/fa/ - Fashion

>I-I-IS THAT COLOUR VARIATION IN A NATURAL HIDE
>IN A SPOT THAT WOULD BE COVERED UP BY A KILTIE AND LACES
>AAAAAAAAAA I'M GOING INSAAAAAAAAAAAAANE

>>17823664
>there's a reputable boot shop in my town
>he can just wake up in the morning one day
>not even brush teeth
>walk straight into his truck with pyjamas still on
>not even take his gun because it's a white people town
>drive a cool 20 minutes downtown
>not even pay for parking because US towns aren't rat mazes
>walk into a store and say howdy
>spend 10 minutes trying a few pairs real quick
>buy one made in the USA for cheap, supporting his country's economy
>get a footlong sub and a dr pepper from the eatery next door to go
>speed on the way home real quick because he has a speed camera detector in his bigass truck
>dog and wife greet him
>go back in bed for a quick nap

God I wish I was American.

>>17823692
cope

>>17823689
https://www.loake.com/product/mccauley-brown/
I need some boots for BC but potentially wet weather
I have a mild latex allergy so can't have a rubber sole
Thoughts on these?

>>17823701
And yet we still buy our boots online.

>>17823705
seem a little pricy for a blundstone copy desu

>>17823707
I've been wanting to buy a pair of ropers but being yuropean I'm struggling to figure out what size I need. Dealing with the long delivery times, expensive shipping, VAT and customs struggles, if I have to return a pair because they're not the right size I'd kms.

>>17823709
If you buy a lot of boots from the U.S. it would be worth buying a brannock device and calling up brands and asking them to size you over the phone.

>>17823692
well, rose anvil taught me that the quality of a boot is judged based on the ammount of nitpicks i can come up with and everything above $300 is overpriced
i expect the boots i'm going to neglect to be immaculate

>>17823709
Just call and ask.

>>17823709
just have phone sex with the boot store employee

>>17823705
>>17823708
https://www.schuh.co.uk/mens/red-wing-blacksmith-brown-boots/3220686020/
These are leather while also claiming to be waterproof.
Thoughts?

>>17823731
blacksmiths are great, better than the loake pair for a babby's first boot

>>17823723
>>17823719
>>17823714
>eeem helow ken yoo plez hel mi wif bout sayz??

>>17823734
>YUH GAT WUN HELLUVA ACKCENT FRIEND WHAR YUH FRUM?

redwing refusing to make more beckmans is a hate crime

>>17823750
Good thing I got mine in time (almost missed on them)

I know this is a White's general and you all hate Nigs, but does anyone hete own the Americana? They look so kino in that dark brown shade.

>>17823769
This is a frank's general, we just let the white's bratty bottoms think they own the place

lorenzo reached out and will send me a pair of bonafes to try for fit. that's very nice and unexpected. thanks to the anons from the last thread pointing me his way.

>>17823682
Why do they cost the same if they are worse then?

>>17823783
They aren't worse because someone doesn't like that the tongue is a different color.
Their standard boots are made with more expensive and thicker materials.
Part of the $900 in the viberg is that they click extremely picky and throw out lots of leather that is thinner than White's does.
No one is making you buy White's people buy Whites because of what they are, not because they are Viberg or Trickers.

>>17823777
nice, that's a free pair of boots
just never send them back and go through another retailer

>>17823787
>Their standard boots are made with more expensive and thicker materials.
I doubt they are more expensive, especially because like you said, they don't have as much waste product due to not being picky at all and having barely any QC.

>>17823789
maybe dont be a degenerate

>>17823789
I am usually sent 1 boot, not a whole pair usually. I dont think he sent a pair.

>>17823807
>I doubt they are more expensive
It is more expensive because it's a heavier weight leather from the same tannery like say CXL from Horween.
The insoles and mid soles and heel counters are more expensive because of how thick they are.

>>17823812
I doubt any CXL is more expensive than high quality calf or let alone reverse calf.
Here is a pair of Lofgrens vs White's, i know Lofgren are also oak bark tanned.

>>17823819
>I doubt any CXL is more expensive than high quality calf or let alone reverse calf.
You have to compare apples to apples, White's also has high quality calf as an option.
>Here is a pair of Lofgrens vs White's, i know Lofgren are also oak bark tanned.
Lofgren is a different brand from Viberg and charges considerably more than either company, I never said that White's uses thicker midsoles and insoles than Lofgren.

>>17823822
those Lofgren were cheaper.
Here's tricker's vs white's

>>17823826
>those Lofgren were cheaper.
Cheaper than $700?
>Here's tricker's vs white's
You can clearly see that the leather on the White's is thicker.

>lofgrens cheaper than whites
what are you smoking

>>17823826
what happened to the rubber top cap of the heel

>>17823827
the midsole is the same, if not thicker on the tricker's. The upper leather is thicker, but its also not even from the same tannery.
>>17823830
its only visible 2/3 of the way to the end.

>>17823731
Red Wings are great. Not waterproof, but water resistant for sure.

>>17823834
Idk looks like the mid sole on the trickers might be the same thickness of the midsole and insole of the Whites, but the insole on the trickers is thinner.

>>17823809
say one of your feet is slightly larger, but you don't want to go mismate if you don't have to, so send both for try-on
problem solved, free boots aquired

>>17823839
It is, but I also don't think i notice that, i feel my most comfortable and soft insole is actually in a pair of aldens.

>>17823847
Sure, but we are just talking about the price of specific components.
Plus Whites are handsewn stichdown I don't think trickers does that.
These are reasons why they cost $700 and if you add a bunch of things it can go up to $935.

