/fa/ - Fashion

finally at age 35 I found something that doesn't tear up my neck

we're gonna make it bros

>>17803719
imagine smoothing and softening yourself everyday like a woman, if youre going to go through all the effort, you might as well just get electrolysis

>>17803719
skill issue

>looks cool but is never used

>>17803773
this
I used to cut my self constantly until I learned the proper way

>>17803719
It was actually the guy holding the razor that cut you. I suggest beating the shit out of him the next time you see his ugly countenance.

>>17803788
Those things scare the shit out of me. I might end up slitting my own throat with it.

>>17803719
You only cut yourself when learning, like at most 5 times. This it's mostly skill issues anon

>>17803719
I haven't cut myself once since switching from cartridge to safety razor this year not to mention how dirt cheap using it is best decision of 2023 for me

>>17803830
sadly i havent figured out a good way to use those on my head so i keep a cheap cartridge razor for my chrome dome

>>17803863
I still use a bic body razor for my pubes

I bought one but I'm too scared to try it. I don't cut myself with cartridges though

>>17803719
>>17803890
B-but anons, it's called safety razor for a reason. The shaving cream needs to be applied and of a consistency so you can run your razor on your skin smoothly, easily. No pressure, you just go over your skin, let the blade do the work. You basically have to do nothing. You're probably overthinking it, or your are in a hurry to get to work. You can do that when you get the hang of it. Start after work, on the weekend. Also, the beard needs to be trimmed short. These razors are for shaving stubble, not a beard.

Been using a Philips electric razor for years now. I bought a pretty high-end model and I find that I can get a better shave in much shorter time compared to a standard razor. Not as smooth as going against the grain with a traditional razor but smoother than going with the grain with a classic razor and a lot faster process.

>>17803733
Nice scam you got there. Subscription without subscription. You'll own nothing and you'll be happy.

>>17803719
Sounds like a (You) problem, learn how to shave properly with a DE.

>>17803719
>cuts faggots
>leaves men with a silk smooth close shave

>>17804146
The blade lasts for around 6 months and a replacement is like $10. Its way more economical than cartridge razors. Straight edge is obviously cheaper, but some people dont want a super smooth shave. I personally use a shitty beard trimmer i bought more than a decade ago cause even the one blade is a bit too close a shave for me.

>>17803719
skill issue

Here's some tricks to help you shave with a safey razor without getting cuts
>buy a decent razor (don't get the cheap chinese ones for like 10 bucks)
>make sure your face is wet and warm
>make sure you replace your blade regularly
>make sure your soap or paste isn't too wet or too dry
>don't put too much pressure when shaving
>always have your blade perpendicular to your face(
Don't skip any of these steps otherwise you'll cut yourself

i use gilette but i just dont change the razors
seems to work fine

>>17803811
It’s a patience issue for me and sometimes I just meed a quick shave

>>17803733
have you thought about just not shaving like a retarded monkey on 3 expressos?

>>17803719
ive literally never cut myself on accident while shaving. i dont even have to try its just naturally so easy for me. i had to start cutting myself on purpose so people dont think i think im better than them. but i do. and i am.

>>17803719
shit blade issue, like guilette

>>17803805
no it's the razor
consider the following
>two razors
>one barber
>one razor cuts
>other doesn't

>>17803830
which blades?

I use a gillette fusion for my head and a feather D2 with feather blades for my neck and jawline. I finally understand wet shaving perfectly after maybe a year.

>>17803733
>He can't figure out how to shave with the grain

Tried it again today. Fresh blade. Went slower. Still cut myself.

>>17804537
mate you're full of shit if the blade is perpendicular to my face it can't even touch my face

>>17804146
I don't want to pay, Im literally forced to since everything else tears up my face

>>17805134
>>17805275
There is no "grain", my beard is thick and the hair is growing out in all directions. betas with low follicle density will never comprehend this.

>>17803733
>razor
I don´t know why but the razors lasts like 10-12 shaves. Maybe they are doing it with worst quality nowadays.

>>17803719
I bought one because was constantly being shilled over here, but I agree with the shilling. I bought one like an year ago or so, a box of blades and probably is going to take years in order to need another set.
I'm not gonna lie, in the first week or so you have to get used to the weight and you're going to cut yourself, but after that minor adaptation time, you're going to use it like any other razor.

