/fa/ - Fashion

Checked out White's today, that anon is right, they are based.

You guys mostly discuss 6" or slightly shorter boots here. What are your thoughts on 8" boots? Are they cringe? Uncomfortable for daily use?

Not sure if my first pair of boots should be a ~6" like a regular service boot style or perhaps taller boots like the 8" moc toe or Crockett&Jones Snowdon(whatever height that boot is).

>>17817204
Nope

I can't find cowboy or roper boots in yurop. The good American brands don't ship here. I think dan post do, but dan post is allegedly shit.

>>17817223
Chisos boots ships internationally, but I swear every euro really wants a cowboy boot store in their country.

>boot general

morel ike cringe general

>>17817235
Chisos look great too, but unfortunately they're 550 and that's before shipping, VAT, and customs. It's fucked. Thursday have pic related but you guys always say Thursdays are for gay retards from reddit and shit quality.

>>17817204
My Islay is 7", same as the snowdon. I don't really notice it.

On one hand I'm not getting fucked that bad, but on the other these boots aren't that nice.

Jesus...

I was thinking of lacing my solovairs like this, thoughts?

>>17817375
>he owns soloshitters

>>17817380
post your boots nigger

>>17817383
why do people post this when the average entry level btg boot costs almost double 1 pair of docs?
what are you trying to prove?

>>17817390
pussy i bet u wear some ugly gay ass high heal shit

Hoka Tor boots

what do you cunts think of jim greens?

>>17817383
Here are my two pairs of soloshitters that I returned because they were garbage. Other than that I have a pair of French rangers.

I didn't know Justin made boots like these. If I was American I'd probably buy these after he lowers the price.

>>17817455
not my problem, works on my machine :)

>>17817401
It's their best hiking boots for sure. Just understand that hoka shoes are like a consumable they last as long as their sole holds out.

>>17817488
proof?

thoughts on the blunies 1901? I'm looking for a chelsea boot I can dress up and also down, casually and in a moral formal manner

>>17817510
Ugly and gay as any chelsea boot.

>>17817516
looks better than gay ass laces

>>17817454
>posts nothing but tiny cosmetic issues

Please speak when you have a real problem.

>>17817520
>gay ass laces
fellas is it gay to secure your boots?

>>17817520
retard

only velcro shoes for me
don't want any fellas think i'm GAY

whats happening here and how to fix it?

>>17817551
Why is there no imprint of your foot on the sole

Anyway I have no idea. Is it mold? Might be mold.

>>17817558
i have an insole in there usually

>>17817551
that is grant stone, am i right?

>>17817180
Are these worth? https://www.pavers.co.uk/products/arizona-goodyear-welted-oxford-shoes-loa36001-322-816?variant=40687818014805

>>17817551
ponder the vapors
>>17817628
also are they good for business casual

>>17817244
you'll fit right in

>>17817375
what model are these

>>17817551
mold, you nasty lad. get cedar shoe trees, and a boot dryer for winter/mud season. moisture lets the mold grow on the leather, and now it's fruiting

>>17817580
Do you remove the insole from time to time so it gets some fresh air?

>>17817670
dior navigator

>>17817454
They're good boots.

>>17817375
cringe especially if you're trying to make them look more expensive than they are

>>17817823
thank you for validating my purchase anon, I like them too

>>17817204
I like mine, very comfy

>>17817204
>You guys mostly discuss 6" or slightly shorter boots here
*blocks your path*

why does the brass look so good half the time and like a joke the other half?

>>17817180
frank's positioning itself as the absolutely faggiest out of the rest of the PNW crowd
i guess you have to stand out somehow

>>17817180
Those look great

>be American
>wake up
>shower and eat eggs and bacon with a PB&J and a glass of milk
>go outside and hop in your truck
>drive downtown
>walk into boot store
>try a few pairs the hot girl that works there hands you
>pick one and buy it for cheap
>drive home with your new great boots

>be yuropean
>can't do any of that

>>17817968
Frank's is the new Wesco's for leatherfaggots

>>17817375
Bow tie lacing is for when your laces are too short.
You tying it around the ankle defeats the whole purpose of it.
You just look like an idiot for doing this.

>>17817454
Black hands made them.

>>17817972
they really are becoming the go to for gay hairy biker bear types

another franks doing a custom recraft of whites

>>17817981

>>17817968
You realize these are custom boots right?
The choices weren't made by Frank.
Stop whining about a non problem, maybe you should appreciate that Frank's and White's are the only ones who even do custom boots these days and it only takes a few months to receive them and not a year.

>>17817973
He's shilling soloturds. He already looks like an idiot.

>>17817968
What did you fucking expect?

>>17817975
at least they are working for massa

>>17817986
yet they signed off on it and had to have stocked the fruity magenta colored leather beforehand for the cusomer to request in the first place
white's isn't that much of a whorehouse like franks or nicks that they'll make any abomination the customer requests
they limit their custom options to what sensible, they won't allow any last on any model with every leather they have

>>17818018
>and had to have stocked the fruity magenta colored leather beforehand for the cusomer to request in the first place
No they likely ordered it for him, there was a guy on youtube who wanted green boots and they got a golf green dublin leather and it's a leather they still offered until it runs out.
Sure these are weird colors but they're just as zesty as the Ostrich, Caiman and Lizard leather boots that White's offers.

