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The fragrance group 101 chart.

The fragrance flowchart for beginners.

>>17772221
>>17772226
Fantastic as always.

Has anyone sampled Avestan? I might be in London soon and wanted to pick some up...

>>17772239
There are at least two anons, to my knowledge. I will certainly test it if I ever go to London again, which I might, since it was great experience last time (way better than Paris). I can't say if they still regularly post.

niche equivalent to this?

I'm the guy that said that new York intense had iris.

Well, I sprayed directly from my bottle instead of the sample, and now I cannot detect the iris at all and it's way more citrusy , green and sparkly. So I'm assuming my sample is badly labeled or fucked up in some other way. I'll see how it develops but so far , one hour in almost, no iris.

They have some resemblance in the base tho, do Nicolai perfumes share some base ala tauer or Bianchi?

I checked and Nicolai has a new release that has iris, how likely it is that they labeled wrong an official sample?

>>17772242
I wish I had be perfume pilled during my years on the north London dinner party circuit, but a man can't be all things at all times.

Speaking of, what's the fragrance we all all looking forward to wearing most as the weather starts turning. For me it's Jaipur Homme, the true spicebomb if you ask me.

I'm looking for a fragrance that could pull positive attention from a normal passerby but would make some turboautists scream "crude" or "masstige." Any recs?

>>17772249
and what is the original?

>>17772281
40 knots

Every fucking time when i'm with my Galadriel in public. Fucking annoying, i guess it's they generic blues that make them seethe or my white girl.

>>17772239
yeah i've got 2 bottles. anything you want to know?
i'm still debating if it should be added to fragrance websites or not
>>17772254
>what's the fragrance we all all looking forward to wearing most as the weather starts turning
probably ted lapidus oud noir, quite underrated and one of the few fragrances i wouldn't wear in the summer. i don't care for seasons most of the time
>>17772281
eros. my normie friend told me how incredible it is and i tried to keep a straight facs t. turboautist
>>17772300
kek, i'll take that as a sign: SOTD cool water

>>17772314
>i'm still debating if it should be added to fragrance websites or not
Why shouldn't it

>>17772330
its cool to have a secret club

>>17772314
>2 bottles
Ok so first of all thanks, because now I have to buy at least 3. Also, is it wearable or more of a scent to appreciate in contemplation?

>>17772300
Your taste in perfume leaves as much to be desired as your cowardly, no honor, low class behaviour. Especially the tricks you pulled in that last thread. You ought to be ashamed.

>>17772314
>SOTD cool water
Today it's Carven L'Eau Intense, but GIT or CW are my signature.
>>17772343
CW is a masterpiece, quite unique because not everyone wears it. Dude, rentfree, never posted in the last general, was busy on /gif/.

>>17772337
you should buy 10 to keep the store going
its certainly a bit out there. it's quite wearable imo, although i find few things unwearable. from memory i'm getting rice, clay and nutmeg. somehow it's a humble scent, it doesn't last very long either, around 3-5h i'd say.

>>17772163
I prefer the Parfum. I respect the original, but I don't enjoy it

>>17772249
>>17772282
narcisso bleu noir. Its like a clean musky version of declaration

Damn, got into this whole Areej le dore drama because of a post in previous thread and watched russian Adams last video on YouTube and how the fuck do people fall for the scams of this fucking retard? He spends the whole video praising his own compositions, calling them wonderful or special or unique, saying that he is also a "areej le dore" collector and that every composition is unique because he uses "natural ingredients" . The whole video is him just praising himself and creating fomo so fucking retards buys his shit as if they are the second coming of Christ.

The guy is a total fraud

>>17772460
>He spends the whole video praising his own compositions
Yes
>calling them wonderful or special or unique
Yes
>saying that he is also a "areej le dore" collector
Yes
>and that every composition is unique because he uses "natural ingredients"
Yes
>The whole video is him just praising himself
Yes
>creating fomo
Yes
>The guy is a total fraud
I actually like some of his scents

>>17772484
Give a rundown on your favorites. Are you selling some to make up for the costs?

>>17772484
Don't tell me you bought that shit , or at least tell me you did it to resell it

>>17772487
> Give a rundown on your favorites.
ALD or in general? Agar de Noir is great. Siberian Musk is good but I frankly can recommend Prin’s Mriga or Mongolian Mriga if you want any forest deer musk of that type and don’t play any silly hunting down games. Santal Galore is funny. His ouds are good. Heard good things about Ottoman Empire but never had a chance to smell any version. War and Peace slaps. Overall, I give him B+/A-.
>Are you selling some to make up for the costs
Might move some at some point if I will dislike them but I’m not too pressed about that atm
>>17772495
I did and find the entire drama hilarious. Gonna shit on them in the face of those crybaby diehard fans butthurt that they didn’t get any if I dislike them.

>>17772251
A few share a base and some similiarities, but New York Intense strays a good bit from them. Less than others, but a good bit. It might be possible that they just used a dirty syringe, either by accident or by laziness.

>>17772281
Tobacco Vanille, or Layton if you like it more feminine.

>>17772515
>A few share a base and some similiarities, but New York Intense strays a good bit from them. Less than others, but a good bit. It might be possible that they just used a dirty syringe, either by accident or by laziness
I don't know what's the process for them to create the samples but if they did that they fucked it up quite badly . The petitgrain in the bottle is quite prominent and no trace of iris. I made some friends smell the sample today and they told me "it's smell quite basic, like anything you could buy in a regular store", so fucking weird. I wonder what the fuck is in that sample.

>>17772158
>What notes are actually associated with wealth and more expensive fragrances?
oud, sandalwood, ambergris, orris root, jasmine

>>17772219
I'm lazy and I refuse to read the FAQ on this thread. I just want something that smells good and will get me compliments and make me feel good about myself but in reality I want to kill myself every night once the fragrance wears away.

I prefer clean, fresh, floral scents because I live on a desert. Less than 100 bucks

>>17772541
Grey Flannel.

>>17772534
Thank you for answering great suggestions.

If other people are aware of notes associated with wealth and more expensive fragrances feel free to chyme in.


