/fa/ - Fashion

I WANT FUCKING ROPERS MAN GOD

I had a dream I bought C&J Snowdons. But I noticed that the welt stitching had torn the upper leather to pieces. So I decided to look further into it and pushed the upper and and midsole apart a little bit more and saw that the entire boot was being held together internally by a bunch of those plastic clips that you use to attach shower curtains to the pole.

Should I reconsider buying the boots?

>>17890263
we both know you have no roper ready fits

>>17890269
C&J really has fallen harder than the west

>>17890272
I LITERALLY do. I swear that I do. I absolutely do. One of my fits literally and specifically inspired me to want ropers actually.

Ill repost this pic from another thread justo to say that i consider these boots oficially broken-in.

They felt comfy but hard af, but after 5 days of moderate/intense use, they are now just fantastic.

Meermin corodovans btw.

>>17890263
Check out JK boots, they've been teasing tf out of some new western line on their IG lately
nothing released yet

>>17890314
impressive
>Meermin corodovans
got a closeup?

>>17890316
Pic rel. Just off and drying.

>>17890313
Anonski, I'm a yuropoor. They don't deliver here. I would have had a pair already. The only ones that deliver either don't have a man's size and color, are literal trash, or are too expensive. Ariat don't deliver black ones to yurop for whatever reason. One of those meme websites like bootbarn or whatever don't stock size 11s, and they also sell garbage brands. Thursday released a pair of ropers somewhat recently, although those are literal shit and reddit. Chisos are too expensive when you add the shipping and import taxes, and also have that annoying red line accent on the heel for no reason at all. I'm literally cursed I can't get a pair of decent black size 11 ropers. I literally have to travel to the US to get a pair. What's worse is that I had a chance to travel to Wilmington for work but I thought it wasn't worth it at the time. What a fucking waste man. I would have been able to literally walk into a store and found the perfect pair that was made just for me. I want to die.

>>17890314
>>17890330
looks significantly less glossy than horween shell

>>17890338
tecovas?

>>17890344
Anon I've checked literally every single website you could think of. It's fully over for me.

>>17890340
Probably so, but consider also that i dont try to mirror shine them.

For reference, I use the Meermin cream and a mix of no color and black cheap-ass polish for them.

>>17890338
then why do you spam every thread with your shit if you're never going to buy anything

These were my first choice too. Literally perfect in every category. Correct color. Correct heel height. Correct shaft height. Correct toe shape. No gay frills. 300 bucks is just fine. But noooo. Of course they wont ship to yurop. Sigh.

>>17890363
Freedom of speech, bitch. What you gonna do about it?

>>17890367
no freedom of speech for europoors

>>17890367
>Freedom of speech
nice try europoor that's an American privilege
like ropers :^)

>>17890376
>>17890379
Call the police I don't give a fuck.

>>17890381
i bet a warm prison bed and a free meal would do you good this winter

>>17890381
enjoy gulag

>>17890330
Looks alright, rocado i guess. I'm more interested in how it ages with more time.

Not a boot but I wore my new split toes for the first time yesterday.

I went double sole because honestly no one cares and it's so much more comfy.

I think these might actually be my best fitting shoes so far. Only thing I'm worried is that the facings touch when I lace them tightly, I wonder how that will evolve once the footbed sinks in. Might need a tongue pad?
For now it's very secure and comfy though, the instep is not loose at all.

>>17890338
>Ariat don't deliver black ones to yurop for whatever reason.
They do.

>>17890391
Not ropersb

>>17890393
nodr brorterbs

>>17890393
>>17890391
Read the fine print. There's a uk website/distributor or some shit (still not EU), but all they have is browns.

>>17890391
This also has the ugly toe, isn't a roper, and also delivers to the gay countries and not mine.

>not ropers

>>17890428
Yeah those clearly aren't ropers. They're woman's heel zipper boots.

Out of all of the schizos we have: Europe pointy only boots, sewn in Dominican Republic, tranny heel, White’s shills, waxed flesh fetish, Ropers etc. I loved the C*RK schizo the most. What happened to him? I miss him.

>>17890365
>Of course they wont ship to yurop
use a ship forwarding address
I'd bet they wont sperg out like whites and ghost you

>>17890434
c*rkschizo is a whiteshill that quietly dropped it after being presented with cork in whites crossection

>>17890443
Lmao. Was it the cork in the MP that took him out?

>>17890441
I could, but those are sketchy, extra cost, and by the time I get them, it will be spring. Maybe next year.

