/fa/ - Fashion

>>17982840
Does the waist of (one-wash) IH jeans stretch after first wash. I have a pair kinda tight expecting it to stretch because that's what I was told and they never did. Haven't washed yet though, and haven't worn too much because middle of summer in Aus

>>17982840
texture>high contrast fades

>>17982840
I'm a Pure Blue Japan and Momotaro guy personally

none of you broke faggots own any of this shit.

>>17982935
Yeah, they should. Despite Iron Heart having tight weaves, their denim is surprisingly stretchy (with the exception of their 25 oz). The majority of their denim is sanforized and you should expect little to no shrinkage assuming that you are doing cold wash, hang dry, and not putting it in the dryer. I have 4 pairs of their jeans and despite there being a tiny amount of shrinkage with each wash, the jeans always stretch back out once I wear them around for the first day. You can always just do some body weight squats in them once theyre done hang drying if you want to speed up the stretching

>>17983002
Cheers! You've given me hope lol. No turning back now.

Wearing through my 25 oz 888 jeans this last year. These are finally starting to drape and soften to my liking, but my god it has taken a long time. I would definitely not recommend going this heavy, the 21 oz is perfect in comparison

>>17982966
momotaro chads rise up

>$400 jeans
>2011 + 13
Are you boomers also still rocking hitler youths and buddy holly glasses? Aren't you embarrassed?

>>17983828
Sorry that you’re poor. You do realize that you don’t need to resort to full workwear or 2010 era fits when incorporating a pair of selvedge, right?

>nothing but production stills
just like I thought, no one here own this shit.
jannies need to ban larp threads.

>>17983828
hey that's sick try to sell me on more mass market bullshit so i can follow the latest new zoomer tik tok trend of... copying how i dressed when i was 13

>>17983831 (You)

Wanna get on the IH hype train but their jean cuts don't work for me. Currently waiting for a restock of their 19oz OD type 3. There's a 14oz available but I wasn't impressed by their lighter denim when I handled it at a stocklist

>>17983937
youre not going to buy anything, larpfag

>>17983937
Have you tried all of their cuts? Also, I own their 22 oz overdyed type 3. The aging on the overdyed denim is really beautiful

imagine spending 400 bucks on jeans
i'll stick with my bravestar and hiroshi kato thanks

>>17983971
Bravestar look fucking gay. When you buy IH, you’re buying a perfected design and aesthetic. Its like the equivalent of buying an actual Gibson Custom Shop instead of some standard production line Epiphone

>>17983981
>doesn't own a Gibson or an Epiphone
>doesn't own IH jeans

>>17983962
Based on posted measurements, the 888 and 1955 are the only cuts that'd work for me. I tried the 888 and it was a letdown. On paper they should have worked but the leg was restrictive and tight while the seat and waist were too loose. And the back pocket placement was egregiously bad. Fortunately I managed to re-sell them and recoup most of what I payed. The 1955 look promising, but they've been out of stock for a minute.
And yeah, the way the OD ages is what's drawing me to an IH type 3 over their competitors

>>17983993
I know what you mean. Fortunately my thighs are perfectly sized to fit into their 888, but they’re definitely more slim than you would expect for a straight leg jean. If you can manage to fit into a mid rise jean, I would actually suggest the Samurai s510xx. Based on my experience The thighs have a tiny more room than IH, my pair is actually the best fitting jeans I own. If you need a high rise, maybe the sugar cane 1947 jeans would be best. I’m pretty sure that Self Edge just restocked them

>>17982840
have their Kersey work shirt, the material is so nice

>>17983981
>Bravestar look fucking gay.
no u
also kek this is autism incarnate
bet you look killer in front of your full body mirror m8

>>17984012
I just got their prairie gold type 2 jacket, it's great, the cut is perfect on my frame and the material/color is so unique.

>>17984012
Yeah, look way better than someone trying to larp as a cowboy lmao

>>17984024
>trying to larp as a cowboy
larping as a pnw logger actually

>>17984029
Okay, speaking as a Washington resident I’ll give you that

>>17984003
Ngl lately the only jeans I've been wearing have been Wranglers. I have about a grand of selvedge (including SC1947s which do fit pretty good) just sitting there cause nothing else feels as comfortable or makes my ass look as good as 13MWZs.
>>17983971
Imagine being offended by how other people spend their money

>>17982985

I own two UHFs and a type 3 cordoroy jacket

>>17983971
I had a jacket from Bravestar when I first started getting into selvedge. It just wasn't the same. The fit was off, shoulders too wide, too boxy, etc. And the worst part is the buttons weren't lined up so the jacket wouldn't button up. I had to remove the button and replace it with one I got from the store that didn't match
it's the little stuff like that. how the FUCK does misaligned buttons pass QC?
by Pure Blue Japan jacket is 400 (but I got it for way less on a black friday sale, shit was so cash) and it is absolutely flawless. you can just feel it and tell it's better made

>>17984035
My 13mwz’s were $30 and fit better than my iron heart 777’s. I wish more jeans had a 12 - 13 inch front rise.

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>>17982985

>me explaining for over 2 hours what wabash is to some stranger that complimented my wabash shirt

>>17984840
What the fuck is wabash

>>17985267
it's a river in indiana you dumb shit zoomer

>>17985267
this>>17984677

>>17983993
sometimes a brand's cuts just work for you or don't. fit is everything with denim especially pants. the best investment you can possibly make in raw denim is find an excuse to travel to japan or one of the north america retailers like selfedge/blueowl/etc and try shit on. if you're ever vaguely in proximity of one of those stores its worth the detour to instantly know what brands do and don't work for you, they're all the type of stores that won't bat an eye at someone wanting to try shit on for 4 hours then buy 0-1 pairs. they want you to take your time and get a perfect fit they're all nerds. theres some denim brands that for me will always be something i wank to pics of online or keep in my rolodex of recommendations because i know they don't look great on me and some brands i'll always have in rotation simply because their cuts fit me like a glove.