Also what are the most underrated notes that elevate fragrances?

What notes are overdone and overused?

>>17772541
i'm too lazy to read your post so idk lol

>>17772624
>Also what are the most underrated notes that elevate fragrances?
Personally for me it's guaiac wood and cyclamen. Guaiac just makes everything smell better. Cyclamen is good for getting some florals in a frag without adding too much sweetness, but frustratingly uncommon in mainstream stores and if used, it's often mixed with other sharp whites like tuberose.
>What notes are overdone and overused?
Rose. Always too much of it when it's there, which is 70% of the time in the female section

>>17772624
Go back to plebbit, nigger

My dad wears Eau Sauvage and usually always has. His current bottle is running low and I'm gonna get him another one as a gift. Any alternatives to try or should I just get this?

>>17772672
Just get him that, or if you have money to spend get him a vintage bottle.

>>17772226
garbage as always
>>17772239
retarded as always

>>17772672
if it ain’t broke, why fix it?

anything similar to blue sage and tonka from target?

I need at least 1(one) designer frag in the rotation, something more bold than the niche shitters I usually wear—H24, Terre de Hermes, Bleu de Chanel, Dior Fahrenheit, Dior Homme, Encre Noir? More than 1 is fine.

>>17772729
prada l'homme

>>17772729
what do you mean by more bold?

>>17772735
Direct, loud, focused

>>17772739
As far as those, I'd go encre, DH, Fahrenheit or maybe TDH but I dont know how loud it is. BdC has shit performance and H24 is like a metallic melon smell

>>17772733
Checked. And will check.

Prada l'homme l'eau, I can still smell it if I put my nose on my wrist after more than 30 hours and one shower

Do I have the best nose in the thread or the performance is just that good

>>17772729
the best out of the ones you listed is probably H24 and possibly fahrenheit if you’re okay with the fact that it’s permanently and irreversibly adulterated.

>>17772744
digits confirm
enjoy anon!

>>17772729
>niche shitters I usually wear
Which are?

Wearing this during the summer was a mistake

>>17772858
I wear this

>>17772541
prada l'homme for iris, cartier declaration d'un soir for rose

SOTD Mon Vetiver.
Got the sampler, think I prefer this to Imperial Boys.

>>17772219
should I buy Tom Ford Tuscan Leather without trying it first?

>>17772921
Clean your bathroom first.

>>17772921
yes, buy two full bottles to be on the safe side

>>17772936
no, it will be dirty again in 2 weeks, its not worth the effort

Tried my first niche fragrance set. Absolutely vile 35% concentration, animalic notes, nauseating. I'll stick with my designer edt's tyvm.

>>17772739
>>17772729
Fahrenheit or TdH.
The others I wouldn't call direct or loud, even though they're pretty good. Modern Dior Homme is a bit like a safer, quieter TdH in fact. H24 is just odd but also understated. BdC is more "balanced everyman's scent". Encre Noire is just very minimalistic and doesn't really smell like a designer. Weak performance too.

>>17772921
Definitely, what could go wrong?
Buy one bottle of it and one of the Rasasi clone to compare.

>>17772729
Montblanc Explorer

Any experience with this? Notes on Fragrantica make it seem like a mix between Avignon and Blackpepper, both of which I enjoy and keep in my collection.
SOTD and it was a mistake - Nasomatto Duro

>>17772534
>>17772624
It should be noted that these notes are not associated with wealth, but their raw materials are, as long as they are actually real. Oud is usually some pleb-tier oud replacement that doesn't smell like oud, sandalwood is often just javanol (although there are still many exceptions to this), ambergris is basically never the real stuff besides a few houses still claiming to possess it, orris root is expensive as fuck, jasmine is often stuff like methyl dihydrojasmonate or similar synthetic jasmonate compounds. Technically, real neroli oil is also expensive as fuck, yet you can buy plenty of neroli-scented stuff in 5L jugs, so you know they don't use the real deal.
If you want to smell like money, try chypres. There is no note that is really associated with wealth. Notes are entirely made up, anyway, and often don't tell the real story. If you'd ask me for one fragrance that smelled like money, it would be Chypre Palatin.
There are also no underrated notes that elevate a fragrance, it's about the entire composition. Good fragrances might even use common notes in a more balanced way and simply create greatness that way.
But if I had to select one, oud is certainly the most overdone and overused note right now. They need to stop putting their crayon-scented chemical into everything.

>>17772729
The only one of those I'd personally wear is DH. But honestly, just go to a store and smell things.

>>17772745
Can you please smile, lift your arms and read this sentence out loud?

>>17772858
You're right, because it smells like moldy fruits. Luckily it doesn't last.

>>17772921
You should never blind-buy.

>>17773004
Really underwhelmed by this

>>17772484
>>17772503
Post collection

>>17773057
Old pic. Can’t be added to take a new one but I finished Hiram Green Vetiver, and added Oudh Infini, a new bottle of Bogue MEM, and Haxan since then.

>>17773080
I like your room

>>17772219
>Fragrance General #961
Fucking lmao!!!!! You faggots are still making these? Let me guess, it's the same old retards talking about the same old fragrances.

>>17773084
post collection and i don't mean your collection of exclamation marks you 13 y/o bastard child

>>17772921
average masstige tard be like

>>17773091
I used to run these streets you retarded fag. Thought I'd check in and see if you retards were still talking about the same old fragrances lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>17772921
>>17773080
I love that we have both of these types of people coming here

>>17773057
Now you post collection.

>>17772921
Based easy going Chad
>>17773080
Cringe try hard virgin

>>17772672
Chanel pour Monsieur EDT

Has anyone tried any Santa Maria Novella fragrance? if so, is it worth it?

if i say "sunshine in a bottle" can someone recommend me something

Boys, chypre Siam is fucking amazing, love it so much

It smells like the best part of some bianchis fragrances base in the deep drydown, but damn, the opening is gorgeous

>>17773091
You post your collection. Shouldn’t be allowed to ask for people’s collection if you never post your own.