>>17890434
the sewn in DR and whiteshill are the same person

>>17890450
nibba what kind of services are you looking at
I get my stuff in 1 week max after they get it

>>17890466
(he's here to complain incessantly instead of forking out the cash to get exactly what he wants)

>cork
>in White's MP
i wish, no, DEMAND better anti white's shills

why lie about something so easily refuted

>>17890469
I'd sooner set the money on fire
why cant they just answer a fucking email?
what a backwards, pine humping, wildfire setting boot company

>>17890426
What the fuck is a roper then ?

>>17890477
because you did sus shit like shipping address not matching the billing address

and when you've proven yourself untrustworthy to deal with, why deal with you at all?

you're like that tinfoil schizo screaming about flat earth while everyone ignores you

>>17890469
Exactly what I want doesn't deliver here retard.

>>17890466
I'll think about it next year. Too late this one. I wonder if returns exist with shipping services. Assuming they don't fit and all. Ordering boots online and not trying them on is kinda fucked.

Damn bro I saw the green kudu nubuck boots, looks sick

>>17890479
This >>17890365. Smaller shaft. Smaller heel.

>>17890480
I already told you they matched retard

>>17890482
>I wonder if returns exist with shipping services.
mine processes returns with no hassle but I've never had to send back boots

>>17890474
>>17890447
White’s MP has a layer of cork towards the front. Maybe it’s to prevent squeaking?
15:53
https://youtu.be/wwumgXMAoqA?feature=shared

>>17890434
Damm, I made it to the list

>>17890391
Who will tell the slav schizo that whichever shithole country he's from is not actually Europe?

>>17890451
That’s so confounding. Why would he shill the company then say brown hands touched the uppers?

>have a pair of black oxfords that are too small and tight but work fine for the occasional formal event that lasts a few hours
>suddenly business trip comes out of nowhere
>it's in a city with a LOT of walking
>I'll probably have to wear my oxfords 15 hours a day for 2 days straight

>>17890269
>I had a dream I bought C&J Snowdons
I never have dreams but last week I dreamed about the waitress at the restaurant in the office building.
She's way older than me. I'm not even straight.

>>17890580
Grant stone are having their sale and their oxfords are comfy. Make sure you confirm your size with customer service

>>17890534
It's a rubber layer to prevent the raw leather on leather squeaking

>>17890580
It's over

What about super thin socks

>>17890590
that ain't rubber, but i might actually prefer a small rubber layer. All my boots on the Vibram that goes all the way to the edge and needs a rubber midsole to cement on properly are extremely comfy.

>>17890588
I'm in Europe.

I've been putting off getting a pair of good fitting oxfords from TLB, now there's not enough time to get a custom pair made (width).
Oh well.

>>17890594
It's rubber, Eric confirmed it in an interview

>>17890595
have a shoe maker or cobbler stretch them, should be done within a day for cheap. Can also ask for a mirror shine.

>>17890602
Its obviously not rubber in that boot.

>>17890606
Could be an early production where they experimented with cancer canvas before settling on rubber

Surely you aren't doing this, right anon?

>>17890618
I do, and I won't stop because I like it.

>>17890618
I don't cuff my jeans like a faggot no

>>17890618
>real men real style
I kek every time when I see another REAL man. Like dude why are you trying to appear manly so hard, are you insecure about not being masculine enough?

DO I LIKE THE BRASS BOOTA OR NOT
fuck. they look terrible in some pics but so good in others

>>17890665
you don't.
t. has a pair that i am planning to sell

>>17890668
SHOW ME IT

>>17890665
You'll like it until you look at it

>>17890665
I get compliments on my black brass boots all the time by normies and ask where I got them from. I think viewing straight down is a bit awkward but at angles and side profiles it looks good. Idk about the other colors but black is the best looking imo. Good boot for the winter, I wear it casually, to dinners, and sometimes to the office

>>17890665

>>17890690
>I think viewing straight down is a bit awkward but at angles and side profiles it looks good.
That's how I feel about most boots.

>>17890697
The vertical piece just extends way too far back

Daily reminder that toe caps are ugly and gay and you don't need them and you look like a weird cunt.

>>17890718
cool how bout I pull up to your house and shit on your welcome mat you soft little bitch

>>17890720
lol
lmao even

White's Boots up to 30% off 16 and 17 November

>>17890665
i always find them ugly.

>>17890718
post boots

>>17890739
>>17888751

>>17890718
>ugly and gay and you don't need them and you look like a weird cunt
And you're maidenless, let's not forget about that.

>>17890741
>IR
guess you're ugly and gay and look like weird cunt

>got two separate compliments on wesco boss today
>one of them pulls their phone out and start looking them up

>>17890745
why I don't wear them anymore

>>17890734
How do you know

>>17890749
I am White.
Also fuck Tom the DR schizo, we make all our boots 100% in Spokane.