>>17984566
its because fit is everything. its far from the ONLY factor, but its the BIGGEST factor in aesthetic, comfort, and long term durability.
if 13mwz works better for your body it doesn't matter if the iron hearts are made of 5,000x nicer fabric and constructed much better. its just a better cut for you.

>>17983986
Ahem…

>>17983981
>Bravestar look fucking gay.
I recently copped a pair of brave stars and the fit amazingly.

>>17985562
>navy black ombre
>wabash
are you literally me

>>17985267
Picrel. A denim-like fabric usually in blue with lighter or white vertical stripes. Supposedly the train engineers andcrailroad workers used to wear this stuff in the late 19th to early 20th centuries

>>17985582
I prefer IH's darker tones. Their navy blue, indigo, and overdyed black fabrics are beautiful

>>17985591
agreed, wish they would release more UHF in darker subdued colours instead

>>17986976
Nice creases. I’ve been using my wabash shirt for work for the last year during the winter months and I have to say that it is seriously the slowest fading denim I’ve ever worn. My fucking 25 oz 888 jeans fade faster

iron heart x filson x wesco

>>17982966
based except I recently picked up a pair of Samurais for the slub and Iron Hearts for the 21oz

>>17983866
based consoomer

>>17983962
that's a handsome jacket might get an overdyed on to compliment my regular dyed version

paying this much to look like you don't know to dress yourself is a weird flex.
work wear is supposed to be cheap and forgettable, emphasis on cheap.

just wear vintage wrangler and woolrich/eddie bauer/ll bean, literally the same thing.

>>17988089
>Sour grapes

>>17988216
it's jeans and flannel.
I can pay 400 dollars for a sandwich, good luck selling me one though.
it's the pretense at being working class that irks me.

>>17988237
Why does it bother you how other people spend their money

>>17988237
>it's the pretense at being working class that irks me.
Are you the guy that gets mad at people who drive race cars even though they're not race car drivers

Or people who wear combat boots but never been in combat

>>17988268
not an argument.

>>17988089
You're retarded. People aren't buying high end denim or workwear because they want to look cheap. They buy it because they have an appreciation for the higher attention to detail with regards to build quality, QC, and denim texture and aging characteristics. People ultimately prefer something that is made objectively better and ages better. It just so happens to cost more because there is more hand labor and nuanced skill that goes into making stuff like this compared to a mass produced pair of wranglers or levis. No disrespect to wrangler, but you really are just making shit up in your head. If you don't want to buy this shit, thats completely fine

>>17988521
lol
lmao

>>17988523
>"$350 for jeans?!?!? Pfffttt!!!!"

>>17988526
hiroshi kato >>>> iron heart or whatever overpriced hipster trash you buy
also i'm white collar bitch put some respect on my salary i worked all of 1800 hours last year

>>17988537
Nigger you can't even compare those two companies. Iron heart focuses almost exclusively on heavy weight, robust denim, whereas Hiroshi Kato is lightweight denim. The fabrics look completely different and they are both entirely different universes of aging characteristics. Lightweight denim is not my thing

>>17983981
This is ironic considering that recently Gibson has been known for their incredibly shit production quality

>>17985562
Imagine the stench

>>17983986
>doesn't own a Gibson or an Epiphone
>Gibson or an Epiphone
>or Epiphone
oh no no no

I've been loving this IH parka this winter

>>17988738
goes well with the pink hairclip

>>17988738
nigga
man to man
i'm gonna keep it 100% real wit u
i lowkey like it

>>17988064
I don't really wear selvedge anymore, I just get Levis when they're on sale now
but i would probably get some samurais on a good sale

>>17988089
to be fair even if you use official inflation figures (lol) 300 bux for a pair of jeans is pretty in line with what people used to pay pre war.

>>17988853
Not just that, but a pair of Samurais, Iron Hearts, or Momotaros are arguably made even better than jeans during those times

>>17988540
lightweight denim can actually age really beautifully... if you wear them skin tight.
i use the 8.5oz n&fs as long johns to make my jeans a bit warmer in the winter.

>>17988859
back then it was all like 6-12oz fabrics too.
1.5x the cost for fabrics twice the thickness that would have been considered a technological marvel back then is pretty fair all things considered i think you get a really good value in japanese denim. just not the poorfag kind of scarcity mentality value. if you want the best shit for your dollar you wont beat jap denim except for jap denim imported then sewn in north america and thats only because of really unfair trade agreements we have with the japanese garment industry.

>>17988862
We are not the same. I only wear classic straight and straight tapered cuts. Also, arguing that Iron Heart is overpriced while paying $230+ for a pair of 12.5 oz denim that looks like a pair of H&M jeans is quite ironic

Bump

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>>17988868
HELLO BELOVED!!!

>>17990655
https://youtu.be/vSbmmEqiA3w?si=eH1dR2t0azas5WAP

>>17990657
based is that the CPO?

For years I've purchased Iron heart products from the Global Rakuten website. They have now banned Japanese Retailers from selling online or overseas. Before, you were able to pay the prices that were PRINTED on the actual tags. Now the only way to buy their products outside of Japanese Retail is to pay the completely jacked prices set by the Iron heart UK people. I understand Engineered Garments and other high end brands restricting selling online and sales, but Iron Heart still allows sales online. Am I missing something or is this just another middleman getting his payday? Don't get me wrong, Iron Heart UK has great customer service, but is it worth paying almost double the price for it?
This is from one of the retailers emails a few weeks ago.
"IRON HEART'S SALE ENDS According to the policy of IRON HEART, IRON HEART's products will be impossible to sell on the website from April 2017. From April 2017, If you have something you would like to purchase with IRON HEART's items, please send an e-mail to us. We do apologize for this inconvenience. I hope you will understand."

>>17983866
Rekt.