>>17773142
in no way similar to eau sauvage other than both having citrus openings

>>17773080
What’s in the bee bottles?

once again, they will (You) you but they won't post their collection. they never do.

>>17773161
No because that's faggy clichéd garbage.

>>17772672
Get him this again. Then next year if he didn’t run through it get home something different but similar. I’d recommend Guerlain eau de Guerlain.

>>17772729
fahrenheit for sure. current formulation is nice

any ginger frag recommendations? I had dior homme sport 2008 and fucking loved it. want something similar

>>17772885
Thinking of buying it. It's a different enough scent and off the designer bandwagon of "fresh and sweet" frags. What type of performance and sillage do you get?

>>17773190
well thank you asshole

>>17773196
Best LV by far also

>>17773196
I would like to know some also
I used ysl L’Homme for a while but the tonka base was just too sweet for me
Currently have molecule 01 + ginger which has been scratching the itch within super realistic ginger but projection is low and I can barely smell the iso e either

>>17773012
This post is so good anon. Thank you. This is the type of response I was looking for.

dior homme intense
or
d&g the one

>>17773173
Different fragrances, it's true. Chanel is more of a citrus accord with oakmoss or something that tries to evoke oakmoss. You can also try Armani eau pour homme.

This might sound dumb but can someone recommend me something that just smells like "cologne". I really don't know how to describe it but sometimes you smell someone and its just kinda alcoholy and citrusy.

>>17773297
this could be interpreted in several ways. many fragrances go for something that can be called "generic citrusy cleanliness"
I'm guessing you're talking about modern citrus freshies like versace pour homme or something. but traditional colognes like 4711 could also be described like this. many people say Blue like Dylan Blue frarances also smell generic. probably best if you go to a store and try them out

>>17773297
Turkish Kolonya which you can buy in 5 liter jugs, 4711, Jeanne en Provence Neroli Intense. These are the common "cologne" style colognes. If you "need more", Eau de Guerlain or Acqua di Parma Colonia.

its the same

Areej Le Dore thread on Basenotes is a burning dumpster. One poweruser called ALD out for just recreating the same scent profiles over and over in every collection, and it released levels of angry autism that are unknown even in these threads. Holy fuck, I think I am going to post a video of me putting the new collection to a bin or spraying it in a toilet just to irk them. If someone has an account there, then please troll these retards.
>>17773175
It was Cologne Imperiale.

>>17773297
Johann Maria Farina gegenüber dem Jülichs-Platz Eau de Cologne. It's the original EdC, made even before 4711.

>>17773359
(you)

>>17773295
> Chanel is more of a citrus accord with oakmoss or something that tries to evoke oakmoss.
chypre. the term you’re looking for is chypre.
>>17773359
no one actually believes this, not even you.

>>17773359
similar, but there are some differences. Most prominently, CDNIM lacks the iris in the drydown, giving it a more masculine character.

>>17773291
DHI. The one is okay but doesn't perform and is not as distinctive

>>17773372
(you)

>>17773372
this wasn’t funny the first time around and it’s still not funny now.

>>17773360
Turin is simply stuck in the past. I ran through the list and its all but glory of the past, including chanel, guerlain, gucci, occasionally artisan. It makes me think that he is one of those whos gold standard got formed by those and everything else is just not good no matter what. Then i read he liked one or more from Beaufort London which is an absolute attack on the nose, his credibility got a serious questionmark in my eyes. At the end of the day he is just a fragbro like any of us, who simply had a chance to work in the industry. Nothing more, nothing less.

Cute as fuck bottle. Chypre Siam will be my next for sure

>>17773371
>chypre. the term you’re looking for is chypre.
TRUE. For a long time I have been looking for a similar fragrance with a greater presence of oak moss.

>>17773390
Here you go

>>17773379
>sperging about turin unprompted
rent free

>>17773012
>Can you please smile, lift your arms and read this sentence out loud?
What the fuck does that even mean

>>17773379
>I prefer to value opinions of established fragrance reviewers (who basically started fragrance criticism as a field) who worked in the industry for years both commercially and academically over people who judge value of fragrances by how "market states that ALD is desirable, and Bortnikoffs tend to sell at a loss." But that's just my personal preference. Others might disagree.
>Maybe he just didn't want to bother with next releases if none of the five fragrances he tested were really worth his time? Sounds like a reasonable thing to do to me. How many second chances one can give if time is probably the most precious resource for a fragrance reviewer writing a book? That's just a guess, though, I'm not Turin. I also thought that the 1 collection was supposed to be one of the best (at least market seems to state that)?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH Jesus, it's better than /frag/

>>17773399
Thank you. I've been wanting to try something from Rogue Perfumery for a long time

>>17773399
Are Etruscan water and chypre Siam similar? I get some strong bianchi vibes on the drydown in chypre Siam

>>17773360
What’s your thoughts on imperiale?

>>17773374
cheers

>The human brain is one of the most complex organs in the animal kingdom with over 100 billion neurons. In fact, we are still in the "dark ages" of understanding the brain, but recent advances in technology (fMRI, PET, EEG, and MEG to name a few) are just beginning to unlock the complexity of the human brain. One of the most interesting areas to me is the potential relationship between the perception of smells and associated psychological/psychiatric/personality disorders. Thus, it may be proven one day that how an individual perceives smell is related to an individuals underlying psychological profile (and genetic wiring so to speak). Maybe one day in the future a persons analysis of Russian Adam's perfumes (and other perfumers as well) can serve as a method to diagnose underlying psychopathology?
Admit it. Which one of you wrote that lmao

>>17773511
kino and based

>>17773191
What is it exactly that creates that old lady perfume smell? I was surprised by how modern mitsouko smells but maybe its been reformulated. I expected the peach to be unrecognizable under a bunch of moss and shit

>>17772219
why does all perfume smell the exact same after 5 years?

such an odd phenomenon

>>17773407
You're smelling things that aren't there. I was testing if you're showing symptoms of a stroke. But at least your nose isn't as fucked the nose of this guy >>17773601

>>17773590
Powdery amber. The powder can come from oakmoss (or oakmoss like notes)

>>17773614
Its like a floral thing I think. Maybe ylang ylang. Unless the powderiness is soured

>>17773297
You're talking about just normie shit right? Not like a classic cologne that the others are recommending? A&F Fierce if so. You're looking for late 90s-early 2000s stuff.

