/fa/ - Fashion

>>17869021
Is Whites really outsourcing the uppers? Someone casually mentioned in it the last bread

>>17869027
Remember what is asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.

So where's the proof

>>17869029
Where be the proof they don’t?

>>17869021
lots of shit stirring as of late

>bunch of factory tour videos produced over a couple of years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJpv5OvGKJk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gygpsfsvIKc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwDZjO__B4A

>>17869038
They're so pathetic!

>>17869041
This doesn’t show that they make the uppers. It’s all just marketing nonsense

Wow gang! I can’t believe white’s did is dirty like this.

>>17869044
oh, what are they doing here?

>>17869050
It’s staged

>nicks reddit brigade spamming shit about whites because their QC has been shit lately
you have already failed. tried to do too much meme shit. Frank's dunks on you faggots

whelp, there goes another thread i used to post in on 4chan
i think i've been coming to this site too long bros, it's not fun anymore. i don't think i'm gonna come here anymore

>>17869063
Why?

I will stop posting about WHITES being outsourced to DR, once somebody proves me wrong. Until then I will continue to post!

Even our most affordable boots are made in Spokane.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXmNBT1QPeA&t=914s

>>17869076
NO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND DESPITE MULTIPLE VIDEOS OVER THE YEARS A SINGLE SOCIAL MEDIA POST IS MORE BELIEVABLE IT WAS REAL IN MY MIND

i just started filtering "whites" and didn't miss anything

A real cowboy would never wear boots like that.

>>17869125
They are not cowboys. They are ropers.

>>17869021
Red pill me on Thursday. I have a $200 budget and I need something that looks good, will be warm enough in the winter, and will stand up to abuse (I hike a lot, rain, snow, mud, whatever). I thought the Thursday Captain looked good for its price tag. What's a better option if they're so shitty?

>>17869197
>>17869201
synthetic trash filled with synthetics avoid like the plague. save up and buy red wings

>>17869201
thursdays cross section

>>17869202
wish I had an extra $150 lying around but alas, I don't, and winter is coming early this year.

>>17869218
i'm not enough of a boot autist to know if that's good or bad.

>>17869201
>>17869218
for a comparison, red wing cross section

notice thursday use multiple different synthetic layers, including poron to give you out of the box comfort but the moment the poron collapses from wear you'll have no cushioning whatsoever

compare that to the solid single layer of leather plus cork underneath it. that won't break down like the synthetic stuff would but also provide a lot of solid support underfoot as cushioning only serves to splat your foot

>>17869220
of course being made in mexico thursdays aren't known for quality either so you may end up paying less up front but long term it'll cost you more as you spend it with wet feet

>>17869201
they are objectively shit and probably won't last a month if you wear them for all that. if you really need a boot for all those activities and that's your budget you need to consider just getting a synthetic hiking boot.

>>17869220
>wish I had an extra $150 lying around
just door dash less

>>17869225
>>17869222
Thanks for the analysis. I am reconsidering now. I just don't want to be tricked into paying extra for a brand name. I care very much about longevity and quality, and very little about the name attached.

>>17869230
if longevity is what you're after RW is definitely the entry point for good quality boots, I personally have RWs that i've owned for more than 10 years

Hey guys,
I want to apologize for shitposting about Wh*tes. I know that everyone has a different opinion and I was rude to try and force mine even though it is right.
I hope you can forgive me.
-anon

>>17869021
Hey those are pretty good looking

>>17869262
sons of henrey byron
could have just google reverse searched

>>17869262
galway is good pattern

>>17869218
Lmao this is fucking terrible

>>17869201
>Red pill me on Thursday
>I hike a lot, rain, snow, mud, whatever
WTF are you doing?
Even if you're fine wearing a piece of shit why would you go hiking in those?
Just get some Jim Green Razorbacks.

brass > silver hardware

>>17869491
Silver is for black boots, if you wear brass you'll look like a pilgrim if your boots are black.

>>17869505
normal people don't wear black boots

>>17869475
>Even if you're fine wearing a piece of shit why would you go hiking in those?
Because I don't have money to buy 12 different pairs of boots. I need one do everything boot. Hiking boots look stupid when you're not actually hiking.

>>17869548
Then save up some more money and buy a Truman boot with their lug sole.
You can wait for a sale as well, Black Friday is coming up soon.

Is it safe… is he finally gone ?

