/fa/ - Fashion

>>17924363
just don't wear tight shoes. I've literally never seen a many with feet like these

>>17924363
'feet health' is the new redditor npc fad the retards are pushing. All the braindead redditors are going crazy for it.
I find this new wave of extreme health obsession hilarious.

>>17924398
Why do people want spread out toes and splayed feet it looks fucking gross, this pic leaves out that those natural barefoot zealots all have fucked up looking feet.

>>17924398
ok retard. the science is pretty definitive that having your toes splayed naturally rather than conform to a modern shoe shape restores natural alignment and balance, reduces the risk of bunions, hammertoes, or overlapping toes, better foot strength improved circulation and more comfort. you dismissing something as reddit or npc based on nothing is legit retarded.

>>17924363
Wearing your fuckin size.

>>17924398
>new
imagine being this zoomer

>>17924369
>>17924525
its not about shoe size its about the shape of most modern shoes

>>17924539
I wear nike runners and there’s literally 0 discomfort. My fingers has enough space to wiggle and nothing presses them together. You don’t need a special meme shoe just don’t wear shit like boots.

>>17924363
W I D E S H O E S E X I S T

>>17925342
But theyre ugly

>>17924363
Just go barefoot more often than not, simple as.

It doesn't mean being barefoot all the time, but everytime you're not working.

>>17924564
You wear shoes on your hands?

>>17924509
Then explain why the billion of people in East Asia who live barefoot also have fucked up feet half of the time.

>>17924363
>walk barefoot at home
>wear barefoot shoes as much as possible (basically anywhere you don't feel the need to impress people)
>compromise a bit and wear regular shoes half a size up when you want to impress

some barefoot shoes are okay-looking but they're always a bit goofy, that's just the reality of super thin soles and wide toe boxes
also keep in mind that you will be perceived as being a bit shorter than you are, because everyone wears sneakers with 1+ inch soles, and boots add even more

>>17924539
its not about the size of the shoe but the motion of the ocean

zero drop for life
Vivobarefoot, but I dunno the exact model, I bought em used.

>>17925624
post a pic of the top view

>>17924363
health before fashion

>>17925724
Ronald has great posture, let's be fair.

>>17925725
valid point

>>17925342
wide shoes actually don't help at all. they focus on width through the mid foot but still squash in the pinky and big toe

>>17925624
Disgusting flat feet.

Your shoes wont fix that, you might as well wear Timberlands.

>>17924363
>don't wear shit shoes
>wear your size
there, fixed it.

>>17925342
Wide Ho Sexist (I am)

>>17925342
>WIDES HO SEXIST
(I am)

>>17925837
they are, actually.

>>17925935
No it's not, flat feet are not flixable, it's a genetic trait.
You can just work on the flexibility and consciouscly flexing your mini arch but as soon as you don't think about flexing, it will collapse. Flat feet are only fixable by surgery.
You should hide those stompers inside proper shoes hiding their deformity.

>>17924363
Be a skater and wear “és silo plus” there’s a few skate shoes that have somewhat wide toe boxes, vans are ok but don’t cut it if you want a shoe to fit like a glove but wide enough to keep your toes healthy and strong

>>17925792
Will going up in side fix toe impingement

If I ever catch one if you niggas wearing these ugly Redditor shoes I’m throwing hands right then and there

>>17925980
you don't know what you're talking about.

it's that simple, enjoy your feet.

>>17924363
Walk barefoot as often as you can.
Wear minimalist shoes when you don't have to look presentable.
Work out in minimalist shoes.
Try to find minimalist shoes that don't look super goofy. Lems Boulder Boot, ZAQQ qampion, vivo ra.
Try to find conventional shoes that do not violate all three rules: wide toe box, flexible sole, no heel drop. Chucks for example have no heel drop.
Wear conventional shoes when you have to look good and don't move a lot. 8 hours of sitting in the office won't deform your feet much.
Try to space out events where you have to both look good and also have to put pressure on your feet.
>>17926198
>If I ever catch one if you niggas wearing these ugly Redditor shoes I’m throwing hands right then and there
I'm looking forward to it.

>>17924363
>my foot health
There's nothing wrong with your feet.
The problem is you are a poorfag and a pleb.

>>17926229
you're not mentioning any of the physical therapy that the shoes are an appendage of, and I think that explains the anger against barefoot shoes I see ITT.

barefoot shoes simply don't become comfortable to walk in until you start addressing the issues that brought you to them in the first place, which are of course no longer issues solely with your feet by this point, but whole-body structural issues.

barefoot shoes are not a solution, they are a tool you use in conjunction with other tools to achieve health.