>>17817981
perfect

cop?

>>17818103
>>Excessive/unnecessary seams

my toes hurt bros

>>17817244
I love Serena so much bros

>>17817815
>dior navigator
thanks anon

Got my Blacksmiths from the cobbler a week or so ago after getting a wedge sole put on them. They’re so much more comfortable than the original mini wedge and I think after the initial whiteness wears off they won’t look much different on foot than the original soles did. Will post pics tomorrow when the sun is up.

>>17818105
Why did you buy boots that are too small?

>>17817180
Is there any way to remove or minimize the kind of fine wrinkling happening on those boots? My loafers have it now and I do not like it.

>>17818525
from what I read this thing does remove them temporarily, but you can't prevent/ reverse it permanently.
https://www.grantstoneshoes.com/collections/shoe-care/products/deer-polishing-bone

cop?

>>17818710
actual clown shoes. yeah, there's some guy out there who can pull it off. but if you're asking for advice on 4chan, you're not him.

>>17817968
They are all located in Washington, go figure.

>>17818710
>>17818713
These would only work if you were an Anglo-Saxon on the Nantucket Island Rowing Team

>>17818494
theyre actually not too small, its just that my feet get a LOT wider at the toes. they're width D and I have space on both sides (except at the toes) and I probably have like half an inch of space at the front because I didn't size down

Are there any cheap black surplus boots worth buying? (for a burger)
I haven't worn boots in a few years and I just want to see if I'll actually wear them to see if its worth getting something nice.

>>17817958
Are these sort of soles usable in the snow/ice?

c-cop?

anyone have any Parkhurst sale coupons ?

>>17817981
jack skellington ass mf

I'm going to order a (copy) of this boot from Carmina, in chestnut Karagrain

Do you think the sole edge should be dark brown (like pic related) or all black to match the rubber sole?

>>17819059
Also: eyelets color?
Dark nickel eyelets + copper hooks?
Or just dark nickel everywhere?

>>17819059
Black will look bad, this one is more chestnut than dark brown at Carmina. Also, make sure to go at least double sole, preferably triple sole to get the same thickness.

In May 2022 I ordered from Carmina and my order number was 37K
In April 2023 I ordered from Carmina and my order number was 44K

7K pairs a year
What are their margins like? They're Spanish so probably overstaffed due to siesta and heavily in debt due to factory equipment, so margins should be pretty thin. 100 bucks a pop gets you to 700,000€ a year - decent by Spanish standards.
Maybe not bad for Mrs. Carmina and her dad.

>>17819155
Carmina makes way more on the RTW business.

>>17819174
I'd think the MTO business is where the fat profits are.
No inventory (made to order)
+20% MTO fees
Degenerates ordering shell and russian grain and lizard shoes that cost well into the 4-digits

>>17819059
brown

>>17819059
people won't see your boots from this angle very often, so you'll mostly see just the sole edge

These can now be yours for a meager $500
https://shop.whitesboots.com/closeout/semi-dress-9ee/

>>17819463
>double midsole
>ostrich
>silver hardware with natty uppers

Are Whites worth it? I’m looking to get a pair of 350 cruisers with the vibram mini lug sole

>>17819467
Yes

>>17819467
yes. the arch support takes a while to get used to but they will be the most comfortable boots you'll get your hands on once broken in

>>17819467
nah not really, they are comfortable but most my C&J, EG, NV, EB and Alden are just as comfortable or better, but with the added benefit of looking much better with proper finishing and actual QC (Alden aside). Maybe if you have flat arches the extra arch support is helpful?

>>17819471
I actually really like the appearance of the 350 cruiser. I’m mainly wanting to get them as a well rounded pair of boots that aren’t super flashy, but still look pretty cool. Mainly just wanting a pair of beaters. I already have a pair of shenki horsehide Lofgrens that are great, but it’s not something I’d want to wear while camping or walking around in the woods

>>17819486
go for it then, half down from brannock works best for 55 last imo.

>>17819463
>https://shop.whitesboots.com/closeout/semi-dress-9ee/
Size 9... Why are your feet so small? Are you a woman?

>>17819514
What makes you think they are mine?

>>17819514
thats the closeout section anon

>>17817981
Holy shit, I'd fucking rock these.

>>17817968
>>17817981
>>17818710
>>17819463
a lot of clowns here today

what boots hsould i get

>>17819618
white's semi dress

>>17819463
>weren't these in bakers final few for the longest while?

Anyone have experience with JK Boots among the PNW brands?
Youtubers shill for it, but Leddit constantly shits on them.

>>17819618
Frank's front range

>>17819671
Their customer support seems to be hot garbage.
Franks is the best option these days.