>>17823850
trickers is just plain gyw yes so the process is significantly faster and cheaper to produce

>>17823787
If I get a pair of boots the tongues better be the same goddamn color I don’t give a fuck what material they are

>>17823875
>I need my smoke jumpers to have the same tongue color while I'm battling wild fires in the wilderness for weeks at a time.
>why
>because I just do ok
LMAO, it really shows that you guys wear dress shoes to work.

>>17823876
>implying anyone here is a firefighter
>implying anyone here except shills actually has a job

>>17823890
I fought wildfires in my 20s wearing these.

>>17823891
>dunlop
>not honeywell
big yikes

>>17823894
everybody wore Dunlop's because they were sold at Mark's in town

The idea that Grant Stone is better than Alden is pure cope. I’ll admit that they are good entry level boots with decent leather options; however, their lasts leave a lot to be desired and their qc isn’t as good as people say. Pic related are the “full grain” insoles on my pair after 3 wears. Both are already showing signs of grain break (second pair and I see it alot with GS). The footbed doesn’t really conform but just “sinks” and there is no smooth transition from the heel insert to the arch (You can see the line where it drops off and feel it when walking).

>>17823935
Pic related is Alden’s “inferior” split grain insole after 6 years of wear.

Is Rancourt a good leather shoes maker?

>>17823935
>>17823943
what level of cope is telling people you dont think the insole is pretty enough?

>>17823948
they make good handsewn mocs

bewt

>>17823935
looks like the insole on a pair of my aldens kek

>>17823769
Last year when I first started researching higher end boots on the minimum $600+ price range, I originally put in an order for some Americanas. I came to this general and asked everyone's input and they all pretty much said that I needed to cancel the order and get some Whites instead. Sure, I caved into the pressure, but in the end it was the right move. Whites is the only PNW brand that still hand welts their boots and in my opinion their 350 cruisers and cutters are the most universal and timeless looking PNW boot out there. Although I was originally drawn to the appearance of the Americana because of its more refined essence of the Iron Ranger, its something I quickly grew out of once I familiarized myself with all of the other infinitely better 6 inch work boot makers out there. The Americana is really JUST the essence of the Iron Ranger and nothing more, and because of that its really just Babby's first adult boot, which isn't really a good thing

and suddenly anon goes quiet

>>17823996
There’s nothing to talk about

>>17824000
>alden insole gets posted
>looks the same
>suddenly the time to discuss grant stones failures has passed
lol

>>17824001
Oh. That wasn’t me. I assume every time someone calls for anon they’re talking to me.

>>17823980
I’ve seen it on nearly every GS boot. None of my Aldens have this issue but I also don’t buy seconds let alone firsts from ShoeMart so I’ve never seen any of the other issues people claim to have.

>>17824007
they aren't seconds.

>>17823982
TMDWU dude

>>17824006
i love you

>>17823935
>>17823943
I think my Grant Stones are very good quality work in general, but I've gotten 2 pairs (first pair had the toe split within a few months from minimal wear) and both have had an offset tongue on one of the boots. Their QC is definitely fucking abysmal.

talking about the insoles and insides of boots. Norman Vilalta solved sock liners with their quilted insole. Wish every maker did this. Otherwise, Enzo Bonafe have the best lining leather.

>>17824020
>both have had an offset tongue on one of the boots
the pattern is just weird and makes the left tongue slip as opposed to most shoes that have the right slip
this isnt just me its a well established grant stone thing

>>17824022
is that comfortable?

>>17824025
Yea its great, those boots are probably my most comfortable with how light they are and the sneaker-like Vibram gumlite sole.

>>17824020
This >>17823935 is my 2nd pair. The first pair were exchanged for insole issues. The replacement pair is an improvement but not by much. I would exchange them but I like the contrast between the regular and smooth ostrich I got on this pair.

Whites 350 or MP?

>>17824023
My current pair has a slip on the right boot. As far as fuck-ups go, it's bearable.
>>17824028
I have a pair of NST from them. I would have gotten a refund if I didn't like their design so much. I thought about getting a pair from Carmina, but Grant Stone's design is so much easier to dress down.

one day they'll do it

what is the black man's boot?

>>17824049
Timbs

>>17824049
nigs

>>17824049
timbs

>>17823992
>Whites is the only PNW brand that still hand welts their boots
Not true Frank's will "hand welt" all their boots for $50, compare that to the machine stichdown model price vs handsewn model price for Whites for, it's more like a $125 fee to get the hand sewn version from Whites.
There aren't that many heritage boots from Frank's though.

>>17823789
i couldn't do that.

>>17823809
he did say pair in the email, but maybe it's just going to be one shoe.

>>17824039
i have a pair of mps and love them, but if i could do it over i would definitely get 350 cruisers.

I wish I was an American where at least I know I'm free and also I could get wesco icebreakers

Is it okay to remove your insoles?

My boots seem to fit better without them, and it doesn’t feel uncomfortable (just noticeably harder). I did try the size up and they were just too big.

I’m not going to irreversibly fuck up my feet am I?

>>17824201
>I’m not going to irreversibly fuck up my feet am I?
No, but what's the point of wearing boots if it's not comfortable ? You should try a different last, or ask if they have some option not displayed (for whatever reason) on their website.

>>17824087
I was originally just looking at MPs and nothing else but the more I see the 350 Cruisers the more I like them

>>17824050
>>17824067
I don't like timbs
what's the black man's second boot?

I absolutely despise the look of new leather that hasn't been broken in. creases are beautiful and this obsession with hiding and preventing them is silly to me

>>17824419
i second this
love me some worn leather

>>17824419
I enjoy the dress shoes that often have the insect shell scale, like on Prince Charles’ Lobbs.
>>17824435
Beautiful stuff.

Carmina just sent me an email - they are doing bespoke.

$1600 for bespoke shoes is very cheap.

