/fa/ - Fashion

my forever summer chonker

F-91W has a very bad backli-ACK!!!!!!!!!!

>First
Remember, don't make yourself a target of the goat fuckers. Don't wear a women's watch.

>>17781776
F-105 is better.

>>17781777
36mm is the white man's watch size, shitskin.

I hate negative LCDs on digital-only Casios, bu this one in particular is pretty nice. It doesn't ruin the look of the dial, but it's still there if you need it.

which way, white man?

>>17781784
bottom right

>>17781784
bottom left, metal bracelets are like chains for the slaves

>>17781780
>36mm is the white man's watch size, shitskin.
Then you shouldn't have to worry either way, Dontari'us.

>>17781776
I never had issues with it. All those youtubes make it seem worse than it really is.

>>17781786
love sinn watches
simple as
>>17781787
not talking about the bracelet/straps bit with or without numbers and red second or white second

>>17781771
Has anyone actually bought the sideral? Decent specs but I'm not dropping a grand on a watch that looks like a Seiko

San Martin

>>17781801
Is it even available yet?

>>17781781
The titanium versions have a positive display.

>>17781809
yeah, saw it irl at my local AD, they got extra straps too, yellow dial with black strap looks best imo

>>17781771
I was thinking left is nice and summery but its so SMOL in person even the 40 just looks tiny

>>17781834
the 35 looks more coherent design wise

>>17781771
I'm gonna buy this Baitling Chronograph and theres nothing you can do to stop me.


you're opinion is still apreciated tho...

no seriously, I need some approval.

>>17781834
it's a great looking watch but it compliments a wrist on the smaller side for sure

>>17781818
Yes, and that's why they look worse.

>>17781849
Mate, if you want to wear overpriced shitters, go for it.

>>17781849
way too busy for my taste but u do u

>>17781849
Hope you have a large wrist, because that’s a chunky boy.

>>17781075
It's small, thin, modern enough to not worry about wr and roughing it up a bit and it's unassuming. Most people won't see it and watchfags will not want to talk to you because they'll think you're pathetic, so perfect. I have a 90's 34mm tudor at the watchmaker right now and I will ask him to replace the crystal for one without a loupe if he has something that fits. For me the Kang is the cleanest looking modern rolex.
Picrel is at the watchmaker

>>17781849
looks like a very boomer watch

>>17781771
Do they have anything else going for them besides the history to merit the price tag?

>>17781895
No.

Only old ingenieurs and mark XII are worth anything.

Good morning sirs

>>17781818
>>17781851
It's a shame that the LCD stands out so much on both of the titanium versions. Also, white dial is unreadable.
Steel M170D looks the best with that hidden display and red accent on the seconds hand.

>>17781921

>>17781834
They're both shit. If you had an actual comparison like a 36 vs 41 DJ, then 36 wins every time. Nouveau riche and rappers prefer big ones because they want attention. Its bling to them. My first thought when someone has a large luxury watch is that it's fake.

>>17781784
556 A RS on the H-Link
t. Owner of an 856 UTC and a EuroFleiger III

>>17781927
my retarded ex-boss kept showing off his djs to me not knowing that I have access to his fb account for work reasons and know he was regularly buying $350 reps

>>17781931
Kek

>>17781781
Absolute beaut! Gotta get it a proper strap though.

>>17781931
so were the reps good?

>>17781931
>>17781938
You mean FAKES

>his watch doesn't look like a penis in a chastity cage
NGMI

>>17781936
https://www.flickr.com/photos/watchelse/albums/72157659526904819

>>17781952

Is there any Casio like the A158 but with a steel case instead of plastic?

gm sirs just got this new tropic strap

>>17781965
Nice watch. Looks like you should wear it one hole looser

>>17781956
A1000

Good morning afficionados.

>>17781968
Long Jeans has been making some cool pieces lately

>>17781968
morn sabretooth

>>17781967

>>17781956
>>17781967
>>17781984
A1100

Waifu acquired

>>17781771
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>17781988
Bruh

Pic related or the black version?

>>17781988
Its kino

TND

>>17781988
What the fuck???
bwahahhahahahhahhahahahahhahah

>>17781991
I just bought the black version and I'm happy with it.

