>>17990737
we bought the building our firm is in, gonna be 3.2 mil but had to write a cheque for 50K today. Prob put down a mil and mortgage the difference. Acre of land and a 10K square foot building in a city, good signage to a busy street. Will use it as leverage to buy more buildings, maybe my kid will be able to get a rolex.

>>17989766
Vintage is good. I'm thinking bout another vintage seamaster but I can't remember which one to look out for. I thought I took a screenshot of a thread here but I can't find it

I'm a heavy diesel mechanic. What's a nice stainless steel (inc. bracelet) automatic watch I could beat the shit out of at work and at home and just wear to death? The dream is a nice plain Explorer one day but I'm not knowledgeable and would love to hear other options in that range or cheaper.