/fa/ - Fashion

>>17757702
The fragrance groups 101 chart.

>>17757702
The fragrance flowchart for beginners.

Both these ebay sellers sent the bianchis now even though I spam messaged to cancel them. I'm smelling them and sending them back. I got under my skin today. I am trying to get used to more animalic niche frags and I like the smell from the atomizer, but am ready for it to turn to complete unwearable shit on my skin

I hate it when EDT and EDP smell different

Any alibaba fragrance enjoyers?

Two questions:

1. What do you guys think about Penhaligon (apart for the shitty names)? I'm about to order samples for Roaring Radcliffe, Indomitable, Blazing Max and Uncompromising Sohan.

2. Any good cowboy scents?
Something like:
Whisky, Tobacco,
Leather, Musk or Wood.
Wild flower (/weak rose scent and grass)

>>17757727
Also, MDCI but rather than it being EDPs as Perfumes?

>35 yuros including shipping on notino
I think I'm ready to cop this manly and refined everyday driver. Smells so accomplished.

You know that smell of newly bought clothing made of synthetic material? What are some frags with that smell?

>>17757727
I'm not a huge fan of penhaligons perfumes. If they have been at it for hundreds of years then why are they all so forgettable? Also the spiffy English victoriana bullshit puts me right off

For cowboy scents you've got to pay your respects to this big hoss... Coty Stetson...

>>17757402
Yeah there is
https://www.perfume-parlour.co.uk/cubed-volcano-for-men-0540

>>17757273
You haven't even tried it yet, buy a sample and find out for yourself.
He smelled SMV thousands of times for years.
https://hiddensamples.com/products/armaf-club-de-nuit-sillage?_pos=1&_psq=sillage&_ss=e&_v=1.0
You have no good reason to not try it.

>>17757747
any others? stetson looks nice but it's EDC

>>17757739
>not only I buy fast fashion, I want to smell like it too
Abercrombie Fierce (or any clones like montblanc black) is exactly what most of those fast fashion stores smell like. Revolting.

>>17757764
It's from the era when almost all men's perfumes were labelled EDC regardless of strength. It lasts quite a long time on my skin.

Lone Star memories might also be a good shout.

This frag puts me into heat but is it supposed to have the worst fucking atomizer of all time?? Why does my Cerruti 1881 have a god tier atomizer and this one feels fucking broken? It only gives the tiniest shit squirts i gotta pump like 20 times. Is there a way to fix it? You think D&G may replace the bottle? Are they all like this? Its just annoying!

>>17757754
roflmao

Anyone tried Bottega Veneta EDP 2011? can men pull it off?

>>17757727
Tauer Lonestar Memories is a cowboy scent

>>17757801
Buy some 5ml or larger atomizers from amazon and decant

>>17757727
>cowboy scents
you already know

I'd like to gift a fragrance to my father, who now, in his early 60s, proudly makes a display of how the only fragrance he's ever worn in his adult life has been Van Cleef & Arpels pour homme, and he keeps and empty splash bottle in his bedroom for old time's sake.
As much as I love him I'm not going to drop €200+ on a bottle that he's unlikely to finish, so is there anything similar enough that you would recommend?

>>17757896
buy him Dakar by Al Rehab, or Ted Lapidus Pour Homme

>>17757727
im interested in some cowboy shit too

>>17757937
retarded out of touch /frag/ basement dweller recommends a fucking mudslime knockoff to a 60 year old man

>>17757879
>not southern blend
look at this city slicker over here

>>17757950
which is a million times better than the original, you clueless newfaggot

>>17757972
>buying knockoffs from stinky arabs
>in any context, ever
You people need to be expelled from this general, forcibly

>>17757972
yeah, because a german mulatto addicted to gay pornography told you so. big fuckin deal.

>>17757975
>one of the most renowned country for perfumery
I'm not surprised the typical poltard mutt is indeed clueless pretty much about everything he talks about
>>17757978
Jeremy doesn't know shit about Dakar or anything that is not mall designer tier. And I own it.

this general always had tards but Holy fuck, these people are unreal

>>17757981
who the fuck said anything about jeremy? the primary dakar shill in these threads is a gay german guy who spams cuckold porn every other thread. this is who you share your arab knockoffs with.

>>17757981
>one of the most renowned country for perfumery
Uh huh… that’s why the only fragrances people buy from them are cheap knockoffs of western scents. Fuck outta here

>>17757986
I couldn't care less, it's literally the best masculine fougere for cheap with great performance, it could be made by Hitler himself and skilled by you tards, it wouldn't make it smell any worse.
>>17757987
now that you showed everyone you are an ignorant burger for the third time, will you kill yourself now?

>>17757975
>>17757978
you fags are right actually, he should goft him drakkar noir so his dad can enjoy a whole 15 minutes of smelling good.

>>17758008
Or—and I realize this is pretty out there but stick with me here—he could give him an actually good fragrance instead? I know, I know

>>17757727
>Any good cowboy scents?
Sex & Cigarettes
Tobacco Maniac
Iron Duke
Cuoium, if you want something really out there

>>17757726
Doesn't alibaba or taobao have indie houses that release decent non-clones on the sites?

What is the scent that goes with Careless Whisper?

>>17758079
Joop!

>>17757896
If you can't find a cheap bottle of Gucci Nobile, try Bon Monsieur or YSL Jazz

>>17758079
I dunno, something cheap with mass appeal

W2C the aromatics used to make parfumes? I wish to try making my own fragrance

Anyone try corsica furiosa or Mal aime from Parfum d'empire? Do they have that kind of galbanum crushed stem Chanel no 19 smell at all?

Serious question bros, is maceration real or is it a meme? I see people mention macerating all the time but no one seems to know what maceration actually is or how to properly do it. Is it only for cheap frags?

>>17758155
is jerkoff a bunch of corny ass chinx?

>>17758082
underrated

Do you guys collect solid colognes or perfume balms? What do you think of them?

>>17758082
>>17758194
Someone gave me a bottle of joop somewhat recently. I guess they got it pawned off to them by someone who i guess likes it. I dont think it smells terrible. When its dried down and not oversprayed. I think it could smell pretty decent. It seems like a cold weather type of thing though

>>17758155
Once you open and spray almost any perfume air will enter the container and cause some changes to it. The extent of the changes depends on what's in the fragrance.

I have a beach wedding in 3 weeks, its hot as hell since i live on the coast so i was wondering what would be a better choice for a frag.

Creed Silver Mountain Water
Versace Man Eau Fraiche
Aqua Dio Gio Profondo

Im open to other sugestions as long as i can get a decant for a reasonable price.

Does anybody know if Fragrancenet does refunds? My order doesn't last more than 20 minutes on my skin. Should I even bother trying to get my money back?

>>17758269
what did you buy?

>>17758264
Oh dear.