>>17819618
Dunlop Thermo+

>>17819639
initially thought this wasn't that damning for thursday, becasue from the bent up welt it's clear that the retard was kicking everything he could to force a "patina"
but 3 months is a bit too fast and then i saw that the welt stitch doesn't actually even go through the outsole and it's just held on only by glue, so it was bound to happen anyway

holy fuck they sell these as GYW, but what the fuck is the point if just the midsole is stitched to the welt
also these "loggers" cost $285

>>17819689
pretty sure their logger line is their "premium" line too

>>17819679
Is Rainier their only boot that's NOT 8-inch tall and with tranny heels?

>>17819707
The height is customizable and the have HNW last on the ground pounder.
They also make custom boots, you can call them and get whatever you want built.

>>17817180
https://www.pavers.co.uk/products/ealing-leather-ankle-boots-ealing-321-007?variant=40667301544021
OR
https://www.pavers.co.uk/products/exmouth-leather-ankle-boots-exmouth-323-075?variant=40668629729365
This is for business casual, but rural

>>17819766
too dressy mate

>>17819766
>Product Description
>Ready to keep you warm, dry and stylish come cooler days, the Ealing leather boots are a versatile choice whatever your agenda. Crafted from beautiful grained leather, the quality of materials and craftsmanship alludes to a sophisticated and premium look.

>zippers
>synth midsole
>mall trash

>>17819770
>grained leather
ah missed that part
Idk I need something I can get in Gloucestershire as I need these soonish
>>17819768
What would you recommend? I need something I can wear with trousers and a shirt - also outside

>wears his $1.5k boots with costco jeans
>has $100k footwear collection
wtf is this boomer's endgame

>>17819689
>but what the fuck is the point if just the midsole is stitched to the welt
its a little easier to repair and in a lot of cases it works fine but the thursday sole is very flexible and soft in addition to it being marketed as a rugged makeup. its a recipe for disaster

>>17819782
clearly he's into footwear and not jeans
I don't see the issue

>>17819777
nvm found some shops in range with much better selection

>>17819782
is that just a decorative stitch?

>>17819800
Yes, Galway is a faux toe cap, looks much better.

>>17819467
Alright bros, went to go try on some Whites this afternoon. Although I really like the 350 cruiser, they had a pair of 350 cutters in their roughout leather that I ended up being more interested in. Get paid on Friday and the shop set them aside for me until then. I totally understand the hype about Whites, they are fucking tanks

>>17819890
>waiting to get paid to buy them
anon....

>>17819890
make sure you wear good thick wool socks, wear them for a couple hours the first day, four hours the next day etc. don't wear them for a full day of work right out the box, like a good woman it will need breaking in first

>>17819904
Yeah, I could tell that its going to be a gnarly break in. I really dig the arch support though

arch support seems like a tremendous meme to me.

EVA foam rubber midsole
yes or no

>>17819952
>9
no

>>17819925
Not a meme, it’s just a certain type of comfort that only a few brands offer

ok niggers
8 inch boots, bootcut jeans or tuck jeans in?

>>17820220
I don't think tucking jeans is a thing unless you're wearing gay skinnies.

>>17820040
I have fat manly feet like God intended and not dainty little girl feet

>>17818424
Got a pic. The wedge is growing in me. It doesn’t look as ‘clean’ as the old sole and looks way more casual but the comfort is worth it and I think it’ll look better as it darkens.

>>17820270
what the fuck? you got scammed bro
there is supposed to be a rubber midsole that is glued and then stitched on to the welt, the wedge is then glued on to the rubber midsole
they make it that way because the bond between rubber and leather is really weak like what you have on your boot, but rubber to rubber is really strong
your shit will unglue so fast
they just removed the old sole and left the old welt stitches as decoration
you can literally just pull them out yourself, because they are not held on by anything

>>17820270
anon is correct, its missing the rubber slipsole that the wedge (and any other cemented rubber soles, like vibram gumlite) is cemented to. Here is one where you can clearly see it.

For me, its the Bates Paratroopers.

>zipper
show us the rest of your gimp suit you poof

for me it's the baits pooper-scoopers

>>17820305
>>17820329
Damn that sucks, I didn’t know much about resolves so I just went to a well-respected local cobbler

>>17820514
red wing resoles their own boots at a fair enough price through thier contracted cobblers, you can go to a local retailer or just send them in
if not, you can just shoot them an email, which cobbler they recommend in your area
i know sending in boots sucks, but unfortunately it's almost a necessity outside major metro areas, because most cobblers have no clue what goodyear welt is and they just glue shit on

I sent a message to Carmina asking if they can do Victoria (Ridgeway) sole on Forest EEE last - crickets.

In the meantime I'm actually thinking of doing the "Country" sole which made from big coconut milkers or something.
Everyone says it's very soft and comfy but I wonder if soft also means less durable.

Which boots do you frens use to the office? Specially in rainy days

>>17820560
Veldt Galway

>>17820560
Don't make fun of me but I don't wear boots to the office when it rains.

Brown CXL Vibergs = too casual
Color 8 shell Bonafes = I don't want rain on them
Suede Alden Indy = I don't want rain on them
Suede Carminas = I don't want rain on them

Pathetic, I know. I'm ordering some grain Carminas soon that will hopefully alleviate the problem.

>>17820582
What office do you work at where Bergs are too casual

Need a rec for 7 inch engineers that are actually available in size 13 and less then $1,000. Preferably a leather that can patina. If they exist.

