/fa/ - Fashion

The Fragrance Groups 101 Chart

The Fragrance Flowchart for beginners

1. your sotd
2. amount of sprays

is there any reason to own both ADG (original or profondo) and Dylan Blue at the same time?

I was thinking DB for spring and cooler summer nights and ADG for the real heat

Just blind bought this for an intro oud scent. I have been burning japanese aloeswood sticks and love the smell, anything like that in perfume form?

>>17967159
>Nicolai Iris Medicis Intense
>2-3 sprays for going outside, 1 spray at home

Post worst notes

>>17967159
1. encre noire
2. 20
>>17967166
i wouldnt consider adg a blue frag. imo they are not that similar to make the other redundant

>>17967159
>Philosykos
>4 sprays
Smells good man

>>17967177
no worst notes, only GOAT

>>17967159
>Tauer Lonestar Memoir
>2 (left & right wrist)

>>17967181
I said worst not BEST

>>17967189
i said
>no worst notes

>>17967177
I won‘t apologies to you smelly autists

>>17967178
thank you anon

>>17967177
Not WORST notes but notes that I've come to heavily dislike in frags that most people DON'T bitch about:

Amberwood: smells way too fruity/woody like an whiskey barrel to me. Also I seem to be partially noseblind to it as most frags that have it smell half-transparent to me.

Ambergris: This smells harsh, sharp, and I don't like it's animalic touch. PASS!

I'M GONNA SAY IT. Prada l'Homme is boring and smells like a dull soap. Also it's performance is trash.

>>17967159
Montana Green, 10 sprays
>>17967177
Oud, Tonka, saffron, apple

>>17967177
iris and vetiver
/thread

>>17967148
Why do you keep spamming when there’s already 5 frag generals on tbe board? Quit being such an autistic spas.

im looking for a spring/summer scent and im considering paco rabanne invictus or versace pour homme

which one should i go with?

>>17967232
Post your sotd

>>17967235
New West for him

>>17967232
>Why do you keep spamming when there’s already 5 frag generals on tbe board? Quit being such an autistic spas.
go back to your containment thread, faggot

>>17967198
>>17967214
Love how scrapings off an animal’s glands and fuckin whale vomit are beloved perfume ingredients.

Kinda like ambergris though, but I feel like it’s completely different from fragrance to fragrance because the porpoise hork can differ so wildly.

What to wear if I want everyone around me to know I'm better than them?

>>17967244
Make everybody choke with your £300 wet dog smell.

>>17967236
Sotd is Caron yatagan

To the anon that recommended this ages ago: thanks, it's fuckin snice

>>17967287
You’re welcome

L’HOMME INFINIMENT

>>17967148
Thanks for making a real thread instead of the loser spammer ones

>>17967159
Getting ready to test four Tauer samples. Prob do 2 sprays of each.

>>17967177
Worst? Worst to my nose was opium, only think that has ever really been a straight “Fuck, get this away from me” smell.
General dislike is all forms of synthetic Ambergris. Never smelled the real thing.

>>17967242
Kek

>>17966948
Yes it suffers from longevity. It's been sitting there for a couple years now so it has improved slightly, but expect 2-3 hours of weak projection.

Sooo did any of you niggas win the Ecuacion prizes? I was two numbers off from the 500 yuros prize. Pretty bummed.

>>17966840
They bear very little resemblance to each other, almost none at all to my nose. EN is extremely synthetic-smelling and very forward on the vetiver. Hwyl is spicier, warmer. Incense plays a big part in the opening. There's vetiver present towards the drydown but it doesn't focus on it nearly as much as EN does. Hwyl smells much more natural as a whole.

Anyone here have guerlain vetiver? Trying to figure out how much carnation/potpourri style sweetness it has going on.

Might have a good deal on a bottle but don't want to waste my money if it's too sweet-floral smelling.

What fragrance is going to make me happy again? Civet & oud?

>>17967417
Civet, get Guerlain Jicky or Guerlain shalimar.

>>17967427
Wow, Fragrance General undefeated. A real rec for classic scents. Demonstrating knowledge, I yield. I love the fact these are both old formulas.

>>17967177
Can't stand cashmere or lily of the valley

Just started out. Cold seasons/nights are getting a lot of my attention.

A ebay seller sold me a "new open box" frag that was 6 years old. I don't consider that 'new open box' but aged and 'used'. Should I leave negative feedback, or is it on me for not asking for the batch code?

>>17967561
What seller?

>>17967361
nope :(

>>17967177
>not liking amber

>>17967159
Tommy by Tommy Hilfiger
17 sprays

Givenchy gentleman boisee has to be one of the worst frags I’ve ever smelled, at least in terms of being a mass produced, normie frag. Was at a dept store today and the lady at the counter gave me a sample and holy fuck this smells awful. I don’t know if it’s the iris or what but i had a physical reaction to how bad it is.

What's with the autistic thread splitter and his obsession with Guerlain again

>>17967643
Well then I sure hope you weren't the asshole flexing at me talmbout how you're the BF god and how you're winning the five hunnid.

>>17967663
lol no way

>>17967662
nothing special, probably just the potent mix of obesity and schizophrenia

Post your favorite combo

>>17967667
But of all companies, why fixate on Guerlain?

>>17967671
that's just one of the pics he saved from here, it's mostly dior homo tho

>>17967672
I doubt that all those posts sucking off Guerlain in all 3 threads aren't just him samefagging

>>17967673
that picture is pure sex tho

>>17967247
Its my free day and just sprayed loup on the back of my hand

Glorious

Guys i think I've found my perfect autumn fragrance

>>17967655
Smells like gross fake sweetness to me, probably because that’s what it is.

has anyone tried this sauvage looking ripoff?

What is the /frag/ consensus on imitation fragrances, like those on theessenecvault.co.uk for example? Are they cringe? I'm trying to smell nice without breaking the bank.

>>17967417
Mass appealing scents with an interesting edge. Like Fahrenheit with that leather and violet smelling like petrol. Or Yatagan which smells just like a cosy forest walk.

>>17967159
1. bleu de chanel EDT
2. 3 sprays

>>17967177
Iris, definitely

>captcha: g 420 ga

>Valentino Born In Roma Intense Uomo
>Jean Paul Gaultier Le Male Le Parfum
>Azzaro The Most Wanted

Which one should I get? 28 yo male.

