/fa/ - Fashion

First for TLB Mallorca

>>17832925
Utterly MOGGED by Carmina

How do I know if my boots are too wide for me?

>>17832953
This is wrong though and anyone with experience with the bands (o own both) knows this
Only thing Carmina has on TLB is way more styles

>>17832960
Do you feel like you're swimming in them?

>>17832996
Yea. But they do look good on my feet. Is there any downside to too wide shoes?

>>17833001
You may slip around in them on steeper terrain, you can probably get blisters easier since there is more room to move around in them and have friction.
You could always use a thicker insole and make it fit how it is supposed to.

>>17833005
>blisters
I’ve worn them long enough and not a single blister. I feel it’s loose at the herl but I just tie the laces tighter.

It has happened, and it is the end of all things. Which pair of boots do you bring? You can only take one.

>>17833009
my smokejumpers in black roughout

>>17833009
white's mps. it's the only decent boots i have right nowᶦ ᵏᶰᵒʷ ˢᵖᵒᶦᶫᵉʳˢ ᵈᵒᶰ'ᵗ ʷᵒʳᵏ. i am being gifted a pair of nigs roberts though. since i probably won't wear them as is i was thinking about having them resoled with vibram v-100s. might take those if if i do that change.

>>17833009
Franks type 1 commander in tan teton rough out for the abrasion resistance of rough out and a lighter color will keep the boots cooler in the sun, and it's very hot here.

>>17833009
it's going to rain

>>17833001
I feel like wider toe box just prevents bunions.

french fag here.
I love tall boots and recently i collect information about those.
Can you guys tell if they are ok for :
- rural live
- mountain live
- forest

Are they heavy ? the ad talk about firefighter but im not gonna be in forest fire with those, in fact i won't be in any forest fire (i hope).

>>17833009
i hesite with those that i have, maybe you can give me advice :
- Nike FSB Coyote
- Crockett and Jones IslayDark Brown Scotch Grain.
- Lowa Z-6S GTX C Dark Brown

i know beside the Crockett they are not fancy boots.

lol there is a cordovan bourton on the outlet, i wonder if this was some shitty MTO or a retarded intern used brown cordovan for the heel.

>>17833132
- rural live
- mountain live
- forest
yes
>Are they heavy ?
yes all leather construction means heavy and durable, take care of them, rotate them and they will last

>>17833132
>french fag
>not using french rangers for foresting, hiking and farm work

Do you guys condition with waterproof stuff the outer midsoles of your boots? I saw one dude doing that on a video, putting some waterproof wax on the outer mifsoles and the exposed leather between the heel and the forefoot. I never thought of that but it makes sense I guess? It doesn't rain much where I live.

>>17833137
Nah i've seen them too much, im bored. I love the White's design, specially with brown roughout.
+ i don't wear black, it's boring.

But, if you can convince me otherwise please show me some great exemple of french rangers.

>>17833132
They're fantastic for rural areas mountains and forests, that is what they were designed for.
>Are they heavy?
Yes, they weigh about 2.76 KG in 10D for the pair but you will get used to it.
Get them with the standard vibram 100 lugs not the fire rated ones.

>>17833139
i rub a little obernauf lp on the edge of the soles yes

>>17833139
The companies I trust say not to do this, especially stacked leather soles.

>>17833139
Also you can still put polish on them, but conditioner shouldn't be used.

>>17833143
stacked leather heels*

>>17832650
>eBay?

No, I bought an original pair from France. From a dedicated store. Aside from Justins, I think there were Ariats that can ship to yurop, but only ugly pairs, and also these new Thursday ropers, which I'm pretty sure are garbage for the price, unless you can confirm otherwise. You guys always say Thursday is bad and reddit, and they also don't have width sizes.

>>17833140
What can I show you that you haven't seen already? I'm very happy with mine.

>>17833184
Thursdays get a lot of bad rep which I beleive it's a bit overblown. But I don't own Thursdays so I can't tell.
If you can buy from Frnce, check local brands. The french boomers really love western boots for some reason.

>>17832915
I just want a pair why the fuck are they always out of stock reeee

>>17833236
id?

>>17833195
I can't find any.

>bought Stefano Bemer chukkas in boar hide while in Florence yesterday
>should arrive in twelve weeks
It's a long wait, but they'll fit perfectly and be of excellent quality. Very excited.

>>17833252
Shoe passion

Any spanishfags here have experience with Sendra? I've found picrel on the website. Says construction os goodyearwelt, which it should be for 279€, but no info on the leather.

This one says "brushed camel finish", whstever the hell that means. Lools like artificially aged leather which os a bit of a red flag I guess.

>wore dainite today
>light drizzle outside
>get reminded how bad this shit hydroplanes as you almost eat dirt
many such cases

Skoak GMTO for October

550 + VAT (+ tip)
Handwelted etc etc

>>17833290
>>17833287
If you want a relatively cheap Spanish boot look at Yanko
Skolyx sells them

They got some stitchdown chukkas at 180 and normal stuff is like 250? maybe I misremember

With Carmina's MTO weekend live, here's some photos of stuff I've saved that looked good to me

Two hatch shell designs - this one's a longwing boot.

>>17833339
This one's a split toe
Also hatch shell

>>17833339
A "frankenstitch" in bourbon hatch shell

I would do away with the medallion on the toe

>>17833339
A "Calway" in Loden suede

Carmina is probably the cheapest way to get a Galway clone.
Loden suede looks really good to me, I will get a green boot one day.

But obviously you save less with non-shell MTOs during the weekend.