If you wear a watch with a leather strap or nato lower your tone when talking to me

Rolex bros we’re falling

>>17781986

>>17781988
I want one now

>>17781998
shut up braceletfag

>>17781988
tfw everyone aspires to be haute casiology

When I first started watch collecting I told myself I would never buy a dive watch. I'm not a diver, I don't dive, I don't need or use a dive bezel. It's unnecessary larping bulk added to a watch. Yet 90% of my watches are divers.

How can we explain the inevitability of dive watches?

>>17781998
Ugh, the poors are starting to get a little stiff-necked again.

>>17782021
They are safe bets and versatile easy to service legible at a glance and not as flashy like a chronograph.

>>17781988
It would be kino if Casio did this.

>>17782021
Same but now i just think theyre neat

>>17781997
I think I'll get that one too.

>>17781988
You're trying to tell me this is not shopped?

>>17781988
That'll be 370 dollars + tip

>>17782030
why post the broke version?

>>17782050
BWAAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
OHHHHNONONOONONONOONONONON
CASIO CHADS STAY WINNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>17781823
I've done this with the red (grey ring) version but it looks OK on the yellow too, a bit too flashy for me though

>>17781776
>>17781791
I prefer its warm glow compared with the electroluminescent blast in your face in the dark fucking up your circadian rhythm and nightvision in one burst

>>17782064
You actually bought it?

>>17782057
Huh?

>>17782073
Very wise words.

>>17781988
>>17782050
The screen looks so cheap, like in those watches you got in the washing powder.

>>17781988
>how do we ripoff our buyers more?
>let's sell them a digital worth 10$ from a Chinese factory
>they might not buy it
>slap in the PRX logo and branding
>brilliant!

>>17782075
yeah, it's a nice daily for the summer
the regatta timer look & the carbon case did the trick for me

I don't shower very hot. Is it dumb to shower with my steel bracelet watch on? Does the metal expand under heat or something and gets looser?

>>17781784
>overpriced shitters
No thanks, I prefer AFFORDABLE LUXURY.

>>17782142
it's not the metal you should be worried about it's the rubber gaskets and condensation/moisture

your shampoo and soap could be resulting in gasket wear while the temperature difference could form moisture inside

Anyone ever hydromod a watch?

>>17782142
No, that shouldn't be an issue.

>>17781802
Does it keep good time?

>>17782142
Yes, it's very dumb. Soapy water is not normal water, the rubber gaskets will corrode faster and water will leak into the mechanism.

>>17781988
looks like the old digital speedmaster from the 70's or 80's.

>>17782158
kek based watch

Reminder if your watch is larger than 39mm you are ghetto noveau rich poseur

Great men in the 1920-1950 who fought wars and started industries wore small watches

nobody cares, shut the fuck up

>>17782194
>t. Has never fought in a war or founded an industry.
At least you’ve got a tiny watch though.

>>17782194
Kay sissy wrists

>>17782200
The culture and aesthetics I am honoring would be a great traditionalist one of the past.

While you're just trying to be the niggest

>>17782205
>meant to be worn over a thick jacket and pilot gear not directly on your wrist

You show your lack of knowledge and ignorance cur

>>17782206
How many fedoras do you own? Be honest, now.

>>17782209
bout tree fiddy

I always wanted a HYT. I know they’re tackie but I love everything about them

>>17782142
Do your mom clean your shower? I’m guessing so since you’ve never scrubbed soap scum from your bath’s cracks and crevices. Imagine this gunk building up in your watch!
DISGUSTING

luv me long jeans watches

Someone shill me a 3 watch roll with pillows that won’t stretch out my watch bracelets/straps

>>17782228
Who can even service them now that they went down the drain?
That's the problem with that extra special snowflaek shit with all those ultra expensive custom micro glass tubes and that weird pump movement.
The electromechanical backlight thing was a neat idea but imagine trying to get that fixed in a decade.

looking for a neat looking white silver quartz watch. chronograph feature would be a plus but not needed. Dont wanna spend much more than 500

>>17782281
Casio f91w

>>17782103
this, it looks like a happy meal LCD module

>>17782283
I think they got bought out by someone recently

>>17782050
more expensive than the quartz analog kek mountain jews have the best sense of humor