>>17773614
>The powder can come from oakmoss (or oakmoss like notes
(you)

>>17773605
Well it is definitely there, so check your nose mate

It's funny how one's taste can change. I remember when I tested Musc Koublai Khan for the first time in my life years ago at Harrods. It was the most repugnant, animalic, faecal fragrance I had had smelled then. It left such a mark at memory that I even put it in the chart >>17772226 as "Unwashed armpits of a neanderthal hunter" years later. I decided to revisit it recently because of its re-release in the cult Bell Jar Serge Lutens flacon and bought a decant. I'm wearing it now, in summer, and find it an infinitely pleasant spiced amber with creamy ambrette undertones. There is only a bit of animalic buzz fuzzing in the background for me. I am seriously considering getting a full bottle of it (especially given how nice the Bell Jars are), but first gonna see how people around me react to it. I'm curious if it was simply auto-suggestion because I expected something faecal or I just accustomed to such smells and random people will think the same not knowing to it. I have three dates coming this weekend. That seems like a good ocassion to test it out.

>>17773621
Yeah idk what the hell they’re talking about desu. Just something simple. I think it’s a ysl fragrance, some polo comes close

>sprayed my hand with tiny spray of Dior Homme Parfum yesterday
>can still smell that beautiful far drydown on my skin, after two showers
man, I still love this scent. such a perfect storm of a designer release

whats the absolute best leather frag?

>>17773645
One of the best releaes of the last decade. Dior Homme is to designer fragrances the same as Bois Imperial is to niche frags.

went to the local store and and test something on the skin that I had never tried and I'm blown away by blue jeans. yeah, the versace one. performance is terrible but it's amazing. it's both jovial and classy at the same time, dated and refreshing. idk why I had never tried it before and may be old news to everyone else...
also tried rochas man. I get why people compare it to pure havane since it's got the same idea of fragrance with different notes. their direction is very similar though rochas is cleaner and pure havane is sleazier. could be a little less sweet but also very surprised with it.

Imagine unironically needing more than 2 or 3 fragrances lol. Fags with "collections" should honestly just be executed.

>>17773641
Didn't they reformulate the shit out of it? I think there have been quite a few discussions about that.

>>17773666
Any collector should just be executed? There are a lot of people, probably someone you love as well.

>>17773666
go home Satan, you are drunk

>>17773667
Might be the case but I have also read quite a few reviews of people owning the old (Palace) and new version saying that they are the same scent. In any case, the new MKK is great and I love it. For this reason I'm not going to give into some reformulation FOMO because why would I?

>>17773666
I own plenty of bottles and at the same time agree with you. If one's objective is purely utilitarian, then there's no need for more than just a few bottles. But in this case I think coming to this thread is also kind of pointless.

>>17773080
>>17773399
How often does PerfumeCraft restock? I want to sample their stuff

>>17773643
A&F fierce is that smell imo I’m trying to think of others that are similar. I’m not sure any YSL is really like that unless you’re thinking of something in particular. Some of the polos like blue or red are probably pretty generic whit but I’ve never tried them

>>17773666
I go between feeling that way and obsession over novel smelling shit, though I usually just load up on samples instead of buying bottles

>>17773681
I don't really know. I think his oakmoss fragrance could have been limited because he was handpicking some special local types of mosses for it. It seems like he's a small ultra-niche one-man-army perfumer, so dropping him an e-mail would be the best way to get it re-released. I can only say that Kaszebczsi Mech is glorious.

eros smells like a sleazy gayboy

>>17772219
Could I get some help? I'm starting uni again or the Fall and need the sexiest fragrance to wear. It must be something you've been complimented on by a female at least a couple of times.

>>17773699
Ultra Male

>>17773703
he said female, not male

>>17773699
Caron pour un homme usually gets my compliments. Hmm something smells good. But it makes little difference when I was in college I didn’t wear and frags and I picked up new girls every weekend.

>>17773699
just get dior sauvage

>>17773297
Davidoff cool water is what you’re looking for

>>17773711
Thanks, I'll take a look at that one.
>>17773712
I don't want to smell like a plebe. Anything but that, plus I have it already.

I'm looking for something that 18 - 30 women will love

>>17773699
>complimented on by a female at least a couple of times
There is only one king. Get it, and don't listen to any anime basement dwellers in this thread.

>>17773721
the average person is a fucking plebe. get used to it.
>>17773722
lol, lmao, rofl even

>>17773726
how do you dress?

>>17773729
a question i’d love to answer, but not in the fragrance general

>>17773733
Post your fragrance collection

>>17773699
Yatagan has netted me the most compliments unironically, but have to be VERY high IQ to make it work.

>>17773688
Does his stuff sell out fast? I wouldn't want to get a sample and just miss out and be shit out of luck. The only Chypre I've tried is Azemour les Orangers, which I did really enjoy. Though they don't seem comparable.

>>17773733
well i figured it would help you find a good scent

Did negros not work hard? Is that really that racist?

>>17773722
This.

>>17773736
i bet you wish i would.
>>17773747
i can assure you that i don’t need your help with that.

>>17773771
Replied to the wrong person my bad. Was trying to reply to the college guy

>>17773762
This is why I love vintage Guerlains. Owned by based non Jews. Now Guerlain is owned by jewish companies, so is all the other perfumes.

>>17773762
Getting fined by the government for that is fucking insane

>>17773775
you do realize that bernard arnault is about as decidedly french as a frenchman can get, right?
>Raised in a "strict Catholic-Auvergne" style by his devoutly Catholic grandmother, Arnault took classical piano lessons as a child and attended elite Catholic schools.
LVMH is many things, but jewish is not one of them, despite what the /pol/ memes may lead you to believe.

>>17773762
>Did negros not work hard?
Have they ever worked hard anon?