I for one is enjoying the anti-whites revolt. Maybe you shouldn't have been such an obvious shill for White's; spamming every thread with them and no matter the question every answer was always muh white's, and you did it for free too. Faggots gets the mockery too.

>>17869658
You were made in the Dominican republic

>>17869659
fucking gottem

>>17869056
But Frank IS a faggot.

>>17869659
I sewed your moms uppers, bitch

>>17869548
>I need one do everything boot.

Just get one pair of well made nice looking boots and one pair of modern hiking boots or trail runners from Merrell or Keen or Salomon. If you don’t have room in your closet or budget for two pairs of boots, you need to ignore buying boots and concentrate on getting a job that doesn’t require you to live in the pod and eat the bugs.

>>17869658
We have been shitting on the Whiteshills for a while now.
5 years ago, these threads were decent, until the whiteshills (who is also a redditfag) came along and ruined it.

>>17869666
Every single PNW maker is faggot lover. They are in Washington, what do you expect?

>rose anvil says indys are bad, says the last is the same because some mall trash has the same insole shape
>bedos wears them because they are damn comfortable and thinks they are alright
hmm.. almost like rose anvil doesn't know shit about boots.

I’ve just about decided on Truman boots. How often do they restock sizes? Are they top quality boots? What are thoughts on dark green boots? Are they a practical color?

>>17869804
what are those ? look like a more expensive version of urban shepherds

>>17869834
they are bonafe, thought its interesting how casual they can go if you want to.

>>17869021
I got these, the rubber framing right above the soles makes it narrow for the foot. Is that something you can break in?

>>17870075
lol
construction worker who buys all their gear at Walmart core

>>17870099
Fair enough. Nevertheless...

>>17870099
Uironically, real construction workers get their boots from the mall or walmart.

>>17869953
American can't comprehend the Euro versatility.

>>17870121
Because they're given a minimum stipend to get those boots to satisfy OSHA, and they continuously return those boots a month later and try to abuse return policies to keep cycling those shit boots for new pairs.
t. Former sports/outdoors retail worker

>>17870127
Anyone who wonders why the shoemaking trade in american is declining in quality. this is a glimpse into the answer.

>>17870127
Unironically this, osha should increase the minimum and require American made boots. But that won’t happen. It’s only a difference of going from $150 to $250. You use to be able to get American made boots with the stipend but now it’s not enough. The steel toed boots I got from my first stipend I still wear today. Pic related. The following years I couldn’t afford them with the stipend

>boot niggers wear this and wonder why we mock them

>muh seidelbadalassi extra thick bison cowhide

>i gots that extra midsole sheesh, much arch support

>shoe niggas really do be wearing these and wonder why we make fun of them

>traditional is better!

>IT MOLDS TO YOUR FEET so you can get that nice custom leather footprint, your foot pops right in, we love that tight grain pattern

>>17870127
>continuously return those boots a month later and try to abuse return policies
On that note, can I break them in?
>>17870075

>>17870121
Majority I see wear Red moc toes

ny1 have recs for places to buy vintage engineer boots?

>>17870147
>>17870149
>>17870150
>>17870151
>>17870153
>>17870155
You tried SOOO hard to be funny and it's wasn't

>>17870174
He triggered you little snowflake so that is already a win.

>>17870189
If I’m a snowflake then you’re a raindrop

Read that again.

>>17869828
they regularly drop new batches if boots, but you might not see it in the same leather/color for a while. i really liked my pair they seemed very solid and sturdy.

>>17870226
Have you ever had to return a boot from Truman? I think they have my size in the Java but I’ve fluctuated +-1/2 size depending on shoe manufacture.

>>17870233
no, my sizing was pretty on point. i went a .5 size down from my brannock measurement. if you are an E width i also highly recommend getting their EE size.

>>17870223
That’s pretty gay.

>>17870189
if you resort to calling someone "snowflake" then you've already lost

What is it about Trenton and Heath that is so soulless and cringe?
I feel like they try too hard to be taken seriously

>>17870174
seething bootcoon

>>17870261
>What is it about Trenton and Heath that is so soulless and cringe?
southern aesthetic

>>17870239
It’s pretty tempting. I think their Java waxed flesh will fit me but I’m not sure I want a waxed boot. I always figured I would get something smooth like their brown double shot. I wear my boots so I’m not worried about quickly getting a patina, I’m sure the smooth ones would look worn after 5 years too but not like they’re destroyed which I fear the waxed will look like.