>>17758239
I didn’t mean that JOOP was underrated I meant that the comment was underrated. JOOP is shit

>>17758264
Please tell me you’re not the groom

I dislike DHI and love Le Male Le Parfum. What does that say about me?

>>17758271
Comme des Garcons 2

>>17758281
That you have shit taste. Even tho I thi lmlp is good

>>17758280
nope, hes my friend. What else should i wear at the beach in the summer at 6pm 30 celsius?

>>17757995
>best masculine fougere
>an arab knockoff of sauvage from the 70s
ROFLMAO
>>17758008
overspraying ape

>>17758264
>>17758291
i feel sorry for your buddy, it looks like his wedding his set to stink like ass.

>>17757708
based as always

>>17757708
garbage as always
>>17758295
retarded as always

>>17758155
> Maturation: Time required for a perfume concentrate, a mixture of synthetic and natural materials, to harmonize olfactively.
> Maceration: Time required for a perfume to become olfactively stable. Macération is the outcome of various physiochemical re-actions between the perfume components and ethyl alcohol.

This is from JC Ellena's book “The Alchemy of Scent.” People use those definitions interchangeably/incorrect all the time. And every time if there is a discussion, some jerk would break in saying that in winemaking or chemistry they mean different things. Supposedly, maceration happens by itself on the side of the fragrance company, during the shipping and waiting to be purchased on a fragrance counter. Only if a fragrance was produced literally yesterday and was delivered to you today it needs to be macerated.
However, there is also a notion/belief/city legend that after you start using new bottle and let air in it - there is also the oxidation happens. A fragrance would become stronger, louder or better accentuated. Who knows why that happens though, maybe it is your nose adapts. To achieve that, just wear new bottle several times in a row applying liberally and then let it stay for a month or two.

> only for cheap frags
It has nothing to do with the price imo

>house/cat sitting for a (female) friend
>she has like 8 perfumes sitting on her bathroom counter
>kayali vanilla 28
>can’t smell it from the atomizer so spray in the room
>somehow it still gets on me
I’m sitting here at hour 3 and absolutely hating this shit

Anyone know where to get the older Lolita Lempicka Homme in europe ?

>>17757975
>frags made in the middle east and/or by middle easterns are bad
why?

>>17757702
Why are fragrances important?

>>17758344
Nice smells are good. It's that simple.

>>17757937
Thanks for the input, though I already own Dakar, and when I asked him how similar it was to VC&A he said it was only just a bit similar and much more soapy, and my mother said it smelled nothing like it.
I'm looking for something that smells similar to VC&A, not just anything that's reviewed as "vintage traditional masculine beastmode barbershop powerhouse".
>>17758099
>Gucci Nobile
More expensive than a bottle of VC&A, though I'll be sure to look into the rest, thanks.

>>17757735
Same for me on notino, but with trash performance and sillage - why?
>>17757273
>The disgusting Arab bottle is reason alone not to buy Sillage. I couldn’t have that on display.
Are you genuinely retarded? Is good scent + performance and cheap price not enough? What's wrong with the the bottle anyway, it's a literal rectangle bottle with a reflective cover and earth cracks cut outs. Is it a fist, skull or dildo design? Anyway, Armaf is as close as it gets for the realistic price range. Miss out if you'd like.
>>17757754
Might be proven otherwise but seems like a contrarian. Imagine saying "feels cheap" to something 1/10th of the price that gets you to a completely reasonable place with regards to the original. I tried the creeds and armafs, yeah that aventus had some very nice and complex blends in the opening but $500 nicer and was gone 1 hour after? Yeah nah bud.

>>17757986
>this person is a member of a group we don't like, believe me, I'm sure of it, so his opinions are wrong and mine are right!

>>17758399
you’re new as fuck if you haven’t run into the gay mulatto dakar/bois imperial/kenzo homme cuck porn spammer yet.

>>17758395
Your father might like antaeus. Maybe get him a small decant to see?

What’s the consensus on Creed formulations nowadays?

I love Silver Mountain Water and thinking of purchasing a full size bottle when I visit duty free at the airport in a couple of weeks. I’ve had various decants of it in the past but never bought a retail bottle.

I’ve tried Armaf Sillage and although it’s similar, it doesn’t quite come off as light/clean/crisp. It also seems to be missing the green tea note which is probably my favourite part of SMW.

>>17758433
roflmao

>>17758433
The consensus is: creed post bourdon makes very crude perfumery, and the stupid reformulation games they play are for complete losers.

My fucking theme when i spraying Cool Water: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqWyL_QDcVA
and get fucking laid with a 10/10 blonde and kick Satan Freezer in the ass.

>>17758443
creed pre-bourdon was also just crude leftovers and brief rejects billed as aspirational heritage luxury

>>17758433
SMW is great. I also enjoy Millesime Imperial, thought it's a rancid scent, because i smelled the Armaf clone first. But now smelling the OG, fantastic fresh scent.
Only heard that recent Aventus batches are great again.

>>17758448
Well, quite, but I didn't want to hurt this guys feelings too badly.

>>17758398
>trash performance and sillage
everytime I tried it at a store it lasted like any EDP should, around 8 hours or so. Are you saying that based on the reviews? I think I might get it... the bottle is also a piece of art, heavy and feels great in hand.

>>17758411
>every post I disagree with is from the same person who belongs to a group WE don't like, but my opinions are correct since WE belong to the same group, believe me, and if you're a member of yet another group WE don't like!

>>17758461
is it as similar to Terre d'Hermes as people say?

>>17758433
>Creed formulations nowadays
Are abhorrent. I wouldn't buy anything from them produced after 2017. Such bottles easy to spot, they are 75/120ml.

Are there any more affordable alternatives to Amouage Search? I really like the smoky citronella feel of it, but for some reason I can't find any local sellers decanting it on my local platforms

Hard to get decants here and forgot to add it in my last order, but what's the general gist on Gallagher's Amongst Waves? From what I gather, it's one of the only two fragrances worth it from them.
If I quite like Sel Marin, what can I expect?

>>17758495
Any citrusy incense fragrance. Search don't smelled groundbreaking to me.

>>17758463
who are you quoting?

>>17758470
mmmh similar scent type, but I don't like TDH edt and edp much, while I love Icon. The main notes you can easily pick up are, in this order, neroli, pepper, vetiver. One of the best neroli frag, a refined, masculine neroli, not a hippy unisex neroli like 4711. Neroli and a woody-peppery backbone.
it's similar to Bvlgari Wood Neroli, another great neroli-centric frag.

I tested Dior homme original at the duty free. At first it reminded me being at the mall in the 90s. It smells like the lipstick and make up aisle at macys. I now see why many anons here have reported that it smells gay. It is inoffensive but does smell like something a tom boy lesbian or drag male would wear. I also tested Guerlain vetiver and it also smells nostalgic. Like what my grandfather would wear. He was the type of guy that would wear a dress shirt even mowing the lawn. Always wore a neck tie. Big respectable and strong man. I liked it a lot.

blafgano

>>17758613
the biggest giveaway that dior homme is gay as fuck is that it was creatively directed by hedi slimane, the raging homofaggot obsessed with some fruity anorexic twink “rocker” aesthetic. that’s the kind of person dior homme was designed with in mind.