>>17773783
Ok that’s good to know. Caron is owned by the Rothschilds now. I just assumed LVMH is Jewish too. Also believe Caron himself was Jewish. But his frags are good so I’ll give him a pass

>>17773788
caron is literally owned by a rothschild who is a huge devotee of their fragrances, yes. i can’t believe you actually thought bernard arnault was jewish this entire time.

>>17773771
Just type out your collection or your top 5. I feel like all you do here is cause disarray

>>17773787
When they were slaves, I'd assume so, but who knows

>>17773790
i’ve talked lots about my favorite fragrances and what i bought while in paris. if you can’t extrapolate from that, you don’t need to know.

>>17773783
>>17773788
Do the quality of clothes go to shit like fragrances when a brand is bought by LVMH?

>>17773792
That wasn’t you, that was me posting my pictures while in Paris you pleb

>>17773743
Kaszebsczi Mech kind of reminds me of a really beefed-up Chanel Pour Monsieur with musk

>>17773795
yes, but that’s just frenchmen being frenchmen, they’re all cheap pieces of shit. no hebrew involvement necessary.
>>17773797
i bet you wish that were true.

>>17773791
I think if you did some research, you'd have quite the laugh.

>>17773681
i'd tell you if the fucker would reply to my email from early july
>>17773688
if only you knew...

>>17773721
>I'm looking for something that 18 - 30 women will love
dior sauvage
keep using it. it's a good fragrance anon. I like it in myself

>>17772729
I’m back from Sephora.
>H24 EDT
hated the licorice note
>TdH EDT
bug spray on me
>Fahrenheit
burning rubber but somewhat interesting. will revisit.
Walked out with Dior Homme EDT lol. Was not expecting to like it. I sampled a few Tom Fords, Prada (no L’homme unfortunately), and YSL. I just can’t get into designer frags.

The guy that's shilling prin in the Ald basenotes post , keep with the good work.

I'm considering getting another haxan bottle just for the sake of it, but I'm pretty sure that the fragrance will go to shit in a few years giving its use of so many natural oils

>>17773837
licorice???

>>17773840
>thaislop

>>17773837
did the same thing today lol
but i went to buy it at nordstrom after smelling them at sephora because the dude theres mad chill and the bitches at sephora are annoying

>>17773853
Yeah it was in the opening. Something making it somewhat sweet in a cloying way. Maybe I’m just sensitive to it idk.

>>17773837
there’s no licorice note in H24 though???

>>17773856
I wish I had a Nordstrom’s. Sephora girl today was nice but a pleb. I feel like such a faggot snob from this disappointing designer frag trip. Ormonde Man, Sel Marin, hell even M01 is just so incredible compared to the masstige I smelled today.

>>17773878
Yeah idk its what my brain picked up and I couldn’t get past it.

>>17773879
im just trying to smell good for chinese girls idc about all that

>>17773886
asian women hate perfume. i would know, my mom finds it repulsive.

>>17773840
Unfamiliar with this house but they sound very interesting.

>>17773201
Performance is very good for the price. I get 2-3 hours of projection and it lasts around 8 hours all up.

>>17773837
I told you DH is the one. Dior provides even to those who would only wear niche. Fahrenheit is way too hit-or-miss with people, so it was predictable that DH would win

Found this guy's review looking for information about Rogue and I loved it

https://kafkaesqueblog.com/2022/09/12/rogue-perfumery-chypre-siam/

Quite autistic review I have to say

>>17773960
it’s not nice to go around calling people predictably gay.

I want something fruity and inviting. Help!

Imagine unironically thinking your niche garbage that cost $500 smells better than my Club de Nuit Intense Man lmaooo

Wearing polo green vintage tonight tk sleep. Forgot how much I like this one. I’ll have to wear it more often and I think it fits fine to summer feels. Beautiful pine frag. Fits well to the shores of Hossegor France

>>17773889
good thing im not trying to fuck your mom

>>17774029
your loss buddy

>>17773716
This

What did trump and tucker wear during their interview tonight?

>>17774057
CDNIM

>>17774057
Trumps a simple man. I’d expect something like polo sport

Went to a local frag shop today for the first time (actual fragrance shop, not just a Macy’s or w/e big box store that also happens to ‘carry’ fragrance.)

Walked in and requested suggestions on “spicy” fragrances because those were mostly what appealed to me when reading over the newbie guide pics.

Ended up buying samples of
>Scorpio Rising - Eris Parfums
>Vapeurs Diablotines - Sous le Manteau
>Desert Rosewood - Goldfield & Banks Australia
>Ganymede - Marc-Antoine Barrois

And a full bottle of
>Bois Impérial - Essential Parfums

Thoughts, comments, general insults?

>>17774098
I also have a full bottle of Spicebomb Extreme on the way because the first one they sent me is leaking, but from my first week~ of using it it doesn’t last more than… an hour or so tops on me, which seems impossible based on every review I’ve read.

Kind of thinking about buying a bottle / sample of
>Wanted by Night - Azzaro
>Neroli Mediterraneo - Perris Monte Carlo

>>17774098
Did you test Bois imperial Forst? What’s your impression of it?

>>17774113
I’ll be honest, I blind bought the 10ml sample online at the suggestion of someone in one of these threads (possibly the schizo schill, but it was based on multiple posts, not just one). Regardless, I like it, the scent is pleasant, although I’ll also admit I’m not difficult to please. The sillage and performance is legit though. It really does carry, and lasts 12+ hours on me, hence buying the full bottle.

>>17774098
What do you think of Ganymede? It's one of my favourites

Why didn't you guys tell me that iron duke is great??

>>17774242
I do every time Beaufort is brought up

is there any beginner fragrance that I can get and wear all year around?
I'm too poor to have multiple fragrance for different seasons
I was going to get Cool Water Davidoff but I don't know anymore

>>17774057
Pinaud Clubman

>>17774262
Jeanne an Provence Acqua would work too. or Versace Blue Jeans if you want something more sweet

>>17773976
>guy
It's a noselet bitch that has too much to say, that is all. She still swears she smells iso-e super in some speculative Chypre Palatin reformulation despite Parfums MDCI saying there is none in it, and I can't smell it in there, either. She's probably just jealous of the noses of her German shepherds, to whom she refers to as her Teutonic Overlords and their slave, apparently (picrel). Make of that what you want, but some would say that you just know.