>>17869828
look heres the thing: trumans are great boots, very well constructed, built like tanks, awesome leather, will last forever. That being said, they are VERY chunky, big boots. look at pics online of ppl wearing them before you buy them. they are a big clunky heavy boot especially now with the commando sole they use. Its not necessarily a bad thing if that is your aesthetic, but I dont find them to be very versatile. theyre like a rugged motorcycle boot you wear with t shirt and denim. you cant really dress them up though or wear them with a button down imo, they look ridiculous.

>>17869828
>Are they top quality boots?
no better or worse than other GYW boots on the market
>What are thoughts on dark green boots? Are they a practical color?
only as a third pair

>>17870258
I'm not even that image dump poster.

Skoak's GMTOs for this month

I don't like any of these.
The Joker oxfords are such a weird shoe.
The other oxfords are cool but I think non-black oxfords should be a darker brown because it's a formal shoe any way you cut it.

>>17870423
i mean what the fuck

>>17870428
at least the pattern is kinda interesting

>>17870416
shit happens

>>17870428
I'd wear them. Fuck it

I have done two MTOs from Bonafe through Skoak but in order to do a "balway" I'd have to cheat on them and go to a different retailer (Solegarb) and I don't really want to do that.

Probably better to just fork the extra cash and get a Galway. I was probably not going to do shell anyway.

>>17870455
got a mahogany smooth+hatch balway coming, got a couple more planned eventually too.

>>17870443
>>17870432
bimaterial oxfords can be cool but not with bright purple suede

Are the RW roughnecks good? The regular moc wedge sole looks like Gouda cheese. It’s ugly and only gays wear them.

So gimme the straight, does whites really outsource uppers to be sewn in nigger islands?
I don’t want to believe, but whites won’t email me back with an answer.

>>17870497
anon it's called "Whites" not "Dominicans"

>>17870497
Hi this is whites. We outsource our Leather uppers to the DR and Nicaragua. Thank you.

>>17870498
It’s probably to trick us. If you had nigs making boots, wouldn’t you try to hide it too
>>17870500
I knew it. Screenshotting this now for proof

>>17870497
of course not

>>17870416
the problem with welding your welt to the sole is like I'd did here its liable to just RIP the welt on separation

>>17870497
>"look mom I posted it again!"

I guess Cavour won't be restocking anything except their own shoe brand anymore.

This is the only thing they have left.

>>17870543
He is lucky that he can brag to his mom. Your mom is busy whoring her wrinkled pussy out to niggers so she can’t return your call.

>>17870428
Joker core

>>17870584
You probably thought this was really funny

>>17869021
speedhooks are gay

>oi George, this is what women like innit? me missus keeps naggin me about diversity and shite

>>17870621
It was funny

So are the rumors true boys? *gulps*
Is whites actually making boot uppers in a Foreign country with monkey slaves?

Please tell me this isn’t true, I have invested so much money and time into my whites boot collection

>>17870630
Clown shoes kek

>>17870649
Troll posts are not allowed

>>17870653
It’s not a troll post! I’m genuinely so nervous, I can barely eat and I have literal shit dripping down my legs into my brand new perry moc-toe boots.

>>17870649
>I have invested so much money and time into my whites boot collection
oh? is that true? surely you can post a timestamped pic right

Are there any good boot/leather YouTubers, or are most of them shills now?

>>17870657
Rose anvil. He is great and honest! Just like Whites shoe company.

Baigo Bendi

>>17870657
the best ones are cobblers like Steve, Dan, Wyatt and Son and maaaaaaaybe Trenton and Heath (they're also shills unfortunately)
the cobblers will literally tear apart the shoes, rebuild them and talk through the entire process while showing it all.
Or you could listen to Rose Anvil or Stridewise getting paid to advertise for a brand that paid them to say nice things. I know I'd rather watch a cobbler instead

>>17870656
No, my camera is broken. Not even joking, I would if I could mate, idk what to tell you

if you guys filter "Whites" you miss nothing in these threads but don't see his spam

>>17870666
Wh*tes is made in dumbinican repubic

>>17870656
Here
>>17870663
This joker is not me. Fuck off troll

>>17870673
>no timestamp

>>17869021
Avoid major brands and you gucoi. Diesel is an exception sometimes. Learn to pick and send back if bad. Also your main size or nothing!