>>17803719
only if you're a careless retard.

how many times can you use a razor on a safety razor? do you alternate the side you use?

>>17805819
>10-12 shaves
I use my feathers once since they are that cheap

>>17806241
Depends on the razor, some last longer than others. They’re cheap enough that I just use a new one each time. I use both sides when shaving.

How do guys get an actually smooth shave? It feels like im doing everything right. Hot water, preshave, shaving cream, cut with feather blades
with, across, and against grain. Still visibly stubbly and even if i do more passes it seems like it just wont get smoother.

>>17803719
Don’t worry doesn’t cut as deep as getting rejected by every crazy slut that’s ever posted on /fa/ for the last 15 years

>>17806338
Sounds like you're overdoing it, like you are burying the hair in the skin or something with all the procedure and pre-procedure.
>>17803719
You really need to think of the shave as something simple as the DE razor itself. Keep it short and simple. If you don't get a good result right away, don't mind, you'll get a better result the next day. You're fucking the skin up with twenty passes against the grain and what not.

>>17804336
This.

>>17803719
>cuts my neck almost every time
>leave my balls smooth and shiny
I will use it only downstairs

>>17806241
depends entirely on the razor

>>17806338
by using a good razor if you're lucky enough to find one
a shit shave like yours is what i get from any guilette

>>17806504
Your balls are moist. Make your neck moist.

>>17806504
>I will use it only downstairs
Is it weird that I use the same DE razor for my balls AND face?

>>17806338
>How do guys get an actually smooth shave?
By shaving against the grain.

>>17806241
>how many times can you use a razor on a safety razor?
Till it feels dull or you feel fancy and want an extra smooth shave.
Some shit razor brands are dull brand new from the packaging tho.
Avoid Gillette products made in India for Asian market, the ones made in St. Petersburg are good.
>do you alternate the side you use?
wdym?
When both sides are full of foam and hair stubbles I rinse it.

>>17806266
>>17806271

>>17807792
yes.

If I shave after 5 days of not shaving I have zero cuts and no problems. But if I try to shave while the beard is still stubby I cut myself constantly, it just doesn't work smoothly. Any tips?

>>17803719
no cause im not retarded

>>17807831
pay more attention to the angle of the blade.
you should feel it cutting hairs rather than sliding or snagging.

>>17803811
my hair bumps the skin out enough that I shave the top of the skin off all the time, never really cut myself with this outside of my nose one time with dealing with upper lip, but I get small bloody patches due to this all the time... SO much better than electric razors though, that bit of autism in me that cant stop shaving till I stop hearing it hit hair is a non issue.

my problem could be fixed with better prep work, but fuck me I don't want to do it.

>>17804105
yea running the blade over skin does shit, I need to apply pressure, but I also shave once every month or two, I fucking hate this shit on my face, but there is no permanent solution to it.

>>17806266
feathers are only good for one shave, maybe 2 depending on thickness, I personally use persona labs and get 3-5 before it's noticeably bad, change it and its fucking butter, my feathers can go from holy shit to is this a fucking derby half way through.

>>17803808
I use a shavette, essentially a straight razor that uses disposable razors for the blade, these fuckers are harder to use than a straight razor and I have never even come close to doing that, a straight razor, a proper one, is easier to use, and give a better shave, the only reason they fell out of favor was cleanliness at barber shops.

>>17803890
I got enough tism in me that I cut myself with safety razors and every other shaver I have ever used.

electric razors are the worst, when they bite they sting for days
cartridge cuts and it sucks, but its manageable
safety can cut anywhere but you dont feel shit
shavettes/straight razors can easily shave the tip of skin (hair pushes skin up a bit, you shave flat, and small bits of skin are gone with it)

I have hair that comes out near directly under my lip and near directly above, to actually deal with that shit, I need to either tweezer it out, or I need get so close that i'm going to cut myself almost regardless of what I do. I also have a butt chin to some degree and getting anything in there to make it smooth is going to cut a bit.

>>17807801
1-5 feathers are the worst for durability, others are better but also have worse shaves, see derby, the happy medium would probably be persona labs where you get 2-5 shaves depending on hair thickness, but generally 3 and replace.