>>17990657
Based and skinnyfat 35yo pilled

>>17990655
I met this guy randomly at Self Edge in Portland. He walked in with his wife and we chatted for like 20 minutes. Real genuine guy

>>17990675
I like that he has gone unhinged since covid and getting fired and now posts things like improvised foot spikes coated in his poo and anti israel videos all the time

>>17990667
Its the 12oz wabash chore jacket

>>17990674
32 but yes lol im skinny all over except this belly that i cannot seem to get rid of

>>17990659
Do you guys store your jeans hung or folded?

>>17990678
you mean a completely normal and measured response to clown society

>>17990687
S hook. I only have one pair of jeans, don't need more than than

>>17990688
Yes. Unfortunately it's already over. The boomers and great generation sold us out for social security paychecks in 1965 when the jews passed the white replacement act and actively sought to sew disunity for the sake of a cushy retirement built on slave labor for themselves. Then when we went off the gold standard shit really went fucking south with 40 years of nearly 0% interest rates leading to $243,000 being the average cost of a 1500sqft starter home in the US while the median income is $40,000. In 1933 when FDR stole every americans gold you could have gad $200 in $2.50 liberty gold coins. This would be worth $24,000 today. The cpi number for inflation from 1933 to now is that $200 is equal to about $5000. What a crock of shit. The real inflation since then according to gold is 12,000% and their bullshit number is 2,500%. Not even to mention the $14,000,000,000,000 they printed over a literal cold and handed out as corporate welfare. I hate the antichrist.

>>17990678
He’s based. “Simps and modern whores will be accounted by historians as the reason for the downfall of western civilization”. His iconic quote lol

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>>17990682
Cool dude, cute dog 10/10 would grab a couple beers with

How much do the 21oz OD stretch with wear and are they pliable? Like if the thigh is <0.5" less then ideal, but the next size up would be 1.5" too big in the waist, can I pry at it to loosen it up a bit or are they the kind of super tight weave that doesn't give at all?

>>17990905
They are surprisingly stretchy from my experience wearing in a pair of 21 oz OD 888, and a regular indigo pair of 21 oz 888. That being said, if you have large thighs, iron heart’s straight leg thigh dimensions aren’t really that big and they unfortunately don’t have a wide/relaxed straight fit. If you have large thighs, I wouldn’t suggest getting a pair of jeans that are going to be stretching the thighs, especially if the waist dimension is already going to be way too big on you. I love IH, but I really don’t understand why they can’t just make some cuts with thighs that are like 0.5” larger than what they’re currently doing

>>17985562
That is a very nice looking ES-335

>>17988738
I unironically really like that parka. Is that blanket lined too? Jesus fucking christ, I gotta get one of those. I didn't even know they made such a thing.

>>17985562
keep on dadrockin' fren

>>17990948
I don't really understand the point of hollowbodies that aren't true archtops with a floating bridge but that's perfectly okay

>>17991039
Semihollow bodies are a great balanced sound. Want a warm, airy, woody jazz tone? Switch to the neck pickup. Want searing, saturated leads? Switch to the bridge pickup and lay down some overdrive. The humbuckers really give a great saturated overdrive tone. Overall, an es-335 is one of the most versatile guitars you can play

>>17991050
Anon you don't believe in tonewood in an electric guitar do you? The sound all comes from the pickups, scale length, and bridge. A true archtop sounds very different from a tune-o-matic and sounds good unplugged. I regret the fuck out of not buying one of those epiphone archtops they had for a good price like 3 years ago.

>>17990930
Well I already put in the hemming request so yolo. Based on how they measure, the thighs on the pair they pulled are only 0.2in smaller than my broken in cowboy cuts so I'm hoping with a bit of leverage I can squeeze a few more fractions of an inch out of them

I'm also switching to much lower volume on lower body because pants shopping is a nightmare

I don't know how people wear this stuff. I tried one a few pairs at a shop and afterward putting my chinos back on felt so good it was wearing silk.

>>17990793
I appreciate it!

>>17991142
Well first all your leg hairs rub off and then your skin oil coats the inside and makes it more slick

>>17991113
That’s all good, but in reality I’m playing jazz fusion, blues, mathrock, prog, and emo. Tone wood does not have (if any) much effect on a guitar’s sound. An es-335 ticks all the boxes I’m looking for. Archtops sound great, but they are one trick ponies and are good only for jazz and maybe some country. You aren’t going to get good fretboard radius and controllable saturated overdrive tones with an arch top. My next purchase will be either a custom shop telecaster, or a Castedosa with jazzmaster pickups

>>17991224
I just have a jazzmaster, a strat, and a el-00 parlour. I never even play electric anymore and would like an archtop to play more old school fingerstyle singers and standards like itso. He usually plays on an archtop or classical. That's why I said it's a fine style choice just not for me. If I wanted some f holes I would want to go all the way into the pool and just play jazz and singer standard arrangements on it.

>>17991247
I like this guy. His travis picking and fingerstyle in general are great and he has plenty of swing standards and ragtime on there. Old progressions and voice leading are amazing. Tweedle deeing over a 4 chords without as well composed a melody may be one of the worst things rock did to popular music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKCSLw1K_BM

>>17990953
Yeah it is , they have some sizes left in the outlet part of their website. Decent price for it. Its so worth it

>>17988521
The point being Wrangler are a working mans jeans

>>17991876
And what? You can't work in IH?

>>17992238
no one works in 400 dollar jeans.
youre not squatting and kneeling and painting in these jeans.
you're not tracking elk, you're not cattle rustling.
you're this guy >>17990657
you're all this egg-shaped guy.

>>17992279
you're such a butthurt poorfag. Why are you trying to gatekeep things you can't afford?

>>17992340
you're just some softskin with working class pretensions, it's pathetic.
a bespoke dress shirt at least has an air of sophistication and original thought put into it, but paying so much to dress down will never not be fucking silly.