>Avoid major brands and you gucoi. Diesel is an exception sometimes

600 quid japanese meme boots that I want because japan meme

>>17870681
>lets slap a high profile sole on a sleek design boot
>not even a fucking wholecut
to what end

>>17870677
E S L
S
L

>>17870684
this is the fashion boot aesthetic of our times you philistine

>>17870662
Seems really obvious to go looking for actual cobblers for info now that you mention it. Now I feel kind of dumb for not thinking of it. Thanks.

>>17870659
I used to watch that guy religiously. What bothers me more than the shilling is that it feels like he purposely tries to obfuscate that certain videos are sponsored.

>>17870697
Yeah he’s a major cuck and a Mormon

>>17870673
Damn just look at those uppers, def made in DR

>>17870416
>wearing doc martens

>>17870733
Lol I doubt he's Mormon. Just because he's from Utah doesn't mean he is one
t. from Utah

why don't you autist ever post anything useful like decent boot models/brands

>>17870796
what brand do you want to know about?

>>17870789
Rose anvil is Mormon and whites uppers are made in haiti.
You can’t change my mind

>>17870761
just as good™

>>17870279
>>17870347
I've been eyeing the trumans in java waxed too, but the seem to be out of most sizes atm. Does anyone here got trumans? How do they size compared to other brands?

>>17870826
K

>>17870796
Thaes threads have been going for years. /fa/ doesn't get new posters. It's the same people it's always been and we all own boots now. There's nothing to discuss or post that hasn't been done a million times

Thoughts on the Meermin waxy kudu chelseas? Reddit seems to think they're pretty good value and I really like the look of the leather

>>17870347
I don’t really wear button ups and mostly wear my steel toe Thorogoods in the winter. If I’m dressing up I would wear my Allen Edmonds dress shoes. I suppose sometimes it would be nice to be able to dress them up with a button down. But I don’t wear button downs often, and like I said; I would just wear dress shoes.

>>17870877
looks like dirty hobo leather

Which one of you faggots ordered my Truman boots? How often do they restock?

>>17870909
Look at those filthy monkey hands.

>>17870878
>steel toe
>in the winter
>when you're not working with a crushing/pinching hazard
memed

>>17870965
You must be sensitive. Cant find boots that match your earmuffs?

>>17870965
I got them for free and they’re comfortable. They keep my feet much warmer than any of my sneakers. They’re pretty water proof too. If I’m hunting or need real warm boots I wear my insulated steel toe Chippewa boots. But now that I make good money and don’t have to wear steel toed boots for work anymore I want a nicer pair of boots, hence I’m looking here. What are peoples thoughts on toe cap v no toe cap?

>>17870986
good God don't get a fucking toe cap kek

>>17869021
do i just wait for kommando store to restock? do you guys buy aus jump boots anywhere else?

>>17870347
Has anyone tried the black tea core Truman boots? Do they age to brown like the Truman website says?

>>17871030
They are just summer boots, not jump boots. You can order the Steinkogler pairs through online sites. (look them up yourself nigger) As a recommendation, buy some Swiss Balmer Offizierstiefel boots.

>>17870982
Wow I think now I’m a whites supremacist

>>17871051
>tea core
>Do they age to brown
thats literally what makes tea core tea core

>>17871054
I hate lace to toe

>>17871054
>summer boots, not jump boots
my b, in my head paratrooper = jump
ty for the info anon.

>>17871068
But they look very black new. I want dark brown boots

>>17870677
What is a main size

>>17870416
At least thats easy to resole

My confidence with getting girls is at an all time low because I don't own a pair of black ropers.

>>17871307
I'm sure it's because tfw no ropers and not because you're overweight, have terrible hygiene and are autistic

>>17871436
>you're overweight, have terrible hygiene and are autistic

Well none of these are anywhere near being true, so yeah it is because tfw no ropers.

>>17869201
>I hike a lot
>Americans calling a two-hour walk in "nature" hiking...
For hiking and shit there's only one (1, eine) Option und das ist MEINDL du Arschloch.

>>17871307
Ropers and slavs just don't match

>>17871485
Who?

>>17871068
The dye is just a topcoat on regular hides that are filled with oils, so the dye scrapes/fades away over time. Old boots show this.
>>17871086
The Swiss pairs are great THOUGH
>>17871093
No problem, bro.
>>17871483
I use Steinkogler. Glued soles suck, especially when they split on a climb. If anything, the soles shuld be a one piece attachment, like Lundhags or DMS boots.