JK boots doing founders day sale through sunday if you choose the extended lead time option
Think I'm finally gonna pull the trigger on some bison superduties (looking like 500 bucks after the rebate and discount)

>>17832695
If I’ve got some poached rhino skin or lion leather or someshit I would pay seven grand for no questions asked. Other than that, if I’ve got my own goddamn “ethically hunted conservation effort” hide I ain’t paying seven grand. I’ll pay 4000 and that old jew can take it or leave it.

>>17833343
>Carmina is probably the cheapest way to get a Galway clone.
L&T have the best Galway clone at cheap.

>>17833376
It's also the only one truly copying it, faux toe, almost exact same pattern and stitching.

>>17833378
Bonafe for a more expensive option is close but a bit further off, you can ask for a faux toe cap instead for a closer copy, they will do it.

>>17833370
for 7k the guy should shoot the lion himself for you, tan it and then make the boot

>>17833340
What model is this

That said, obviously EG is still the way to go, they have by far the best lasts and quality out of all those copies. Bonafe have them beat on construction and customization though, EG won't even do a full shell Galway, let alone any exotics.

>>17833386
This one is 80488, i happen to have a very similar make-up myself. Bad lightning rn, its burgundy not black.

>>17833394
here are the specs if ur interested

>>17833287
>>17833290
kek they even copied the red wing black white black triple puritan stitch to make the ultimate blacksmiths at home boot

>>17833356
It's either the JKs or some Nicks urban loggers in a 6 or 8" boot with this waxed flesh leather and I can't decide

>>17833379
Problem with Bonafe Galway is you have to go to a specific retailer who has exclusivity.

Anyway I've heard good things about this retailer so might still do it.

>>17833417
Lorenzo is fine to deal with, not as quick as skoak, mehra or kostas, but fine.

Ordered the Austrian memeboots, what am I in for?

>>17833394
>>17833395
How old is that order?
540 for shell boots is a steal

>>17833397
Ueah, they look like copycats of blacksmiths. Apparently they're from the new colection. Weird to see an euro brand delve into american heritage type boots. At that price I doubt it's not worth it to fork the extra 100 for blacksmiths.
Until now I only knew about Sendra for their cowboy type boots for women. They also make engineer (marketed as biker) boots for about 250€.

>>17833417
i am working with him now and he is a nice guy. it's slow going but he is really taking his time to make sure we get the sizing and all the options perfect before placing the order.

>>17833430
I've ordered twice through Skoak and the second order I knew what I wanted and we had like 3 emails in one afternoon and that was it.

Anyway, this might be a stupid question but, do you guys haggle on your Bonafe MTOs?
I didn't even try it but I think I could have.

To the anon asking about the Perry/Select and Millwood, just got these in.
Leather feels nice, toebox feels amazing for me, always some issues with pinky toe splay is particularly an issue for me with flatter feet.
Fit is perfect for me, 1/2 size down from brannock and width based on ball msmt with tailors tape, but you can def feel the hard leather heel counter needs some break in
Only had them an hour but would def recommend the Perry Selects so far based on build and leather quality

Since it's engineer season now, who's making nice boots for around <500€ ? How should I wear them exactly ? I don't like black boots if that matter.

>>17833356
Just avoid JK, there are other brands who do Bison, I think all of them do now but maybe nicks was a limited edition.

>>17833469
Damm, those look very nice, anon.

So if I can't get a pair of ropers and my life is over, what boots do I buy now?

>>17833519
Yeah the tobacco stampede is real nice and these things are supportive as shit, figured I'd go with an 8" boot since I'd never had one before and not regretting the decision in the slightest

>>17833522
Don't you have eBay, slav-anon?

>>17833500
Franks is a limited run, I think. But who knows anymore. I’m seeing their guy next week, I’ll ask.

>>17833500
damn I have the JK 300x and they were great with me, fitted me in store and found a pair that just finished production in my size with a composite toe I needed for work and I had my pair in 3 days with free shipping

>>17833530
Franks has limited edition leather, but their Bison is still in stock.

>>17833528
I technically could use ebay, but it's not local and who buys boots from ebay anyways?

>>17833533
From everything I've read, they're great if they fit, but if they don't you're persona non grata and they'll do everything to deny you a replacement, including just straight up ignoring your emails and calls, and if they do get a hold of them they'll blame you for it and refuse to fix the issue.

>buy a lambskin leather jacket from thursday
>get a cowhide jacket
lol

also what is that 100% filler

>>17833539
>filler
huh?
>polyester lining
fucking hell

I'm giving ebay a chance guys but...

any of you /fa/gs going to the stitchdown boot camp in Brooklyn?

>>17833556
>Brooklyn

Oh no I'm white.

>>17833539
That's the composition of every leather jacket in that price range. What did you expect? (Other than lambskin, I mean)

>>17833538
Mail it back, call the card company. Only faggots accept shitty products. There’s a reason custom boots are for sale all the time, fuck ‘em. Customer is always right and you need to exercise your right to shit all over wagies and force them to clean it the fuck up.

>>17833552
Worst case scenario, you won't lose much money... but honestly, that shaft is giving me the ick.

>>17833569
i think its funny because it harkens back to the kickstarter days of thursdays when they offered natty CXL and delivered mutt mystery mexican

its like poetry so that it rhymes

>>17833574
>you won't lose much money

Shipping is 50 bucks. That's like a second pair of shit boots on it's own. I also wonder of any of these sellers will see my country and be like what the fuck I'm not delivering there.

Just buy some Galways and never bother shit used boots that don't fit again

>estimated shipping 16 Nov

>>17833585
>2k for boots

I already have normal boots too. I wanted a more interesting pair like ropers...

>>17833595
JUST FUCKING CALL YOU SPASTIC

>>17833598
Call who, asshole?

>>17833580
Which country? It's not like we're gonna doxx you with that information alone.