>>17758625
i assume you prefer bears

>>17758627
nah, i’m more bullish on crypto these days

>>17758490
I’ve heard more recently they’re better though, especially Aventus.

Probably had to up the formulas given the huge backlash

a really unisex frag is a rare thing

>>17758632
hardly. jicky has been around for over a hundred years.

>>17758632
For a constrained mind, perhaps...

>>17758415
Fair, I might do just that.

>>17758495
Arso by Profumum Roma, though it's more piney than citrusy.
Also Zirh Ikon, it's kinda zingy at the beginning, with citrusy and ginger notes, and it's cheap enough for a blind buy, though while there's a good amount of balsamic incense it's not very smokey.

>>17757702
what accords make something smell sad/gloomy?
I want to smell like modern societal decay incarnate

>>17757727
>cowboy scents
Le Labo Patchouli smells like a campfire

>>17758663
you’re not as clever as you think you are.

>>17758632
Is smelly water, how the fuck is such a thing gendered you fucking retard

>>17758695
this is a dogshit reductive argument, and that’s coming from someone who wears mitsouko regularly
>it’s a piece of cloth, how the fuck is such a thing gendered

>>17758663
Fathom V

>still mogs 99% of fragrances on the market today

sampled this and i dont think i can ever cope with it bros... i cant believe i am considering spending $500 on a bottle of this stuff

>>17758699
I find Mitsouko REALLY hard to wear other than on super rainy days
It smells a lot like a grandma perfume IDK how you can

>>17758791
Le Male yes, Cool Water no

>>17758801
because it smells divine, and my nose is not limited by self-inflicted connotations like “grandma perfume”

>>17758796
hideous bottle, worse company

>Boucheron Singulier
Need it or sneed it?

Where do you sell your fragrances? I don't like the new ebay direct to bank account shit

I've come to the realization that I now have too many frags and most will go bad before I use them up.

I'm in love bros
I think I found my signature

>>17758835
based grandma smelling anon

>>17758854
There's no easy market imo. Ebay is way too expensive, but you can move them. You can try forums, but you need to price them low to move them.

>>17758856
some days i smell like grandma, other days i smell like nursing home, and more often than not i smell like grandpa. and quite frankly it’s for the better; the old folks don’t know how good they had it back then.

Why is ambre tabac so good ? Is there another better amber/tobacco combo?

Bros is it just me or is it just a pain in the ass to date hot girls?
They don't wanna talk long on dating apps but want to get meet you in reallife very soon. Most hot girls are whores and just want sex.
But i cook myself some nice but heavy meals every evening, which makes it almost impossible to fuck her brains out with a full stomach.
So there's my problem, leave out some nice cooked meal or have sex with fast foot afterwards.
How do you do it?

>>17758699
Well don't you think that the associations that people make visually about seeing only women wearing skirts are at least a bit stronger than associating an oakmoss note in a perfume with a whole gender? Specially when traditionally masculine and feminine notes are all pretty much merged today? The gendering today is artificial fueled by designers because people want to feel either more manly or more feminine

SOTD: Di Ser Kazehikaru. Second day of testing Di Sers. Snice green-citric-floral fragrance but overpriced. De Bachmakov does the same thing (but is more floral) for 1/3 price. What are you wearing lads?
>>17758796
Don't.
>>17758854
Parfumo, Facebook groups.
>>17758855
Snice.
>>17758880
It's great. I've been enjoying Slumberhouse Jeke a lot recently.

>>17758895
i do, and that’s precisely why i find your reductiveness stupid - it only applies to something as abstract and intangible as perfumery, where gender lines never really existed in its inception and were only awkwardly shoehorned in ad hoc.

>>17758898
>shoe horned in ad hoc!
Based retard thinks he’s smart.

Mitsookie is a feminine perfume for twinks.

Aromatics elixir is a feminine perfume for MEN

>>17758916
haven’t you gotten bored of spamming yet? when (if) you do, feel free to try discussing perfumery any time.

>>17758918
a meaningless distinction; both are masterpieces in their own right, and bernard chant himself would like slap you three times over for dissing mitsouko. like insulting mozart while praising brahms.

>>17758919
I'm living rentfree in the schizos head. He also coom to my selfmade amateur stuff.

>>17758920
Do you reckon Bernard wore his own perfumes?

>>17758918 #
a meaningless distinction; both are masterpieces in their own right, and bernard chant himself would likely slap you three times over for dissing mitsouko. like insulting mozart while praising brahms.

>>17758923
i don’t know how perfumers feel about wearing their own compositions; most artists would probably feel awkward about surrounding themselves in their own work, and too much indulgence in one’s own laurels leads to complacence. but all the same, he must have trimmed cabochard down to aramis for a reason.

>>17758919
its an archon

>>17758932
can’t say i’m familiar.

>>17758937
It's a concept in gnosticism

>>17758699
Which version of mitsouko do you wear? I have a vintage bottle of parfum that I wear and an unopened vintage bottle of the edc. I’m not sure if I’ll open or resell it. The parfum is nice and very earthy.

>>17758921
a sand nigger with gyno, the multivariate normal distribution is not easy on everyone

>>17758958
Yeah, but i still can get laid, no excuse bro

>>17758958
>multivariate normal distribution
Who talks like this? Why are you trying so hard to sound intelligent?

>>17758961
expected world view

>>17758963
i think anyone with a bachelor's degree would understand the concept. what's the hard thing for you to grasp in order to make it sound "intelligent", maybe we can discuss it?

>>17758948
i didn’t know the gnostics had a term for mentally ill shitposting retards.
>>17758955
the current EDP, which is magnificent. i find the current EDT a bit too floral and light in comparison.
>>17758958
why are you giving the mulatto attention?

>>17758958 (You)
why are you giving the mulatto attention?

apologize. been gone from the general over the summer, come back and the first thread is filled with his overly cringe posts and i couldn't resist. need to go back to filtering his posts

>>17758970
half of these threads is just retarded shitposting now, and most of it is not even funny or interesting enough to warrant giving any sort of attention.

>>17758963
Telling on yourself here if we are being honest.

>>17758974
This. We used to have shitposters like Kourosposter with his mystical stories, Hookeranon posting blogposts about him fucking high-tier escorts, Polskibrit guy who was shitposting about his Tinder conquests, the sample sperg with his collection of 500*0.5ml fragrances, Meme/Jeremyanon creating OCs every thread or even the Masstige poster who was starting fights with everyone even mentioning brands like Xerjoff or PdM but at least was contributing something to the overall fragrance discourse in this thread. Now it's just uninspired, tiring lowest tier baiting and samefagging from 2-3 retards.