>>17871488
Heil Hitler

He means Eastern Euros/Russian Muscovites wearing American Cowboy equipment. It looks out of place, but I'd like to see it. Last time I checked an estate sale website, I saw 3 Made in Texas, all leather cowboy boots being sold for like $5.

are danner mountain lights /btg/ approved? buddy of mine shills them pretty hard so ive been thinking about giving them a try

>>17871520
Nah, they made by the same jap mega corp that makes whites.
Which means they probably partially foreign made

>>17871483
I'm Canadian, and I've been on three 10k hikes innawoods over the past month alone (not counting my hunting trips). Stop projecting on strangers, city boy.

I ended up buying Red Wing Blacksmiths btw.

>>17871494
No, who asked?

>>17869201
>have a $200 budget
Search for Chippewa on ebay.

What's a good boot for a manlet?

>>17871570

>>17871522
>Which means they probably partially foreign made
dont know much about fashion, but so long as its not sweatshop foreign made, then it doesnt matter too much right? id rather have jeans made in japan than jeans made by deanos and trishas

>>17871538
Do you hike in blacksmiths?

>>17871538
Not the other guy, but 10k is nothing.

For serious hiking i wear "i dont care about the looks" stuff like Salomon XA pro 3D GTX or Asics Trabuco... mostly the same id wear for trail running.

Not that i cant walk 20k in goodyear welted boots, but why would i?

Pic rel.

>>17871492
These still look black, asides the heel. The heel is what I like. But maybe it’s the lighting. If I want a very dark brown boot would I be disappointed with the Truman tea core boots?

>>17871592
Whites uppers are made in a massive Dominican sweatshop

If there's one thing I've learned in my years on 4chan it's that this autist will continue to spam him forced meme nonstop for a year straight or longer
Buckle up boys, he's just getting started

>>17871661
just report for spamming every time the faggot posts

>>17871636
No but I'm going to try it out.

>>17871639
>Not the other guy, but 10k is nothing.
Depends on the terrain, elevation, weather etc. 10k through the forest with lots of elevation gain is about twice as long of a hike as 10k on flat concrete or a well maintained flat dirt trail. 3 hours of tough hiking in a day is more than 99% of Amerifats or leafs will ever do so I'm not sure the need to start a pissing match. I am physically capable of multi-day through hikes, but I don't enjoy that sort of thing so how is it relevant?

>For serious hiking i wear "i dont care about the looks" stuff like Salomon XA pro 3D GTX or Asics Trabuco... mostly the same id wear for trail runnin
I too have dedicated hiking shoes that I wear for more serious trips. They're no good for winter though and I don't like wearing them casually.

>>17871712
>/fa/
>jannies
you must be new here

>>17871744
Only the worst ones on here.

Bootbabby here, are Thursdays really that bad?
An RW store opened up near me recently and I impulse bought a pair of iron rangers, so that's the only point of reference I have for a quality comparison.

>>17871753
>are Thursdays really that bad?
yes. just one look at the cross section and you can tell, especially against the iron rangers

>>17871640
The entire boot was dyed black with the aniline dye, and the heel faded to show its true colors below. Your idea of a dark brown boot is just from very long periods of care and wear. As for those boots, do you plan on wearing them for 10 years or more? Or is it just a fad? That’s what will make a proper pair of very dark, almost black boots.

Has anyone tried Berwick?

>>17871640
then don't buy a teacore boot just buy a dark brown boot

>>17871753
Thursdays are junk but even if they were decent it's not morally right or ethical to support them

>>17871766
This. I cringe at how many miles I've walked in chinkware (or i their case, spicware). It's especially shameful for opponents of globohomo. You vote with your wallet.

>>17871753
lol

>>17871757
I plan on keeping it for a long time. My last cheap boots lasted 5 years. They’re ready for a resole but it’s probably not worth it for these.
>>17871763
Considering this too, but I found a tea core boot for sale and I like the idea of black fading to brown.

>>17871776
>fat cancle zipper boot wearing redditor faggot

>cold enough to start wearing heavy wool trousers
feels comfy man

>>17871800
too much break

>>17871805
no break for summer weight fabrics
max break for heavy weight fabrics

>>17871800
those look cozy as fuck. aren't they a pain to keep clean though?