>>17773977
Why? Not everybody is as closeted as you.

>>17774262
Dylan Blue. Neither expensive nor seasonal. Alternatively Missoni Parfum Pour Homme. Same versatility, same type of fragrance.

>>17774098
>And a full bottle of
>>Bois Impérial - Essential Parfums
You did well.

I don't understand, it just smells like watered down Burberry London - like a spicy Christmas tree doused in whiskey. I don't get rose or rain whatsoever.

Is it me? What went wrong? Where do I go from here?

>>17774366
>She still swears she smells iso-e super in some speculative Chypre Palatin reformulation despite Parfums MDCI saying there is none in it, and I can't smell it in there, either
To be fair what else can the brand say?

okay, this is great. I'm glad I got a bottle.
it's a really classy, softer, understated take on this genre that feels more modern to me than Zino or Heritage. maybe it's the creamy, powdery sandalwood and vanilla heavy drydown, which is just universally pleasant or maybe it's the lack of any dirty or smoky notes, old school spices, heavy amounts of oakmoss etc.

it's just great, Maurice Roucel did an amazing job on making something classic yet timeless. hard to believe you can get this for 20$. I like the bottle as well. I got the EDP for better performance. I do wonder what it would smell like with more citrus though, not sure if the EDT makes a noticable difference

>>17773011
It’s mostly similar to avignon, your description is apt

I just had my gf smell both and she thought lavs unum was sour in comparison

>>17774405
They have specifically said there was no reformulation. It's not a big house owned by bigger corp and the guy who runs it even stated that multiple directly on her website under the article where she said that. It wasn't some kind of "official statement" or whatever. Iso-e super gives her a headache, which already is autosuggestion, and she apparently bases her iso-e super detection in that frag on that. There's no changing someone who is susceptible to autosuggestion and her symptoms will immediately show up again every time she now tests the fragrance, whether or not there is iso-e super in there.

>>17773379
Maybe he just prefer well-crafted intriguing perfumes that evokes the imagination and emotions, and don't care for the latest uninspired flankers, overpriced reinvented wheels and screechy synthetic crap.

Just like anything art related, music, film etc. There's so much garbage being produced and it doesn't deserve praise just because it was expensive to produce or is the new hype and trend.

>>17774434
And just to elaborate, the owner of the house has even brought in a statement of the analytical company that performs the gas chromatography for quality control. They stated that the products are still the same, yet she said it still smelled different to her. Autosuggestion now has a hold on her which she can never break, even when presented with conflicting evidence. A mental weakness.

>>17773590
Musk and florals?

I want to get something for my gf that will get my dick hard, any suggestions?

>>17774444
Shalimar EDP does it for me

>>17774444
i suggest going to the stores with her and finding something both she and you like. other than that, you could gift her kouros, since it's obvious that she (presumably female) isn't enough to get your dick hard, so if she smells like a gay guy it might get you going.

>>17774444
get her to forcefeed you viagra pills, moron

>>17774448
my dick works fine, I just used it as a metaphor

>>17774444
light blue

>>17774366
>17773976 #
>>guy
>It's a noselet bitch that has too much to say, that is all. She still swears she smells iso-e super in some speculative Chypre Palatin reformulation despite Parfums MDCI saying there is none in it, and I can't smell it in there, either. She's probably just jealous of the noses of her German shepherds, to whom she refers to as her Teutonic Overlords and their slave, apparently (picrel). Make of that what you want, but some would say that you just know.

Kek , now I like her even more . What a crazy bitch

>>17774425
are the iris notes prominent? I have some samples of Bois de Portugal, a fragrance with which it is often compared, the truth is that the composition of Creed is not my cup of tea.

>>17774178
I liked it, I asked about popular fragrances after I had picked out several spicy ones for samples and it was one of the first she suggested. I only smelled it on the test strip, and didn’t hang onto it to get too deep into the dry down, but I’m planning to wear it today to work.

>>17774452
you get hard at the smell of rubbing alcohol?

>>17774455
Wear a single spray or two, that stuff is potent and you can get noseblind to it

>>17774454
not prominent to my nose, it's mixed down and probably just adds to the powdery creamy base
I haven't smelled Bois de Portugal, so I can't compare them. I definitely like it more than Heritage

I smelled Encre Noire today. Nice cypress but powdery aspects of betiver are to prominent. I think there might be some orris root inside it that’s not officially listed

>>17774474
>encre noire is a chypre
it’s fucking over for some of you people

>>17774476
Encre Noire is not chypre despite what powdery iris note in it could suggest. It’s much more complex than a chypre but I can’t simply wear it because of the iris.

>>17774474
yes, pretty similar to ultra male due to this powdery aspect, both got me quite a few compliments from the ladies

>>17774479
please stop shitposting, we’re worried about you

in autumn/winter I wear tweed and corduroy, can you recommend me a fragrance that goes well with that and captures the feel of an old british manor?

>>17774486
grey flannel, and yes i know flannels and tweeds are different.

>>17774474
>>17774479
>>17774481
controversial take: this iris drydown shitposting is the funniest meme I've seen come out of this thread in a long time

>>17774485
Kek he doesn’t know what orris root smells like

>>17774485
>>17774498
Have you even tried to smell orris root? It's a note considered strictly feminine in the West. Think: lipsticks or women's pads.

>>17774476
EN is not a chypre. Chypre must always contain four ingredients: bergamot, labdanum, oakmoss, iris. EN is missing oakmoss out of these 4. If you want to smell a chypre, try Bois Imperial by Quentin Bisch. It's a direct descendant from Mitsuoko and alikes.

>>17774498
Fuckers , they butchered my new York intense sample and now everyone making fun of me

>>17773623
Oakmoss extract is extensively used in makeup powders. You child. You fucking buffoon. Apologise immediately.

https://incidecoder.com/ingredients/evernia-prunastri-extract

>>17774506
Sorry anon, but it just fit into the thread zeitgeist too perfectly, with NYI and iris both being very prominent topics lately, the guy who kept complaining NYI has too much vanilla, the whole old school macho posturing... It was like a perfect storm.