>>17781775
Deepsea is unironically the Rolex with the most soul because it's the most honest reflection of what people actually want from a Rolex, it's a big, heavy, blingy watch with utterly useless "improvements" over a Submariner that exist solely because
>A. they could do it
>B. it justifies what you actually want, which is a watch that demands attention to your wrist and thereby also letting everyone know you have a Rolex
People LOVE to delude themselves that Rolexes are sensible, utilitarian tool watches when if that's really what you wanted, you could spend far less and buy a Seiko without needing to let the store clerk in the mall fuck your wife to get on a waiting list. You spend thousands of dollars and raise your AD's bastard child JUST to join the club and nothing does a better job of fucking screaming at any pass-byers that you're in the club than the Deepsea.

It's unironically the one I'd buy if I could, it's almost a self-parody by Rolex and in that way it manages to be bizarrely unpretentious, it's unashamedly gauche yet cheeky for giving you what deep down you know you really want.

>>17782286
Perfect thanks anon

>>17782194
People have different sizes wrists vary, arguing about this is like arguing about being retarded

>>17781859
Fucking nice

>>17782262
I took over cleaning our shower when my mom got sick and now she's gone

>>17782194
The wristlets are starting to get a little sore.

>>17781771
>mu history
>muh heritage
Cope

>>17782367
My sincere condolences, man.
Unironically, I hug you.

>>17782377
thanks anon

>order custom strap like pic related for my shitgani design "homage" from some faggot on local forum
>he makes straps for richfags, panerais, omegas, cartiers, etc from emu leg skin or whatever
>it arrives, I dont inspect it that much because I was in a hurry
>a few days later put it on and wear it
>leather has scratches, holes for threads arent symetrical, shoddy overall job
>spend 20 mins writing a boomer post complaining about faggot on forum
god I wanted to support local buisiness, could have gotten it on aliexpress for 1/4th the price....

>>17782285

https://www.junghans.de/en/collection/watches/?p=1&o=5&n=12&f=387%7C375%7C329%7C435%7C434

>>17782266
Whats this referring to? I dont who the guy in the pic is

>>17781771
I seriously hope you guys don't but Vostok watches.

>>17781988
Holly shit if that real it shows why Tissots are getting worse, what a garbage looking watch.

>>17782158
"If you get it wet, you can just buy another" = Scammetti CEO.

Kek.

>>17781991
I like that one better

>>17782464
Who buts vostok?

>>17781986
amazing image what do we think her timepiece is

Not bad.

>>17782464
I watch combat footage from the war every day and not even Russian soldiers wear those shitters. I see a lot of Tissot's, Citizens and random Chinese shitters from the Russian side.

On the Ukrainian side I see tons of Mudmasters/Casio's and Garmin watches.

>>17782513
they wear what they have, it's not like they get issued anything

>>17782498
That's a Omega Seamaster MOP

>>17782499
the dial is cool but that strap though....

>>17782194

Does anyone have the Brad Pitt watch comparison chart? I want to show it to my girlfriend.

>>17782164
Yes,averaging +3spd , couldn't be happier with my new watch.

My collection guys.

>looks good
>unlike the other watches from the same collection, not cosc certified
Fucking why

>>17781931
lmfao thats 90% of people showing off their "swiss" watches.

>>17781927
I agree, I looked at these a few days ago. Holly cow if you going to spend that little money either go full retard and get a Swatch or buy a decent Jap watch. Failing that buy something not shit.

>>17782537
Had to unearth it from an old phone, but here it is.

>>17781917
I like it

>>17781849
Hey, even swiss lads say braitling watches are chink watches.

>>17782561
>san martin
>pagani
LMAO

>>17781849
>Breitling Chronograph
>not a Navitimer
oh no what is you doing

>>17782513
You see this one yet?

https://youtu.be/eji0u88nIoc?feature=shared

>>17781968
i want to like it but i can't

>>17782567
A grand total of $49 on good stuffs. For a few extra, he'll chuck in a clear caseback

>>17782550
I’d ask but I don’t wanna know

>>17782464
just bought another one thanks for reminding me anon

>>17782561
G Shock WW2 lmfao.