Is Creed Viking just shit? Whenever I put like 5 sprays of it on no one can ever smell it on me.

>>17758990
Holy shit dude how many times do you have be told.

One word: crude.

>>17758997
This is the first time I ever posted in fragrance thread. What do you mean crude?

>>17759001
Creed makes crude perfumes.

>>17759004
oh. Glad it was a gift then and I didn't waste my money on it.

>>17758663
dior sauvage

>>17758663
>modern societal decay
Dior Sauvage Parfum or Elixir
Creed Aventus

>>17758526
the poster I'm replying to, obviously

>>17759088
evidently not

>>17758965
you weren't trying your hardest to sound intelligent by talking about something that's difficult to understand, rather by bringing up concepts that are wholly unnecessary to make your point, making it clear that your point wasn't just to make a joke, rather also to sound as intelligent/cultured as possible
>this is easy
the purpose of this is to downplay the persuasive nature of your previous post, to make it seem like it was actually an offhand comment that anyone could have made and not an attempt to sound as cultured as possible
you sound like a ridiculous tryhard to be honest family, take a break from 4channel

>>17758298
>It has nothing to do with the price imo
i doubt cheap frag manufacturers make efforts to properly macerate their products before shipping them out. i also have no idea what i'm talking about though

>>17758835
The only super vintage Guerlain I can stand to wear is apres l'ondee

>>17758855
Really? Doesn't smell too much like curry to you? What's it smell like

Down to the last three Creed samples.

Probably going to buy a 100ml bottle of Silver Mountain Water (don’t care about the memes, smells great, decent performance on my skin).

Also going to get a 50ml bottle of Tobacco Vanille if I can find it cheap. Smells perfect for winter and even enjoyed it on colder summer evenings.

Have also ordered the ELDO sample back.

>>17759203
pack*

I want to smell like hot chocolate in the winter
I want to smell like the breeze in the fall
I want to smell like flowers in the spring
I want to smell like the ocean in the summer

>>17759203
ELDO samples really let me down. Half of them are old lady rose scents.

>>17759215
Ergh

They were pretty cheap to be fair. Same price for 20 samples as it was for the 5 samples I got from Creed (of which I only liked one).

>>17759203
Look at this gaudy shit.

These threads are doomed.

>>17759215
It's ok, not everyone is cut out to be a perfume aficionado

did they really cut down the whole aramis brand to just the regular one and tuscany? new west and havana discontinued? seriously?
>>17758931
>he must have trimmed cabochard down to aramis for a reason.
elaborate

>>17759188
sucks to be you i suppose.

>>17759203
It doesn't have decent performance and it smells mediocre and you're a retard for spending 300 dollars for that shit. Fuck you and your molecule dogshit.

>>17759198
I mostly get the tonka bean, tea and ginger.

>>17759203
it makes perfect sense that all these fragrances would belong to an explorer 40 owner

>>17759239
so does it remind you of any fougere. I have some Mal aime and corsica samples on the way rn. Thinking about trying eau de gloire as well.

>>17759234
the original aramis is famously just gres’ cabochard with less stuff in it. for a while it meant that it was a great cabochard substitute since the latter was horribly out of shape for years, but now that cabochard is back in full form i see little reason to buy aramis.

>>17759226
Nothing gaudy about a Rolex Explorer, stop being poor.

>>17759237
I’m going to buy a 500ml flask just for you anon.

>>17759234
Yeah it looks like it. Very disappointing as I was hoping to try Devin etc.

>>17759203
whatever the replies, and however questionable your taste might be, you're based for posting your impressions of frags you've tried
also if the bottle in the back is Kyoto you're twice as based

>>17759245
My uncle who drives a lorry for a living owns a Rolex explorer. To his credit he would never make a gay little diorama with it to show off his perfumes to his online friends.

>>17759245
enjoy smelling it, because no one else is going to

>>17759245
nothing gaudy about a 1016, everything gaudy about a faggy 40mm nu-explorer

>>17759241
It’s a 36mm 124270

>>17759253
It’s Avignon, I’ve had Kyoto before though, great stuff. Also had a bottle of Yoyogi which was good, but Hinoki wins for me.

Molecule 01/Escentric 02 are behind the bottle of M+G Strawberry.

I just finished a 30ml bottle of BR540 Extrait. Might have to buy a bigger bottle since my wife kept wearing it.

>>17759255
Lorry drivers make a good wage. I didn’t set up the diorama to show off to my online friends, this is my bedside table and what it always looks like.

>>17759257
>wearing fragrance for others to smell and not for your own enjoyment

The projection of all the Creed fragrances I sampled last no longer than 2-3 hours, but once they dry down they stay on your skin for 6-8 hours.

I could still smell Aventus on my wrist about 10 hours after the initial application.

>>17759273
6 digit rolexes, gross

>>17759273
they're also boring. by all metrics creed is dogshit. from the scents, to the performance, to the price, to the backstory. fake niche lying shit company.

>>17759265
It’s a 124270, which is probably my favourite modern explorer (I actually sold my 90s 14270).

I’d love a 1016 but they’re just not suitable for everyday wear and tear. I can wear the 124270 and not worry about it.

Also I agree the 39/40 Explorers are an abomination. I actually quite like the two-tone though, tried it on at my AD.

>>17759280
calling creed niche perfumery is like calling berluti niche shoemaking. they’re just a heritage company with no actual heritage in perfumery, just tailoring and leather goods which they shuttered in order to fleece the retarded perfume market.
>>17759281
>they’re just not suitable for everyday wear and tear.
translation: i can afford to buy one, but not to own one.

>>17759280
Recommend me another summer fragrance with a similar crisp, slightly metallic fragrance and a green tea note.

Tried the Sillage clone, didn’t like it.

>>17759288
>slightly metallic
contrary to what “fragbros” may lead you to believe, this is not a good thing in the slightest.

>>17759290
I’m a fan of weird CDG fragrances so the metallic thing is nice to me.

>>17759293
there is such a thing as weird and good, which the mark buxton CdG fragrances fall under while silver mountain water does not. it merely counts as banal and unpleasant.

>>17759288
I don't really like tea notes so I can look into it if you really care. The only thing I can think of is Voyage d'Hermes but that is fairly sharp to me. I dont really know if Silver Mountain Water is all that metallic

>>17759288
I've never smelled SMW, but Voyage d'Hermes EDP is a nice summer fragrance with a green tea note

>>17759293
such as?

>>17759242
>so does it remind you of any fougere
No, not really. A lot of people on fragrantica seem surprised that it's a fougere too. I've got Azemour Les Orangers on the way right now.

>>17759288
armani eau de cedre

>>17759309
>Azemour Les Orangers
Based.

