/fa/ - Fashion

>>17913134
You braindead no offense

Literallt wear 19th century clothes for males in black.
Cause that's what wednesday wears. 19th century clothes for girls in black.

>>17913134
This is literally just dark academia but really focusing on the dark colors

>>17913134
Just dress like Ian Curtis

just wear normal clothes in different tones of black

>>17913181
Thank you
>>17913250
I didn't know the name for it thank you
>>17913275
I'll check him out
>>17913279
Good idea thank you

>>17913134
Look up your favorite goth artists' personal instagrams, and take a look at what they're wearing in their vacation photos.

>>17913134
Arizona
Goth

You gonna die boy

>>17913134
Arizona goth? You must become albino goth to survive the heat. Same clothes, but pure lily white.

>>17913134
AZ black metal retard here. Its brutal out here for us folks, wearing pants on those 115 degree days takes a certain kind of dedication that would kill a lesser man, its pretty much tshirt and shorts exclusive weather 8/12 months of the year.

I used to be a fully goth weirdo who'd shave his eyebrows and wear makeup lol I'm thinking about bringing some of it back, atleast dying my hair and shaving my eyebrows off again, I kind of liked looking like an alien kek

>>17913966
The sad thing about this community is it's the female singers that give me the most aesthetic inspiration, yet I can never figure out how to do a version of it that would work for me as a guy.
>>17914273
Nah, it's gotta be black. Especially since I'm pale af so pure lily white would make me a ghost. I lived in Florida for a bit as well, and in an entire year there I never tanned or burned even a little lol To be fair I don't spend a ton of time outside until the sun is down desu
>>17914405
That's fine. I'm skinny as hell and heat doesn't usually bother me too much. I was in Arizona a few months ago when it was warmer than it is now, so I know I can handle the heat. I'll probably go short sleeves for sure for the top but I think I can handle jeans. Maybe something like picrel if the shirt is a thin enough material?
>>17914813
lmao do what you want man. If you enjoy it why not

>>17915160
>>17914405
Meant to post with picrelated

I think I'm starting to get an idea for a direction to take this in

>>17913134
>I've always been attached to goth culture and aesthetics
>all the ideas I see online just look like dudes larping at a renaissance fair

Then surely you would know that Goth as a clothing style, has many sub genres within it...

If you don't wanna look like a larper, keep it basic. From black chinos with long sleeves black tee / shirt and some black boots. Simple and clean. To more adult like black grey pants, pref pleated for an 80s style, with a shirt or sweater.

>>17915226
Clownish breh..

>>17913134
>>17915226
And this is e-boy btw dude. Even that trend is dated now.

Nothing beats classical menswear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgllCOQb1Rg

>>17915268
I'm in college, not gonna overdress.
>>17915256
That shit's boring as fuck. Why do we even bother having a fashion board. "Just wear a black shirt and black jeans". Being a guy fucking sucks, feels like we don't have any options

>>17915271
Because you didn't want larp goth, but really, you should dress what sub genre of goth interests you. Because at one point someone might talk to you about it, and you wanna attract people you have things in common with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xkpKd0qivY

>>17915277
I listen to a little bit of a bunch of different styles of goth music and a lot of different kinds of music and interests in general. I'm just looking for something that stands out as distinctly goth in a way that still looks suitable for day to day life like going to class or walking around town. Something subtle but tasteful, but just wearing all black is perhaps a bit too subtle. Lacks anything that stands out as specifically goth, as anyone of any culture can just wear black

>>17915286
Almost all goths look semi normal clothes wise, even the bands in day to day life, the only thing that makes some stand out is the haircut, or the facial makeup.

Like rivethead or industrial goth is basically all black, but with some fancy pieces, belts that stand out, big boots and so on. People certainly will know what you're into then.

Even a band shirt with basic blacks would lift it up a little.

>>17915289
I'm not opposed to simple, but I would like to have options to mix it up a bit as well. Was looking for something slightly preppy. A lot behind this thread is me being jealous of Wednesday Addams and that girls can dress like that and tastefully pull off a borderline victorian look without larping. I'm basically looking for a tasteful male equivalent to it.