>>17781968
Nice watch, that dial looks crisp as fuck.

>>17781968
I can’t get over the 5 stars. Makes it look so cheesy

>>17782162
Yes

>>17781984
This is advertised as a woman’s watch lol. Kinda want to buy it anyway

10$ thrift find
1999 SQ baybee
R8 my find

>>17781968
YELP review watch.

WTF! I never see Zenith getting slagged on these threads. It's not fair for the other brands!


PLEASE INSULT ZENITH NOW!

>>17782682
>insult zenith
mexican rolex cope

>>17782682
to this day, Zenith has never made an appealing dial. they're so garbage tier that it's generally not even worth talking shit about. it's like talking shit about pizza hut.

>>17782464
In that vein you should stop supporting america and the rest of europe for all the wars they ever done

american redit tier virtue signalling

>>17782323
Your watch can be too big

The only time it can be too small is if you can't read it anymore

>>17782370
/wt/ has always been tasteful and midsize pilled

you big watch advocates are obvious newfags/trolls

>>17782682
Christ, its like they took the worst elements of a budget Citizen smushed it with the ugliest Orient you've ever seen and called it a watch.
Nowonder people call these things ugly.

>probably cheapest brand in the thread
>mogs everyone else

>>17782710
>posts literal rolex cope
bruh

>>17782561
Gay Sexko LMAOOOO

>>17782299
real as fuck to be honest

>>17781771
Any recommendations for a ~2k watch? Specifically womens

>>17782682
they make great tvs

>>17782731
dulce vita

>>17782702
Nigga I've been here since before the prices hikes, before covid even.
I just find funny how the wristlets suffer when their watches are called women's watches. Plus, the anon making the arab memes is hilarious.

>>17782710
imagine thinking a cope watch could ever mog anything lmao.

>>17781988
What great timing. I just got into digital watches and I find digital watches with a round case especially interesting since they have this retro-futuristic look. I was thinking about this Casio but I wanted something more substantial than the resin case and acrylic glass.

This looks good but my first issue is that the display looks so stretched. Also is there really no backlight?

>>17782050
Seems actually fair considering how much Casio charges for their all metal G-Shocks.

>>17782735
Nah you're both cringe and newfag. Probably bought some maxicase joke and now coping because the trend is smaller watches.

>>17782753
>Nooooo he must be a newfag
Stop delusioning yourself, you faggot. I wear a 39mm case and it suits me well. Seems like you're just too insecure. You may actually be a woman. LMAO

>Rolex acquired Bucherer
What happens now? What happens to Tudor?

>>17782771
You still can't buy one.

>thick bezel
gay
>digital display
gay
>band is anything but leather or nylon
gay
>casio
gay

>>17782748
>>17781988
COPE
O
P
E

>>17782773
Buy what? A Rolex or a Tudor?
I am happy with my IWC I've worn daily for over a year

>>17782779
this but my eco drive

>>17782775
the novelty of it is cool but not $3000+ cool

>>17782783
there's nothing cool about that piece of shit

>>17782697
All American wars have been just, especially the ones that weren’t.

>>17782785
you don't think a company that traditionally made mechanical watches making a digital watch with an awkward design is interesting? it looks like a prop they would have made for a futuristic movie back in the day

>>17782791
no, it sounds like they half-assed a model they had no business making knowing that schmucks like you would eat it up because their logo is on it

>>17782550
I love that Breitling

>>17782748
>Also is there really no backlight?
It has a backlight. They should have gotten a better LCD design. It ruins the watch.

>>17782615
It rated its self 5 stars haha.

>>17782194
Based.

>>17782404
dadoh 50 lv za zglobqvane na gotovi chasti
sichko local e scam

>>17782475
dumb westoids

>>17782475
I'm going to now because the country I grew up in didn't support me or trump so I will gladly support the economies of geopolitical enemies. Hopefully the payment goes directly to Russians violating trading restrictions. I support Russia and I support China. I do not support the US. And my reasoning is simple. They should have been subsidizing productive young men if they wanted unwavering support. Instead I've been taxed to the grave while other people have EZ lives despite being less intelligent than me. If they nuked us tomorrow, I would be happy.

I see the most expensive watch on their website is $749. I will buy that one right now.