>>17833610
Not saying. I also can't find my size in anything for cheaoer than 300 that's not dogshit justin or ariat or other made in china worn to shit and cummed on TRASH. I am so MAD.

>>17833615
Save money. Go on holidays to a real country. Buy boots. Enjoy some sightseeing while you're there.

>>17833634
Do they sell ropers in Japan? Because I'm not too interested in going to the US. I like white Americans but other than that no thanks.

>>17833639
I dunno, but they sell engineers. I didn't do much shopping while I was thete, but notice they are fond of quality footwear and there were plenty of good shoe stores. Red Wings are big in Japan, or were like ten years ago when I was there.

>>17833639
>Do they sell ropers in Japan?
no but they sell plenty of engineers. Wesco and Whites even have a dedicated branch there

Thoughts on red wing blacksmiths?

>>17833585
>galway
>2k
>not even handwelted or handsewn
Is the Galway really that much higher quality than any other veldtschoen English boot like C&J Snowdon or Cheaney Pennine II?

>>17833654
good babby's first boot

>>17833652
>Wesco and Whites
why the fuck would you get those if you're in Japan, might as well go Clinch or Zerrows and the likes.

>>17833665
because he's after a specific american style?

>>17833663
Not him and I do not own any EG footwear but there is something about them that sets them apart.
Also I've never seen shoes that age as good as EG does. Maybe it's the clicking but it's like all their leathers have won the creasing lottery.

it's so painfully obvious at this point this poorfag retard was never serious about buying anything and is just bidding for attention
no matter how many time's you'll tell him to get a job and save up, he'll just come out with the next cheap garbage desperate for your validation

>cobbled.com

>>17833651
>>17833652
What are some decent engineers in yurop?

>>17833720
>someone cucked themselves and paid for that

>>17833720
nice, they are irreversibly fucked
but what do you expect when you bargain hunt on service

>>17833720
Is the untermenschen cobbler race the real bottleneck for how long your boots will actually last?
>just buy heritage leather boots they will last you much longer than modern mass produced footwear
>*cobbler teleports behind you*
Cobbler genocide when?

>>17833739
>what do you expect when you bargain hunt on service
Probably went to the cheapest place he could find and it probably still cost him 60% of what a new boot would have cost considering it's a Jim Green boot, not really worth cobbling, not that they're bad, but why spend money repairing a boot when you can buy another pair for around $100.

>>17833749
this is what no one actually talks about
unironically people should know what cobblers charge before buying these boots
is it really worth buying $300 resolable boots when it costs $150+ and you most likely will have to mail in, because local "cobblers" deliver shit like this

>>17833758
>is it really worth buying $300 resolable boots when it costs $150+ and you most likely will have to mail in, because local "cobblers" deliver shit like this
if you like how they look then yes

>>17833758
How often do you guys resole boots?

>>17833724
See >>17833428 in guessing in most european countries engineers are called biker boots. Sendra has a decent reputation for the price. Perhaps not to Red Wings level, but they no longer make engineers anyway.

We got too cocky White's bros.

I just want a pair of Russell Moccasins bros. when will I stop being poor

>>17834018
>double vamped
>with a top piece that covers the plug joint

>>17834018
>when will I stop being poor
When you get a good job and/ or learn how to stop wasting your money.

>>17833720

>>17833720
>someone looked at this after doing it and not only didnt kill themselves but happily asked for money for it

>>17833469
That was me. Thanks for the review.
Good to know about the sizing cuz all the sizing for PNW boots always seem kind of fucked.

On top of that, my own feet are weird, too. My brannock is 10.5, but I always have to wear 12 sneakers because everything feels too tight.

>>17833720
LOL!
>>17833758
No, probably not, might have been 50 years ago. It's totally worth it with more expensive footwear, all the good bootmakers have their own resole service

What are some brands (in Europe) where you can send your shoes back to them for a resole and they will do a good job?

I know Carmina will absolutely butcher your shoes if you do that. No clue on TLB.

Bonafe offers resoles for 200€ but I have not heard if it's good or bad. I'm sure they will at least try to do a good job, they do not half ass things.

On my last Bonafe order I went with leather sole + Topy, my thinking being that I can replace the Topy at a local cobbler and they will be able to manage.

>>17834223
Also Edward Green and C&J both do resoles well, but it may take time. EG also offers relasting.

>>17834225
EG and C&J do a great job, EG is stupid expensive as you can imagine but C&J is actually fairly priced. Definitely worth it to send your stuff back to them

>>17834223
I beleive Red Wing has licensed or authorized cobblers in Europe.

>>17834018
I love that despite being the ultimate autist-pleasing boots construction (no gap, requiring no filler), Russell Moc still has the common sense to put poron, foam in-between the leather layers.

>>17834279
The difference is that it's rubber foam, and not eva or polyurethane. Much more springy and it doesn't degrade into crumbling dust or rotting plastic.

>>17834295
On the stitchdown interview, he said "we put poron".

>>17834225
>>17834232
Do they resole veldtschoen? And if they do, do they stitch them by hand? Seeing how they do not originally handstitch them. If they re-stitch veldtschoen with machines then I don't see them not missing a bunch previous holes and butchering the upper.

Also you'll notice that on C&J website under their goodyear welted boots they will have an article about how they offer repair. But there is no such article under their Snowdon boots which are veldtschoen constructed.

>>17834279
Reject Russell. Embrace Yuketen.

>>17834334
I underestimate the autist energy here.