>>17890748

>>17890753
I'd give them away, but they've been OBENAUF'd so they probably don't have enough pAtINa for /btg/

>>17890749
they did a story on IG

>>17890734
16 - 27 Nov*

new boots look better than boots with patina
not that patina looks bad, a new boot just looks better

Thoughts on the Bearfoot Bruin?

>>17890766
barefoot is gay unless you're going with handsewn leather moccasins

>>17890768
this

>>17890734
based, hopefully these are discounted
seem like the most comfortable option for daily wear

>>17890747
Post pics, I've been thinking of ordering a pair myself. Do you have any complaints on them?

>>17890647
There is an insane amount of insecure men that eat this slop up.

>>17890776
no complaints, 10/10 engineer imo

i even prefer it over the my JL engineers

>>17890776
next to the JL

>>17890776
wescos on foot

>>17890776
JL on foot

>>17890782
>>17890780
>>17890777
Handsome boots. I've had the Black Bear horsehide version in the back of my head for some time now.

>>17890787
i think that has a different toe to my 7500 Boss, mine are none celastic MP toe. The black bears are celastic round toes

>buy boots
>don't know what to wear with them

>>17890816
Tee and jeans
Oxford and chinos
Jacket

>>17890816
heavy wools in the winter

Just ordered a pair of ready to wear Role Clubs. How retarded am I?

>>17890823
you'll be the first in this general with role clubs. post plenty of pics when you get them

>>17890825
They should be arriving next week, I’ll be on here. It looks like Brian is now finally selling a consistent supply of black engineers. The issue I had with him before is his long wait times, inconsistent pricing, and $1000 reservation fee. Now that he has ready to wear engineers for sale I said fuck it I’m going for it

>>17890830
I am very surprised that he can produce enough to make an RTW line

unless his MTOs dried up which i doubt

>>17890823
I don't know they look great. Why would you be retarded?

>>17890165
Whites Perry select, work with your Dr and Whites to see what size boot you need, from my understanding orthopedic insoles are much larger than normal insoles you can buy at any store.

>>17890819
>Tee and jeans
I do this now but I'm a lanklet so tees look a little weird on me
>Oxford and chinos
fuck... time to spend more money
>>17890821
>heavy wools in the winter
South Florida

>>17890843
Make sure the chinos are high or at least mid rise so that you can tuck the oxford in. No low rise skinny chinos. Regular straight or slim straight, perhaps also avoid slim taper since legs end up looking like carrots imo

>>17890832
I can actually imagine his MTO drying up. His wait times have been decreasing

>>17890833
I dropped $2300 on these

>>17890867
Hey man fuck it. Money is just money. I would too but I barely go outside, and I can't wear boots during warm weather, which further limits my boot usage. These look really good though. I'm hoping the quality is 2k tier as well. Kind of gay that they insist on stamping their shitty logo on the boot but oh well.

>>17890870
I have been deciding on whether to get some Role Clubs or Clinch engineers. They both have very different designs, but both seem to be at the top of the game. It’s just almost impossible to get a pair of Clinch because they rarely ever go on sale and they usually sell out immediately. The role clubs happened to be available so I said fuck it. One of the best looking engineers, also one of the few hand welted engineers on the market

>>17890867
>I dropped $2300 on these

>>17890867
>I dropped $2300 on these
bro...

>>17890876
Yolo. You gotta get a pair of ropers next.

>so many styles of boots
>so many sweet leathers
>cost a fortune
>never fucking go anywhere anyway
I live in constant mental anguish over the boots I want to buy and barely wear

>>17890940
>want casual boots
>dont have anywhere to wear them
>cant wear them to work

>>17890823
Role Clubs are sexy, but how can they justify charging more than twice as much as Whites or Nicks? How are they $1000 better?

>>17890823
hopefully for $2300 your boots don't get loose grain out the ass, because we all know more money=more better quality

>>17890832
yeah i don't know why his MTO would be drying up bro

>>17890974
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye0xG_QUI0A

>>17890966
there is no loose grain on this boot

>>17890823
good luck anon, i really hope you get a pair that doesn't have any of his recent qc issues.