>>17925991
No.

>>17926314
shut up, go back to r*ddit.

>>17927390
literally can't even offer a shred of rebuttal.
It's like you don't actually form opinions, you just screech.

>>17924363
Why does this picture arouse me?

>>17927826
I know this bitch clumsy af

>>17925792
Freaks with ugly feet will blame their fucking shoes before their faulty genetics lmao

>>17928691
post feet

>>17927798
I said go back to r*ddit faggot.

>>17924539
Wear shoes so big that the widest part, where the ball of your foot is, is where your toes are.

https://youtu.be/SAdvsWx5uDk?si=k6Ay7sUi1yFkr8LI

Buy these. I fell for the shark tank meme but they do work. Couple of days to get use to but you'll notice the difference

i've turned my back on the shoe jew and embraced my socks + sandals zenith

>>17928781
keep screeching, monkey.

How about something like this for foot health? I hear arch support is important. Then paired with a Munson last for the wide toe box.

>>17929032
>heel
wear them if you want, but not for health.

YOU VVILL WÄRE ZE TOE BOOTZ

>>17929274
Lmao, bad english with a german accent is hilarious, next to a french man talking english

PSA for anyone going to the gym. Gaining mobility in your toes is a game changer for your stability if you cant spread and move your toes like in the OP, get some toe spacers and practice regaining mobility in your toes. you're welcome. I wouldn't go so far as top say throw out your shoes, but having a pair of barefoot shoes in your rotation should be a no brainer

Blundstones are decent

>>17929864
Good rec. not perfect for your feet but better than most and also /fa/

>>17925377
>Then explain why the billion of people in East Asia who live barefoot also have fucked up feet half of the time.
What the fuck does that have to do with having properly fitting shoes you fucknut?

>>17925363
he could be slavic, they usually use the same word for fingers and toes

>>17926198
I’ll be in these come find me

Just stop wearing shoes all the time. In other words stop wearing shoes inside, amerimutt.

>>17931863
wait, so you recognize the benefits of going barefoot, but not of wearing a shoe that gives the same benefits, while also protecting your sole?

I'm confused.

>>17924363
Walk around barefoot at home

>>17931867
Not wearing any kind of shoes inside, including your ridiculous looking reddit barefoot shoes, also has the benefit of keeping your floor clean. What do you need to protect your sole from when
you're inside your own home, that house slippers can't protect you from?
This way you get to not look like a moron when going outside and to also not fuck up your feet, while practicing better hygiene too.

>>17931873
I'm not a NEET, I'm out of the house far more than I'm in it, and in my neck of the woods, going barefoot in public spaces is frowned upon.

I understand that you're just reaching for an excuse to screech about shoes literally no one cares if you wear, but try a bit harder, NEET.

>>17925377
Source?

>>17925980
There's two kinds of flat feet. One kind is caused by bone deformity or fusing, which is incurable except by surgery. The other kind called "flexible flatfoot" has multiple causes. Some of those subtypes are curable with exercise alone. I am one of those people who was flatfooted until college, then did physical therapy (stretching and exercises) and now have a regular arched foot. It only took about a month of concentrated effort before it set in and I didn't have to walk "manually" anymore. In my case I had no physical deformity at all, I was just walking with a flat foot by ignorance. I think it was related to autism and a lack of interest or natural self-reflection regarding my own gait.

>>17931873
I can't be barefoot or baresock in my house because the wood floor fills me with splinters

>>17924421
>this pic leaves out that those natural barefoot zealots all have fucked up looking feet.

that's why barefoot shoes exist, brodie

>>17926229
>Try to find minimalist shoes that don't look super goofy.

Mind you, there are many now that don't look goofy, along with the ones he mentioned.

Such as:
Flux
Xero
Feelgrounds

Flux is a little less minimal from what I've seen, but has a wider toe box and zero-drop sole, so it seems to be a nice transitional shoe

>>17931983
Wtf kinda garbage ass floor is that?

>>17932100
one he must've cut down from the forest himself

>>17932100
Cheap wood in a shitty apartment

>>17932115
kek

I wore barefoot shoes for the first time yesterday, walked for about 1.5 miles on asphalt as a test. My Achilles hurts on both feet

>>17932483
I don't believe you.