>>17833132
i'm an outdoorsnigger in the cascades.
they're logging boots. which means they're made for logging. they're really good for it, i heard about them at first by word of mouth when i did forest service. there's a couple of specialized design choices all the northwest boots have that take away a bit from their ability to serve as a general use boot outside of logging. particularly they have very tall heel stacks. they're very heavy too cause they're made for doing work in.
i love them but i think the northwest companies need to make a version with a toned down heel for mass market now that they're becoming known about.

>>17833132
also if you ever go to buy a pair all these companies have weird quirks with their sizing and some of them you're supposed to order with the wrong size sort of like raw denim due to some weird historical quirks some of the companies never dropped or some reason like that i can't remember. point is to a lot of research on sizing before buying with any northwest logging boot because they dont fit like normal boots and its easy to wait a long time for a pair spend a lot and have it not fit.

Edward Green 64 last vs 72 last?

>>17834343
Some do have an option for a shorter heel stack on the same last, at least nicks does.

>>17834348
Edward Green Galway to be specific.

>i love them but i think the northwest companies need to make a version with a toned down heel for mass market now that they're becoming known about.
i forgot which one but one of the pnw boot companies did already, actually.
same boot just smaller heel stack and less midsole layers of leather to reduce weight.

oh yeah nicks is the one who does you're right.
my feet don't like their last i'm waiting for one of the makers they like to do it :(

>>17834353
kek what don't you like about them specifically
I'm a PNWfag and looking for a pair of high arch logger style boots (probably the urban logger because nicks is doing a limited run waxed flesh leather i'm really digging)
Currently only have exposure to Whites via >>17833469 that I just got and JK with a pair of JK 300x for work so no real exposure to the thicc logger boots

>>17834318
Pretty sure you just hope they hit the same holes.

>>17834348
I like 72 much more in terms of fit, very high volume. 64 fits great too though, i'd suggest 202 or 303.

I asked Carmina and they said they can do an EEE version of Oscar

I want a fully casual boot, might do EEE Oscar on brown CXL next.
With the vibram commando sole that they can do but also do not show on the customizer.

I'm still struggling with my boot situation and have no idea what to do...

>>17834476
Stop living in a third world country

>>17834478
I never started. What's the next step?

>>17834493
Buy the boots you want

Damn...
>https://www.afinepairofshoes.co.uk/collections/derby-boots/products/paul-sargent-cambridge-mahogany

i feel like i should have a pair or red wings
875, blacksmith or ir?

>>17834665
What other boots do you own?

>>17834681
far too many service boots

>>17834682
moc toes it is then

>>17834682
I love my IRs and I love my Beckmans, but if you got too many service boots already I second >>17834683
I didn't like moc toes nor wedge soles at first but got psyop'ed into getting the 875s and now I love them too.

>>17834683
>>17834686
is the ir really a service boot though?
i feel like its more work boot

>>17834696
Well, I wouldn't pair it exactly with beckmans, blacksmiths or 1000 miles which are all almost aesthetically interchangeable, but it's in the same ballpark if you ask me. I've seen classified both as a work boot and as a service boot, so I guess a case could be made for each option.

>>17834663
paul sargent are the best value by english bootmakers, not too far off C&J imo.

>>17834696
most normies will see ir/blacksmith and say
>oh another roundtoe/captoe
moc toes are instantly visually distinctive and they're cool, a worth addition to any man's wardrobe

>>17834754
can i pull them off though?
moc toes feel daunting

I'll be going to Milan for a few days, any recommended place to get some nice looking & comfortable boots?

>paying frank's to resole nicks boots
feels weird, but they said it should be done in a month so already worth it.

>>17834879
just goes to show that the further you stray into the whites offshoot brands the more desperate and ready to whore themselves out they seem to get
no self respecting brand would resole a boot from a competitor
it's stupid to do on every level
it's just common sense that whoever does work on the boot last takes at least partial responsibility for it, beyond the scope of their actual work on it
any mistakes nicks may or may not have made during manufacturing becomes their problem now, the customer will go complain to them first and nicks has every right to deny any liability by saying "should have come to us instead"
why would you stick your head out for a competitor like that, unless you are just that fucking desperate
that is why no other brand would even look at a boot that isn't theirs

>>17834879
>pay nicks to resole
>you revive a falcon with a mismatched upper
hmmm
https://youtu.be/lK_9ajiSeJ0

>>17834916
Or... If the customer likes the work they did, they'll go Franks next time for a new boot.
A manufacturer that doesn't even entertain the idea of doing that kind of work just means that they don't want your business ever.

>>17834916
idk man, i think work is just work.

>>17834946
>hello BMW service center, could you change the breaks on my Toyota?
>what do you mean you don't do that?
>i was going to buy a car from you if you did a good job

>>17834959
>hello BMW service center, could you change the breaks on my Toyota?
yeah they can if they want to

>>17834879
>>paying frank's to resole nicks boots
>feels weird
From my understanding all of the PNW companies will resole their competitors boots.
And yeah it makes sense to do that if you want it back quicker,.
What model is getting a resole?

>>17834985
it's a pair of roberts. i bought them super cheap off a friend, but i don't like the heel and already have casual boots. getting them to put v-100 soles on them and a replace the packer style heel with a logger heel.

>>17834991
Oh nice, sounds like it will turn out well.

>>17834959
bad example, people take their cars to other brand's service centers all the time

>>17834916
>How dare you resole the boots that are made identical to yours
btgoyims unlocking new autistic complaint.

>>17834526
They don't sell them in yurop.

Every time I've seen Whites boots they look cool and well made and then I see people wearing them and they look goofy as fuck

>>17835063
I'm in yurop and I can buy Justins.

What's this style or shape of toe called in cowboy boots? Pointy, but not super pointy, a bit rounded, not not a round toe. Definiyevely not a squate toe.

>>17835326
#2 toe in Packer boots, which is like a lace up cowboy boot.