>>17890981
yes, yes, we know, Nick Horween deboonked loose grain years ago, checkmate Creasetians

>>17890991
i mean its not. its just shit creasing but it doesnt even look bad
use double shot next time idk

>>17890974
These actually look kind of sick though

>>17890948
They aren’t $1000 better, but that’s what happens with any hobby or interest when you start to purchase items that are ranked at the upper echelon of quality. In other words, Role Clubs are a perfect example of diminishing returns. For sure they have a perfect shape and silhouette, have great stitching, and are hand welted, but they really aren’t $1000 more in quality compared to Whites. It’s just that Brian knows he has a perfect looking engineer that is one of the few hand welted engineers on the market, so he can charge what he wants. Iron Heart isn’t $150 more in quality compared to other Japanese or American denim brands, but they know that they have a perfected product and are free to charge whatever they want

to be fair i think role club charges high prices to keep customers low

>>17890821
beautiful pants, what pants are these?

>>17891003
https://divisionroadinc.com/collections/motivmfg/products/swiss-army-cargo-trousers-abraham-moon-coal-merino-twill

>>17891007
Such a sucker for crazy wool pants, those look awesome!

>>17891032
based. wished other took the woolpill

>>17891034
They stopped allowing you to put cap toes on those boots.
Didn't get a chance to buy one before that.
Now I never will.

>>17891036
i warned you about waiting bro

>>17891038
I was broke and jobless college student lol.
Just got a job this month.

>>17891039
They must be running low on the leather if they're not allowing captoes

>>17891041
Could be the case, they also aren't allowing lace to toes.
Hopefully that is the case and once they get more in stock they'll allow it again.

>>17891036
>>17891042
what is even the point of a custom bounty hunter you cant customize?
spokane is a mess

>>17891045
restriction is only on this special W&C oiled latigo, like I said they're probably running low on it

>>17891000
honestly iron heart really is in their own league in a way that role clubs just aren't

iron heart UHF shirts really are twice as nice as UES flannels.

>>17891007
i just want heavyweight wool pleated trousers without the extra pockets/cargo

>>17891002
Isn't Role Club just Brian making boots by hand in between his daily cobbler job? I would charge that much too if I was in that situation.

>>17890434
>Europe pointy only boots
Euro here, I hate how true this is.

>>17890940
>>17890943
The key is to go on incel waljs everyday

>>17891210
Europe pointy boots only schizo anon here: thanks, but lets not open that can of wprms again

>>17891215
Go into any upscale shoe store here in EU, and you can choose between either cemented round toes, or stitched pointy toes.

>>17891218
I know, I'm euro. But to be fair, a couple of brands have been dabbing into american style workwear/heritage type boots lately. But those I know of are more entry level rather than high end.

>>17891220
Euros need our own whites here, it’s so unfair. I want all leather construction with a leather shank for arch support

>>17891221
>Whites
I'd seriously prefer just some nice GYW round-toe boots with nice thick leather.

>>17891222
>thick leather
for what? Its just less comfortable to wear.

>>17891246
Until it breaks in.
Then it's far longer-lasting and better looking.

>>17891247
>Then it's far longer-lasting and better looking.
citation needed, calf has higher tensile strength and creases much better.

>>17891248
Full-grain cow or horse leather lasts far longer, and creases in a much more pleasant way.
Calf is for women.

>>17891250
>lasts far longer
citation needed
>creases in a much more pleasant way
i'd like to see any steer hide crease as finely as boxcalf
>heavy boots thick leather boots
literally just less comfortable for your walks to the grocery store and office for no reason, you also look like a fool.

>>17891222
I’d loved for us to have something like Alden or Grant Stone where they would do different styles/lasts with EE and EEE equivalent widths

>>17891221
While I wish a bootmaker wpuld, I doubt there's enough market for that type of boots here. I can see brands like Urban Shepherd growing with a bigger selection and better marketing, but doubt +600 heritage type boots being in much demand.
Red Wing has the market cornered here and they're considered expensive already for their target customers. People in Europe don't spend over 500 on clothes and shoes unless is designer stuff.
Top this off with a severe lack of competent cobnlers, so resoling said boots, which is one of their selling points, is a hassle.
One can always dream, though.

>>17890611
The texture is granulated, which is that of cork. Not rubber, not canvas, not coprerino.

>>17891255
Most european bootmakers have just as many or more lasts and styles than Alden do, let alone Grant Stone.
>>17891256
>Top this off with a severe lack of competent cobnlers, so resoling said boots, which is one of their selling points, is a hassle.
I have all my work on my boots done by a bespoke shoemaker. That's fairly common in continental europe instead of "cobblers". Assuming the bootmaker themselves don't offer rebuilding in the first place.

>>17890784
Faggot

>>17890819
>Oxford and chinos
Death penalty

>>17891254
>crease as finely
That's the thing, I don't want "fine creases" in my rounded chunky boots.
I want thicker, stiffer leather for my big boots. It handles scuffs and scratches better (being twice as thick), and creases in a much more ruggedly pleasing way.
Calfskin is for things like chelseas.