>>17871814
no? wool is actually self cleaning

>>17871800
When summer hits I intend to try out a wool linen blend.
All my life I thought cotton is where it's at for summer but I never understood that cotton will never, ever drape properly.

>>17871819
>a wool linen blend
do those even exist?

>>17871821
Here's one from Cavour with silk also in it.
No cotton.
https://cavour.co/en/product/8361/mod-2-luxury-wool-silk-linen-trouser

I've bought pants from Cavour before they're very good but very long, they have like 10cm extra fabric at the legs just in case you're really tall and need a 5cm cuff.

Wow boys! Whites really did do us dirty! Damn

>>17871661
Prove me wrong and I will stop posting. And not some propaganda video this time
>>17871712
Lol pussy

>prove me wrong
lolno. you made the initial claim that white's are made in the DR, the onus is on you to provide proof that they are

>>17871843
Fine then I will continue posting. You know I am right, just admit it

>>17871841
The burden of proof falls on you my friend. Good luck

>>17870630
I mean, 50/50 that a woman who really wants handmade oxfords is gonna be an aggressively out lesbian.

>>17871851
Proof

if you were to do this in green (loden) suede and small eyelets, what color would you make them?

brass like pic related?

>>17871870
or nickel?

>>17871870
yeah antique brass not shiny brass

can a c*bbler resole a stitchdown boot

>>17871758
I have a pair of dress shoes from Berwick, seems very solid.

>>17871884
A good one, yeah

stitchdown line looking pretty good

>>17871928
>LTT

weird looking welt

>>17871939

>>17871939
You're a weird looking welt.

>>17871870
>what color
same with your other metals

>>17871939
american shoemakers will call this an "oxford"

Viberg calls this an "oxford"

>>17872011
99% of boot brands call their derbies "oxfords" for some reason

>>17869021
>more than a 1000 euro for a pair of designer boots
>don't even have granular enough size scale so you have to size up
So fucking painful to be a yohji warrior...

>>17872011
viberg ran a "real" oxford not even 2 weeks ago for AW23 called bastion oxford
fugly bump toe and ridgeway sole

they scrubbed all mention of it from their whole website
must have been a real disaster if they feel that ashamed that they pulled them down after just a week

>>17872062
>dainite on boots
>ridgeway on oxford
come on viberg

>>17872062
kek why would anyone buy their oxfords

>>17872069
circus clowns need funeral shoes too

Does anybody have a recommendation for a knee high boot?

>>17872174
Are you a girl

>>17872175
None of us here are.

Also fuck off if the recommendation is a larger ass cowboy boot

Says he's worn them less than 10 times and I actually believe it from the photos.

C&J Conistons with shoe trees included for 380 british pounds (about 440€) on SF

It's dainite though and I already have a grain leather "Calway" on order

>>17872180
Larper Ass* fucking phones autocorrect

>>17872174
Whites will make you a 16" smokejumper, which should land just under the knee

$950 for brand new unworn galways in my size?

the problem is: posted December 2022 and never updated
99% already sold and he forgot

>>17872192
same guy is selling a brand new col8 hatch Carmina shell boot for $575
brand new unworn trees included, my size

but the listing is a year old, not marked as sold, probably forgot
Why was he selling a bunch of brand new boots

I have never seen this makeup before, I thought Carmina (and all shoemakers really) avoid doing plain toe shell cordovan shoes because the shell stretches too much at the toe.
But it looks good.

>>17872195
I mean look at that

>>17872198
>>17872195
>Why was he selling a bunch of brand new boots
They're either stolen or fakes

>>17872201
no one fakes carminas out there
if you look closely the left boot, it has a sligthly deeper than superficial scratch at the toe, not just a bump, but actually the grain being a little bit torn
brushing and maybe spot conditioning will make it go away 95%
but there are motherfuckers out there that think they broke their new toy and can't live with it now that the boot is forever ruined
a scratch in such a visible area like the toe will forever haunt them
people, that honestly buy these boots beyond their means, want to keep them as pristine as possible and that's also the same type that would feel the need to recoup some of their losses by selling them on

>>17872195
>>17872198
ok that is the only good looking shell boot on the market

AN END TO THE WHITES ORDER SAGA

whites flagged the address. I'm not surprised but I'm still annoyed that they didnt respond to the email. if you flag the address then dont respond to email inquiries then how is the problem supposed to be resolved?
they canceled the order, released the hold on the money and said I can resubmit the order because they've manually flagged the address as legitimate but quite frankly I'm not sure I want to
Nick's shipped to this address without issue btw