>>17833749
probably one of those 50ft2 locksmith-cobler-engraving stores that also sell phone cases and fake leather belts every run down mall has.

>>17835338
Yep, that's it. Thanks, anon.

>that backstay stitching
Quality craftsmanship there, and these are the made in USA

>>17835493
it's not just the stitching, the heel block is so nasty
>the rough belt "finish"
>the massive bulk contrasted with almost zero heel cup
>the wonky taper that starts below the rubber

also now thursday is implemeting a restocking fee after 3 returns
so much for free returns lmao
can't reroll thursdays infinitely anymore hoping they won't have glaring defects the next time

>>17835522
ill give thursday this one because the guy was a genuine retard
he ordered 11.5 based on their advice decided he didnt like the fit so ordered 11 AND 12, realized 11.5 was the best fit so he returned both the 11 and 12 then returned the new 11.5 when he got it

>>17835528
just saw the pic and didn't read this guys whole essay
>the next pair of 11.5’s they sent were more snug than the first—too much so. So I exchanged them for another pair of 11.5’s, hoping the second, snug pair were an anomaly. Nope. Too snug as well.
oh man this guy really is retarded

>>17835528
>go on thursday web page
>use their sizing guide in EUR
>they recommend a 10.5US
>use their sizing guide in US
>they recommend a 9.5US
I get the EUR and US sizes do not always translate well, but a whole size difference in boots is huge. If I didn't knew better -and was actually about to buy boots from them- it would have been a (minor, relative) disaster.

>>17832915
bimaterial
based or cringe?

>>17835522
Based thursday. Funny enough there was some news recently here in Sweden about how companies are shutting individuals off from buying from them since apparently there are legit retards(mostly women I'd imagine) out there that have a return rate of like 90%.

I don't want to be forced to buy a boot that like 4 people have already tried on and creased the leather. ONE RETURN PER CUSTOMER!

>>17835630
pic for insta
>teehee, look at my new expensive outfit and designer handbag
return

>>17835603
reminds me of a jungle boot

>>17835630
I once ordered shell Bonafe boots from Skoak (RTW) and returned them.
I felt bad because I actually put them on and walked 2-3 steps so I definitely flexed the shell a bit.

Anyway I ordered MTO shell boots from them afterwards so they definitely got their money's worth. But whoever bought them afterwards would probably notice.

>>17835603
Seems fine if used for work.

>>17835522
Can't really blame Thursday too much here if the customer is that much of a retard.

>>17835522
Can't really blame Thursday too much when the customer is so much of a retard.

Viberg Archive sale going on
>https://www.vibergarchive.com/collections/all

>>17835731
I could cop a pair of my own Viberg home slippers for a hundreds bucks

>>17835646
Influencers and wannabes, but also lots of women get dresses for events and try to return them later.

>>17835716
He's a retard for sure, but as someone who is always insecure about getting the correct size, I kind of understand. Of course, in his case I would have accepted the flagging instead of complaining about a reasinable policy.
That's why I prefer to buy in brick and mortar stores, where I can try different sizes, but that's impossible with some brands.

>>17835738
lel
I thought the country boot looked pretty cool. Never heard about the Viberg country boot before
>https://www.vibergarchive.com/collections/all/products/country-boot-olive-chromepak
>https://www.vibergarchive.com/collections/all/products/country-boot-oak-chromepak

>>17835744
is chromepak similar to dublin?

>>17835749
chromepak is CXL with a ton of extra oils/waxes

dublin is the full veg tannage but done on cow instead of horse

Viberg runs large don't they? My normal boot size is 9.5. I should order these in 9 yes?

>>17835774
Viberg is normal UK size for length, and their "E" width is not wide but actually normal width and maybe even a little narrow.

I'm normally UK10.5 and I have Alden on US11 and it's a good fit but Viberg UK10 was too small for me, and too narrow.

>>17835750
I think chromepak is just chrome tanned whereas CXL is combination tanned(chrome and veg)

I did not order anything this Carmina MTO weekend.

I already have two pairs of shoes on order.
I do want a casual brown CXL boot from Carmina but not yet.

You know how Viberg has characteristically wide open facings on the laces for a more casual look

I wonder if I could ask Bonafe to do this.
Surely can't be difficult, just need longer laces.
Bonafe can already do gussetted tongues if you ask too.

Obviously they'll do handwelt not stitchdown, but you could get them to do some nice french binding along the leather edge etc too.

>>17835816
If you ask, Bonafe will also do the puffy throat at the top
I wonder if that's comfy

damn the baker's russian calf vibergs are nice, can't wait for my coniston in that leather.

>>17835828
I've heard it's uncomfortable and not flexible.

>>17835833
probably, its oak bark tanned

I noticed these on White's site on the collab section.
As far as I can tell, the specs say it's a Perry Select, but they slapped on some additional patches and are selling it for $40 less.

Is this potentially a good buy?

>>17835865
Interesting that’s what it looks like. I posted earlier ITT about my Perry selects I just got in. They seem great, going to do a weeks worth of work in them this week on travel so we’ll see how the end of day comfort is but they’re my first 8” boot and supportive af and with the insole they’re comfy

what pants would you go for paramemes ? ( no slim or skinny edition )

>>17835893
Straight, cuffed high

>>17835865
Perry's are just an incredible boot for the money. If you want the select leather but don't like the patch on the tongue it's nothing a seam ripper can't fix.

XBXS, the guys copying Clinch from China, are now teasing an Alden 401 clone
i wonder how that will work out since their cheapest plain toe boot goes for $900
who the fuck wants a fucking $900+ chinese Indy copy, other than the one guy on youtube that probably set this up to finally dunk on Alden by cutting the "ULTIMATE INDY" in half

give me a reason not to

>>17835958
the pattern is just half of it, trubalance last is undoubtedly better than whatever their last is. I couldn't give a shit that its better built.