>>17932531
Here's a pic I took while doing it

>>17932542
well then I'm glad I caught you before you fuck yourself up.
you do not go from regular heeled shoes straight to taking mile long walks on asphalt.
that is how you injure yourself and start ranting online about the big reddit conspiracy.
>>17926314
all the ankle stretches you should be doing no matter what, now you need to do or you will hurt yourself.
start by walking on uneven ground, like a trail or at the park.
that will shift your gait to more natural forefoot walking.

I've been wearing barefoot shoes for about 3 years now, and it's only become comfortable in this last year, as I've done PT to fix my ankles.

>>17932542
i legitimately do not understand how you can look down at your feet wearing those and not laugh
are you retarded

>>17932725
Don't care
>>17932556
So I'm supposed to do stretches?

>>17932731
at least birkenstock clogs/sandals look nice
i have similar toebox room wearing birkenstock boston but at least they have some kind of style to them
this is a fashion board.

>>17932731
you need stretches for the ankles, calves, shins, knees, quads, hips, all the way up lol
I do calf raises
ankle rotations
toe raises
child's pose for the shins
couch stretch for the quads
frog pose for the hips

do them whenever, but do a little every day, and you'll be glad.

Are there any footshaped shoes with cushioning? Our feet were not designed for hard pavement.

>>17932731
the stretches >>17932898 mentioned are correct, also just gradually wearing the shoes more, and not immediately going to them fully will help you acclimate.

also, walking "softer" will help a ton, especially because of your achilles pain. when your heel touches the ground with each step, do it a bit more gracefully (normal shoes are forgiving with force due to the cushioned/raised heels they have), and lower the foot with more control

cut off your feet and replace with prosthetics

>>17932977
nicks thurman last

>>17924421
balance improvements

>>17926229
I never liked the Boulder boot. I found the sole to be wanting in griping ability. Alternatively thier primal 2 and primal zens are my favorite. I recommend primal zens to anyone because the have the wide toe box and are zero drop but also have pretty good amount of cushion, which I like for my long walks in the city. Unfortunately a lot of Zaqqs can't be shipped to the USA, I wish I could get some here

>>17924369
Barefoot or just wide toe box zero drop shoes are definitely better for you, I switched years ago before a lot the NPC reddit fags started with it. But it is annoying seeing all the stuff about it now since they found out.

>>17931863
You stupid foriegn mongrel, most Americans don't wear shoes in the house. Just because you saw it on friends when you were learning English doesn't mean what you see in movies is true.

>>17933096
fuck off retard
I'm american and wear shoes in my house
I even wear shoes to bed

fuck if I'm going to have cold feet in my own house

>>17932977
Lems primal zen have pretty thick cushioning and are foot shaped

>>17933098
Fuckin wear socks retard. If you wear shoes to bed you are severely mentally handicapped. Wtf is wrong with you.

>>17927826
these look so smooth and lickable

vivo barefoot shoes with toe spacers are my current fix, ill never buy another brand of shoes, so fkn comfy and worth it and if your poor and cant throw 200 for the shoes you can goto revivo for refurbished ones.

>>17933155
good prices for them on ebay too.

>>17932542
HONK HONK

>>17932542
at least you looked great doing so!

>>17932977
Crocs desu

>>17932898
>>17932994
Alright thank you
>>17933415
Funnily enough I've walked multiple miles at a time with Crocs and didn't get any pain at all

>>17934531
Nah, I know a guy who hiked the entire AT in a few pairs of Crocs. If you wear a size that fits snugly it's really no slouch, a croc can eat miles no problem

>>17929032
Healthy shoes are supposed to be as flat as possible, definitely no heels.
>>17924363
I fucking hate how my toe hurt when I walk sometimes, I wish I had strong beautiful boy feet but I have a bunion and hammer toes or whatever the fuck it's called. Some of my toes are in slightly different positions and my toe bones have visible bone growth on them like some kind of bony veiny fingers of some old man. My life would unironically be 50% better if I had natural feet and I would barely have any problems at life, those toe problems from bad shoes are suicide fuel for me, I don't pay attention to them now and I do the barefoot healthy things but when I think about them those bad feelings I feel towards my body always come back. Maybe one day my toes will get more stable and they will get back in place where they were supposed to be, I will forever have bony feet but if they will be in normal position then maybe I can live life without killing myself some day
They should teach kids about this shit seriously. Nobody tells you about doing hip and ankle stretches or about correct shoes. I just always assumed I did everything normal until it was too late. I'm very passionate about this subject as you can see

>>17934544
would you say the majority of your foot problems came from your shoes?