>>17782194

>>17782844
Big watch = nigfer rich

>>17782367
Sorry man, look if your watch has more than 100m WR and you dry it, it might be ok. I don't typically bring anything in the shower I'm not willing to destroy aside from perhaps myself and a bar of soap lol.

>>17782697
Pretty much.

>>17782845
Small watch = wristlet poor?

Shout out to the poorfag guide. I like this watch.

>>17782194

>>17782849
Ultra expensive watches are 36mm ones from PF to Rolex platinum day dates. You're like the fake rich people like Tom Cruise in eyes wide shut. Some doctor who thinks he's tough shit throwing $100 bills around. Gets put in his place by REAL rich people.

>>17782849
The more money you have, the more you want to conceal your wealth. As the old saying goes, those who know, don't say, and those who say, don't know.

>>17782851
Top kek.

>>17782852
As a matter of godwill to everyone on the thread.
This guy gets it.
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>>17782547
>28800
It has a sellita?

>>17782852
>Ultra expensive watches are 36mm
>44mm

>>17782851

>>17782194
I shan't be associated with anything worn by afro-americans. Thank you for this driveby shitpost so I may stay abreast of what timepieces the afro-americans are wearing and so avoid doing the same

>>17782853
so the richer you are the bigger your watch

>>17782765
It appears my opinions have resulted in your hurt feelings.

>been here before covid
>2020 newfag

lel even trumper r/donald tourists are older than you

>>17782926
entrepreneurs
>apple watch
>smart watch
>small tasteful watches from good houses
>casios and timex

wantrepreneurs
>everything else
>luxury that rappers put in their songs (dom perignon, rolex, AP, hublot, etc)
>big watch for wrist presence nonsense
>need to flex like a tiktok low iq plebian

simple as

>>17782367
It never gets easy but it gets easier bro, keep on trucking

>>17782931
as much as I like anything f91 it isn't really comfortable to wear

>>17781796
Beautiful watch but I hate UTC complications. Why the fuck would I want to know the time in, and be reminded of, ingerland

guys
i keep thinking about the $4k gshock
stop me from doing something stupid

>>17782959
go for it if you can afford it

>>17782561
>San Martin

a quick look on youtube shows seiko is not wrong for replacing skx with 5 street - a single video how to clean your dive watch from salt water - no one uses dive watches to dive or there would have been more videos how to clean them

>>17782864
Yes,paid for a Sellita movement, although I didn't check it by opening the caseback,long ago some people here said I could expect a Sellita clone and not a real Sellita movement. If some day I need to repair it then I will open and check it, I could slap areal sellita if needed because I really like the watch and so far I think I haven't seen a similar watch with the dimensions I like:
Diver
36-37mm
46mm lug to lug or less
Drilled lugs
20mm strap size
Workhorse movement but reliable or inhouse

The closes watches I have seen are the black bay54 and longines legend diver 36 (this one has 19mm bracelet size). Who knows if I end buying the 54 or even the slightly bigger 58, I'm expecting a son and I was wondering about buying a nice watch if its aboy and giving it to him once he is and adult and ready to start his family.
Meanwhile I bought this chinkwatch,it is and homage,yes,but as I said,the dimensions are just good and improved because the Seiko originals are underwhelming in that aspect,around 5000€ for the most original 62reissue and still 2mm bigger, other reissues are cheaper but bloated in size with design changes, this homage is respecting the original 62mas size.

>>17783038
shouldn't worry so much about lug width, if the watch comes with a bracelet when you buy it. Buying several odd width natos isn't really a problem, and what else realistically would you put your diver on if not bracelet or nato? do you have a pile of 20mm rubber straps?

Is this cool or is it gimmicky?

The snowflakes turns on itself, it would remind me to not be a snoflake.

>>17783057
It looks ridiculous.

>>17783038
>I'm expecting a son
>if its a boy
wut.

>>17783057
It's retarded
What good is a watch that you have to keep frozen?

>>17783052
Yes, I know that is not really a problem, maybe it is just autism about 1mm diference.I would put leather, I always liked leather for watches, even if leather on diver is some kind of controversial, but fine during colder weather.

>>17783063
English is not my first language, so for some reason I typed boy instead of baby.