>>17759309
Based that's one of my favorite citruses. So natural smelling. I wish there was a bit more than the hay/oakmoss in the dry down though. Other than that I liked la cri, a very clean iris raspberry rose. Aziyade and Wazamba were okay dried fried incense frags. I didn't like their most popular stuff at all, cuir ottoman and Ambre russe, and musc Tonkin was pure halitosis on me
>>17759288
you could also try the jerkoff which Fragrantica says is similar, but im not sure how I feel about that house either. honestly creed might be more respectable. Hey, at least you dont have any PdM trash.

Mike Israetel seems to rate ellipticals so I use them.

People complaining about these threads all the time but apart from a few schizos we get some genuinely good stuff discussed here regularly. Some Art and Olfaction Award winners, Parfums de Empire, people being aware of masstige brands tricks and shitting on them. All that would be unthinkable years ago, when we rather had designer fags vs. entry-lvl niche fags wars. Keep it up everyone.

>>17759328
I don’t know shit compared to some of you guys so I usually just lurk and keep my mouth shut. I only have about three fragrances so far with my new collection

>>17759319
>I wish there was a bit more than the hay/oakmoss in the dry down though
Interesting drydowns are fucking tough to create, man. Realistically, you have to resort to woods/oakmoss/ambers/sweet notes if you want to keep it natural smelling. Hay/oakmoss is the only combo I can imagine that would fit the concept of Azemour.
> I didn't like their most popular stuff at all, cuir ottoman and Ambre russe
I was also never particularly impressed with Ambre Russe. I think it got its fame because of normies thinking a vodka-champagne accord in the opening is something truly revolutionary. Other than that it's just a solid amber with the most interesting thing about it being the smoked tea accord. With Cuir Ottoman I learned to appreciate it only recently after I had gifted a bottle of it to a friend of mine for his PhD graduation. You should think about it as a posh, understated iris-leather by design. I think it's too easy in this hobby to catch oneself in a sort of ADHD mindset where you expect to be surprised or smell something completely new every time. Novel and unusual accords are important, but mastering to perfection things that have been done before is as important as that. That's what Cuir Ottoman is for me. My fav from the brand is probably Azemour Les Orangers though.

>>17759335
I have only ever smelled boss bottled and didn't like it very much, but I am constantly in these threads starting and winning arguments. Fake it till you make it.

>>17759328
>>17759335
Shame that you have to filter that discussion from a couple of hundreds of bullshit post every thread

Brehs, it's 11 PM where i live and i chat literally with a ukrainian slut. Convincing her to have sex with me and go to a club afterwards. Wish me luck.
Sheesh, being into whores is more fun than i expected. Usually into tradwives.

>>17759353
Yes unfortunately there are a few bad seeds that continue to insist on discussing creed, even after the final word on that so called "house" has been decisively stated.

Brehs, it's 11 PM where i live and i chat literally with a ukrainian slut. Convincing her to have sex with me and go to a club afterwards. Wish me luck.
Sheesh, being into whores is more fun than i expected. Usually into tradwives.
SOTD Bois Imperial

But since i'm whoring around lately i should some try sweeter scents like Layton.

>>17759374
wear a penile protector sheath

>>17759244
i see
can't decide if i should get new west, carbochard, tabu or youth dew first
>>17759249
same, haven't tried devin yet. prices for new west are still sane at least, havana goes for 100€+ now. bought it slightly used for 25€ a few months ago on a whim because the guy i wanted something from also sold his havana. but now i have to use it more sparingly...

>>17759374
You won't convince her shit. From your post alone, I can smell the cloud of desperation that must be following you everywhere you go. She will sense that you're a low status looser the second she sees you.

>>17759381
Don't fall for the bait

>>17759381
With Bois Imperial,
your Status gets gladiatorial

>>17759380
Get new west, the others aren't going anywhere afaik.

>>17759381
it's the muttposter

Why do classic fougeres smell "like soap"?
Did soap start imitating parts of their smell since they became popular?

I love in a warm place, only go to college and usually wear dark clothes and black boots, what's a fragrance (or a type of fragrance) for me, brochachos?
One that's good for day and night if possible, since I'm a musician

>>17759404
Shaving creams and men's soaps copied some of the most popular fougeres like drakkar noir, yes.

Kouros smells like a toilet because so many urinal blocks copied the kouros smell.

>>17759410
The best thing to do is to go to a department store and smell perfumes, noting the ones you liked and then try to find common notes.

I'd try to find a classic fougere like drakkar noir, something modern and clean like Bleu De Chanel, a Vetiver like Guerlains Vetiver or encre noire, and then something like terre d'hermes and see which you like. It's impossible for anyone to divine your tastes in perfume from the information you've given.

>>17759410
kerosene blackmail

The recent Nez "Niche" release was made free of charge. Some good reads inside. Here's a link
https://issuu.com/nezlarevue/docs/niche_by_nez_01_english

>>17759404
the same reason aldehydes smell like soap now; soaps took after the success of the likes of no. 5 and white linen. repeat the same in men’s grooming products for every iteration of the fougere, from brut to cool water.

>>17759438
excellent, thank you anon

>>17759438
>Describing his artistic partnership with perfumer Quentin Bisch (Givaudan), whom he met in 2015, Marc-Antoine Barrois mentions a "shared taste for refinement, built on a very similar olfactory reference system." While the designer explores shapes with his couture, the perfumer devises scents as textures.
They're praising /ourguy/ Bisch there.

>>17759447
how much of a fucking sucker do you have to be to eat this blatant marketing material up wholesale

Anyone got something fancy similar to blue sage and tonka?

>>17759457
Loewe cobalt

>>17759438
>What if we gave you carte blanche?
>I would love to come up with a new Jicky, by replacing the civet with onion, which has fascinating animalic facets that pave the way to a new oriental.
what the fuck, civet-bros did we... did we get too cocky?

In the hope of finding a truly cheap, good quality, beatmode incense fragrance I'm going to buy €30 worth of no name attars from ebay.
Wish me luck, please and thank you.

>>17759474
Castoreum-bros remain undefeated

>>17759479
Let us know which ones hit the spot. We love cheap perfume in these threads.

>>17759474
having been unfortunate enough to have smelled rotting onions before, this sounds intensely unappealing, which is really saying something considering it’s being proposed as an alternative to literal poop smell.

>>17759480
onion will come after you castoreum-bros as well... it's only a matter of time. onion-bros reign in perfumery is about to commence...

>>17759438
Good article on salty/sea notes inside.

>>17759489
i don’t think anyone is dying to find out about what would happen if you added more onion into antaeus

>>17759438
Apologize to IFRA. Now.

Anything remotely similar to this? It’s been discontinued for a while and one was one of my favourite CDG fragrances.

It’s by Antoine Lie who’s done quite a few ELDO fragrances. Maybe I should check them out more.