>>17891263
*wears his new boots for 5 seconds*
FUAARKK thats some manly creasing!
>I want thicker, stiffer leather for my big boots
So you want less comfortable boots, got it.
>It handles scuffs and scratches better (being twice as thick)
What do scuffs and scratches have to do with the thickness of the leather lmao. That's more dependent on the tannage, like the durability of the leather.

>>17891210
>>17891215
>>17891218
>>17891221
They exist and I would gladly gatekeep you zoomer retards who cant bother to look outside your shittown out of them.

Now this is a PROPER boot, european bootmakers should learn.

>>17891264
>>17891266
Nice troll

>>17891265
>They exist
Obviously, but they're rare as hen's teeth.
You have to order them online somewhere, at which point you may as well buy US-made boots.

>>17891264
>>17891266
You seem upset

>>17891260
>I have all my work on my boots done by a bespoke shoemaker.
That's different from having a widely available brand.

>>17891265
You're right, a quick search yielded at least two brands that qualify.

>>17891280
>That's different from having a widely available brand.
He doesn't make my boots, he resoles my boots from any brand. Its a side gig, most bespoke makers don't have the backlog that the really popular ones do.

>>17891282
Clearly I misdunderstood you. For the record I'm not saying there's absolutely not a single cobbler, not one througouht Europe who can'te properly resole or rebuild a boot. I'm saying they're far in between and finding one might require sending the boots by mail and waiting who knows how much until you get them back. If I'm not mistaken Red Wing Europe has a bunch of licensed cobblers and I assume they might do work on other branfs too. Cobblers in my area are only good for glueing rubber soles and shinning shoes.

>>17891275
>>17891280
>Order online
That’s where the zoomers gatekeep comes in.
If you know where they are, you know. Then, book a train ticket to personally meet them.
If you can only walk to the shit malls, only know how to google RTW shits, you already failed.

>>17891311
>book a train ticket
Again, might as well travel to EU stores that do carry US/Jap boots.

>>17891311
>If you know where they are, you know.
How wpuld I know where they are if they don't have online presence? The more ypu talk, the less sense you make. I'm begining to think you're metely bullshitting. Considering the hours, there's a high chance you're the ropers tard trolling.

>>17890257
>waxed flesh edition

>>17891315
>>17891315
Picrel guy has a website, facebook, instagram. He is in a small Alpine town in Austria. Some of the more traditional outfits have a website and a facebook.
The problem is you all are too dumb to google right. The gatekeeping here is intellect. If you need to be spoonfed, you already failed.

You wanna know why there is no Grant Stone, Oakstreet, Parkhurst, Red Wing type of brand in Europe?

When European do outdoor things. We wear actual performance sport gears. American larp in "work boots", putting on a little fashion show for some puny walk, many times just back and forth your hip craft beer joint.

The people who dress in that kind of boots are into muh heritage americana fashion, boots like red wing, viberg are for fashion reason. European native boots brands don't cater to that fashion.
Instead we have performance. sports, country fashion, hiking/alpine fashion.
All foreign concepts to spoonfed zoomers.
Pointytoefag got BTFO by Paraboot. Never open your mouth again.

>franks increased prices
damn

Europeans don’t have work boot brands because they’re lazy fucks napping all day and such

>>17891411
>Seething from the lack of social security causes incessant lying.
tsk tsk tsk

>>17891389
Sorry, but you already lost any interest I might had in whataever knowledge or info you might posess. This is a boot general in a very specific board in which supposedly knowledgeable people gather to share and discuss and a great source for those willimg to learn. Yet by gatekeeping ypu bring nothing to the table and waste bits just to boast on an anonymous board. You gained nothing and contributed nothing.
And anyway, what value does the guy in your pic provide that I cannot get from american and japanese manufacturers? That he's more inconvenient to buy from? Do I need to travel to some remote austrian small town and take him for a few beers in the hopes he'll sell me a pair of hiking boots? No thanks, hope he survives with the couple of pairs he sells per year, but even ig you were to give me his full adress and a 50% discount voucher, my curiosity has already died off.
Whatever you're gatekeeping, you're welcome to keep it to yourself. This conversation is over.

>>17891401
>pointytoefaggot btfo
>after three paragraphs explaining why I was right
OK

>>17891415
This conversation is over when I say it’s over if you tried that sass irl you’d end up in an arm bar or giatine choke before you could even say “ whoops”

I cant wait for my boots to get here bros

>>17891410
It's funny that Whites is the cheapest out of all of them.