>>17992441
You have no idea what you're talking about and are a filthy poor. Pick up some more walmart shifts and maybe one day you can enjoy some quality clothing as well

>>17992279
speak for yourself m8 ive painted houses in evisu, momotaro, etc

>>17992279
these aren't dirty weft they're stained from digging trenches and laying concrete

mostly landscaping/roofing fades on these bad boys

>>17991876
wrangler can't be beat on value
especially now that carhartt is becoming meme

Anybody have experience with Iron Heart's 19 oz left hand? I have their 22 oz overdyed type III and as much as I love it, its way too thick and rigid even after 2 years of consistent wear. I'm wondering if the 19 oz will be better, or if it will still be rigid as fuck because of its tighter weave

>>17992491
Why does this look like a pair of doll's pants sitting in the hand of a giant?

>>17990713
Based and tellin' it like it is pilled

>>17982840
why the fuck did they make the type 3 so long? Holy shit the leather is so stiff that you can't even button it. I think I'm just gonna get a custom aero

>>17983831
>2010 era fits
I don't need to, but can I?

>>17993908
yes, 2010 is retro now

Just got a 14 oz type III. Pretty stoked to get that soft drape

>>17983866
kek

bump

>>17994264
Document the journey

>>17994264
i have a love hate relationship with handwarmer pockets on type 3's (love having them but love how it looks without them) but this pulls it off

>>17993928
14 years ago

>>17996312
In 6 years it'll officially be vintage

>>17996272
I can't wear any kind of jacket without side pockets. I do agree that they kinda fuck the aesthetics of type 3s, nevertheless. The solution, and I don't know why it's not the default option, is to hide the handwarmer pockets in the front seams.

I want this but it costs what a 4090 costs

>>17996330
This is the coolest one on their site

>>17996592
Yeah, it's cool but that deviates a lot from the design to be considered a type 3.

>>17996608
But that's why it isn't boring.

>>17996618
But the discussion about handwarmer pockets was in the context of type 3 jackets

>>17996623
Type 3 a poopoo

>>17996272
My first IH type III was a traditional one without the handwarmer pockets. I highly prefer the modified jackets with the pockets. You not only have pockets, but the body is just an extra inch in length which in my opinion is better since it covers most of the bottom of the flannel or hoodie if you decide to wear layering underneath. A traditional type III is just too short for my taste, I hate it when the bottom of my flannels end up hanging too low below the jacket’s waist.

>>17996874
Total opposite here. I hate IH type 3s for how long they are. Totally ruins the proportions of an outfit when what should be a cropped jacket is hanging down over your ass

>>17996958
This model is 5'8 and wears a size extra-large

>>17996981
5'10. Medium or large depending on the size chart. But I like that 60s/70s look with high rise jeans and a jacket that ends at the belt line

>>17996202
Just the right fit for layering underneath

>>17997324
>double denim
gonna have to say based

>>17997324
>vans

>>17997343
This
>>17997448
But also this

>>17997448
>>17997738
Can someone please explain all the hate toward vans old skoolz? They seem to me to be just as versatile as chuck taylors

>>17997324
>poorfag in Vans
like pottery

>>17998304
we don't wear converse all stars either. I'm so fucking sick of seeing vans though. It's been like 15 years nonstop of these shitty fucking shoes

>>17998304
>They seem to me to be just as versatile as chuck taylor

Yes. Which is not at all.

>>17998313
>>17998319
Okay that’s not really providing any insight though. There’s a reason why vans and converse have been around for many decades. They’re synonymous with American casual fashion, they are destined to be paired with denim. All you guys are really saying is:
>they suck because they suck
Okay, why though? I’ve actually only ever been complemented on my choice of vans and converse, so it seems pretty obvious that all the hate is fabricated on this board and this board only

>>17998371
they both latched on to the tranny trend to sell sneakers, fuck em

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>>17998379
>>17998380
Yeah, I get that you don’t want to support a company that promotes degeneracy. However, what specifically is bad or unfashionable about a standard black and white pair of converse or vans old skoolz? Im not even going to deny that they are made like shit, but purely in terms of fashion, what is all the hate about?

>>17998371
like everything current 4chan hates, they've fallen on the other side of the culture war.
has nothing to do with the actual product, only the politics.

>>17998387
you can't divorce fashion from culture.
they're vocally unfashionable here because its fashionable to be vocally anti-trans on 4chan.
it doesn't mean no one here wears them, only that there will be chuds shitting on them.

>>17998390
Okay that’s kind of what I’ve been realizing, it’s about nothing more than politic. That’s all fine, I understand why people wouldn’t want to support companies that promote that shit, but we aren’t talking about why the specific company sucks. We are talking about the shoes themselves. Even speaking as a leather boot collector, I really like the timeless aesthetic that vans and converse have. I’ll probably end up getting a pair of converse inspired shoes from a Japanese company that doesn’t fuck around with the LGBTQ bullshit. Moonstar or Shoes Like Pottery for example

>>17997324
Nice fit, I like it. Also vans and chucks work perfectly with denim. I don't care about a brands "politics" because their real politics are making money. They might be currently supporting whatever they think will net them points with consumer, but as soon as the trends change they'll change their tune.
Brands that had existed for long enough released ads decades ago that would get them cancelled these days. But that's what was popular at the time.

>>17998371
I mean functionally they are absolute shit. They are flat soled, poorly constructed, heel bruisers. And they're ugly.

>>17998390
vans fall apart fast and look childish.
>>17998400
i can get better sneakers without my money going to supporting child sex grooming.

>>17998371
>uncomfortable, no arch support
>going with heavy denim in the uppers and legs and then thin canvas for feet? not coherent at all

>>17998453
This as well. They feel like shit on your feet. I haven't owned vans since I was 12.