>>17759500
clearly, the real problem is authoritarian bureaucracy at the state level leading to perfumers preemptively exercising the same at an industry level. in other words, we should burn the EU to the ground.

>>17759500
Wtf I love IFRA now.

>>17759474
>Jicky
>literally called an onions fragrance
How are you feeling about it now, Guerlain-shill?

>>17759511
what’s it like being illiterate?

does fragrance general like parfums de marly?

>>17759515
subpar garbage billed as aspirational luxury

>>17759394
yeah you're right. might buy tabu at the same time used. redpill me on tabu once again please
>>17759479
>>17759484
riiffs incense gold, shit's nuclear

>>17759500
Fuck this bootlicking whore and fuck these unelected bodies

>>17759515
>he has to ask
NGMI

Good article. How do you feel about the fact that all of your masstige "niche" (other than indie/artisan houses, where they control the entire creative process) and designer houses (other than those with a head perfumer like Hermes or Guerlain) are just marketing companies dressing up as something else? You're buying into their nonsense about their artistic values, creative process and heritage, while it's just a 9-5 marketing job, and they literally do the following with every release
>research the market needs
>send a creative brief like "I need a modern leather for dynamic young people in urban environment" to intermediating, external fragrance companies
>those companies send your brief to perfumers working their 9-5 jobs for big-corps IFF, Givaudan or Firmenich
>some accoutnants have the final say there by looking at their Excel spreadsheets
>intermediete, external company decides for you what is the best
>"yup, ok, sounds good"
>another external chemicals mixing company creates a fragrance in a factory for you based on the formula provided
>another external bottling company pours those in bottles
>another external packaging company prints boxes for you and packages it for you
>your only job as a "niche" masstige comapny is to find perfumeries to sell "your" fragrances in and work on adverising them
Now imagine being an idiot defending PdM or Xerjoff unironically online. You're being played like tools.

>>17759539
masstigeschizo was right all along

>>17759346
I might have to try cuir ottoman again, but I dont generally like frags that are too dark. Ambre Russe I know I will never like. I hate anything boozy and while Ambre russe doesn't have a generic boozy accord, it has this almost sour wine note like a sherry that sickens me. I'm probably going to end up trying everything from him. He has a new eau de gloire cologne that's limited edition which may be another good citrus accord. Iksander is supposed to just be like eau sauvage, which im not really a fan of the basil/kitchen spice notes of those old school citrus masculines. Yuzu fou didn't seem attractive to me for some reason too, but I might still check it out. There's also acqua di scandola, which a lot of people say smells kind of like a generic ADG acquatic, which I dont think I'd really mind if it smelled like a high quality adg
>>17759328
yeah when its not just two retards bitching for 100 posts

>>17759539
Is this an actual magazine? I like smelling shit, but dont think ill ever be this into it unless I started trying to make perfumes

>>17759539
Ngl that's some grim stuff.

>>17759539
ngl that is how most fragrances are made. Some houses are still pretty based like Frederic Malle.

You're better off picking perfumers that you like, or scents you like. Figuring out who made it, then checking out their other works.

>>17759539
I've always kind of assumed that this was how it worked anyway. I'd like to have a list of all the high quality caring indie perfumers
>>17759543
I feel like some of the Indies on here are still pumping out only shit perfumes. Just because its not some souless jew corporation shit doesn't mean its good

>>17759539
Not really surprised that it works this way because economy of scale, capitalism or something. But shit, that's just soulless. What are some SOVL fragrance brands?

ES bros... I boughted in anticipation of gap up tomorrow.

>>17759554
>I'd like to have a list of all the high quality caring indie perfumers
>>17759560
Tauer

>>17759203
beautiful shelf anon, no matter the seethers that nitpick

>>17759560
Nicolai, Papillon, Tauer are three certain ones

>>17759554
>I'd like to have a list of all the high quality caring indie perfumers
Some people were sensing the same thing intuitively. You can go full-retard mode and join the Areej La Dore/Slumberhouse cult.

>>17759575
I would add Olympic Orchids, Bogue, Rogue to this list.

>>17759560
>What are some SOVL fragrance brands?
Beaufort
L O N D O N
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D
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Any good summer woods that are earthy? Looking for something that evokes petrichor but isn't driven by it — baie 19 is cool but really want something that leans into leaves and foresty smells

>>17759580
CdG Sequoia, Hinoki

LArtisan Timbuktu

Caron Yatagan

are some of my favs

Can one of you burgers test pic related?
>Providence Perfume Co. Heart of Darkness
>A fearsome fougère with oak moss, cedar moss, lavender, vetiver, espresso, nutmeg, tonka, cedar wood, and rockrose. Complex and deep, with woody mossy notes, hints of coffee, and incense. Travel deep into the heart of the black forest.

>>17759580
>woods that are earthy
You want oakmoss.

>>17759588
based list is based. I've had almost half of those scents over the years.

>>17759583
Ty yatagan sounds cool and I've been meaning to try timbuktu + hinoki

>>17759588
This is cool thanks. I always thought chypres were a bit sharp and not what I was looking for, like new york intense + eau savage + moussee illuminee. But the other options sound dope I'll get some samples

Luna rossa Ocean EDP

just blind bought this, what am i in for ?

>>17759597
From that infographic try to sample
>Chamber Fueguia 1833
it's earthy, leafy and petrichory in the way you want.
>Chamber was born from the curiosity and desire of Julian Bedel to explore and capture the most primitive scent, a multi-faceted essence that would create a natural aura of mystery. The olfactory nates are indeed very special: marble, powder, barba de viejo – the lichen of Patagonia, a plant able to indicate the level of air purity, and finally, the scent of the bottom of the lake. Here, the firmness of the marble joins the heat of the earth, evoking the backdrop of mossy lakes. Chamber was inspired by the concrete, marble, and the architecture of Louis Khan, precisely the Kimbel Collection building.

>>17759602
> Chamber’s first perfume was created inspired by the thought of architecture, the analogy of a perfume as a metaphysical space. Using Louis Kahn masterpiece, the Kimbell museum, reflecting their key ingredients, the perfume reproduces the smell of concrete, travertine marble, glass, grass and mostly solar light. The elixir reflects a unisex sophisticated smell, created using unique molecules that reproduce the genesis of this materials and images

>>17759203
Complete retard with retard taste. Typical of /fa. Probably an Indian

>>17759560
You’re not going to like this, but the only fragrances with soul are vintage masculines from Guerlain and Caron. Guerlain vetiver
Guerlain habit rouge
Guerlain heritage
Caron pour un homme
Caron le3
Caron yatagan
Expand out from there.