>>17967850
Which one did you like the most? Choose that one.

>>17967850
>Valentino Born In Roma Intense
If you own any of the iris-based Dior Homme line then this is redundant. If not then this is a good scent. More chocolate than the Dior Homme.

>Jean Paul Gaultier Le Male Le Parfum
Most people like it. I don't. I think it's better than elixir

>The Most Wanted
A crowd pleaser. TMW / Parfum depending on weather. This is the one to get between these three because they're all on the sweeter side.

you should go to the small and smell them. They're all available

Was the masstige schizo ahead of his time with his gospel?

>>17967864
Link to the article by that frog https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/2-independent-perfumers-future-creative-high-end-remi-pulverail-tdvpe

>>17967866

>>17967868
Take ensar oud out of that list and I'll agree with it

>>17967864
So the entire fragrance industry is essentially a scam? Who knew.

What are the worst masstige offenders? PdM/Initio, Jerkoff, Ormonde Jayne, MFK, Byredo, and other overpriced ""niche"" brands hyped up by Youtube/T*kt*k shills?

>>17967872
Ormonde Jayne is not masstige retard

>>17967872
Ormonde Jayne is based. Recently some bottles hit discounters where I live, and I can get 120ml bottles for less than 100EUR. That's a no brainer for me.

>>17967876
Where is that?

>>17967877
Notino

Thoughts on jubilation xxv and du bois Portugal? I want to smell like status and power without actually having any

>>17967177
>honey
>saffron
>pink pepper
>praline

>>17967887
BdP is okay but NYI is better, a touch more modern. Jubilation smells like freshly wiped asshole, which Reddit adores because it’s overpriced arabslop. Either way, fragrance becomes fashion the moment you wear it outside. if you don’t exude power and wealth already, fragrances like these will smell pretentious on you, like a man with no confidence putting on a brave face in his new schott leather jacket

>>17967733
congrats

>>17967833
are there any perfumes with a foot note?

>>17967924
Le Labo Santal 33

>order sample of picrel
>excited because it sounds like a soft version of Iron Duke
>uncap, sniff
>smells like leather car seats on a hot day, vomit, sweet powdery orris and barely there honey
>sweaty car seat dry down continues
Extremely glad I didn’t blind buy, damn

QRD on pic related? Enjoyed the sample I was given but wonder how it fares in the long term

>>17967811
How soft is the bank? I can’t speak for imitation frags, but Rogue and Essential Parfums are both quality perfumes for a cheap price, a steal really for the quality you get.

>>17967850
The based answer >>17967854 The even more based answer >>17967863

>>17967982
I don’t think it’s quite as bad as your interpretation, was okay to me, but to my nose every Bianchi smells 90% the same so getting this alongside Etruscan Water would have been redundant. You may just want to avoid her work in general.
>Your real mistake was thinking you could replace patrician Iron Duke.

>>17967864
>>17967866
>>17967868
Frag has taught me well enough to avoid overpriced masstige, but this shit is so applicable to me right now on so many levels.
>been looking for a quality sweet gourmand for the winter
>fuck you, Frag isn’t right about everything, sweet gourmands are fine
>Sniffed Vanille Havane at local niche store little while back
>fretty pucking gud
>$260 for 50 ml
>$5.2 a ml
>Oof
>hard contemplating the buy, would be most expensive $/ml purchase thus far
>laying in bed last night and think “Shit, maybe Tom Ford Tobacco Vanille wouldn’t be so bad?”
>look up price online, shits -even more expensive-
>mfw WHO BUYS THIS SHIT?!
>mfw no face
>Feeling better about buying Vanille Havane

Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk

>>17967159
Fahrenheit
4 sprays

>>17967868
This picture is the encapsulation of indie cope. No one gives a fuck about your 3-man smell factory. I'm not gonna buy a $4 spray bottle of donkey piss with geraniums for $120 just to support your dream. I don't want a bottle that smells like wet paint drying. Oud is cool to describe, and everyone hates the smell. If you're obsessed with this niche shit you have a hobby instead of a personality.

Every time I see this dogshit picture I put on more Nautica Voyage or Polo Red.

Thoughts on megamare?
Most sites are out of samples so I want anon's opinions while they're not restocked.

>>17967982
My girlfriend loves it on me
Captcha: PRIN DH

>>17968075
i like it, smells like the sea with seaweed and stuff (wow)
the performance is very good

>>17968083
based

>>17968042
I just wanted something akin to the Duke I could wear to work without blasting everybody with loud countryside and rum. It’s got to be a particular structure used that’s activating a childhood scent memory for that leather, cause I usually love every single note that’s in it. Also it’s not coming out even with acetone lol help
>>17968083
Noice

got a dupe of PDM layton exclusif, it's called Anaqeed. Smells really good and expensive, yet the 100ml bottle cost me 28 euros with shipping. Opens kind of woody+animalic with a bit of citrus on top, in 4-5 hours it dries down to a sweet vanilla that the regular PDM layton is famous for.

this is good actually

>>17968102
Anasneed
SOTD Eau des Baux

sotd guerlain ideal extreme 10 sprays

Guys, can I have any opinions on these:

Guerlain Heritage

Eau sauvage parfum

Azzaro pour homme

>>17968142
>Guerlain Heritage
I prefer NYI
>Eau sauvage parfum
That’s a thread’s classic
>Azzaro pour homme
Too sweet and anise-forward for me

>>17968055
For me it's Spicebomb Extreme

>>17968142

> Guerlain Héritage
Classic men's fragrance. Can be compared to New York Intense. But it's a lot more woody. It's definitely worth adding to the collection. but if you have to pick just one, go for NYI.

> Eau Sauvage Parfum
Great, I've heard some people call it grand-dad juice, but people are allowed to be retarded.

> Azzaro Pour Homme
Classic, but a bit too sweet. would've liked the caraway and iris to be replaced with something else. Decent choice but I wouldn't reach for it on a daily basis.

>>17968055
So buy Eau des Baux.

>>17968146
What is NYI? New york intense?

>>17968183
yes, from Nicolai

>>17968142
>Eau sauvage parfum
Bad. The EDT is the good one but it doesn't last at all

>>17968235
check out PdN Riviera Verbena if you need Eau Sauvage EDT done right

>>17968238
Xerjoff Fiero is also good

Guerlain heritage is the edp version. I have my eye on those three and there is a seller that has all three for sale together .