>>17806338
Do not use the same blade more than a dozen times. This sounds like a nobrainer, but I'm sure some niggardly fucks out there will try to make their blades last longer. One thing I've noticed, having used a number of different brands, is that Feather blades don't last very long. The first couple of shaves are very smooth, but after that it gets rough. By contrast, my Mühle blades last about twice as long before needing to be changed.

>>17803719
I have been using one like this for quite a few years now. Never going back to the fake and gay plastic ones. Yes it does cut you sometimes but it's been so much better on my face in general.

I finish off my shave with some beef tallow from Vanman's and my face absolutely glows.

FYI, you need to know how to use these types of razors beforehand, otherwise, yes, you will be cutting your face more.

anyone rec a decent shaving cream? considering proraso

>>17803719
it's 2023 we have the technology

favorite blades? treet platinum has been the best for me but also like gillette silver blue

>>17806338
give up and use nair

>>17808288

>>17808281
That looks like something I could get for my brother, is it similar in use to a cartridge? Looks best-of-both-worlds.

>>17808281
>>17808396
I looked it up, it's not for the face, they offer different, single-bladed models for that.

How are these things for shaving body hair?

>>17808396
yes it has a flexible head just like a cartridge razor but takes double ended razor blades (snapped in half)
one nice thing is it doesn't get clogged as easily as most cartridge razors do
>>17808487
i use it on my face just fine, they market it that way cause the head is kind of large so it's not great for fine detail work and you gotta be careful to not miss hairs on your upper lip

>>17808580
depends on the razor and the blades
the great combos are way better than cartridges, you do less passes and it doesn't get fucking clogged constantly
the bad combos are too sharp and you end up getting a bunch of nicks

>>17803719
>>17803733
>>17803788
>>17808281
>>17804537
>>17808288
>>17808359

Kneel.

>>17809010
>hairs on your upper lip
I was thinking about that, I don't see how I'd get the hairs right under the nose. Maybe in combination with the single blade, which would be pricey, though. But it's a cool design for sure, I've read you can even put three blades in there for the closest shave. Thanks!

>>17807801
bought a 10 brand pack on amazon, so far the Russian made Gillette platinum are the best.
on the 4th shave now and they still feel good.

>>17803733
I use four different instruments to do my facial grooming. Probably a bit excessive, but it's taken me years to perfect.

I too use the one-blade for my neck. It's the only thing that works quickly without tearing me up. But I always square up my jaw line with a traditional razor.

>>17803719
I have cutted my face here and there all my life while shaving, but it stopped when I bought OP's.

Learn to use it correctly anon! you should not apply pressure at all.

I bought these because they were cheap and well rated. I cut myself, but maybe I'm just an idiot

https://www.amazon.com/Astra-Platinum-Double-Safety-Blades/dp/B001QY8QXM/

>>17803719
Yes, thats what I am trying to do to the hair on my face. Thanks.

>>17809727
I always cut above my chin because there's like a 90 degree angle there. The downside of being a chinmogger I suppose.

>>17810687
My 100 pack of these is going to run out in a couple of weeks. Should I switch to something else or buy another one?

>>17810793
Try Feather next and report back on which you prefer.

>>17810687
those things are sharp, it's easy to cut yourself with them
you can get less sharp/aggressive blades if you want

What's the best option to contour my beard?

>>17810687
Yes, not the best for beginners. I took a chunk out of my neck the first time I used them. I came back to them after seeing how weak and pathetic other blades were by comparison. To bad they are owned by Gillette.

>>17803719
Can't cut yourself if you never shave.

>>17808359
knower

>>17810687
try oil for preshave

>he needs more

>>17811383
>>17811424
Might be a question of preference and temperament. However. First thing my father taught me about knives: wield the blade away from the body, and the first thing my mother taught me about knives: they have to be sharp, or they yield poor results. And the best thing I've learned about tools in general all by myself: use a good, proper one, and it's piece of cake, use worn out, ill fitting, low quality junk, and you win yourself a free trip to the hot nurses in the emergency room.

>>17811561
3$ blade vs 0.1$

>>17806338
for some of us it's simply impossible
I think it may be thick hair or something like that
even when freshly shaved I already got a 5 o'clock shadow

>>17807792
no
why would you need a different one?