>>17934700
Probably, genes play a role too I guess but if I wore sandals when I was a teenager and kid then I would literally have better feet, my toes just bended in ways they shouldn't because I had no idea how the human anatomy works back then. Yeah running and playing sports in not ideal shoes played a role too but I had flat feet too. If I walked barefoot then my feet would develop better. Also standing in a symmetrical way would help too.

>>17924398
post nose

>>17924421
t. Chang

>>17932731
You're using muscles and tendons that are underdeveloped because of your reliance on cushioned heeled footwear necessitating a heelstrike. You'll fuck your feet up if you don't do all the exercises.
I thought I'd done enough. Apparently not and got plantar fasciitis because of it.
Gave up and went back to my usual footwear.

>>17932542
wtf is that fuckin clown shoes haha

>>17932542
its over.

just hang on, bros.
ye is comin in with the 0drop in Q2, then it'll be fine.

How would you rate my feet on the flat feet/ weird feet index?

>>17934986
With all the barefoot pics I believe it. Ye knows what’s up

>>17924421

Burger spotted

>>17935044
step on me

>>17935044
It's not that bad, I have feet like this so I'm less judgemental despite hating the feet of my own. I bet you can barely move your pinky toe like it's petrified or something, you can do some toe stretches.

>>17935495
I don't think many people can move their pinky toe. Some people even have it high on the foot, like dinosaurs.

>>17924363
>>17925724
Kek, you ain't wrong, but man it feels good.

clown shoes are /out/
chinese foot binding is /fa/

>>17935978
ugly as it is, I get the wide shoe
but what the fuck is up with your ankle
why is your ankle wider than your toebox
are you a misshapen downie

>>17934544
Are you me
Foot dysphoric man

>>17936284
Alright now I feel less weird about being obsessed with this, good to know there are other people like me. Some people without any foot problems think it's not normal and people shouldn't pay so much attention to their feet but feet are the foundation of your body and toes are not just extra part of your feet so this feels like a big thing

>>17936825
No it's definitely valid, to use tumblr terminology. Kinda feel cursed as a foot fetishist to have less than optimal feet. And they are vitally important to good posture. Structurally unsound feet will have an echo effect in your knees, hips, spine, ribs, neck, and really brain. Anyway I'm drunk and I have a dildo to situate in myself so sayonara for now.

>>17936986
>to use tumblr terminology.
Wait I use Tumblr words without even realizing it? Nooo
>Kinda feel cursed as a foot fetishist to have less than optimal feet
So true, I'm not really a fetishist but I appreciate feet and I just think about their beauty and I'm OBSESSED with symmetry and feet anger my 'tism. I wouldn't mind if a girl put her feet on my face though, I like sweaty things
>Structurally unsound feet will have an echo effect in your knees, hips, spine, ribs, neck, and really brain.
>Ribs
Wait is the reason why my ribs are so thin compared to the rest of my body could be because of my unhealthy feet? Maybe, it's messed up
>Spine
Maybe people who wear sandals all the time when they were kids were less likely to get scoliosis, it's outrageous how children aren't taught this at school, I guess doctors want people to suffer so they can make money out of physical rehabilitation and meds, ich liebe capitalism. Very messed up

>>17937420
So, I'm not a medical professional so don't take this as gospel, but as I understand it, collapsed arches are very often related to having inwardly pointing knees (knock knees but not necessarily as pronounced looking), which is related to an inward rotation of the femur at the hip. Conor Harris on YouTube explains it all pretty well. Basically, if you want to unfuck your feet, you often also have to unfuck your knees and hips.

I don't think feet have an impact on rib thickness, but bad posture will absolutely mess up your ribcage, look up "rib flare". I actually dunno about the hip-ribcage connection so maybe I got going too fast there.

>>17937494
>Basically, if you want to unfuck your feet, you often also have to unfuck your knees and hips.
I already stretch my hips but it would be good to do some knee exercises, like I avoid doing squats but maybe I'll do something special to strengthen my ankle and knees and have more functional legs, like right now my ankle hurts after a walk. I'll check those videos out, thanks fren. Hopefully it'll get better. I wish one day I would have a body that doesn't hurt at all and moves naturally and freely
>rib flare
I did exercises for that too and it's mostly gone but it's one of those things that never 100% goes away, I have to force my ribs back in place sometimes and it makes this disgusting noise when I do it and it hurts for a while but thankfully it's mostly gone at least. I wouldn't be surprised if my ribs are thin because of all my unnatural movements and bad posture
I'll proceed to worship your words, I already knew those things because I'm interested in them but thank you so much for reminding me to do those things

>>17937752
No problem king, just remember that someday medical technology will have progressed to where everyone can have qtpa2t boifeet

What did you do for rib flare? I'm assembling a spreadsheet with all my posture problems and methods of unfucking them. Wouldn't mind sharing it if there were a way to do it without pasting my personal info on -fucking 4chan-.