Thanks for the opinions guys

>>17968001
I've received a lot of compliments wearing it but personally, I find the smell a bit obnoxious. The longevity is pretty good.

>>17968108
>In all seriousness, it smells like an alcoholic ex after a particularly bad night. Sweat, vomit, saliva, and metal. I never wanted to smell this again. Unfortunately my sample bottle broke open so my entire apartment smelled like it for a week. Debated taking my cat and staying in a hotel until it died down, or renting an ozone machine.
you do you friend

>>17967159
1. TF Oud wood
2. 6 Sprays

>>17967864
>>17967868
/frag/ has always been ahead of the curve
>the infographics being staple internet resources about fragrances copied and reposted everywhere from reddit through blogs to facebook profiles of niche perfume shops
>/frag/ shilling Areej Le Dore around the time the first line was released
>talking shit about masstige brands when everyone and their mother was still hooked on Jeremy and Parfums de Marly
>making Bois Imperial a global bestseller before anyone had known about it
Listen, the masstige infographic is going to destroy some of the brands you see on it. Screencap it. The tide has been steadily growing since it was created. People are getting visibly fed up with bullshit that all these brands try to pull off.

>>17968358
>Fragrantica tulpas
>mfw it's actually real
What the fuck? Who is writing those reviews? That's some >>>/x/ type of shit.

>>17967169
>have been burning japanese aloeswood sticks and love the smell, anything like that in perfume form?
No

>>17968372
you should see the reviews when a large designer house releases a "new" fragrance. people with no fragrances come out of the woodwork and be like "this is the best ever 10/10" and then their profile looks like this...

>>17968372
>>17968385
...or this...

>>17968372
>>17968386

>>17968388
...and the ride just never fucking ends. fuck you, l'oreal.

>>17967148
I like the new version of Armani Code EDT and I'm not ashamed of it

I don't know how to feel about this. It smells good but the ginger note is so fucking strong it becomes nauseating

This is the strongest fucking projection I've ever seen

>>17968400
Montale in general is nuclear. Black Aoud is even crazier with it

>>17968400
Nice and all, but i don't want to smell like camel dung mixed with baccarat rouge(saffron & rose).

>>17968075
>Thoughts on megamare?
The most expensive formulation for any fragrance you can buy on the market that's not just pure orris butter or oud oil. Stuff has $100 worth of expeeive capive aromachems in each bottle.

>>17968469
all that money just to smell like aquatic + pepper

>>17968472
Megamare smell actually very synthetic, screechy overdose of salt.

>>17968071
See tho friend, there’s designer, there’s “niche” which gets discussed here, and then there’s TRUE niche, which is basically what you’re describing. No one actually talks about true niche shit here for exactly that reason, no one else has fucking heard of it.

The stuff listed in that poster IS NOT what you’re talking about. Some of it is better than others, but none of it is “true” niche.

>>17968075
I have a 1mL sample sitting in my night stand that I’ve been procrastinating testing both because the polarizing opinions on it, but also because it’s a damn blotter.
Just from sniffing the bag it smells 70% spicy 30% aquatic but we’ll see.

>>17968094
lol, to each their own. I’ll admit in hindsight it was prob a bit too heavy but I rocked 6 sprays of Iron Duke to work on Friday.

>>17968108
It does not. >>17968264 >you do you friend
You are too kind.

>>17968155
Any recently produced bottle has been reformulated to shit. I tried 3 before I gave up and swore off L'Oréal.

>>17968179
Fuck. Ya you’re right I do need to. I’ve been searching for a decant of it, then I was even just searching for it on a discounter, but I’m prob just gonna buy it retail. Can’t find it anywhere here in the US.

>>17968392
>E’yup

>>17968477
Nice blog post. Not reading it

>>17967159
musc ravageur
5

>>17968396
based armani code enjoyer

Have ADG so I don't need Versace PH, got Dylan Blue instead.

I think I like blue frags but the smokey/musky in this is just too much.

best histoires de parfums?

Has anybody tried any of these fragrances? If so, please let me know your thoughts.
>Blackmail by Kerosene
>Chipmunk by Zoologist
>Hwyl by Aesop

>>17968780
Hwyl is fantastic, it became my signature and daily driver. It's a smooth, relaxing blend of fresh green trees/aged wood/incense. The wood is a bit sharp immediately after applying but it quickly blends together.

Hunt for deals on mercari. There's always people putting up bottles of hwyl for $50 under regular price or more, just have to be patient and wait for another to pop up. I got my last bottle there for $70.

should you or shouldn't you apply perfume to your hair?

>>17968829
if you’re a man that is extremely retarded and gay

if you’re a woman (ywnbaw), maybe one spray if you have long hair

>>17968831
how so? I have medium long hair

Bought some YSL La Nuit de L'Homme edt 2010 or 2009
Holy shit its good, night and day compared to new versions

>>17968780
Blackmail is okay but never stuck out to me compared to other Kerosenes. I have to stick my nose really close to where I dabbed it on to get anything. Maybe if I had a full bottle and sprayed it from (Kerosene's cheap, plasticy) sprayer I'd find out it's beastly. You can never be sure from dabbing.
It's undeniably smoky, but not overly smoky. There's also vanilla, and smoke + vanilla reminds me of LADDM but Blackmail's fruitiness sets it apart. It's distinctive but not obnoxious. Might be usable in public.
I've never sat down and concentrated on this one before, and I like it more than I did before. Probably not going to buy a full bottle anytime soon, but I wouldn't mind owning this.

>>17967159
1 Fakhar extrait
2 about 15 all over the body 2 hours before going out.

>>17968904
What's the difference?

>>17968771
1740 is really nice , love that one

>>17968961
The old owner came inside the bottle a few times in the last couple of years due to a fetish and now the fragrance smells better and projects more

>>17968477
>but none of it is “true” niche

>Ensar
>Slumberhouse
>Zworykina
>Pomare’s
>Bogue
>House of Matriarch
>…
>Not true niche
What is it then? What is “true” niche?

>>17968904
You could just buy some really nice fragrance that’s still in production for that money. You’re just glorifying it based on the reformulation hype built.