You can tell that a quite a lot of easily amused thread tourists are posting here at the moment.

>>17774498
>>17774499
>>17774501
>>17774504
i think i prefer the gothrock homo sperging out about beaufort and the mulatto guy posting cuck porn to this retarded concern trolling

>>17773660
Can you wear Blue Jeans in winter or is it too fresh

>>17774523
works fine year round IMO, it's not really a typical summer freshie, it has quite a bit of sweetness and vanilla

But the name "chypre" (chypvra etc), apart from any geographical connotations, had travelled in aromatic stanzas throughout the Middle Ages, Renaissance and the Age of Enlightenment thanks to the vigorous commerce of the enterprising Cypriots who dabbled in a feminine product with an added scent: their famous "Cipria" powder, a cosmetic face powder -presented by various different local "houses"- which was further aromatized with the cypriot aromatic blends they had excelled at for centuries (And which, by all accounts, judging by the later specimens circulating into the 20th century, smelled not far off what we consider a chypre fragrance today!)
Chypre fragrances smell like old makeup confirmed . Die in a fire noselets

>But the name "chypre" (chypvra etc), apart from any geographical connotations, had travelled in aromatic stanzas throughout the Middle Ages, Renaissance and the Age of Enlightenment thanks to the vigorous commerce of the enterprising Cypriots who dabbled in a feminine product with an added scent: their famous "Cipria" powder, a cosmetic face powder -presented by various different local "houses"- which was further aromatized with the cypriot aromatic blends they had excelled at for centuries (And which, by all accounts, judging by the later specimens circulating into the 20th century, smelled not far off what we consider a chypre fragrance today!)


Chypre fragrances smell like old makeup confirmed . Die in a fire noselets

>>17774533
>mfw some retard online refuses to wear pour monsieur because its genre shares the same name as makeup from the middle ages

>>17774534
>makeup from the middle ages
Cipria powder is still used in makeup products to this day anon

>>17774538
source: my ass

>>17774533
My biggest beef with chypres is how powdery they are. If only someone did a chypre without iris, so it doesn't smell like hygenic products for women. This could prove to be a bestseller.

>>17774540
you are severely mentally ill

>>17774539
Google you fucking retard, you can find it them every cosmetic store.

People in the thread feeling masculine wearing chypres when in reality they smell like grandmas makeup . And then they make fun of the Dior homme line

>>17774543
source that modern day cipria powder has any relation to medieval ciria powder or even current chypres: my ass

>>17774540
guerlain vetiver has powdery tobacco note that doesn't smell like iris at all, and the chypre like citrus on top and oakmoss as the base. it's the best non-chypre chypre out there.

>>17774540
>If only someone did a chypre without iris, so it doesn't smell like hygenic products for women
They did, it's called Dior Homme 2020. It was an attempt to take away the iris from the earlier chypre releases in the line, creating an iris-less chypre.
Now if only NYI could receive the same treatment...

>>17774481
Haven't had a laugh like that in days, thanks

>>17774549
We've been over this anon, Guerlain Vetiver has iris in the drydown, and real iris at that. It actually reminded me of "Lipstick on" by Margiela, must be all the chypre influence.

>>17774550
and what about bleu de chanel edp? citrus, labdanum, real oakmoss, iris nowhere to be seen. would that be a good chypre or does the coumarin make it a classic fougere?

>>17774547
And which, by all accounts, judging by the later specimens circulating into the 20th century, smelled not far off what we consider a chypre fragrance today!)

From the post you didn't read retard

>>17774549
>>17774550
>>17774555
>>17774556
fellas, please, this is just uncalled for
>>17774557
>by all accounts
translation:
>source: my ass

>>17774556
Well it is a modern classic, so I think it's more of a classical fougere due to its cultural role. Sort of the modern Drakkar Noir, a 1980s classical fougere.

>>17774492
in the beginning, sure, after that it's really clean and soapy, and I already have it. Anything else?

>>17774566
>>>17774557 (You) #
>>by all accounts
>translation:
>>source: my ass

First stage of grief: Denial


>All the complexity of the chypre perfume family lies in this olfactory completeness. The chypre perfumes have a sweet, light, and floral aspect with a slight tangy top note. We find this smell in a large number of cosmetics and in renowned perfumers, as well as in smaller perfume houses

>>17774587
>it’s in a greentext, it must be true
of all the saddest words of tongue and pen, the saddest is:
>source: my ass

>>17774586
perhaps equipage, though that may be more countryside than strictly countryside manor.

>>17774486
guerlain vetiver smells like the gardener at an old british manor to me. earth, vegetation, some tobacco he smokes while working.

why do all black women smell like this?

wearing yatagan at the bank today

>>17774057
Creed royal oud

>>17774498
It’s been going on for a while now. Some anon thought it would be funny to say Guerlain vetiver has iris knowing that I love Guerlain vetiver and at the same time say that Dior homme smells gay because of the lipsticky smelling iris in the dry down. I admit, the seething it causes is comical.

>>17774543
Wow you’re still butt hurt from people calling you gay for wearing lipsticky smelly perfume (Dior homo) or from sodomy?

How many sprays should I use for Kenzo Homme EDT Intense? I currently spray 6x total, 2 on chest/upper belly, 1 on each inner elbow, and 1 behind each ears. Not sure if this is too much, and I'm also not sure if I'm noseblind now.

>>17774631
it's really strong IIRC, I definitely wouldn't apply more than that

>>17774549
Even Luca Turin said that he loves Guerlinade (the accord that Guerlain is known for) for its smart use orris root as the core of all Guerlain fragrances, but he doesn't seem it very fitting for Guerlain Vetiver as it makes it too feminine for something that is marketed towards men. But hey, some say that fragrances don't have a gender so I wouldn't worry about the iris there.