>>17937806
Watch youtube videos and shorts about this topic, you have to see for yourself. You have to push your ribs into your stomach and flex your abs while pushing those ribs inside with your muscles and flex your glutes (ass) to have that better posture and stability. Watch a youtube video that explains rib flare better. Also you can massage your abs, really squeeze those muscles all over, especially near that pelvis bone and push your fingers in it until it hurts to stretch those tendons and also train your abs a little. You can do proper planks while pushing in those ribs like explained in those videos. You need to fully activate your core. Once a guy noticed my rib flare was gone and he was amazed because he's into this stuff too. Just don't get lazy or it will come back sometimes and it's annoying, you have to walk every day or every 2 days, if you lay in your bed all day or something then all your posture problems will start coming back after some time sadly and you will have to get your movement ability back, your body needs to get stronger or it will get muscle atrophy
>someday medical technology will have progressed to where everyone can have qtpa2t boifeet
I hope so, I want to transplant my brain to a Chad body or something but if they fixed my feet I would be extremely happy anyway, the foot fetish scientists need to work faster

>>17935978
Mine are even wider than this. I live in one of those cities where trendwatchers come to take photos of us just minding our business, going on about our lives, and turn whatever random shit to wear while we take out our trash into worldwide fashion trends. Eg. we turned Birkenstocks into something accepted on people who don't identify as grandmas. So don't worry /fa/, healthy shoes with enough space for toes and a hard sole are going to be in fashion soon. Bespoke shoes aren't necessarily expensive btw, so also look into finding a shoemaker.

Take the yeehaw pill

>>17935978
You got some fat ass ankles man

>>17938105
it's not a pill, it's a suppository.

Are my shoes /fa/?

>>17938607

>>17938608
Why did I check your undies expecting skid marks?

>>17933148

>>17938732
Aw sweet. Eating candy from feet is just what I needed

>>17938732
oink oink

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Alright, this one is a weird one. Have a family member who is in extreme pain when standing, and it is NOT plantar fasciitis, three doctors have agreed with that. But they haven't given a diagnosis other than one said "tight tendons" and no stretches. Paid out for custom expensive orthodontics and it just delays the pain, but it eventually comes in and is described as "torturous." They haven't been able to stand or walk large amounts since a young age. What stretches should we be pursuing, and should a neurologist be next?

>>17939773
nowhere on this site should you be seeking medical advice.
the fuck could we say that 3 doctors failed to say?

I prescribe murder-suicide.

>>17938732
Diabeetus feetus deletus

>>17932977
https://duckfeetusa.com/

>>17939800
Hey man, I figured I would try. Couldn't hurt at this point if anyone knew that it sounded like them or someone else and could help me give the advice to someone else.

>>17939773
Cant really give solid advice but orthotics are a bandaid solution and weaken foot muscles in the long run. could be a genetic thing or it could be a bad footwear history thing

I think these ones look pretty good without being too goofy

>>17939897
forgot pic

>>17938608
what brand

>>17939891
>orthotics are a bandaid solution and weaken foot muscles in the long run.
Is that also true of orthopedic footwear like birks?

>>17940345
not the same anon, but any shoe with an arch support is basically doing the job that your own arches should do.
So yeah, they weaken your feet, like walking with clutches weakens your legs.

>>17924363
Salomon

>>17934531
you're welcome.

you may get some pain as you walk in them, but it should be maybe a little soreness, not anything sharp, intense, or a limit in motion.

one of the ways that tendons strengthen is by being loaded in a stretched position, and barefoot shoes/barefoot maximizes that position as you walk (less/no heel rise), so over time they should get stronger.