>>17759606
>>17759602
Beautiful sounds exactly up my alley, thanks much

>>17759617
He is also not going to like it that this shilling for LE EPIC VINTAGE MASCULINES comes from an Indian twiggy teenager from pic rel

>>17759617
what does habit rouge smell like?

you guys sperg at anything popular and then buy $300 niche oud to smell like a literal farm animal?I think I get it now

>>17759631
sweet dusty lemon. its honestly the least dated 60s frag ive tried by far

>>17759635
kind of sounds like adp colonia

>>17759633
Excuse me. I'm actually about to drop $1600 this week, to smell like a literal farm animal.

>>17759636
not at all. its like a vanilla sweetness. ADP smells like cleaner to me. The lemon is smoother in habit rouge

>>17759600
I've never smelt the EDP. I have the original one it's like an aquatic Le Male imo.

>>17759631
Outdated, sickeningly sweet vanilla fragrance. Something your mother could wear.

>>17759631
Cheap, synthetic lemon. Think kitchen sink cleaning products.

>>17759636
Adp Colonia is leagues above Habit Rouge quality-wise.

>>17759627
Do I make you seeth so much that you save a pixelated image of me?
>twiggy
22.3 BMI, not fat, not skinnny. Just normal weight.
>Indian
100% European heritage. I am outside a lot and am not pasty.
>>17759631
Citrus, rose, wood. It changes a lot throughout the day. It’s a very interesting fragrance. Edc>edp>edt. But it’s all good. Worth sampling a few times and letting it develop.

>>17759636
More like a failed, cheap Colonia clone.

>>17759631
i think these dudes are trolling. try it yourself. the rose was a lot more noticeable than the lemon when i sniffed it but it's been a while

>>17759653
>>twiggy
>22.3 BMI, not fat, not skinnny. Just normal weight.
>>Indian
>100% European heritage. I am outside a lot and am not pasty.
Post hands in front of your pops' ""collection"" Pajeet

>>17759647
Guerlain and Caron frags are one of the best quality/price ratio you’ll find in modern frags. What about Guerlain makes you seeth so hard? Be honest. Have you ever tried any?

>>17759659
>Guerlain and Caron frags are one of the best quality/price ratio you’ll find in modern frags
Maybe if you're a noselet or make 10 rupees a day.
>Have you ever tried any?
All of them and all were really bad and synthetic smelling. There's a reason why they're priced on par with Arab clones. These are fragrances for the same audiences.

>>17759657
All you do is seeth day and night over my epic collection and make believe that I’m a twiggy Indian kid. How about you post your collection for once and open yourself up to criticism instead of reeing?

>>17759664
Just by your tendencies here I’m going to say that I make more money than you do. But maybe you were born into money? Either way, post collection. Save your reputation.

>>17759665
Pajeet, we’ve all seen a photo of you. You cant falsify reality.
>How about you post your collection for once
I bet you wish.

>>17759577
I tried Bogue mem and it smelled so fucking sour on my skin. I dont know if it had an awful reaction to my chemistry or if that's how its supposed to smell

>>17759667
Im afraid scamming people off Google Play Cards is not really “making money” no matter what you call it in Mumbai

>>17759671
You can’t see my nationality in that pixelated reflection. And there are a lot of posters here that would like to see your collection. Don’t be shy.
>>17759664
>Guerlain smells synthetic
The modern frags are up with creed, Tom Ford, and other frags that cost 5x as much. But if you want the best quality/price you should consider purchasing vintage bottles. Never again will such quality and genius fragrances be made. It’s like comparing Mozart to generic pop band in 2023

>>17759653
Not that anon but people are laughing at you because you really don’t look like someone who should be advocating for masculine vintages let alone wearing them. Like cmon kid >>17759627

>>17759678
I personally would prefer you fucking off from these threads like you announced 10 times. You’re an insufferable dipshit

>>17759678
Post hands Pajeet

>>17759686
>>17759690
I have no idea what you queers are arguing about but you seem like more a faggot. if you dont like this guy then shut the fuck up about him instead of bitching in every thread

>>17759686
>young fit men shouldn’t wear masculine fragrances
Are you advocating for gender neutral fragrances?
>>17759690
Yea I think you’re getting me mixed up with another anon. Never once said I’m leaving these threads.

>>17759692
Nice try Pajeet. You conveniently are trying to make people forget 100s of your troll posts and baits every thread, threadsplitting, cuck porn posting and overall shitting these threads just because your manic episode is over. Just fuck off.

>>17759703
how do you even know its that guy shitting up the threads?

>>17759708
He doesn’t understand anonymous message boards and thinks that every anon he dislikes is the same anon that this one anon is shorting up the threads. However, I get the feeling that a lot (all?) of these “attacks” on me are from him

>>17759711
>He doesn’t understand anonymous message boards and thinks that every anon he dislikes is the same anon. Furthermore, that this one anon is shitting up the threads.

>>17759696
He’s advocating for you stopping that LARP and leaving vintages for men older than 16

Has anyone tryied /diy/ing their own fragrances? I don't feel comfortable paying $200 for jew water

>>17759708
Because he was banned multiple times and you could see all of posts that vanished together with him. Someone compiled a collage with screenshots of shitposts by that dipshit.

>>17759714
I’m in my mid 30s, married, and have multiple kids. Regardless, I think young men can pull off these old school frags. Especially something like Caron pour un homme.

>>17759718
>someone got banned once and I know it was this particular anon
Wow you’re really on to something.
>>17759716
I’ve tried and very limited success. Maybe buy some vintage Guerlain fragrances. The way they are built and develop with time is pure genius. It was a family owned business and the genius of the fragrances will never be reproduced again in this market. That way you’re not suppprting Jews. Jews own Guerlain now so that’s one of the reasons I purchase vintage. Furthermore, the vintage bottles have better quality oils. For example, vintage gueurlain heritage used Mysore sandalwood. As a sandalwood lover, it’s hard to beat. Otherwise, if you could buy some quality essential oils, like sandalwood and maybe try mixing them with something like vetiver. This is essentially what givenchy vetyver is.

They cancelled this Bianchi that they said the sprayer was broken finally and relisted it for like 90 more dollars wtf is with these eBay perfume sellers LMFAO
>>17759718
That makes sense

>>17759731
https://fragrancebuy.ca/products/francescabianchisexatseaneroli-man

>>17759731
Nice blog faggot. Nobody cares about your shit fragrances. At least post a review of the smelly water.

Which fragrance is objectively the most likely to get me bitches (preferably white)? That's all I really care about. I'm a brown male if that matters, right now I'm using YSL La Nuit De L'Homme but that bottle is finally running out after nearly 2 years.

>>17759761
hello sir

WHO ARE /frag/ APPROVED YOUTUBERS?
THE BELOW LIST IS SHIT AS A STARTER - Reply with your changes/additions

Yes
1) Jeremy (slowly dying inside)
2) The Fragrance Apprentice
3) School of Scent ?? (some value, mostly shit)
4) Aaron Terence Hughes
5) Chaos Fragrances ?? (some value, mostly shit)
6) Persolaise

No (marketers with daily top 10 lists and basic note readouts)
1) Perfume Guy
2) Gent Scents
3) Curly Scents
4) Curly Fragrance
5) Demi Rawling
6) Real Men Real Style
7) BowTie
8) Monika Cioch
9) TLTG
10) Frag-Mental

>>17759771
Ramsey and Wafts from the Loft

>>17759771
>no Mickers

>>17759771
rvmvadati

>>17759771
Varanis Ridari

>>17759743
:(

>>17759771
school of scent and chaos? really nigga?