>>17820631
>7 inch engineers
that height is rare, standard is usually 9-11 inches. viberg short shifts might be up your alley

>>17820631
https://theshopvancouver.com/collections/footwear

this shop offers a couple short engineers too but they're MTO

>>17820645
im gonna puke

>>17820643
Chippewa seems to have made a pair that are exactly the style I am looking for, but are discontinued it seems. I like 2 buckles and 7 inch height. Rare for engineers, yes.

>white’s custom order refunded
Was thinking about getting Frank’s.

the noble shoe or skoaktiebolaget for doing an enzo bonafe mto?

>>17820654
i dealt with all the bonafe mto people (lorenzo, skoak, kostas) except for mehra, but i heard great things from him too. Both will be fine, go with either. If they have some leather or pattern exclusive to them, you have no choice anyway.

>>17820654
I have done twice with Skoak and I had no complaints.
First one took 2 months.
Second one took 5 months (but Enzo Bonafe died in the meantime, plus August summer vacations).

I have no experience with Noble Shoe.

>>17820667
>>17820654
I forgot to say, the popular "Balway" pattern (clone of Galway) is exclusive to Lorenzo who is based in the US.

I have not asked him whether it'd be possible to order through him but have EB ship them directly to me (in Europe) because otherwise I'd be paying import duties as if they come from America.

>>17820668
If you want a Balway, you have to go to lorenzo. Im from the EU too and they will just ship it from the factory. You will pay neither VAT or duties.

>>17820554
Their reply went to the spam folder so not Carmina's fault.

Ridgeway (Victoria) sole only goes on a few lasts according to Carmina, and Forest is not one of them.
Oh well.

Own a pair of Loake chukkas since 2 yrs back. 9/10 will buy again

>>17820694
You can go for the dainite sole without worrying about it being as hard as real dainite. Pretty sure the same rubber factory make their Victoria sole.

>>17820711
I have tried Carmina's dainite and it's true it's nowhere near as bad as the real thing but still bad for marble

>>17820712
What about the lug halfsole? Its comfy, has good grip and you get the uninterrupted leather stack

>>17820718
I actually have that too. It was my second choice (I went with country in black to try it out).

It's really good but the lugs at the front are actually a bit short, I wonder how long they will last. Like they're not tall at all, the ones at the front end of the sole just barely stick out.
Alden's half lug is the same, also very short lugs.

>>17820722
its certainly not the best sole for the city but other than tomir you don't really have any other choices, unless you go commando sole. No clue how the traction is with tomir, its in between the one with a shit ton of studs and dainite in terms of thickness.

>>17820605
Bro works at the White House Joe Biden lookin ass

>>17820696
Looks nice. I have the C&J Molton. I like really like it. What do you think about dainite soles? I think they're great, and OP should be forced to pay for his anti-dainite degeneracy.

>>17820605
I can probably wear the vibergs to the office but they're a little too casual because of contrasting brass eyelets

How come some bootmakers are unable to create the back piece without a buttcrack in the leather? I can't imagine it would be done if it wasn't necessary. Looks retarded. But even Tricker's does it on their Stow boot.

>>17820751
seems fitting for the brand

>>17820666
>>17820667
>>17820668
excellent, thank you. i didn't know the balway was specific to solegarb. i was looking to get 2 mtos done for those and a pair of black oxford shoes.

>>17820751
pretty sure the buttcrack is necessary otherwise you can't close the upper, a lot of manufacturers will sew on a back stay to hide that seam

>>17820220
Bootcut, you don't really need that specific style of jeans as long as you aren't wearing skinny jeans, but yeah boots don't look great while tucking in your jeans, but I've had to do it before.

>>17820751
That's why some high end makers produce "seamless wholecut" oxfords which you have to pay extra for.

But Meccariello can even make a seamless wholecut boot, which I've never seen anybody else make.

>waiting for 6 MTO's hopefully by the end of the year
anything interesting anons are waiting for or looking to order? Carmina's custom weekend in 2 weeks.
>>17820923
beautiful

>>17820943
Waiting for my Frank's patriot boots.
I kinda want to buy another pair to switch off between but with a soft toe.

What do you guys think about shell cordovan work boots?
It isn't a new thing, back when horses were used everywhere shell cordovan was basically as cheap as bovine leather and used in work boots.

>>17820943
i constantly have the itch to get something new, because these fucking things only get more expensive as time goes on, but i kind of don't care for anything specific right now and i feel like it'd just be doubling up on what i already have
it's getting so tiresome to check up on a boot you were kind of considering down the line and the price shot up, so now you just give up caring about them completely
the constant
>wait these didn't cost that much last time i checked
wanted shinki lofgren combat boots some day, but the toe spring was kind of putting me off, got an email a while back that they are increasing prices
fuck that

guess i'm sticking with what i have, half the shit is barely broken in anyway

>>17821000
>guess i'm sticking with what i have, half the shit is barely broken in anyway
i couldn't agree more, but i still got so many ideas, only going MTO nowadays, apart from the occasional good deal on the likes of EG, Tricker's and bootmakers i haven't tried yet.