>>17835958
as expected they are not even close to getting the last and toe stitching right, just like every other copy before

>>17835962
how is the indy so uncopiable?

>>17835968
its the last and shit qc

>>17835968
nobody is commited enough to develop and introduce a last specifically to copy another boot into their lineup, because it's just too expensive to do
also they just don't get that the stitch is there to visually slim down the boot, it doesn't just follow the outline of the last, like on every copy and the flattened "U" shape in the front distracts from a taller toe box

>>17835960
Get the Whites
No better boot for 400 bucks
Except maybe the franks patriot but that’s not in the same conversation

If you’re looking for a moc toe and not considering Whites’ you’re doing yourself a disservice.
No comparison

>>17835960
What are those?

>>17836016
Looks like Grant Stone to me.

>>17836040
I think you're correct. I knew that toe shape rang a bell.

Deciding between a pair of redwing blacksmith 3345 and redwing iron ranger 08111. Any suggestions or advice?

Thanks

>>17835960
Doesn't Grant Stone have Black Friday sales every single year? Why not wait?

How could I impart some shine on matte black leather shoes? I wouldn't like them to be so different from my belt and watchstrap.

>>17835828
If only it was on the 1035 last and gyw instead of stitchdown. My experience with Viberg has always been a let down and it seems like C&J is the way to go for the Russian calf.

>>17836107
depends if you like the cap toe or not
the blacksmith is the more subtle choice and has the better looking hardware+ rolled top
on the iron ranger the cap toe adds to the already bulbous toe of the boot and gives it a very characteristic bumpy clown shoe silhouette, but that's what makes these boots iconic, for better or worse
the 8111 is ok, but i think the copper rough and tough leather on the 8085 has more character and after a month darkens to what the amber harness looks new anyway

>>17836153
Thanks. This is my first non-thrifted boot purchase and I'm going to the redwing store tomorrow to try out a few pairs but leaning towards the blacksmith.
The blacksmith looks to be a bit more versatile, casual wear and maybe can be dressed up a bit, what do you think?

>>17836153
>>17836163
this the amber harness darkens to a nice chocolate brown over time, less character than the copper rough and tough

>>17833585
forget boots, that's a cute kitty

>>17836152
i will never understand what people find appealing about stitchdown
stitchdown is the cheaper, less resolable construction method, that is somehow heralded as more "hardcore" because it's theoretically more water resistant than GYW
in practice that doesn't matter, especially not on something like viberg

damn they really are the 875 killers

>>17836163
good to try them on first, the last just doesn't fit everybody

which is a good brand for comfortable boots that look good? I'm gonna be doing a trip with a lot of daily walking

>>17836193
white's perry

>>17836193
>>17836195
Second this but get the Selects.
Worth it for the leather upgrade alone but the heel counter will fit hug your foot much better once broken in compared to the leather board in the regular perrys

>>17836193
probably the worst idea to buy new boots right before a trip
breaking them in on the trip will annihilate your feet
even buying 2-3 weeks before isn't going to prevent blisters if you're going to be walking all day there

>>17836193
how much time do you have to break in the boots? you want them ready before the trip. new, quality, boots, will wreck your feet if you try to walk a lot in them as soon as you get them.

>>17836204
I would normally agree with this but I just got my new boots in >>17835994 right before travel and said fuck it I’ll bring them and break them in this week since I’m on travel for work
Traveling 11+ hours in them today, comfy out of the box - only break in has been the leather heel counter but it hasn’t been so bad
Def wouldn’t try this with smokejumpers or builder pros though

What are you saving up for in preparation of Black Friday bros
For me it might be some 8" Perry Selects, I don't own any moc toes

>>17836218
anons have kinda made me think i should get a pair of selects too since ive been looking a mocs

>>17836218
>Black Friday
Who does the best sales?
I’m the anon that JUST got the 8” Perry selects (fucking awesome boot btw) and my gf ordered me some nicks urban loggers for Christmas so I don’t need shit butttt if whites or franks has a sale on their wedge soles on the 55 last or some packers idk if I could resist
Almost impulse bought some JK bison super duty’s with the honey sole during their founders sale this weekend but decided against it

>>17836225
>I'm the anon that JUST got the 8" Perry selects
I barely open this thread anymore, can you link your post please

>>17836231
>>17833469 >>17835994

hows locktober going fellas?

>>17836237
Thanks
As for Black Friday sales pretty much every company popular here does one

>>17836225
Speaking of Nick's they have something weird going on in their payment processing.
Whenever you pick the models that are Quick Ship, for some reason, they never charge me CA sales tax or shipping.
Buying anything that isn't Quick Ship charges you both sales tax and shipping.
Once they have another sale, I'm thinking of getting something. Maybe a Ridgeline.

el oh el

>>17836334
uhmm chud this is $600 boot quality without the markup

>>17832915
What makes made in mexico a red flag? Is it a red flag by way of cotton garments too?

>>17836341
>What makes made in mexico a red flag?
see>>17836334

for me, it's Trumans

>>17836334
How do you even do that to leather? Just melt some plastic into a mold on it?

>>17836351
>leather

>>17836183
Stitchdown is more trad and being trad and old timey is part of the allure

>>17836359
>santalum
12 month lead time with no communication

>>17836411
>>17836359
I like those soles better than the red wing moc toe sole. and the slimmer toe profile. anything similar?

>>17836359
>>17836411
Want to also be able to order a pair of custom boots. I already own C&J Molton, what other boot should I buy to be fully confident in my size? Probably Red Wings or something? Red Wings seems to usually be referenced when they're trying to guide you into what is the correct sizing.