>>17915300
Then pinstripe pants, but not big, like in your pic, subtle pinstripe, black shirts, dress boots, and you could throw on a blazer or black wool jacket. That would be a modern type victorian style for a guy. If the jacket is a black or grey wool sports coat, it will add that prep look in.

>>17915306
Can you post an example of the size pinstripes you mean? The pants I picked out were sort of giving homage to Gomez Addams

true goth aesthetic isn't an outfit
its more like a perpetual thousand yard stare, the kind of tired sleep can't fix.

>>17915316
I've got that already daily sadly

>>17915300
Again, check Ian Curtis. Can't beleive you wanna be goth and don't know Joy Division.
>black, purple or grey button shirt, can be short sleeve
>black or grey trousers, chinos or pleated
>black oxfords, black socks
You can get all of that in light fabrics. I guess you won't need a coat in AZ, but perhaps you can wear a light wool sweater in black a couple of months per year

>>17915319
I know Joy Division, I just never paid any attention to his fashion before. As for your suggestions, they seem to be in line with what I'm thinking in regards to black oxfords with chinos. I'll probably wear plenty of button shirts, though I'm trying to think of other types that might be alright to wear.

Dark grey/black linen button-up shirts. Black leather flip-flops.

>>17915354
Honestly great advice, thank you. Linen button up is perfect

>>17915319
wtc oxfords

>>17915316
the hair also helps

>>17913134
>Pic related
That's not goth fashion op.
That's emo fashion.

>>17913134
As someone who's been visiting the WGT as a regular since over 20 years,
partly to laugh about all the larpers there I can give you some advise.
In order for me to help you you've gotta answer some questions first.
First of all "goth" isn't a monolithic subculture but an umbrella term for different communities that are drawn to the darker side of life and fascinated by death. Despite it mostly being the case this doesn't have to be a musical affiliation but can also concern literature, art or philosophy.
>What species of goth subculture do you identify most with? I've listed a few so you can choose.
If you can't tell just namedrop your ten favorite bands. Can be artists, writers or philosophers aswell but music is the easiest way to identify it.
>Darkwave
>Industrial
>Goth Rock
>Batcaver
>Post Punk
>Neofolk
>BDSM/Fetish
>Shoegaze
>Medieval
>EBM
>Endzeitromantiker/Neue Deutsche Todeskunst
>Schwarzromantiker
>Metal (which substyle? Black Metal, Dark Metal, Doom Metal, Gothic Metal, ...)
>Dungeon Synth
>Visual Kei
>Horrorpunk
>Cyber Goth
Second question:
>What's your physique? How tall, fit, thin/fat are you?
As always in fashion It's basically impossible to give proper advise without knowing these factors.
>How old are you?
There are some styles you just won't be able to pull off at a certain age. Either because you're too young to make it work or because you've passed a certain treshhold. A twenty something person larping as an oldschool 80s Grufti for example will come off as a tryhard and well larpy.
>How deep are you into the "goth" rabbithole?
For how long have you been into the music? How often to you attend concerts, gatherings or festivals? Are your friends in the scene too? Is it a big part of your daily life and your identity or did you just recently fell for the doomer meme and want to score a big tiddy goth gf?
>What hairstyle do you have or are you aiming for?
It's a major part of the look.

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>>17915405
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Besides that I can give you some general advice that goes for all subcultures. Being goth isn't so much a musical, political, philosophical or artistic preference as it is a state of mind. Depression, insomnia and a certain social anxiety are among the most common symptoms of this mentality. If you're not a poser you should naturally have dark circles under your eyes already and pale skin because you avoid the sun. A somewhat sickly overall appearance can also help. Look like someone who recently had a little too much blood drawn. You can fake this using makeup but it's much cooler if it comes off as a side effect from being in a constant existential crisis. Oh also always cover your eyes with sunglasses when outside even if teh sun is just barely shining. And the most important thing DON'T SMILE! NEVER! (at least not when someone is watching)

PS: don't refer to yourself as "goth" it will make you look like a scene tourist just say you're a "sad bastard" or some shit.

>>17913382
>goth
>only now checking out Ian curtis

>>17913134
>blah blah Arizona blah blah wish I was Wednesday Adams blah blah blah

Bruh. You're moving to Arizona, obviously you need to dress cow-goth (best goth) or at least psychobilly. How has this not even come up yet? /fa/ I am disappointed.