>>17969003
Ensar is a fucking clown that overhypes his stuff to stupid degrees to the point that he sells wooden chips for thousands of dollars. Same could be said for Russian Adam. Both distillers with no sense of the art of perfumery that somehow attract guys with too much money like flies.

The ridiculous video of Russian Adam spraying 100 sprays while emptying an attar on his arm , proves that he is a clown

>>17967287
smells like clove, terrible

SOTD resist me. bet you've never heard of it

>>17968771
1899 hemingway, refined snicebomb

>>17967416
>if it's too sweet-floral smelling
not in the slightest, it's incredibly dry to me. reference vetiver really

>>17968477
>has been reformulated to shit
Really? The sample one at a local store still smelled great and lasted well. I assume it would have to be pretty new

>>17969003
My apologies, I should not speak in absolutes as I don’t know all houses on the list.
More precisely what I’m trying to convey is there are a (relatively) small subset of “Niche” houses that get discussed commonly here in frag, a wild amount of others that are never mentioned, and then there are a few that are what >>17968071 is talking about.
My point is the donkey piss and geraniums ones are not on the list though, at least in my forays into niche houses.

>>17969075
I wrote up a semi-long (hopefully) humorous blogpost about it like 7-8 threads ago.
Long story slightly shorter, I bought a bottle online directly from V&R, it was shit performance and longevity confirmed by multiple people other than myself.
I got them to send me a free replacement, it was still shit.
I got them to send me a third replacement, it was shit a third time, and so finally I shipped them back the original bottle, got my money back, and ended up with 2 useless bottles of SBE that have the performance of an aftershave (albeit for free).
I would have rather just gotten a bottle when it was first released that had the original nuclear sillage and crazy longevity.

>scored picrel for £30 boxed for gf on vinted
Have made her very happy. Honestly reminds me of The Ghost in the Shell which she already has but without the bitterness or synthetic notes.

>>17969006
>to the point that he sells wooden chips for thousands of dollars
The fact that it's too expensive for you, doesn't mean that it's not worth that for others. You're not the target. Dubai princes owning a handful of Bentleys and who can pay $1,000,000 for a license plate like it's nothing are.
>>17969104
Bogue, Bianchi, Tauer, Prin, Prissana, Beaufort, Slumberhouse, Ormonde Jayne, Rogue are regularly discussed in those thread and seem to be on the left side of that poster. What "true" niches would you like to see discussed more here?

>>17969147
The niche that encompasses Bath and Body Works obviously

>>17969147
The fact that is priced according only to his own criteria makes him a glorified snake oil seller , the way it promotes it gives away that fact also

>>17969163
I have only smelled his Crime and Punishment and it was good. How deep into artisan ouds are you? I follow a few forums about that and the consensus seems to be that he's on the expensive side of things but his stuff is good and apparently worth the price for those who are deep into it. I wouldn't pay that much for chips/some of his composition personally neither, but I don't think that it invalidates him as an artist/craftsman. He's annoying with his purple prose and an online persona, but so is the guy from Slumberhouse (even more so). There are quite a few pathologies and snake oil salesmen in the fragrance industry but I wouldn't bother to pick up a fight against a niche one-man-show brand when things like Terenzi, Roja or even Amouage scamming people with their CPOs exist.

Good spring, summer fragrance with good projection and longevity?

>>17968833
Just drape your hair over your shoulder and do one spray. Your hair won't emit as much heat as your skin, so fragrances may last longer on it.

>>17969155
BBW unironically makes pretty good fragrances sometimes
Not as good as Lush, but still pretty decent for the price

>>17969165
I'm a huge rogue and prin fan, and never really got the hype for Russian Adam and slumber house and all other shits. Even bortnikoff sometimes is fucking annoying

I hate their marketing gimmicks

>>17969258
>Russian Adam and slumber house
What of their fragrances have you smelled?

>>17969258
Also
>I hate their marketing gimmicks
>huge rogue and prin fan
Rogue made his entire brand on one marketing gimmick; i.e. convincing people that "IFRA BAD, FUCK IFRA". Meanwhile, when a few years ago he had tested his fragrances, they all could easily pass the IFRA regulations and he had to eat his words and admit that he was just clueless. He even doesn't have that big concentrations of oakmoss: Kaszebschi Mech blows all the Rogue oakmoss things out of the water. The guy from Perfumecraft actually went on a fight with IFRA and tested the system and their limits for restricting ingredients, which resulted in IFRA pushing back the restrictions on oakmoss for Kaszebschi Mech substantially, from what I remember from his blog. Meanwhile, Manuel from Rogue just assumed that he must be a badboy of the industry, but couldn't be even arsed to check the regulations.
Prin has some excellent releases, but his strategy of (re)releasing 10s of fragrances each year under 3 different brands just to score points for novelty may also be called dubious. That's the same strategy that Guerlain has used over the last few years by spamming releases and flankers to milk consumers prone to new releases hype. He probably doesn't use many other marketing gimmicks only because his English is a limiting factor there.

>>17969213
My SOTD is IDEO Parfumeurs Mumbai to London. I got it for like $50, and I think it's perfect for Spring if you want something more refined and classical but can't afford to just buy New York Intense.

>>17969221
>Lush
Lush is a hidden niche gem of fragrance industry. They have some solid, truly niche releases. However, some anon said that they're cheapening their formulas. Can't confirm that. I really enjoyed Breath of God and The Smell of The Weather Turning a few years ago.

>>17969274
By the time I started to get into rogue fragrances i already read his post in basenotes saying that he was childish about the whole "fuck ifra" shit. If he was still like that I would ignore the brand all together.

You can say whatever you want about prin, but having three lines for different price points and material quality is not a marketing gimmick, specially when the materials are top quality.

Never tried the polish brand you mentioned but I'll try to get my hands on it.


>>17969269
Literally zero. I have some samples on the way of ALD, but even if I like the perfumes Im in no fucking way spending money on them. The last ald release was a shitshow preying on fomo.

>>17969309
>I have some samples on the way of ALD, but even if I like the perfumes Im in no fucking way spending money on them. The last ald release was a shitshow preying on fomo.
I agree with your points despite owning a few ALD bottles including the full set for the latest release that I paid $1600 for. This doesn't change that most of his fragrances are very high quality and unique (I agree that he's not a particularly talented perfumer but rather an expert distiller) and I was fine with paying for it. Some are flops but it's a tad disingenuous on your side to criticize a perfumer if you haven't tried his perfumes but I see where is it coming from.