>>17835630
>return rate of like 90%
These are people that buy clothes to wear them once and return them.

Bought the Out Legacy Camion boots. They’re like a cross between a Chelsea and minimal cowboy boot.

Super sexy and smell great.

>>17836152
they had one in 1035 too, not sure if any sizes left.

Should men wear Doc Martens?

>>17836447
Sexy

>>17836107
Cap toes are pleb.

>>17836107
I don't own blacksmiths but I own Iron Rangers 8111 and Beckmans. Assuming the blacksmiths' leather are similar to the beckmans, here's my comparission between the two:

The Iron Rangers have an oil tanned leather which makes it supple, flexible and easy to break in. They're probably the easiest real heritage boots in that regard, break in period might take from a couple of days to about a week tops. The leather also requires very little maintenance, tends to patina very fast and looks worn in pretty fast. You should be aware that since the leather is so flexible and they have a fairly stiff captoe, they tend to crease and bunch a lot between the captoe and the facings, so I strongly encourage to use shoe trees on these boots. In spite of all the "clown shoes meme" they look quite sleek and less bulbous once on your feet than in pics. Overall a versatile and more understated boot in person. I'm very happy with mine.

Beckmans (some of this might not apply to blacksmiths) have a thicker and very stiff leather that takes way more to break in, but you can feel the boots adapting with each wear. Overall they feel like they are better built, like tanks on your feet and also noticeabily heavier. In spite of not having a cap toe, they look more bulbous on the foot, but that might be due to the sole, which is different from the blacksmiths (similar to IRs) so could not be an issue with those. The leather requires more maintenance and you might not need to use shoe tress, at least until they're really broken in.

They're both great boots and I'm really happy with both, really hard to go wrong with either. Since you have access to a store, just see them in person and try them both, pick the ones ypu like the most on your feet.

Red Wings run big. My feet are 275mm long and a D width. My beckmans are 9D (270mm) and my IRs are a 9.5D. While I enjoy the extra toe room the IRs have, I ended up puting a thin leather insole on them for a better fit.

>>17836495
Your Beckmans are shorter than your feet?

Received my pair by ray/renavgoods today, took only a month from paying the deposit to having them delivered to me. Avoided customs and vat too. Would recommend.

>>17836641
No, they're sized for 270mm long feet (according to the label) they still got some room in the front of my toes but not as much as the iron rangers sized for 275mm feet. The beckmans fit snug but comfortable (more with each wear) but I can't put even a thin leather insert on them without strangling my feet. The IRs ended up feeling a bit off which I solved with said thin leather insert.
I'm still undecide which fit I like best, if I wear my beckmans right after my irs, I feel like they're too tight for about an hor or two. But if I wear my IRs after the beckmans, I feel like my feet are swimmin on them even with the leather insert, even if my toes enjoy all that extra room.
I haven't worn the beckmans as much as the iron rangers so I guess the veredict will come once they're fully broken in (the dole is still pretty stiff and it's hard to flex it).

>>17836655
Your pair of what?

>>17832915
Idk i fuckin love these bros

>>17836447
I like them

>>17836195
>>17836203
I'll take a proper look, they seem close to what I had in mind, thanks!

>>17836204
>>17836211
fair point, I won't have much time to break them in so I'll try putting some inner soles or something if it hurts too much

Can someone recc a laceless boot with a decent profile and a decent heel that isnt totally clownishly cuban? danke

Can you guys help me understand something?
I notice with a lot of lugged, goodyear welted boots there is no stitching on the outsole. Take these Meermin chelseas for example. So does this mean the upper is stitched to the welt but then the sole is... glued on to the welt? Doesn't gluing lugs onto the bottom of a boot defeat the purpose of lugs and a Goodyear welt? Now the sole's weakest link is as strong as glue- not stitching- so you may well have forgone stitching altogether. Also, the boots are ruggedized with lugs by way of making them... less rugged with a glued outsole? This seems fucking retarded, am I missing something? Any recs for fully stitched chelsea boots?

>>17836756
The welt is stitched to the midsole, the rubber outsole is glued into the midsole. This way, once you worn off the rubber outsole enough, replacing it it's a matter of tearing it off and gluing a new one.
Some boots do have the outsole glued and stitched, but if you need to replace the rubber putsole, you need to take everything off, which is more expensive.
Genetally speaking, the outsole will wear faster than the midsole, so sometimes you'll just need to replace the putsole while the rest are still perfectly fine.

Has anyone had C&J snowdons?

Right now I'm wearing speedlace combat boots because if I commute on foot I get to walk through some woods I like. I'd really like a pair of chelsea boots though. Do you guys have any opinions on how hard rubber or dainite soles would stack up to a 45 minutes brief daily hike? Up until now I've only ever used crepe, leather, or soft, lugged rubber.

>>17836768
Ahh I see. Thanks so much. So by gluing all a cobbler has to do is slap a new outsole on when the old one is done rather than operating on the whole boot. I guess this is best in cases where you use a soft rubber outsole and use it a lot.

>>17836784
>>17836756
yeah some boots have the outsole stitched/nailed into the midsole. this makes it more firmly attached but obviously more difficult to resole. If its glued all the cobbler needs to do to replace a worn down outsole is rip it off and glue on a new one to the midsole. softer soles that wear faster are usually just glued.

>>17832915
what's the boot in op pic?
>>17835603
bimaterial leather boots usually to my eyes look fucking ugly when new, then they look amazing when heavily worn in, if the leathers were chosen with some care and thought put into it (aka the shoemaker chose them for how they will look after wearing in, not how they look brand new)
good for work boots imo.