>>17998453
canvas and denim are literally both woven cotton workcloth, faggot.
not coherent?
if you ignore the last 80 years of casual American fashion lol

what a reach.

both woven but different weaves retard

>>17998304
>>17998371
nothing wrong with canvas sneakers.
but why chucks? they're glued together with a fake vulc sole and your money goes to nike.
i'd rather spend twice as much and get
- way better canvas
- actual vulcanized sole not a fake glued one
- not made with child slave labor
- my money goes to some japanese dorks not to a soulless megacorp hiring negro models and grooming school kids with faggotry

>>17998463
Vans are literally knockoff keds. Keds invented the shitty canvas sneaker in like 1920, like 50 years after jeans were invented. And they were made/marketed as a sports shoe not a workwear. Vans were a knockoff of keds and became popular because poorfag skateboarders who couldn't afford keds wore them. They have fucking nothing to do with jeans or workwear.

>>17998472
I was considering either going with some Shoes Like Pottery, or those new Moonstar high tops that just dropped. I love the look of Chucks, but yeah you’re right, the construction of their soles is quite laughable. Better to get an actual volcanized sole and durable canvas uppers

>>17998474
invented at different times but plimsoll sneakers and jeans both found their way out of their niche use cases and became general fashion items in the 1950s after world war 2. you see a lot of photos of jeans with keds in the 50s but its mostly women and teenagers you see pictured in them. partly because denim's fist foray outside of workwear was biker attire and bikers wear boots.

>>17998474
they're not paired with anything else but jeans and cotton shorts, the fuck are you even shitting out of your stupid mouth?

don't even fucking respond.

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>>17998479
fun fact after world war 2 people started realizing normal ass pairs of plimsoll sneakers like keds were better for extreme mountain climbing than the old school hobnail boots everyone was using pre war and all the mountaineering records shot up by like 30% altitude immediately.

>>17998477
the ones i posted earlier too (doek) are great if you want something that looks like vans but with an immense quality jump.

>>17998480
>paired with
Anon I would rather wear these hemp toe shoes than a pair of vans. And in fact, I have worn through one pair and have a second one. Because at least they have a stated purpose for existing. Vans have no reason to exist. They do what many other brands of shoe do only more poorly. They are shitty. They are boring. They have no reason to exist. They should not exist.

>>17998501
>I said something fucking retarded and now I have no choice but to double down, here I go!

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>>17998501
/fa/ chudlets can't cope. bunch of brain damaged righty fatfucks who are mad because they're irrelevant on the world stage and nobody likes them outside of these incel infested boards. cope and seethe.

>>17998511
Not an argument. Vans are shit and ruin any outfit they are in.

>>17998515
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>>17998515
nobody thins you're a woman despite you removing your penis surgically, but the doctors enjoyed the money they made from you

>>17998535
They're simple sneakers. Simple sneakers that one of you autists can pull off lmao. And keds look like shit compared to vans. They're like a worse version of converse that somehow figured out a way to be even more uncomfortable.

>>17998550
Why would you wear npc shoes?

>>17998515
>Everyone else is wrong about my embarassing shoes

#VanLife

Back on topic fuckers.

21oz OD 888s just arrived. I've tried 888s before (14oz OD and 21oz non-fade black) and been underwhelmed. The cut wasn't my favorite and the fabric felt unnecessary restrictive right out of the box in both cases. But everyone online said to try the 21oz OD or 21oz indigo to get what all the hype was about. "feel like sweatpants" and all that shit. Being a Wrangler Chad I understand the difference a good weave makes so when I saw the 888s restocked I grabbed a pair.

And I don't hate them. They were skin tight in the thigh when I put them on but have already loosened as I'm typing this out and have some nice natural give. I still hate the back pockets, but Wrangler has ruined me there so it's to be expected

>>17998550
Simple sneakers for a simpleton

>>17997324
Why would you spend so much on your jeans and jacket and barely anything on shoes? This is like wearing a tailored suit with sketchers

>>17998556
What kind of shoes do you wear with your jeans?
And DON'T be wrong

>>17998560

>>17998558
he was a skaterboy she said see you later boy

>>17998561
hell yeah cowboy boots

>>17998561
Opinion discarded

>>17998558
not that anon
have you ever heard of beaters before?

>>17998567
I thought they were called 'gooners' now

>>17998567
Beaters are your old pair of shoes that you don't take care of anymore. This implies you have yet another pair of vans that are new.

>>17998554
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>>17998570
>f-f-fucking npc shoes!

>>17998561
a closet filled to the brim with cringe

>>17998575
Careful man, your jeans might withstand the stress of you shaking but not your cheap shitty shoes

>>17998569

>>17998575
Post some npc shoe fits! Let's get inspired!

>>17998580
Keep it going for vans yall!

>>17998585
f%#k yeah!

>>17998580
good idea, let's save this thread

>>17998589
Loose fits work too!!

>>17998589
What's crazy is that it's all actually different people in these pictures

ChEcKeRs PaTtErN!!!! WhoaH!!!

>>17998591
That's because you can stand out by fitting in with the other kids in high school!

>>17998561
>docs
not based
>yeehaws and hansewns
based
>engies, gats, SD
double based
>barbour, houndstooth
irrefutably based
started weak but recovered, well done

>>17998594
And you can stand like you're waiting in an elevator anywhere you want

>>17998558
Same anon here. I have a collection of higher end leather boots (John Lofgren, Whites, Role Club engineers) but sometimes there are fits that just look good with sneakers. I’m not arguing that vans or converse are objectively good shoes, but to me they feel good to wear sometimes and despite what your own personal taste may be, the majority of people in the world agree that a pair of vans old skoolz pair very well with jeans

>>17998577
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>>17998592
>>17998594
>M-Mom, come and look, I posted the pictures! Wheeze....cough...and bring me my tendies!!

>>17998596
This guy can afford two iphones and a pair of vans!!! goals!!