>>17872315
what kind of wack ass third world country is your address

>>17872315
Whites has zero customer service now. It’s crazy maybe the anti-whites shitposter is on to something

>>17872181
Nothing wrong with dainite

>>17872319
i wont shit on them for this but they auto flag ship forwarding addresses. they claim they have a problem with people sending stuff to them then saying they dont get them. I dont see how that's their problem because once ups says its delivered the transaction is done and it's no longer their problem

what I do have a problem with is not responding to the email. the only way to resolve the issue is to call them but if theres something funky going on I'd just tell them the same info i had entered when buying. it adds no security and serves only to frustrate real paying customers. this is the first company to hassle me over this address after years of use

anyways they're not hurting for sales so they wont care about the one order but I just dont like how the whole thing played out and I dont feel like ordering from them again

>ship forwarding addresses
yeah you deserved it

>>17872348
it's far quicker and cheaper than international shipping. you often dont pay anything to ship in the us and then the shipping company charges way less than post or fedex/ dhl/ ups. they also have in house customs staff that mean things get cleared on arrival instead of after a few days
it's just way more convenient

>>17872343
>slips and dies

>>17872361
sure but there are fairly strict rules for export declaration and all that jazz they didn't want to be caught up in your nonsense

>>17872388
>but there are fairly strict rules for export declaration and all that jazz
it's being shipped domestically. they ship it to what amounts to a po box in the us. the company has legal authority to act as the recipient. whites is not involved in any of that at all
Nick's had zero issue putting the address on a shipping label and handing it to the ups man. maybe stop outsourcing shipping label creation to the dominican republic

>>17872395
>the company has legal authority to act as the recipient
yeah but not as the exporter

>>17872399
pretty sure they do. the seller has zero responsibility for the package once it reaches the po box
just admit whites has terrible customer service

>>17872405
no cause they have to provide a BOM and there is no way they have that information

tl:dr play stupid games win stupid prizes

>>17872407
so to recap brands that cannot provide information for export:
whites

brands that can:
every other fucking brand in existence

nice operation you have there whites. also all the company wants is the invoice which i supply to them. whites doesnt even need to do that

>>17872384
>wears it on ice
Deserved it desu

>>17869548
>I need one do everything boot.
doesn't exist

>>17869548
then get some White's MP

>>17869021
is this grant stone marketing material supposed to show off how good their boots age?
because it's not really convincing me, but at least it's honest

>>17872472
plain toes will always crease more ugly

>>17869021
what color of space suit would these boots match?

>>17872454
>paying $700 for a single jack of all trades boot instead of buying 3 decent pairs of special purpose boots
ISHYGDDT

There are only three types of people who buy boots that cost more than $500. Professionals, richfags, and retards. Which one are you?

>>17872489
name 3 special purpose boots that cost $700 combined and what special purpose they might serve

>>17872490
>Casual: Thursday Captains - $200
>Hiking: Solomon X Ultra 4 mid gore-tex - $210
>Steel toe workboot: Red Wings Dynaforce 2212 - $230

Total: $640

The workboot and the hiking boot are both better for their respective purpose than the $700 White's. And hell you could even throw in a rubber rainboot for shits and giggles and keep it at that price point.

>>Casual: Thursday Captains

>>17872500
2 synthetic boots made in oversees sweatshops and a glorified sneaker or one decent handmade boot?
you really made a strong case

>>17872527
>moving the goal posts this hard
If being on a budget wasn't a factor then we wouldn't be having this discussion. The fact remains that two of those three boots will perform better at their given task.

three boots in hand is worth one that wont ship

based
stop the consoomerism right now

>>17872549
Just use your real shipping address and there will be an end to the horror

>>17872501
>no!! you've gotta waste $1k on fotm pnw meme boots like me!!
ok incel

>>17872589
Imagine not having $350.
Do you ride a bike instead of drive?

>>17872599
There's something amazingly ironic about city hipsters larping around with their expensive blue collar boots that will never touch anything but flat concrete or asphalt all the while shitting on actual blue collar people.

>>17872601
I work maintenance, should you be shitposting about the domincan republic?