>>17783080
Wtf is that?

>>17783103
A Rolex Texano, one of the many Rolexes, like the King Midas or OysterQuartz that i would pick over the Submariner.

>>17783086
Then go back to your own fucking country.

>>17782464
How can you not after watching this factory tour full of S-O-V-L?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhW9ZER5eQs
(there toggled en subs)
Look at the decaying infrastructure, the "clean room" that's about as clean as my fucking room, the handyman guy that fixes all and keeps the archaic soviet machinery running because it can't be replaced. The proto-babushka's and their impractically long painted fingernails as if it were still the 80's.
The real surprise is the in-house mainspring production. There's maybe 10 companies in the world that actually make this most vital of all horological components.

>>17783112
hell no bitch. just looked this shit up and it's only 39mm and that's probably a little cap cause needs exagorate.. 2021 onward submariner is 41mm. minimum watch size. joke if yall wearing anything smaller. I buy a wafch so people watch out. not to tell fuckin time. you want what id pick, pick both them subbies over that grandpa bracelet. and if I could pick watever id get me a richie miller 49mm.#goals

>>17782837
кaк paзбpa чe cъм бългapин, cлeдиш ли мe?

>>17783120
Good to see other CHAD in this place.

>>17783115
>tfw your country is so nice you don't have to migrate

>>17782899
>afro-americans
just call them niggers its much easier

Are there any decent Swiss automatic watches under 500 EUR, and under 1000 EUR?

I want a luxury watch thats under the radar and considering these three. Which one do I get? Should I just shill out and go for a Rolex Explorer I instead?

>>17783120
>I buy a watch so people watch out
lol

>>17783164
these are hardly under the radar
I'd go with the longines non gmt zulu at 37mm or whatever the smaller diameter one was, since the date integrates the nicest on that one, looks real good

>>17783164
>Should I just shill out and go for a Rolex Explorer I instead?
probably
you will always crave the real thing

>>17781859
I might buy a custom one that says "Fuck Google" on the dial. Or "Fuck big tech".

>>17782266
Not sure what the point of that is. Most Longlines watches are good value for what you get.

>>17781771
is it just me or is the poorfag guide link broken?

>>17782370
Almost as sore as your anus. I'll loan you my massive black dong, minus the watches.

>>17781988
Oh hell no, its real. Look on a search engine, use that commie abortion google if you have to.

Yikes. I'd kill myself before wearing that.

>>17781859
how about this M79680-0004

What's the point of "workhorse" mechanical movements? What are you actually getting over a quartz movement other than a bigger price tag?

Hi fellow /p/edos, which one is better Samsung Galaxy Watch6 or Watch6 Classic? Is the bezel based or based cringe?

Accurist came out with an automatic Genta homage for half the price of the PRX with sapphire crystal and 100m water resistance and nobody is aware.

This might be the best value-for-money watch in the under $500 segment on the market right now.

>>17783163
you mean actually Swiss and not """swiss made""?
no

>>17783191
>What are you actually getting over a quartz movement
rotor goes brrrrr

>>17783199
It looks better too imho.

>>17783164
LMFAO those are not luxury loser if they are to you fix your life and go home.

>>17783200
Can you prove that Tissot are not ackshually Swiss Made? The Swatch Group are a full integrated organisation with their own foundry and shit, it wouldn't really make sense to then order all their parts from China.

>>17783191
>muh mechanical movment with soul
>muh mass produced shitty chinkmade mechanical "soul" covered in rat dust and hairs and is +/-40/hr no watchmaker will ever bother to service so it's effectively the same as a disposable modern quartz module

>>17783199
>Chinese "homage"
>best anything
???

>>17783202
The biggest selling point for me is that it's an integrated bracelet design without the bracelet actually being integrated. You can put any regular strap on it too.

I don't get how you can have such a watch in your lineup and not market the shit out of it everywhere. Accurist really fucked up in their marketing department, if they have one.

>>17783200
What's the difference

>>17783204
>The Swatch Group are a full integrated organisation
wake up anon, swatch have factories in china: that's part of their "full integration"
do you really think you're getting a shitty economy tier certina actually made in switzerland on the wages in that country? have you ever been there? it's expensive as fuck to even breathe there
if omega has shit made in china and SEA, what chance does tissot, near the very bottom of the swatch ladder, have?