>>17836729
I wanted this and the solution is a pair of ropers, but I'm cursed and I can't obtain any. I want to die. I would get so many bitches if I had a pair of ropers I swear. They look super comfortable too.

>>17836756
yeah its pretty dumb its only glue holding the outsole on

>Any recs for fully stitched chelsea boots?
RM Williams gardeners

>>17836813
Wesco Boss in natural roughout

>>17836784
Yrah, pretty much. Harder, heavy duty rubber soles can be sometimes stitched to the midsole, or in some cases the welt. I'd suggest you check Brian the bootmaker on youtube, he has comfy vids where he goes through the process of fully resoling boots. You might find that interesting.

Don't forget this moc toe exists in Europe.

Sure it's not Horween, but it's a damn good price.

I have no personal experience with it nor Yanko, but I do intend to order one at some point.

now i ain't a sex pervert, but that look works imo

>>17836836
Get chelseas. Normies can't tell the difference.

>>17832915
someone explain retarded fashion of wearing tall boots under your jeans? Calf is supposed to protect not to be "protected". Only time it makes sense is maybe when you are wearing thicc leather trousers that indeed offer protection and are almost impossible to tuck anyway. In case of thin fabric you can clearly see calves of tall boos underneath. And I don't see that as an aesthetic look.

When I see photos of actual cowboys (19th century/early 20th) they wear trousers tucked inside tall boots. Only cases when calves are hidden is in cases of leather pants or actually pretty short calves where trouser leg can easily slip outside on it's own. And of course barely any of them wear jeans.They were trousers of mine workers, not cowboys owning actual cattle.

>>17836917
I'm not a short faggot from reddit so no I will not be getting ch*lseas.

>>17836934
because you'll look like this>>17836916
a sex pervert

>>17836729
>>17836836
wesco morrison

>>17836945
If that's how sex pervert look It must be murrican puritanism behind emerging of that fashion of not tucking in. That fashion was born just around the '40s. Earlier generations and literally all other countries outside the US were tucking boots in if they had tall calves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfahOoQTByM

ITS UP

>>17836948
>600 bucks
>only sold in the us
>20 months lead time
>ugly logo stamped on both boots

I want to call you the n-word for recommending this to me.

>>17836935
You won't be getting ropers either LMAOOOOO!!!

>>17836968
post a better alternative then retard.

also you didn't specify

>>17836969
Unfortunately it seems like it.

>>17836970
I don't have one, asshole. That's the whole problem. Ropers are the best and I can't get a pair. I don't know what an alternative is. You're supposed to tell me. I just know for a fact that this wesco morrison isn't it.

>>17836934
I shall have added that "boots cut" jeans seems to pair OK with taller boots. Just see the >>17836729.

At least until calves are not wide as heck. Wide calves paired with narrow trouser legs worn outside looks like disaster.

>>17836935
There is nothing wrong with wearing chelsea boots while tall,especially when you have muscular legs. Tall boots when paired wrongly with rest of wardrobe can actually make male silhuette look shorter.

>>17836977
>I don't have one
yeah that's what i thought

>>17836985
No thanks, I'm not gay.

>>17836986
But you knew that from the start because that's what I'm in here asking for. An alternative to the best boot of all time, the roper.

>>17836992
but the morrisons ARE ropers

>>17836992
>No thanks, I'm not gay.
Then what are you even doing in boots thread?

>>17836962
It isn't him addressing the rose anvil review, it's him answering the questions people had in the FB group for them.
It is interesting to know that they emailed him telling him to contact the other collaborator who he ordered from to change the sizing, and he never did, so basically it was Weston's fault he didn't get the right size cause he didn't check his email.

>>17836996
But they're expensive, not delivered here, and you have to wait until next winter for them to get made. They also have fat soles that ruin the aesthetic a bit, alongside the logos.

>>17836999
Shut up.

>>17837008
just say you're poor and cannot delay gratification next time

>>17837008
just look at cowboy boot brands if you want ropers

>>17837008
>Shut up.
Why so insecure? Are you closeted?

>>17837009
That would be a lie.

>>17837011
Ok captain obvious.

>>17836431
Something from Alden on the Barrie or Trubalance

>>17837015
>Ok captain obvious.
you're welcome, bye bye now

>>17837019
Do come back with more amazing advice later.

>>17836962
Very reasonable and professional respons. I also can't imagine harassing a company just because someone else gives a bad review. Who has time to sit and send emails shitting on Wesco's customer service when you don't even have Wesco boots and haven't dealt with them?

>here's a boot that matches what you want
>but do you have the same but for 200 bucks
>no i'm not poor

>>17837007
>it was Weston's fault
Weston himselg admited it publicly, but his fanboys didn't miss a chance to mob a brand. I fucking hate social media.
That being said, having a nail sticking out through the insole is unacceptable on 700$ boots.

>>17837049
he's been doing this for the last 5 threads, so why do you engage with him?

Looking at getting a pair of heritage boots, I'm a newfag to boots though and would like something that will last me several years.
I am between the iron ranger and the moc toe, but am open to other brands as well.
I will be using them for day to day wearing, like walking around town and driving.
Any recs?

>>17837305
also which are better in snow and rain.

>>17837305
875s and IR are classic babby's first good boot

consider the White's select perry, even better materials than the Red Wings

>>17837308
You have to water proof either one with something like sno seal.
DESU I'd recommend something more like Truman boots, unless what you want is that exact style.
I feel like red wings are kinda over priced.

NEW NEW NEW
>>17837328
>>17837328
>>17837328

NEW NEW NEW
>>17837328
>>17837328
>>17837328

>>17837310
>>17837319
Thank you, both Truman and Perrys look great. I will look into them and choose