>>17806338
same here, i think it just goes with being light skinned and dark haired

>>17806241
I use each blade twice
if there's no blade on the razor, I put on a new one and turn it the other way around after shaving
if the razor already has a blade, I use it and throw it afterwards
they're so cheap I don't feel like using it until it feels dull
>>17810687
I started with Astra blades too and they're not bad
I cut myself when starting a lot so it's just skill issue
the blue ones are slightly sharper than the greens imo
now I'm using Muhle blades and will try Feather when I finish these, but oh man... each box lasts about 2-3 years so it's going slow

>>17808227
Go with a good artisan soap over a cream, it's worked very well for me.

>>17803719
can someone redpill me on pic related

>>17808227
For me, it's Trufitt & Hill.

>>17808281
Disgusting fingernails. Why do Indians do this?

>>17805708
>mate you're full of shit if the blade is perpendicular to my face it can't even touch my face
I mean't the horizontal angle not the vertical

>>17803719
Having to look up how to use a DE razor online is peak , my mom is a single mother

>>17803719
I actually went back to disposable 3-blade razors.
the safety razor works too but system razors and disposables are more convenient.

>>17803756
>imagine smoothing and softening yourself everyday like a woman, if youre going to go through all the effort, you might as well just get electrolysis

>>17809026
foils are for touching up at the end, you cant shave your entire face with a foil on 2 weeks worth of growth

>>17803733
Blocks your path

>>17815221
>like a woman
imagine being on /fa/ and consider yourself manly

>>17803719
i cut myself less with this than those five bladed things just use a good shaving gel

>>17803808
lol you would have to be a huge spastic to manage that i cut myself with them before but it’s never more than a nick
they aren’t worth using though they’re a meme unless you have a proper one where you can keep resharpening and stropping it during your shave which is the advantage they offer

>>17815271
you use it every day dumbass

>>17803719
If you're afraid of cutting yourself shaving you're not a man.

How am I supposed to know which side is getting dull? Am I supposed to switch every stroke to keep them even?

>>17816923
Use one side till it needs a rinse, then switch, then rinse both.

>>17812729
Nice vibrator you got there buddy

I've been curious to try using just a single straight blade like the good ol days

Ever since I no longer need to be clean shaven (my last job) I put a hairtrimmer with no extension to my face to mow down the facial fungus. Then I use a granulated facial scrub to remove all the dead skin flakes and good to go.

>>17817295
it's a luxury nowadays
you need stones and leather

>>17817295
Don't buy cheap crap, it'll never take an edge. Buy shave-ready from a reputable seller, they're out there on Ebay. Get a good strop, shaving brush, and artisan shave soap.

>>17803719
I cut myself after using canned shave gel and Cremo. Haven't tried since.
Is soap and a brush the solution or am I simply bad?

>>17803756
Go tell that to Alexander, Julius Caesar, George Washington, and MacArthur.
Personally I think beards are fine if they can be grown, but there's nothing unmanly about being clean shaven

>>17803719
Never in my entire life have I been cut by a safety razor. Unironically a skill issue.

>>17817716
That wouldn't change it.

>>17817717
>Alexander
died from fucking men
>Julius Caesar
pederast
>George Washington
slave owner
>MacArthur
literally who?

>>17817716
Soap and brush gives better glide, but you shouldn't be getting more than a nick or two. Go slower, use less pressure, and get more hot water mixed in if you're using Cremo.

>>17817716
maybe

Do you shave with the grain first or against the grain first?

>>17803788
I use only this now. Granted, I'm not the hairiest guy out there but unless you're retarded or Parkinson's it's pretty easy to learn to never cut yourself.

>>17818879
I use the replaceable blade one though. Don't want to bother sharpening a blade that I can quickly swap out at the cost of $0.10

>>17818879
>it's pretty easy to learn to never cut yourself
That must be the take-away of this thread. This all can be learned. It must be. Because there was a time without cartridges, and a time without DE razors, and when you look at pictures from that time. Who looks better groomed. We really need to understand that we have it backwards today with a tech overload.

>>17803719
I'm about to finish my proraso soap in a couple of weeks and want something fancier
has anyone tried
>Geo.F.Trumper
>D.R. Harris
>Le Père Lucien
soaps?