>>17783206
The PRX is literally made of plastic in a China sweatshop with no quality control and it sells like hot cakes despite being double the price and was regarded one of the best watches under $1000.

>>17783209
Well in order for a watch to be considered 'swiss made' by law 60% of the VALUE of the watch must come from Switzerland. In practice that means that the whole watch can be made in China and assembled in Switzerland, and because the value of the work is high there it would constitute more than 60% of the value of the watch, thus making it 'swiss made'.

>>17783209
In one case you're being ripped off by the mountainjew for mass made jewelry but you're getting what you paid for.
In the other case you're overpaying for something that cost them peanuts to make and they're lying about its providence so you're not getting what you paid for, a "swiss" timepiece.

>>17783217
That's the old iteration of the law I think. The update seems "better" but is the same bullshit legalese riddled with loopholes that was most likely drafted by Swatch Group lawyers in the first place for the legislature to rubber stamp.
For example the "swiss value" thing can be exempt in cases where the value is made in a country "friendly to switzerland". This includes places like Germany, France and Hong fucking Kong, which is merely a gateway to China because nothing's actually produced in HK anymore.
Never believe their lies.
Simply keep in mind whenever you look at some lower tier "Swiss" stuff, especially Swatch group stuff, that a non-zero amount of it was made in the land of cheap corner cutting and man-eating lathes and that the savings were not passed onto you.
Then ask whether or not you still want to pay the price for this "swiss" watch at what they're asking. If you do, good for you. The End.

Thoughts fellow autists?

>>17783217
>produce for 4$ per watch in China
>ship to Switzerland
>have random guy look at it for 1 minute and call it "quality control"
>pay random guy 360$ an hour to look... I mean to quality control 480 watches a day
>60% of all costs now come from Switzerland
>Swiss made
That's 5000$ please (plus tip).

>>17783226
Looks like the retarded cousin of Gerald Genta designed it.

>>17783226
That's a nope for me, if you're after this kind of look i'd suggest vintage quartz Credor.

>>17783228
The old law was more nuanced than that, and with a massive org like Swatch it made things easier.
>have 99% of the watch made in china
>ships parts to switzerland
>attach rotor made in switzerland for 20cents
>claim the rotor itself cost $600 to make because it's all your internal accounting anyway
bam swiss watch made.
New law is a little different, but still full of crap.

>>17783217
That 60% doesn't include labour costs afaik

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>>17783229
Is that good

>>17783226
cringe

>>17783164
>Tudor
At that point just buy the Rolex. I still don't see why Tudor even exists.

>>17783234
It even includes the time you spent "researching and developing."

>>17783207
>Accurist really fucked up in their marketing department, if they have one.
This brand is not known beyond british boomers so it's not that hard to understand.
>>17783230
How was the bracelet sizing? Can it even be resized? I've seen some like this band on credors and the listed length seems pretty short, so I've not risked it. Did you just order one where the stated length was enough for you? Or did you just order and resize that shit yourself?

>>17783240
To sell homages of older Rolex models. Why should the Chinese make all the money from producing vintage Rolex homages?

Name one (1) watch.

>>17783250
Casio Duro

>>17783243
Where else should the R&D be done?

>>17783253
guangzhou backrooms

>>17783246
That's not my watch, i just grabbed a random pic from ebay. I'm sure there is a sizing mechanism of some sort in the clasp.

>>17783234
afaik 'value of the watch' means exactly that. I admit i haven't seen the actual law itself, but last i know it was 'value of the watch'. I'm sure somewhere in the fine print there is an even finer print that defines all these things.

i really like this watch

Ok how is this?

>>17783268
SOVL

>>17783265
Nah it's specifically 60% of the manufacturing costs although apparently not including the cost of assembly, so it's likely not as bad as anons are suggesting that final assembly and inspection are making up the entirety of that 60%

Tbqh it's kind of silly, if this is a thing that watch manufacturers want to matter, that their watches are "Swiss made", then just make them in Switzerland entirely, or don't and just call them Swiss designed or something. Like the Citroën 2CV was made numerous different nations but whether a 2CV was made in France or in Chile, you'd still say it's a French car, it's only really the Swiss that have autistically backed themselves into a corner on this and then refused to actually legislate it properly.