>>17998597
>the majority of people in the world agree

>>17998598
>me being sad (not because you made fun of my vans) while wearing my vans

>>17998601
This you? Damn, you’re such a brave freethinker

vans? check
dickies? check
brown? check

it's los angeles time

>>17998597
>the majority of people in the world agree

Sounded reasonable until this

>>17998601
>>17998605
Anon should have known that he’s talking to a forum of insufferable fags with antisocial personality disorders

>>17998603

>>17998611
Lol, what is your point? Saying, “majority of people” is not black and white. It’s just saying that it’s the majority of people

>>17998607
Your narcissism is insane. You literally cannot comprehend affability and a strong sense of identity coexisting.

>>17998600
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>>17998611
Terminally online incel is mad because his special Nippon 1000 folded jeans don't get him as much pussy as the kid in vans and streetwear.

>>17998618
calm down bro

>>17998615
You probably have BPD or something if you are this incapable of living without public opinion.

>>17998617
Wow, thanks Freud. That was so enlightening. I bet you get massive amounts of pussy while flexing your gay little reverse psychology comebacks

>>17998618
It's chill man let's just get back to enjoying vans

>>17998620
>>17998627
>he says, foaming at the mouth while saving stock photos

>>17998626
>I bet you get massive amounts of pussy while flexing your gay little reverse psychology comebacks

Only if I'm wearing my vans

>>17998632
Dude post some vans outfits or quiet down. We need inspo

>>17998639
Your seething is pretty inspiring, chud

>>17998595
Those docs are almost 10 years old at this point. They're aren't 80s/90s DM durable, but they're leagues better than the current shit they produce and have held up to a lot of abuse

>>17998642

It's been a long while since I have seen this sense of community on /fa/, hatred bands us together. shitty fashion sense is like the King Arthur of this board. This vanchild: our martyr, our saint.

Alright /fa/gs, I know I struck a tender spot with my vans, but what are your thoughts on wearing horsehide boots instead?

>>17998646
>(you) on your way to get dicked down

>>17998650
would look better with tall/combat boots. not a fan of short boots. the vans were unironically better.

>>17998650
You ever read that Borges short story about the heresiarch that claimed Judas was in fact the most loyal and crucial of Jesus's diciples and might have in fact been God himself?

That's you man. You're Judas.

>>17998657
Lol I feel like these would scream that even more

>>17992514
I have the 19LHT and it is extremely stiff. It feels almost as stiff as my 25oz jeans, I guess from the tightness of the weave.

Love it for it though. It feels like wearing armor.

>>17998556
The 21 oz 888 overdyed jeans were my first pair of IH I bought 2 years ago. The denim is very sexy, you get that beautiful indigo-gray color when it fades in. I know what you mean about the tightness in the thigh though. IH’s straight fit is certainly slightly slim in the thigh, but if you’re coming from wranglers then that shouldn’t be too much of a difference. Their 21 oz is personally my all time favorite denim I’ve ever worn. It has that beautiful clean weave texture, and it softens up very nicely while being heavy at the same time

>>17998680
I was looking at the 634 as well, but 888 won out for having more room in the hips and seat along with a higher rise.

I'm interested to try the 1955 straight if it ever restocks tho

>>17998688
I had a pair of the 634. The thighs with the 888 are slightly tight for me too (not skin tight, about an inch or so of give), but the silhouette of the 634 just isn’t as good. Since the thighs between both jeans are around the same size, the 634 looks a little more feminine if your thighs are big, whereas the 888 silhouette looks a little more athletic. I would also love to get a pair of 1955, but for some reason they are not releasing them for a long time. I really don’t understand why IH doesn’t just make a fucking wide/relaxed straight leg jean instead of just capping it out at the “classic straight” 1960s Levi’s inspired cut

I know Iron Heart UHFs size REALLY small, are their jeans the same? I'm a size 33-34 in Levis 511s, which are pretty much the only jeans I've worn for the last 5-8 years

>>17998806
In my experience wearing the IH straight fits, their jeans usually run about 1 size small compared to Levi’s. In Levi’s and Wranglers I’m a 33, but I need to go up to a 34 in IH. I would suggest measuring the waist of your best fitting jeans and comparing it to the size charts on the IH website. Your IH jeans will stretch about an inch with wear, but I certainly wouldn’t order jeans that are more than 0.5 inches too small in the waist. If you have more specific questions about fit, you should definitely call one of the Self Edge stores to ask about what size they would recommend for a pair of Iron Heart 777 if you’re coming from the Levi’s 511. They’ll give you a rundown on whether the Iron Hearts you’re interested in will differ in any other dimension compared to the 511s.

>>17998812
levi's uses vanity sizing so literally anything isn't going to measure the same as it except other pants that happen to use the same exact amount of vanity sizing.
but ya you got it, measure = king.

>>17998696
1. It's a western only release
2. It sells poorly due to the prevalence of slim fits
3. There are currently plans to restock it
4. All of this information is publicly available on the Iron Heart forum
5. It's time to stop posting

>>17998696
there's approx 100% chance i would have bought a pair of jeans from iron heart by now if they did more relaxed/straight. i'm a very skinny guy but when i think iron heart i think heavy rugged denim and when i think heavy rugged denim i'm not thinking about adding slim/skinny cut #342923498 to my collection. i prefer my skinny jeans to be like 17oz max.

>>17998856
Sounds like you browse the IH forum daily

>>17998858
I mean, it’s not like their straight cuts are slim fit. The thigh dimension for a size 34 on their 888 is like 13.3”, but they could definitely add another 0.3” to their thighs. It’s not really a dealbreaker for me though. The 888 is still such a great silhouette and imo they are the best looking straight cuts to pair with some engineers boots

>>17998866
>IH-888
Those are women's jeans, anon

>>17998948
thats what makes them so erotic

>>17998556
>>17998561
I spend too much time on this board. I recognize that guy. Or maybe there's like a dozen posters here tops.