>>17969309
Rogue has merit in its criticism of ifra. Ifra is a committee of the perfume industry that uses Jewish means to use less expensive synthetics instead of more expensive natural materials. It gives them ground to stand on when giving you a lesser quality product to increase their profit margins. In before there’s no difference.

>>17969356
They're merely issuing recommendations. You don't have to be IFRA-compliant to sell your fragrances. That's a talking point that some of niche houses made out of thin year as a marketing gimmick. Go listen to some vlogs of Sarah McCartney from 4160 Tuesday on the topic.

>>17969361
Ifra is the big perfume industry. They’re giving theirselves recommendations to:
>cover theirselves from lawsuits
>give reason to use less expensive ingredients to increase profit margins

>>17969350
The perfumes might be good and at worst a 0 loss investment, I'm just talking about his stunts on YouTube and his marketing methods selling himself as a perfume messiah, the whole thing is really ridiculous to me.

I loved tauer until he did that shit with his last release making it a limited edition for no fucking reason. All the artisan perfumes seem to be doing this shit lately , and it's saddening.

Im glad prin is probably busy fucking Thai teenager boys while doing perfumes to think about how to market his stuff and that he is unable to befriend Russian Adam and ensar because they are both Muslim and homophobic.

>>17969147
I believe you’re missing the point Anon, the original post that started this was someone saying that all the niche in that pic encompasses people putting donkey piss and geraniums is a spray bottle and calling it perfume.
I disagree.
The left side of that pic is like… “mainstream niche”. Quality, vetted houses that make good scents. Again, I can’t speak for them all, but you yourself just listed several I personally love. Rogue, BFL, Tauer, Bianchi is okay.

>>17969274
*Shrug* I like Rogue because I’ve smelled his shit and it’s great scents with good projection and decent longevity for a reasonable price.

>>17969309
Wanna educate me a little on Prin’s lines? He’s prob the (relatively) most talked about person on Frag that I’ve never bothered even looking into.

Only just recently noticed there are separately “Prin” and “Prisanna” or w/e and didn’t realize they were actually independent from each other.
Same thing with the Orto Parisi / Nasomatto guy.

>>17969383
You can get a good look at Prin’s library here: https://bloomperfume.co.uk/collections/prin
Lists notes and has descriptions. He is lines are PRIN (hard mode), Prissana (average /frag/ user friendly mode) and Strangers (ez mode).

>>17969383


He has three lines, his most experimental and gimmicky one called strangers parfumerie, making perfumes for certain characters from movies he loves (he studied cinema as a career before starting making perfumes ) or just some weird experiments. Most of them are a miss for me, but he has some good ones like Burning Ben, and some others are really just prin being playful. It's the cheapest of his lines with the prices being around 85 euros for 30 ml.

Prissana is his oriental line , prices ranging from 140-160 per 30 ml and Prin is his mainline, using the highest quality materials he can find and prices range from 160 to 400+ euros per 30 ml.

If you wanna try some of them I can give you some recommendations if you tell me about your taste. I tried basically all of his perfumes and I own more than a few.

I mostly wear CDG scents and even other guys at my college with a decent knowledge of frags and big collections usually haven't heard of them and ask where to even get them (it's always online, nobody sells them in person here). Are they not as big in the USA in general since you can't cop at Neimans or Macy's or are is it just that they're not well known by zoomers? Most of these dudes just knew the brand from the meme heart converse and weren't aware they made frags, one guy had heard of the 2011 glue scent but had never seen a bottle from them in person. I'm def not complaining about being the only dude I know who rocks it, but I also don't at all see them as a particularly niche or unknown brand

>H24 Herbes Vives
new H24 flanker announced, sounds interesting desu
notes:
>top: Herbal Notes
>middle: Pear
>base: Physcool®

just tried the new Oud Minerale. can't say I get any oud from it, but it's pretty nice for an aquatic. some darker woody incensy quality to it, some seaweed, mineral and salty. interestingly enough, I get a lot of the fir balsam on paper, not so much on skin
can't say it's given me a new appreciation of aquatics, but I can get behind this more than most other renditions of the genre that I've tried. I like the lack of citrus notes, though calone is still here

>>17969452
>Physcool®
>Physcool® allows cooling without causing a menthol taste; therefore, it is applicable for any flavour tonalities.
Oh, that’s fun. So it just goes on and tingles for a while as an extra or does it go straight up your nose too?

>>17969452
>>top: Herbal Notes
>>middle: Pear
>>base: Physcool®
classic modern note breakdown lmao

>>17969541
better than picrel

>>17969541
At least they're slightly more honest about it instead of just making up bullshit again.

On that note, I've been considering buying testers for fragrance accords and essential oils to experiment at home. Other than vetiveryl acetate, javanol and guiacol, what else should I consider for synthetics?

>>17969452
I really wonder what the sales are for the H24 line. it's a pretty quirky choice for a whole main line of men's fragrances, it doesn't really smell like anything else
if they're making flankers then I guess the sales can't be too terrible

which discovery set should i get. tried ~100 frags, mostly slop

eldo (i can order 8 piece only, not 20)
beaufort london
essential parfums
serge lutens
imaginary authors
nicolai parfums

or something else? essentials parfums seems best bang for the buck

>>17967416
Despite the note breakdown it pretty much just smells like vetiver, bergamot and tobacco. Dry to the bone.

>>17969558
What are your favourite kinds of scent? ELDO a will get you more variety, IA might only have one in the whole box you like, etc. I love Beaufort but it’s not for everybody.

>>17969387
>>17969394
Ahhh, much appreciated kind Anons! Such a straightforward and simple breakdown.
I’ll probably look in Strangers and Prissana and pick a few things to sample just for the experience. Appreciate the offer of suggestions >>17969394 but I’ll have to type some up later.
From the cursory bits I’ve read here I don’t think the PRIN line would be for me, both based on notes and price.

>>17969396
I won’t claim to be super knowledgeable about CDG or what’s well known to the public, but I believe what you said is correct. Anything that isn’t available in a Macy’s or Sephora is already a bit down the rabbit hole for the general public.
Purely for perspectives sake, you have to keep in mind that Hermes, a commonplace designer house in the EU, is essentially a niche brand in the US (At least where I live) because it’s just not stocked. There’s like one tiny “artisan” clothing store near me that carries a few of their high profile frags, no where else in quite a long ways.
L’Occitane is the same way. I can’t get their frags -anywhere- near me, and only 2 stores in ~50 miles even carry some of their skincare products.