>>17891427
Producing uppers overseas keeps the cost down

>>17891427
it's nuts, i've seen nicks up their prices 3 times in the past 2-3 months

>White's on sale on Baker's website
>handsewn models cheaper than regular stichdown
>stichdowns under 500 bucks
based

I think White's suck.

this is it. MUCH better than Viberg.

>>17891415
Want to get your dick stroked? Go to reddit.
Im happily proving you all a bunch of spoonfed retard who keep on croaking.
Frog in a well, talking like you know shit when you know nothing at all.
>Wẹe Wee wahh wwahh Europe has no casual bootmakers because I'm too dumb to look.

>>17891441
This is triggering my fight or flight

>>17891419
Glad you admitted you are a schitzo retard. Everything you ever claimed have been deboonked. Maybe move the goal post harder next time.

>>17891445
>Everything you ever claimed have been deboonked.

>>17891401
>You wanna know why there is no Grant Stone, Oakstreet, Parkhurst, Red Wing type of brand in Europe?

Which is it?

>>17891447
>Non sequitur
Meaningless.

This is the most autistic thread on not only this sub but also the entire site

>>17891454
>this sub
back to >>>/r/eddit

>>17891455
He is not wrong. Since boot thread has been taken over by redditors from r/gyw, here is not that much different from reddit.

>>17891459
okay but the watch thread is still way worse

>>17891459
It is much different, despite you being here. We shit on soloshitters and we like ropers and french rangers. Redditors (you) operate differently.

>french ranger anon appears
>thread goes to shit
everytime

>>17891505
I've been here and posting throughout this entire thread, dumb redditor retard. You should have said that 200 posts ago.

>>17891521
That explains the subpar quality of this entire thread…

>>17891523
Damn that sucks anon. If you don't like it you're free to go back though.

>nicks offering quick turnaround on certain cxl models in time for Christmas
>meanwhile standard lead time boots ordered in fucking may went into production this week
Just make the fucking boots on the books wtf

whites suck
nicks suck
franks suck
drews suck

if grant stone made a high arch boot they'd put the entire pnw out of business

>>17891545
>400 dollar chink boots in cxl
kek

>>17891414
This.
>>17891411
But you're also right. Too bad there's no middle ground, every country seems to be either a working concentration camp like the US, or a land of eternal holidays and chilling like the EU.

>>17891547
little larper manlet is threatened

>>17891502
>shit on soloshitter
same as reddit
>like ropers
Oh hi schitzo, are you so lonely that you come here to shitpost?
>french ranger
same as reddit.

>>17891548
That's just Spain and Italy. It feels like there is never a holiday in Poland.

>>17891573
proof?

>>17891576
Do most shops work on weekends? What are the "service standards", e.g. how long do you typically wait for all sorts of staff to address your inquiry? How much rights do employees have?
All these things, I believe, are far less customer-centric in the EU. The employees there have more rights and can therefore afford to be lazier.

if grant stone made a minilug they'd put vibram out of business

https://youtu.be/kXuxA_zMIlA?t=198

Is anyone able to ID these? I can't make out the name of the store. Or maybe it's a thrift store, but they look cool as heck.

>>17891597
>Do most shops work on weekends?
Saturday morning yes, afternoons mostly not unless we're talking about mall centers. Sundays usually a handful a year seve for some parts and cities deemed of touristic interest which may open year-round
>What are the "service standards", e.g. how long do you typically wait for all sorts of staff to address your inquiry?
Varies widely, but as a general rule do kot expect an e-mail answered or a call om weekends. Unless we're talking about tech support.
>How much rights do employees have?
Not as many as you think and diminishing each year. So far it's had zero positive impact on tbe economy ot employment. Turns out making it easier and cheaper to fire people leafs to massive layoffs instead of more hirings.
>All these things, I believe, are far less customer-centric in the EU. The employees there have more rights and can therefore afford to be lazier.
It depends, I worked for years at a very customer-centric big chain and you got chewed put for everything even if ot was not your fault. The pay wasn't even close to worth the stress. I'm selfemployed now and while there's a kind of different stress now, at least I don't have an asshole middle manager breathing down my neck and can tell rude customers to fuck off (this hardly happens, though, apparently people are way more polite when they know you can fight back)

>>17891618
this nigga forgot his laces at home lmao

Lofgren M43 in CXL natural roughout vs Viberg Boondocker in CXL natural roughout? Viberg is just slightly cheaper.
>inb4 white's
i'm a europoor

>>17891678
>cxl
Might as well get some Wolverine 1000 miles

>>17891581
Look up the thousand of posts on r/gyw or go straight to the question thread and see for yourself

>>17891684
I wouldn't ever get smooth cxl but I've heard nothing but good things about cxl roughout.

roughout is a meme

Eventually budget brands will pick up Double Shot, then more Double Shot boots with bad creasing will appear.