But bespoke shoes are lot more than just scanning a foot. They often require multiple fittings, and obviously Carmina build quality is not up to bespoke standards (celastic heels etc).

We'll see.

>>17824419
That's a beautiful split toe, who made it?
is it a dover?

>>17824475
That's not a dover, its by St. Crispins

>>17824479
Interesting because St. Crispins has a reputation for bad creasing due to them using crust leather a lot.

>>17824482
I'd like to try them, but a simple boot by them is almost 2 Bonafe boots, so i don't see a reason to.

>>17824475
Saint Crispin
if I felt like spending fuck you amounts of money on a shoe I'd get something from them

>>17824473
On the other hand Carmina has such a huge variety of shoes and boots that if they get this right you can get your foot scanned and then get almost all your non-sneaker shoes from them bespoke.

Next thing they need is non-retard resoling, just charge $200 for a full on refurbish (resole, relast, thorough clean) and do it proper and everyone would do it.
Carmina can do resoles but according to everyone it takes 6+ months and they will butcher the shoes.

>>17824491
I am more worried about their best shoemakers being busy with the bespoke orders during the custom weekend

>>17824494
I took advantage of the custom weekend once and they sent me the wrong color shoes.
I still liked them and kept them but this time I just placed my boots order now ahead of time to be sure.

>>17824473
Carmina doesn't do plastic heels retard

>>17824496
Carmina has been pretty good for me, only messed up once with a missing stormwelt.

The thing I will never understand with Carmina is why they ship the shoes OUTSIDE the shoe bags which are included in the box.
My last order the suede on the inside of one shoe has an imprint of the ridgeway sole of the other shoe.
It's on the inside and the imprint mostly disappeared with time and brushing but what the hell

>>17824506
literally everyone does this, i think the exception were Alden and JLB.

>>17824509
>literally everyone does this, i
grant stone ships the boots in the bags because why they fuck would you not

>>17824514
just package your shit properly bro

>>17824509
Bonafe ships them in their bags too.
Or maybe Skoak does that when they get them from Bonafe and open them first.

Quick question. I bought a boot off ebay internationally and the seller gave me the wrong size. I asked for a request, he accpeted it. He never gave me the return label until I kept bothering hin with messages. He then sends the return label but its only a tracking number. Am I getting scammed here? He says hes new to returns but I really dont think I believe that.

>>17824520
yea i just checked, bonafe did too.

>>17824523
the return label should be a normal shipping label + 3 copies of the import declaration thing to print out.

>>17824528
It literally only shows a tracking number and the carrier on the return page. What the fuck.

>>17824541
Looked at it on my PC and see the label now. Mobile ebay sucks ass.

>>17824523
F

>>17823935
grant stone is absolutely overrated and i'm never buying another pair from them again

this is the lining on my practically new GS shell longwing and it's rolling up on itself, because it's not stitched
the leo last sucks and is really narrow in the toes, i'm D width on brannock and these are E width, still pushes on my big toe, when this is not a problem with any other shoe/boot i've ever owned
the shoe is incredibly stiff and rigid
there is glue visible on the uppers in spots, where the panels overlap
there is a place where the stitching goes over the broguing pattern
the french binding is done so sloppily it doesn't cover the edge on the lining, so you can see the lining protruding from inside the shoe when wearing them

meanwhile my alden 990 feels like a house slipper, right out of the box, absolutely unmatched comfort for a dress(y) shoe
the materials are just straight up better, ignoring the memed leatherboard heel stack
the leather sole holds up better, the lining is nice and soft, doesn't wrinkle, the stitching is just cleaner and tighter
i would have gone with the alden longwing, which just objectively looks better, if i didn't already have a fuckton of color 8

>>17824473
interesting, they scan your feet and then 3d print a last or someting?

>>17824558
>>17823935
My pair doesn't have any of those problems and they as good as this price range can get, although I dislike this kind of random drop in quality. What I hate I that garbage shoe tree, even Chang's knockoff are better and the lack of options to add toe taps

TLB Mallorca is running a 15% off MTO event.

https://www.tlbmallorca.com/collections/made-to-order-15

>>17824635
As someone who recently got a pair of TLB derbies, I'd absolutely go for it they make incredible shoes. Easily on par or better than Carmina

>>17824499
I'm pretty sure Carmina heels are celastic

>>17824635
>>17824643
I have one pair of TLBs and they are way, way better than Carmina in build quality and QC and attention to detail and their lasts are better too.

But, they don't have a lot of options, especially for more casual looks like no metal eyelets, no rubber soles except dainite etc.
They should really offer Ridgeway, fits their dressy lasts well.

But for dress shoes like oxords and such they are unbeatable.

>>17824649
Yes they are an amazing dress shoe/boot brand. Bit of a shame, they even have a galway-like pattern, but i prefer them more casual.

>>17824558
>those toe prints
what the fuck?
toes go on the front not the sides

This is my imprint on Carmina Soller, which is a fairly big and elongated last. I wear these with normal thin socks.

It's a comfortable last for me, wish the heel was a little smaller.

I ordered boots in Forest EEE now and went 0.5 size up from this one because Forest is not elongated and also I want to wear wool socks with boots.

Upgraded my old flight boots. Wha'dya bros think?

>>17824678
Pretty... pretty ugly

>>17824678
did you put a condom on your boots

bros should i get monkey boots (pic rel) or basic dr martin type boots

Anyone else actually base their leather choices on which tannery are staffed by *squints* heritage Americans?
>Horween? Nope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9V6mvQfvyw
>Seidel? Don't think so buddy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lCsNYC3cUU
>Wickett & Craig? Absolutely
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xtxvIVEmaw
>S.B Foot Tanning Company? Yes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9u10nMb7OQ

>>17824731
no, I just want a good boot.