>>17932542

>>17937494
>collapsed arches are very often related to having inwardly pointing knees
not a medical professional yet (student tho) and that makes sense if you try it. your feet flatten as you point your knees inward. that, coupled with shoes that don't require high activation the intrinsic muscles of your foot, they begin to atrophy, and your arch goes with it


>Basically, if you want to unfuck your feet, you often also have to unfuck your knees and hips.
100%. the foot follows the knee and hip, and the knee and hip follow the foot. Wrecked alignment there can even lead to neck and/or jaw issues, it's pretty gnarly.

what do you guys think of these?

>>17941585
Uncomfortable clown shoes.

>>17941585
vivos are still somehow the only decent looking barefoot shoes.

>>17941585
The shoes of a defeated man.

>>17939867
Have them see a sports doctor if they haven’t already. A good podiatrist should be fine, but sports doctors often deal with more unusual injuries/recovery procedures. Sounds like they might need some form of organized rehab versus just self-care stretching and exercise.
>>17939902
These are almost exactly what I want, I just wish is it was designed more traditionally rather than having a “modern” look.

>>17939773

have they ever developed ulcerations at their ankles, specifically the inner ankles?

i'm unsure as to how early venous insufficiency could occur in someone, maybe it can be congenital, but pain in standing could possibly be that, provided it's more than just the feet, and if it's relieved with the feet elevated

>>17935978
My man here is built like Wilson Fisk

>>17939773
If it’s tendon related, he might need some kinda surgery on them.

>>17938732
I will never understand footfags

>>17924363
Get those dorky looking new balances, it’s not the widest toe box but it’s better

>>17943056
It's like farting under your blanket and sniffing it, it stinks but it's addicting.
Similar to feet fetish but add to the olfactory stuff the visual paradox twist to it.

>>17943063

>>17943079
>It's like farting under your blanket and sniffing it, it stinks but it's addicting.

I don't think this is relatable as you think it is, anon

>>17938732
>>17943079
This gal is clearly fat

>>17939773
Tendons an you can start by having him massage the muscle surrounding the pain and then stretch as far as possible without pain

>>17943154
It's like scratching your ass and then sniffing your finger if you prefer. It's something everybody does.

>>17943373
You keep unwittingly picking shit examples, pun intended
A better comparison is how most people enjoy the smell of sex even though it's objectively a variation on BO stink.
Foot fetish is just a typical sexual development applied to the wrong body part, where it goes shame > interest > enthusiasm as you get older

Do you feet like this?

>>17924421
>Why do people want spread out toes and splayed feet

Stability

>>17943515

>>17925792
this, they were loose in the ankle when i tried but still squished up front
>t.bunionfag

>>17932542
oh no no no no no

>>17934544
didn't think anyone else here is like this, i am just like you kek. i do wear orthodics, and bounce back and forth from zero drop altras to new balance 990s. my feet are jacked
>bunions
>hammertoes
>extremely high arches

>>17939854
this do look nice

>>17932542
fucking hideous, outrageous even

>>17925792
a wide shoe like that with engineered knit will flex and allow the same splay as a barefoot. It it is made form other materials than probably just a midfoot thing and the toes will be cramped

You gotta suck toes to fix it

>>17938608
Shoes inside like an absolute animal

>>17943373
i guess something that is funky but something about it makes you repeat it, i gotcha

>>17929023
>gets btfo
>starts being racist
typical lmao

Anyone have any input on how to strengthen and raise the transverse arch? Mine is pretty flat, and everything I can find is on the main longitudinal one.

>>17944013
>gets btfo in life
>starts denying race
typical lmao

>>17944153
based on the main muscles that attach to the transverse arch what they do
- fibularis longus (does ankle eversion)
- tibialis posterior (plantarflexion and inversion)

you can do ankle eversion for fib longus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHyEHEwgc6A

and for tibialis posterior, you can do calve raises, and the same as that video, but with the foot inverting, instead.

>>17926314
>barefoot shoes are not a solution, they are a tool you use in conjunction with other tools to achieve health.

king of the thread. in moderation and progression, they may help alone if your issue is primarily at the lower body, but even then, at least occasionally doing strengthening and/or stretching exercises in problem areas combined with minimalist footwear for correction of walking mechanics and endurance building is the ideal way to go.

some people can go right into it without supplementation, but it can only help adding on additional work for strengthening and tissue extensibility in places that will need it during the transition

>>17943079
seek help

Bump

>>17932077
Some of these actually look nice. Flux seem to be the only one reasonable for walking around on pavement all day though.
>>17933073
>yeah, just buy these heavy, $500+ logging boots with massive heels
You're an idiot. I mean that honestly.