>>17803719
I have bigger issues with ingrown hairs if I use it downstairs
How do you prevent/deal with ingrowns?

>>17808281
I have one of these, it's fine but not great.
I do my head as well as my face
You still need something to trim by the ears and right under he nose

>>17819333
I'm using caisson unscented, i don't have anything to compare it to since it's my first real shaving soap and was the only option on my military base lel

>>17819333
Le Pere Lucien is legit but expensive, depending on which country you're in I could give cheaper options among the various artisans that have sprung up.
D.R. Harris is middling, with a range of experiences with their hard soaps.
Geo. F. Trumper hard soap is a never buy, they contract out to Soapworks along with other British brands and it is glorified bath soap. However, the British brands often still have a very good shave cream.

>>17819723
Scratch that, Lucien is 7 oz tubs which is quite large, and makes the price reasonable.

>>17803733
I use this for my balls #swag

>>17803719
infinitely better than literally any multi blade razor. This bad boy has done wonders for my skin, nothing beats a nice shave with a new blade.

>>17819642
Can't find it over here.
>>17819723
>>17819728
I'm in Spain. Le Père Lucien is the cheapest of the 3 I posted. I'm looking for something unscented or with a scent that would go well with Prada L'Homme since that's what I use for work.
>Geo. F. Trumper hard soap is a never buy
Shame, their rose scented soap looked promising.
The only other niche brand available at my usual barber shop that has an unscented soap is Martin de Candre, but it's very expensive and I won't spend that much.

>>17803719
I use a straight razor for the sides and neck. I follow up with a cheap 2 or 1 blade disposable for the chin and mustache. This is the ONLY way for me.

>>17817717
How did those guys shave?

>>17820089
Alexander
>Alexander the Great encouraged his soldiers to cut their beards so that they couldn’t be grabbed by the enemy if it came to hand-to-hand combat
>Shaving razors were soon made out of copper or iron and looked much closer to the straight razors we know today
Julius Caesar
>Julius Caesar is reported to have had his beard hair plucked out with tweezers
>Young Roman men would celebrate their first shave with a party as a way to welcome in adulthood
>The novacila was used for shaving, the pumice stone made an appearance again to help rub off stubble, and afterwards, massage oils and perfumes would be used to soften the skin
George Washington
>The General kept his face stubble-free with the help of a few good tools: a razor, a comb, a strop, a whetstone, a shaving brush and box, and a traveling razor case
>Gentlemen in the 18th century often traveled with compact razor cases and Washington is known to have ordered several throughout his lifetime
MacArthur
>No idea, probably safety razor.

>>17817800
>muh slavery
Go back

>>17820080
I'd go for Le Père Lucien, then. Should last for quite a long time.

Does anyone use regular shave foam with a safety razor?

>>17815271
why the fuck would you only shave every 2 weeks

>>17805159
>the downie driver crashed the honda accord but not the power wheels from walmart therefore the car is to blame

>>17822467
I have with Barbasol, it works alright but you realize how much it sucks once you upgrade to soap and brush. Foam just doesn't hold water or provide slickness like soap.

>>17822467
Sure. It's really no different despite what people here will tell you. Barbasol is just fine. I always have a can just in case.

However, the economics and environmental benefits of using shave soap are quite great. Cheaper with less waste, lasts forever with a variety of scents and brands to use. Admittedly less convenient than canned foam and there is a learning curve to lathering up.

If I shave my body with a safety razor should I trim it down with an electric razor first?

>>17810687
yeah don't go all in on one blade
get a sample pack if you can and try a bunch out to see which one works best for you

>>17804537
>don't get the cheap chinese ones for like 10 bucks
I paid one dollar

>>17817716
which blade you use will have a bigger effect than the shaving gel/soap
also i dont know how people like the soap & brush combo. it's a hassle to use in the shower

>>17824428
You don't shower shave with it. Works best with some hot water in the sink for dipping the bristles.