>>17969452
Damn. The Physcool® sounds very interesting, but I wouldn’t care for the pear. May sample it one day, doubt I’d ever buy it.

>>17969558
Yeah the essential parfums one is good value

>>17969573
>Purely for perspectives sake, you have to keep in mind that Hermes, a commonplace designer house in the EU, is essentially a niche brand in the US
Yeah it's weird to think about it. I just sniffed Bel Ami Vetiver at the nearest chain store that doesn't carry a single niche brand. And there's a l'occitane store in that same mall.
The US fragrance market has some big differences fro EU for sure.

>>17969582
L’occitane stores are so nice. Not sure about the US, but they make you a cup of green or chamomile tea whilst you browse in the one nearest to me in the UK.

>>17967159
Ombre leather. 3 sprays.

>>17969582
Hermes pricing in Europe is still closer to Chanel than other designers.

>>17969274
>The guy from Perfumecraft actually went on a fight with IFRA and tested the system and their limits for restricting ingredients, which resulted in IFRA pushing back the restrictions on oakmoss for Kaszebschi Mech substantially, from what I remember from his blog
does that justify the over 2x price increase?
>>17969387
strangers perfumery also has some stuff that wouldn't fit into prin or prissana.
>>17969590
they dont do that here but rituals does the same thing

>>17969572
i like white musk, clean scents but also wood+fruits. also i kinda like original adg and absolu. encre noire is also great
not fan of sweet, vanilla and balsamic and chypre and moss

>>17969595
True, although it depends. Some of their stuff can be found for not that much at discounters, I got a 100ml of TdH for 50 euro or something a year ago. And H24 is squarely designer priced too.
The parfums and more limited releases do get up there close to Chanel though

>be brown
>obsessed with white girls
>try to get into other ethnic girls
>realise yet again white girls got the big ass/tits but with that pretty face
It's over, white girls are my kryptonite.
Sotd Al Rehab Dakar

>>17969619
You tried Diptyque? They have a lot of clean musky and wood/fruit fragrances. Philosykos might be good for you.

>>17969641
ive tried wearing dakar but it just smells like some sweet vinegar and the scent fades away once i forget about me even applying it.

and i still get zero bitches

>>17969685
Bro, you need atleast 10 spritz of Dakar

>>17969558
get Tauer discovery sets if you can
IA is hit or miss
ELDO has custom boxes of 4 for more flexibility
Ecuacion Natural is the place to go for more exotic samples (Rogue, Prin, etc.)

>>17969693
even 1 spritz is enough to make me wanna change clothes i might as well just wear axe

also posting thirst traps all day isnt jelqmaxxing bozo

>>17969213
Gianfranco Ferre Bergamotto Marino is a beast in spring

>>17969574
i think ill get it and one or two more once done
>>17969646
i had Diptyque Eau de Minthe sample and didnt like it. was basically masculine chypre/barbershop scent i think. are others any better?
>>17969710
thanks anon

>>17969756
>Diptyque Eau de Minthe
Didn't tried it, but another potential banger for Drakkar Noir chads

>>17969771
yeah it has a nice mint note on top of a barbershop scent. but not for me i think. was looking for mint frags back then

>>17969756
Fleur de Peau (EDP) or L’eau Papier (EDT) for soft musks, Philosykos (EDT) for fig fruit/p and the fig tree and leaves, Eau de Senses (EDT) for bitter oranges and the orange tree, Tam Dao (EDP) for woods will probably be up your ally, if you can get testers easily.
I don’t love all of their frags, but they do tick lots of your boxes. Minthe is definitely not up your alley lel

>>17967177
Neroli and mint for me

>>17969793
their discovery set looks cool but 5x 7,5ml are kinda pricey. i will see if i can order 1-2ml decants of the ones you mentioned instead as they look promising. many thanks anon

>How can one attend the coronation of Satan without ever once having tasted sin? Oud and labdanum come together to create a diabolical and sumptuous veil of indulgence and remorse for a first transgression.

>“No longer does one need to go to Hell to summon the Devil. Seek, and the Earth shall provide! I now no longer turn to a blazing fire Choosing burning embers over fiery flames, my remorse conquers the night.” Serge Lutens

What the fuck did he mean by this?

>>17969872
chuuni desu

>>17968780
Chipmunk was straight up hazelnuts. I really liked it, but performance just wasn't there. That's pretty much all I can say about it.

>>17969075
He's right about Spicebomb Extreme. I also fell for it, and now I'm stuck with a bottle with no performance. I was amazed by the original formulation Spicebomb, it was really good. Then I tested SB Extreme at a store and also decided to buy a bottle later one, when there was a good deal for it. That bottle had zero performance in it (from a reputable seller). It was dead already.

>>17969452
Probably as disgusting as the other ones from the line.

>>17969452
Smells like pic related
>>17969489
Oud Minérale is the aquaric fragrance out there, hands down. Tom Fords aquatic line is excellent.

>>17969916
>It was dead already.
I've got one arriving this week. Fuck

>>17967159
Tobacco Vanille. 4 sprays.

>>17969851
I hope you like em if you get them! Should be easy to find decants and official samples for around £6 since they hand them out like candy with purchases.

Any fragrance similar to this? Soapy, green, smells like a green bubble bath.

>>17969930
You smell like an unwashed bum

>>17968656
So day 2 trying it. Only the opening is too musky. It calms down. Just gotta go easy on the number of sprays. I swear every time I read someone saying 1 too many sprays.

>go noseblind to my fragrance
>reee why can’t I smell it anymore
>oh god was it a fake I bought completely new in store
>remember I go noseblind after a few hours
>spray more on anyway
>whew anon what have you been spraying in here?
Every time

>>17969872
Is that why he's supposed to be a satanist lol?