>>17774556
Bleu de Chanel is one of the best modern Chypres. The nose behind it said that he envisioned it as a more masculine take on the classical Chanel's chypre "Pour Monsieur". It's funny to see how prevalent and productive the idea of a chypre can be even in 21st century.

>>17774604
Great foresty fougere. I just wish it didn't have that much of vanilla in the drydown.

>>17774540
>If only someone did a chypre without iris
A chypre (in French "Chypre" means "Cyprus") without iris is called a "fougere" (it stands for "fern" in french).

>>17774630
Apparently wearing chypres makes you even more gay

>>17774631
>>17774636

Kenzo homme edt intense has absurdly nuclear performance. It's prone to cause you nose blindness so don't wear more than one or two sprays

>>17774643
So can one just say that fougeres are masculine version of chypres without the listpick note?

>>17774642
adding random notes to fragrances doesn’t really pass for humor.

how office appropriate is azzaro pour homme?

>>17774648
There are some notable excpetions, but I think you got it right as the rule of thumb. Also
>not wearing chypres just because they contain orris root (it's not the same as iris)
ishygddt

>>17774631
Yeah I'd go easy on it. I did three and it gave me a headache, haven't really touched it since.

I tried D&G The One and I have no idea why people are interested in it, like it smells decent but it has legitimately no performance and has no distinction whatsoever.

one wonders what kind of easily entertained retard would waste so much time spamming about something so trivial and banal, and if said person was also the one who was having a field day spamming about indians for 2 months straight.

>>17774604
Classic chypre desu

>>17774646
I just went with my intuition. I smelled Dior homme original and it instantly brought me back to going to the mall with my three sisters and walking through the makeup section at macys. It smells like lipstick. The rest snells very generic 2000s, like an Abercrombie or Aeropostale store. Then some anons made some memes and the rest is history. Chypres might have smelled gay a generation ago, but lots have changed since then.

>>17774649
If you'd look at the notes pyramid of Yatagan, you would notice "castoreum" in the base. It was called "paste of the kings" in medieval and it has been used for years for its vanillic properties. A masstige brand like Caron cannot obviously source real castoreum (it's made by castrating beavers), so they have to reconstruct this accord abstractly. Vanilla is crucial in that reconstruction for obtaining quality castoreum note. Fun fact is that castoreum is used in another industry in these days: artisan vanilla icecream making. It is known for enhancing the properties of real vanilla. Here is an article from NatGeo about that: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/beaver-butt-goo-vanilla-flavoring

>>17774654
The situation is completely the reverse and frankly your inability to see that speaks volumes.

>>17774660
From the said article:
>Instead of smelling icky, castoreum has a musky, vanilla scent, which is why food scientists like to incorporate it in recipes.
Now you can imagine why Yatagan is so vanilla-dominant given that castoreum is one of the most prominent notes there.

>>17774660
no one is laughing, not even you.
>>17774661
>the opposite is true because i say so!

>>17774648
Just wear a classically masculine fragrance if you can’t trust your intuition on what smells gay, feminine, masculine, or neutral and want some masculine leaning. I suggest something like guerlain heritage, guerlain vetiver, Davidoff cool water, zino, Caron pour un homme, yatagan. There’s lots of frags that won’t mistaken you as gay.

>>17774660
>>17774662
Based anon dropping some knowledge-pills.

>>17774664
I have a very attuned sense of posting style and can confirm it is most likely the indian guy who accidentally took his own picture who is posting his little tushy off about iris right now. Glad I could help you understand what's going on in the thread.

>>17774667
the fact that you think there is an indian guy at all says more about you than anyone else.

>>17774636
>>17774646
>>17774653

People around me haven't said anything about it being too strong/too much, though they definitely do smell it. I don't get any headaches from wearing it, but I'll tone it down to 3x sprays from now on. 2 on chest/upper belly and 1 on nape of the neck.

>>17774665
>Caron pour un homme, yatagan
These are vanilla fragrances
>guerlain vetiver, Davidoff cool water
These are iris fragrances
The only good suggestion for someone who wants to smell "masculine" from your list is Zino, but it is a clone of Tom Ford Beau de Jeur, so I don't see a point of getting it over the real thing. However, I would rather recommend getting a gym subscription instead of a fragrance if someone wants to be more masculine. I can bench press 3 plates, and can wear something feminine like Guerlain Vetiver or Caron PUH without anyone batting an eye for it being women's fragrances marketed towards men. Tl;dr wear whatever you want, even if it is "feminine".

>>17774660
>>17774662
based and castoreum(vanilla)-pilled

>>17774660
The concentrations of castoreum (if indeed real castoreum is still being used in yatagan) is far greater than that used to give a vanillic note. Hence the leathery/animalic drydown of yatagan. You would have to be having a stroke to think it smells vanillic.

>>17774669
Wow, and a copy cat to boot! You can't just steal my witty comebacks for yourself in a pathetic attempt to save face.

>>17774677
see >>17774662
But I'm not going to be arguing with you. I'm happy for you that it smells like you like and you don't pick how vanillic it is, even if it is literally made out of vanilla. The beauty of fragrances and smell is in the subjectivity of perceptions.

Does anyone in this thread know what a chypre is?

>>17774681
It is a fougere with an iris (or orris root) note added to it.

>>17774680
I wish I could hold you down and forcibly spray yatagan up your nose until you relented. This isn't over. I've memorised your posting style and have nothing but free time on my hands. Be seeing you...

>>17774677
>Hence the leathery/animalic drydown of yatagan
It dries down on me to powdery-vanillic accord with some green-bitter herbs lingering. My gf sometimes steals it from me.

>>17774686

>>17774678
if the shoe fits, meine freund.

>>17774688
The powder comes from the oakmoss as >>17773623 pointed out, so that makes sense.

>>17774690
The rheinmetall German?

>>17774695
not german, just wanted some additional flair that the english language does not provide

>>17774692
>>17774692
>>17774692

What is with these threads and inspiring complete schizos to go nuts in them.

>>17774672
>guerlain vetiver
>caron pour homme and yatagan
>feminine

you bench 65

>>17772541
Lacoste Blanc