>>17824428
oils can help with shit razors

>>17824444
ill keep shave gel then, shaving in the shower is so much more convenient

>>17810835
Just got 200 feathers for 50€, they better be good or I'll hold you personally accountable, anon

>>17819333
i use this. is it a big outlay for soap? yes, but it's cured so well that it lasts ages, i'm not even a third of the way through the jar yet. i love the scent as well

>>17819756
I got one of these at a goth convention thinking I was buying something stylish but pointless. First time I used it I was blown away by how much better it was than cartridges. How the hell did shaving technology go so far in the wrong direction? Been years now and I've never cut myself once and I'm not even being careful, so I don't know what the hell OP's problem is.

>>17825054
what razor you use

>>17824444
you could do a second or third pass in the shower with it, when you have the hang of it. just put shave lotion on when you get out to prevent the razor rash.

>>17817717
I talked to Marcus Furius Camillus.

>>17825044
I'm about to pull the trigger on it just because it has only 5 fucking ingredients
but I'd like to try something with tallow first
shame that Tabac switched to vegan soap

>>17826033
If you're in the United States, there are plenty of artisans making great tallow soaps to order off Pasteur or Maggards. Barrister & Mann, Noble Otter, House of Mammoth, Highlands Springs, Declaration Grooming, and more.

I will never stop shilling muh artisans, by the way.

>>17826058
sadly I'm an yuropoor
Le Père Lucien has some tallow soap, but it's not available at my local shop and shipping is expensive from theirs
I don't mind paying for it but I never had a tallow soap before so I want to try some first

>>17826123
B&M lists some European sites that stock their products, depending on which country you're in, as well as Noble Otter . Other vendors should have similar pages if they do have European stockists.
https://www.barristerandmann.com/pages/store-locator
https://www.nobleotter.com/pages/store-locator

just intimidate the blade into not cutting you.

I cut my jaw by the ear when i use these. My cheeks get smooth though.

I have used a Leaf razor, a Muhler Safety razor, but I keep going back to my cartridge Wilkinson because it's just way too easy and convenient. I like the perfectly smooth shaved feeling, which is almost impossible with other razors. I think my skin is too thick, so I put more pressure to get all the hairs against the grain, which you can only do with conventional cartridge razors.

Whenever I shave I get bumps. I don't cut myself, but I get bumps every time. I've resorted to going to the barber whenever I wanna shape up my beard.

>>17815545
>>17809026
different products with a different purpose, one blade is better unless you shave everyday, wish I don't becouse I have depression

>>17826033
>shame that Tabac switched to vegan soap
When?
>>17826058
Which is the best bang for the buck? I have some fine accoutrement fresh vetiver soaps but I hear now they got rid of the tallow and it’s a soft soap?

>>17803719
Isn’t that the point
>>17803756
Dis u?

>>17828019
If you want a bargain over everything else, get an Arko stick or a kilogram brick of Cella (it does exist!), those can't really be beat for price. Fine Accoutrements still has tallow in their mix, but it looks like fresh vetiver has been discontinued.

With shaving soap, it's never going to be quite as hard as bar soap, since potassium hydroxide is used to saponify the fats instead of regular lye. Specific hardness will depend on the particular soap base used. Fine Accoutrements might have reformulated since you purchased yours.

>>17828064
Which is your overall favorite? I don’t mind spending some extra money. I enjoy shaving daily and they last for a long time.

>>17828019
>When?
not really sure, a couple of years ago or so
pic rel new vs old

>>17828064
>a kilogram brick of Cella
I always hear people complaining about the strong bitter almond smell on this one and 1kg would last too many years for something not pleasant in the end

>>17828004
skill issue

>>17810687
astras are fine the only problem with them is theyre owned by gillette.
you can pay a bunch more and get feather blades. you can find pics of both blade edges under a microscope online easily. is it worth it? depends. astras will get the job just fine for way cheaper but with how long a box lasts: why not just get he best?
anyways i'm shaving with astras right now because feather was out of stock on amazon last time i needed a box.

>>17826058
shill me a low ingredient, scentless soap.
i've been using proraso white for like a decade because it doesn't make my skin break out.

>>17828308
here Anon >>17825044
they sell an unscented version too

>>17828070
I've personally had great shaves with Noble Otter, but their scents tend towards being weaker. Highlands Springs is good as well, Green Door is a great cedarwood fougère. Haven't tried myself, but I've heard many rave reviews of Barrister & Mann with the Omnibus base currently in use, and they've got a wide range of scent options.