>>17783191
>hat's the point of "workhorse" mechanical movements?
to have an excuse for having 50 dollar finishing on a 10.000 dollar watch

>>17783270
>SELF-WINE
kek alcoholics' choice

>>17783217
>>17783225
>>17783228
>>17783234
>>17783243
>>17783265
I don't disbelieve you, but - source?

>>17783290
maybe its genuinely over for me.
Trying to look like a young Paul Newman

>>17783283
"Swiss Made" is the major selling point of their industry as it implies a long lineage of horological excellence, never mind the actual provenance of that label and what it actually meant for them nor all the shitters they shat out before the seiko quartz nuke BTFO'd them so hard they had to go full-jewelry in order to even exist.
They will never clarify nor amend this.
When you think of watches, you think of "Swiss Time", it's like the French and their wines and champagnes; there might be some new world stuff that shits all over it but the consumer will always assume that the french one is better because that's what they've always been told even when presented with both products in a blind-label taste test and they prefer the new world stuff initially before being shown the labels.

>>17783291
read through
>>17783233
>>17783236

Will Tissot ever be stopped?

effay?
I'm mostly into vintage.

>>17783298
not enough text on the dial. how am i supposed to know if this resists water or whether it has an alarm
2/10

>>17783301
im convinced you retards need your watches looking like Ubisoft HUDs

>>17783293
I suppose that's true, if I were to be pedantic I'd say it is more important that "French" wines are made in France since the grapes and resulting wine are heavily influenced by the climate they're grown in and that's hard to find an exact match for Bordeaux outside of Bordeaux, but a 2CV is "French" because it was designed and engineered by the French, who actually stamps the body panels and welds them together is kind of irrelevant provided it's being done to a French standard which was not difficult to achieve.

>>17783301
>not enough text on the dial
t. Rolex

>>17783298
Using the exact same case as the regular PRX was lazy, they could have used the same design language to create a digital watch but that looks shit because it makes no sense to have all that space around where a dial should have been.

>>17783305
Congratulations, I have OFFICIALLY CERTIFIED this post as based.

>>17783283
>then just make them in Switzerland entirely
I think it's because it's impossible to 'make' everything there. Does the ore for the iron, chromium, molybdenum, copper and nickel for the stainless steel have to be from Switzerland? Stuff like that...

>>17783311
Rolex has their own steel foundry, I think thats deep enough in the supply chain to claim made in Switzerland

>>17783303
>noooooo not the dial thats where the heckin engraving of this mystical lake at 21:35:30 on a late june evening with mild temperatures go you can't just put useful information there

>>17783311
I think "made" only implies it has been manufactured in Switzerland, the raw materials aren't manufactured, they're sourced.

I'm still of the opinion these can be considered "Swiss Watches" even if it's only the R&D, design and engineering, that occurs in Switzerland itself because that's how it works for most manufacturered goods. Like the iPhone is proudly "Designed in California, Made in China" but people would still say the iPhone is an American smartphone.

So from what price do you actually get real swiss watches?

>>17783312
Is the foundry actually in Switzerland?

>>17783298
They'll soon be like Tudor with 2 watches in their catalogue and the rest will just be variations of it.

>>17783305
>>17783308

>>17783298
I guess my requests for a premium digital watch have been heard. Shame it's so ugly, but hey, we'll get there eventually.

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>>17783316
Honestly, who knows? All meming aside those Chinese brands like San Martin and Cronos are suspiciously good at making watch cases and shit and it's unlikely they (or rather the factory they get their cases made) got the tooling, investment and expertise from selling watches to poorfags on AliExpress. Clearly there has been some outside help building a factory capable of manufacturing watches to the standard of what eventually gets sold for thousands of dollars.

are all watches cope? I don't even think my omega planet ocean is special anymore

>>17783329
never was

>>17783324
I mean if that means Rolex actually is unironically 100% Swiss made then that's a pretty good reason for their premium over Omega and others.

>>17783345
>>17783345
>>17783345
NEW

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>>17783325
ye all those cheap meme brands are side hustle