>>17824731
>Anyone else actually base their leather choices on which tannery are staffed by *squints* heritage Americans?
No, but I think I will now, I buy from businesses that hire "heritage Americans" though, like Frank's, watch their tour vids.
It's crazy looking at the Nick's tour videos from like 4+ years ago and then today, it's like they stopped hiring "heritage Americans", even if they didn't they obviously had a diversity quota.

>>17824731
maybe

>>17824646
I own two pairs and they're not
You can tell and feel if it's celastic. my Meermins are celastic and they're absolutely hell on the heels, I ever wear them

>>17824652
>>17824649
They're making lots of new styles. They're moving in that direction but they are a young brand so gotta give them time to figure out their styles

>>17824673
What do you think of Soller? I'm getting a Calway from the custom event and I'm unsure about what last to go for, Soller is supposedly a bit like 341.

When will the "buy boots that are too small for le perfect fit in the future" meme end?

>>17824762
when you stop buying pants that are too big just to roll them up

>>17824678
based. what overboots/galoshes are these?

>>17824709
>should I get soloturds

No.

>>17824767
>*makes fun of people that buy boots that are too small*
>thinks it is me in the picture of person wearing boots that are too small

>>17824781
that guy just has bad fashion is all
>look at this obviously ill fitting boots
>BUT LOOK AT THE CUFFS HURR

>>17824781
I assumed it was a pic of you having regretted falling for the meme
if it's not you then just the "you" in my post with "people"
>>17824784
both practices are retarded and I won't turn a blind eye to one.

>>17824761
It's decently wide and a bit long, but the heel is also kinda big.
It's rounded but at the front it sort of tapers down compared to other Carmina lasts like Forest and Oscar which seem to go full height all the way to the edge. Not sure how to explain it.

But when looking at it from the top, it feels a little pointy compared to Forest.
Basically I think Forest has more room for the big toe (i.e. on the inside of the shoe) so then it tapers from both sides and creates a more rounded look. Whereas Soller only tapers from the outside, where it's wide, so it looks more pointy.

>>17824689
I like them a lot, for beat-around shoes. Especially after a decade of use

>>17824692
Yes

>>17824770
Good eye brother. Some WorkBrutes I got from work, when they were being tossed out. I got no almost sole groves or grip left on my flight boots, so its definitely an upgrade

>>17824762
I think it comes from the break in meme getting crossed with the size down meme

Any recommendations on what boots to buy as an europoor?

>>17824822
G A L W A Y

>>17824806
>Not sure how to explain it.
I think i get what you mean, i don't like those lasts because of that. Soller it is i guess.

>boots starting to break in
I've never had sex but this must be what foreplay feels like

>>17824822
probably should give more info than just what continent you're on

>>17824848
Portugal
And I was thinking in getting timbs, I don't have much money, maybe 250€ but they need to be good quality

>>17824822
Skolyx sells some pretty cheap Yanko stuff.
Made in Spain, not very expensive, looks decent.

Never tried one though.

>>17824858
Isn't Carlos Santos portuguese?
Maybe they have better prices locally but it's a dressy brand

>>17824875
they have a bunch of casual models for boots.

why though?

>>17824875
They are, but I think they're a bit over my budget...they're over 400€

>>17824884
looks dumb but I like it haha

>>17824884
the testicle leather means you can't tell the grain is breaking

>>17824888
Skolyx sells Yanko stitchdown chukkas for like 180€ and goodyear Moctoes for like 270€

>>17824894
Hmmm, alright, btw, what does /fa/ and /BTG/ think of Timberlands? Overpriced? Bad? Not stylish?

>>17824896
I think buying glued trash shoes for under 100€ is perfectly fine since there is no alternative.
But spending 200+ on junk is inexcusable.

>>17824858
With a bit more you could get Redwings

>>17824762
How do you know if your boots are too small or just a tad tight?

>>17824858
Urban Shepherds, you won't regret it.

>>17824858
>Portugal
If you're not adverse to buy second hand, you can find Red Wing Iron Ranger on Vinted for around your budget or less. Lots of folks bought them, wore them a couple of times and are selling them because their sneaker feet can't handle them.

>>17824884
pnw mto and it consequences have been a disaster for the bovine race

on the way to my comfy lab job I walked past some tradies in my heritage™ work boots today while they were all wearing 80 dollar glued shitters
you just know I had to hit them with this look

>>17824933
It's insane how I never heard of them...popular brands have really been astroturfed

>>17824901
>>17824941
A lot of recommendations of Redwings.
Iron rangers look alright, need to check vinted & OLX

>>17824966
If you are willing to pay full price then I would recommend careofcarl. They have easy returns since they include a return label that you just stick to the box it came with and just send it back. So you can buy two pairs or whatever to make sure you get the correct sizing.

>>17824028
I think yor brown boots have an STD

>>17824884
mid brown and black never works in any context

>>17824884
why does it seem like no one ever uses the top hole? what is it for?

>>17824884
looks like and old black man waring sandals

is Neimar a female name? met a Veneca with that name

>>17824049
what is the boot of the yellow man?

>>17825057
some designer dior shit probably.

>>17825057
I don't know but it probably has 3 inch heels

>>17824772
ok where else should i look
to be honest i think there is a mental issue you have that causes you to post this in every thread but i still want to hear your advice

>>17825072
the real mental illness is asking whether a trash boot should be purchased every fucking thread

>>17825073
i was mostly asking about the style of boot (monkey vs 1460-type) and the picture i used was to show an example
are you the one who personally had those issues with the misaligned tongue?
also what brand would you actually recommend

>>17825057
chelsea with a 5 inch heel.