>>17988738

More parka

>>17988738
>>17999037
jfc you cannot be serious

>>17999037
tcb 20's?
>>17998948
you have no idea how many harlots have tried to steal my 0105SP's

>>17998858
If you're very skinny then 634 or 888 might be a regular or loose fit on your body. Where the slimness becomes a problem is when you lift and have bigger thighs with a smaller waist. 13" thighs aren't that big on a waist that measures 33". And you also have to take into account hamstring thickness which tends to make the mid and low thigh too tight on tapered cuts.
>>17998966
Yes it's me and yes there are probably a dozen regular at this point

>>17999039
Im serious

>>17999050
They're 634s

Am I late?

>>17998651
>when you try to dress like you do motorcycle shit but dont have enough muscle to keep a 500cc upright

>>17999037
A bit goofy looking in the face but not much you can do about it, other than pulling your glasses up before taking pics. Oarka looks a tad too big, but no big deal on parkas anyway. The rest of the fit is OK, as in decent but nothing really special, which is not a bad thing in itself.
I wouldn't wear duck boots unless it was snowing or at least heavy rain, but that's just me.

I am going to order some Iron Hearts soon, but I am going to have them hemmed right away by IH because I fucking hate the cuffed look

>>17999491
I kept my entire family inseam length for a while before I recently got them hemmed at Self Edge. I kept an extra 1.5” so I can flip up a skinny cuff. Having a big ass cuff really is not that great. I think they can look pretty decent if you’re wearing a pair of sneakers or skate shoes, but after a while you realize you look like a clown especially if you’re wearing boots

Wearing some engineers and 25 oz, feelin’ like a real nigga

>>17999240
never seen iron heart jeans get that crazy of roping at the hem. noice.

>>17998558
I do this because I dont like boots or formal shoes, or sports shoes and every other sneaker I have tried is the same or worse quality as bangladesh converse. its sad.
I dont like the idea of paying a lot for something and its no different than changledesh slave labor.
This has not been my experience with nice jeans, jackets or shirts. Only with shoes.

>>18000211
Based engie appreciator

Picrel is the new 888s and yeehaws. I soaked and stretched the thighs a bit after taking this pic. Gonna wear them while squatting tomorrow to get some more stretch out of em and speed up break in

>>18000250
perfect fit.
front lunges, karate front/back stance & side lunges are also kino for getting tighter fitting upper blocks to break in.
you probably already know this but its good evergreen advice to post anyways: take it gradually and don't squat/lunge all the way to the floor for the first few weeks. even if the jeans will let you do it. you want the yarns to gradually stretch, not be overly strained and weaken = future crotch blowout. if you start out with a fit like this and spend about a month wanking around the house and working out in them you'll wind up with the best fitting pair of jeans you've ever had + no crotch blowouts down the road.

>>18000246
this + same.
>and every other sneaker I have tried is the same or worse quality as bangladesh converse
common projects/clones + gat repros actually have a very good cost to quality ratio and are normal sneakers. the problem is common projects are boring+autism and gats are 1 sneaker.
if you're big money balling check out hender scheme it sounds right up your alley. thats what i used to wear but i no longer have a lifestyle that affords me making poor financial decisions like wearing $1000 sneakers as beaters.

>>18000281
Oh shit, well it's too late for that advice. Luckily post wet stretch I got an extra inch out of the thigh, and the crotch sits high enough that I'm not getting any chafing or pulling when I walk so I should be good till the first wash

>>17999580
>tfw big cuff and boots wearer
I do not particulary like big cuffs but am not bothered by them either. I don't trust any taylor in my area to do a proper job on selvedge, so big cuff it is.

>>18000863
Selvedge doesn't make a difference when hemming jeans. The only thing that may be different is that most tailors can't replicate a chain stitched hem. If that doesn't matter to you, or if your jeans are lock stitched anyway, then just get them hemmed locally

bump

>>17982840
The groundhog said early spring this year! going to be busting out the 526pj earlier than expected!

How solid is the 14 oz denim for jeans? Is it really flimsy and lightweight?

>>18002744
It’s certainly feels more lightweight than 21 oz, but I wouldn’t call it flimsy. If you really want as much drape and softness as possible, 14 oz is good. I think it’s perfect for Type III jackets because you want to have that drape with your jacket. With jeans it’s better to go with the 21 oz in my opinion

>>17982966
for me it's momotaro

my momotaros are taking so long to fade...except for the crotch area. fucking annoying.

>>18003008
this probably took about 5 years of 24/7 wear, 1 wash, few soaks.

>>17998663
>>17999037
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>>18003000
real question what’s with the faggot fold?
it looks so outdated. let them get bunched up at the boots or get them hemmed.

>>18003162
>hem jeans to uncuffed length
>wash them
>inseam shrinks
>gg being able to wear them with anything except boots

>>18003162
>hem jeans to uncuffed length
>wash them
>inseam shrinks
>gg being able to wear them with anything except boots
yeah you can stack them but it looks even more dated than cuffing & looks like shit with everything but skinny cuts

>>18003319
baggy jeans are that are too long are literally in vogue rn
your solution only makes you look reddit
literally the worst alternative

>>18003408
I wore my jeans like that when I was 14, I don't need to do it again. I still have some old chinos with blown out hems from heel drag.

>>18003439
retarded argument

>>18003482
how is
>I dont want to dress like I'm still in high school in 2003
a retarded argument?

>>18003408
>wearing your jeans like a roodypoo
Lol

>>17982840
one day i'll get a pair of the indigo/black or indigo overdyed black pairs, but i've got too many pairs of other denim right now.