>>17915405
Not that guy, but do me!
>Industrial rock, al la Chemlab and Gravity Kills
>EBM
>Aggrotech
>Electro-industrial

>6ft, 200lbs, about 15-17%bf

>36

>been into the music for about 20 years. Was a punk-rock kid before that. Used to see a few shows a month but now I live too far from the city and only have time to see a couple shows a year. My friends are more into metal and techno.

>currently buzzcut, because it fits with my hairline and blue collar job.

Dark Academia and NeoFolk are better looks for men who like gothic fashion imo. DA is more studious/professional and NF is more outdoorsy, so you look a bit less awkward in public. Just opt for a more normal, toned down DA and/or NF.

>>17915389
True. I guess I would say "goth-adjacent", and will include other styles that fit under a similar umbrella even if it's not exactly goth per say.
>but an umbrella term for different communities that are drawn to the darker side of life and fascinated by death
This has always described me. Growing up on Bauhaus, Siousxie and the Banshees, Sisters of Mercy etc. reading Dracula, watching Tim Burton etc. etc. will do that to you.

>If you can't tell just namedrop your ten favorite bands. Can be artists, writers or philosophers aswell but music is the easiest way to identify it.
I listen to some Darkwave like VNVnation or Chrom, some Industrial like NIN, Ministry, Rammstein, Angelspit. Some post punk and new wave, New Order, Joy Division, The Cure. Some goth rock, Sisters of Mercy, Type O Negative, Bauhaus of course. Lots of metal, typically proggrier stuff like Opeth, Tool, some thrash metal like Megadeth and Metallica. I'm quite varied which is why I'm not worried about which subgenre I dress as, as long as it looks good.

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>>17915405
>What's your physique? How tall, fit, thin/fat are you?
I'm a 5 10 ectomorph with long thin arms and legs. I'm an athlete and will be regularly training Muay Thai and Jiu Jitsu once I've moved, but I don't anticipate that I'll be able to put on much muscle very quickly so I'll probably remain on the thinner side. If it helps you visualize I'm also quite pale.
>How old are you?
26 and going back to college, but when I shave clean these 18 year olds think I'm one of them lol I'm sort of a stealth moder I guess cause I look fairly young. To be on the safe side we'll say I present early 20s.
>For how long have you been into the music?
My dad introduced me to most of the bands I listed above, so I grew up on this stuff. It's been with me all my life, I just never took the time to do the aesthetic part of the culture, but I'm deciding to do that.
>How often to you attend concerts, gatherings or festivals?
I'm pretty anti social and don't leave the house much, but I've attended some Azar Swan and used to go to the Out of the Shadows festival down in Portland.
>Are your friends in the scene too?
No, and after I move I won't know anyone in town. That being said I'm looking to be myself anyways, and I'm sure I'll make friends with time.
>Is it a big part of your daily life and your identity
Of course it is. I grew up on this, and the draw to the darker side you mentioned above has always been with me. That being said I am unironically a doomer, and a qt goth gf would be fine with me lol but those aren't my motivations.
>What hairstyle do you have or are you aiming for?
Picrelated, second from the left with the black hair looks similar to my hair. Mine is currently dark brown already, but I'll probably dye it jet black at some point.

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>>17915863
This post was intended to respond to >>17915405 though it does address the same point that I've been perhaps a bit lazy with my labeling, when I say goth I typically mean goth adjacent and usually anything pertaining to the various subcultures that are drawn to and identify with the macabre, and that would include perhaps others like emo, or dark academia etc. Basically as long as it has a darker aesthetic to it
>>17915407
>Being goth isn't so much a musical, political, philosophical or artistic preference as it is a state of mind
I'm aware, and if you knew me irl and got to know me you'd have no question that I embody this.
>Depression, insomnia and a certain social anxiety are among the most common symptoms of this mentality.
I have all of these lol that's why I'm moving desu because the northwest is actually kind of fucking my psyche up a bit. I grew up here and have been here too long
>and pale skin because you avoid the sun.
I lived in Florida for a year and never once got a burn or a tan. You tell me lol
>A somewhat sickly overall appearance can also help
I have that a bit desu though I'm looking to work on it through exercise and better health decisions
> but it's much cooler if it comes off as a side effect from being in a constant existential crisis.
Unironically me
>Oh also always cover your eyes with sunglasses when outside even if teh sun is just barely shining
I'm moving to Arizona so it always will be
>don't refer to yourself as "goth" it will make you look like a scene tourist just say you're a "sad bastard" or some shit
I don't tend to label myself. Everyone in this thread is probably painfully aware by now that I don't even label things correctly anyways
>>17915480
Just because I may listen to a band doesn't mean I've spent time checking out all of their fashion trends. By checking out, this is in the fashion sense. In the music sense I've checked out his stuff plenty since a long time ago