>>17825077
if you want monkey boots go trickers
if you want that 1460 style, there are no high quality variants because what you're attracted to is the dogshit plastic shine lesbian boot

>>17825081
>trickers
i appreciate the advice but my brother these are $800

imagine buying a red wing and then paying someone $900 just to make them less of a clown shoe
complete relasting by unsung
how sick in the head do you have to be to pay around $1300 total for this

>>17825072
If you've lurked enough to see I post how shit solovair is every time someone asks about it, you should also know my advice is to get French rangers. You could also get a pair of fracaps. Or look at what scarosso or velasca have. If they're too expensive for you or you don't want French rangers just wear converse or tuk creepers.

>>17825120
>>17825072
Since you're asking for soloturds, I'm also assuming you're a yuropoor, but in case you're American, just get a pair of roapers.

>>17825109
>because what you're attracted to is the dogshit plastic shine lesbian boot

>>17825114
I didn't understand this kinda things until I graduated and got my first "real" job
I make so much now that I don't even think twice about buying shoes. I'm about to drop 1k on some JM Weston loafers I've always wanted because why not?
Let people do what they want. It took me years of coping with boots I didn't actually want because I couldn't afford or justify the ones I did want. Some people just want a specific thing and are willing to pay for it

>>17823689
ugly chromexcel tanning

>>17825114

so I posted here before but I have to post again because your advice didn't work. I bought these mocs from whites a couple months ago, I wore the first pair I got for a full shift and ended up with blood soaked socks from the skin being ripped off my heel. I returned that pair and got a half size up, I had the same issue, I wore them around the house for a week and still I can't walk more than a mile wearing them it becoming painful and ending up with blisters on my heel. What the hell gives? I broke them in like you guys told me, is there anything I can do to fix this issue? I really want to wear these boots, I also don't think I can return them anymore. This sucks, never had this problem with my thorogoods, I know it's a different type of leather but still, come on I paid good money for these boots and all they do is hurt me.

>>17825134
My guess is what that other anon means is that af that price point you can get something made to order and highly customizable and of higher quality than iron rangers

>>17825114
>relast
>they look the same
...

>>17825138
:( sorry to hear that, you either break the boot or the boot buck breaks you...and unfortunately it seems the latter has happened to you, can't offer you any more advice than the ones I've posted, except to put a little conditioner on the leather to try to soften them up more

>>17825143
come on man they're like 5% less bulbous in the toe

>>17825138
I really, really doubt anyone told you to wear whites put of the box for a full shift. Also you didn't break them in. For whites it could take weeks or even months.

>>17825149
no, wearing them out of the box was my mistake, the advice I got here was to break them in more. Which i've been doing, but it's been 2 or 3 weeks already and it still hurts to wear them so I don't know.

>>17825162
all that leather, especially compared to thorogoods will need time. keep rotating them in and out, condition them a little, keep wearing them

>>17825162
>>17825164
just look at that thoroughgood cross section
>synth
>synth
>cork
>synth
tough it out, and you'll never look back once you break them in

>>17825162
How long ago did you fuck up your feet?
How many hours have you worn the new boots?

>>17825164
is there any reason it would be the heel specifically though? It's just that I doubt breaking them in more will solve this problem because it's always just the heel that hurts and gets blistered. I'm gonna keep trying to wear them regardless cause I can't return them anymore so might as well try a little more to make them work before I pawn them on ebay or something.

>>17825171
the leather heel counter on the perry is thicker than anything else combined on the thoroughgood

maybe its also a lacing issue?

>>17825171
Before breaking in boots thete might be a bit of heel slippage. And considering the ammount of leather and its thickness, no wonder it's peeling your heel like grating cheese.
Assuming correct size, heel slippage should reduce and even dissapear as you break in the boots.

>>17825170
I waited for my feet to heal before I started breaking the second pair in, that was maybe like two months ago or something. I don't know how many hours exactly but I've been wearing them around the house and taking short walks in them, I can only walk for like a half mile before it starts to become too painful and I can feel the blisters forming.

>>17825057
What is
the boot
of the
spastic?

>>17825174
The size I have them in now is the same size I wear everything else in, boots, sneakers, everything. The original size I returned was a half size down from that, I forget why I chose that, I think they recommend doing that on their website right? So they might possibly be a half size large if I was incorrect in returning that first pair, is that a huge deal? Will it make these boots impossible to break in if their a half size large?

>>17825192
are there significant gaps at the throat of the boot when you lace them up firmly?

>>17825175
Hey idiot, condition the boots to soften them. Got any Obenaufs LP? If so? Treat the shoe, inside and out.

>>17825193
no I don't think so

>>17825175
>>17825198
I wouldn't use obenaufs on them, the Perry has some nice leather that would darken and become flat, use Venetian shoe cream.

what's the poorfag option for this look that isn't thursday?

>>17825114
full respect to the cobbler, clean job. But they still look the same lol.

>>17825291
how poor? i like parkhurst, so i would probably go for this combo

https://www.parkhurstbrand.com/collections/mens-boots/products/the-richmond-black-waxy
plus
https://www.parkhurstbrand.com/products/edge-dye

>>17825291
Parkhurst but they're not that cheap
Also Grant Stone

>>17824884
to stomp red neck throats.

>>17823819
>Lofgren
>Oak bark
False. Lofgren uses industry standard chestnut bark tanned leather.

>>17824750
cobbler here. It is celastic. Carmina swtitched from leatherboard celastic couple of years ago.

>>17825291
Grantstone on sale.

>>17825381
Where do they say that?

>>17825387
>cobbler here
No one believes you

>>17825392
Where does Lofgren say they are oak?
If you look at Miyagi Kogyo (the manufacturer) factory. You can see the pasty white veg tan leather that is evident of chestnut tanned.