>>18003408
>literally in vogue

Fuck off NPC

>>18003488
because your alternative is wearing them like hipsters did in 2016
you’re essentially just showing your age and stagnated fashion sense

>>18003538
being trendy is not the same as having style zoomer

>>18003514
you dress like shit and everyone can tell
there are so many different styles of fashion that are “in” right now, probably more than ever before, and you still manage to go with one of the few that are absolutely dead in the water
tastelets truly unsavable
just

>>18003545
>there are so many different styles of fashion that are “in” right now

who cares lmao. You are such a people pleasing obsequious little faggot

>>18003545
>Thinking that he has taste when he cares about what is trendy

cringe

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>>18003556
just don’t understand how you can look at some double denim dork with rolled up jeans and dr martens and think anything else than faggot
to each their own I guess

>>18003561
I look at clown pants broccoli head and think the same thing.

Some jeans I cuff, some I don't. Some stack, some fall straight. Some are baggy, some are slim. Depends how I feel that day, and no faggy little zoomer has the balls to confront me about how I dress so I don't really care what they think.

>>18003580
yeah well broccoli head has been dead for over a year now so

>>18003590
>confront me about how I dress
why would anyone do that lmfao
this isn’t a 90s high school movie where you get bullied
people will just think you’re weird and you get filtered

>>18003592
like I said, why should I care what a bunch of sheltered kids with perms and JNCO's think of me?

>>18003597
you don’t have to
I think I just assumed people in this thread were younger than they are

>>18003162
>1. Raw Denim Get Shorter With Time
> Raw denim bunches behind the knees, drawing up the cuff and shortening the leg
> Raw denim also tends to shrink when they’re washed
>3. It Helps Keep Dye Off Your Shoes
> The inside of your jeans has less indigo to rub off
>4. The Ideal Inseam Changes Based on Your Footwear
> Your jeans fall differently if you’re wearing sneakers or boots
>This one’s short and sweet: if you’re wearing low-top sneakers or shoes, you probably want your cuff to end right at the bottom of your ankle.
>But when you’re wearing a good pair of boots, the way your cuff falls on your foot is going to change. You’ve got extra leather on your instep and running up your ankle that will cause your cuff to break in a different spot, folding (or “stacking”) instead of hanging.
its because the length of raw denim changes throughout its life. you have to cuff, stack, or live with them becoming high waters.
its pretty normal to cuff your jeans to fit a pair of boots then uncuff them to wear them with sneakers. what else are you going to do, blouse your boots into the jeans and larp as a soldier?
small cuff = no cuff after wash + all your sneakers don't turn blue

>>18003608
>I think I just assumed people in this thread were younger than they are
i bet my first pair of japanese denim is older than you lol.

>>18003408
>baggy jeans are that are too long are literally in vogue rn
lolno and clueless.
beyond the obvious
>you have to be over 18 to post here
>caring this much about tik tok
baggy jeans that are too long hasn't been in style for 20 years. the zoomer look is baggy but hemmed. they're not stacking their jeans and they're not dragging their hems on the ground like people were in the 2000s. why would i take fashion tips on dressing like a 14 year old from a guy who doesn't even know the look?

>your solution only makes you look reddit
>literally the worst alternative
reddit didn't even know about raw denim or have a denim board until 15+ years into the osaka 5 revival. its funny how they're now associated with a trend they were insanely late to.

>>18003545
your tik tok algorithm trends die faster than it takes to break in a pair of jeans.
i'm not an ipad baby or a woman, i don't care about tik tok.

>>18003545
>tastelet
>paying $600 for jncos
>not knowing they used to be $30 and associated with homeless juggalos
nah sorry bro already been through this trend cycle. i'll keep wearing my evisus.

>>18003592
>filtered
>by some random zoomer retard
Oh, no! How will that anon ever recover? The horror!

>>18003679
>>18003680
hems won’t scrape the ground unless the cut is crazy wide anyways
all your walls of text have good practical arguments im sure but it doesn’t change the fact that cuffing jeans looks ugly as fuck

>>18003709
like I said, didn’t account for this thread being a boomer containment zone

>>18003711
Do your fellow teenagers lose much sleep over someone else's jeans length?

>>18003717
no, I’d just think you’re out of touch

>>18003708
>hems won’t scrape the ground unless the cut is crazy wide anyways
in y2k the look was to have your pants so long the hem scrapes the ground and rips off in the back. the zoomer revival this time around is a bit different in both over-all composition (nobody was wearing mens cropped tops back then etc) and in how the pants fit. this time around its a much more deliberate and clean look. zoomers aren't dragging their pants 4" too long on the pavement like we did back then. zoomer women aren't throwing up all their food and wearing low rise everything either.
ive sold all my y2k era men's jeans already but here's an example of ~2002-2005 era women's jeans to show what i mean.

>>18003708
>all your walls of text have good practical arguments im sure but it doesn’t change the fact that cuffing jeans looks ugly as fuck
well yeah cuffing originates from practical reasons (farmers not wanting to hem their jeans & to make their jeans last longer) not reddit or fashion.
the act of doing it for fashion reasons is a nod to that. or you're just like me and work in your jeans lol.
>boomer containment zone
what do you expect you're in the iron shart thread. they make great stuff but they're the favored brand of the 30-40 year old fleece vested IT guy. personally iron heart's not my thing but i respect it, i wear straight leg higher waist 1950's and pre 1930's jeans with the wal mart crocs and a vintage adidas hoodie. you don't have to be denim dan or rodeo rick to like not shitty jeans. some people are born black, some people are born white, some people are born gay and i was born canadian.

ip switch nigged my jpeg

>>18003592
>you get filtered
Good, I don’t like taking to broccoli headed faggots

>>17983866
How will they ever recover?

>>18003408
Baggy jeans stacked to shit over your boots at best makes you look like an unstylish grandpa. The only type of hem that is acceptable is if you get them shortened with a permanent cuff like skinhead jeans.

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>>18003724
Lol zoomers.
Your entire generation of broccoli headed, mentally ill little faggots are a collective argument for late-term abortion.

>>18003957
ok south park whatever you say