>>17820943
>anything interesting anons are waiting for
my annual cash back to waste it on a pair of boots

>>17820943
i have a pair of john lofgren donkey punchers coming in november, hopefully. i am a little nervous about the fit, so i hope they work out.

Any UK anons rec decent boot retailers?
I want to get a pair of brown leather boots in a "classical" style.

>>17821020
eastwest apparel

>>17820990
Sounds expensive

>>17821017
You should be. He doesn’t know how to handle anything but women’s widths or jap feet. That’s why he fucked off to Japan in the first place.

>>17820949
He’s coming close to me and has me on the schedule for a fitting. After my White’s refund I got an extra 900 bucks to blow, but I’m wondering what to get.

>>17821027
Nice, I would get something with one of their limited leathers, like oil tanned latigo tan.
Probably a Wilshire with a logger heel profile in Latigo tan.

>>17821023
here's hoping the width doesn't screw me over.

Considering getting a pair of black boots. I have two pairs of brown ones (copper Blacksmiths and Hawthorne Iron Rangers). Considering the black harness Rangers because I know how RWs fit and they fit me good. Considered Whites but they’re double the price and I won’t be wearing the black ones as much as the brown ones.
What other boots should I be comparing? I like chunkier boots more than dress boots, I dress very casually.

>>17821017
what last are they on? I have the 140 last on a pair of JL shoes, and the width is great.

>>17820990
most of the PNW brands have no idea how to work with cordovan and because it's a lot more ridig they just rip it apart when lasting, that is why they don't offer it and whan they do the price is astronomical
i don't think cordovan lends itself well to stitchdown construction, i just don't think you can restitch over it all too many times before it just cracks apart, i know viberg does it and they are they omnipotent gods, so i may be wrong on that
it's is quite water sensitive and can get permanent water spots, especially the cheap shit not from horween
shell is too expensive for actual work work boots, so it's just for hipster hobby "work"
it looks like ass in my opinion if you just want to neglect it, beat it to shit and let them say filthy
if you are not even brushing it what is even the point in paying out the ass for it
it is really sensitive to solvents and certain cleaners can really fuck it up more than other leathers

>>17821065
120 last. how old is your pair and what size did you get vs your brannock? i guess they changed the sizing so after talking with their customer service they recommended going down half a size from 10 to 9.5 instead of the old recommendation of one ehole size down.

>>17821074
from 2022, i went TTS but 0.5 down would have worked fine, i slide in them without thick socks.

>>17821076
from what i know the donkey punchers before 2023 were a full size down from brannock
now they changed the sizing on 0,5 down like their other boots

>>17820751
>>17820817
Grant Stone calls it "decorative," implying they could remove it. I personally really didn't like it in photos, but in person I don't even notice it. In fact, seams are where boots show the most patina, so I like it.

yes or no?

>>17821141
im dumb

>>17821143
who makes it

>>17821146
Thursday

>>17821172
lol

>>17821017
My main boots are the Lofgren Ludlow boots. Can’t really say much about the donkey punchers, but the Ludlow last (same as their combat boots) fits my feet perfectly. I had a pair of their engineers and they were just too roomy, I had to get inserts. Speaking as an 11.5D brannock

>>17821186
can you recommend me something similar

>>17818710
>Folks here a story ‘bout Minnie the Moochah!
>She was a low down a-hyooo-chi coochah!

>>17821192
meermin if poor, rm williams if not

>>17817180
What would you expect to pay for a pair of Lucchese cowboy boots in worn condition like these?

>>17821368
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-q29hbEP04

>>17821368
I'd take them for free if someone wanted to give them to me.

How did the doc marten demographic shift from skinhead to sõyboy

why do you guys hate chelsea boots

>>17821495
They both look gay and sloppy.

>>17821495
I like them but cannot pull them off.

>>17817628
Not a usual /fa/ guy, but Loakes, Herrings, and Trickers are all good quality English style shoes. Hugo Jacomet of Sartorial Talks agrees in his Best Shoe Brands vids

>>17818782
Half an inch is pretty short imo. A thumb's width extra room at the toes is standard and that's about 1 inch. You might need at least half a size up

>>17821623
as long the ball of the foot is in the right place and your toes aren't squeezed, its fine.

>>17821513
yeah they really get stuck on your feet sometimes

Why would you ever get gaysea boots when you can just buy ropers instead???

nice one franks
>erm, actually it's the customers fault and not franks for approving and making it without second thought

>>17821747
lmao do they have no communication with the customers? The indonesians and chinese guys verified everything with me twice over whatsapp/instagram. I don't care if it sounds "sketchy" if its a way better experience talking in live chat.

>>17821747
the thing is people get really weird with pnw mtos so this could have been 100% intentional. you have to go with what the customer asks for

>been wearing a size 10 shoe my whole adult life
>noticed that a pair of leather boots I wear often has developed a stretch around the pinky toe, pushing out slightly past the sole
>finally measured my feet on a brannock device
>9E
I may never have second-guessed it if I hadn't gotten something leather and instead just kept blowing through chucks every 6-12 months.
Now I have to go find some 9E boots to see how they feel.