>>17891707
but doubleshot is actually good
nice try nick

Why do inexpensive brands even exist it’s like just work some overtime and get the nicer thing to be completely honest

Carmina "Calways" arrived

Color is chestnut karagrain, a little darker than the photo. Like a mid-dark brown with a hint of burgundy.
Last is Forest EEE. I'm normally UK10.5 but went UK11 because Forest is a little short and I want to use thick socks with them.
Sole is the commando sole made from rubber milkers. I forget the name.

I regret not doing storm welt.
The leather is super soft and pliable, a little waxy, I love it.
The sole is so soft you can squish it. Extremely comfy and silent too. But will it last? Also a tiny bit unstable.

The fit is excellent, there's a little bit of excess leather at the start of the shaft on the inside area, close to the ankles.

I'll post a second photo but that one looks very red.

>>17891688
No, I will not go on reddit. That's your job, redditor.

>>17891716
I like them they kinda look like a football(American)

>>17891716
They are nowhere near as red as this photo.

It's just a very dark brown, honestly not unlike brown CXL in shade?

>>17891410
thanks obama

>>17891710
just because I can afford to pay more doesn't mean I want to

>>17891678
i like the boondocker

>>17891716
nice grain

now that seidel got their double shot recipe down and it shits on cxl, how long until we get a seidel waxed flesh?

>navy horsehide stitchdown
>20% off
want but don't need

>filson x danner
>an abomination of a product

MP in kudus

anyone try the new(ish) meermin negon last? How's the sizing?

>>17891722
I was planning this one but with a triple leather sole and toe plates. Why do you regret not doing a storm welt ?

>>17891787
It would have looked a bit less dressy with storm welt
It's not a huge regret or anything I just feel that if we spend so much money on welted shoes, maybe it's not a bad idea to show this welt a little bit.
Without a storm welt, Carmina completely hides the welt under the upper. It's very tightly trimmed.

>>17891787
probably to make it look chunkier to match the rest of the boot

>>17891678
personally think the viberg looks better, but the lofgren is probably going to be more comfortable at the start since it uses the munson last.

I put my Vibergs on ebay and somebody asked if I'm on the "stitchdown discord"
I googled it and cannot find it
But I found people saying it costs $5

What the fuck

my MPs survived a trip to Iceland 8)

>>17891843
literal tranny server

>>17891843
umm you get a ton of bonuses ok like uhhhh
>a rigged competition called the patina thunderdome
>uhhhh discord access

>>17891850
the jizz-on-a-thundercock competition

>10% off sagara
is sagara still a thing? didn't they change names

>>17891847
pure sexo is that the brown dress?

>>17891848
>>17891850
I regret to inform you I have joined the tranny server

I want to sell 4-5 pairs of shoes and boots so I will pay the fee if it helps me getting rid of them and then cancel

>>17891864
i capped your post and joined and posted it to the tranny server now you'll never sell your boots

>>17891856
> is that the brown dress?
it is indeed

why does C&J's Coniston Black Rough-Out Suede boot not have a proper welt through the Vibram sole ?
Is it for easier repairs, cutting corners or some other thing ?
how does it compare to a true welted sole boot ? Curious.

>>17891869
he will have to perform the ancient MonkeyPox rite of initiation

>>17891874
>just bought expensive boots
>wife knows how much I spend on this shit
I'm just going to avoid looking at any sales.

rate my bounty hunter makeup
>6 in shaft
>plain toe
>cinnamon waxed flesh on all panels
>no toe cap
>cut top
>no logos, pull tabs, or liner
>antique eyes and hooks
>standard double row stitch
>single midsole
>traveler heel
>brown edge
>vibram 700 sole
i am still not totally decided on the sole. i want this to be a casual boot for a lot of situations, so maybe the vibram 430 would be better.

>>17891884
>simp problems
Don't care, didn't ask.

>it's finally under 18C
>boots
>wool socks
>wool trousers
>sweaters
>headphones instead of IEMs
truly the best of times

>>17891885
>cut top
>no pull tab
eh i like the rolled top and pull tab

>vibram 700
decent sole, wears well
>so maybe the vibram 430
I personally prefer the half comp if you want commando lugs, the rubber compound on the 430 is not very shock absorby

have you looked at the vibram 269?

>>17891885
yeah, get the 430 mini lug
also the big question strutured or not?

>>17891873
that vibram sole needs a rubber midsole to properly cement to the uppers, the welt is still stitched through the midsole, same as wedge soles.