>>17946248
>recommend foot shaped shoes per poster's request
>get called an idiot

sorry you feel for the redditor zero drop meme but I was just answering the question

few non-barefoot shoes fit me well because I have very wide soles while most manufacturers make shoes for people with torpedo feet for some fucking reason

>>17924363
it doesn't exist. t's all zero drop vegan looking shit. >>17932542
it all looks like this
Altra has some interesting models

>>17935978
fatty

>>17926314
>Also fix your feet.
Valid. I made the transition in summer spending a lot of time walking around with no shoes. That worked really well for me.
People who get their feet destroyed by minimalist footwear usually overdo it, because they think they wear "healthy shoes" now.
You have to train to make the switch.
>>17932077
>Good recommendations
Thanks anon. Much appreciated.
>>17933087
>I don't like the boulder boot.
Understandable. I'm not a fan of MocToes, but I got them in brown and black for 38€ each so I have a lot of bias. These other Lems look really good.

>tfw feetsoles turn you more on than tits or ass
>on summertime it's literally similar like girls walking naked around with they flip flops or sandals

>>17946837
Iktf bro, but that said, did you post your own feet?

>>17947546

>>17947584
Very nice webm
I only asked because I didn't see the source tag until just now

anybody have the Primus lite III. im about to pull the trigger

Embrace German tourism. Minimalist sandals(with wool socks in winter) is the way to go.

I haven't wore tight shoes for decades and my big toe hurts like hell when I curl it to pull my neet slippers on. Not nice! Take the tight pill!

>>17936203
>>17938137
>>17942402
>>17946468
I'm a recovering rubenesque rotund. Down from 138kg to 98kg, but my legs haven't shrunk that much yet.
My calves are 21 inches, and my thighs are 26 inches. If this keeps up, I'll be walking around on tree trunks.

>>17938091
I couldn't care less about "fashion". My feet feeling better in the last eight months than they have in the 30 prior years is all I need.

>>17932483
You have to ease yourself into barefoot shoes just like any other novel exercise. Your foot muscles have atrophied and need to be built up.

I tried to run in barefoot shoes and it caused searing nerve pain in both feet. When I got in bed on the first night, my feet were burning and tingling like the soles were on fire. It's been a couple days of rest with light walking and stretching and they have been recovering but it was pretty scary, I thought I would have permanent nerve damage

>>17952891
I hope you learned your lesson.

>>17952894
I learned that I'll need to train slower than expected and be more cautious than I thought, but I wouldn't say I learned a lesson. My mindset, goals, and philosophy haven't changed.

>>17952891
>>17952900
Damn, son. I got my barefoot shoes in may, and it's only now my feet feels somewhat ready to start some light jogging.

>>17952905
It was about 2 or 3 weeks of walking around in them before I tried it. The word "run" is definitely a misnomer though, I was just doing brief periods of jogging in between stretches of walking. I didn't feel like I was going that hard so I was really surprised by the outcome. I'm hoping that this is not revealing an underlying permanent issue or deformity with my feet that I can't get past with exercise and stretching.

>>17952900
>I learned that I'll need to train slower than expected and be more cautious...
that is the lesson, and you (hopefully) have learned it.

I've been wearing barefoot shoes for 3 years, and even I do not run in them, I wear cushioned running shoes.

I would go as far as to say that running barefoot should either be your goal from beginning, knowing that it would be years before you can do it safely, or it shouldn't be done at all.

>>17952907
What kind of terrain do you run in?
I'm doing trail running, so while it really hits my legs hard, I'm not feeling the impacts as much.

>>17952910
>>17952911
Interesting, I'm surprised it is expected to take so long. I was running on flat pavement in the city when the bad thing happened.

>>17952960
I was put in wrong shoes my entire childhood, and continued to wear the wrong shoes as an adult. 34 fucking years until I found out about barefoot shoes (always prefered walking/running barefoot as a kid, and while at home), so yeah, there's some damage to be undone.
>flat pavement
Don't know about the thickness on your soles, but I'd get some shoes with a thicker soles for that. Mine are as thin as they can get, and I'd never run on pavement.

>>17952967
I'm only 28 but yeah my feet are pretty atrophied from a lifetime of shoes

>>17952960
see
>>17926314
>>17932898

>>17932898
You should add the thunder pose to those stretches. Especially if you do it while sitting on your toes.

>>17952988
that does look good, thank you.

if you can pull them off, Turkish leather shoes are barefoot shaped.

I don't really have a brand to recommend, they were recommended to me by a friend who buys secondhand.