>>17828308
House of Mammoth has Z, or for cheaper there's a few Stirling Soap offerings: Naked & Smooth is their regular beef tallow base without fragrance, Unscented with Beeswax adds beeswax, and Sheep is their mutton tallow base without scent.

Ariana and Evans has some nice soaps

>2012+12
>still doesn't know how to reddit shave
may as well give up and buy a foil shaver

>>17828998
>burns you with too much fragrance oil
nothing personnel...

>>17803733
based af. finally something that doesnt leave my neck red and bumpy

>>17824420
The razor not the blade

...Thats what you meant right

today I tried an open comb (Muhle R41) for the first time after years of shaving with closed comb
holy fuck it was scary
not a single cut and the shave was very smooth, but I would feel the blade almost scraping the hair instead of cutting it because I was too afraid to press more
I guess this is how a shavette would feel like

what should i look for if i eant a stubble
a trimmer?

>>17830298
Philips beard trimmer are good, use it without the guard for short stubble.

>>17829880
I can't wait for my Timor 1354 100mm to arrive. I am 36 and I felt I need a new routine in my life so I decided I will start shaving regularly instead of having a short beard and using only a machine. I started about a month ago with disposable cartrige razors, okay but I felt this can be much more enjoyable experience with some actual decent skill developed along side, so I ended up ordering a lower tier safety razor to try it out and it completely turned me around when it comes to shaving: I am looking forward to it and pride myself in having a nice clean shave. Also having to only buy cheap old school blades, the feeling of doing something that proved itself in time among other men, the tools it requires, the preparation, focus, skill etc, just gives so much satisfaction. I am extremely happy I decided to go with safety razors. Highly recommend!

I wet shaved my neck with my safety razor for the first time in like a decade and got pretty bad razor bumps. did it again a week later maybe and still got them pretty bad even though I shaved right after a shower so my skin was warm

>>17812729
I have the 3000 series and it gives me basically the equivalent of a two pass shave with a safety razor or better
but it does not do a good job for my neck and under my chin area

so i use it together with a safety razor

it's not bad honestly it'll just be more expensive than a safety razor in the long run

>>17831022
What lather did you use, which direction were you shaving, single or multiple passes? Necks can be sensitive.

>>17831098
just some fancy soap I got when I bought the razor, with then against the grain. It was probably the final passes that did it desu it never actually feels smooth till that point and then you're taking skin off the bumps.

>>17805691
Are you pressing down hard? You're not supposed to.

>>17831110
>then against
don't do that
shave only with the grain and see the results; if it's fine after a few shaves, then go with and across the grain and test again a few times
only then, try against the grain; but I simply wouldn't recommend it unless you got leather instead of skin since neck area is very sensitive and it got and soft

>>17830886
you mean with the guard?

>>17809026
I bought one of these. Biggest scam ever. Just a close buzz.

>>17831110
the reason I asked about the soap is because different brands don't provide the same level of glide, other anon is right about single pass on the neck though.

>>17828308

this shit. plus it's half the price of the other french-air faggots.

>>17831615
>>17830298
Looking at the pic again, the guard on my older Philips is different starting at 3 mm/ 1/8". Without the guard it's a bit short the first day, but just right thereafter for few days before it gets the look of a beard.

>>17804537
>buy a decent razor (don't get the cheap chinese ones for like 10 bucks)
Bullshit, the blades themselves are more important. The razors from china are fine, not sure if they still cost 10 bucks nowadays though, bought two of them many years ago.

Where the fuck i buy this? There is no where and I feel kinda shame if I ask

>>17832246
What's your location?

>>17832237
Baili and the rest are the actual bottom of the barrel, you're saving money because of their saving on quality control. Buy a vintage Gillette for a little bit more, and you're getting a much better razor from when America actually made its own consumer goods.

>>17829880
I use a shavette

it's nothing

>>17803719
used to cut myself all the time and get irritation, crazy sensitive skin

got a mühle r41 and feather blades, they are both ridiculously aggressive and i get a perfect shave almost effortlessly every single time, slight irritation if i try to go 100% smooth against the grain but i dont bother with that usually

>>17828308
Truefitt and Hill should have an unscented soap, if you dont mind a mild smell proraso green works for me better than the white one