>>17825423

Getting a cranleigh and a "thorpe" from Bonafe instead of trying G&G.

>>17825533
I have saved a photo of a Bonafe split toe because I once considered the design.

I think EG is really the master of the apron, and G&G are all ex-EG people so they know it well too.

>>17825617
>>17825533
I also have a photo of a Carmina split toe.
I would do a different design with a less visible split. Reverse stitch or how it's called.

I ordered boots from Carmina last week and now TLB has a -15% MTO event and I really wanted a pair of everyday office derbies from TLB (like a Dover style) but I don't think it's normal to be buying 600€ shoes twice in the same month

>>17825618
lol that's almost the same make-up i have.
>>17825617
>>17825618
I already have a split toe by bonafe and yea, i am asking if they can do the reverse stitch on that pattern, i want it to be like the thorpe.

>>17825626
although it should be noted EB aren't doing the real pie crust stitch G&G and EG do (does anyone else even do it?) But the end result of their reverse stitch is similar.

>>17825192
Make sure your heel is firmly against the boot when you put them on and then check if the widest part of your feet sits on the widest part of the boot. If it does, you're fine, if you're a few milimeters short, you can put a thin leather insert to correct that. Also get yourself thick woolen socks to wear with your boots. A common rookie mistake is wearing the same thin cotton socks most people wear all the time with sneakers. The socks will make a big difference, beleive me.

>>17825292
I don't see any difference on the last, but the sole and the stitching look a couple orders of magnitude better than any Iron Ranger. Not sure if the work is worth 1k, but the cobbler did a great job indeed.

Damn that's not expensive at all with the TLB MTO discount.
Lasted trees included.

>>17825622
>I don't think it's normal to be buying 600€ shoes twice in the same month
At which point is this just mindless consumerism? I wanted a nice pair of boots with a price tag within my means. After frequenting this general I ended up with three pairs and considering another way over what I'm confortable spending on a single piece of clothing.

>>17825648
i treat it as a hobby.

>>17825647
I don't know if I should go with this color which is "Vegano Brown"

>>17825650
cavour still has one dover for 40% off in size 10

>>17825650
Or instead this lighter color (on a different shoe) which is "Vegano Light Brown"

I want to wear my boots with no socks. Is there a spray or something I could get so the boots don't smell like death?

>>17825651
I'm 10.5 UK (wide) and I've heard people take 0.5 size up on Edward Green and G&G for some reason.

I don't own any EG or G&G so I can't confirm but I've seen both Skolyx and Meccariello say this in their size guides. Meccariello actually follows their sizing, so 0.5 size up from brands like Carmina and TLB.

>>17825651
also still one unlined dover in size 10 too. I got this one and its 10/10.
>>17825654
1. don't
2. put trees in the boots and give them rest.
>>17825655
Yea you'd be UK11 in most EG lasts, only 72 can be taken TTS imo.

>>17825649
A very expensive hobby. But again, I know people in my income bracket with figurine collection whose total value put what I spent on boots to shame.

>>17825661
It's up there but far from the worst. With ~30k you can get 20 pairs of EG for example, some full price some on sale. What's that gonna get you if you're into Watches? 1 Rolex maybe 2 cheaper models?

>>17825646
nice harlech

>>17825291
What percentage of people can even detect the difference between a £50 shoe/boot and £500 shoe/boot appearancewise?
I wrote the above then realised that the
>edge dye
isn't the shoe pictured. The shoe pictured is not £30. That's just for the dye.

>>17825718
meant for
>>17825293
double retardation

>>17824990
muh fashion probably

>>17825718
>What percentage of people can even detect the difference between a £50 shoe/boot and £500 shoe/boot appearancewise?
Not many, but if you're wearing stuff for other people, you're doing it wrong. Unless it's to impress your peers, people in the know, then you could make a case for it. But trying to impress the general populace with clothes and shoes inevitabily leads to npc core.

>>17825718
Well I own plenty of shoes that cost more than 500 and I can spot cheap shoes in an instant
Like my boss at work, he has some important meeting and wears a cheap tan brogue oxford - probably actually expensive and made by some fashion brand - but it just looks cheap and poorly made to me. Like a $30 shoe.

>>17825840
I am able to tell instantly, the last, leather quality and color, collapsing because they lack a shank etc.
Its so rare i see nice shoes in the office or just when going out for a walk, always the same cheap mall shit that's way overpriced, when it isn't sneakers.

>>17825622
Who cares as long as you'll wear them. It's only bad if you're buying them just to buy them and they rot in your closet
If you wear them then do it

Who are some American located cobblers that do mail in service? I have some shoes I want widened and I'm debating sending them to Bedos Leatherworks but Steve is expensive. He's the best so the price is justified but who are some others?
Trenton and Heath are okay but they cut corners

>>17826227
>I have some shoes I want widened
F

>>17826229
Whats the issue? It's just one shoe, my right foot is about .5 cm wider than my left but they're loafers so the fit is everything

I know /btg/ hates zips. But what do you think of the Our Legacy Camion boot?

I just copped in black. I’ve heard good things in terms of fit and quality. And I didn’t just want a pair of Chelseas.

These straddle the line between cowboy and something more minimal, formal, but also versatile.

>>17826342
jesus what the fuck dude they look like mallcop shoes

>>17826342
>>17826376
Garbage Martin Margiela ripoffs. Get a refund.

>>17826571
The Margiela’s are twice as much, have worse zippers and a non-vibram sole (so not as versatile in the winter/wet weather).

Quality wise they’re probably on-par as I’ve tried both on when I was in Italy last month.

Margiela’s more a formal boot whereas OL are an all-rounder with a squarer toe.

boot newfag here
why do you need to brush your boots with specifically a horsehair brush?