>>17872599
go ahead and name a boot with significantly better construction than pic rel with similar aesthetics for $350 shipped, you can't

>Anon complains that White's is ignoring him
>Turns out it was because he was doing sus shit

>>17872605
Here you go you retarded poorfag.
https://www.parkhurstbrand.com/collections/factory-seconds-and-samples/products/the-richmond-rust-waxy-factory-second-1
The problem isn't that you're poor, it's that you're retarded.

>>17872606
the totally sus shit of placing an order and politely asking days later what the fuck is going on
they could have made an attempt to verify. i have id, i have packages with that address on the shipping label. they could have made an attempt to service the customer
i think theres even a term for it

>>17870416
Stop giving the bad people in this thread good ideas

>>17872606
You whites shills are delusional.

So can we finally agree that whites sucks?
Terrible customer service, and they are sneaky about where the uppers are sewn.

>>17872646
>look mom I posted it again

>>17872657
you just jealous that my mom still loves me.

>>17869021
they're clown shoes, but i still weirdly like it. it's the kind of boot i can picture someone else pulling off really well.

>>17872685
huge

>>17872686
oh this will trigger the shelftard

lol they fired grant and got this goober instead

>>17872706
who is grant and who is this goober?

>>17872686
Why is the welt so thicc? Why the double stitch??? Are americans retarded???

>>17872727
>Americans

>>17872728
Yeah, the meme construction originated in the USA. Yaps went with it because it reminds them of americans.

>>17872732

>>17872727
>americans

>>17871907
Too solid actually. I own a pair of full brogue derbies and they look great but ar hard af, almost imposible to break in compared to things like Cheaneys, Meermin, Calce etc

But if you are comfy in them, bet they will last for life and look good.

>>17872685
>>17872686

>>17872686
>>17872685
Japanese are conservative in their normal day to day stuff but when it's a hobby then they take it to the extreme.

Doesn't mean you should go out wearing that.

>>17872752
>Too solid
I don't have get this feeling with my Berwicks at all.

>>17872773
>>17872779
high heels but would probably look good with normal pants that aren't frayed

>>17872780
do you prefer frayed pants or cuffed pants

a lotta money but no taste

>>17872817
>implying all that brown shit above is tasteful
Seriously, why are you all so obsessed with brown shoes that all follow the same style?

Hey guys, how typical is it for dye to come out in the conditioner you're using (Bickmore 4)? Granted I'm fairly new to not dressing like a complete slob but I have owned boots before and this hasn't happened. I went: wipe down with saddle soap > brush > first coat of conditioner > let dry for ten and brush > overnight conditioner > might brush it, but should I just wipe it away? Overboard?

It's Meermin so I know it's leather, maybe not the highest quality leather, but definitely leather.

>>17872884
>saddle soap
there is your problem
Don't use saddle soap unless actually necessary, which is probably never. You also don't need 2 coats of conditioner.

>>17872794
Neither
I hem my pants at the local tailor and she charges me 6 euros, it looks clean afterwards, neither cuffed nor frayed.

>>17872884
It has never happened to me but I have never used saddle soap.
I use renovateur every few months, just plop some with my fingers and spread it until it disappears from everywhere then wait 5-10 mins and brush

Still thinking about those boots
>>17872198
>>17872195

Plain toe hatch shell with only two large panels to minimize shell color variations.

I might do this setup but from Enzo Bonafe and go with armagnac hatch shell like >>17870455
Without a captoe there won't be any color variation.

Also I avoid plain toe shoes normally (except suede) because creases look weird with no captoe, but plain toe on shell won't have that problem.

>>17872884
saddle soap is for when boots are really dirty or to remove stubborn stains, so unless you do manual labor on them probably will never need it. It also strips the leather of a lot of its natural pils so heavily conditioning afterwards might be needed. Guess it can also affect the pigment, but not 100% sure about that.
Most conditioners will darken the leather to some degree, it should go back to the original with use.

>>17872689
the shelf is by the arch

>>17872862
anon are you literally blind, the last 5 pics are of different styles of boots
>cap toe service
>monkey
>LTT
>plain toe service
>engineer
>plain toe service

NEW NEW NEW
>>17873359
>>17873359
>>17873359

NEW NEW NEW
>>17873359
>>17873359
>>17873359

>>17872884
That has happened with bick 4 for me, but the boot didn't look any different, it was just excess dye, that got on the cloth.