>>17821812
That's not as bad as my realization. I was wearing size 12 or 13 sneakers. Got my first pair of boots and they were a size 9E. Turned out my brannock is 10E and I have been wearing clown shoes to accomodate my width and instep.

>>17821812
>>17821819
i'm convinced 90% of people walk around with the wrong shoe size thanks to the pinch the toe box method for checking size. the most important metric is is from back off heal to the ball of your foot, second is width at the ball of the foot, and third is the toe box and even then extra room in the toe box is a good thing

>>17821812
>wear size 9 running shoes
>have to buy size 9.5 trail runners
>now all size 9 running shoes feel too tight
Feet are weird dude

>>17821819
I'm really glad that I'm not the only one, I've felt like a total moron for the last couple of days after finding out.
They just didn't have E sizes on the shelf when I was a kid (small town shoe stores). I didn't even realize it was an option until I started wearing boots and had to get familiar with sizing, by which time I'd already been wearing D sizes for years.

>>17821825
Agreed. After wearing some better-fitting shoes, it feels completely different.

>>17821830
Once your feet get some breathing room and spread out a little, they don't want to go back.
I got a pair of saguaros (minimalist, zero drop, 5mm padding, wide toe box, looks almost as stupid as the toe shoes), and they're hands-down the most effective shoes I own. It's not even close. My posture is better, my stride is smoother, I feel lighter, and I feel completely stable when I walk and run on any terrain. I think the wide toe box (and lack of heel to some extent) is the reason for that.
I would love a good pair of leather boots that fits well enough to feel that way.

>>17821812
this is very common because most cheaper shoes get made in a standard width and people usually just compensate by going up in length. modern shoes are so full of padding that you can do that

Speaking of shoe size. I want to buy this pair of Justin ropers, except I don't know what size to get. I don't have a brannock device. I wear US 10 in cons. US 11 in nike. US 10.5 in french rangers.

>>17821495
Elastic, feminine

>>17821755
They do have communication with the customer, they only way you can customize this much is by calling them up and doing a custom order.
That anon is mad that Frank's doesn't deny customization requests because a anon on 4chan doesn't like it.
He wants the final say on custom boots made by Frank's.
But for someone reason isn't mad at White's for allowing the same amount of customization >>17819463 or Wesco.

>slips on hard floor surface
nothing personnel kid heh

>>17821918
studded soles, my beloved

>>17821905
>But for someone reason isn't mad at White's for allowing the same amount of customization >>17819463 # or Wesco.
one guy here has declared jihad on Frank's because they dont hate fags

Is there any real difference between any of the PNW boot makers? They all seem kinda same-y.

>>17821957
Yeah, most of them have slightly different patterns, some have different lasts, different models.
They have different lead times, they allow different amounts of customizations.
Different levels of customer service.

>>17821957
they're all just bastard babies of whites

Where to get a nice high quality American boot in Europe that is NOT Viberg or Alden?
I have Vibergs. Great quality but I don't like the fit.
I have Aldens. Great fit but they're just not very well built.

>>17821957
They seem same-y because a lot of them are originally White's employees stealing their design and production ways and starting their own company like Nigs

>>17821962
Except Wesco and Truman.

>>17821963
W H I T E S

>>17821966
Not in Europe

>>17821967
eastwest apparel

>>17821968
I meant, not in EU

Buying from UK means I still gotta pay customs (at least 35% of the price)

When Americans buy import boots like Grant Stone from China do you really not have to go through the hassle + payment with customs?
Do you just allow Chinese imports freely, no questions asked?

For me there would be a delay, I'd sometime get a call and then have to pay many different flat flees plus a +24% VAT on the price. And the more I delay, the more I'd have to pay.
And it's a process. There's phonecalls to do. Emails to send. Payments to confirm. It's not seamless at all.
They might even call you to go to the customs office in person.

>>17821965
do people consider Truman pnw proper?

>>17821977
no

>>17821977
Kinda, they aren't logger style boots though.

>>17821970
It's literally on the fucking front page.
>All import costs for orders above £250 (for the items, not including shipping costs) are covered by East West Apparel and so the price you see on the product page is the price you will pay (which will get converted to your currency) + the below shipping costs. There will be no import taxes or duties for you to pay unless your order value for items only is under £250.

>>17821974
for gs the company deals with the import/customs stuff. the boots we get are shipped from their warehouse in the us. idk how it works for the instagram makers like flame panda or ironboots though.

>>17821974
grant stone ships from their American warehouse so they're already imported. whatever taxes would need to be paid would be paid before its put up for sale
ship it outside the us however and you'll get your standard local duty rape

>>17821974
delivery service handles customs for me, i just send them the payment info and the money afterwards. If its low amounts, they will pay it and later bill it to me. Most chinks are based, so they lower the value of the product anyway. This is in the EU.

>>17821980
Oh that's cool
I'm in one of the naughty countries listed with a 45 pound delivery fee because we're very expensive.
But at least 45 pounds is clear.

>>17821880
There's a ghetto brannock that you can print yourself and measure your feet:
https://www.acemarks.com/pages/size-guide
Used it myself as I'm in Europe and no brannocks around. Finally confirmed that my feet are wider than regular, they came out as 9E.

w2c custom canvas sided leather boots / jungle boots?