>>17826626
synthetic brushes (nylon usually) are far too stiff and will scratch, horsehair is a good relatively cheap alternative, and you can get nicer brushes like goat hair to get a nice soft shine

>>17826626
Soft enough that it won't scratch or scuff, firm enough make enough friction and heat to buff out scratches and create a shine
I've also heard of people using pig hair brushes but I have no experience with them

>>17826342
They're nice, seem like they'll last a few years and are neutral enough even though they still make a statement. A little Throwing Fits core but that probably means you're dressing better than 80% of guys your age

>>17824822
Blundstone

>>17823689
damn, bison looks like THAT?

>>17826777
>that grain break
yikes

>>17826777
whats with that stupid stitching on the vamp?

>>17826908
its called toe bug stitching, purely aesthetic

>>17826908
It's a toe bug, it's a classic design on cowboy boots and packers.

what is the general /fa/ opinion on Beckett Simonon for a first black leather boot in the ~200-250 price range i like the gallagher and their boots go on sale for like 189 every few months

>>17826978
I think you should watch the new stridewise video on them, because they are the same price they have been for years, and basically what has happened is that the leather quality has gone down.
I have an old pair of their dress shoes.

I want some boots that scream the opposite of gentlemen, something along the lines of hiking boots but not quite hiking boots, boots that I can just wear whenever but also look quite good. Preferably brown and not timbs. Any ideas?

>>17826983
monkey boots

>>17826983
Fair warning they're bespoke, cost $1800 and take 2 years.

>>17826983
could go with any of the pnw brands, maybe truman boots too, but their leathers are rotational now.

>>17826979
i actually watched that video last night or 2 nights ago I think coincidentally, and yea it seems they switched from their Argentinian calfskin leather to an italian calfskin one and it's a little worse or so so i guess my question now is, is there any similar silhouetted boot to >>17826978 or their dowlers for under 300, the gallagher silhouette just really has a hold on me for some reason maybe cause i have thinnish legs so i was a sort of similarly proportioned boot

>>17826979
>he says its all leather construction
>synthetic midsole is burning a hole in my eyes
how has he been doing this so long and still gets bsic shit wrong?

>>17827012
It's absolutely hilarious to me that after like 5 years of this shit (been following him since the very early days) he still simply repeats reddit opinions and talking points. His "research" and "opinions" are just whatever reddit comment he read on the pair he's reviewing
Not to mention he's a shill like Rose Anvil and can only say what his masters tell him. He's probably a full-time "ambassador" employee of Thursday on their payroll

>>17827019
i did laugh when he brought up thursday
i do wonder if the rereview was just an excuse to shill thursday again

>>17826983
thursday boots

>>17824050
>>17824049
Are timbs /fa/ for white men to use as a nice boot for casual/semi-casual events? Been lurking here but I need to know soon.

>>17827012
hes an absolute retard shill

was considering getting soloair, but i did my research and now i want french rangers for winter everyday use. is the brand important in these military boots? i've only managed to find stuff like this: https://www.camoufletoi.fr/rangers-chaussures/1048-rangers-chaussures-armee-francaise-goodyear.html#/23-couleur-noir/71-taille-43
also, are these any good? i like the aesthetics

>>17827394
If you want the real good ones get Argueyrolles or Marbot.

>>17826986
No idea how you knew I was black but ok
>>17827043
Everyone says this is shit?

hows my rotation looking?
>inb4 turdsdays
got em as a gift and won the qc lottery, theyve held up really well for 5 years

>>17827585
what loafers?

>>17824022
What did they solve?

>>17827587
Allen Edmonds potomacs. Theyre discontinued but something nearly identical is currently for sale

>>17827585
pretty basic/10

kek his crusade against the indys continues

>>17827602
They look very similar to some Cheaney loafers I own

>>17827609
He probably approached Alden about them sponsoring him for a video and they told him to fuck off because Alden doesn't do any marketing or advertising and he got butthurt

>>17827609
a guy in indys fucked his mom
theres no other explanation

>>17827609
>>17827621
>>17827622
did you guys even watch the video? he rightfully shit on it as just a prop boot.

>>17827609
I wonder why they never review high end European boots. Yeah I know that brand was technically English but it is a prop company, I mean high end European boot companies like Enzo Bonafe, C&J, Tricker's, EG, Heschung etc. Maybe European companies never sponsor YouTubers or something.

Anyway if he is gonna compare Alden Indy equivalents all month he should really order the C&J Indiana. I'd like to see how it compares.

>>17827631
Posting good reviews without controversy isn't good for engagement and views. No one wants to watch a video about someone calling a good brand good.

>>17827630
not talking about this video specifically but for months over and over he must makes Alden videos, on both his channels
he's got terminal Alden Derangement Syndrome. it's all he can think about

>>17827630
he's got bit of alden derangement symptom going

>>17827635
Well his viewers are mostly American so I think he could easily shit on highend European boots if he wanted to. Never seen euro boots using le industry standard of 3mm thick Horween leather uppers or whatever so he could shit on them for being flimsy thin and not durable for that reason.

>>17827631
he probably never receives sponsorships from them

>>17827650
>>17827652
i'll take your word for it, i only watch him when someone posts him here.

Rapid blake stitch is the superior construction. Change my mind

>>17827609
he comes from this absolutely stupid position that it's just a matter of time before someone just comes along, copies all the good things about alden and rakes in all the money, because "it's just the wide last"
yet a ton of brands have copied the Indy and absolutely NONE of them come even close, because it's not just service boot with moc stitch
realistically alden is the last classic american shoemaker, because all the other ones have gone bankrupt or "got with the time" and moved manufacturing to china
of course noone "just took their place"
him just whining about them constantly is supposed to be some consumer call to action to demand improvement, but what is that going to accomplish when half of his complaints towards them is that it isn't a PNW boot, because "that's what Indy realistically would have chosen" and other made up nonsense about the padding of the sock liner hurting his foot
>dude muh gusseted tongue
also he's absolutely demented when he says alden should cost $300

>>17827671
Nah you're right. Who uses that though? I rarely see it.