>>17949537
I did it

>>17953352
HONK HONK

>>17953352
Konichiwa, dude!

>>17932483
makes total sense if you're used to wearing heeled footwear all day. by wering zero-drop shoes or goiing barefoot you will be stretching your achilles

the only truly footshaped shoes

https://www.earthingmoccasins.com/

in the beginning it looks terrible
but you get used to it

>>17954047
I mean, feet in sandals looks just fine. We just have to transfer that look onto closed footwear.

>Are there any footshaped shoes with cushioning?
Lems are pretty thick. Altra has lots of cushioning.

>>17932977
>Our feet were not designed for hard pavement.
What do you think is the point of foot arches? If the feet are free to toe splay naturally, there is lots of cushioning and dampening of force in the feet themselves.

>>17954047
these look interesting, I wonder if they use full grain leather

>>17942149
>designed more traditionally
For zero-drop shoes I've only come across these two brands that have a welted sewn construction
https://jimgreenfootwear.com/store/african-ranger-barefoot-boot-houston-brown/
https://conkershoes.com/about-conker/barefoot-shoes/

I bought earthrunners circadian barefoot sandals during the black Friday sale. I like them so far

>>17954077
stitch-down construction is a more correct term. picrel is conker shoes' barefoot chelsea model

>>17954071
https://www.earthingmoccasins.com/collections/leather
full-grain aniline leather

that store is particular in that it provides sewing kits with instructions and leather for people to sew their own shoes from self-made patterns. they do made-to-order, too.

>>17924363
Literally just wear sandals
I wore sandals for the last year fixed like 80% of my problems

Hard to see, but I believe these flats are stitched-down, too. From Drifter leather

>>17954101
It's also possible to wear sandals with thick wool socks. I do it at work. Max comfy. Warm, dry, full toe splay.

>>17954107
>/fa

is it possible to fix a bunion in the early stages without surgery?

>>17954232
I don't know about outright fixing, but the bunion on my right foot has certainly got better the last eight months I've worn barefoot shoes. No idea if it will actually be completely gone.

>>17954368
have you tried toe spacers?

>>17954077
those shoes look horrendous

>>17952070
>You have to ease yourself into barefoot shoes just like any other novel exercise. Your foot muscles have atrophied and need to be built up.

This 100%. When I initially started (about 5 months in), I went a little overboard trying to wear them to work, and had some knee fatigue. Shortening my step length, walking softer, and of course time improved this, as the feet and calves are going to adapt and strengthen over this period. I haven't felt it since.

>>17933076
>>17943517
They invented a thing called shoes for that.

>Amerimutts aren't barefoot inside the house
baka desu senpai

Are these shoes good for foot health? They're no drops but I have another pair and the toe box is way bigger than on these ones.

>>17959504
no they will give you foot cancer be careful hun x

>>17925357
They're ugly in a good way.

>>17960350
Thanks for the warning

>>17935400
This relates to America how?

>>17959504
>47
You're a big guy

>>17924421
personally, i like my feet to not hurt when i stand or walk.

>>17959504
I have a few whitins, and while they're not as good as my vivobarefoots, they're like 1/3 the price.
I wear them out in about 8 months, then they become beach shoes.

>>17955844
they help ease the pain from the pressure at the sides when walking downhill, but haven't really done anything to reverse the damage

i wear lems and softstar
vivos are too narrow, and also british

>>17959504
Some Whitins have been said to not have a wide toebox, and these look like one of the models that have a more narrow toebox

I've started with whitins and they've definitely challenged my feet and adaptation to barefoot shoes, they're even better with the insole out once you're ready to do so, IMO
- I have two pairs of these, and the toe box is wide https://www.amazon.com/WHITIN-Barefoot-Sneakers-Minimalist-Breathable/dp/B0BRN1GMXX/ref=sr_1_9?crid=2YD1LM19BM0IR&keywords=whitin%2Bshoes&qid=1704334293&sprefix=whitin%2Bshoe%2Caps%2C118&sr=8-9&th=1

>>17961524
This is my other pair of wide toes, which is what got me suspicious of the whitins. Maybe my feet are just slim though because I feel there is lots of room in both pairs

>>17962532
no, whitins have wide and narrow profiles, I have these ones, with a more barefoot profile.

>>17954077
I just bought a pair of these. I have big stupid clown feet and I am tired of pretending I don't. That and I have been working from home bare foot for the last year and a half and my feet have gotten real W I D E.