>>17822023
Frank's Ryker

>>17822006
I was thinking of doing that. Hopefully it's accurate.

Can anyone ID these?

>>17818710
These spectator shoes are not for you, anon. I promise

>>17821629
Bro said initially that his toes hurt. I think his shoes might be too short.

>>17821623
>>17822343
english isnt my first language so maybe I didnt word it well
blue is how it fits, red is where is hurts a ton. the area where people get bunions. I'm sure they just need breaking in but sizing up definitely isnt the solution, theyre already sliding around if I dont tie the laces like a noose

>>17821747
Happening everywhere. Even White’s is fucking up now. Production is through the roof and shit is starting to slip through the cracks.

>>17822359
it looks like a last issue, nothing to do with width

>>17822367
I agree, I probably got the best size I could and the shape just doesn't suit me that well

>>17822359
>>17822369
iktf of a last just not working for you. i had to sell on a pair of trumans because their last just curved in a little too much for me and cause the knuckle on my big toes to rub and get sore. really sucked because i liked those boots.

>>17822369
What boots are you wearing?

you may not like it but this is peak performance

>>17822474

>>17822474
Alden TruBalance is the non-retard version of this.
The Indy's faux-toe stitchinng helps mask the spade shape.

>breaking in new motorcycle boots
>wearing them around the house and walking around for the past week
>probably look autistic, dont care
>put 15 year old rm williams back on
>mfw
i am become comfort

Thoughts on Paraboot?

I want a pair of casual/durable boots I can wear with both raw denim and pants. But rugged enough to walk the dog in the forest.

In Europe other brands to consider are Diemme and Danner.

Red wing classic Chelsea’s or iron rangers? I want a pair of non dress black boots.

>>17822969
Coniston in black RO suede

>>17817180
boots?
More like feet engayeners.

>>17817975
In a way, Its kind of like black hands are touching my feet.

>>17822473
https://www.carolinashoe.com/en/amp-usa-6-inch-soft-toe-work-boot-16362.html?dwvar_16362_color=Brown&dwvar_16362_size=13
my poorfag cope

>>17822973
I want black leather. Are Blunnies okay?

>>17817244
I love women so much it's unreal

>>17817180
Why the fuck does shoe passion take so long to restock

>>17822892
>In Europe other brands to consider are Diemme and Danner.
And Fracap.

>>17823020
>Are Blunnies okay?
no

>>17823005
I recommend these if you like wedge soles but need a work boot, EEE in the toe and D in the heel, so you shouldn't have any problem with your feet hurting.
https://jimgreenfootwear.com/store/razorback-wedge-sole-brown/

>>17819467
just ordered my second ever pair of redwing iron rangers before seeing this and now I weep in envy. should I refund and go with whites? I have high arches that have always given me trouble in any shoe, but is it worth the extra hundreds?

>>17823406
yes as someone who started out with RW as their first high quality footwear. I personally wished i jumped straight into white's

Thinking about buying a pair of Redwings mostly just to get my sizing right lel. Since so many guides and boot companies compare their sizing to "what you wear in Redwings". Company I plan on buying from have such easy returns, every order gets a prepaid return form, so I can buy more than one size and just try them on at home to get the correct size.

>>17823409
do you find insoles are needed at all? I got some SOLE recorks too in preparation for the arch issues but if I can return those too it'll be a nice chunk off the overall price. God those outsoles look like heaven

>>17823414
>do you find insoles are needed at all?
not with the white's

>>17823406
Yes, do it anon!

>>17823409
I’ve wondered if I should have done the same. I have two brown pairs of RWs that I like and I’m considering buying a third to have a pair of black boots since I won’t wear them as much as brown. But I think my next pair of brown boots will be Whites MPs. Red Wings are an incredible value for the price but Whites seem like a cut above.

I am looking for a pair of boots with a square toe.
Can anyone recc a brand? tThank youu

>>17823443
i got a pair of the 875 (pic rel, my oldest pair, produced in 2009), a pair of the IR and a pair of the beckmans, and its not to say the RWs are bad but yeah the comfort of the white's is just miles ahead

>>17823448
>a square toe
but why

>>17823453
LOL I have those three pairs of RW. Too bad I'm too poor and european for Whites, maybe someday, but if prices keep skyrocketing, I'm gonna get priced out forever.

>>17823461
(this is not financial advice) but i'd say swallow the cost and get them now because they'll only get more expensive in the future

>>17823448
>I am looking for a pair of boots with a square toe.
Gaziano & Girling

>>17823495
WATER DOOOOOSEEEE

>>17823462
And shitty. They aren’t limiting production, in another five years I’m betting they’ll be doc-tier.

>>17823563
Bakers final few has more and more fuck ups. There’s a pair on there now with fucked up tongues but I think the regular stuff is still fine and probably subject to more QC than their custom orders.

>>17823568
the final few section is getting so weird, how did they produce two different sized boots unless directed by a customer, but why didn't the customer take delivery of them?