>>17827672
>yet a ton of brands have copied the Indy and absolutely NONE of them come even close
this was the reason I ended up just shelling out for the Indy
i wanted that exact shape, that exact style, that exact aesthetic, and no one but Alden does it. I chose to pay more for perhaps less quality but have it be exactly what I wanted
and that's what this Rose Asshole faggot doesn't understand. He doesn't get consumer behavior. The consumer will get what they want because that's what they want. Above 350+ dollars, you stop caring about muh value and just pay for what you want.
Vibergs are not worth 1000 bucks but if you want the 2030 last then you will pay for it. and people do, all the time because of it. Aldens are not worth 650 bucks but people want the Indy boot and will always be willing to pay for it
Weston doesn't seem to understand that and assumes all people just want to get the cheapest thing possible that checks all their boxes. He's wrong

>>17827676
rancourt

>>17827631
too expensive

>>17827684
this
yuro brands are too expensive to just cut in half for a clickbait video
he really only cuts up things that were given to him by a sponsor, really cheap shit, or something that was donated. he doesn't just cut up expensive boots just to do it

>>17827631
C&J Galway II is their u-tip.
Bedos relasted a C&J boot recently if you're interested in seeing it torn apart.

>>17827689
Okay it wasn't recently actually
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZK6B6FAPZ4
Also a really cool Viberg video from 8 days ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRT-PfP8i98

>>17827681
>Weston doesn't seem to understand that and assumes all people just want to get the cheapest thing possible that checks all their boxes. He's wrong
there is a subsection of entry level retards and people who don't even own any boots that think this is all that's important, because they have absolutely no perspective, besides what they watch in his videos
that makes them the prime demographic to be advertised to
the comment box of his videos are filled with people who clap this on because they get to feel like their thursdays are better than a boot 3x the price, because it has a leather heel stack

the alden bashing gets quite a lot of pushback from people who aren't completely clueless and he's not too happy about it, that's why he doubles and triples down on it so hard

>>17827706
so its just poorfag cope so therefore well received ?

>>17827708
pretty much

>>17827708
always has been
Rose Anvil, Stridewise, all these others, they're all the same. They are essentially freelance marketers working for brands getting paid to positively review their products because they have reach, they have viewers and it's probably a lot cheaper to send them a pair of boots and pay them a couple thousand than it is to pay an internal marketing department to come up with a marketing campaig, pay an advertising agency to create ads for you and pay places to show your ads. it's easier to just send Stridewise a boot and a check and tell him to say your boot is good even if it isn't
and this works for them because 90% of these people's audience is poor people just getting into "fashion" who want something cheap that they think is good. That's Thursday's entire target demographic: poor people who want to feel like they're dressing nice.

Alden is different in that they have basically never spent a cent on proper marketing or advertising and simply rely on word or mouth and loyal customers referring friends. they have been making the same shoes the same way for years and people still pay for them because they are NOT pandering to poor entry level people. they make shoes for people that want good shoes and are willing to pay for it. Crockett and Jones is the same way but they actually do a bit more marketing but the clientele is the same
these brands don't pay "bootfluencers" to shill their products to poor people because they don't want them to. Marketing 101 states you target, segment and differentiate. These brands have a completely different target and segment in the market and Weston is mad over it because that's not HIS audience and he cant profit from it as a result

leatherboard cope essay

>>17827721
post your aldens, whites and carminas

>>17827716
as someone who went with AE first and then alden i wasn't overly impressed
>leather really around the same
>underfoot comfort around the same
alden does have better broguing

I think I'm going to order these TLB split toes in that exact leather color while they have the -15% event

>>17827742
I meant these ones >>17825650

So what's the argument for Alden's shit QC?

>>17827742
Do it. I've been wearing my new TLBs for about a week now and they're my new favorite shoes. Can't say enough about them

>carmina qc

>>17827762
is that black polish that rubbed off on the brass?

>>17827762
Can't say I know that feels with my pair of the same shoes

>>17827745
All the skilled labor is dying off and they can’t replace it fast enough. Last I heard there were only 2 old ladies who can do handstitch mocs and nsts.

>>17823689
what's with these off-color backstays on black boots recently? some kind of new gay flagging thing?
>tan backstay means you're a bottom
>brown backstay means you're into fisting
>burgundy backstay means you want someone to pozz your neghole

>>17827815
sounds about right

>>17827815
Yea its a signal that you're a bottom

>>17827745
Literally no one wants to be a shoemaker in a developed country because the pay is shit. Why be on your feet all day sewing shoes for 20 bucks an hour in an extremely expensive state like Massachusetts when you could do literally anything else?
Only boomers still put up with that and they're retiring and dying so they are literally running out of people to make shoes. Young people will do it if you pay more hence more overhead which gets passed on to the consumer

>>17827883
it's almost like everyone should have been getting paid more as things got more expensive but nobody did so now you cant pay people more because people cant pay what things are worth and everything is broken and were all fucked

>>17827893
Sure love being alive to witness the collapse of society

billions must die

>>17827929
mmhh imagine all that leather

>>17824933
Hell yeah
Urban Shepherd'ss are great value and good for casual nature walks
Shame how globohomo and covid made everything more expensive than it has to be

>>17827948
>>17827948
>>17827948

NEW

>>17827948
>>17827948
>>17827948

NEW

>>17827585
What's top middle

>>17828066
AE patton

>>17823957
What are these?