>>17915559
I don't think this would suit me, as I'm not a cowboy in any capacity. Dark academia for summer weather would probably work though, as it would fit my aesthetic, my personality and also where I'm at in life (a student, math major specifically).
>>17915581
Welcome to the thread :) Wouldn't mind this becoming a general if people like you want to come in and brainstorm some styles

>>17915889
DA is a F/W aesthetic

>>17915892
I'm not sure I know what a F/W aesthetic is. Could you explain?

>>17915892
Oh you meant Fall/Winter. My bad, took me a second. I definitely noticed this because it relies heavily on layering, though there must be some sort of summer equivalent (after some modifications) even if it might be called something different

this thread is mega retarded

>>17915913
Thanks for your time, keep thinking about us!

>>17915909
The spring summer version is just choosing lighter colors, lighter fabrics, and fewer layers. More tan and less brown. More linen and less wool. Fewer sweaters and tweed blazers over an oxford and more just an oxford with rolled sleeves.

>>17915941
Is there a way to do this in black?

I remember someone posting a schill thread for some gothic clothing website that was like a couple of letters and numbers, does anyone know what im talking about?

>>17913134
w2c this entire fit?

>>17916803
No clue, I just found this image online. I suppose it's considered dark academia though
>>17916605
Don't know either but if you end up finding it please post it here, because I'd like to know

>>17915163
Man I wish I could find decent quality sweaters with an oversized fit like that. Everywhere I look the sweaters are fitted.

I can't remember the person or anything, but I remember seeing a tweet from a literal goth girl saying that goth should be a female only thing, and guys trying to be goth are just ick, or something to that effect.

That should tell you a lot about how successful you'll be at this.

>>17918484
A woman said in a tweet somewhere that any man not getting his balls crushed gives her the ick. Gotta keep up with X (formally know as Twitter).

>>17918484
Women say all sorts of silly things. Only a fool takes them seriously.

>>17913134
>>17914222
>>17914273
>>17914405
Thank god someone (>>17915559) brought up cowboy goth. AZ is literally the best place to do this.

>>17915268
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AvuweztG4Q
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UrfFHzqGBZI&pp=ygUJI2JhYXVoYXVz
agreed

>>17918484
OP here. Who gives a fuck what women think? lol Be hot and she changes her mind. If you're not hot she just wants you to die anyways. It literally doesn't matter what some literal who on twitter "thinks" about anything
>>17919048
this
>>17919147
It's a cool look. I just don't think it'd suit me. >>17915889 For these reasons

>>17918484
Goth, as every subculture out there, was invented by men, but sure, let's allow some retarded roastie dictate what's acceptable and what's not.

>>17919960
Agreed, but to be fair if you're actually trying to pick up goth girls you will have more success if you dress in a more goth-adjacent style like rivethead or metal.

>>17918361
>No clue, I just found this image online. I suppose it's considered dark academia though

I was looking for this image!

If I recall, it is a darkwave band, South American, Mexico I believe.

Extremely based fit. This is what I mentioned earlier regarding pleated pants.

>>17919872
that is hot asf. I'd marry.

>>17919960
it only looks good on twinks and women. In rare cases, hunks look good in it, so she's right.
Punk isnt goth btw

>>17915160
All white is more based though

>>17913134
Black button up or lace up shirts made of breathable fabrics, casual black trousers, silver jewellery/accessories.

>>17913134
Sort of on topic, how does one dress punk or alternative as a man in hot weather?

>>17915316
"The Cure" aesthetic in '80s would also be top of the list.

>>17913134
ID on that ribbed sweater?

>>17915559
>>17919147
Cowgoth best goth

>>17921263
cool shirt, it's hard to find stuff that doesn't look like a cheap costume