>>17823573
>how did they produce two different sized boots unless directed by a customer
They are custom orders, everyone has different sized feet and custom MTO are often pushed into getting different sized boots when they don't really need them for the most part.
>but why didn't the customer take delivery of them?
Most likely returned because they didn't fit.

>>17823573
>>17823577
There’s a 9.5FF pair with obviously fucked up tongues though. Bakers didn’t even mention it in the description
https://bakershoe.com/products/whites-brown-horsehide-bounty-hunter-size-9-5ff

>>17823584
whats fucked up about the tongues? they purposely use a larger piece so that you can fold them over in a S shape

>>17823586
You can’t see the poor dye job? No polish in the world can fix that

>>17823588
That does look shit.

>>17823592
eh normal colour variation and using it on the tongue is better than using it anywhere else

>>17823595
For however much those cost I would expect better quality.

>>17823597
blame hormeme

>>17823584
It does look weird, but we can't really see the inside or it pulled out all the way to see if it actually is fucked up.
Could just be a roll in the leather.

>>17823598
>not our fault lmao it's the tannery
>when Miguel Torres could've just thrown out that piece of leather and gotten another piece
You get rolls of leather and some pieces at the end of the roll are meant to be tossed, not used. You can blame the tannery all you want but if I got those boots I would return them also

>>17823588
>>17823592
>You can’t see the poor dye job? No polish in the world can fix that
They expect you to wear a kiltie over it, it isn't that bad, not on the vamp, most of it will be covered by your pants and the rest will be covered by a kiltie.

>>17823606
cope: the post
I would return that shit also

>>17823604
well yeah, the colour variation is 100% the tannery what the fuck are you smoking

>>17823608
>not our fault lmao sorry customer you got weird looking boots take it up with the tannery no refunds
I'm sure the bank or credit card will accept that excuse when somebody who gets custom boots files a complaint and refund request.

>>17823617
if you want 100% consistency rubber/plastic boots will be more your speed

>>17823620
Do you white's shills do it for free or are you paid by the post/hour/whatever?

>>17823607
Anon these are work boots, not Enzo Bonafe shoes.
No need to be nit picky on something no one will see except yourself.

>>17823629
its non whites blowing up nitpicks to make white's look bad

>>17823629
if I got a pair of Trickers or Vibergs that looked like that they would exchange them sight unseen

>>17823629
Those boots were 950 bucks retail. I would return them also.

>>17823633
>if I got a pair of Trickers or Vibergs that looked like that they would exchange them sight unseen
Again Whites is a work boot company, Viberg has a work boot brand under them but those aren't what you're talking about.
You're holding them to standards that they aren't supposed meet. They will never be Viberg casual line, or Trickers and they aren't meant to, it's a work boot company that branched out into heritage boots.
Would you not wear a Smoke jumper you need for wildland fire work because the tongue is a different tone and will be covered up by a false tongue anyway?

>>17823573
did nobody think 8.5ee and 9.5e were a little too far apart and double check with the customer? I think they'd be fine to refuse to make that without tracings

>>17823634
You obviously can do that because the original owner did, but it's stupid to expect a brand that has been making work boots for over 100 years to be as meticulous in getting everything perfect as a fashion brand that specializes in that.

>>17823641
For a custom job that costs that much, they should be. They obviously aren’t work boots and are fashion boots by the look of them. Nobody is saying whites is trash but they fuck up and it seems like they are fucking up more often recently

>>17823644
everything getting shittier is just par for the course of a multiracial society tho

>>17823646
Wow, that sucks. Too bad it’s not my problem.

>>17823644
They cost $700 standard, the guy just chose options until they were $935.
What I'm getting at is that their casual heritage boots are made exactly the same as their work boots, which is why people buy their boots, if they made them the same way that Viberg makes their casual line they wouldn't be what White's boots are.

>>17823649
see>>17823631

>>17823649
For 700 I expect something more meticulous. I had a similar problem with a pair of Trickers and they exchanged them sight unseen

>>17817180
yo /btg/ i got some Carolina Engineers/Installers (?) a while back from a rec on this board and i love them, i'm wondering if I should branch out and get a pair of cowboy boots. there's a reputable boot shop in my town and i'm wondering
>if they're shit
>if i'll be seen as a sperg
>if they're comfortable for walking an hour a day
thanks guise

>>17823664
cowboy boots are fine as long as you don't tuck your pants into them

>>17823656
dude get real
$500 is pretty much entry level these days
i wish i was joking

>>17823656
>For 700 I expect something more meticulous.
Which is why you should buy Viberg or Trickers and not a work boot brand making heritage boots the same way they make work boots.

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>>17823664
>there's a reputable boot shop in my town
>he can just wake up in the morning one day
>not even brush teeth
>walk straight into his truck with pyjamas still on
>not even take his gun because it's a white people town
>drive a cool 20 minutes downtown
>not even pay for parking because US towns aren't rat mazes
>walk into a store and say howdy
>spend 10 minutes trying a few pairs real quick
>buy one made in the USA for cheap, supporting his country's economy
>get a footlong sub and a dr pepper from the eatery next door to go
>speed on the way home real quick because he has a speed camera detector in his bigass truck
>dog and wife greet him
>go back in bed for a quick nap

God I wish I was American.