>>17969558
Specifically from what you listed? In order:
Essential Parfums
Beaufort London
Nicolai (although I personally have never tried it)
Imaginary Authors (Also not tried)
Serge Lutens (Listed last only because I have the least experience with the house in general)
>Paying for a trip the the mall to get free decants/samples
ELDO

As you have said, EP is easily best bang for buck. BFL has high quality stuff but generally speaking you’ll either love it or hate it, and ~3 of their frags are SUPER hit or miss imo (Tonnerre, Lignum Vitae, and Vi Et Armis to my nose)

I -was- a big proponent of ELDO for newbies prior to a recent experience, but now I wouldn’t recommend them to anyone.
They give you a discount code with the discovery set which -seems- like a great deal. But then when you go to use it, it drops the price of a 50ml bottle below $100 so you have to pay for shipping, or spend a bunch of extra money on a 100ml (don’t do it).
What really pissed me off though is if you add in a 4piece discovery set on top of your discounted 50ml bottle, to bump the price up over $100 and get free shipping back, they will remove your discount code at checkout because “Discount codes can’t be applied to discovery sets or sample kits.”
So if you REALLY want a bottle (to use your discount code) and another sample kit, say to try something that wasn’t in your original discovery set, you’re forced to purchase them separately and pay for shipping twice.
>Fuck you ELDO
>Yes I’m mad.

Summer is only 6 months away, have you been thinking about what's your rotation is going to be this year? I'm pretty set on these plus I have a little bit of Explorer left. Suggestions are always welcome, I've bought most of my frags based on /frag/ recommendations and they were all great.

>>17970094
my summer rotation:
Guerlain L'Homme
Guerlain Platine Prive
Dior Homme Cologne
Sedley
MFK Amyris Homme
H24 EdT
Givenchy Gentleman EdT
Terre D' Hermes Eau Givree
Prada Amber
Xerjoff Torino 22

>>17970098
>Terre D' Hermes Eau Givree
What's the difference between this and the OG Terre D'Hermes?

>>17970094
Xerjoff Fiero

>>17970094
All Tonnerre

>>17970099
very different
TdH is hot slate rock with dusty orange backing
Eau Givree is crisp astringent bergamot/orange with a cool rocky/dusty finish.
two entirely different vibes, but the dna similarity comes out into the drydown.

What are some of the best niche orientals? I prefer stuff that’s on the sweeter side but isn’t cloying like most designer orientals.

>>17970118
It’s not a sweet oriental, but LADDM is -the- niche oriental.

Are sweet orientals much of a thing? I had to go back up to the OP charts… Chergui maybe? Spicebomb is listed for orientals, but I wouldn’t call it sweet, that’s SBE - and we literally just had that conversation about how it’s shit now.
Even Eau des Baux seems more woody/spicy than sweet based on what most people outside Frag say.

>>17969641
What fragrance is that?

>>17969693
>>17969771

I heard redheads smell different when they wear perfume because of their skin. Is this true?

What would he wear?

>>17969995
Stop spraying on your chest or throat
Stick to shoulders and elbows

>>17970237
Skin scents differ between individuals in general, but it's unlikely to affect how a frag smells unless you're using a balm

>>17967890
Honey can be nice in herbaceous frags, e.g. Paco Rabanne pour home. The rest i agree

>>17970258
drakkar noir (or dior fahrenheit but idk if he can afford it)

>>17969943
Your nan

Sometimes fragrantica is full of bullshit

>>17970283
>smelling like your dangerous uncle
Based

Just got my vintage kouros on the mail and this smell glorious.

Why are people such pussies , this is not the untamable beast it was supposed to be. This smells just straight up good , even floral . Maybe I'm too used to real civet and animal residues of every kind

>Terre d'Hermès
what do we think of it?
I already have Acqua Di Gio, Issey Miyake and Bleu de Chanel, want to add one more

>>17970105
and what about?
Terre d'Hermès
>Eau de parfum
>Eau de toilette

>>17970258
Kouros, 20 sprays

>>17970381
>>17970386
I prefer the EdT, it’s a modern day classic. Great choice for a mature, office friendly scent.
Will prob wear it today, 4 sprays.

sprayed some moncler for men/sunrise on test strips yesterday in a store, this shit is eternal holy fug

>>17970381
it's good, a nice modern spin on an older style of fragrance, taking a classic patchouli vetiver citrus spicy fragrance but using lots of modern aromachemicals to make it all transparent and mineral and tingly. since your choices are fresh but mature and professional, this one should fit right in. do test it before buying though, not everyone digs the earthiness, spices and all the Iso E Super

What's a fragrance starting point for someone whose aesthetic is ivy and Japanese workwear?

>>17970519
Secretions Magnifiques. Perfect for a boring bland semen slurping homosexual like you.

SOTD: LV, ombre nomade, 3 sprays.

help
>Provide your age range.
25
>Provide the season or climate you intend to wear the fragrance in.
Cold now. Less cold later. Do I need two?
>Provide your ideal price range for buying a recommended frag.
Idk. Reckon maybe ~$50 should do it?
>Provide some details on what type of scent you are looking for (favorite notes and accords, hated notes and accords, etc.)
Idk, just dont want so smell like a paki
Had pic rel and liked that
>Provide some details on your intended aesthetic and setting for wearing a scent (frag for school, the office, dates, casual daily wear, etc.)
Mostly casual daily wear (office). Would be great to use the same all the time

>>17970094
Gonna be spraying a shitload of Bergamask.

One of my all time favorites and current daily

>>17970573
try ckone ^

The only fragrance I ever use is Bleu de Chanel EDP, not sure what I can get next which is in the same vein but not too similar. I get a lot of compliments on it from mostly very wealthy women desu so I need something which would still give me the same.

>>17970519
Issey Miyake or something?

>>17970611
It’s a classic. I’ve worn this a lot when younger.

>>17970627
Door sausage

>>17970645
No that's much worse

>>17970573
Go sniff some stuff at the mall at least.

>>17970614
>>17970611

What’s a good fragrance I can use that smells like coffee and buttery croissants/a bakery? Don’t care if it’s not unisex. Not Akro, though, really dislike the sweet lemon element.

>>17970659
Amore Caffè Mancera maybe

never tried it myself tho so i might be talking out of my ass

>>17970659
check out La Tacita de Cafe from Day Three

>>17967159
La Nuit De L'homme, 5 sprays

>>17968001
such a good smell. It's the only fresh fragrance that I can take seriously.