>>17759771
All of them are pretty much mentally ill crazies. Something about the fragrance community attracts weird and fucked up people (as on display here). Jeremy is only based because he's crossed the line into the pure chaotic zone.

>>17759771
I unironically only listen to Joy Amin as ASMR when im trying to sleep. The rest are pretty shitty. Persolaise is too long winded but may be okay.
>>17759778
They're too faggy. I hate that genre of British person

>>17758279
Kek it does smell funny. It can smell decent under certain circumstances

>>17759716
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhaizDgS0Y4

>>17759653
you must be smoking crack, the EDP of habit rouge is by far the worst version and the EDT is easily the best.

>>17759771
persolaise is literally the only slightly tolerable and informative person on your entire list, and even he’s like a weird british fruitcake

>>17759539
Does it really matter as long as it smells nice?

Results > process

You can hate Creed from a morale point of view, but that doesn’t mean Aventus isn’t one of the greatest fragrances in the past decade.

>>17759990
creed are anglo scum and aventus is IFF goyslop

>>17759522
Tabu smells like rootbeer in the same way youth dew smells like coke.

>>17759992
Nobody outside of /fa/ thinks that though. Unless your daily interactions are people with Asperger’s from the internet then they’ll think Creed is good.

Even the Fragrance Apprentice’s favourite perfume is Millésime Impérial.

>>17759998
>appeal to popularity
roflmao

Is paco rabbane 1 million still based or never was? Will I get bullied? Any recommendations for something similar to 1 million or issey miyake L'Eau d'Issey? These are two of my favorites.

>>17759999
You don’t wear perfume to smell nice and impress others?

I forgot most people on /fa/ are incels and just wear niche fragrance in their parents basement and never interact with the outside world.

Aventus wins hands down in a bunch of blind tests.

>>17760008
i wear perfume to smell nice to myself. i don’t give a fuck about impressing others, nor do i give a fuck about faux-scientific blind tests which you apparently can’t seem to cite either.

>>17760010
sounds gay to me

>>17760029
nothing gayer than buying a fragrance some guy (possibly gay) recommended to you online that smells good to other men

>>17759631
it smells like grandpa's lemon candy with a bit of rose
it's supposed to be the male Shalimar, but Shalimar is so much better

>>17759631
i find it impressive how almost every reply to this post is either outright wrong or missing major notes that completely change how the fragrance is perceived. has no one here smelled habit rouge more than once or twice on a strip?

>>17759771
>good
Ramsay
Varanis Ridari
Wafts from the Loft

>okay
that fucking asian guy who keeps changing his name
the perfume guy

>shit
everyone else

>>17759539
>how do you feel knowing you're buying into marketing
Same as always because everything you buy, your phone, your clothes, your glasses, your cleaning products, your car/bike/bicycle, the entertainment you consume, have all been produced with the purpose of making money selling products and/or services to a group of people.
What changes between niche and designer is the marketing, because the target is necessarily different, and is in the case of niche frags designed to give the fragrance enthusiast, aka the target, a sense of exclusivity and quality by different means, but it's marketing just the same, and the fact so many people are fixated on this distinction means that marketing has largely succeeded in making you associate niche with good, high quality, exclusive, and designer with bad, low quality, normalfag-tier, despite a number of designer frags being great quality and a number of niche frags being unremarkable crowd pleaser.

You fell for marketing just the same, only different marketing.

>>17760037
you do realize that you’re basically just repeating what he said right back to him right?

what's the maximum amount of perfume bottles I can buy in a shop in an airport?
i assume 1 or 2 via transit and any amount while on arrival?

>>17760041
as many as you can carry

>>17760037
This

And in fact most niche/artisan/handmade stuff is actually worse in terms of quality as highly automated mass consumer goods are more consistent.

>>17760039
We argued two opposite points, anon over there was saying that masstige/fake-niche houses are not real niche, and behind the niche marketing there's the same corporate process that's behind designer frags, so if you buy masstige frags you're falling for marketing, while I'm arguing that, regardless of what product and/or process is behind it, mostly everything is marketed in much the same way, albeit with slight changes depending on the target group/demographic, """real niche""" fragrances included, so you're falling for marketing whatever you buy in this day and age.

>>17760044
what if they confiscate at security because its too much

>>17760068
i read it as the niche/designer distinction being worthless because of the existence of both faux-niche masstige houses and extremely high quality classical “designer” houses.
>>17760073
well i have 20 odd bottles of perfume in one of my check in luggages with me here in paris and i had no issue getting it over, so i think you’ll be fine. just don’t exceed 100ml per bottle for carry on luggage.

>>17760073
the duty free is after security in airports

>>17760068
if you buy small batch indie fragrances, they will be made by the perfumer personally
just saying "it's all le same" is reductive. not every perfume house out there just outsources the entirety of the production process to IFF or whatever. even some designers are significantly more in-house than brands like Xerjoff or PdM, with official house perfumers, sourcing at least some of their ingredients from their own plantations etc.

>>17760083
>they'll be made by the perfumer personally
I agree, and I didn't say the opposite anywhere.
My point is not about the product or the process, it's about marketing being the same all around bar a few minute differences due to the target group/demographic, whether you're buying niche frags or canned soup or a german car, and that to say you're only falling for marketing if you buy masstige/fake-niche frags is naive, because you're also falling for marketing whenever you're buying niche frags since you're buying into the idea of exclusivity, hand-madeness, small batches and smaller margins... which are all qualities that align more with your actual and/or ideal self.
Falling for marketing doesn't mean being coerced to do something because of a fake notion, such as that Creed has been producing frags for royalty since 1760, it means you're not buying something because of the product itself, rather because of its image and what it represents, e.g. let's buy Gucci because the cool kids wear Gucci and if I wear the same stuff I'll be a cool kid too, or let's not buy frags made in the middle east, because poor pajeets and dorky high schoolers buy them, and if I too buy them I'll be just like them.

Get in fags
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>>17760100
oh yeah, I agree. I think the scent itself should be all that matters. I think some people in this thread think they're better than the masstige "sheep", when they themselves also fall for brand image. like the Guerlain guy or one or two "true niche fans" ITT (not all of them, but there are some bad apples)

>>17760107
The people who hate on masstige are just poors

I see a new thread in the horizon

Pls recs for cheap unisex autumn (maybe winter) perfume, thanks

>>17759989
kek same way I feel. I was surprised he had a wife