>>17891873
they don't have a strong enough machine to stitch through the lug soles, that is exclusively reserved for PNW bootmakers

>>17891906
i know the welt is still stitched through the midsole. but why do it that way in the first place? is it vibram specific or some other reason?
looking at trickers production videos and they also glue but later stitch the welt through and through

>>17891896
i like how rolled looks but i had a pair of boots where they dug into my calf too much when really cinched up. i would rather skip any issues this time, especially since no one will see it under the pants.
>have you looked at the vibram 269?
i checked it out, but i am a little nervous it won't have enough grip for winters in my area. we get almost no snow but it rains a lot and always freezes into black ice early into the night and until late in the morning.

>>17891897
forgot to add, going with an unstructured toe on this one.

>>17891915
the 269 performs surprisingly well on most surfaces other than mud

what's an appropriate color sport jacket to wear with navy pants during a dinner?

>>17891977
emerald green
gunmetal gray
chocolate brown

>>17891978
gray was my first choice but is grey good for dinner?

Best nice, pleated wool trousers for winter boot wear?

>>17891982
I bought summer trousers from cavour during their -50% sale and I am very happy with them.

They're like 300€ so -50% was still quite expensive, though they feel much better any other trouser I own.
I might buy some winter stuff from them when they have -50% again.

>>17891980
gunmetal yes heather gray no

>>17891982
Spier and Mackay in their high rise, not the heaviest material but warm enough

>red wing purposely leaves their leather blued so that you get more pullup
weston what...what the fuck are you talking about

oof it over red wing has fallen

>>17891914
look at the sole, it goes all the way to the edge, the machines cant stitch through it, like a wedge.

>>17891977
>>17891985
Maybe safer to instead buy grey wool pants and use a navy jacket now that I think about it honestly

>>17891985
>>17891984
I will check these out
These look comfy >>17891441

>they replaced the leatherboard counter for a plastic one because a plastic one is easier to break in
>because a plastic one is easier to break in
is rose anvil branching out into comedy?

>>17891992
Looks comfy

>>17891995
they are cavour actually

>>17891992
retard

>>17891441
What is it?

>>17892002
iron boots

>>17891996
>>17891992
Has anyone fallen faster, farther than Rose Anvil?

Also
>that collab he keeps shilling
>his weird camera strap he shills

where to find this kind of RM Williams style boot in Europe?

the aniline leather has a weird quality to it, like it can take a chelsea and make it not gay

>>17891998
Which model? Sorry for asking to be spoon fed. I have some wool trousers from Arpenteur but they won't last many more seasons.

>>17892021
https://cavour.co/en/product/8878/mod-2-flannel-cargo-trouser
Its their most casual trousers, wish they did a version without cargo pockets though. Cavour is mostly focused on dressy stuff.

>>17891678
Get the Lofgren Ludlow boots. The boot shape is way more versatile and the shenki horsehide is top notch

>>17891993
So tha'ts the reason ! Many thanks anon.

>>17892018
that's just the gardener model

>>17892023
>wish they did a version without cargo pockets though.
Surprised they haven't. I saw the cargo ones and like them a lot. Could they be removed?

>>17892050
yea its possible, i'll probably have my tailor do it.

>>17890257
*REDDIT BOOT GENERAL
Seriously, when did /fa/ start wanting to look like insecure lumberjacks?

>>17892095
anon you know you are free to post whatever boots right?

>>17892095
More like time travelling lumberjacks. Actual lumberjacks haven't worn soft toe boots to work in half a century. Nothing with a soft toe is workwear for someone who works with his hands for a living.

>>17891893
Under 18C i still wear like tshirts and light jackets anon.

What you say sounds more like 10C.

>>17892098
>p-p-p-p-p-post boooots
post your flannel and fixie, redditor

>>17892106
damage control

>REEEEEEEEE I DON'T LIKE THE BOOTS POSTED IN THE BOOTS GENERAL
>well alright post boots you wanna discuss
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO REEEEEEEEEEE

just bought these bros

>>17892116
i hate fudging

>>17892118
Whats that

>>17891719
It's all redditors here baby.

>>17892121

>>17891909
They do, they have the same Rapid E stitcher.

>>17891917
faggot kill yourself

>>17892131

>>17892118
I'm indifferent about it
the boot is pretty, I cant wait to put them on my feet

>>17891993
They can. They just choose not to, probably for ease of resole. The rubber to rubber bond is insane anyway.

>>17892133
You have 0 taste. You wife fucks dog and your daughter is raped by nubians.

>You have 0 taste
lol don't go throwing stones in a glass house

I'll stone you to death infidel.

>>17890257
boots are for manlets

>>17892139
t.

>>17892148
I think your daughter got bent over that pool table an hour ago.

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