>>17967159
lalique pour homme, 3 sprays

>>17968904
looks darker than the ones being sold now. Or maybe it's the white balance of the picture

Is there anything like CDG2Man/Vetiver 46 that keeps the core of olibanum and vetiver but instead of a backbone of vanillic amber it rather goes more towards ashy, leathery, dry wood?

>>17970713
>>17970688
I’ll give these a sample lads.

have they fixed aventus yet

I want that "fresh laundry" smell. Is this my best bet?

>>17967159
I was testing things today so

2 sprays on my hand of Riviera verbena
Vintage kouros on my left forearm
Eau sauvage parfum on my wrist
Iron duke on my right forearm
Guerlain heritage on my right wrist

And then I went to the gym

>>17970905
been looking for those as well. narciso rodriguez bleu noir and boss bottled night gives certain kind of extension of laundry detergents or artisan fabric softener vibe. i was also recommended these two a few threads earlier but havent tried yet
Silver Musk Nasomatto
Musk Etro

Got my Karen Carpenter perfume. Quite musky and floral

>>17970905
If you want clean laundry, the blue L'Eau bottle does a better job of that than the standard black. Personally though, since we're talking Prada, I'd take the Amber Pour Homme over either of the L'Hommes.

>>17970844
orto parisi cuoium

Man, how is scentspiracy not included somewhere in the OP links?

I haven’t even read many of the pages yet, but reading about the evolution/progression of some of the synthetic chemicals is fascinating. Like how Dihydromyrcenol started out as a minor component in stuff like Azarro Pour Homme and Paco Rabanne Pour Homme, then someone bumped the concentration and we got Drakkar Noir. And then beyond that, a nose got paid to create a cheaper version of GIT, they bumped the concentration even further and we got fucking Cool Water.

1 fragrance. 1 fragrance which people will pleasantly associate me with. Something sweet, fresh, clean. Any suggestions?

>>17970094

I have Chanel Blanche but the projection is too weak and I'm kinda getting tired of it
I have samples of both Xerjoff Nio and Ingenious Ginger which are amazing
I really want to try out Versace Dylan Blue

Also opinions on Acqua di Parma ?

>>17971106
>sweet, fresh, clean
just save your money and don't wear anything if you want something this insipid

>>17971106
JPG Le Male, bud.

>>17971110
I'll have your mother piss on me. Will that work?

>>17971106
Xerjoff Fiero

>>17971106
Chanel Allure Homme

>>17970094
ADG and Dylan Blue

im the newfag poorfag but these are very much worth it

I need a fragrance for hot weather that smells like an authentic macho man. No acuatics nor citruses. Shooting below 100€

>>17971406
Irish Leather

>sitting in my room alone with several of my favorite samples dabbed on every pulse point on my arms and on the back of my hands

>>17971109
AdParma on the whole is not worth it. The blue Mediterranean line is full of scents done better by others (get the discovery sampler to try) and the colonial variants are mostly outdated/bad. The only wearable one is intensa and I don't really wear that one either because there are better ones in my collection. Why were intensa if I could wear Eau Savage Parfum or Beau de Jour or At the Barbershop.

>>17971106
Sweet fresh clean:
Prada L'homme
Wake up world
Fico Di Amalfi
Pasha de Cartier
Azzaro Wanted by Night
D&G the one
Montblanc legend Spirit
Polo Red

What do you guys think?

How do you spell oud? Oud, oudh or aoud?

>>17970717
of all the frags ive ever owned, lndl is the only one ive gotten complimented for

>>17971428
if you get d&g the one get the edp, the edt is really weak and lasts 5 seconds

>>17971432
It's very good.

>>17971406
Any fougere. Like literally any of them.

>>17970611
>makes you smell like a woman

>SOTD: JPG Le Male Elixir
the good part is the (original) Le Male DNA, the bad part is everything else, very sweet, a bit similar bit Naxos but worse, women will like it ofc (so def not gay)
not bad, just meh

Just got a 2018 batch bottle of adg profumo.

This shit is so good , top tier designer perfumery

So are fougeres a summer or winter frag? I have Caesar's Man and it stenches in hot weather but gets pleasant in winter. In my country we are in winter, SOTD Irish Leather and doe the opening if fresh the ashy dry-up is king.

God DAMN this is sexy. I want to fuck myself while wearing it

>>17971574
its time to level up

Just got club de nuit intense and it’s so good.

Should I get YSL Y EDP next?

>>17971588
Never actually tried it. Is it just a better The One?

>>17971595
Never been into the Armaf shit. Tried Odyssey and stank. Had better experiences with Lattafa.

>>17971595
You could have saved yourself some money and used lemon Pledge

>>17971597
I really like this one, my dad has it and it lasts all day

>>17971604
I sold it to a friend of mine smelled better on him and made me jelly.

>>17971610
That's cause there's only one of you, anon. The world is richer for you being in it.

>>17971612
That was kind of you. I needed to heard that.

>>17971614
Lol sensitive faggot

>>17971597
>Odyssey
>Spicebomb clone
Spicebomb is very synthetic as itself, now make it even more synthetic smelling?

NEW THREAD
>>17971628
>>17971628
>>17971628

>>17971106
Ysl myslf for peak 2024 normie

>>17971406
Kouros

I think I have autism /frag/

How do you guys like Zoologist as a house? I'm still pretty new to fragrances but wanted to jump into weird stuff and been sampling a lot of their perfumes over the last couple months and landed on a handful I really like. In love with Sacred Scarab right now. I've definitely narrowed my general taste down a bit and find myself really gravitating towards chypres but not sure if I'm just finding Scarab novel and interesting to my baby nose. There's just something intoxicating about it.

>>17970386
>EdT
Lighter, crisper, much more emphasis on the hot slate/stone. More conceptual/less natural. I think this one is easier to wear. It's less dense citrus so it's more adaptable to any situation, and because it's "confusing" it can be worn in any season.

>Parfum (it's not EdP)
the stone is much further back while the citrus mixed with woody mossy note is brought right up. More juicy/natural like a classical scent with a bright citrus right up front. many say this is the better version (i disagree, but I get it.) This one is more naturally focused so it's likely worn spring and fall. I don't think this works in winter, and may become cloying in summer.

TdH, like H24 is quite hard to describe because the 'effect' is so cool and unexpected.

>>17971538
>meh
it's bad. it's harshy sweet cake. I can tell why 22 year old girls and boys like it, but anyone else should point out how they're going to get a headache.